The Life, Crimes And East End Of Charles Allen Lechmere - Jack The Ripper Suspect.
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- In this video, I am joined by Edward Stow of The House of Lechmere Channel ( / channel ) for a walk around the East End to discover the haunts of Jack the Ripper suspect Charles Allen Lechmere.
Our journey begins alongside the memorial to the victims of the Bethnal Green tube station disaster, the worst civilian disaster of World War II, in which three members of the Lechmere family lost their lives.
We then move on to explore the streets - or, in some cases, the sites of the streets - that were associated with Charles Allen Lechmere, as well as with his forebears and his descendants.
Central to the story is Doveton Street, where Charles and his family were residing on the 31st of August 1888 when Charles set off for work at between 3.15 and 3.30 a.m. On his way, he passed along Buck's Row where, in the shadow of the Victorian Board School (that still stands today) he discovered the body of Mary Ann Nichols. Or, at least, that's the story he told at the inquest into the death of Mary Nichols, at which he appeared under the name of Charles Cross.
However, Edward believes that, far from being the finder of the body, Charles Lechmere was in fact the perpetrator of this crime and the other Jack the Ripper murders, and, at the scene, he presents a compelling case for his suspect.
As well as being an exploration of the Whitechapel murders, the video also features some of the wider history of the district - from Captain Cook to the Krays.
The journey ends with a visit to Tower Hamlets Cemetery, where Edward takes us to the site of the grave of Charles Allen Lechmere.
I really really love Edwards style and I think he's right on the money. He knows the case, the area, the general history. I really think he's solved it.
He really has an amazing knowledge about the time, area and people - and even people connected to them. It would be fascinating to talk to him about this. I can't imagine all the research he's done!
Except he actually haven´t. He is just like most other Ripperologists. He bends facts to suit theories.
There is literally nothing to tie Lechmere to the murders. Not one single thing. Nothing. It's all make belief, it's he could have this, he could have that. Meanwhile there is zero evidence he actually did any of it.
So he solved nothing. The prime suspect based on what we actually do know, not what we speculate might have happened is Kosminski. Because unlike Lechmere Kosminski can be linked to two of the murders. No other suspect including Lechmere can be tied to two of the murders. But Kosminski can, and even then we can't point the finger at him and say point blank he did it. But he is and should remain the prime suspect based on what we actually do know, instead of what we guess might have happened.
I've been following both the "Jack The Ripper Tours" and "House of Lechmere" channels for some time, so am delighted at this "joint" video: well done, gentlemen!
I'm with you on this i too have followed both TH-cam Channels, I am 99.99% sure Lechmere is JTR and I feel this video provides an interesting look at Lechmere being the most likely suspect...
Thank you for a very interesting video can't wait too see more soon...
Thats fine but just understand Lechmere aint JTR The ONLY suspects with any REAL evidence against them are Aaron Kosminski or David Cohen
@@deancordery5935 Me too. The murderer wouldn't have bothered pulling the skirt back down slightly
@@kevinkenny6975Very good point
Here, here. Me too.
My 2 favourite channels combined
Love Eric Stow. Thank you for interviewing him.
@Lisa Sargent No, you love Edward Stow!
Yes Edward!
Aww. It's the sentiment that counts 🤣
My strongest suspect is Charles Lechmere/Cross. I enjoyed this presentation. Thank you for sharing.
My God, the East End has been murdered. Now it looks like anywhere, no character.
Richard, you have really upped your game in recent months having Blomer, Stow and Holgrem on the channel and discussing the topics that actually matter.
Indeed. 👍
A great collaboration. Ed sure knows his stuff about the East End.
I’m shocked that the Coventry Street arch is being built over. I’m working on a series of articles about horse slaughtering called ‘Notes from Knackerdom’. I’m glad I managed to get a photo of the arch before it was mucked about with.
I have a portfolio of photos
As an Irish person... Knackerdom 🤣👍
I feel sorry for "London" because they are still so embarrassed by the Ripper murders. Over the years London has gone out of its way to tear down the sites and build different buildings and change the roads, Thats' a shame. It's just history.
Woohoo! My favorite suspect! And Edward Stow!! ❤❤Thank you Richard!
Excellent and interesting video on my favourite JtR suspect Charles Lechmere.
Thank you Mr. Jones and Mr.Stow both for a tremendously interesting tour that, among a great many things, sorted out the position in which both policemen could have seen each other (that I had wrong because I’d failed to take the topography into consideration). It was really great to see the locations surrounding the murder scene to get a broader perspective. And of course, Mr.Stow’s knowledge is indeed both impressive and very valuable. I will now pop over to subscribe to his channel.
Cheers!
Great reporting.
Brilliant film Richard great presentation by you both
Edward convinced me its lechmère.
My favourite JTR youtubers in one video. It is finally happenned, im so happy now. Thank you
out of all the Jack the Ripper documentaries and the suspects ive seen over the decades - the story of Lechmere is the most compelling - we will never know but his story seems like he would be the ripper.
Yeah. He’s always been my most likely suspect.
Thoroughly fascinating, enthralling discussion. Well done guys..
My two favorite Ripperologists collaboration thank you boys
Excellent! Thanks for your outstanding work on this case, Edward. I learn something new each time I watch one of these videos.
Thanks for this Richard! I’m loving this series, as I mentioned before, and this interview and tour was a real treat and one of my personal highlights I must say! Edward Stow is so knowledgeable about not just JTR but all things East End. I subscribe to the House of Lechmere channel and the level of research and explanations is extensive and thorough. Shame about Charles Lechmere’ grave and I had no idea about the Herefordshire connections and the cat meat business! All in all,the whole tour along Bucks Row and the surroundings was very interesting. Thanks very much for such a lovely video! 👏👏👏👍👍👍
This was a great video. It gives you a thorough run through of the locations Lech passed through, on his way to the murder scene, and beyond. Lots of information about the east end in general, and what the layout was on that fateful morning. Edwards added some touches to the narrative that I never though of.
Absolutely amazing and so much great information..You’s two Gentlemen have so much knowledge and carful insight on this case and characters..Thank you both for one of the best u-tube uploads I’ve seen this year so far..I’ll be watching this a good few times👍
I didn’t know that Edward contributed to the Stairway to Heaven memorial. Thank you for including that information.
I wonder if Jimmy Page and Robert Plant did? 😂
This was a fantastic video! I find Mr. Stow to be so informative on this subject. I enjoy all his videos on his channel. Thank you for interviewing him!
Fantastic work . Thank you to you both . Thank you for adding the typed summaries during the video and asking the great questions along the way that came to my mind also and Edward for the amazing history not only about the murder but also the treasure trove of White Chapel history.
This is a very interesting video. I follow both this channel and the House of Lechmere channel. Y'all both do great work and I appreciate you both.
I'm really pleased that this channel highlights so many different aspects of London's history. It's especially gratifying that the much maligned east is so prominent and not just because of JTR.
On another note, the Salmon & Ball pub has such an old school feel to it. Really reminds me of pubs when I was a kid. Not too many of those types of places around nowadays.
The much maligned East is now unaffordable!!!
As a long time fan of Ed and Richard it was a pleasant surprise to find this video. Your chemistry is great and I'm hoping you'd consider another collaboration one day! Thank You!
Great video as always - very interesting!
Interesting and very informative video. Good work Ed!!
Paradise Row is just off Bethnal Green Road, where Mary Jane Kelly once lived with Joseph Fleming.
Poor girl. Those last pictures of her are haunting
Great video. I have really enjoyed the House of Letchmere videos. I even travelled to London to visit all spots and walks in his videos.
Wow, that is awesome. London is on my bucket list!
@@TiaMargarita so much history and character. Enjoy 😊
Spooky!
I don't see much point. The East End has changed to such extent that it is unrecognisable.
This was a fantastic video! I really loved how detailed it was and getting to see the area as it is today along with the history of it all was lovely.
There’s a YT video where they show a photo of what each murder site looked like back then, an old photo, and fade it into a photo of nowadays. The comparison shows just how much the areas have changed.
The walk around the east end was terrific...Tipples! now that brings back memories.
This was dreadfully interesting! Loved every minute of it!
Brilliant. Thoroughly enjoyed this.
This was very interesting indeed! Many thanks :)
Thanks for doing this Rich and Ed. It’s great that you too guys got together. I enjoyed it!
Great channel and vid,highly enjoyable
What a wealth of info from Ed stow. Thanks for your research!
This is great. Edward Stow, along with Christer Holmgren, is one of the leading voices on proving Lechmere's guilt.
