I understand the cost performance/benefit argument. I think the deal is here to negotiate the BMW top case as part of your deal. Having central locking and alarm and lighting might not seem worth paying £1000/€1100 for, but when you SW Motech gets removed with a Stanley knife, it might make you regret not buying it. There’s another channel which found (and bought) the top case for £600. He fitted it himself along with the high level brake light. This is the issue with the GS/A when used for touring. It’s all manual locking and I think it depends on what sort of riding your doing as to whether you decide on soft, hard or OEM luggage….and the depth of your pockets and how brave you’re feeling when you reveal the purchase to your wife.
I forgot to add: I used the BMW large soft bag on my K1200S. It’s now about £175/€190 and I can recommend that since it’s capacity is 55litres and it’s sitting with two BMW System 6 helmets in comfortably with space for gloves and other gear. The current one is blue, and you showed a picture of the small one. Check that out if you want top quality at a lower price than the SW-Motech.
@@johnambro7181 I realise they have us by the curries, but very soon, in the next few months, once redundancies hit, they’ll be more keen to play our game!
I have the OEM with brake ligh and... well, it´s not the biggest, nor the cheapest, but as usual it´s whats fits the bike the best. It has soft material inside, a velours mat, hydraulic arms, and even a bulb light...
Bmw are robbers when it comes to luggage my s1000xr came without as to buy tbe 3 boxes is £1100 so i chose shad sh36 panniers and sh39 topbox plus racks £550 but i bought them bit by bit. I may be trading up to r1250gsa soon and my shad boxes are going on the gsa nice vid scott
Hahaha no way…I literally JUST put an order in for this bag for an upcoming motocamping trip I have in a few weeks. Anyways, just had to say what great timing this vid is for me, now it’s time to actually finish watching 😅
All depends on usage, leaving my RT parked up in Florence while I explored the city was a chore with rear soft case. Ended up finding a locker at the train station to store bag. Have a lockable hard case now.
I was not prepared to pay the exorbitant price for BMW hard luggage for my RS. I went for the SHAD SH35 boxes (just panniers, no top case). They are quality items and the brushed aluminium trim suits the bike well. Also the mounting kit is well-designed and quite unobtrusive. All for less than half the price of the BMW stuff. No brainer. Thanks Scott.
Have the full set of OEM hard luggage w/liners for my R1250RS. No brainer -- an expensive bike with expensive luggage and I accept it. Lockable hard cases beat soft luggage in nearly every situation.
Ordered the rack pack but long delay so went with the the rear bag, smaller but excellent rear seat bag and expandable too. The straps are easy to use and very secure.
I have the same one x 2 on my brand new Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer! One is for my camera gear and one is for charging all my stuff. SW-Motech makes the best gear you can buy PERIOD! I have all their travel gear and it is perfectly designed. Thanks for this video Sir!! Ride SAFE and BE safe Scot
Cheers Scott thank you for giving me the the confidence to purchase the bag as you say an overkill of storage overall but it will be good for me to put clothes in and put my camera gear in the hard luggage. Enjoying all your videos and thank you for your quick response . John
Nice review, Scott. I have the ‘22 RT like yours. I never thought I would care for a tank bag, but finally purchased the SW Motech Daypack, and love it. So handy for sunglasses, gloves, water bottle, ear plugs, snacks, etc. SW Motech quality is evident after many months of use. Keep those RT and RT product reviews coming! Thank you.
How timely, I just added some SW Motech Blaze sidebags to my new RS this week. They are sleek AND look good AND affordable. I've trusted SW Motech with crashbars on past bikes too. Two thumbs up for the review (as you say !)
That is a nice looking bag however the BMW soft Bag large or small are exceptional and very well priced. They include an intergrated dry bag design slo no messing b around with rain covers.
Well Scott, you talked me into it. SW-Motech should know that, lol. Since I already have the SW-Motech Daypack tank bag, this Rackpack will be a good match. I plan to use this along with my Touratech dry bag to do some camping in a couple weeks. I found this Rackpack ONLY available from SW_Motech. I shopped at my local (Chicago area) Cycle Gear store where I get a discount, and online but everyone found the Rackpack “Discontinued”. Please keep your reviews of our RT’s and accessories coming. Those (And other BMW bikes) are the only reviews I am interested in 😁. Ride safe.
I am using a givi 47 with the aluminum mount on my 2023 1250 RT. Used it on my k1600 for past 4 years and still works awesome. No leaks, lots of room, looks great and no issues. Chose this instead of OEM as it is only $700 with the mount. OEM is really overpriced and you still have to paint it.
