Touring Tuscany by BMW R1250RT - Episode One
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- It's time for a brand new TMF Tour series! This time join myself and Mrs Flyer for an incredibly civilised trip around the glorious Italian countryside in Tuscany aboard a brand new BMW R1250RT. Episode 1 of 2. Visit Tuscany Motorcycle Tours at tuscanymotorcy...
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Hi Andy, just wanted to say thanks. I’m an Australian serviceman serving in Malaysia stuck in hospital waiting for an op on my spine. Your latest video brightens my day and allows me to dream of better times when my wife and I can purchase our dream bike for touring the land of oz. GS or RT is my challenge at the moment but given I’m 6ft 4’’ I’m leaning towards the GS. Please keep up the good work your videos are helping with my recovery. In military terms BZ. Jack and pip.
Sorry to hear you're in Hospital Jack - hope things get better for you soon and thanks for the very kind words! All the best for a speedy recovery...
Get the GS Adventure, mate. I’ve got an RT (latest version). I’m 6ft, and have the pegs lowered and my seat on the highest setting. It’s alleviated the pain I had in my knees, but there’s an unexpected consequence of the Wünderlich peg lowering kit. Last week, I tipped into a largish roundabout, leaned forward and opened the throttle. I got the shock of my life. I heard a scraping noise and pulled the brakes and stood the bike up. I thought it was the cylinder head (or the protector). It was the sensor (nipple) on the peg. I was only at 37 degrees, according to the BMW app!
Andy is right about the knee angle. It’s not as relaxed as the GS/GS Adventure. I also suspect (only suspect) the GSA has a higher stand over height, not just because of the elevated suspension travel. The tank is wider. On the RT it’s quite wide and I think it’s wider than the standard GS.
Having put 7.5k miles in all weathers in 5.5 months I can say the weather protection is amazing. The gadgets are superb. The 10.25 screen is far better than the pokey little one on the GS, which is a consideration if you need reading glasses! The electronic goodies are amazing, especially the ACC (radar cruise). I ride mostly in eco mode, I never use rain and hardly use road. Dynamic and eco are the only two you really need, and they are night and day. There’s also one benefit of the RT over the GS/GSA: the lower fairings stop your legs from being barbecued by the cylinder heads on a hot day!
Another great thing about the RT is the panniers are standard, whereas on the GS/GSA they’re an extra (though RT is several thousand pounds more than the GSA.) Now, having said all that, my next bike will be the new GSA! Why? Because the roads in the UK are a total disgrace and like many countries there’s money to waste helping other people, but not British people. The government is playing with the lives of British road users especially motorcyclists. With 8.66in of rear travel and 8.25in at the front compared to only 5in rear travel on the RT, the GSA could fall down the Grand Canyon and ride out…ok an exaggeration! I also think, as my sports exploited body starts to pay the price, the more relaxed keg angle will be better. As they’re adding all the bells and whistles on the new GS, I’m sure it’s the one to buy.
Get well mate.
All the best for a full recovery and better biking days ahead. I think I will eventually end up with a GS at some point too, with a factory lowered chassis due to my disproportionately short legs. All the best to you 👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks Andy. Follow up I have come out of hospital after 2 surgeries. after a few weeks of rehab am fighting fit and ready to ride. PS I bought a 1953 A10 BSA on a whim …… told my wife it was all the drugs. Now it’s back to searching for the ultimate tourer. GSA is looking good. Take care. Jack
Spent my honeymoon in Tuscany 29 years ago, visited many of the same places. Now we are thinking of revisiting because you have awaken those memories. Great to see such a lovely ride through Italy.
Get back there on the bike!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I fully intent to! Love your tours, they are adventures for real people.
Delighted to hear that - thank you!
Another amazing travelogue series to both make me envious and let us travel vicariously for a bit.
Good mix of nationalities and bike manufacturers, The villa and the surrounding area looks beautiful
👍🏻
You have inspired me to do this tour Mr. Flyer! Thank you for making this video tour.
Tell Adrian I sent you!
Fabulous vid. I lived near Siena for several years . You visited many places that bring back great memories. May and June, due to the climate, relative absence of mosquitos and the wild flowers, are the best months to visit. Don't worry about your pronunciation of the places you visited, at least you made an effort! I genuinely can't think of a better holiday. I look forward to more episodes.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another fantastic tour to look forward to.Brilliant seeing you out again on the road.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow! Amazing views and people! Breathtaking journey
We agree!