I've heard Richard's oppion when pushed on whom the ripper Might be and it sure as hell wasn't Cross .
Yes!! ❤
It can never be proven, but there is more evidence (albeit circumstantial) for Lechmere than for any other suspect.
@@jamescorlett5272. Of course it wasn’t a man named Cross. There was no man named Cross. That was an an alias. Lechmere used that alias.
Edward researched Lechmere at the bequest of a member of the Lechmere family. He never expected that he would uncover JTR’s identity.
Interesting stuff, thank you!
Great video from both you gents 👍
Fascinating, you got to be impressed, The guys knowledge of the east end is amazing.
Brilliant video. This guy has a great memory
Was waiting for that to watch it on my day off
Excellent video about the strongest suspect so far. I always set little store on whether Lechmere can be eliminated as a suspect for some of the murders because there is dispute over when he set out for work or whether he had a day off work. He seems to have been employed by the same firm for many years and like many long established employees he might have been adept at coming or going at times as he pleased or taking a day off when it suited him. If he really was a narcissistic psychopath, it is likely that neither his wife nor his employer knew where he was half the time.
I agrree ..workers that have been with a company for a while seem to come and go when they please arriving late with no one keeping tabs on them sounds viable when it comes tp Mary Kelly
But was it like that for minimum wage type workers, i.e., carmen? I don't think things were so lenient before unions, in the 19th century and before.
@@silverstuff182 No,it wasn't. You are right, they were pretty strict. Theywould have been reluctantly OK with Cross taking a morning to attend a Coroners Inquiry, but if he had been coming and going to suit his murders spree they would have been far less likely to tolerate it.
It's another "how do we manipulate reality to helpit fit Lechmere?" He was a delivery driverfor one of the most prestigious moving companies in London. They kept tight schedules, and would not have looked kindly on their workers turning up late and covered in blood. He no more carried "meat" and would therefore be wearing a bloodstained apron than the Occado driver who delivers me bacon and sausages. The meat he delivered was wrapped andpackaged having already been processed. He wasn't hauling horse flesh round in the backof his cart.
Amazing Info about The Lechmere Family from Edward and Some Of The History of The East End, as well...Very Interesting Stuff, that's 4 sure...😊🤲
Great knowledge exhibited here. Very enjoyable.
Great video
Fascinating video
Excellent video!
This idea that serial killers don’t stop killing is false. It’s not common, but they do. Both Dennis Rader and Edmund Kemper stopped killing and Kemper in fact surrendered to the police.
After what he did to MJK I think an argument can be made that JTR simply stopped and disappeared into history. Whoever he may have been.
Absolutely fantastic!
Many thanks!
1:07 I believe one of Lechmere’s sons died in that tube accident mentioned here. He had a wife and a child (a son I believe) who also died.
Excellent show Guys.
I'm so looking forward to joining the JTR tour in June 2023. What a fascinating story.
great job mate love the hitory
Thankyou Richard for getting Ed to do this. Well done
I haven't seen the video yet so I don't want to jump to conclusions but I can't see how a person whose life and whereabouts are almost fully known after the Ripper Murders could just not have been suspected for pretty much 100 years after the events. Why did he start killing, and most importantly , why did he stop? It's as if we are supposed to believe he had 'a bit of a moment' during the Autumn of 1888 and then just went back to living a normal life?
Charles Lechmeres life and whereabouts are not "almost fully known" after the Ripper murders. We know where he lived and what he did for work, but we have no idea about how he spent his life otherwise. There is no standard answer for why serial killers begin killing. It can have something to do with stressors in their lives, but every killer is unique. Why did Lechmere stop? The same answer; we cannot know. But we DO know that serial killers DO stop! As for "having a moment" back in 1888, the supposition is that he was active over a period of many years, I myself say at the very least from 1873 to 1889, and probably longer. Joseph DeAngelo started burglarizing homes in 1974 and went on with that to 1976, when he "had a bit of a moment" and became a rapist between 1976 and 1979. He then had another bit of a moment and started a serial killer carrier that went on between 1979 and 1986. After that, he stopped short and went on with his private family life and work. Can you tell me why he became a burglar? And why he stopped? And why he began raping women, and then stopped? And why he was a prolific serial killer for a seven year period - after which he stopped? His life and whereabouts are "well known" for the 32 year long period under which he was considered an ordinary working man, living in an ordinary area, having a family and kids and enjoying sport fishing as a hobby. Tell me, if you will, how he managed to do all of this without you - or anybody just like you - having said "No, no, no, Mr DeAngelo, you can't fool me!"
