Water Softener vs Salt Free Water Conditioner. What is the difference?
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Even now, many companies are misleading by telling you there is such a thing as a Salt Free Water Softener. Mark Timmons - The Water Doctor - compares the two and sets the record straight.
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I would have liked to see a comparison of sodium content percentages in each beeker. I agree with your premise. It's a lot of marketing semantics to put it mildly. Your video gives something to think about and question when being sold one system over another. Thank you for the video! Awesome👍🏾
Good video guys. I am not well-versed in these matters and am glad I came across this video. I will not let the companies lie to me.
This man is balling and shot calling!! Such solid, clearly stated facts!!
Wow best video out there in regards to these!!
Very helpful, Sir! Thank you for the informative video.
Why did the last one change the water to a yellow tone?
A little less biased explanation would be a salt water softener works by removing the calcium and magnesium from the water, a salt free water conditioner separates the calcium from the magnesium so it can not form or at least reduces the formation of hard water. Water conditioners also remove chlorine and chloramine from water which are harmful for your plumbing and skin. A good water conditioner also provides drinking water to all fixtures.
Mark is right there are hack plumbers out there claiming to have salt free water softeners and that is wrong, but there are certain benefits of a water conditioner that salt systems don't offer.
It's really personal preference as long as you have the facts. Also some counties don't allow salt softeners because of the discharge water.
Thanks for the video Mark
A good water conditioner will run $2000+. A water softener with a carbon tank will do the same and cost less than half.
@@stacyjones2893 GBJR and Stacy Jones, You are both wrong. 1) Salt Free water conditioner does not separate the calcium and magnesium! 2) Salt Free water conditioners "do not" remove chlorine and or chloramine! 3) Cheap "garbage" salt water softeners are typically $800.00 to @1200.00 Better quality more effective units can run around $2K to $4K. Then you have the monthly cost of maintenance of salt and regeneration water and pray you don't forget to buy and add salt or it malfunctions as you will surely have hard water and potential for scaling. And don't overlook that a salt water softener "won't" remove scale!!!
@@lisab3396 Please get your facts straight before correcting others... water softeners DO in fact remove scale!
@@stacyjones2893 By all means, please provide evidence of that and or a scientific journal or website for I and others to read up on!
@@lisab3396 - It’s called ion exchange; the salt softener exchanges mineral ions in the water, for salt.
Thank you for the great information.
2:45 Enough said, thx for the info.
It definitely helps to tell the truth. Nothing bad will ever happen for telling the truth. It may be uncomfortable, but we will be and are safe. Much Love everyone
Thank you for making this video
Well this is what I noticed using the scaleblaster brand, my soap in the shower is more efficient and my skin doesn't feel dry, also my shower head doesn't develope as much calcium as before.
I purchased a water descaler. It doesn't remove the minerals but changes their ability to stick to my plumbing and appliances. No salt or large tanks taking up room in the house. Best of all, no slippery feeling water.
"Prevents the scale from happening" That's all I needed to know. Salt free system it is.
The lesson for dummies- (corporate law for dummies). He said: "May prevent". If he sad will not prevent - corporations that make "salt-free" softeners would sue him for making that statement. He would have to prove that "salt-free" softeners do not prevent scale from happening. He is a smart guy, unlike those who skipped chemistry classes at high school and believe in salt-free softeners.
Ok one thing that confuses me though is I definitely have hard water but no problem with getting suds?
He did neglect to mention the byproduct of a water softener is the harm it does to the environment. I grew up in a home where a water softener was used. When family would visit they always commented on the slippery feeling.
Great info if your main concern is saving $2 a year on soap. My concern is adding sodium to my drinking water. I don't like that these companies call their units "softeners" (I was looking at a KIND unit, and they call them softeners, when they are not) I'd like to see an honest full comparison considering sodium, soap use, ease of use, maintenance, etc. Everyone seems to have an angle, while trying to come off as impartial.
The soap comparison was good but you need a before and after water analysis.we don't get these to lather up we get them to save our pipes and fixtures.
