Was Kosminski Jack the Ripper?
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In this episode Edward Stow examines the case against Aaron Kosminski - and at the same time the more general 'Anderson Jewish Suspect' with alternative names proposed for that individual such as David Cohen. All the locations associated with Kosminski are visited (except those in Poland!)
I have leant on previous research undertaken by Martin Fido, Philip Sugden, Stewart Evans, Robert House, Adam Wood and others.
This film details the similar police case against Michael Ostrog:
• Jack the Ripper Police...
This was about as comprehensive a deconstruction of a case against as it’s possible to conceive, Mr. Stow. I used to think Aaron Kosminski a viable suspect - not anymore. Excellent research and very cogently argued.
Thank you
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Always a pleasure.
It’s ironic his Andersons book came out in 1910 when Lechmere was still alive, I wander if he ever saw it or even read it, if he did he probably laughed inside.
Yes, never thought of that
If we can't even identify the correct Kosminski there's no way we can attribute the murders to him.
Yes, and it was a convenient patsy to blame somebody in an asylum. No more than that.
Makes my month when House of Lechmere uploads! 👏 Many thanks and I look forward to watching 🤗🙌
Happy to hear that!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Great work and I look forward to the next one 👍
Mr. Stow I think many of us look forward to your content eagerly.
Greetings from across the pond!
Extremely interesting , liked and subscribed , thank you.
Thank you all!
Your knowledge and attention to detail is amazing.
I can’t recall ever hearing the name ‘Sadler’ before!
Thank you very much!
Top notch stuff as always Mr. