Why Doesn't It Null? bx_console Amek 9099

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  • In which I take almost an hour to review the new Amek 9099 plugin from Plugin Alliance / brainworx, and still don't cover all the features; I reveal my most compelling reason not to use the FabFilter EQ; and I claim to know better than Rupert Neve when it comes to EQ design. Could I be any more wrong?
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  • @DanWorrall
    @DanWorrall  3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I've added some affiliate links to the video description. If you make a purchase using these links I'll get a small commission, and you'll be helping to encourage more such videos in future.

    • @DJeMo
      @DJeMo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry for the late shout, but I came back to this refresher as I have a choice of adding this amek 9099 channel strip to my collection or I was looking at the new soma eq, any opinion on what freebie I should get big sir?? Appreciate all your insights...

    • @DanWorrall
      @DanWorrall  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DJeMo I can't answer that, sorry. I've not tried most of the options, I don't know your tastes, or what you have already. Just pick one, don't overthink it. :)

    • @DJeMo
      @DJeMo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanWorrall wow thanks for the speedy shout back, appreciate your time and train of thoughts, firm handshakes to you from Northern Ireland 🤝

    • @zither715
      @zither715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@DJeMo the amek 9099 is my main channel strip, i find it saves overusing too many different plugins having all the features it does. I think out of all the brainworx channel stips plugins its capable of sounding the most modern. The SOMA looks really overwhelming in terms of gui for a mixing plugin, but might be good for mastering

    • @mariusle3385
      @mariusle3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      using multiple eq's from multiple companies, creates your unique sound and gives more color

  • @miket5314
    @miket5314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +595

    I just watched an hour video for a plug-in I never even intend on buying. That’s the Dan Worrall effect.

    • @NikolausBrocke
      @NikolausBrocke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same with me. After watching the video of Paul Third th-cam.com/video/BoIboZsBiRk/w-d-xo.html it was already clear that I would never buy it.

    • @soundtoys795
      @soundtoys795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@NikolausBrocke Paul Third is a newb who's only qualification is he has a decent camera.. You probably know more about audio than him. Dan is someone you can learn from.

    • @TreyMotes
      @TreyMotes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@soundtoys795 LOL as if you know.

    • @lambd01d
      @lambd01d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You always learn something watching Dan's videos.

    • @soundtoys795
      @soundtoys795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TreyMotes Anybody knows more than Paul Third, probably even you.

  • @itube0103
    @itube0103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    This is not just a product review. This IS an education. Hat off to you, Sir.

  • @TheFatRat
    @TheFatRat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    This is how a plugin review should be done. Great job! BTW, I like the TMT mode. If you run mono signals through the stereo version of the plugin it can give them a subtile stereo image. Interestingly this even happens with all EQ settings at 0. In addition the "Stereo Width" knob is placed at the very end of the signal chain and therefor affects the TMT differences between two channels. So you basically have a stereo maker knob for mono signals.

    • @jamescuttsmusicjcm5013
      @jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True dat. :D

    • @nectariosm
      @nectariosm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. Its a great mono to stereo trick that is mono compatible. I use it for synths and it does the job rather well.

    • @DanWorrall
      @DanWorrall  3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I did acknowledge that those differences can be useful on stereo channels. But equally, how hard is it to dial in separate L/R EQ with Pro-Q3? And then you get to control exactly where the differences are and how much, instead of just trusting to random chance.

    • @TreyMotes
      @TreyMotes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@DanWorrall manually dialing in something on Pro-Q is much more tedious and mundane vs just clicking a button a few times and then adjusting from there, IMO.

    • @Mansardian
      @Mansardian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TreyMotes Really? To enter a decimal on Freq and Gain on the left or right channel?

  • @dannyjesse3655
    @dannyjesse3655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Its refreshing to hear someone state how they feel about something without any outward self-judgement or sense of withholding.

    • @mrhay
      @mrhay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And solid evidence, humility and comedy!

  • @Smelter57
    @Smelter57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I worked for Amek in the late '90 when Rupert was a consultant with them. He didn't like digital consoles either. He told the tale that he got the chance to try a digital desk made by his old firm now AMS/Neve. Touch a control knob and you had to wait for it to light up before you could use it. Not what he would call intuitive. Amek did develop a digital desk while I was there, but I got the impression they were dyed in the wool analogue guys. When the company was bought by the Harman group, they tried to kill off the digital console which p****d off the R&D team. I saw the writing on the wall and left before the company was dissolved.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Dan's voice with only the waveform as visual is starting to feel like Hal: "This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish he would use that line in one of his future videos.

    • @Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials
      @Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      haha if ever he says "I can't do it, Dave" you'll reach the goal 🤣

    • @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
      @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      “Open the oversampling menu, Hal.”
      “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”

    • @Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials
      @Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @bakharandi
      @bakharandi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dan Wortall got me hooked with his Tokyo Dawn plugin reviews . . . So thoroughly informative, and entertaining . . . ! . . . :-)
      (-;

  • @mixbustv
    @mixbustv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Oh snap 😂 I love you Dan. I've been wondering nthe same things for a minute

  • @allpdmusic
    @allpdmusic ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I realize this video is almost 2 years old but I just wanted to say thanks. Such a thorough overview. Great job as always Dan!

  • @G3rnot
    @G3rnot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Dan ... your Beginners Guide to EQ opened up a world for me. Now you set a standard of how to review a plugin. You are in the best sense an infoencer instead of an influencer. Big Thx.

  • @simonjanetzki5556
    @simonjanetzki5556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I owned an Amek with the digital dynamics and never loved them. The computer was an old 486, running on DOS. I was also certain that it was a VCA compressor. The gate was also controlled from the computer, which did sound pretty good. The best part was to recall a mix, you had Rupert Neves voice telling you where each know should be.

  • @DrMax0
    @DrMax0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    This was a quite interesting insight in the same "problem" I have when trying to choose analog style channel strips versus the fabfilter toolbox. I came to a very satisfying conclusion. When mixing traditional rock and old rhythm and blues (recorded with real instruments) I prefer old channel strips (like the bx_consoleN) as they are kind of made for this music. I don't have to fiddle around with finding the right frequency or Q. The preset Eq frequencies just fit. That makes me incredibly fast in comparison. On the other side if I mix EDM or modern style pop where lots of outlandish virtual synths and electronic stuff is going on I prefer the Fabfilter stuff. In this case the old-style channels strips just are far too limited to tame the electronic stuff where the frequencies are all over the place (which does not happen so much with traditional instruments). Just me too cents ...

    • @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
      @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @DrMax0 your two cents are helpful to me. I do sync licensing and vacillate between rock & EDM every week. I just picked up bx_digital V3, Pro-Q3 and have Pro-C2 & Pro-G. I’ll try out your strategy on the two styles. Thx.

    • @DrMax0
      @DrMax0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 Great. Let me know how it worked for you.

    • @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
      @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DrMax0 I’ll do that!

    • @jondoe1384
      @jondoe1384 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Elysia is gold on Electronic Music!

    • @tennisgenius
      @tennisgenius ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point, I have a client who loves RnB and soul- as well as the "neo-" versions of both. That means a lot of my production for her will oscillate (lol) wildly between Isley Brothers, Grover Washington, Minnie Ripperton, Syreeta style production that is weird and creative but also beautiful and organic in its instrumentation and the kind of Aaliyah, Kelis, early Beyonce style production that takes its cues from new jack, late 80s hip hop, later worship/gospel music, etc. and I have noticed exactly the same thing. For the former I find more success in mixing the production with outboard gear or PA/UAD analog emulations and for the latter the more surgical and "clean" style is way more beneficial.
      Intuitive sure but great to see it in writing! Appreciate the comment.

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow!!! That sounded great !!!! That mix at the end was great sounding…..very nice!!

  • @kollusion1
    @kollusion1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No faff.
    No spiel.
    No waffle.
    No BS.
    Just fair & firm, useful, & constructive honesty.
    Please, don't ever lose this.
    Thanks.

  • @_evolj
    @_evolj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You say “thanks if you made it this far” like I wouldn’t willingly sit here for 8 hours and listen to you discuss audio.

  • @Whiteseastudio
    @Whiteseastudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Those screws look stripped 😱

    • @mrcoatsworth429
      @mrcoatsworth429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes, makes it sound more authentic!

    • @jjwhittle8873
      @jjwhittle8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Even better Wytse, you can toggle between a clean and "used" interface which has finger prints all over it. How much more authentic can you get?

    • @queenpurple8433
      @queenpurple8433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ohhh shiiiiittt White Sea studio

    • @TwstedTV
      @TwstedTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @manuelninogarces9574
      @manuelninogarces9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! great to see you here!

  • @niner8275
    @niner8275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got a sales offer from Plugin Alliance for this plugin and checked out your video now.
    Well, even if I didn't had any clue about anything here, just listening to your voice is like listening to a very exciting story (and in some way it actually was).

  • @jarrodbiesmann
    @jarrodbiesmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What do mean "well done of you've meade it this far"? I'm sure all of us enjoyed every second of this and would still keep watching if there was more. I have so much respect for the way you break down plugins and review their features. For me, your tutorials and plugin reviews are so packed with useful information, I'm still watching these videos time and time again. I had a moment of self consciousness when you said the channel strip EQ won't judge you like a visual one. I can honestly recall countless times where if mine were able to, they most certainly would be. Thanks again Dan.

  • @surgicalglitch3265
    @surgicalglitch3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Neve E 9098i was/is an amazing console, much respect to Brainworx's assiduity and diligence for using it as reference. I very much respect what Brainworx does with its Tolerance Modeling Technology (TMT). I can't say I like when companies make an emulated matrix off vintage hardware and add extra parameters that they claim 'enhance' the plugin when they are trying to create a plugin that is utilizing CPU emulation to recreate vintage hardware. But regardless I think this is a pretty bloody spot on job Brainworx.
    Thanks for the insight Dan.

  • @MikeBrayton
    @MikeBrayton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm mesmerized by the way Dan talks. His Brit accent, and pacing, and subtle sense of humor. I come away feeling, like, well, tickled. :). Thanks for the great content, Dan.

  • @marialuciagubolin7964
    @marialuciagubolin7964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just came to the comments to say: What an amazing lecture! Thank you so much for such a amazing exchange of knowledge! :D

  • @philburns5656
    @philburns5656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great to have a such profound review! This is really outstanding from all the other small reviews. Thanks very much, Dan!! It would be great to have this kind of review on the other console that the plugin world is talking off these days, the BlackBird BBN105.

  • @dustystewart430
    @dustystewart430 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As usual, Dan has done yet another video that is intuitive, informative, and helpful.
    I couldn’t help but shake my head when Dan mentioned his early experiences with graphically based processing, because I’d also fallen prey to “mixing with my eyes”, when back in the late 90’s, I bought a digital desk, (a Yamaha 02R) which had a visual graph for EQ, Compression, etc.
    The first few weeks of using that console, my mixes sounded bloody terrible (and I’d been an engineer for nearly 17 years up to that point) because I had completely changed my approach to mixing, totally changing what I’d always done when previously working on analog desks.
    My first mixes on that digital desk sounded shallow, one dimensional, sterile…
    The answer for me didn’t come quickly; it wasn’t until I finally realized what I was doing, and went back to using my ears first, that my mixes started sounding good again. So, for me, the answer was in the awareness of what I was doing.
    Still, all these years later, I have to be careful at times, when I’m using plugs like Fabfilter, or similar processors that provide the ability to make adjustments in a graphic environment, because I can still revert back to mixing with my eyes instead of relying on my ears.
    FWIW
    🙏

  • @MartinvonBargen
    @MartinvonBargen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Miss! Miss! Daniel Worrall's talking about knobs and his low end's glowing!

  • @aldo34
    @aldo34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People saying that this somehow 'harms' Brainworks - don't get that myself? Great review; constructive, probing, honest...with ultimately an 'I like it' at the end but plenty of food for thought on the philosophical elements of analog modelling as a concept and pricing models across the piece. Nowhere near the 'gotcha' that people seem to be taking from it? I have many PA and Fabfilter plug-ins - love and use them all in different ways and absolutely REVEL in the fact that we have these types of tools at our disposal for - if you wait for the sales ;-) - a relatively affordable cost. That's great isn't it?

  • @BojanBojovic
    @BojanBojovic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Dan for a president of United Federation Of Planets.

