@@johnhicks8626left the cord with the psu cables, lol. For the puck I leave it on the cases side shell sometimes and it gives off a tidy look. I got the red s340 elite, $50 two years ago. I want to upgrade to something from China so my pc is lighter idc about the materials I find the cheaper ones are often better with airflow, lol. But the s340 elite is my baby I'll put a scrape build in or swap it for something I find of value.
I found another use for the HDMI pass-through. I put an Elgato HD60 S inside my case attached to the cable management bar. Now whenever I want to record an HDMI source, I can plug it into the top of the case. Simple and keeps the cable clutter off my desk.
I've been trying to figure out how to look for a GPU with front-facing HDMI for this reason... Manufacturers don't really market them very well... This is a brilliant idea. A "dead" front-facing port would kill me haha.. So a cap-card is actually a good use for it!
Not that the reviewer mentioned it, but the case has a cable long enough and a designated cut out for the passthrough hdmi cable to plug right into the back of a gpu. What he also failed to grasp was the fact the hmdi passthough isn't to extend cable length but make it easier to simply plug in vr devices without the hassle of reaching round back of the case to plug in a couple of cables especially if you have your set-up like me, under my desk with restricted access to the rear I/O.
How did you mount the HD60s? Also, if im using the hd60s for recording/streaming Xbox One gameplay, mounting it inside the case would require me to play the xbox using my monitor? I currently am setup to stream from the couch on my TV, and i rather enjoy that.
5 years later and I still LOVE the case and have no intention of changing it. I've done a couple of mods to it, most notably to the front panel ( prior to the mod I was using it with the panel off most of the time) and Im still as happy with it as the day i got it (well, okay, maybe a bit less than the day I got it, I was hyped that day lol)
Change it to wumbo Same. Only thing I hated is that you MUST plug in the cables in the Power supply before putting them in otherwise you will have to mess around in there. The holes are in the perfect places to hide cables.
Change it to wumbo Hold till Vega. I bought a gtx 1080 with a 4k freesync monitor. I will buy an AMD card if I see that they perform. I render a lot so having a card rendering while playing is a bonus.
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Hey nice video man! I really like this case but I'm between this one and the Cougar Panzer-S. Wich one would you recommend me to buy and why? Thank you and I really like your videos a lot!
I have the case andI always play in 25’C degrees room and dont have any issues with temp buuuuttttt never play more than 2 hours i5 6500 stock cooler and gtx 1070 here greetings from mexico
To my knowledge, those comments about airflow are completely wrong. If you have no top fan and mount a rad in the back as exhaust almost no air will enter the case from above. Hot air from the gpu/cpu would rise and exit partially in the rear and the top which would mean top grill would do absolutely nothing. You need to create positive air pressure. Testing without good front intake fans is irrelevant, since nobody in their right mind would leave the airflow at stock. The "no air for intake" argument makes no sense to me since the s340 non elite has the same design, no side mesh, psu shroud, identical situation and it has good airflow with dual intake fans
i am unsure how testing was done for this review, this case as well as the s340 keep components cool just fine with an AIO radiator installed at the front. if you have a tower cooler just install 2 120 or 140mm fans at the front as well. the top and bottom ports are pretty wide and allow plenty of air to enter the case. i think you should have tested it with fans at the front when doing the temp charts or simply re-positioning the included ones. personally i have done several builds around this chassis using AIO and even stock heatsink and with that experience cannot agree with that part of your review. also you cannot place a fan at the bottom where the air would just go to the bottom section of the case. there is no space there to mount one. both fans go from the middle to the top. one other thing the elite fixed over the s340 is the rear vertical cover that mounts after the video card is installed. on the s340 if you had a radiator installed at the rear location you where not able to install that bracket after. but in the elite that bracket was tweaked a bit and now it is possible to remove or place it without having to remove the radiator. i understand what you talk about, the airflow can always be improved. but it is by no means how your last statement makes it out to be. other than those and a couple more details on improvements you missed this is a great review
I bought this case after watching reviews of people using a watercooler in the front and their temps were amazing. they also had SLI in this case which if I heard him right was impossible...so I'm not quite sure what this guy was talking about if he actually even reviewed more than one set-up in this case.
the front intake.....the front intake, let me say it again...the front intake. The bottom and top of the front panel are open. Pulls plenty of air from the front....
Ti-7-4Raven it is important. Kind of regretting my last upgrade with Phanteks Evolv ATX TG. The front intake is so restricted that causing the exhaust fan creates negative air pressure. My roommate who S340 elite does much better
I'd like to give you a friendly yet stern advice on your testing methodology. You should definitely implement front intake fans in all of the cases that you test, in order to appropriately test these cases. The truth is, no one is going to buy these cases and not implement front intake fans on them. I'm pretty sure in 2017, a lot of people are aware of the importance of airflow. A lot of people might already have a case and will use those fans in the new case, while others will simply buy 2 extra fans. This is a very important point because, the fact that you guys are testing all your cases without front intakes installed, makes the results completely useless. Sorry I just really need to get this point through to you guys. Your case tests can be extremely useful if you do it the correct way.
Hey Steve, love the videos. I disagree with your methodology for this review as it pertains to the system you put in it. NZXT S340 Elite and non-Elite versions are really designed to sell Krakens. They don't give you a front fan because they intend for you to put a 240 or 280 radiator there, which would give you more (though slightly warmer) airflow. If you don't do that, they expect you'll buy a pair of 120's or 140's. You put all air-cooled hardware in there without any intake fans, which was never how they intended for the case to be set up. In mine, I have a Kraken X42 in the top slot and a BeQuiet! Silent Wings 3 on bottom to feed the triple fan GPU that fits in the case. My 970 GPU temps with a 10% OC stubbornly stay at 59c. 7700K at 4.8 GHz stays around 60c under load as well. I think it's really a completely different case when you add some intake. Feel free to knock NZXT for not providing them for you, but please don't imply the case has some kind of design flaw when you didn't test it with intake cooling fans. It's not like intake cooling is not supported or something. Keep up the good work!
@TheVillainOfTheYear Interesting. Are you till running such system and how AIOs hold up? Where you installed GPU cooler, in front? I don't understand how an AIO in front can improve airflow, sorry. If you mount it with the aspiring fans inside the case, it aspire hot air. But if you mount it with intake fans from the outside, your AIO will blow hot air in your case.
@@simplydesan211 still running the same system after 4 years with zero issues. The gradient of air temperature before the radiator to after radiator really isn't that high. The radiator warms the air a little, but it's still not so hot (when used at normal operating temps) that it affects everything else. I have Kraken as intake in S340 with load temps on my 7700k that it's cooling at about 70 degrees with my water cooled 1070 Ti with a rear 120mm exhaust radiator running around 63 degrees. The most important thing to get the freshest air is the radiators for your hottest components. They will benefit the most from cool air. Slightly warmer air going over low power components like your RAM is not noticeable.
It's fun to read all the old comments whining about Steve criticizing the lack of front intake of the S340, now knowing that NZXT actually heard this advice, and put a frontal intake on the H series a year or so later.
I bought this case. Don't really care that the GPU temps are higher in this case because i don't do any sort of extreme overclocking on my GTX 1070. Never going to SLI/CF either. Perfect case for me! :)
Dimitri Sainis i just ordered off amazon. Have you built your set-up in this case yet? Is your average gpu temp higher as compared to your previous case especially during gaming?
xclarkkent I have purchased this case but it hasn't arrived yet (arriving this Wednesday). My current case is a NZXT H440. So it's for sure going to be cooler in the S340 Elite. Can't tell you any numbers yet though.
I love how Gamers Nexus give companies constructive criticism and ideas and suggestions on how to improve their cases. I hope these companies take heed! :)
Month old but ^^ - he's still doing it so I've been going back through his case reviews. I seriously don't get it, I don't understand his logic in putting comparing cases 'stock' ... as though the average PC builder would build a system without front intake fans. Like back along when this review first came out, he was quite literally the ONLY reviewer saying this shit - because he was the only reviewer putting a case with no intake fans installed, up against cases like the 570X with its triple intake fans ... just, what sort of skewed and biased methodology is that? and he's still doing it. His logic, I guess is - 'oh but its how they come stock' - uh ... that logic just doesn't fly? unless the PC Builder in question is adversely stupid, even a beginner rarely makes that mistake, even beginners purchase enough fans for them to fully occupy the front intake. But hey, pretty sure the reason why Gamers Nexus is getting less an less review samples from case manufacturers is due to this, its in no way a fair way to compare cases and gauge the cases Airflow. It's a shame, since he can be a pretty cool dude ... just, again a shame that he's such an condescending asshole at times, especially when using such a borked and heavily skewed methodology. End of reply to month old statement!
excellent job as always love the wooden background most people use white, but I love natural earth colors and tones puts the review item in a different perspective excellent job once again
Great video as always, Steve! Would like to see a review of the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass Edition from you guys! I've been wanting to buy it for a long time and you always seem to get the most detailed pros and cons in your reviews. Have a nice day, sir!
I bought this case and im running with 280mm aio in the FRONT with pull config, and have the original casefans as they are, and i have NOOOO problem with temps at all...
I can appreciate your attempt at trying to apply some science to your reasoning, but I have to say I think your assessment of this case and it's design are way off. For starters, the "VR" aspects of this case are actually quite compelling, and I believe you missed the point that many users will not. The HDMI pass through provides easy HDMI port accessibility for a device that will constantly be removed from the machine when not in use. You completely missed that one. And the puck is ingenious. Very simple, and nobody came up with that idea prior to their implementation. You didn't even mention that the puck splits into two pieces, which is really great for wrapping up long cables, especially VR, and even wired headsets. It's not the greatest thing ever, but it stands out (I know you split it physically, but you didn't mention it). I think you lacked a bit of foresight and decided to go straight for a condescending stance on NZXT's excitement over their idea. Kinda felt like a hipster move, just my opinion. And as far as air cooling, I don't think you understand the physics of airflow very well. The space the front panel provides at the top and bottom is plenty to draw air no matter where the fans are placed on the front. The point is, you have to place fans there in order to assess how they will do. I bet if you did a simple smoke test with fans installed up front, your opinion on this design would probably change a bit. I think most will agree that putting fans in the front of any case will make the biggest difference to overall case cooling. I think your belief that it will not have impact on the GPU is just wrong. The proof is in the amount of users that aren't having cooling problems with this case. I don't know about you, but I don't know many people that are having cooling issues with this case- and there are a ton running it with a huge variety of implementations.
Yes, for me, having the HDMI and 2 USB 3.0 slots on the front mean I can keep my headset plugged in all the time instead of having to go around the back and plug and unplug etc. Wish more cases would follow suit.
Tekuila Gaming Yep me too. I have a H115i cooling my 6700k in the front and it does just fine. I don't understand why he says there's "no intake" because that's what the front fans are for...? xD
I have this case in white. i purchased two intake fans and my temps are DOWN considerably. I am all air cooling though. Its beautiful and convenient.I personally love it for its price. I only wish they offered it in white and purple like the regular s340
Thanks for the video I was all stoked to get this case for my future proof build but since, in the next couple years, I want to add a 2 gpu SLI setup, this case would be terrible for heat management. Thank you for helping me make the right choice!!
BTW guys a Noctua D15 will fit. You just need to lower the 140mm fans a little bit. It keeps my 5820K 4.4GHZ 1.25V V Core at 75C when 100% utilization.
Im pretty sure the only reason they didn't put the fans in the front cause they did basic research and saw that most people building pcs are using 240-280 radiators so they left the front open for them to put it there. If you would simply just put fans in the front you will see a huge difference and finally the puck can be used for more things then just a vr headset such as headphones or controllers. This is clearly a biased review.