Fab content, I had the pleasure of being in Tuscany pre-covid and want to return on two wheels. Brilliant work
Thank you - and you should!
Oh my. I recognized it immediately. I stayed there - at Fattoria Poggio Alloro - in 2012. Drank wine outside and had a group feast at that long community table. Would love to ride there on my new 1250 RT.
Lovely isn’t it…
Love it
Italy is one of if not my favourite place to ride
The food is also wonderful
I agree 100%
Well this is a top one👍 Love the bit of sophistication as well. Looking forward to the rest of the vids.
Awesome, thank you! One more vid to come on Wednesday....
Great to see you on tour TMF and what a great tour.
In a month I’m going to do your route to Luxembourg with knobs on. Thanks for giving these tours and ideas 😀
Have fun!
looks fantastic, brilliant coverage of the trip. You are tempting me to get back into biking !
Go for it!
Good vid, certainly lives up to it's name. Beautiful. A good motorcycle as well. Roll it on.
Thank you!
What a beautiful place,the villa looks amazing, great video.
Surprised there was only one moto guzzi thought a V85TT would had been there.
Stunningly beautiful.Thanks.
Our pleasure!
I love bikes, I absolutely love italy ! So I really enjoyed this video, a big thanks ❤
Our pleasure! Next episode on Wednesday....
That last road had a lot of good sweepers. Ideal for bikes.
For sure!
Great bends and I love the town squares 👍🏍
Me too!
Absolutely a fantastic video. Well done.
Many thanks!
Great vid. Beautiful part of the world, very welcoming nation.
Yes I love Italy - one of the best countries on the planet....
@@TheMissendenFlyerif you're still there, get the time and haven't done so, visit Cinque Terre, beautiful.
Great looking tour Andy. looking forward to the next instalment. Nice to see the Italian selection of bikes. Amazingly part of the world to be on a bike with the food, wine, culture ect.. roads aren’t bad either 👍
Glad you enjoyed it - next episode coming on Wednesday!
tuscany is heavenly!
That place is so beautiful! Kinda cool how you have a couple from my state of NC ! I haven't seen one of the new RT's up close. On an interesting note my employer has an Italian machine being installed and we have a number of Italians on site.
Thanks Andy. You certainly know how to pick your motorcycle tours! What a lovely area and lots of good "grub" by the looks. I look forward to following the rest of your journey. Stay safe and have a great time. :>)
Many thanks!
Looks incredible there! 😁
It is!
Great ride. My experience with boxers is that the engine kicking side to side, especial in neutral or at slow speed, abrupt and unwilling to turn easily. The Pan-European is much more smoother and agile. Too bad they stopped making it.
Just MO.
Fair enough!
My dream tour!!! One day....
Yep, the meat sauce is actually Ragu. If you ask for pasta Bolognaise, most won't have it, and the ones that do will serve you pasta with some sausage. :) I think I'd enjoy something like this, staying in a villa, seeing the sights, but the idea of doing it on an unfamiliar bike is a bit less interesting. Doing it on my own bike might be nicer.
Good video
Thanks
What a tough life you lead.... having a 11 hour day riding on my RT, Sunday tomorrow - an advanced riders training course. 1hr and half just getting there! Will follow your ride green with envy!
Thanks for watching......good luck on the course tomorrow!
The advanced riders course and test was for me, fantastic in every respect….well worth the money. I’m certain it made me a safer biker (and motorist; in a safe Volvo XC40!). Good luck 🇬🇧
What stunning scenery and roads just got back from 10 days in France roads and very similar !!! Did carol get any shoes ??? 😀looking forward to the next vid Andy hope to meet you at the ABR festival
Yes can’t wait for the weekend - do come and say hello!! Next Tuscany episode on Wednesday….
Bellisima! Nice one guys! Beautiful region and some amazing roads. Be interesting to compare this 1250 with the K1600 as touring machines….
The K1600 is just too big and top heavy for me to manage on tour....the RT is quite easy to get along with.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I'd be interested to give one a try after my Pan European. 300kg is fairly hefty to wheel around....
How Spagbol got it’s name, you learn something new every day. Bike sound nice. interested to hear what you think of the RT. Beautiful scenery would love to visit some of those medieval towns. Got new tires, oil, plugs, Heading of to the Yukon and possibly Alaska tomorrow.
Cool - loved it there.....enjoy your trip!
Another really nice video Andy :) Did similar trip in Tuscany last summer on my RT. A good tip is to use a cable lock for helmets and carry walking shoes, can then lock boots and jackets in panniers while visiting towns. Looks forward to next in series.