    • @jarcau_vegan
      @jarcau_vegan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's take care, and not just ownership, of this one first 🍀

    • @clown134
      @clown134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jarcau_vegan that's a good line

  • @cornerliston
    @cornerliston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Well, the ongoing hunt for “analogue.”
    What I like with modeling plugins is that they challenge me to listen to the mix instead of watching the curves. In companion with my Fabfilter plugins which I can't be without.
    Another analogue modeling topic is that so many (well known and not well well known) mixing engineers claim the “sound” is so apparent. The Neve sound, SSL sound, the AMEK ‘magic’ sound. And so on. What I would like to see is a blind test with these mixing engineers claiming this, between a mix made with modeling only compared to the same mix done with non modeling plugins.
    Maybe some will actually hear the difference but my guess is that it will be just that. A 50% chance as it often is.

    • @mattheasboelter5217
      @mattheasboelter5217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I suspect the real difference they are talking about is not sound, but workflow.

    • @mattheasboelter5217
      @mattheasboelter5217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CerealKiller just addressing your aside: I think it's more realizing that they might come to digital from analog and then get worse results not because you can't get the same sounds, but because they don't know the tools as well. That would result in them saying it "sounds worse" when really it just requires a different way of working. Because they've been doing it forever, they aren't likely to invest the time into learning the new tools properly, so analog is stuck sounding better until people come around and learn the new tools well enough to disprove it (which I think has already happened, we just haven't lost the stigma yet).

    • @cornerliston
      @cornerliston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattheasboelter5217 Maybe you're right, but I often hear them rant about ‘the sound’ and not the workflow : )

    • @cornerliston
      @cornerliston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CerealKiller Indeed, Mattheas has a valid point too.

    • @dirkchurlish4074
      @dirkchurlish4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattheasboelter5217 I'm always happy when I can satisfactorily approximate the sound of an analog processor in the box. The fact that it takes more work (or more time or more plugins) is one kind of proof that analog does sound better, even if only in a "by default" sense of the word better. But there is more than one standard of proof for that statement, and more than one sense of the word "better." I also find, as someone coming from digital and moving into analog a little bit, that stuff often sounds better without me having to work at it when I'm using an analog tool. For whatever that's worth. One thing's for sure--I'm digging the workflow on these channel strip style plugins lately.

  • @JMilnazikMusic
    @JMilnazikMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    re-arranging my day to make time for this.

    • @JMilnazikMusic
      @JMilnazikMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      and I'm glad I did. another incredibly well done video. once again I leave feeling like I learned a whole lot about my toolbox.

    • @MIHAO
      @MIHAO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JMilnazikMusic same here

    • @pedrochalkho7629
      @pedrochalkho7629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Also, turning off my phone notifications and infusing some herbs.

  • @iainmackenzieUK
    @iainmackenzieUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am getting better - understood around 80%. That's seriously, a big "well done" to me AND thank you to Dan
    Thank you Dan

  • @MesaMXR
    @MesaMXR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm only 6 minutes in and I'm loving this video so far, Dan. I love geeking out to stuff like this. I don't always understand the concepts you talk about in your videos but they are so fascinating.

  • @m.i.stapes
    @m.i.stapes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even really care about the plugin comparisons as much as just learning from your experience and analysis. Excellent.

  • @danniielleoconnor1922
    @danniielleoconnor1922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent video as usual Dan! Thoroughly enjoyed this one.
    I'm a big fan of both PA and FabFilter and have many full licenses for PA plugins and a Mega bundle subscription I've had since it was launched. I also have licenses for FabFilter EQ, comp, MB comp and limiter and find myself using a combination of PA and FabFilter extensively on most of my mixes and mastering work.
    I actually completely agree with almost all of your praise AND criticisms of this console and PA in general. I almost always have the TMT feature set to the same channel number in both channels (what they call digital mode). I too find the frequency shifts with the sheen and glow options rather odd but I haven't used the real console so can't comment from experience there. I do like that they offer quite dramatic differences though and that can sometimes inspire creativity.
    Oh, I must mention that it was your videos that got me into FabFilter a few years ago. So, a big thank you for that!

  • @BrofUJu
    @BrofUJu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for this review. I plan on grabbing this if it's a decent price largely for the insanely low CPU hit. I work with tons of tracks and can work quickly. If I need more specific saturation and things I'll load more plugins as needed.

  • @unfa00
    @unfa00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how you understate your suspicion of severe fuc*kuppery with a gentle "Interesting.".