Why do you care your pipes more than skin body and health
@@joliearanda6481 there’s nothing wrong with having ions and minerals on the skin🙄
@@0morphine0 yes there is it is damaging you dumbass and it dries you out
@@0morphine0 hard water makes a film on the skin & blocks the pores
Great video
What he doesn't mention is that softened water may make great suds but it's no good to drink. If you use a water softener, then you need a reverse osmosis system (now you can get drinkable water at one place in your house that has no minerals and tastes lousy) or use bottled water. For me, I went with no-salt conditioning and a whole house filter. Now I have good tasting water from every tap, no scale, no chemicals (like chlorine) and I feel clean when I get out of the shower. Also, the dry, scaly spots I was getting on my calves went away within a week.
What conditioner did you end up getting?
@@ericwood8745 Earthsmarte. It's been 3 years now and very happy with it
You’re still drinking calcium and magnesium!!! Your conditioner doesn’t take the minerals out of the water!!! What an amateur!!
@@carsonbalka3367 Yes, but calcium and magnesium are good for you (ever heard of alkaline water? ) as opposed to what's in softened water. Reverse osmosis water isn't good for you in the long run either, especially if you drink a lot of it. What's your solution?
@@carsonbalka3367that means you don’t have to take calcium and magnesium supplements. That is good.
Thank you!!!
Make a video about what's important, which one is healthy to drink right from the faucet? Which one prevents Naegleria Fowler from entering our bodies?
I thought this gonna explain how a water conditioner works.
In North Texas along the Red River most of the water is super salty. Lake Texoma can self sustain the ocean dwelling striped bass because it’s so salty. These same lakes provide the drinking water for many communities. Mine is one of them . The water at the tap in our neighborhood measures 800 on a TDS meter with sodium representing the greatest solute. Nevertheless, the water tests show a hardness of around 15 gpm. In this situation what is best? Adding a water softener with a pre-filter for sediment and a pre-filter carbon filter after the sediment filter actually raises the TDS to over 1100! Super salty tasting too. Any recommendations?
Yes, I would recommend a Reverse Osmosis System for drinking water. An RO will lower your TDS by 90 to 95 percent and it will also remove the salt giving you great tasting water. You can get one fairly cheap and they are worth the investment imo: www.uswatersystems.com/drinking-water/reverse-osmosis-systems/under-sink-reverse-osmosis
Why do the two beakers that were “treated” have a yellow tint to the water? The city or control water is or seems clearer.
Because he has collected the samples from alternate sources and not the same location. With that in mind, his demonstration in itself is unreliable!
U.S. Water Quality Association years ago did an extensive so called research comparison of salt water softener vs no salt water conditioners. I say so called research because they took lake water instead of true ground hard water. Would have been very interesting if it was a true hard water research!!
@@lisab3396 all from the same city water. One with no softner. One with a salt based. One with a salt free version
Best video ever ever with proof
Thanks a lot for sharing this valuable info.
Will a conditioner help with salty water from my well. For my greenhouse flowers. Some say they will my sodium is 700ppm. Thanks
I've never heard of someone having sodium in their well water. I think the best option for flowers would be reverse osmosis or distilled water. Don't use softened water for indoor plants.
You should definitely NOT use the softened water to feed your flowers!
@@GGs319 My mom has high salt her drilled well. It's common if you live on the highway because of the road salt and only a RO will take it out.
Could you have an RO after the conditioner for the same end product of softener with RO?
Yes, RO will make true soft water but a whole house RO system is a pretty expensive investment. It will however also give you the benefit of purified drinking water at every tap in your home.
I really just need scale not to form in my tankless, lather is a marketing gimmick anyway. Soap doesn't lather, lathering agents lather. I would also like to keep surface tension reducing agents out of my water, I hear it can give the water a slight yellow tint.
I make my own soap and we have lather from the soap. Just not as much as with modern "soaps"(detergents) and I have hard water
Yeah, he was bashing marketing tactics and then used a very biased and unrealistic demonstration to prove his point. So he bashes marketing gimmicks and then uses one in the same video to prove his point. I agree with his points in general, but the use of that misleading demo made him lose all credibility in my mind
will a water scale inhibitor/conditioner help with washing cars to prevent hard water spots forming?