I bought te previous model topcase for my bmw 1200 rt lc. Cost me arround 500 euro. Good quality, backrest at the perfect spot, easy te mount and i can use te bmw key.
For civilized places only. Loved the solution... but I'd unfortunately get pretty worried someone would steal the bag (or contents) on a bathroom stop.
I wish I could do what you do or at least help. Im in Erfurt! Love your videos! I didn't know what SW Motech was when I moved to Germany and the same goes for Büse. I thought Büse was some kind of chain store brand like when you see food products at Edeka, Rewe or Tegut etc. But Büse and the rest are pretty good quality. SW Motech since learning about them I have always liked! Prost!
Hi Scott i have a givi top box on my RT and am looking at extra storage for my camera gear to put on my rear seat when i go on photography trips. In your opinion will this fit on the seat with the top box on.
Sure no problem. I talk about moving this bag to the seat once I put the BMW top case on the bike in this trip video: th-cam.com/video/9eOkQxQDPIc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JyDNB5x3xDemYzkD Right around the 12 min mark. Take care, Scott
It's a good case no doubt. However... let's face it, a bike of this caliber, does not have a look as it suppose to have with a cheep alternative like this. It just doesn't belong there.
I don't like this one. It is not fully waterproof. Bmw has an excellent softbag large, expandable and waterproof in grey and now also in black. Have it for over 10 years and it will fit again on my new RT.😎
I would love to, in fact been trying to get my hands on one but all the bikes that are being delivered here are already sold. People are waiting in line to get them. So I don't know when I will be able to review one. Sorry. take care, Scott
Re top boxes. Get a Givi Maxima hard case 2nd hand about 150€ which is what I did. Mint condition. You can get it painted same colour as panniers and bike if you want and still be quids in. 1100€ for a BMW top box is outrageous. Rip off!
Thank you for the review. I have the exact same RT as yours. My RT has the BMW topcase which is connected to the central locking and is water- and theftproof. Since a topcase is nothing nice to look at I rarely have it mounted. The SW-Motec bag is incredibly ugly and does not fit the good looks of the RT. I recommend to pay the extra money for the BMW topcase.
It is nice to have Options for riding; soft-pak has an advantage and disadvantage, i.e., just another soft-pak, right? if you are riding single, sure, ok, but I don't like the quick release rings or straps if you have some form of load in the bad. I don't think those thin, cheap aluminum "alloy" will endure long. If the cloth loops are strong enough, consider a stronger loop. 2nd. if I have a 2nd rider, I would not trust the strength of those loops for the same reason, as a rider sometimes likes to let go and lean against the backrest/sissy bar w/pad on a harley or a hard box/pack that is stock from BMW. Again, those loops are thin and cheap, i don't think they would hold a person for long, over time, if you are riding for comfort...as a passenger.
I understand the cost performance/benefit argument. I think the deal is here to negotiate the BMW top case as part of your deal. Having central locking and alarm and lighting might not seem worth paying £1000/€1100 for, but when you SW Motech gets removed with a Stanley knife, it might make you regret not buying it. There’s another channel which found (and bought) the top case for £600. He fitted it himself along with the high level brake light.
This is the issue with the GS/A when used for touring. It’s all manual locking and I think it depends on what sort of riding your doing as to whether you decide on soft, hard or OEM luggage….and the depth of your pockets and how brave you’re feeling when you reveal the purchase to your wife.
I forgot to add: I used the BMW large soft bag on my K1200S. It’s now about £175/€190 and I can recommend that since it’s capacity is 55litres and it’s sitting with two BMW System 6 helmets in comfortably with space for gloves and other gear. The current one is blue, and you showed a picture of the small one. Check that out if you want top quality at a lower price than the SW-Motech.
Unfortunately dealers say pay or no play, if you can do it good on you. Oem case is sweet, but for that much?
@@johnambro7181 I realise they have us by the curries, but very soon, in the next few months, once redundancies hit, they’ll be more keen to play our game!
curlies
I have the OEM with brake ligh and... well, it´s not the biggest, nor the cheapest, but as usual it´s whats fits the bike the best. It has soft material inside, a velours mat, hydraulic arms, and even a bulb light...
Bmw are robbers when it comes to luggage my s1000xr came without as to buy tbe 3 boxes is £1100 so i chose shad sh36 panniers and sh39 topbox plus racks £550 but i bought them bit by bit. I may be trading up to r1250gsa soon and my shad boxes are going on the gsa nice vid scott
BMW ARE FOR PEOPLE WITH MONEY, PERIOD!!!!
