Ranking the Bosses from Mario and Luigi Dream Team
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- I talked about the Bosses and the Giant Battles from Mario and Luigi Dream Team and ranked them from Worst to Best. If you have a video idea, leave it in the comments below. If I make your idea into a video, you get to hear my thoughts on what you thought of! Don’t forget to subscribe and enjoy the video!
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We could revisit ranking every partner in TTYD or every Special Move in TTYD. As for an original video, Every partner in TOK?
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I had the funniest moment fighting beef cloud on my latest playthrough, I was a fan of iron ball boots and after laying into him for a solid minute he does his “Yk you can quit this fight if it’s too challenging” thing. Then an iron ball falls from the sky killing him instantly.
What the heck 🤣
This isn't a mercy kill, it's a mercy suicide
"Yk you can quit this fight if it's too challenging"
Narrator: *and for that he would suffer greatly*
Nice
I wish you caught that on video
Fun Fact:Earthwake is the only giant boss where Dreambert is in his full body since he’s not in his pillow form during it.
That's a nice fun fact
I actually picked up on this during my first playthrough.
Yeah, because Luigi was sleeping on Bedsmith not Dreambert.
Fun fact, Easter Island is approximately around 27.1127° S, 109.3497° W.🗿
@@moai167 🗿
Trivia.
If the player fails to fully break Mammoshka's armor during his last screen chase by not performing 5 or more jumps correctly, he will regenerate and the battle will continue. However, a single hit will cause him to break again.
I didn’t know this at all lol
@@ShroobInvader Same!
Oh lol that happend to me but I threw the cartridge and lit it on fire. Ok maybe not the fire.
not really, he just had 5% of his total health back
The chase attacks are a fresh take for the non-giant Bosses and I'm glad they carried them over to Paper Jam. Wish people made videos about them.
Agreed they are really strong attacks
One thing I like about the Sorrow Fist fight is that it’s full of personality. Like in the pre-battle cutscene, Sorrow Fist is glum during the fight and you can see him barely putting effort into his attacks. Meanwhile, Mario’s idle animations are as perky and alert as always, taking his foe seriously like usual despite the fact that Sorrow Fist doesn’t pose much of a threat.
(I know the same idle animations are used in every battle but I’m just making a fun observation)
Seeing Luigi encourage Sorrow Fist was pretty cool too.
Sorrow Fist: If I put my mind to it, I can totally whale on you guys?
Luigi: Oh yeah!
Also loved how his defeat pose resembled the scream painting, too.
The elite trio is my favorite dream world battle. You have to plan the fight, counter attacks heavily punish them, their gimmick of taking them all down at the same time is cool, they are fairly weak to the luiginary hammer and ball, hard mode makes a HUGE difference on them, and they have the laggiest death in the game! I'm really sad we won't see these guys ever again.
I'm glad you put Dreamy Bowser at number one. I genuinelly think that it's the best bowser battle of all time. The attacks are unique, fun to dodge and visually impressive. The only thing I don't like is the screen chase attack due to the frame drop lol (I played the game in the very first 3DS). Btw another good aspect of the fight is that the relation between Mario and Luigi seems to get deeper, I mean, during the shy guys attack Mario helps Luigi by hitting them with his hammer and when Bowser traps and Throws Mario with his arm, Luigi runs toward him to grab him. It's something that was never shown in a boss battle before (at least from the M&L series). These little things made the battle so much memorable and really showed how the brothers care each other.
I also agree with that, even tho in my opinion that battle is easy because Dreamy Bowser doesnt have a lot of health and in a normal playthrough (hardmode or not) you'll get there with enough level to make him 700 damage with a critical attack (any jump Bros Attack) if he had more life (probably twice) i think it would be a good closure to the Bowser fights in the M&L Saga
Giant Dreamy Bowser (the last giant fight in the game, and the first of the 3 final bosses) to me it’s short, T O U G H. You do NOT get a lot of room for error, and screwing up an attack can basically H A L F your health!
my ranking
#2: every other boss
#1: fly guy fight at blimport
Y’all love the fly guy fight too much 🤣
I was trying to beat Dream Team without dodging, and it took 20 times to beat Bowser and Antasma
That’s interesting but it makes sense, he hits you multiple times for each attack
Something else to love about dreamy bowsers attacks is how some of them actively show the bros supporting eachother, like the ship attack that requires you to use mario to save luigi, similarly with his hand grab too. Giant bowser does this too with Luigi's sheer SKILL in that fight, and it's a really nice touch to show how much the bros have grown.