Honestly that's where my mind went. Don't supply fans, let the user choose their own cooling solution. I mean, two 120mm fans are not expensive. And if you wanted to get an AIO, you're set out of the gate, not having to faff on removing the fans it came with/ So reviewing this as it is out of the box, which no enthusiast or even passing gamer would actually do, feels REALLY disingenuous.
What he meant is that if they positioned a fan there it would go into the psu shroud. Even still a large amount of the air pulled from the "GPU" intake fan gets pulled into the psu shroud. Now you can cover it, but since it's so far away from the bottom and the top, the amount of air it pulls via it's position, is very little.
I never realized how little air passed through the middle mounted intake fan until i took the front cover off and looked at the dust filter. My thermals were lower then the videos, but i am running 4 fans and using a AIO liquid cooled cpu.
What a great review very informative. I really like this case and planning to buy this soon. But the only thing that concerns me is the air flow. Maybe i would look for another tempered glass case. Thanks man!
Chris Ali You call an entirely open top and bottom closed off? I get great thermals in my S340 and compared to other cases like the Coolermaster H500P it's like the front is wide open
I'm going to be honest i never watched GN reviews because of your hair... always flipping it and such... but ive gotten over it and like the content. one question though about this review as i havent read the whole review just the video. did you test it with an intake in the middle? im considering this case or the old one and from what i hear its the exact same intake as before. fyi only reason im considering this instead of the regular is the extra usb lol. thanks keep up good work!
Did you guys test temps with additional fan sin the front? I have this case with 2 140mm fans and a 280 aio in the front and they are by no means starved of air. I can feel plenty of air coming though the rad.
16 months later... pretty good selling case. You are a wealth of information Mr. Nexus, but the review on this one went right through your front intake...
.it supports 2 140 and intake comes from bottom and up from the front panel..I tested so many times it works. I have a rad in front with 3 fans and never had temps reaching 80
I'm a year late but. The case is more suited for negative pressure, aka more fans pulling air out, adding intake fans actually worsens the temperatures or doesn't change anything usually
@@rotsec On the NZXT S340 Elite? I am not wrong no, there is several videos about it you can look them up, also I see you are a year late to the reply as well lmao
I just built a rig in a Fractal Design Define C, I'd highly recommend checking it out and maybe reviewing it. Similar setup, airflow is great, love it. I'd say it trades size/tempered glass for compactness/noise dampening.
On point...my h100i gtx was getting barely any intake and my temps were mid 40s on idle in an S340. Switched to an Enthoo Pro M and temps are 31-36 C idle
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass will be released on Dec. 16, 2016 @ $99.99 on Newegg. Very nice cable management and no problem with cooling at all. Maybe Gamers Nexus will consider doing a review in the near future.
love the case its classy and slick. Got my family photos on it in magnetic frames and the puck is handy for headphones. dunno why they didn't allow two fans in the top though, I'm thinking using two aio 120mm water coolers for the GPU and CPU on the front.
I like the puck -- because it would be cool to wrap the cord of my digital radiograph sensor around it -- keeping the cord well-organized. I can also use the metal front to stick my intraoral cameral on it as well.
I'm going to get this case and when I'm gaming pretty hard and all that I'll probably take the front cover off so my fans get good airflow. But I'll put it back on for pictures and when I show friends. The "hockey puck" with probably end up getting used for my headphones
Just got this case for couple of weeks, running crossfire nitro+ RX 580. An 100% gaming load, top GPU runs 62C and bottom GPU runs at 57C, CPU runs at 40C and case temp are 44C. The case running with full speed 2x Noctua 140mm PWM fans for intake and stock 2x 120mm fans. This is one good looking case. I got the white one :)
I am definitely going to run dual water cooled GPU's with radiator on the front. Haven't decided push the hot air out the front or pull it inside the case.
I have the non elite version and my 1060 does not go above 66C while at 100% load. Also my 8600K is overclocked and it does not go above 50-55 while gaming. I see no thermal issues at all even with ambient temp at 25-30C during the summer. Using two fans for exhaust and two on the front for intake.
I want to get this case. Thinking to Use 2 noctua 120mm high airflow as exhaust and a 240mm aio rad as intake (CM MasterLiquidPro 280). I live in South Africa and gets hot in summer 30+°C. Do you think this will be a good cool system?
Nice review but I disagree with the last part. I've had this case for a month now and the front panel does not need the lateral ventilation. I believe that this is because the tempered glass has about 1-2mm distance from the case. The case is not completely sealed with the tempered glass mounted. I've got a H80i intaking on this case, with an overclocked i7 6700k 4.65ghz and temps are 51ºc - 58ºc (min core/max core). The radiator's fan is pushing air against the GPU area and it's all the air the GPU needs (r9 280X stock fan speed and max 68ºc on load). And this is the case where I'm actually using the "hot" air from the radiator to cool the GPU area. If I did not have a watercooler a regular fan would do even better. links: s24.postimg.org/i4k54e811/nzxt.jpg s16.postimg.org/5ab2qq8c5/nzxtttt.jpg
I have the NZXT razor s340 and an Rx480 sapphire nitro, daaaaaamn it gets hot AF up to 80ºC on stock boost clocks, a 240 rad on the front with amd fx 8320e @4.6 ghz and 2 corsair sp120 HP as exhaust on back and top, i had to remove the side window to get some good temps, i am hoping to make some kind of mesh with it.
Two and a half years later, we are literally drowning in glass side panels. Yes, literally. I have mere minutes of oxygen remaining, and my final thoughts will be of the crushing guilt every time I saw a week's dust sitting atop my video card's backplate, and my paralyzing fear of touching the side panel with anything other than an ammonia-soaked rag.