No. It will reduce it slightly but to completely get rid of hard water spotting you need a water softener.
Most auto soaps now work well with hard water. However, spotting may be an issue particularly if you wash the vehicles outside on a windy and or hot sunny day, Be sure to wash and towel/shammi dry afterwards!
There is such a device for testing water quality after conditioning treatment?
For hardness? Yes: www.uswatersystems.com/consumer-hardness-test-kit-for-water-treatment-23052.html
For other quality:
www.uswatersystems.com/nsearch?q=water+test
If you want a thorough test for ever contaminant, I would suggest sending a sample into a lab.
@@uswatersystems I see you are very selective on just whom you reply to! Regardless of the fact that you answered the question correctly.
Only if I want slimy water that is not drinkable due to the salt taste would I chose a softener.
I have a question. Does this have to be an either or thing? Or is it beneficial to have both?
it 2019, any new salt free technology update?
Hi there. This is the technology that we use: www.uswatersystems.com/us-water-limeblaster-salt-free-water-conditioner-12-gpm.html
Thanks :)
@@itz_vulego._.7941 Stay away from phosphates/siliphos products.
What is that ?
What type of soap should I use to test my system
the soap he is using is pure soap. What I mean by that is there is no chemical water softener in it whereas products like dawn dish soap have chemical softeners in them. (I think) the results would be similar but less dramatic with dish soap.
Thank you! I fixed my water softener with new resin and installed a 6 stage Reverse Osmosis. AMAZING! Yes, I agree that SALT is needed!!!
Yup, he's not being very honest!
xuscbs where did he go dishonest? To say that , tell me you have no real understanding the processes involved! Cheers from NJ
im still debating with salt base (no drinking) or salt free (leave the hardness)
Isn’t the salt water run off bad for ground water? We can’t drink it right? With a water softener you need a reverse osmosis under the sink so you can drink it right?
Soft water is safe to drink. Depending on how hard your water is, softening the water can add about 20 to 30 milligrams of sodium to a glass of water. In comparison this is still much lower sodium than a glass of milk, diet soda or orange juice. As far as the environmental impact, you are correct, the sodium in the waste water can have a negative affect on the environment. This is one case where a salt-free water conditioner definitely has an advantage over a water softener.
@@japaneserequired6314 If you prefer a water conditioner over a softener because they are "a pain in the ass", then by all means, go with one.
Ever make coffee with soft water? It leaves your lips salty, that can't be good right? If you have high blood pressure and drink soft water out of your fridge door w/ice, what is that doing to your body?
Tway Garr... You are very correct in your observations and points!
I disagree. I use a salt based water softener, I do not like the fact that I have to use salt that gets flushed into the drain, but leaving that aside, the concern over the salt content at the faucet is exaggerated. I have installed a reverse osmosis water filtering system under the sink in the kitchen, that further reduces as I understand sodium content and many other minerals, data available in the public domain shows 98% efficiency of such filtering system.
How much sodium you take in when you consume the filtered (reverse osmosis) water in this setup ? Absolutely negligible, with this type of setup, you have to be more worried about the lapse in will, that results in eating a cracker a day, or drinking some tomato juice, or eating a slice of bread, they all have salt. This is where I focus, buying groceries with low salt content, buying raw meat, vegetables, etc, instead of processed foods, so I can have a say in how much sodium enters my body, and this focus keeps me healthy.
How much energy does a water softener use? Is it a lot?
not a whole lot. About as much as a wall clock.
Do the bad ones stop the stains?
A Water Conditioner won't remove hard water stains, only a water softener.
RO, EDI, EUREX, .... the best of all, Miky
Have the salt-free systems improved in the past 4 years?
It is May 2022 and I say no they have not. I am 2 years in with an Aquasana. Huge mistake. June 2023 I get a HE water softener installed by Culligan. I cannot wait. I had scale build up, reduced pressure, unclean unclear dishes out of the dishwasher, and both of us and the dog have been coughing, choking and gagging, sometimes vomiting for the duration. So unhappy. They can shove those systems. Hunks of junk!