This is the most unexpected shroob invader ranking that I have seen so far. Especially the giant bosses
I only recently discovered Torkscrew has a screenchaser but you only get it by jumping onto his horn during the burrow attack.... Still is pretty weird.
You should rank all the special/bros moves from all the M&L games in one video. Like rank them all together not just by game.
I do love the theme of giant bowser though. Since you WHERE Giant Bowser in the last game and now you have to battle him as the epic final giant boss. But that final phase is SO BAD since it uses gyro….
I've recently replayed the game in Hard Mode,and this is my list:
*Giant Battles ranking:*
5)Robo Drill-digger: well,what did you expect? It's a tutorial Boss,and a pretty straightforward one
4)Mount Pajamaya: easy,but still amazing visually and cool attacks
3)Giant Bowser: awww f*ck the Gyro controls,this dude took me like 12 tries thanks to them just going berserk during the stupid Beyblade section (BTW,thank you Shy Guys for stealing 1/3 of my health)
2)Zeekeeper: really solid fight,I loved the dimension mechanic (thanks to the controls ACTUALLY working) and overall,it's a better fight than Bowser
1)Earthwake: totally agreed with what you said on the previous video:I like how similar to the Tower of Yikk this fight is,attacks are very unique and visually it looks amazing
*Now,the normal Bosses:*
14)Smoldergeist: again,1st Boss syndrome makes the fight easy and unmemorable
13)Fly Guys: glorified enemies. That's it
12)Grobot: a really solid fight for the stage of the game you're in,albeit easy
11)Dreamy Mario: the concept of fighting yourself is always appreciated,though I wish he was a later fight to make him more memorable
10)Torkscrew: the same things I said for Grobot apply here
9)Big Massif: this dude's damage output is insane! And that's really it since he just recycles his underlings' attacks
8)Bowser & Antasma: the 2 Villains of the game team up for a really good fight,full of BIS references and solid difficulty
7)Mammoshka: this fight takes Big Massif's "insane damage output" concept and executes it better,and I like how you can easily counter him by also doing insane damage with the Dropchopper/Bye Bye Cannon
6)Pi'llodium: great fight,I love how you have to take it down before whaling on it with the Jet-Board Bash and has really good attacks
5)Wiggler: the classic Wiggler fight formula is executed well,and I love how Popple affects the fight by making your jumps heavier or pissing Wiggler off (can we get some Fs in the chat for him? We never saw him again)
4)Kamek: as I always say; Kamek's fights are amazing as long as Flip-flops aren't involved,and this has to be my personal favorite
3)Elite Trio: these dudes are amazing Characters and their fight is so much fun,I love it
Love the team mechanic,the attacks and it's so satisfying to destroy them with the Luiginary Flame
2)Dreamy Bowser: a really good Final Boss,up there with Shiny Robobowser and Dark Bowser
Adventure's End is a banger,I love how Bowser is basically a God,I love the Chase segment,the atracks and the fact that he still relies on his Minions
This is my favorite portrayal of Bowser ever and it goes to show how much he has changed throughout the whole Mario series (as opposed to Paper Mario where he was threatening in 64 and then became a wet floor sign who flails his arms and talks to posters about that time he unleashed Venom because he wanted a rainbow shell)
1)Antasma: amazing Theme,fight,attacks,everything! He has to be one of my favorite Mario Bosses and Villains ever and it is also fairly difficult
(Also,Fun Fact: my game randomly decided to softlock when I beat him so I had to restart the fight. BRUH I should be mad but I was actually laughing my 4$$ off)
I love antasma so much…needs to come back as a surprise i swear-
1,000th like, I’m a HUGE dream team fan and I remember beating dream bowser when I was 8 after SO MANY attempts, good video
Fun fact: Besides Bowser,
Wiggler is another boss that is in every game
Dreamy Bowser is the single most fun Bowser fight in the Mario franchise. Bowser looks like an actual god with his prismatic glow and shifting colors, and it sure feels like you're fighting a god. His size manipulation, cloning, shockwaves, ability to create matter from nothing, and especially his rainbow flames is just... So fucking cool.
I also want to point out one other thing: A notable portion of Dreamy Bowser's attacks involve creating minions. Even when Bowser has the power of a god, capable of doing anything with just a thought, he still dreams of taking down Mario and Luigi with his subjects together. Reason #64 as to why Bowser is a fantastic character.
SAME! Even though Mt Pajmaja is my least favorite giant boss and Drilldigger is my second least favorite earthwake was so ANNOYING since I was the same way I’d be shouting “I swiped up!!”