I have 120mm fan exhausting the back, a 140mm fan exhausting on top and a x62 kracken with two nzxt aer 140mm fans in a pull config and my gpu and CPU run cool under load. 1070 and i7 7700k... you needed to actually mount fans on the front as it does actually pull air in.
Is there anything stopping me from drilling holes in the side of the front panel? Because if not, that seems like a really easy solution that makes this case better than Corsairs in every way.
Welllll, I bought the Elite and I will just have to take a $100 chance on it. Thanks for the fantastic review, as usual. I picked it because I wanted white and a glass panel. I hope I dont have any issues.
rage5606 just mount two 140mm fans on the front and you'll be ok. I have an aio with two 140's in the pull config, 120 exhausting the back and a 140 exhausting the top. runs so damn cool lol
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I had to install the fans in a push configuration because the radiator is so tall that it interfears with the USB connections at the top. I am still amazed that I fit an EVGA Z270 with 16 Gigs of ram, 240 mm Corsair AIO radiator in the front, and an EVGA Hybrid 1080 video card with AIO Radiator too. I did fit a snorkel exhaust in the top as well and it is all a bit tight, but it screams! Played the latest Deus Ex game that had lots of complaints about frame rate and such at Ultra settings with no issues. There are some real issues with the EVGA Z270 board fitting perfectly. If you want access to both of the USB3 headers you will have to do some cutting because the forward header is blocked by the case. Otherwise, I am really loving it! Thanks for the advice.
Late to the party, but this case doesn't cool any better with no front panel, at least with a Kraken X62. I doubt the slots down the side of the front panel would change anything. Temps didn't change in any significant way either with benchmarks or games with the front panel removed (this is with a 6700k and a 1080Ti).
@@sousa2721 I was seeing high 70s with all fans on high. I moved everything over to a Hyte Revolt 3 with just the 2 140s exhausting on top of the 280 rad and it stays in the mid 70s.
I see two things wrong with this review. 1st_ There is no bottom front fan mount. 2nd_ There is a lower air intake at the front panel and not just at the top. I think having a 280mm radiator mounted at the front using intake air should work just fine with two 140mm exhaust fans mounted at the back and top.
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2 years on, I cannot stress enough the importance of that puck to store my gaming headset. It's brilliant!
Where did you route the HDMI passthrough? I got one of these used... no puck!
@@johnhicks8626never used the vr
@@johnhicks8626left the cord with the psu cables, lol. For the puck I leave it on the cases side shell sometimes and it gives off a tidy look. I got the red s340 elite, $50 two years ago. I want to upgrade to something from China so my pc is lighter idc about the materials I find the cheaper ones are often better with airflow, lol. But the s340 elite is my baby I'll put a scrape build in or swap it for something I find of value.
don't you dare critisice my puck!!! i love that puck, that puck saved my life at omaha beach back in 1944.
I wouldnt have made it back from vietnam if it wasnt for that puck.
I just made it back after being trapped in the Himalaya for a year. All I had to eat were some roots and this surprisingly nutritious puck from NZXT.
This channel is the most educational pc channel on yt. No bs.
Indeed. Definitely worth becoming a Patron, if you can.
I completely agree with you.
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Yep. Only Science Studio comes slightly close although, I find Gregg to be a bit of an ass with his followers.
I found another use for the HDMI pass-through. I put an Elgato HD60 S inside my case attached to the cable management bar. Now whenever I want to record an HDMI source, I can plug it into the top of the case. Simple and keeps the cable clutter off my desk.
That's actually a great idea!
I've been trying to figure out how to look for a GPU with front-facing HDMI for this reason... Manufacturers don't really market them very well... This is a brilliant idea. A "dead" front-facing port would kill me haha.. So a cap-card is actually a good use for it!
Not that the reviewer mentioned it, but the case has a cable long enough and a designated cut out for the passthrough hdmi cable to plug right into the back of a gpu. What he also failed to grasp was the fact the hmdi passthough isn't to extend cable length but make it easier to simply plug in vr devices without the hassle of reaching round back of the case to plug in a couple of cables especially if you have your set-up like me, under my desk with restricted access to the rear I/O.
How did you mount the HD60s? Also, if im using the hd60s for recording/streaming Xbox One gameplay, mounting it inside the case would require me to play the xbox using my monitor? I currently am setup to stream from the couch on my TV, and i rather enjoy that.
Matthew Bowler that's genius. Thank you for the idea!
Does the cat come with the case?
hopefully not
5 years later and I still LOVE the case and have no intention of changing it. I've done a couple of mods to it, most notably to the front panel ( prior to the mod I was using it with the panel off most of the time) and Im still as happy with it as the day i got it (well, okay, maybe a bit less than the day I got it, I was hyped that day lol)
how did you mod the front? been running it w/o intake fans for 5 years and just now thinking I should probably add some...
Have had this case for 6 years and still loving it. Just ordered 4070 TI and it should fit it fine :D
Best case ever, I got the white variant
Change it to wumbo Same. Only thing I hated is that you MUST plug in the cables in the Power supply before putting them in otherwise you will have to mess around in there. The holes are in the perfect places to hide cables.
Thanks for the tip, I haven't put my build together yet, waiting to see if amd does anything, freestyle monitors are so much cheaper than gsync
Change it to wumbo Hold till Vega. I bought a gtx 1080 with a 4k freesync monitor. I will buy an AMD card if I see that they perform. I render a lot so having a card rendering while playing is a bonus.
Mickxal Did you snag one?
These days GN would rip this case to shreds.
Hey everyone! Thanks as always for watching :) We've been having fun diversifying the content with some case & cooler reviews lately. Full review is over this way, as always! --> www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2709-nzxt-s340-elite-review-temperature-noise-cable-management
How do you compare this against the In Win 303, Corsair 400c or the CoolerMaster Pro 3? Thanks!
where do i buy the white cables and what ones do i need to buy for this case with a 1080 ftw hybrid and for the motherboard? Thanks
Hey nice video man!