I had a house once that had hard water. It turn my shower glass white and would leave spots on the dishes. I care about that, that's why I would do the salt system.
Which one is safer to drink from the tap. Water from the softener or the conditioned one?
I dont think Tap water is good to drink. I prefer a Reverse Osmosis.
Conditioned (chemicals removed through multi-stage filtration) is better to drink than just softened water.
Thank you for the clarification. Do you sell water softener please. I reside here in Qatar and I urgently need water softener, please not water conditioner. Thank you.
You should get a reverse osmosis system instead.
@@MyVlogTherapy thanks. Water softener is what I need right now.
I’m in the water treatment business as a tech and product evaluations. You can find things to poke at but he’s a honest man speaking the truth about marketing concept. I know for a fact that in most hard water applications,conditioners prevent scale. They can bring harsh hard water conditions back to normal conditions. Most complaints come from the dishwasher spots. But creating micro-crystals, aragonite, carbonic acid or injecting citric acid is not softening water. Period. Don’t tell people it is.
Does the conditioner prevent scale buildup on appliances and shower walls?
@@xuscbs In many places it does. It can and will remove existing scale that a salt water softener cannot. However........ Not all no salt water conditioners are equal and that goes with the sellers of these products. In short, there are scam artists in the salt and no salty business. Do your research before buying!!!!!
Salt Free systems don't remove minerals like calcium and magnesium. They crystalize them so they don't stick to pipes and other surfaces. The minerals will always be in the water but won't create hard scale. It might produce soft scale that can be wiped up. It all depends on what you want. Some people have to go with no salt or potassium options because of preference or regulations. If you want to remove minerals and truly make your water soft, then you are going to have to live with salt, potassium, or a filter.
And sodium!
Its hard water
Minerals are good for the body we use reverse osmosis filters that strips all the minerals out so we have to take minerals supplements separately. It’s good to know salt free one doesn’t remove the minerals .
How do you keep from killing your grass plants and trees with the water softeners ?
Most water softeners come with a bypass on the valve. Just turn it off when you water your lawn.
@@uswatersystems good idea, lol I didn’t think of that. 😳 Guess I can plug mine back in..
So culligan supposedly came out with a salt free softener... is it a joke too?
So does a conditioner do what consumers want them to do? Remove scale? I don't think people care much about the water being soft so much as they care about clogged shower heads and aerators.
We care about our skin and,body
It does not. Those minerals remain and are not exchanged as a softener otherwise does to remove them. As to the extent of how effective conditioners are, at the process of preventing scaling, that's debatable and dependent upon the system being utilized. Beyond concerns of scaling are deposits within plumbing, including the washing machine and dish washer, and hot water heater. There's also the issue of clothes not being properly cleaned, even if you've a marginal benefit of lessening scale by altering the structure of some minerals within the water through a conditioner. Again, a conditioner doesn't remove, but instead alters the structure of the minerals. The housing filters that typically come with such systems do not remove them, either.
You told what no-salt doesn't do (i.e.: soften), but not what it Does do, or what you sell them for...
The video he made wasn't about discussing what salt-free conditioners do, it was about the false claims that salt-free conditioners are salt-free "softeners." I thought he made that abundantly clear in the video? If you want to learn about what salt-free conditioners do, they have several videos on the units they sell.
since at least 1948
So are you saying salt base water is the way to go than the no salt softener?
He literally... JUST showed you... there is no such thing as a no salt softener.
Salt based water softeners put very little salt into the water, the salt is used to regenerate the Resin Bed that does the actual removal of minerals from the water, the water used in house does not go through the salt.