Hoping elite trio is pretty high, I’ve their boss fight cause this time you’re the single enemy and they have backup
Number 6 do be high
YES i am. very excited for this one. Also antasma is still my number 1 favourite battle of all time. I will always give that fight praise cause he deserves it
Antasma is also my favorite boss from Dream Team.
When Dreamy Bowser goes into the background to heal, the intended strat is to use a taunt ball to get him to destroy his own minions. I don't understand how anyone would ever figure that out. Surprised you listed it as high as you did
as someone who not just suffered through hard mode, but boss medley and it's exhaustive grind, i salute you for this tier list. (farming boots my beloved)
👍 thanks for bringing back my favourite 3ds game
Ye no problem :D
Great video! Welcome back! So excited for more content! Tbh my opinion has not changed. I added a whole top 5 instead of top 3 so you can see my top 5. Some spots were really surprising and I like that cause there in a good way was a lot I didn’t see coming. See you in the next video 😊
Top 5:
5: elite trio
4: earthwake
3: pi’lodium
2: wiggler and popple
1: big massif
Good too 5 :D
@@ShroobInvader thanks
I had three major roadblocks through my first playthrough of this game.
1. Beef Cloud
I was way underleveled before I fought him for the first time because I was avoiding all the enemies. (I was like, 9 when I played this game so I was really bad) Because if that and the fact that I was really bad at the Luiginary Stack, it took me about 2 years to beat this boss.
2. Pi’illodium
This boss was another major challenge for me, not because I was underleveled, but because I still thought I could get by with the basic bros attacks. I had to not only learn, but master the newer attacks and learn when they are most effective.
3. Antasma
I still have never beat Antasma without easy mode on, as I have only beaten this game once (when I was 11 or 12) now that I’m 17, I’m replaying the game in Hard Mode, and I will have to truly master the game’s counterattack system.
Each major roadblock for me has made me perfect one of the major aspects of the core gameplay loop. That is why I love this game so much.
Mario and luigi should have a HD collection or at least a super star saga port
It should
I'm sitting here surprised my 12 yr old or something self was able to beat all these bosses without too much frustration
also I loved the Zeekeeper fight on a replaythough, it was really entertaining and I loved the concept
Such a great video. No wonder your list changed. Especially your thoughts on giant bowser now. Also during the elite trio section, you had a missed opportunity to add that chicken nugget add in again lol. I was kinda hoping antasma would be number 1 but I am glad he was at least number 2. While I enjoy dreamy bowser, I just prefer antasma also cause antasma is literally my favorite fight of all time. Also I suggest you re fight antasma x again just for fun. and quick question, do you still prefer antasma x over dreamy bowser
I’m still not sure to be honest, while it is pretty difficult I would imagine, Dreamy Bowser does have better more unique attacks
@@ShroobInvader fair. Also what song do you like more though. Adventures end or antasma theme. I do suggest you right antasma x just for fun though. Also has your opinion changed on the areas of dream team
This is my series favorite
Same
@@ShroobInvader wait really????
Same, I really love Dream Team (Bros, if you're european)!
I'm more of a Bowser's Inside Story person.
Do they really expect you to kill ALL of the helmet enemies in the Mammoshka fight? I feel like I remember ignoring most of them, and only going out of my way to kill the ones carrying spiked helmets.
Game rewards you for overleveling as shown by the Fire Flower Bros. attack.
I used to hate the Zeekeeper boss when I was a teen when I played this game for the first and second time. Now it’s my favorite giant boss plus it’s so pretty even if the gyro is still really annoying….
I am currently trying the arena and my gyro is broke GUESS WHO KILLS ME every time
Protest for shroob to do bowser jr in Battle ring and rank it
Ugh I know I should but I haven’t yet
I need to try hard mode it looks so much more hard and a fun increase of the difficulty. Also great vid shroob
Thank you and yes you 100 percent need to
"I've recently replayed Dream Team, and my opinion of it has changed a lot"
New M&L ranking video coming eventually?
👀 foreshadowing
Now this …… is going it be a fun one
Yes it was lol
Boy oh boy I bet Dreamy Bowser is gonna be number 1!
…wep
Even though I haven’t played this I’m still excited
I don’t personally consider Smoldergeist and dreamy Mario as boss fights since you don’t have Bros attacks yet. Heck you don’t even have a hammer yet! So I consider Grobot the first boss as well.
My 5 favorite bosses are:
5. Giant bowser (the sequenced attacks dropped this fight to number 5, even though I wanted it to have the number 2 spot)
4. Elite trio (In hard mode or the battle ring this fight may be hell)
3. Antasma (this is a good final boss for the dream world)
2. Dreamy bowser (So close to being number 1, but there’s one other boss that’s much better in my opinion)
1. Bowser jr (This is in the battle ring, and the fight is very fun + using his koopa clown car against him is so satisfying)
after Zeekeeper, i randomly realized something. this game missed potential to reference Subcom. you have a game with dream world, come on. Japan had Mario 2 not lost levels version, Mario USA, they would get it to some level.