I really like this case but I'm between this one and the Cougar Panzer-S.
Wich one would you recommend me to buy and why?
Thank you and I really like your videos a lot!
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I have the case andI always play in 25’C degrees room and dont have any issues with temp buuuuttttt never play more than 2 hours i5 6500 stock cooler and gtx 1070 here greetings from mexico
To my knowledge, those comments about airflow are completely wrong. If you have no top fan and mount a rad in the back as exhaust almost no air will enter the case from above. Hot air from the gpu/cpu would rise and exit partially in the rear and the top which would mean top grill would do absolutely nothing. You need to create positive air pressure. Testing without good front intake fans is irrelevant, since nobody in their right mind would leave the airflow at stock. The "no air for intake" argument makes no sense to me since the s340 non elite has the same design, no side mesh, psu shroud, identical situation and it has good airflow with dual intake fans
Getting fancy with that camera vertigo effect @ 4:52 eh
i am unsure how testing was done for this review, this case as well as the s340 keep components cool just fine with an AIO radiator installed at the front. if you have a tower cooler just install 2 120 or 140mm fans at the front as well. the top and bottom ports are pretty wide and allow plenty of air to enter the case. i think you should have tested it with fans at the front when doing the temp charts or simply re-positioning the included ones. personally i have done several builds around this chassis using AIO and even stock heatsink and with that experience cannot agree with that part of your review. also you cannot place a fan at the bottom where the air would just go to the bottom section of the case. there is no space there to mount one. both fans go from the middle to the top. one other thing the elite fixed over the s340 is the rear vertical cover that mounts after the video card is installed. on the s340 if you had a radiator installed at the rear location you where not able to install that bracket after. but in the elite that bracket was tweaked a bit and now it is possible to remove or place it without having to remove the radiator. i understand what you talk about, the airflow can always be improved. but it is by no means how your last statement makes it out to be. other than those and a couple more details on improvements you missed this is a great review
Techsauce totally agree.
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This was a much better review than the video. They should pin this
I bought this case after watching reviews of people using a watercooler in the front and their temps were amazing. they also had SLI in this case which if I heard him right was impossible...so I'm not quite sure what this guy was talking about if he actually even reviewed more than one set-up in this case.
Techsauce Thanks
Going to buy one next summer. Can't Wait!
the front intake.....the front intake, let me say it again...the front intake. The bottom and top of the front panel are open. Pulls plenty of air from the front....
Everyone seems to overestimate how "restrictive" intakes on a lot of cases really are these days.
Also you can just make it an exhaust if you're running a liquid CPU cooler, and have the top and back fans intake for the GPU.
no you cant
Ti-7-4Raven it is important. Kind of regretting my last upgrade with Phanteks Evolv ATX TG. The front intake is so restricted that causing the exhaust fan creates negative air pressure. My roommate who S340 elite does much better
guess
I'd like to give you a friendly yet stern advice on your testing methodology. You should definitely implement front intake fans in all of the cases that you test, in order to appropriately test these cases. The truth is, no one is going to buy these cases and not implement front intake fans on them. I'm pretty sure in 2017, a lot of people are aware of the importance of airflow. A lot of people might already have a case and will use those fans in the new case, while others will simply buy 2 extra fans. This is a very important point because, the fact that you guys are testing all your cases without front intakes installed, makes the results completely useless. Sorry I just really need to get this point through to you guys. Your case tests can be extremely useful if you do it the correct way.
@Gamers Nexus
I saw that dolly zoom at the beginning! great camera work!
Hey Steve, love the videos. I disagree with your methodology for this review as it pertains to the system you put in it. NZXT S340 Elite and non-Elite versions are really designed to sell Krakens. They don't give you a front fan because they intend for you to put a 240 or 280 radiator there, which would give you more (though slightly warmer) airflow. If you don't do that, they expect you'll buy a pair of 120's or 140's. You put all air-cooled hardware in there without any intake fans, which was never how they intended for the case to be set up. In mine, I have a Kraken X42 in the top slot and a BeQuiet! Silent Wings 3 on bottom to feed the triple fan GPU that fits in the case. My 970 GPU temps with a 10% OC stubbornly stay at 59c. 7700K at 4.8 GHz stays around 60c under load as well. I think it's really a completely different case when you add some intake. Feel free to knock NZXT for not providing them for you, but please don't imply the case has some kind of design flaw when you didn't test it with intake cooling fans. It's not like intake cooling is not supported or something.
Keep up the good work!
@TheVillainOfTheYear
Interesting. Are you till running such system and how AIOs hold up? Where you installed GPU cooler, in front?
I don't understand how an AIO in front can improve airflow, sorry.
If you mount it with the aspiring fans inside the case, it aspire hot air.
But if you mount it with intake fans from the outside, your AIO will blow hot air in your case.
@@simplydesan211 still running the same system after 4 years with zero issues. The gradient of air temperature before the radiator to after radiator really isn't that high. The radiator warms the air a little, but it's still not so hot (when used at normal operating temps) that it affects everything else.
I have Kraken as intake in S340 with load temps on my 7700k that it's cooling at about 70 degrees with my water cooled 1070 Ti with a rear 120mm exhaust radiator running around 63 degrees. The most important thing to get the freshest air is the radiators for your hottest components. They will benefit the most from cool air. Slightly warmer air going over low power components like your RAM is not noticeable.
Excellent review as always Steve. Thanks
I appreciate the hard work and honesty in your reviews.
I love your case reviews. Please, please do more.
It's fun to read all the old comments whining about Steve criticizing the lack of front intake of the S340, now knowing that NZXT actually heard this advice, and put a frontal intake on the H series a year or so later.