@@alvarofernandez2830 so if the water used in the house doesn't go through the salt, then why do you need s reverse osmosis for drinking water?
bling0023 we have BOTH, make ice, & have a faucet on sink, we make coffee, or tea, & COOK with the RO water, if you want to see something,,make a cup of TEA, WITH, & WITHOUT, put them side by side & tell me which one you rather DRINK,,,,, Cheers from NJ
why the middle one is the best, it seems the muddiest and lots of bubbles
ah the drop is soup so more bubbles the better
Salt is bad for your health if you have high blood pressure. Salt free water softeners, are not sold as water softeners, they are sold as conditioners. Such as ScaleBlaster and have been around for decades. Water softeners that use salt that comes in heavy bags and they also harm the environment, dumping salt water into the sewer lines and into the ground.
how do soap suds clean anything???
Soaps can do two things. 1) Help clean what you are cleaning. and 2) Help keep dirt in suspension in the water. And of course, why you have a clean fresh water rinse cycle on a washing machine to assure dirty water is flushed out thus giving you nice clean clothes!
Still cant beat a good old fashion in ion exchange salt based softner.
And clearly you haven't yet got your head out of the sand with that comment. We are in 2020 now not 1920.
@@lisab3396 Clearly its your head in the sand. its 2021 and hard water still has not changed hence "water softener"
He said "rain contains no minerals" 0:44 😄 I don't think that's entirely true lol
That cause hardness...rain has salt
Have a salt system installed and want it out because of the salty drinking water. To have this system, I would have to go back to buying bottled water and let's face, those are not all what they say they are.
You may want to check your settings. Also, you may consider adding a Reverse Osmosis...nobody should drink tap water anymore!
Stacy Jones it was a reverse osmosis system by culligan, thankfully it has been removed.
Im confused... a RO doesn't produce salty water. There is no salt involved.
The salt water shouldn't be going to your tap. It filters the resin tank then dumps into your waste water line.
This guy is the Archetype of the American Salesman. I don't even care what he's selling. This was a fantastic presentation.
Take a drink of all three and tell us which tastes best
Softeners leave a film on your skin and makes you feel slimy. Be there done that. I now have a conditioner in my current home and have for 19 years and my pipes clean and have no deposits anywhere. Not trashing softeners there just not for me.
We'll just take your word for it that the beakers are filled with whatever you read off of your teleprompter mr. salt water softener salesman. Sound like a very unbiased explanation. But thank you for making the video. :)
Feel free to try the experiment yourself if you are skeptical. Also, we sell both Water Softeners as well as Salt Free Water Conditioners, so there is no bias what so ever in this video. Just wanted to make the point that there is no such thing as a salt free water softener. If you hear the term, you know you are being mislead. Thanks for watching.
I work for a water treatment company in Florida. We also carry both softeners and salt free conditioners that we refer to as Scale Reduction Tanks. This is the perfect video to simply explain the difference. Feel free to contact the test your self if you are confused.
I have a traditional soft water system and I hate it. I am switching to a salt free conditioner instead. Have not seen any evidence in my personal experience that soft water vs. conditioned or tap water produces any difference in suds. I am very skeptical of the soap demonstration in this video.
But I need low sodium due to a diet.. and water softeners that use salt are a no go for me :/
You can substitute the salt with Potassium
but it's much more expensive.
That's relative. So you spend $30 salt vs. $150 potassium a year. For my health, an $8 a month difference seems ok.
Randy S. Put in a reverse osmosis system
Randy S. Let me tell you about low sodium,,or no salt in diet, my wife was told to NOT USE SALT, AS PER Md, well we have a water softener, and some years my wife collapsed at home ,,,, called 911, admitted to hospital, her sodium level was 110, super LOW, next step would be unconsous , and DEATH, so they had to load her up with sodium, normal is 140 , or so, so THERE IS YOUR SALT FROM A SOFTNER, IT IS A MYTH, & BS, so daily she takes a spoonful, of salt in a 12 oz glass of water., she has been NORMAL,YEARS NOW.,,,,,, Cheers from NJ
Putting salty brine in the water table is not a good idea long term. Cities are asking people to stop because it's becoming expensive to address this at the treatment facilities.
Citric Acid certainly doesn't remove anything but it is addressing the cosmetic issues associated with hard water.
I'm assuming you're making this video because you sell water softeners? If I'm wrong, then forgive me.