  • @nectariosm
    @nectariosm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The range of tones available on the dynamics section of this plug in, is *very* impressive.

  • @andywild9183
    @andywild9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Dan, I found that analysis very interesting and enjoyable, well worth the time I set aside to listen. I think it added a lot to my understanding of what we are really buying and what the plugins are doing.

  • @MartinvonBargen
    @MartinvonBargen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Deffo 53 minutes well spent. And I've learnt a few new things too. Cheers for another informative vid again mate.

  • @pitbullvicious2505
    @pitbullvicious2505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a beginner bedroom producer -- musical background in DJing and guitar -- binge watching videos about mixing, mastering and plugins. I'm a nerdy type (researcher by trade) with a huge appetite to learn, and I can't praise your review (doesn't feel right to call it just that, though) enough. So well constructed, well explained and detailed, yet feet firmly on the ground (more than you can say for some "audiophiles"). As a beginner, I've been on a discovery trip about what kind of plugins to get. I usually just go by people's recommendation, and then try to figure out how things work, while watching more tutorials, trying to hear and understand. In less than an hour you've probably taught me more than all the other videos I've watched in the last six months. Thank you! Definitely subscribed.

  • @dirkchurlish4074
    @dirkchurlish4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The move-all-by-one idea would make me actually want TMT. Amazing idea!

  • @randyranson84
    @randyranson84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do all my mixes of plugins by ear, and when I reach that one spot in the zone I'm attempting to get to, that's when I rest all my plugins, with all knowledge and markings of where I'm at, before attempting to push and play, sometimes leading to a better more creative sound on top, or a return to my starting point, and further play, once satisfied, that's where I leave it. Many times I've even surprised myself from where all this leads. Mixing does make a difference and the more real it can make all the instruments sound, the greater the overall sound. I once took an average recording of the Beatles on stage, and made it sound as clear and clean as if you were standing with them on the same stage. Never underestimate the dynamics and ability of plugins, you just have to work them over and over until they're like second nature to you, once you've got it, you're off to the races. Great video, I will be getting this plugin in the future, as you said, when Plugin Alliance puts it on sale. Thanks.

  • @PauloSartori
    @PauloSartori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best movie I've watched in a long while. Grateful (as always), Professor Dan Worrall!

  • @KariKauree
    @KariKauree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan's voice is so soothing that I keep falling asleep over this video, but I want to learn so I have to keep trying until I've watched it all

  • @nikolaudio
    @nikolaudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I literally love Dan’s videos so much. Interesting every single time I can’t look away

  • @ManicMaximus
    @ManicMaximus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great timing. I was playing around with this plugin the other night. Your under the hood analysis gave me some context for the next time I fire it up. I think brainworx has a winner with this one. Cheers

  • @BrofUJu
    @BrofUJu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Btw, seen other tests on this, the Glow and Sheen are more like Pultec style boosts that go well beyond the range, turning them off turns it more into a classic SSL style boost.

  • @azoteapost8734
    @azoteapost8734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The stereo widening effect is what the TMT is made for. Not to conflict your eq moves for example. Is for widen tracks and busses. And it really feels better than a static ew on the same stereo channels or busses. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video.

  • @nikirose7673
    @nikirose7673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent. I always learn stuff from Dan's vids that goes beyond the actual plugin being looked at.

  • @wadebay
    @wadebay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another welcome master class, in a sea of opinions. Thank you! In my opinion, your videos foster dialogue and true conversation-- a real gift that keeps on giving.

  • @parboilrice
    @parboilrice 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the only person who can make me watch a 1 hour deep dive of a Channel Strip plugin....
    Well done.

  • @jessegrisham
    @jessegrisham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I looked at the length of the video and said, "No way I'll watch the entire thing." Then Dan began speaking and here I am at the end.

    • @smujohnson
      @smujohnson วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same.

