Best explanation so far. Just one note - the manual is referring to compression /expansion rather than compression / limiting. Other than that this is a very welcome detailed explanation that is helping me get my head around this very useful plugin. (I'm a fan of the "optical" sound and this is one of the best plugins I've purchased from PA I must say. )
An amazing explanation beyond just the plugin review filled with A grade lesson about technology, terminology and super useful info normally hidden deeply within mixing/mastering books. Thank you. Subscribing!
⭐️⭐️ Wow! What an incredibly capable device! I’m really impressed. I let my demo expire before I really learned much about it. Now that I know all this, I’m just going to buy it. I’ll sit with this video and walk through it one step at a time. That should solidify my understanding of its operation. 👍👍
Amazing explanation! best on YT so far. Technicals are very important in this case. Thank you for drawing this as it's way easier to visualize this it and understand. Great EQ but it's CPU hog. I hope they will optimize it. And only 100% size available (bug).
Great video as always Mike! It would be great if the plugin Gui gets "halved" when you activate channel link. I find that when working in link mode you should be able to hide the second channel in order to get a less convoluted , easier on the eye Tool. It has great possibilities but gee that looks so crowded an convoluted I got almost dizzy in the end :-)
I'm interested in this one , looks and sounds great, i just missed a $31 deal for it, although it will come back around , i got some other stuff Audiothing "speakers" and toontrack dance pop EZ keys expansion they work on my 3 set ups the Tomo Lisa will only work on my up to date mac , but it's still worth it, it'll come back around , July 4th explosion sale !! lol thanks for the good review.
Literally bought the Soma a couple of weeks ago, then 2 mastering engineer friends recommended LISA and now I have to buy this too because it is that good! It definitely never ends. 😂
All you need for EQ plugins are: 1) for tracks/mix bus: Q432 (Kush Audio's version, etc.) [subtractive-additive EQ] 2) for mastering : TOMO Audiolabs LISA [mastering EQ so analog so pro....better than Michelangelo Hendyamps EQ, AMEK 200/250 EQs, EQ1 and Curve Bender mastering EQs]
@@bakharandi I did check it out. And it's better than the ProQ3 at the moment, but I still have faith in Fabfilter and I will wait for the ProQ4 and then decide if I'm gonna switch over to Kirchhoff. Especially now since I got other stuff like the SplitEQ which even the Kirchhoff doesn't compare to (edit: + I know it's unimportant but I hate how the Kirchhoff looks, the Fabfilter is just so beautiful to took at xD)
@@joost3783 At the end of the day, it's what You are comfortable with, to get the results You are looking for. ProQ3 set the bar high and Kirchoff just raised the bar, yet, like Pro Tools, ProQ will always be around because it does what it does very well , , , As for Split EQ, I got very excited about that one as well, when I demoed it. Yet, I realized that Kirchhoff also has the ability to tame, excite, and shape the Transients very well . . . As every one of their 30 plus bands, in Dynamic mode, has the "Above" and "Below" sections, with additional control over threshold and ratio (Percentage), ect . . . So, I poked around and found out and learned how to get the same results, very quickly . . . Kirchhoff is really an All-around Desert Island Beast, like an advanced Swiss Army Knife of EQs . . . Yet, of course, if one can get all of the same results with a variety of other tools that vibe better with one's established workflow and aesthetic, than there is no real need to add it to your collection . . . I also find that it need not replace anything else in my collection . . . Even though I can get the Maag 40k harmonic series excitement by opening a midrange "Blue" Shelf in a node, I may still open a Maag EQ somewhere else, anyway . . . Even though it can duplicate all of the Pultec curves, I will still open a Pultec style EQ somewhere else, anyway . . . Even though I can pop in a 3.2k Neve Bell curve node, I will also open a Neve console emulation, somewhere else, anyway, ect. We are truly Blessed in this Era, to have such Amazing Professional Tools at our fingertips, without having to Mortgage our homes to acquire them . . . ! . . . 🙂 (-;
Thank you so much Mike. Pretty well described. I am trying it right now. One question: ¿Possible to use in synth buses? ¿ Other buses? or only in master chain?.
How to compare the 2 products since they are not really comparable ? This is a dynamic EQ (but one that can be passive) with multiple bands and the ability to adjust the compression on each band. The DS1-MK3 does not have the possibility to work on frequencies in such a precise way. It is a "finishing" tool in Mastering that requires real skills because this product is complex (best way is to Start with the MM1 and upgrade to the DS1-MK3). The 2 tools are of course complementary Sorry for my poor english :(
PA themselves describe LISA saying "This dynamic EQ was designed with mastering applications in mind" and yet you don't demonstrate it mastering. That is just brilliant, BRILLIANT work.
You really need a telescope or a microscope to be able to read the text on each of the bottons, terrible design, extremely confusing, however, great sound!