Salt brine was banned by California and other States years ago! Go and find out what options California has adopted!
Just wanted to re-post this for the reference!
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Isn’t the salt water run off bad for ground water? We can’t drink it right? With a water softener you need a reverse osmosis under the sink so you can drink it right?
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Soft water is safe to drink. Depending on how hard your water is, softening the water can add about 20 to 30 milligrams of sodium to a glass of water. In comparison this is still much lower sodium than a glass of milk, diet soda or orange juice. As far as the environmental impact, you are correct, the sodium in the waste water can have a negative affect on the environment. This is one case where a salt-free water conditioner definitely has an advantage over a water softener.
Why do I care if the water is soft, hard, tough, macho, weak, brave, cowardly, or whatever? I couldn't care less what adjective you label it with. Personally, all I want is water that's not going to ruin my appliances and form scale while it's still safe to drink and use. If there's a way to do that while keeping the Ca and Mg in the water, that's more than fine! If all you're concerned about is suds, then don't worry, the detergent we buy today has a softening agent in it. For me, it's a very secondary concern, my main concern is my pipes and appliances. I think you're worked up over nothing, and you're hung up on lingo and a technicality that we, consumers, couldn't care less about.
He can be very passionate about this subject XD. You are right, the main reason for either system is to protect your plumbing and both systems do that. The rest comes down to preference. Softened water does have benefits that a conditioner does not though, and it goes beyond suds. Softened water removes spots from your faucets, appliances and dishes. You also save money on detergents as soft water requires very little soap for laundry. Soft water also keeps laundry brighter and whiter. Conditioned water can not do any of this. These to me are the large benefits that Soft Water has over Conditioned water. It's good to know the difference as a consumer and know that a Salt-Free water Softener does not exist. But like you said, it all comes down to if these things matter to you or not.
Thanks for the response. I suppose calling it salt-free "softener" is technically incorrect by definition like the presenter said, so they made a mistake there for sure, but it's not worth getting "mad" about it as long as they're not really cheating and promoting a product that doesn't do the main job. Again, I bet that for most people, at least myself, the main concern is the appliances and plumbing, the other benefits you pointed out, while very desirable, are still secondary. What I suggest you do instead of lashing out at those people for using the incorrect terminology is to point out the pros and cons for each method, objectively and based on science. That would be more useful to the consumer and would help each one of us make a decision on which way to go. For example, for me, some of the pros of softening: it protects my appliances effectively. Cons: that slimy feeling in the shower that I can't stand and the concern about the salt in the water that I don't want. Also wasting water to clean the resin and the environmental effect of dumping salt. Some of the pros for conditioning: I still have the desirable Ca and Mg and don't have the undesirable salt. Cons: there's no clear measure for its effectiveness like # of grains in the case of softening, so I'm not completely sure it works effectively, also, I'd be concerned about water pressure because the filter is much smaller. Things like that would be more helpful. Thanks again! Your videos are very informative, nonetheless, and appreciated.
I am not being snarky, but try...try this experiment. Take a "clean" washed facecloth that you washed in your salt-less system, stick it in a bowl with 1 cup of soft or purified (not spring) water. Let it soak for 2 minutes and wring it out. Look at what that water left behind. You wear that in your clothes. Pour it in a bottle, give it a fair shake... where did those bubbles come from? Detergent, its a dried acid on your clothes and towels, sweat-activated, causes rashes and skin irritation. Just pointing it out. Good luck either way.
If both the water softener and the water conditioner solves the problem of descaling the pipes, who care about using less soap for more lather that has a monthly cost of putting salt into the tank?
Here's one difference. Salt free is not a softener
The difference is with not salt you don't have soft water
I didn't want to hear an industry rant, I wanted to know how water conditioners work.
Not sure what I just watched, the man had yellow water.
Sometime I pee and get yellow water..........
Wow, your bias is palpable. You basically confirm that water conditioners preform the main function of a water softner (eliminating scale build up). While some may love the idea of more suds / using less soap, that isn't the end all be all of why most people want a water softener. ((Plus the number one complaint of softeners is the feel on their skin which is caused by the salt)) So while I get you have beef with those companies that use the word "softener" in their name, you should have used this video to compare the two products fairly on their pros and cons as personally I'd opt for keeping the minerals in the water despite needing to use more soap as long as the scale build up is eliminated either way.