CHEERS...
I have moved all my shad on and now have bumot defender evo in black with a bmw black rear box
Hahaha no way…I literally JUST put an order in for this bag for an upcoming motocamping trip I have in a few weeks. Anyways, just had to say what great timing this vid is for me, now it’s time to actually finish watching 😅
SW Motech! Glorious equipment. Engineered with functional quality in mind. Built to enjoy and last.
All depends on usage, leaving my RT parked up in Florence while I explored the city was a chore with rear soft case. Ended up finding a locker at the train station to store bag. Have a lockable hard case now.
I was not prepared to pay the exorbitant price for BMW hard luggage for my RS. I went for the SHAD SH35 boxes (just panniers, no top case). They are quality items and the brushed aluminium trim suits the bike well. Also the mounting kit is well-designed and quite unobtrusive. All for less than half the price of the BMW stuff. No brainer. Thanks Scott.
Have the full set of OEM hard luggage w/liners for my R1250RS. No brainer -- an expensive bike with expensive luggage and I accept it. Lockable hard cases beat soft luggage in nearly every situation.
Have the same bag on the back of my Harley Street Glide. Outstanding piece of equipment. 🤙
Ordered the rack pack but long delay so went with the the rear bag, smaller but excellent rear seat bag and expandable too. The straps are easy to use and very secure.
You're becoming my favorite reviewer on the BMW bikes. Thanks for the videos!
I have the same one x 2 on my brand new Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer! One is for my camera gear and one is for charging all my stuff. SW-Motech makes the best gear you can buy PERIOD! I have all their travel gear and it is perfectly designed. Thanks for this video Sir!!
Ride SAFE and BE safe Scot
Cheers Scott thank you for giving me the the confidence to purchase the bag as you say an overkill of storage overall but it will be good for me to put clothes in and put my camera gear in the hard luggage. Enjoying all your videos and thank you for your quick response . John
Glad I could help!
Take care,
Scott
Wow, Scott, you really are in a productive mood these day's! Appreciate it!
Nice review, Scott. I have the ‘22 RT like yours. I never thought I would care for a tank bag, but finally purchased the SW Motech Daypack, and love it. So handy for sunglasses, gloves, water bottle, ear plugs, snacks, etc. SW Motech quality is evident after many months of use. Keep those RT and RT product reviews coming! Thank you.
Been running this bag on my GSA and love it,
How timely, I just added some SW Motech Blaze sidebags to my new RS this week. They are sleek AND look good AND affordable. I've trusted SW Motech with crashbars on past bikes too. Two thumbs up for the review (as you say !)
That is a nice looking bag however the BMW soft Bag large or small are exceptional and very well priced.
They include an intergrated dry bag design slo no messing b around with rain covers.
Yea, that is also one of many good options, gave that some thought too! 👍
Well Scott, you talked me into it. SW-Motech should know that, lol. Since I already have the SW-Motech Daypack tank bag, this Rackpack will be a good match. I plan to use this along with my Touratech dry bag to do some camping in a couple weeks. I found this Rackpack ONLY available from SW_Motech. I shopped at my local (Chicago area) Cycle Gear store where I get a discount, and online but everyone found the Rackpack “Discontinued”. Please keep your reviews of our RT’s and accessories coming. Those (And other BMW bikes) are the only reviews I am interested in 😁. Ride safe.
I have been using the 50 litre BMW soft bag and it is waterproof and has quick release straps as well, not to expensive.
Oh hell yes, I just got a Tracer 900 and looking for a top bag so this is super helpful!
Awesome videos on the rt and rs. Great info and easy voice to listen too. Thanks
I Appreciate the video. Thank you for your time :)
I am using a givi 47 with the aluminum mount on my 2023 1250 RT. Used it on my k1600 for past 4 years and still works awesome. No leaks, lots of room, looks great and no issues. Chose this instead of OEM as it is only $700 with the mount. OEM is really overpriced and you still have to paint it.
Thank you for the comment, I just looked and I can get that for about half the price of the OEM here in Germany. Hmm...🤔
Man, SW Motech makes great products.
I bought te previous model topcase for my bmw 1200 rt lc. Cost me arround 500 euro. Good quality, backrest at the perfect spot, easy te mount and i can use te bmw key.
Great looking bag,thks.
Really great product.👍
I would go the SW Rack Pack. That’s the smart money move. Nice looking ride!