The UI is a nightmare. There's around 600 labels onscreen. I don't want to see all this crap. I'm not impressed by it. It's supposed to make people feel like it's expensive but I don't care. That design was a requirement for the hardware but it's not a requirement for the software. It's just there to please noobies who wanna feel like they have a fun toy. It would be much better if you could switch to a view that has rows and columns with simple big LED readouts for each of the frequencies and gain values that you can mouse up and down on. With this horrible UI you can't just glance at the plugin and read what the values are set to, which you could do in 1 second if it was readable. Instead you have to do a complex transformation looking at 600 labels and 10 different types of ranged value knobs. Being able to read/edit the values in a grid is thinking too big and thinking too far outside the box for these companies to do, it's just too obvious of a thing so they can't ever do it. And it will always be the same over and over again, another hardware UI emulation forced on us. The UI is actually really cute and professional looking and I might even use it sometimes, but when there's no other option for something clearer and faster to read it's hard to appreciate it.
The lay out is actually very simple and Brilliant, once you get it sorted out . . . The Boost/Cut button is Brilliant . . . as it saves on what would be 16 more knobs. (-;
Gui is horrible, can hardly read anything on my screen, anyway way too many knobs on one plugin, no fun at all, so useless for me, also pretty high on cpu
This is the best plugin that Plugin Alliance have released in my opinion.
Co-Sign..just got it today
This is by far the best LISA tutorial I've seen yet. Clear and to the point, with great background and details. Thank you!
Excellent run through. A clear straightforward explanation that cleared up a couple of things that were puzzling me. Much appreciated, cheers
29:45 a best one conclusion to me !... yes, or , "when it's important to go to the end, to listen to and watch.... Thanks !
Always look forward to your videos Mike. Thank you for breaking things down so eloquently.
Best explanation so far. Just one note - the manual is referring to compression /expansion rather than compression / limiting. Other than that this is a very welcome detailed explanation that is helping me get my head around this very useful plugin. (I'm a fan of the "optical" sound and this is one of the best plugins I've purchased from PA I must say. )
An amazing explanation beyond just the plugin review filled with A grade lesson about technology, terminology and super useful info normally hidden deeply within mixing/mastering books. Thank you. Subscribing!
Clarified my confusion regarding the dynamics section, thanks a lot!
⭐️⭐️ Wow! What an incredibly capable device!
I’m really impressed.
I let my demo expire before I really learned much about it. Now that I know all this, I’m just going to buy it.
I’ll sit with this video and walk through it one step at a time. That should solidify my understanding of its operation. 👍👍
Amazing explanation! best on YT so far. Technicals are very important in this case. Thank you for drawing this as it's way easier to visualize this it and understand. Great EQ but it's CPU hog. I hope they will optimize it. And only 100% size available (bug).
This thing is a beast, it can bring a low volume drum sample to life. Or low volume synth pad. Yes really clean deep sound.
Great video as always Mike!
It would be great if the plugin Gui gets "halved" when you activate channel link. I find that when working in link mode you should be able to hide the
second channel in order to get a less convoluted , easier on the eye Tool. It has great possibilities but gee that looks so crowded an convoluted I got almost dizzy in the end :-)
This would also be great on individual channels, especially more percussive sounds, bass, Rythm guitar, and with brass you could get an amazing polish
Great plugin but needs more knobs ;)
LoL - Oh that made me laugh!
😂😂😂
Great piece, would have a long learning curve to learn how to get it to do the detailed work
Great walk thru.. this one sure i a GEM....but it need some fiddling.
The GUI leaves a lot to wish for, but the sound is delicious 💚
Best explanation. Excellent run through, Much appreciated
This was a GREAT video again... Hey Mike when is this coming out bro? I got the email but not to purchase it yet. Peaceeeee
Michael Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.
I'm interested in this one , looks and sounds great, i just missed a $31 deal for it, although it will come back around , i got some other stuff Audiothing "speakers" and toontrack dance pop EZ keys expansion they work on my 3 set ups the Tomo Lisa will only work on my up to date mac , but it's still worth it, it'll come back around , July 4th explosion sale !! lol thanks for the good review.
All their plugins are $30 will the forever 29 subscription. Pay $29 get the code buy any plug-in for $1 cancel subscription. Repeat.
I did recently buy the soma knif EQ thats pretty bad ass, it never ends ! at least it's not hardware prices
Literally bought the Soma a couple of weeks ago, then 2 mastering engineer friends recommended LISA and now I have to buy this too because it is that good! It definitely never ends. 😂
Right !?@y@?! The hardware version of the TOMO Lisa is $15,000.
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All you need for EQ plugins are:
1) for tracks/mix bus: Q432 (Kush Audio's version, etc.) [subtractive-additive EQ]
2) for mastering : TOMO Audiolabs LISA [mastering EQ so analog so pro....better than Michelangelo Hendyamps EQ, AMEK 200/250 EQs, EQ1 and Curve Bender mastering EQs]
Pristine as usual, thanks for the walk through. 😉
Superb 🧿🙌
Interesting stuff. Mike how do you think this compares to the Pro-Q3 dynamicEQ features in natural phase mode?
If you are a Pro Q user, check out the Kirchhoff EQ.