That would have been cool 👀
@@ShroobInvader yeah. even as a post game. i would like to see SMB2 bosses in RPG style with more attacks. maybe Wart wouldn't be 1 attack boss who some people hate?
29:41 this one os the boss I can never seem to beat. I always die midway or 3/4 of the eay through
This game was my childhood. despite that I didn’t actually beat it until a year ago. Something younger me (and current me to an extent) hated it was fighting normal enemies. I didn’t care about fighting the normal enemies when I was young. All I cared about was continuing the story and fighting bosses. Because of this I was always super under leveled but I got pretty far into the game because I was a kid and had way too much free time so I would spend hours on bosses. My progress was halted when I had to fight the X form of Grobwbot. That boss battle has a turn limit and since you need to beat that boss in order to continue the game and I was super under leveled it was impossible. So I gave up and put down the game for years. It wasn’t until last year I finally beat the game and found out I still hate fighting normal enemies but I force myself to😅
Yeah, I hated fighting normal enemies when I was a little kid too, but I’ve actually grown to enjoy it more. They can still provide a fun little challenge for you, or if they are too easy, then they can still be something fun to whale on.
Idk if you're going to read this, but 3d green shell and 3d red shell are slightly different. Green shell attacks the closest enemies randomly, while red shell will only hit the targeted enemy unless killed.
My favorite boss fight is Antasma, he has great attacks, I like his character how he's like the Dark Star 2.0, altough the only attack i have trouble still to this day avoiding, is when he becomes to many bats, I find it annoying how you'd get blinded by other bats thinking they're the ones to dodge, but instead you get hit just when you land the ground by one of them.
My boss rankings:
(S Tier)
#1 Antasma
#2 Dreamy Bowser
#3 Elite Trio
(A Tier)
#4 Giant Bowser
#5 Pi'llodium
#6 Big Massif
(B Tier)
#7 Earthwake
#8 Torkscrew
#9 Zeekeeper
#10 Mammoshka
#11 Kamek
#12 Robo Drilldigger
(C Tier)
#13 Wiggler and Popple
#14 Grobot
#15 Bowser and Antasma
#16 Heavy Zest
#17 Sorrow Fist
#18 Mount Pajama
#19 Thunder Sass
#20 Dreamy Mario
(D Tier)
#21 Beef Cloud
#22 Smoldergeist
I had a brain spasm when Giant Bowser wasn't at the bottom
1:12 I fell for it. U got me😄🤣😂😆
Yes I added that specifically for this lol
Same lol 😂
34:11 for giants. While all the normal ones are understandable, giant fights are hype man. (If anything like 4:05 happens just use smaller swipes. The game won't process these big swipes because they go off the touch screen)
Hey @ShroobInvader how did u get this and the other 3ds games?
Honestly my problem with kamek Is how annoying they are if you dont use bros attacks (which honestly I preffer except for battle Rings and most of paper jam's bosses) 1st of all you cant really Attack which once you want cause the defense buff and healing make It basically deal nothing. 2nd They will always do the same Attack every turn (the green one will use the ring attack every 4 turns and the White one whever he doesn't Need to heal so like twice during the entire fight). Every single other kamek will do the same attack every turn unless you Attack them which has I said before only leads in to you losing turns so for EVERY SINGLE TURN you have to deal with the broom and the screen Chase which has basically zero randomness so like 15 turns of you doing the same exact long screen Chase. I feel like giving more attacks at least for the blue kamek would have helped a lot in making me like It more.
Also I am a month late...
The reason why the screen chaser is so hard for me is because my ds’s frames die when he shoots the flames
Ok thats something that didn’t happen to me, that I don’t know how to fix though so I can’t really help you.
I absolutely despise the third Kamek fight. The White Kamek will heal the real Kamek if you defeat him, and the Green Kamek keeps buffing everyone's Defense stat. Also, Big Massif hits like a ton of bricks when the first four Hooraws are much easier. If I get hit once, I'm dead. Granted, this may be my fault for neglecting Mario's defense stat, but this wouldn't be an issue if Mario didn't inherit Dreamy Luigi's HP and BP.
Mammoshska was definitely my biggest roadblock in this game, and that's the reason it's the most memorable for me (not counting the final boss)
Same with Commander Shroob in PiT, but I haven't played that game since I was a kid, so it's probably not as hard as I remember.