Outstanding watch
Great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice to see ordinary Citizens doing Great things for their Community and City.
Edward was offered the chance to debate Steve Blomer but backed out because Blomer would have (in Stow’s own words) ‘wiped the floor with him’…. Blomer has thoroughly debunked Lechmere as a suspect, so Ed will stay clear of that subject
False claim. Give it a rest.
What a silly claim to make. If anything, Steve Blomer has been very reluctant to meet Edward Stow in debate - but that is his prerogative. I am sure, though, that many people with an interest in the case would like to see a debate involving the for and against sides, and when it comes to the pro Lechmere side, it would be much welcomed. It is therefore sad in the extreme to see posts like this one, very clearly aimed to mislead.
@@christerholmgren335Christer… You KNOW for a fact that Edward swerved the debate…. Both you and Edward steer well clear of talking about Maybrick, as you also KNOW full well that he is by far the most likely suspect
I’m particularly interested in Maria Lechmere (née) Roulson. Her father was the Butler of Edward Bolton Clive, a distant cousin of Clive of India. When EBC died he left a sizeable bequest to Maria’s father.
I should have given you a credit...
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Interesting that it was independent researchers who found no one under the name of Cross.
Great to see two experts pool there knowledge
Hiya Richard, I enjoyed this vlog, I tend to avoid the 1 hour vlogs, he's right on the money, is there any of the victims ancestory still live in the Whitechapel area? Edward's knowledge of Jack the Ripper is Excellent, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumberland, England, the reason I put Cumberland is Where going back to Cumberland in 1 months time, the former name is Cumbria
Him being found standing over a very freshly dead Polly & not being questioned.
He gave the name Charles Allen Cross.
Not his given name. It was his adopted name. His mother had remarried. He used his step father’s name.
He was questioned after a newspaper reported on the scene & asked for his assistance. He didn’t want to draw attention to his family. He had an estranged relationship.
I would very much have questioned this person because he is definitely dodgy.
He had reason to be there. He knew the area.
I have been following the videos
I like this guy for it. I have seen the doc and it makes sense to me.
They can theorize all they want, bottom line is that no one knows who Jack the Ripper really was with 100% certainty.
It's only that uncertainty that keeps the show on the road. If we ever knew who it was then all interest would evaporate. Just imagine the effect of capturing the Loch Ness monster. Fame is but fleeting, but anonymity lasts forever !
Very true. We will never know for sure who the killer was but the human mind is a fickle thing . We enjoy the speculation and the mystery more than we enjoy the whole story. Ever had a story stick in your head because a character was never fully understood or an ending that is not fully explained???
@@wyldvigilante Exactly. That's also why the JFK assassination continues to fascinate a lot of people. As human beings, we enjoy stories and storytelling - but we like our stories to have a proper conclusion. Where there's no definitive or persuasive 'ending', we speculate instead and create our own ending(s).
Lechmere is gaining ground as a suspect, primarily because he has a particularly energetic and eloquent advocate.
No, his suspect status is firmly based on his behaviour on the murder morning and his testimony at the inquest. It would take a very ill equipped advocate to squander it into a bad case.
@@christerholmgren335 I agree he’s amongst the most likely suspects based on what is currently known, but I am also mindful that Ockham’s razor does cut another way, too: many of the factors you take into consideration and give a certain weighting, such as mentioned in the documentary elsewhere on TH-cam, would also apply to any number of other men local to the Whitechapel area. For example, I’ve read on Casebook the study of Aaron Kosminski**, and he also fits the mould as someone whose combination of demographic and geographic ought to be taken seriously (as well as the fact he’s Scotland Yard’s favoured candidate). If we take eyewitness testimony seriously, then Kosminski’s purported identification by Israel Schwartz whilst an inmate has at least as much merit as what may simply be circumstantial misfortune on Charles Allen Lechmere’s part - unless, of course, what you’re really suggesting is that there were two serial killers prowling the streets of Whitechapel in 1888 who shared remarkably similar MOs?