  • @fullsoundrecording
    @fullsoundrecording ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks man, you addressed some of my findings using my ears in using this plug in and I have to agree that I'm surprised they did not just go ahead and address the cramping in the mids as an improvement like they did the gate and so on, and not adding pre and post 4 bands of Q in the comp and limiter section as well would have been a change well worth the added work. I personally don't use this plug in as I just did not find it was worth it for just the THD when I have HEAT in protools for that added THD effect. And I tend to use differently Q plug ins for different sources. I have not told you in the past but I do appreciate your great videos and the painstaking time and energy you put into them, I think hands down the most informative and consistent constructive videos on TH-cam. Now there maybe someone out there doing it but I have not found them, No one else comes even close to your refreshing honest analytical style and format of narratives and deconstruction of plug ins and hardware. Thank you so much. I just don't have the time or patience to go through what you do for us out here. And knowing now today after the few years I have been educated by your videos it's rare I would ever say this but I would pay for your videos knowing what I know of them now. Please don't change your availability to them as I think so many out there have such bad ideas of what is what and you are one who keeps it honest for those whom will watch and learn, and seem to have no bias and when you do you say so. Thanks man. JTH
    Edit: Oh and i forgot to mention im an old large frame analog desk ownwer having owned some AMEKS and woked on a 9098i for years and SSL, Owned a Mitsubishi Quad Eight Westar installed in one of my rooms of the past, Focusrite etc over the years so I come from a tactile approach.

  • @julienlegardeur7431
    @julienlegardeur7431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a good and precise analysis and comparison. Thank you so much! I would like to see more plugin review like this. It has help me to make the choice I wasn't sure about

  • @marceloribeirosimoes8959
    @marceloribeirosimoes8959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In fact, the first 7:50 mins of this video made me realize that buying and playing with emulations plugins is the closest thing to playing with male or female dolls and understanding (while playing with them) they are real persons...
    We are playing video games, too.
    It's like "Oh, this is just like that equipment...!!!" when we often have only a mouse and a qwerty keyboard, like me, for example.
    Maybe that's why I've seen a video yesterday with a guy almost jumping around his computer after trying a physical SSL channel strip to command his SSL plugin...
    He demanded and asked something like that to control this AMEK plugin, too.
    Thank you, Dan.

  • @canecreek00
    @canecreek00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review, i know nothing is likely to change but its worth mentioning that bx_console Amek 9099 is actually in beta stage at the moment hence why it is not for sale yet

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THE GUI LOOKS REALISTIC SO MUST SOUND ANALOG.

  • @Mansardian
    @Mansardian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dan, a big THANK YOU! I felt like being the only one who wouldn't buy the "advantage" of TMT. My reasons are a little different, though. Normally, I'd have mainly mono signals in my channels, so the signal would be different anyway. That TMT differences only get relevant if you have the exact same signal on two channels, panned to L and R, only then you'll hear the effect. Otherwise, the L/R-difference of a true stereo signal is way bigger than that tiny alteration by TMT. I just can't see the benefit. If one really believes that TMT gives so much more depth and 3D...just change the parameter decimals of the settings of one channel. Like 3.1 dB boost instead of 3 dB, and 3.1KHz instead of 3KHz. Pretty much the same.

  • @shorerocks
    @shorerocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dry. Witty. Not that I always share Dan's (expert) opinions, but I always enjoy listening to them. And I always learn something. Always.

  • @Archaic1Eye
    @Archaic1Eye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An excellent, informed, no nonsense review. I like your style man. I think that I too will pick up this unit ... in a sale.

  • @maramustudio8794
    @maramustudio8794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content. It was funny at the end you expected to hear "I won't use this" but suddenly "Ok i'll buy it". Thanks for the wisdom and sharing your knowledge. Grettings from Peru!

  • @kehindea
    @kehindea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your slight patronising tone and British wit poking through your commentary. It’s necessary when we do dumb things and ask dumb questions haha. Subbed.

  • @seancampbell6296
    @seancampbell6296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow!!! I have never seen a review as in depth and on point as this

  • @MPHORROCKS
    @MPHORROCKS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A clear, unbiased, professional and engaging review! Thanks so much Dan! :)

  • @jasonhowlett8017
    @jasonhowlett8017 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have been waiting for a review video like this to walk me through this strip. Thank you. I got it for £28.50 btw :)

  • @russelledwards2405
    @russelledwards2405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most useful review of this plugin to date. Very balanced and honest. I just picked it up because, as you pointed out, PA dropped it to 29.99. Thanks to your video I made templates with my common configurations with the TMT channels set to match my track numbers. Why this isn't default is silly to me. This will certainly not outperform a chain of individual powerhouse plugins like Fabfilter, but I am finding that channel plugins do make for a usable stock setup that speeds my workflow via elimination of plugin decision. Of course, I ise other plugins, but this gets me off to a solid start.