The Main boss theme slaps
For the giant bowser fight it also took me awhile to beat it [I had a stylus during this]
The reason I dislike the gyro controls in the Zeekeeper fight so much is because when I first did the fight, I was riding in a moving car driving down a windy mountain road, so I basically was blocked out from playing the game for hours until we got out of the mountains, and by that time I was home and not allowed to play video games as often because we were no longer on vacation. It's an intensely personal reason, but I'm sure I'm not the only person something like this has happened to.
My opinion on Dreamy Bowser is a bit lower just because when I fought him he would not stop healing and it made the battle drag on forever.
Ayyy im playing through dream team right now! (Im at the big massif part in wakeport)
Oh nice :D
The best part Imo
@@carlyskolnik296 when i first played the game this was the hardest part for me
the sleepy one
@@zaden2009 I hated him tbh worst of them. Same as well
Gotta say all of the bosses become quite difficult when you are playing hard mode and you are underleveled, meaning the bosses all one shot you
My Ranking:
24. Zeekeeper (Are you really surprised that this is last place?!? Not only is it brutal to get a turn at all, but say it with me… tilt controls that are unresponsive and super sensitive. A huge letdown to the best area in any Mario RPG.)
23. Giant Bowser (I despise hard mode in this game. Not only is it too difficult, but it’s a virtually unchanged New Game Plus in the game that’s the longest Mario RPG for all the wrong reasons, but it also ruins one of the best bosses in the series. This fight is cinematic and climactic but in hard mode, get ready to see everything over and over till the fun is zapped.)
22. Antasma 1 (Tutorial Boss. Neeeeext…)
21. Fly Guy R Thieves (Apparently this is a boss battle? Really it doesn’t feel like one. It feels more like an event battle.)
20. Grobot (There’s really not much to this fight. Why is there a polite processor inside of this robot?)
19. Torkscrew (Again not much here. At least the buildup is pretty great.)
18. Mount Pajamaja (A pretty forgettable boss with a beautiful sky.)
17. Heavy Zest (Here come the Hooraws. They blend in with each other and this fight is the worst one because of the turn limit.)
16. Sorrow Fist (Having to get Excellents every time isn’t too bad.)
15. Beef Cloud (An interesting albeit annoying idea for a boss.)
14. Thunder Sass (Aside from you-know-who, this is the best Hooraw fight in the game since it’s Shrowser done right.)
13. Robo Drilldigger (This fight is kind of a petty squabble which gives this fight some personality. It’s a giant battle though…)
12. Smoldergeist (I wasn’t expecting this fight so high, but the fire is actually brilliant and it’s a good badge tutorial.)
11. Earthwake (Better Tower of Yikk. Also the best giant battle because it’s not too bad.)
10. Wiggler and Popple (The definition of mid when it comes to Wiggler fights and Mario and Luigi Bosses. Everything above is a good boss.)
9. Dreamy Mario (This is an underrated fight. Clever ideas and the fact that Antasma is just kinda toying with you. Missed opportunity to play Antasma’s battle theme though…)
8. Mammoshka (This fight is awesome. Love some of these attacks and the ending is pretty amusing too.)
7. Bowser and Antasma (Does a really good job of setting the stakes and introducing Dream World bosses. Another missed opportunity to play Antasma’s theme though…)
6. Pi’illodium (Honestly this is a much better end boss then whatever the Zeekeeper fight was… the wings shake things up and the Self-Destruct adds some tension.)
5. Dreamy Bowser (A not too shabby final boss with the best final boss theme in any Mario Game playing in the background, as you dodge some crazy attacks. Something feels missing in this fight though. Doesn’t have the same punch that other final bosses have in the series.)
4. Big Massif (Easily one of the best bosses in the series combining everything that was good about the Hooraw fights and there being no crazy gimmicks.)
3. Kamek (Round 1: Definitely the start of a trifecta of Fights with a blue-robed wizard.
Round 2: I love the use of the Dry Bones
Round 3: The culmination of Kamek fights with the multiple colored Kamek clones.)
2. Elite Trio (This is how you shape a tradition. The fights where you have to take out everyone are always some of my favorites thanks to what those fights could get away with. And the Elite Trio is no exception.)
1. Antasma 2 (Yeah, this is everything I want out of a Mario Boss. Beautiful atmosphere setting music. Genuine difficulty. Story purposes. Dreambert actually doing something in that fight is just the icing on the cake. This may not be my favorite Mario boss but to me, it’s the quintessential Mario Boss.)