I bought this case. Don't really care that the GPU temps are higher in this case because i don't do any sort of extreme overclocking on my GTX 1070. Never going to SLI/CF either. Perfect case for me! :)
Dimitri Sainis i just ordered off amazon. Have you built your set-up in this case yet? Is your average gpu temp higher as compared to your previous case especially during gaming?
xclarkkent I have purchased this case but it hasn't arrived yet (arriving this Wednesday). My current case is a NZXT H440. So it's for sure going to be cooler in the S340 Elite. Can't tell you any numbers yet though.
Dimitri Sainis that's great. Can't wait for your update.
@@xclarkkenthe never gave an update..
I love how Gamers Nexus give companies constructive criticism and ideas and suggestions on how to improve their cases. I hope these companies take heed! :)
Its only constructive criticism if it makes sense. Testing a case with NO intake fans vs cases with them.... its pointless.
Month old but ^^ - he's still doing it so I've been going back through his case reviews. I seriously don't get it, I don't understand his logic in putting comparing cases 'stock' ... as though the average PC builder would build a system without front intake fans.
Like back along when this review first came out, he was quite literally the ONLY reviewer saying this shit - because he was the only reviewer putting a case with no intake fans installed, up against cases like the 570X with its triple intake fans ... just, what sort of skewed and biased methodology is that? and he's still doing it. His logic, I guess is - 'oh but its how they come stock' - uh ... that logic just doesn't fly? unless the PC Builder in question is adversely stupid, even a beginner rarely makes that mistake, even beginners purchase enough fans for them to fully occupy the front intake.
But hey, pretty sure the reason why Gamers Nexus is getting less an less review samples from case manufacturers is due to this, its in no way a fair way to compare cases and gauge the cases Airflow. It's a shame, since he can be a pretty cool dude ... just, again a shame that he's such an condescending asshole at times, especially when using such a borked and heavily skewed methodology.
End of reply to month old statement!
excellent job as always love the wooden background most people use white, but I love natural earth colors and tones puts the review item in a different perspective excellent job once again
Thanks Steve from the past
Great video as always, Steve! Would like to see a review of the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass Edition from you guys! I've been wanting to buy it for a long time and you always seem to get the most detailed pros and cons in your reviews. Have a nice day, sir!
Nice review. Thanks guys.
I bought this case and im running with 280mm aio in the FRONT with pull config, and have the original casefans as they are, and i have NOOOO problem with temps at all...
the puck is awesome imo, i can now hang my headphones there instead of just leaving it on the table which makes my setup look better and cleaner :3
Putting an AIC in front of the GPU was mentioned. What does AIC stand for? Air Induction Cooling?
Sean Erlenbeck Add-in Card, like a PCIe SSD.
Ah! Thank You
I can appreciate your attempt at trying to apply some science to your reasoning, but I have to say I think your assessment of this case and it's design are way off. For starters, the "VR" aspects of this case are actually quite compelling, and I believe you missed the point that many users will not. The HDMI pass through provides easy HDMI port accessibility for a device that will constantly be removed from the machine when not in use. You completely missed that one. And the puck is ingenious. Very simple, and nobody came up with that idea prior to their implementation. You didn't even mention that the puck splits into two pieces, which is really great for wrapping up long cables, especially VR, and even wired headsets. It's not the greatest thing ever, but it stands out (I know you split it physically, but you didn't mention it). I think you lacked a bit of foresight and decided to go straight for a condescending stance on NZXT's excitement over their idea. Kinda felt like a hipster move, just my opinion.
And as far as air cooling, I don't think you understand the physics of airflow very well. The space the front panel provides at the top and bottom is plenty to draw air no matter where the fans are placed on the front. The point is, you have to place fans there in order to assess how they will do. I bet if you did a simple smoke test with fans installed up front, your opinion on this design would probably change a bit. I think most will agree that putting fans in the front of any case will make the biggest difference to overall case cooling. I think your belief that it will not have impact on the GPU is just wrong. The proof is in the amount of users that aren't having cooling problems with this case. I don't know about you, but I don't know many people that are having cooling issues with this case- and there are a ton running it with a huge variety of implementations.
Seriously!
"It has to pull the air from WAY UP HERE." Shows a HUGE misunderstanding of how airflow works.
Agreed all the way man!
Yes, for me, having the HDMI and 2 USB 3.0 slots on the front mean I can keep my headset plugged in all the time instead of having to go around the back and plug and unplug etc. Wish more cases would follow suit.
I bought this case over the Phanteks P400 just because the HDMI pass through and that puck. Sometimes it's all about the little details.
You wouldn't even need the pass through if you put a Gigabyte gpu in. Some of there gpu's have three hdmi inputs with one on the inside.
Damn, literally did all the don't do's in a s340.
Tekuila Gaming Yep me too. I have a H115i cooling my 6700k in the front and it does just fine. I don't understand why he says there's "no intake" because that's what the front fans are for...? xD
Josh McCormack I think he just means its hard for the fans to get air.
How dare you forsake Dr Pepper?
I have this case in white. i purchased two intake fans and my temps are DOWN considerably. I am all air cooling though. Its beautiful and convenient.I personally love it for its price. I only wish they offered it in white and purple like the regular s340
Mine is nice and quiet.
I know this review is old but I must say this is one of my favorite cases of all time.
Great review guys, I like that you don't sugar coat it.
Thanks for the video I was all stoked to get this case for my future proof build but since, in the next couple years, I want to add a 2 gpu SLI setup, this case would be terrible for heat management. Thank you for helping me make the right choice!!
wanted to buy this case. changed my mind. thank you gamer's nexus. thank you. :)
I like that you provide constructive criticism - such as how to improve the cooling
BTW guys a Noctua D15 will fit. You just need to lower the 140mm fans a little bit. It keeps my 5820K 4.4GHZ 1.25V V Core at 75C when 100% utilization.
Im pretty sure the only reason they didn't put the fans in the front cause they did basic research and saw that most people building pcs are using 240-280 radiators so they left the front open for them to put it there. If you would simply just put fans in the front you will see a huge difference and finally the puck can be used for more things then just a vr headset such as headphones or controllers. This is clearly a biased review.