@@bakharandi I did check it out. And it's better than the ProQ3 at the moment, but I still have faith in Fabfilter and I will wait for the ProQ4 and then decide if I'm gonna switch over to Kirchhoff. Especially now since I got other stuff like the SplitEQ which even the Kirchhoff doesn't compare to (edit: + I know it's unimportant but I hate how the Kirchhoff looks, the Fabfilter is just so beautiful to took at xD)
@@joost3783
At the end of the day, it's what You are comfortable with, to get the results You are looking for. ProQ3 set the bar high and Kirchoff just raised the bar, yet, like Pro Tools, ProQ will always be around because it does what it does very well , , , As for Split EQ, I got very excited about that one as well, when I demoed it. Yet, I realized that Kirchhoff also has the ability to tame, excite, and shape the Transients very well . . . As every one of their 30 plus bands, in Dynamic mode, has the "Above" and "Below" sections, with additional control over threshold and ratio (Percentage), ect . . . So, I poked around and found out and learned how to get the same results, very quickly . . . Kirchhoff is really an All-around Desert Island Beast, like an advanced Swiss Army Knife of EQs . . . Yet, of course, if one can get all of the same results with a variety of other tools that vibe better with one's established workflow and aesthetic, than there is no real need to add it to your collection . . . I also find that it need not replace anything else in my collection . . . Even though I can get the Maag 40k harmonic series excitement by opening a midrange "Blue" Shelf in a node, I may still open a Maag EQ somewhere else, anyway . . . Even though it can duplicate all of the Pultec curves, I will still open a Pultec style EQ somewhere else, anyway . . . Even though I can pop in a 3.2k Neve Bell curve node, I will also open a Neve console emulation, somewhere else, anyway, ect.
We are truly Blessed in this Era, to have such Amazing Professional Tools at our fingertips, without having to Mortgage our homes to acquire them . . . ! . . . 🙂
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Oh, and even though I Love my Kirchhoff EQ, this TOMO LIsa still tickles me silly at how quickly I can balance out and enhance a mix with it.
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Thank you so much Mike. Pretty well described. I am trying it right now. One question: ¿Possible to use in synth buses? ¿ Other buses? or only in master chain?.
it about .70ms you can use it in mixing busses, I recomend eqp1 pulltec emulations
This Puppy goes to "11" too
Lisa vs TDR Nova?
They are both very special pieces . . . Dan Worral does an excellent job of cracking the code on the TDR Nova.
This is yet another animal..
this thing is insane...
How do this compare to softube Weiss DS1 MK3 mastering plugin ?
How to compare the 2 products since they are not really comparable ? This is a dynamic EQ (but one that can be passive) with multiple bands and the ability to adjust the compression on each band. The DS1-MK3 does not have the possibility to work on frequencies in such a precise way. It is a "finishing" tool in Mastering that requires real skills because this product is complex (best way is to Start with the MM1 and upgrade to the DS1-MK3). The 2 tools are of course complementary
Sorry for my poor english :(
@@klhtexier580 Why is this poor English? ;) Is this understatement? ;)
For one, I think the Weiss is double or triple the price, but it has a great reputation for what it does.
Got it for $30 in the sale, laughing!
I was tickled all night beyond belief, on the first night of utilizing this one, as well . . . And for $29.99 on the seasonal sale !?@y@?!
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PA themselves describe LISA saying "This dynamic EQ was designed with mastering applications in mind" and yet you don't demonstrate it mastering. That is just brilliant, BRILLIANT work.
You really need a telescope or a microscope to be able to read the text on each of the bottons, terrible design, extremely confusing, however, great sound!
The UI is a nightmare. There's around 600 labels onscreen. I don't want to see all this crap. I'm not impressed by it. It's supposed to make people feel like it's expensive but I don't care. That design was a requirement for the hardware but it's not a requirement for the software. It's just there to please noobies who wanna feel like they have a fun toy. It would be much better if you could switch to a view that has rows and columns with simple big LED readouts for each of the frequencies and gain values that you can mouse up and down on. With this horrible UI you can't just glance at the plugin and read what the values are set to, which you could do in 1 second if it was readable. Instead you have to do a complex transformation looking at 600 labels and 10 different types of ranged value knobs. Being able to read/edit the values in a grid is thinking too big and thinking too far outside the box for these companies to do, it's just too obvious of a thing so they can't ever do it. And it will always be the same over and over again, another hardware UI emulation forced on us. The UI is actually really cute and professional looking and I might even use it sometimes, but when there's no other option for something clearer and faster to read it's hard to appreciate it.
Seems pretty straight forward to me honestly. Just avoid hardware emu's if it's not your thing.
Use 150%
The lay out is actually very simple and Brilliant, once you get it sorted out . . . The Boost/Cut button is Brilliant . . . as it saves on what would be 16 more knobs.
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Gui is horrible, can hardly read anything on my screen, anyway way too many knobs on one plugin, no fun at all, so useless for me, also pretty high on cpu
Use 150%