Good tip!
Looks very nice. Good to see couples riding out (even if Mrs.Flyer was riding pillion on someone elses bike). Not sure if i could ride abroad as things like roundabouts always make me think of " UK lane discipline) which is not a good idea. Silly me i know.
It's not hard at all - if you get the chance you should give it a go - big wide world out there!
@@TheMissendenFlyer -many thanks for your encouraging response there. Ride safe- also, it is good that you have a wife who likes bikes ( fortunately my wife is the same).
.....yes it took her a while to see the light though!
Fabulous, very envious. How did you resist peeling off the screen protector? 😂
I was thinking exactly the same ;-)
The temptation was massive I assure you!!
@@TheMissendenFlyerthat is self control right out of the Ogmios school of zen motoring!
thanks for your video. Always exciting to watch your video. Have you experienced a beeching/rattling sound when you pass 3000 rpm? between 3000-4000 rpm?
Nope - can't say I did....
Looks like a great place to ride. I'm not one for walking around town centres in biking gear, though.
I have a question about your comment on your leg position being cramped up on the bike. I've heard other similar comments, and I'm always surprised when I hear them. I'm 5'10" and I have never noticed it on my RT, let alone seen it as a problem. I've never ridden a GS, so maybe it's relative to your experience, but I was wondering if the bike you were riding had the low seat fitted?
I'm looking forward to the next episode. 👍
Nope - it was the standard seat, and as you said, I’m talking relative to the GS - it’s not cramped per se! Comfy machine!
I somehow missed this little series when it was posted! Terrific so far. I wonder, how did you get on in these smaller towns/cities without speaking good Italian? I've heard Italy can be a bit difficult for English-only speakers. That is, assuming you don't speak good Italian. Maybe you do and I'm assuming too much!
Well we were with fluent Italian speakers so it was no issue - when I have been there on my own then I have never had an issue (I have a smattering of French/German/Spanish and can usually get by with something!)
Thank you Andy for the nice video. Tuscany Motorcy. Tours look really nice. Would you do a trip also in the Alps. Would love to get some suggestions in that area of the world as well
I'll pack the bike up now! ;0)
Didn’t ride your Wing down to Italy for the tour? Looks like only 1,000 miles or so. 😁
That would have been great if only we'd had the time!
Ah Italy, another land where they breed their bikes to take you completely round the bend rather quickly, even the little ones, in fact, Priests-on-mopeds could be part of TT Week : )
What jacket are you wearing there? Perhaps you can do some "gear reviews" in the near future?
It’s my Rukka Nivala 2
Hi Andy , Whats the name of the villa you stayed in ?
Can't remember off the top of my head, I do mention it in the next episode though....
Never heard of this Jimmy Arno fella. Surely Gimignano?
I wish i lived closer. Its a bit far to ride my RT from Australia.
We had New Zealanders on the tour, what's the matter with you man!
Same issue with my shoulder on my '16 R1200GS, the bars are too high and forward. My 790 Duke is great as the handlebars are very adjustable. Saw my surgeon recently and looks like a complete shoulder replacement is on the card.
Oh dear….good luck with it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I'm looking into different handlebars for the GS that will hopefully make a difference.
Mamma Mia, I know where I’m going next year,
Tell Adrian I sent you!
Brilliant! I really like the tours you do.
And ....no Helen this time? Aw. :(
Don’t worry - she’ll be back on the next one…
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍
Thanks Andy 👍 You mentioned the leg room on the RT compared to the GS, but how does it compare to your Gold Wing? 😊
A little bit more cramped in the leg department, seat not quite as comfy but otherwise pretty good (I'm being picky, I do like the RT a lot)
What is the brand of the Insta 360 motocycle holder ?
Err Insta360?
Morning that does look amazing. Can you do a video on how you actually sorted this out I have tried a couple of times now the wife wants to go to Tuscany from the UK on our gs but it’s a minefield thanks
Rob
This couldn't be easier - check the website link below in the description, drop them a note and Adrian will take care of the rest...
I see it hasn't got the active cruise control Andy...? That's quite odd when you first use it, feels like it drives itself, but yours doesn't have it! don't need it on roads like that though.
Yes for some reason this RT didn't have that - I have ridden with it on an RT before though.....
How in the world do you and the others get to Siena to start the trip? Doesn't look like the easiest place to access. I suppose you could hire a van from Rome, but at roughly 2.5 hour drive, sounds spendy?