Honestly that's where my mind went. Don't supply fans, let the user choose their own cooling solution. I mean, two 120mm fans are not expensive. And if you wanted to get an AIO, you're set out of the gate, not having to faff on removing the fans it came with/
So reviewing this as it is out of the box, which no enthusiast or even passing gamer would actually do, feels REALLY disingenuous.
How is the bottom fan blowing air into the PSU basement? It would be blowing directly across the GPU(s).
I had the same thought. And even if it was, you could just block the opening into the PSU area no?
What he meant is that if they positioned a fan there it would go into the psu shroud. Even still a large amount of the air pulled from the "GPU" intake fan gets pulled into the psu shroud. Now you can cover it, but since it's so far away from the bottom and the top, the amount of air it pulls via it's position, is very little.
Damn Steveo, lovely discussion about the cooling performance on this case! :D
This review explains why my RTX 2080 Super hits 80C with AAA games, I definitely need a new case.
wait really?
@@Yprtm19 it does, yes. I’ve seen it as high as 84
@@DehlenaOmen after watching thi, i need to swap the case, since my rtx 2070super is always in bad temp lmao
what case did you get? I know it's been a year but I just now decided to look into why my gpu is hitting 85 degrees in games lmao
@@DiceRollx I got the Fractal Design Meshify 2. It's great!
I never realized how little air passed through the middle mounted intake fan until i took the front cover off and looked at the dust filter. My thermals were lower then the videos, but i am running 4 fans and using a AIO liquid cooled cpu.
Thx bro I finally got my case :D
"might have missed it, but it's stuck to the front of the case now"
LOL
The puck really is one of the cooler perks of the case haha. Its holding my astro A50s right now !
What a great review very informative. I really like this case and planning to buy this soon. But the only thing that concerns me is the air flow. Maybe i would look for another tempered glass case. Thanks man!
I specifically bought this case for the HDMI passthrough and puck
Once again, a great review
Just put 2 fans in the front. Geez.
Schlo Mo that would be pointless, when it's practically closed off.
its open. The bottom and top of the front panel are open.
Chris Ali You call an entirely open top and bottom closed off? I get great thermals in my S340 and compared to other cases like the Coolermaster H500P it's like the front is wide open
I'm going to be honest i never watched GN reviews because of your hair... always flipping it and such... but ive gotten over it and like the content. one question though about this review as i havent read the whole review just the video. did you test it with an intake in the middle? im considering this case or the old one and from what i hear its the exact same intake as before. fyi only reason im considering this instead of the regular is the extra usb lol. thanks keep up good work!
First time in ages I actually disliked a video because of bad or outright wrong findings + too much bias.
great review, but it would have been fair to replace Nzxt fans with same fans user in the Corsair case since those run faster than Nzxt ones
good point on hardware consideration.
Oh the VR jabs killed me. That was awesome, they have to learn eventually.
Did you guys test temps with additional fan sin the front? I have this case with 2 140mm fans and a 280 aio in the front and they are by no means starved of air. I can feel plenty of air coming though the rad.
I have a modified version of the S340 Elite :)
16 months later... pretty good selling case. You are a wealth of information Mr. Nexus, but the review on this one went right through your front intake...
That's what I need for case reviews! And that tower cooler is sexy AF!!!
.it supports 2 140 and intake comes from bottom and up from the front panel..I tested so many times it works. I have a rad in front with 3 fans and never had temps reaching 80
I've noticed that it doesn't have any vibration dampening for the HDDs, resulting in quite noisy HHDs,they start resonating with the case.
well now in 2018 I'm looking at this case and appreciate the VR support touches
very informative review.
He tested it with no front intake? WTF?
I'm a year late but. The case is more suited for negative pressure, aka more fans pulling air out, adding intake fans actually worsens the temperatures or doesn't change anything usually
@@rotsec On the NZXT S340 Elite? I am not wrong no, there is several videos about it you can look them up, also I see you are a year late to the reply as well lmao
In addition to a front panel like the define s, it needs to be able to accept a front mounted 360 rad and an additional fan mount up top.
I just built a rig in a Fractal Design Define C, I'd highly recommend checking it out and maybe reviewing it. Similar setup, airflow is great, love it. I'd say it trades size/tempered glass for compactness/noise dampening.
On point...my h100i gtx was getting barely any intake and my temps were mid 40s on idle in an S340. Switched to an Enthoo Pro M and temps are 31-36 C idle
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass will be released on Dec. 16, 2016 @ $99.99 on Newegg.
Very nice cable management and no problem with cooling at all.
Maybe Gamers Nexus will consider doing a review in the near future.
love the case its classy and slick. Got my family photos on it in magnetic frames and the puck is handy for headphones. dunno why they didn't allow two fans in the top though, I'm thinking using two aio 120mm water coolers for the GPU and CPU on the front.
Amazing review
I like the puck -- because it would be cool to wrap the cord of my digital radiograph sensor around it -- keeping the cord well-organized. I can also use the metal front to stick my intraoral cameral on it as well.
Case is perfect!
I'm going to get this case and when I'm gaming pretty hard and all that I'll probably take the front cover off so my fans get good airflow. But I'll put it back on for pictures and when I show friends. The "hockey puck" with probably end up getting used for my headphones
Just got this case for couple of weeks, running crossfire nitro+ RX 580. An 100% gaming load, top GPU runs 62C and bottom GPU runs at 57C, CPU runs at 40C and case temp are 44C. The case running with full speed 2x Noctua 140mm PWM fans for intake and stock 2x 120mm fans.
This is one good looking case. I got the white one :)
I am definitely going to run dual water cooled GPU's with radiator on the front. Haven't decided push the hot air out the front or pull it inside the case.