  • @moogfooger
    @moogfooger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great presentation wityh some real commentary. Thanks for your forthright approach and hands on techniques. It makes understanding the differences more apparent. I just bought 9000J BTW. (on sale) Cheers

  • @togitom
    @togitom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't get bored in your videos. I learn and learn. Thank you very much. Cheers!

  • @jeff92k7
    @jeff92k7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was fascinating. It's nice to see all the detailed testing. It's nicer to see that your end result matches what I already heard with my ears... It's a perfectly decent plug in, but is just 'different'.
    I picked this one up (on sale, of course) and am happy with it, but it won't replace my "go-to" standard of using the SSL Native Channel Strip 2 as my default insert on every channel. However, if I didn't already have the SSL channel strip, I wouldn't have any hesitation with using this plugin as a default on every channel.
    I also grew up mixing live in the analog era, and I love these plug ins that force us to mix with our ears again.

  • @jimimaze
    @jimimaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learn a lot about how to get a better mix while you twist knobs for null testing. I love it.

  • @universeman657
    @universeman657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use the bx console focusrite se. On the topic of tmt, I actually like the effect on stereo channels, as it seems to add some extra stereo depth to everything more naturally (and with less work) than something like a stereo widening plugin. And doing it manually could also take more time and not sound quite as authentic. That’s just my opinion.

  • @nichttuntun3364
    @nichttuntun3364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most differienciated video about a bx plugin ever made :) Thank you. Cheers

  • @94XJ
    @94XJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh yes, the Vi6! I had a sweet spot in my heart for Soundcraft before but the Vi6 really holds a very special place to me. My ears perked up as soon as I heard it mentioned!

  • @HollandOates
    @HollandOates 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Another great vid, thanks! REQUEST: Can you analyze the results of using these new “smart spectral shaping” plugins like Soothe 2 and Smooth Operator that claim to remove resonances via algorithms, and see if: 1) they’re causing dangerous phasing/distortion 2) you can just accomplish the same thing with FabFilter plugins?

    • @connermusic
      @connermusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Here is a super in depth review / dive into what Soothe is doing if you’re interested: www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/2018/10/27/Oeksound-Soothe-Review.html

    • @NikolausBrocke
      @NikolausBrocke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Soothe 2 is a total different animal! It's innovativ and very complex internally. But easy to operate and can benefit your mastering only experienced individuals could do before. That's the future of software. The same with Smart EQ 3.

    • @Sondaze
      @Sondaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soothe 2 should not be in the same sentence as smooth operator lmao entirely different beast. One of the greatest modern tools created in terms of usability and workflow

    • @checktheneck
      @checktheneck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love dangerous phasing/distortion, so I don't care

  • @NewoNZ
    @NewoNZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be honest and say that I know nothing about the things you make videos on but thoroughly enjoy the format and presentation you use. I continue to watch and hope that my brain absorbs some of important bits so thanks for that.

  • @amphonix_blue
    @amphonix_blue 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very useful Dan. Thanks for sharing and for doing all that work.

  • @vcgrecords9159
    @vcgrecords9159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am new to mixing, 3 years to be exact. I recently acquired the SSL 9000J from plugin alliance . It’s working for me. I am still training my ears and as a young mixing engineer I am working not overdoing things, Working with board eq’s makes me really think of every move

  • @meowcula
    @meowcula ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this analysis. I just bought this plugin (on deep sale of course) and was just getting to grips with it. Your analysis gave me an idea of what it's doing and how to use it best, so thank you. One thing I did notice, not sure if you mentioned, but the THD setting seems to do nothing if the EQ is bypassed... so I guess this colouration is the result of the result of the EQ algo/circuitry. Also you didn't use the V Gain knob - I still don't quite know what this does. I'll have a read of the manual then.

  • @JT-hs6hc
    @JT-hs6hc ปีที่แล้ว

    Your voice is incredibly calming! This helped me calm down this evening.

  • @axelfoley1768
    @axelfoley1768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is thorough, I like his style. And he's not afraid to put his views forward. And he seems to know what he's talking about. I subscribed 🪂📸

  • @vigilantestylez
    @vigilantestylez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was originally harsh on this video, but after watching it again, it is very accurate, and honest. I will sub. Excellent video, and breakdown of what is going on under the hood.