Did u actually listen ?
Bias is unfortunate. You can see the conditioned water is visibly yellow 🤣.
So we should drink the middle one that bubbles and foams up??? Sounds legit
There is a fix for that. If you want to drink it don't add soap to the water like we did in this video. It will greatly improve the taste and remove those pesky bubbles.
Hahahaha!!!
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"Salt free" water softeners are exchanged tanks were im from. Resin in tanks and then the company removes and exchanges them every 2 weeks
2:30 how come all these water softener expert videos show some unknown bottle of "soap". how do I know that soap you're using wasn't made to react with soft water only? redo this test with Dawn *FROM THE BOTTLE* and i'm sure each beaker of water will show bubbles.
Marketing companies that have problems with the truth? Ya don't say?
Of course you work por a water softener company " give us a call"
*Water Treatment Company. We sell all types of applications, including Salt Free Water Conditioners. We are just explaining the differences.
You could always ask your dentist for advice on which water system to get, but I prefer to ask people that specialize in a field. Just don't wait until they are in your house trying to get you to sign a contract before doing your homework, if they tell you something you don't know or are unsure of, tell them you will get back to them and do some more homework, always get 3+ quotes before buying and check references and reviews online. If you have a good experience with a product or company write a review online so others will know, too many people only complain and it doesn't usually help anyone.
Sadly my High Blood Pressure can't tolerate a salt based softner.
I had a salt based softner for 20 years then recently moved to a newer house without one.
My blood pressure is stable and much easier to control.
Many of these "Water Specialists" say the salt in the softner isn't the cause but the proof is in the blood pressure.
Salt free tech would be great if it actually removed the minerals and toxins.
Guess I'm doomed to have flat lifeless hair and grungy clothes.
But what about chlorine, fluoride, and other chemicals. Softeners do nothing for that.
Body language at 20 seconds - "it helps if we tell the truth..." and then proceeds to touch his face/mouth which indicates a lie or deception.
It could also mean that he had an itch perhaps? But, I am not a body language expert like yourself so please, would you mind explaining what was the deception?
ah, armchair psychology - never gets old!
Pelican tries to say that any system that addresses scale is a softener and a salt free system is the best of all 3...a softener, conditioner and a de scaler..
I however agree with you that it is not a softener and they are false advertising and lying to the consumer with their marketing ploy
Scott Porter Yes I have seen that series of commercials, I printed outALL THAT WEBSITE, they DO CLAIM SALT FREE WATER SOFTNER, which IS A LIE,, they MAY HAVE THE WORLDS BEST WATER CONDITIONER, BUT IS NO SOFTNER., IT IS PHICALLY IMPOSSIBLE . CHEERS from NJ
Salt free conditioners only prevent scale. If saving soap is an absolute must then get the salt system. This is an unfair representation of salt free conditioner
How is it unfair? This video wasn't to denigrate salt-free conditioners, it was to demonstrate that they do not soften water. If they thought they were junk, then why would they be selling them to customers that want them?
Who cares about the soap suds lol what is better and why
Couldn't you just add a little soda ash/washing soda/Sodium carbonate to get your laundry and dishwasher detergents to lather up more?
Borax. It will sequester the calcium ions and prevent them from tying up the soap molecules. It has its limits, though.
Any that is "free" is not good.
BTW, it ain't no beaker, it is a conical flask.
That is an Erlenmeyer flask.
Stopped @ 0:35 A traditional "salt" water softener should and does reduce/remove hardness minerals to produce "soft water". However, if the "salt" water softener is either not set up correctly and or not functioning correctly (of which happens all too often), the minerals may not be removed and (hard water) minerals are allowed to flow into the home or business!
@3:33 Your argument about "salt" soft water vs No Salt Softener is partially true. Yes the "so called" no salt softener "may" help prevent scale buildup and no it won't allow such high suds of soap. However, "most" soaps in today's world have their own water conditioners that allow better suds in hard water!!!!