In the final: Am I a joke to you
@@ryanamburgy2791 nah. Just prefer Adventure’s End
@@Driggsdamonstah I guess that’s fair
I'm excited
Will you do a separate ranking for normal mode? I know it’s unlikely, but idk it might change your opinions on some of them.
I think it might for Earthwake but that’s really it. I feel like these bosses in normal mode are just extremely easy with way too little health and little damage output
Did you forget in pi'illodium there’s aTIMER WERE YOU have to beat him in that timer
Ah yes, my favorite Mario Game of All Time (at least of the games I've beaten.) This has some of my favorite bosses, well, period, but it also has some real STINKERS. I might mention my ranking in a reply, but my main things with most of the earlier bosses is that they were fought too early, Smoldergeist SUCKS, and the endgame bosses are all amazing (I'll need to replay the Giant Battles though.)
Exactly right lol
Cool video and all, but there’s something I don’t get
If you played on hard mode why is the gameplay in the video from normal mode….? Did I miss something
I could tell it is because drilldigger isn’t throwing two tornados lol
The Zeekeeper and Giant Bowser are separately yet equally annoying when it comes the gyro-controls part. They are each annoying for their own reason, but one is not more or less annoying than the other
And there's good reason that Dreamy Bowser and Antasama are a close 1st and 2nd. They share a lot of similarities. For example, both will send minions while they heal.
i was stuck on hardmode giant bowser back when i was about 9 because my gyro controls were broken
The main reason the gyro controls for Zeekeeper and Bowser sucked for me was because, hear this. It DID NOT WORK on my 3DS. Now somehow the dreamy attack gyro controls DID work, so Idk why it was different for the giant battles. I had to change to a different 3DS (which I was lucky enough to have) to beat these fights, and yeah, after I switched it was barely a problem, the gyro controls were fine. So yeah, the main problem with gyro controls for me is just how they become defunctional after a while... Apparently, and essentially makes these fights impossible to beat.
I don't hate Zeekeeper for the Gyro controls honestly they've 99% of the time just worked for me no the thing I hate about Zeekeeper involves his exploding energy orb attack not the big 1 mind you but the version that summons multiple smaller energy orbs because no matter how many times I've played that boss I can not figure out how to do it properly meaning most of the time there goes most of my health and while i can excuse normal Zeekeeper slighty because he won't use it right away meaning at least in my case I don't see it usually but Zeekeeper X will use it right away so that's a rip for me especially if your doing the Giant Boss Rush because you know who is after him so yeah that was my rant on why I don't like his fight
Fair enough lol. I still think the attack isn’t as bad but I will say that I never want to fight Zeekeeper X or any of the Giant Battle X forms in either games lol
I have a personnal hatred for the Giant Bowser Fight, specifically on Hard Mode.
JUST, and I mean JUST because my gyroscope gets 100% stupid every time I get to the Beyblade section, I actually never defeated it, even after over 7 years of tries. And the cutscene before the fight is *SO LONG.* It just adds a mountain of salt on the paper cut, I'm tired of the cutscene.
I played this game on 5 different consoles, my 3DS, my 3 2DS' and my NN2DSXL, all of them have a whack gyroscope during this part specifically. And I mean, I did a perfect battle againt him multiple times until that part.
I did have trouble with almost all the Giant battles, mostly for Zeekeeper and Bowser because of the gyroscope, but the consoles do not give me a chance for the Beyblade section against Bowser.
The only thing that would made him redeemable for me is fast forward for the pre-fight cutscene OR a skip to the cutscene completely. I am not joking.
The fight is GREAT in my opinion, but I HATE it.
Hey that’s how I felt about it! Not for the exact reasons you said but some part of the fight is extremely difficult and it made it hell to get through
@@ShroobInvader
Glad someone is on a very similar wavelength as me.
And usually I don't mind gyro-controls...
@@ShroobInvader
I FOUND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK!!!
I changed my dominant hand in the options, I got the idea from seeing this video where you are in left-handed mode, it's thanks to this video I finally made it!
Thank you so much (even though it was not intended)!