One further aspect that weighs against your argumentation re: Lechmere is, I think, the language used to describe the encounter between him and Robert Paul in Buck’s Row. The latter said to the newspapers that Lechmere was standing ‘where the woman was’, but was more precise in the inquiry in describing him as standing ‘in the middle of the road’. Since “where the woman was” can also mean *adjacent* but not immediately *next* to (i.e., his location out in the middle of the road was perpendicular to where her body was lying), the vagary of this contradiction is important. I would therefore suggest that additional weight has to be given to his inquiry testimony rather than his newspaper report as he would have been sworn under oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at the former.
** Possibly misidentified. As you’re no doubt aware, Nathan Kaminsky was Martin Fido’s preferred candidate. I tend to agree with Fido that he’s the most likely candidate and that Scotland Yard did, in actual fact, get their man.
Edit: Again, I've started to change my mind on this. You've done a very good job of explaining these counter-arguments away as being in the category of "possible, but implausible."
Really it all depends on how long he was standing over Mary Nichols before the other man arrived. That's so essential. And I don't think we can figure that out.
@silverstuff182
Well we KNOW he was there longer than he said he was, otherwise Paul would have seen and heard him walking along Bucks Row just ahead of him. He didnt.
Enjoyable discussion.
At this point I’m convinced Mr. Edward Stow is Jack The Ripper.
The quote of $64,000 dollar question stems from the TV game show sale of the century.
Thankyou 💛 💛
The City/East End area is the most fascinating part of London in many ways, including the JTR mystery.
So much speculation on him there’s no way he’s the ripper
Unlike every other suspect, Lechmere can actually be placed at a crime scene by someone else, lingering alone and acting suspiciously right next to the body of one of the victims at or near the time of death and with nobody else in sight or sound. He's unique.
I haven't seen any convincing evidence Lechmere is guilty I must say. I mean if she was killed somewhere else and then left in that archway then he hardly had the means or opportunity. If she had been strangled it would have taken a few minutes and there may have been some screams from the woman. Finally where had Lechmere concealed the knife?
Totes the ripper
Thank you for making this video together with Edward Stow. You have cleared up some details I have been getting wrong and settled my previous misconceptions. I still think Lechmere is an interesting possibility, even likely, but there’s no way to tell for certain. It definitely makes a difference, for example, that Robert Paul lowered the skirt of “Polly” Nichols from her hip down to her knee, presumably to give her more dignity. The abdominal wounds were certainly covered. If Lechmere was the killer, he might have covered her wounds before Paul or anybody else could notice them. But why wouldn’t he lower the skirt as well? Clearly he hadn’t got to that part yet. But if I were this particular killer, and someone was about to discover me in the midst of my horrible crime, I would have covered up absolutely everything, even the parts I had not yet got to, because subconsciously I am already there, because I planned to do it. Anyways, great detective work. Understanding history and true crime can be very similar skills.
Maybe he just didn't have the time to do so before Paul was closer.
I also think that Lechmere didn't have enough time to pull the skirt fully down because of Paul hot on he's tail. I believe he had just enough time to pull and hide the tell tail wounds because it could have turned into a stop and search murder scene. The less time seen beside Pollys dead body was crucial timing for Lechmere. He hid lied and was overlooked like a clever cunning narcissist psychopathic serial killer.
Susan Clapp
Yes, assuming Lechmere was the killer, he wanted to step back from the body and not have Paul see him poking around at it. He didn't have much time.
Lechmere obviously only had time to pull it down partly. If it wasn't Lechmere who killed her then why would the murderer bother pulling it down somewhat? He would have just left it pulled up surely
If he pulled her skirt down further, it might have exposed her near decapitation. Did you ever think of that? It was obviously covered, just like her abdominal wounds.
Edward has done amazing research on this case! Considering this subject is an armchair hobby.
When I first went there in the late 80s The Roebuck pub was still there and right opposite the murder site, Essex Wharf, was still there although very dilapidated. There was a watchman in Essex Wharf who didn't hear anything. Essex wharf was a red brick warehouse and it's name was on the front of the building in ornate Victorian writing.
In the 2nd world war my grandfather supplied west end restaurants and hotels with horsemeat which was apparently re sold as beef steak to their well to do clientele.
Sounds very only fools and horses
Have there been any handwriting analysis studies done on Lechmere's handwriting and any of the suspected genuine ripper letters? I can't seem to find anything on it.
Interesting thoughts on Lechmere ... a bit too many odd anecdotes for my taste though
Ed should write a book documenting his research and illuminating Holmgren's rather sparsely outline.