Folks, maybe you want the benefits of a "salt" water softener. Then again you may not! Particularly so if you are on a low salt diet/consumption. When you bath and or shower, your body will naturally absorb salt!
As the water softener man says, there isn't such a thing as a "no salter water SOFTENER". But no salt water "CONDITIONERS" are an extremely effective way to control hard water issues such as scale and better soap suds, etc!
Keep in mind two very important points. 1) A no salter water "CONDITIONER" will always be working to prevent scale formation "and" remove existing scale thus keeping your plumbing and water heaters clear and working at optimal efficiency! While on the other hand >>> 2) A "salt" water softener "may if working correctly" prevent hard water scale formation. What it doesn't/cannot do is remove existing scale! You combine salt and scale in a hot water and you will surely have corrosion and a leaking tank failure.
At the end of the day, although Mr. US Water Systems is promoting his business prospects, I agree on the fact that there isn't a "no salt water softener" presently on the market and everyone should be extremely dubious of such marketers!!!!
Cheers
This is what a home owner who knows nothing about water system sounds like!! Nothing new, see your kind all the time!!
@@carsonbalka3367 "If you say so"!
Just another bad comercial video, what ppl do to try to fight the competition
What competition? We sell both Water Softeners and Salt free Conditioners. We are just explaining some of the differences.
US Water Systems well obviously you aren’t being honest to begin with, I see the yellowing on the last bottle, I have the comparison my self and while, the water softener is better (yes I sort of agree with you) the water conditioner isn’t that bad, (you really pushing for the softener, I will recommend to make it at least more credible) now if you sell both and are making this video sound like that, then is like me going to a Honda dealership to look for a a ford car, do you think they will talk wonderful things about ford? They may sell it to me but obviously if I ask any questions they will bash on ford and tell me a million things why Honda is better, (even so Honda is better) I still believe ford isn’t that bad. That’s you right there sounding just like another bad commercial.
@@melvincontreras4247 I think you may have missed the point of the video. It's that if someone says they are selling a "Salt Free Water Softener" (which many do), know that they are lying to you. There is no such thing. There are water softeners and then there are Water Conditioners. You can't get soft water without salt. Maybe you are okay with that but maybe you aren't. It was just an experiment to show you how to spot the difference. That's all.
I’m just starting my own research and I can tell this guy is trying to be intentionally biased towards softened water systems. I little bit of research will reveal that water conditioners don’t remove calcium but instead change the chemical structure of the water to allow it to bind less to fixtures that cause those hard water deposits. There’s benefits to both systems and also downsides to both systems. Be better... Don’t bash the other system just to protect your own. Also, why is the water conditioned water tinted to look dirty? Water softeners shouldnt change the color of the water assuming the water used in these “tests” came from the same water source.
We manufacture and sell both systems so we have no reason to be bias. We don't care what system you choose. Just explaining that there is no such thing as a salt free water softener. As far as the water color; that's actually not the water, the beaker just happened to have a yellow tint to it for some reason that was not intentional.
CNN?
It’s a problem with the labels and even this idiot is getting the labels wrong. A water softener and a water conditioner accomplish the same thing but in two different methods. Water conditioners do work but the appearance and behavior of the water is different than that of a water softener and that is why his little beaker demonstration seems to not make sense at first glance. He is exploiting your ignorance to sell you a water softener and bully the water conditioner companies and anyone else considering purchasing a water conditioner.
It's unfortunate that you claim to be giving unbiased information...but your expirament is pretty biased. Why don't you repeat that same expirament with "normal" soap. Like the same soap that 99.9% of regular people will buy at the store instead of using whatever "pure" soap you have in that little bottle. Your little expirament won't be nearly as dramatic... In general, I agree with the points you are making, but you are using a VERY biased and unrealistic demo (the same demo I've had demonstrated at my house by sales people trying to push a sale) that doesn't represent reality. You are guilty of using the same marketing tactics as you are bashing... Grrrrr
Another salesman