*against him
@@MaximeLafreniere433Giant Bowser from Dream Team is one of the worst Mario bosses ever. Most of his attacks are insultingly predictable and easy to dodge, except for the Shy Guy attack, which, no matter what you do, you CANNOT avoid this attack. All you can do is tap the screen repeatedly to take as little damage as possible, but no matter how fast you do it, the game only lets you get them off fast enough when it feels like it. You can't even use the Heal command to recover from the damage you may have taken from them, because Bowser's Shy Guy airships will destroy the platforms behind you every turn, so if you stop to heal, they'll destroy your platform and drop you into boiling lava. But the absolute WORST part of this fight is the Beyblade section. Imagine you're playing the Bumper Balls minigame from Mario Party. Now imagine it being terrible. That's what this phase is. The gyroscope controls are way to confusing and imprecise, and since you're not using any buttons to control, it's really hard to know how far you should tilt your 3DS in order to get it to work. And that's the best case scenario, because this fight houses one of the WORST boss glitches I've heard of. If you're unlucky enough to get one of the early copies of this game, there's a good chance Luigi will be constantly pulled towards the lava repeatedly until he runs out of health. This is one of the most INFURIATING glitches ever put into a Mario game, especially if you're fighting Giant Bowser on Boss Rush, because if you lose to him, you not only have to fight your way through the first phase of this lengthy fight, but you also have to go through ALL FOUR of the overly long Giant Bosses again before getting another chance to fight him. Even the Zeekeeper is less infuriating than this, because he's not the last boss in the Boss Rush, so you don't have to go through as much in order to face him again. I feel like my brain cells have been killed off by this boss fight, and believe it or not, there's another phase, and while it's not bad on its own, I still just want this fight to end already. I never, ever, ever want to fight this boss again, because he is hands down one of the worst video game bosses of all time.
My favorite bosses are Pi'illodium, Bowser Jr., Mammoshka, Robot sprinkler thing, Giant Bowser, Earthquake, Mount Pajamaja, Torkscrew, Big Massif, and Elite Trio.
I've never played through the whole hard mode so I don't guarantee this is permanent and this isn't relative to your ranking. Also, these bosses have good designs and attacks. I'll have to uh...at least get to Mount Pajamaja first. Hopefully I can beat all of them.
Yeah you definitely wanna fight them first before forming an opinion on them lol
hard mode is pretty much optional so it shouldn’t count
@@supermaximglitchy1 Good point 👍
Time for him to rant about giant bowser a SIXTH time
Think again 😏
@@ShroobInvader haven’t gotten to watch just yet, was I right?
@@ryanamburgy2791 Wrong you will be surprised by the new rock bottom boss fight.
@@ahmedhasan4966 I mean mount pajamaja is probably the objective worst boss lol
I recently beat the game, and Giant Bowser was really annoying to me. I died 6 or 7 times and only once was it not at the end. Another was after the beyblade section, and every other time during. And this was in NORMAL MODE.
I am permanently scared by the Zeekeper
Fair enough lol
The Fly Guy “boss” isn’t even a boss! It’s just regular enemies that the boss music plays during for SOME reason…
I agree, which is why I didn’t include it lol
@@ShroobInvader exactly! It is nice though to hear Dream team’s awesome boss theme!
I disagree here. It's got the music, and these are special fly guy rs. They are theives. Theives are bosses when they directly impact the game's story, and the game presents it as a boss. And if you include that one, plus the 2 other kamek fights, and Bowser Jr secret boss, then you have 26 bosses. Then include Antasma's introductory fight, and 27. Da more da merrier. Superstar Saga has 28 I think. The rest have less than 20.
Ngl I forgot half these bosses existed and I just finished my third playthrough of this game
Never Hold Back (Never Let Up!)
My problem with mamoska was when i was 10 was when his shell broke. That part was so bad that i quit the game for years 2015 or 2016 is when I said !@#$ it and gave up in 2017 I move to an Apart ment clean my dads and brothers room
Just to look for dream team, guess what I couldn't find it, fast forward to 2021 and my dad gets me a new copy and i have to start the game over I beat mamoksa first try and dont reallt hate the boss anyway but im still putting it at the bottom of list
If i ever make one
The worst boss fight is that one who just sleeps and doesn't do anything
Yeah it is odd that Beef Cloud never attacks….
Where would you rank the secret bowser jr battle
I just replayed dream team on hard mode and giant bowser only took 2 turns, idk how but I countered all his massive attack(when he is giant)
How about ranking the Mario rpgs based on presentation AKA (music and graphics)?