What is nice about this bag is you can use it on multiple bikes.
For civilized places only. Loved the solution... but I'd unfortunately get pretty worried someone would steal the bag (or contents) on a bathroom stop.
I wish I could do what you do or at least help. Im in Erfurt! Love your videos! I didn't know what SW Motech was when I moved to Germany and the same goes for Büse. I thought Büse was some kind of chain store brand like when you see food products at Edeka, Rewe or Tegut etc. But Büse and the rest are pretty good quality. SW Motech since learning about them I have always liked! Prost!
They make nice equipment.....
Appels and oranges!
I don’t doubt that the reviewed bag is ok, but price wise you should compare it to the “BMW Softbag 3 Large” and not the hardcase.
i really love this bike!! great review🤙🏻
Thank you, Sir! This really helps.
Thanks, I went with Lone Rider tail bag
I’m a big spender, so I had to get to factory paint matching box. I just wanted the locking capability.
Thx for the info im in the process of making a decision on the top case.
Glad I could help 👍😁
Could you do a review of tank bags for this bike please?
Nice haircut looks cool!
Great review. Thank you.
I'm in Germany for a few days. I hope I run into you, I'll buy you a beer. (Moselle - moezel)
Very easy to attach/detach... but what do you do with the straps when you remove the bag and want to go for a ride?
How does it work for passenger back rest?
Makes perfect sense. 👍
Researched them all. That's what I bought.
Great informative video Scott, made me look at SW Motech myself. Slightly off topic but what are the jeans you are wearing?
I have a Givi.....£150 brilliant box
Hi Scott i have a givi top box on my RT and am looking at extra storage for my camera gear to put on my rear seat when i go on photography trips. In your opinion will this fit on the seat with the top box on.
Sure no problem. I talk about moving this bag to the seat once I put the BMW top case on the bike in this trip video: th-cam.com/video/9eOkQxQDPIc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JyDNB5x3xDemYzkD
Right around the 12 min mark.
Take care,
Scott
It's a good case no doubt. However... let's face it, a bike of this caliber, does not have a look as it suppose to have with a cheep alternative like this. It just doesn't belong there.
Looks pretty flimsy...how will it hold up to hwy speeds?? And then there's security issue when you go in for lunch.
I've done 230km/h on the autobahn no problem with it at all.
I don't like this one. It is not fully waterproof. Bmw has an excellent softbag large, expandable and waterproof in grey and now also in black. Have it for over 10 years and it will fit again on my new RT.😎
Thanks for your video.
Can you please tell me where you bought the support for the Gopro 9 that you have on the handlebar of the motorcycle?
Thank you
I go over the whole set up in this short video 😁
th-cam.com/video/ZCowtdzw56c/w-d-xo.html
@@NothingToProve thanks
May I ask, when will you review Yamaha R7? Thank you.
I would love to, in fact been trying to get my hands on one but all the bikes that are being delivered here are already sold. People are waiting in line to get them. So I don't know when I will be able to review one. Sorry.
take care,
Scott
Re top boxes. Get a Givi Maxima hard case 2nd hand about 150€ which is what I did. Mint condition. You can get it painted same colour as panniers and bike if you want and still be quids in. 1100€ for a BMW top box is outrageous. Rip off!
Thank you for the review. I have the exact same RT as yours. My RT has the BMW topcase which is connected to the central locking and is water- and theftproof. Since a topcase is nothing nice to look at I rarely have it mounted. The SW-Motec bag is incredibly ugly and does not fit the good looks of the RT. I recommend to pay the extra money for the BMW topcase.
👎
1100 is crazzy why would you waste..
...sieht aber leider aus als hätte man eine Sporttasche draufgeschnallt 😢
enyone kan take the bag easy from the motor so no good
BMW is expensive anyway you slice it. :)
It is nice to have Options for riding; soft-pak has an advantage and disadvantage, i.e., just another soft-pak, right?
if you are riding single, sure, ok, but I don't like the quick release rings or straps if you have some form of load in the bad. I don't think those thin, cheap aluminum "alloy" will endure long. If the cloth loops are strong enough, consider a stronger loop.
2nd. if I have a 2nd rider, I would not trust the strength of those loops for the same reason, as a rider sometimes likes to let go and lean against the backrest/sissy bar w/pad on a harley or a hard box/pack that is stock from BMW. Again, those loops are thin and cheap, i don't think they would hold a person for long, over time, if you are riding for comfort...as a passenger.