Tuscany motorcycle tours provide an airport pickup and drop off service as part of the deal….
What is the name of the tour company please
Tuscany Motorcycle Tours - link in the description....
No tank bag?
Nope
Signaling there is a speed camera up ahead is indeed quite clever but unfortunately also quite illegal. If the police see you passing such signals you risk a fine.
Really? In Italy??
Love the R1250RT, but if I was to buy a BMW tourer I'd probably buy the K 1600 GTL after I've sold my kidney.
No need to say I’m really envying you a lot 😉✌️
I'd love this but wife's reluctant as 4 to 5 hours she feels is too long ..how did Mrs Fly find it , without comms to chat aswell ?
She was fine with it - but she is used to much longer stints on the bike after our recent Portugal tour and the Alaska one before that. No comms works fine for us - but we are slightly unusual in that I am talking and recording TH-cam videos as I ride of course....
I'm concerned that Mrs Flyer might be having an affair with Adrian.
Proceed with caution.
Looks a top spot you're staying. Nice to see he has some Italian bikes to choose from. To be honest touring from a base in a great area is our preferred option. There's often too much pressure to make distance when moving on every day.
Totally agree - this was a very civilised tour indeed....perfect for pillions too because if they don't want too, they don't have to ride everyday of course....
@TheMissendenFlyer A really nicely edited tour vid, excellent 👌
Thank you - appreciate that....
Thank you for visiting us again! It was awesome and always a pleasure to show you this beautiful region 😊 and Mrs Flyer is a great passenger 😂
Thanks Adrian! Can we do it again next year with sunshine??
@@TheMissendenFlyer absolutely!
You're on ;0)
HI Andy and Carol thanks for another great tour series what a treat for a Saturday morning, I agree with you about the slog we sometimes have to do on tour we are touring the same area and as it takes days to get there you’re often knackered by the time you get to the main bit so it makes sense to fly in and out and enjoy the riding, See you at the ABR in 5 days time 😊
See you there! Looking forward to it!
I’m with you on liking analog dials for speed and RPM. TFTs are nice, but hard to beat dials for quick glance information.
Another splendid series to look forward to thanks Andy. I completely agree regarding the massive TFT, it looks like an afterthought the way its sort of plonked on there. Roll. On the next episode!
Coming on Wednesday!
While you were riding in Tuscany , me and ten friends from the Detroit and Toronto area were riding in Ireland on hired BMW's from Celtic Riders. We followed the shores of Ireland in a clockwise fashion on the Wild Atlantic Way and had a great time. Over the 14 day period we had less rain than you did on day 1 of your 2023 Tuscany tour which did (pleasantly) surprise us. Great scenery, friendly people, lots of sheep and some fabulous chowders. Highly recommended tour and touring outfit.
Very cool!
That looks like a really smashing set up! Bravo! lovely to see that Italian countryside and those towns too. Having a day off makes a lot of sense too. (Mrs F “ because it’s got a top box.. “yeah right, nothing to do with the good looking sexy Italian in front 🤣)
....I wouldn't know about that....(PS Adrian the tour leader is actually Spanish ;0) )
😊happy days !
Very nice TMF, looks like a great trip. Also a "novel" but seemingly obvious solution in having a fixed base, & one as lovely as that too! Looking forward to the next episode.
Not jealous, at all... blimmen hungry, *for some reason*
Thanks for taking us along again, Andy. 😀 I do appreciate you taking a moment to check out what everyone is riding, even if you don't remember riding that Moto Guzzi model, heh. Hope Carol enjoys the rage and she shop she found again. 😉
My pleasure!
A terrific start to what looks like another fabulous European tour! I'm eagerly awaiting more...
Next - and final - episode coming on Wednesday....
Was is difficult to get accustomed to the left hand drive bike ??
He he - much easier riding a bike on the right than renting a foreign car and driving that for sure....
Having had three GS’ and now on an RT, I find that the “tucked up” riding position of the RT to be more comfortable on the longer rides.
I agree Ian. I’ve had two GSs and definitely prefer the RT riding position. For me it’s the perfect machine.
That's interesting - I did enjoy my time on the RT I must say,....
Good to see you back on another tour.
We are great fans of Tuscany and one of our favourite lunch stops is Lucca.
You were commenting about the marble stairs in the villa, when you get up in the Tuscan mountains you will find the marble mines and villages where the churches are totally made of marble and in one village even the kerbstones where made of marble.