Possible video 🤔
@@ShroobInvader yay
I can see why you like Dreamy Bowser a lot, but I just can’t like it. First of all I hate it that Dream team had a great villain throughout the game but when they revealed bowser was the true villain I just sighed. Antasma would have made a great final boss like what if bowser took a bit of the dream stone and Mario and Luigi fought him in the real world and Antasma took the rest and he would change between dream world and real world in battle it would have been great, BUT NOOO. Anyway, In the battle I hate the Dreamy Bowser can heal. I also hate the enemy spam he does. In BIS dark bowser sent enemies not for bowser to defeat, but to make an obstacle for bowser to get past. It doesn’t interfere with the battle, however Dreamy Bowser’s enemies are very annoying to dodge.. kinda… and when trying to murder them all I get annoyed because the paratroopa’s. Also I suck at zee egg so I don’t use it. Dreamy Bowser’s only attack which ironically, is my favorite in the game. The screen chaser. It’s really fun to dodge besides for the game to drop in quality but that’s just how you know it’s good. I guess the shy guy airship junk is fine. Until they attack you from the backgrounds. It just ruins the momentum that the battle leading up to it makes. I HATE THE HAMMER ATTACK. Bowser has the power of the dream stone so what does he do… he flips a coin. Then you get no time to acknowledge which side it lands on. The music… it’s my 2nd favorite final boss theme. Everything else with the fight is either ok or good or great. Anyway now you know why Dreamy Bowser is my least favorite fight lol.
Fair enough 🤣
@@ShroobInvader lol
30:48 What about that god damn turn limit
Huh, I'm noticing a severe lack of Bowser Jr in this list.
Unless he's planned for like a Mario and Luigi Super Bosses Ranking (which doesn't have that much competition, it only has 3 superbosses, 6 if you count the Elite Trio and Bowser superbosses in Bowser Jr's Journey and the Inside Story Shroobs, ok, maybe a lot more than 6 if you count the rest of the X Bosses) I can't find a reason as to why he's excluded from the list.
I hate the zeekeeper because I lost my stylus and I can’t swipe well so it gets annoying swiping but failing (also there is motion controls but who cares). (Also yes I can’t swipe good enough to beat it).
Yeah that’s fair
Also I'm surprised that Giant Bowser no longer the worst to be fair the more you practice a boss the easier the boss becomes I mean Zeekeeper to me is okay hes no where near as bad what I remember back then as much I like the giant fights in dream team not love because they have flaws it is the weakest of the game but I also find bowser inside story giant bosses are not that great either only I find 2 of them to be decent in that one
Exactly, I think that normal bosses overall are just naturally better than the Giant and Papercraft battles from these games
@@ShroobInvader yeah the issue with giant fights in Inside story and dream team they have issues in there own ways that's why some people hate the fawful express or Zeekeeper while the giant fights are meh doesn't really hurt my opinion about the games it's just the weak spot that yeah could've been better at least they only have 5 giant fights and the rest of the game is normal fights
My Opinions on Every Giant Battle
1. Robo Drilldigger: _B a s i c_
2. Mt. Pajamaja: By a Show of Hands, Who Died to that one Ping Pong Attack.
3: Earthwake: I actually Love this Giant Fight, the Second Best Favorite Behind Super Peachs Castle of Fury ImO
4. Zeekeeper: Fawful Express, Anyone?
(He's da Biggest Bird)
5. Giant Bowser: "I mean it's alright, Overrated as F♤ck" - EDP445
5½. Giga Bowser: You think Alphadream would've learned from Shrower.
Pls don't harass me :(
I’ve beat this game once 9 years ago. Is the hard mode worth replaying the game? I remember hating the tutorials tho…
It’s definitely harder, but you gotta also enjoy the areas in the game to to call it worth it lol
Where would the secret boss at the end of the boss rush place
34:11 how to dight giant bowser
Where would Bowser Jr. be ranked if you included secret bosses?
So I haven’t ever fought him but from what I’ve seen (not including the stupid battle medley) he would be VERY high on the list, I like his attacks a lot from what I saw
@@ShroobInvader oh ok then also do you know the secret involving his Jr. Clown Car?
Where would you place Bowser Jr. on the list?
Mario and Luigi Dream Team was not a familiar game to me I didn’t get a single bros attack and the Most Recent boss I fought was Dreamy Mario
Yeah, you're too early in the game, the bros. attacks come MUCH later. The game is 40 hours long for first time playthroughs. Longest Mario game excluding puzzle games.
When you described Antasma’s chase sequence you didn’t even show it in the footage. Why’d you do that?
You remind me of schaffrillas productions. Idk why but you talk very similar xD
So, should I mention that Bowser Jr is a boss, but only doing the last challenge in the arena?
I hope giant battles are in this too
They do be in there
@@ShroobInvader very interesting grammar.
but we all know that giant bowser will be at dead bottom, and atasma will be at top.
@@robboxstream9953 I do not think Antasma will be at the top, I think Antasma X will be at the top. (Yes it was a joke)
@@donnawilson5578 bruuuhhh
I absolutely despise the Zeekeepeer fight. It's a great boss battle, but I hate the gyro controls. I hated them in my latest playthrough as much as I did back when I first played the game.