Lechmere's reason/excuse for going over to Polly seems odd. If he really thought it was a large (human body bulk in size) tarpaulin, then what? Did he plan to struggle with it and carry it all the way to work, and why would he? Pickfords had lots of them. Did he plan on taking it straight home, thus making himself a good 20 minutes late for work? Did he want to have a look at it for picking up later on his way back from work? Doubtful it'd still be there if it was any good.
None of the above reasons make sense.
On top of that, why did Lechmere linger after he'd seen it was a woman lying there and not a tarpaulin? There were no wounds visible, no blood noticeable. If we accept what we've all read about Whitechapel in the 1880s, people sleeping rough, drunkards, down and outs would have been a fairly common, even mundane, sight especially at that time of the morning. What was so special about Polly that enticed Lechmere to linger around instead of just shrugging and walking straight on to work?
I’ve answered this query of yours before. Do you know the dictionary definition of a ‘Tarpaulin’, do you know what it's used for? I’ll save you some time, it’s used to cover up things, that would have been Lechmere’s curiosity in approaching it. He might have thought there could be something of value underneath to steal. OK? I hope I don’t see you raise this comment again, otherwise you’ll have to be another member of the ’Lechmere clique’ whose comments I no longer read and totally ignore.
😂 Oh dear.
1. Nobody would leave anything of value under a tarp on the STREET side of the yard. Anything of value left under a tarp left in that location would be behind the yard doors. Sigh.
2. A typical female body is quite shallow in depth. What on earth could Lechmere think was underneath such a low 'rise' ? Planks of wood? Was he going to lug them to work too?
Ive not read anywhere that Lechmere went over to this 'tarpaulin' to see what treasures lay underneath. I have not read anywhere that Lechmere said he went over to a tarpaulin that looked like it was covering goods.
I see you forgot to address why instead of lingering around Lechmere didn't just shrug and move on when he saw it was a woman (that he didn't know had been killed or even been attacked). Such a sight would not be uncommon for those days and that time of the morning.
"another member of the ’Lechmere clique'"
As opposed to the 'anti Lechmere clique'? You know, those few same posters who strangely never seem to obsessively argue against any other suspects..... suspects who are far more illogical than Lech.
Odd that isn't it?
@@lyndoncmp5751 What on earth could be under the tarpaulin? I've heard it all now.. Some of the theories do make me laugh 😄
Susan Clapp,
Exactly. A tarpaulin covering something only a body depth in height can't be covering much. All I've ever read is that Lechmere was interested in the tarpaulin itself yet Pickfords had lots of them.
I wonder if the description of the touching or Mary Ann Nichols was so heavily discussed as they didn't know she was dead, when the others clearly were?
Blooming ace !
48:41 Valance Rd, is that we’re the Krays lived? If so, a lot of history there. Along with Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky in a meeting either in that old building at the crime scene, or one no longer there knocked down. A lot of blood has been shed that all originated from that very small area.
Edit 1:03:49 well, I was right about those, but there’s quite a bit more.
Yes, and there is actually footage of the road & inside their house just before it was demolished - search " The Krays Home - 178 Vallance Road just before demolition"
@@hellooohowareudoing cheers
Just had a thought whilst watching this. I wonder if Mrs Letchmere left a will stating in no uncertain circumstance is she to be 'buried next to him, the weirdo' or words to that effect and the effort WAS made to ensure she was laid to rest no where near him. You just don't know what goes on behind closed doors. This is so fascinating. thank you for your efforts.
I wouldn't be surprised, not one bit. 😅🤣😂
Lechmere died in December 1920 and left a substantial estate of £12k (worth £700k adjusting for inflation). He was buried in an unmarked grave which might indicate what Mrs. Lechmere thought of him.
@@michaelwilliams3232 On top of that, somewhere else I heard he was buried in a pauper's grave. So she wasn't willing to spend any money on burying him either.
Interesting thought. Maybe she had suspicions.
Very interesting indeed. Especially the part around Mile End Gate. I wonder if that waste ground is the place depicted in the illustration of Wat Tyler about to parley with the King and be murdered. The case against Letchmere seems paper thin, but the timings of the walk towards the body, the corners and line of sight would stand out as a "Hmmmn" immediately. With the lucrative potential, I'm sure other new suspects will be revealed in time. That is not intended as a sleight on those proffering a new angle. It would be interesting to see a summary of the main contenders, and the strength or otherwise of the suspicion of each. Many thanks, best wishes.