Looking forward to the next episode.
Tuscany, amazing scenery, food and and the other stuff. Why am I thinking Alan B’Stard? Great destination 👍
Very enjoyable TMF ! And taken to a higher level editing of scenes and background music in comparison to previous vids. Bravo!! ❤😀💯
Many thanks!
Missed this episode last week 😔
The RT is a great bike, I owned one. The weight of the bike became an issue for my shoulders when moving it around without engine power and cornering at low speeds, so I bought a lighter one.
I rode the RT in heavy rain and it kept me dry while riding.
I could just reach the ground on my RT, on a GS I couldn’t. Same with the V-Strom. On my Honda CBF100, I can easily reach the ground.
Did the cafe segment end abruptly because the Mrs said "take that f***ing camera out of our faces"
He he - no more likely I forgot to film any more as I was too busy eating....!
Since you've ridden a few different countries where would you fancy retiring to...Its a hard life but someone has to endure it...
England!
One day if I were to play and win the lottery I might be able to afford a holiday like this. In the mean time I shall have to continue using my tent staying at small quiet campsites.
The detailed map info about your route around there would be great to see here, thanks tmf. Looks more interesting area than Alaska and such.
Looks awesome! I’ll be interested in your views on the RT, I test rode one recently and I was very impressed. I currently ride a GS and don’t off road anymore, so looking at options.
Yes it is a thought isn't it.....I talk about it more at the end of the next episode....
I have an 2021 RT le if you don't go off road the RT is quite sporty in the twisty roads
I agree about the tft. It made me buy the 2018 instead. Something about seeing needles fly around dials which I’d miss
Glad we concur!
Totally enjoy your videos, but that microphone is a proper NO mate...lol
Looks like a fab tour, I've bookmarked Tuscany Motorcycle Tours for potential future adventures. I've been touring a bit with @teapotone and @simonweir recently, you need a sporty tourer like the RT to stay with the front group ;-)
Indeed you do!
That loox like a much more comfortable tour with stops using a base to explore from. Rather than having to knock out several hundred miles a day. One thing though, I'd like to see the names of the towns and villages stopped at come up on the screen. Or the route you ride at the end of the video.
Yes not a bad idea that - thanks for the idea!
Spaghetti bolognese is not part of traditional Bolognese or even Italian cuisine (10:50). It was invented abroad around 1917 in the USA or maybe in the UK by southern Italian immigrants, as tagliatelle was hard to get hold of in World War I.
Very nice accommodation. I just returned from my 24 day Tennesse to California round-trip on the Wing. I was sometimes lucky to find a bag of crisps for dinner and you have a dining room every night? 😄
Andy stop making ridiculous excuses, your wife does not trust your riding skills and the bike is too big for you...I am sure she prefers the skills of a more physical rider 😂
What a cracking tour that would be, another one for the bucket list. Too bad they didn't have any V100 Mandello's to ride; I ordered one of those six weeks ago and can't wait for it to arrive!
Congratulations!
I love your travel videos. As a GoldWing rider, I am still looking forward to you and Mrs. Flyer taking a nice tour on your Mighty GoldWing.
Us too!
Completely ignored the Ducati scrambler 😮
Yes my bad - not intentional I assure you.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer it's Ducati is answer to a grown-up Honda Monkey 😆 plus I’ve seen your review
Thankfully! 😂
Heck of a job to have for Adrian - motorcycle tour guide in Tuscany. I'm sure there are things about that job too that are nightmarish, but getting to ride around Tuscany on a daily basis just seeing the sights, no pressure, and making a living off... I guess Adrian wins! 😂 Sounds like the planning is good also - as you say, not an endurance test. If you go somewhere to be a tourist and ride, the riding is important but hammering out 8 hour rides isn't really the goal, the goal is to see the sights and have a vacation surely.
Agreed - and Adrian makes it look easy, that's the trick, believe me running a motorcycle tour business is not as straightforward or stress free as it may seem!
Yet another excellent video and a fine view around the magnificent countryside. I question your habit of revving out in 2nd and 3rd gears on some of those roads having owned a number of RTs and GSs. Why not change up and enjoy BMW’s major feature, torque.😁👍
I find lower gears work in the twisties….
Very nice 3400 euros per person … gulp .. shame in another life maybe
A Drone Flying Pillion passenger please.
Love this!!! Best trip to date guys!!
Glad you think so! I just posted episode two!
Perfect timing...my Saturday morning treat as I have my full English! ❤
Nice one - enjoy!