  • @pedrotlima
    @pedrotlima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A beautiful, dispassionate review taking a very in-depth look at what seems to be everything! Thank you so much for this!

  • @bonolesso
    @bonolesso 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing that could be worth looking into is whether the Glow and Sheen modes distort more (or differently). Even though, judging by the easier nulls with them turned on, I'd say that's not the case, or maybe these modes actually distort less rather than more. If they're modelling console saturation, there ought to be EQ-related saturation and not simply a saturation at the end of the process (even though this is actually more manageable than lots of moderate amounts of saturation going on all over the place).

  • @MarioLuisYT
    @MarioLuisYT ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video review, probably the only review you'll ever need on this plugin due to how well you've covered everything , cheers.

  • @Fluxwithit
    @Fluxwithit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a fantastic video. I will say aside from the random curve thing, I actually really like a lot of the little quirks of the bx plug in.

  • @Harrysound
    @Harrysound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I got this plugin this morning for 30 quid :) I've always used graphic EQs and your standard digital EQs so using this console stuff is making me do different things and I kinda like the results to be honest.

  • @vicnest
    @vicnest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the review. Incredible aspects and details. Need more reviews!

  • @dirkchurlish4074
    @dirkchurlish4074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Give this man his free copy, Dirk!

  • @TrentSolo
    @TrentSolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting review. I think it speaks to how many of us mix today- we have a Pro Q-3 as our first plug on every channel; and then a console plugin or a Slate style mix rack on every channel as the next one. Best of all worlds.

  • @CT-ho6si
    @CT-ho6si 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thought I'd watch a quick plugin review (for a plugin I'm not interested in lol) and ended up getting my mind blown. Thanks Dan. Please keep the videos coming.

  • @MACRONOne
    @MACRONOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this honest review, very helpful.

  • @aryabanerjee1179
    @aryabanerjee1179 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching your videos is like a story unraveling, please never stop making videos and don't delete any of the uploaded ones.

  • @Keroser1983
    @Keroser1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great tutorial and review. Thank you. And if I may Dan, when I die please narrate my life.

  • @Reggi_Sample
    @Reggi_Sample 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They say don’t listen to these videos on phone speakers but they focus the midrange so well you can really identify the changes

  • @madshamanstudios
    @madshamanstudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dan, superbly articulated and thorough. I think I'll slap the Amek 9099 all over my next song and enjoy a measure of saturation. Nice music at the end!

  • @LondraCalibro9
    @LondraCalibro9 ปีที่แล้ว

    your work for fab filter taught me a lot - thank you! great video.

  • @zigpop67
    @zigpop67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A year later : thanks ! Insightfull . I'll try and master it, and use it on every track,.

  • @Accoy2
    @Accoy2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for another eye-opening video journey Dan. May I suggest that you start making some educational videos when you find the time? I think there is a huge need for your perfect way of explaining things especially on more technical aspects of engineering like "how things work". Maybe that could be a good name for a playlist on your channel!? I know I would be thrilled to have you tutor me and I bet all I have that i am not the only one. Would you please consider it? Thank you!

  • @andyfreeze4072
    @andyfreeze4072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dan, you have quite clearly pointed me in the direction i need to go. All these so called emulation channel strips have a unique customization of the work flow. I started using the SSl EV and i found i got similar results using various other plug ins only much faster with the SSL strip. I just couldnt articulate what i was doing. This video has quite clearly given me a slap in the face. I now understand a bit better . I dont need to spend a whole heap of money on " legendary" channel strips, I just need to understand what the hell i am doing a lot better. I will be using the EV more as a template from now on rather than the final arbiter of what i do. The journey has just got a kick along.

  • @jonathanfurtado7611
    @jonathanfurtado7611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is one of the best videos ive seen on plugins and damn the amen sounds good even on y MacBook Pro 16 speakers

  • @ATAMusic
    @ATAMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as usual Dan! Thank you! For a limited time, those who own the "Soundwide Welcome Bundle" from PA, bx_console Amek 9099 can be grabbed for $30.99.

    • @eg4358
      @eg4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got it, Class A comp and True peak limiter for around $42-43 total

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must admit it sounds really good imo.