A summary of the main contenders? Alright: Charles Lechmere. The case you describe as "paper thin" was described by Kings counsel James Scobie as enough to warrant modern day trial that suggests guilt.
Enoyed this documentary the most out of all the ones i ve seen on the ripper
I only have one question about the murder that Lechmere was seen and found by. Was it a one way in/ one way out road allie? And sry ive been drinking watching all your videos so sry if my speeling is off a lil bit
There is no case for the prosecution if your videos are anything to go by.
Interestingly, KC James Scobie was of the exact opposite meaning when he wqs asked about it. He said that there was a prioma faciae case suggesting guilt, and added that a jurynwould not like the carman one bit. But you are prehaps better suited to make calls about matters legal? It is hard to say for me, since ”Concreteowl” is not a name I recognize from the courtrooms.
It was interesting to be taken on a tour of the area even though so much has disappeared and changed but apart from analysis of the newspaper reports and insights into Paul's character is there any motive for Lechmere to have committed this crime or any of the others?
Love the mile end/Whitechapel history, my maternal ancestors lived there in the mid 1800's up till the early mid 1940's. Would like to get hold of a street map from the 1880's as I have the address'
Edward Stow has pinpointed the most relevant of all Ripper suspects. But prior to beginning his reign of terror, what was Lechmere doing? All serial killers show the signs of their psychopathy from an early age. Does Edward have any knowledge of early life?
Ed thinks he was also the Thames Torso killer.
His first murder may have been that of Harriet Buswell in 1872. The case is unsolved and she was murdered in a similar way to the Ripper victims.
Usually when people call 911 they keep up hope that the person they have found is still alive even if they have been shot in the head and are stone dead. They say thing such as "I don't know, he seems unconditional". And stuff like that keeping up hope. Telling the 1st responders that "she is dead" is a bit suspicious. Usually only happens with planned murders or when you have really intended to kill. But maybe that's more for when people close to you die idk like family members and such. Maybe it's more common to be dismissive and accept death for strangers.
"if it wasn't Lechmere then he missed it by a minute" BRILLIANT. SPOT ON why Lechmere is #1 suspect. ANY other person walking in Bucks Row at the time would have been HEARD by Robert Paul, otherwise that's the unluckiest minute for Polly Nichols ever.
Yeah... Once the timings and coincidences start piling up, it all seems to be a wee bit too much of a stretch to imagine that it's a coincidence. I know this is subjective, but my father was a detective and habitually allergic to coincidences. I reckon he would have said it all adds up to a person of interest -- at the very least, the police would work backwards from there nowadays when conducting their investigation. At this stage of the game, I would say the onus is on the anti-Lechmere brigade to prove his innocence...
Oh, please.
We only know he missed this one murder by a minute. Who knows if he walked by the other murder sites at the exact time. Its just a wild guess based on his work schedule and nothing else.
@@feliscorax Timings in the 1880s were plus or minus 15 minutes, be it witness, police or newspapers reports. That's why confusing accounts and reports of times could never be used to convict anybody in a court of law...
@obd3256
We KNOW he walked right past where Annie Chapman was later killed.
We KNOW another, slightly quicker, route was very close to where Tabram was killed.
We KNOW his mother and daughter lived just around the corner from where Liz Stride was killed.
Thats a fair amount of coincidences, if that's all they are.
@@lyndoncmp5751 So what was his motivation and why did he just stop?
Hi I love the channel, I was wondering is it at all possible Robert Paul was Jack the ripper?
Hi Tony. Glad you like the channel. Yes, there have been suggestions that Robert Paul may have carried out the murder.
Yes, it is possible. Many things are. It is possible that Druitt, Kosminski and Levy carried out the murders together too. But the more pertinent question to ask is whether it is in any way likely that Robert Paul was the killer. And on that question, the answer is no.
@@christerholmgren335 could Robert Paul do the murder, go home and change then leave again for work what makes you sure he wasnt involved just asking i dont do arguing lol.
....He would make a very very weak candidate, but yes .
@@tonycomiskey5640 This is the thing, nobody can ever know for sure. I'll still lean Cohen but again no way to know for certain
such a shame when they tear down these beautiful Cemetaries , they are part of history , lost forever ...