So did you just assume a front intake wouldn't work or did you test it? Because there's a lot of room for airflow.
the puck isnt the only thing that makes it VR ready its also the hdmi pass thru
I have the non elite version and my 1060 does not go above 66C while at 100% load. Also my 8600K is overclocked and it does not go above 50-55 while gaming. I see no thermal issues at all even with ambient temp at 25-30C during the summer. Using two fans for exhaust and two on the front for intake.
I want to get this case. Thinking to Use 2 noctua 120mm high airflow as exhaust and a 240mm aio rad as intake (CM MasterLiquidPro 280). I live in South Africa and gets hot in summer 30+°C. Do you think this will be a good cool system?
Nice review but I disagree with the last part. I've had this case for a month now and the front panel does not need the lateral ventilation. I believe that this is because the tempered glass has about 1-2mm distance from the case. The case is not completely sealed with the tempered glass mounted.
I've got a H80i intaking on this case, with an overclocked i7 6700k 4.65ghz and temps are 51ºc - 58ºc (min core/max core). The radiator's fan is pushing air against the GPU area and it's all the air the GPU needs (r9 280X stock fan speed and max 68ºc on load).
And this is the case where I'm actually using the "hot" air from the radiator to cool the GPU area. If I did not have a watercooler a regular fan would do even better.
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Nice. I'm planning to get this case for a fully air-cooled build
Which one is better right now? The S340 elite or the H510i ?
Hey NZXT, I think you still have a ways to go before Steve falls for that puck. A factory tour might do the trick...
The Puck is so awesome I keep in a drawer!
For me, cooling IS the first consideration in a case. :)
The puck looks to be the perfect place to hang headphones.
I have the NZXT razor s340 and an Rx480 sapphire nitro, daaaaaamn it gets hot AF up to 80ºC on stock boost clocks, a 240 rad on the front with amd fx 8320e @4.6 ghz and 2 corsair sp120 HP as exhaust on back and top, i had to remove the side window to get some good temps, i am hoping to make some kind of mesh with it.
Two and a half years later, we are literally drowning in glass side panels. Yes, literally. I have mere minutes of oxygen remaining, and my final thoughts will be of the crushing guilt every time I saw a week's dust sitting atop my video card's backplate, and my paralyzing fear of touching the side panel with anything other than an ammonia-soaked rag.
16:04 that look at the... PUCK :D
that puck is great for holding my xbox controller :D
Ashish Parmar Yeah. Would be good for headphones too. Or eventually a VR headset once a Chinese company reverse engineers one and sells it for $100.
Ashish Parmar The battle rap guy
I have 120mm fan exhausting the back, a 140mm fan exhausting on top and a x62 kracken with two nzxt aer 140mm fans in a pull config and my gpu and CPU run cool under load. 1070 and i7 7700k... you needed to actually mount fans on the front as it does actually pull air in.
nice review however I don't like this 'form over function' trend from all manufacturers
Is there anything stopping me from drilling holes in the side of the front panel? Because if not, that seems like a really easy solution that makes this case better than Corsairs in every way.
just put 2 fan in the front. I have this case and everything is cool.
there's a hole in the bottom of the front panel. Did you not know that? I'm sure a lot of people have this case and they're getting air just fine.
Welllll, I bought the Elite and I will just have to take a $100 chance on it. Thanks for the fantastic review, as usual. I picked it because I wanted white and a glass panel. I hope I dont have any issues.
rage5606 just mount two 140mm fans on the front and you'll be ok. I have an aio with two 140's in the pull config, 120 exhausting the back and a 140 exhausting the top. runs so damn cool lol
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I had to install the fans in a push configuration because the radiator is so tall that it interfears with the USB connections at the top. I am still amazed that I fit an EVGA Z270 with 16 Gigs of ram, 240 mm Corsair AIO radiator in the front, and an EVGA Hybrid 1080 video card with AIO Radiator too. I did fit a snorkel exhaust in the top as well and it is all a bit tight, but it screams! Played the latest Deus Ex game that had lots of complaints about frame rate and such at Ultra settings with no issues. There are some real issues with the EVGA Z270 board fitting perfectly. If you want access to both of the USB3 headers you will have to do some cutting because the forward header is blocked by the case. Otherwise, I am really loving it! Thanks for the advice.
so if you're not even doing a front mount radiator, its not worth it? i was planning on doing two 120mm front fans.
SpitfireRenegade same here
Use 2 140's instead. It's not exclusively an aio case
SpitfireRenegade So did u put 2 140 fans? Im thinking about putting the "Be quiet" fans
Saitama, A Hero who destroys Goku yes, i ended up going w two 140mm corsair high airflow quiet edition. so far so good.
SpitfireRenegade same here. My temps are fan
Please do a temperature benchmark between 460x, 400c and nzxt 340, 340 elite
I like it, especially the rubber magnet amalgam puck thingy, I wonder if they sell it on its own?
Late to the party, but this case doesn't cool any better with no front panel, at least with a Kraken X62. I doubt the slots down the side of the front panel would change anything. Temps didn't change in any significant way either with benchmarks or games with the front panel removed (this is with a 6700k and a 1080Ti).
so what temps are you getting on load
@@sousa2721 I was seeing high 70s with all fans on high. I moved everything over to a Hyte Revolt 3 with just the 2 140s exhausting on top of the 280 rad and it stays in the mid 70s.
@@fokker1138 dayum i was thinking to change to a s340 elite i can get one used here for 50€ but i see it would make no difference besides the looks.
@@sousa2721 lol I got one used for 25€ which was a steal. Inside the Case is a Rtx 3060 and an AMD ryzen 5 3600 and temps are ok
I see two things wrong with this review. 1st_ There is no bottom front fan mount. 2nd_ There is a lower air intake at the front panel and not just at the top. I think having a 280mm radiator mounted at the front using intake air should work just fine with two 140mm exhaust fans mounted at the back and top.
Your cat stole the show.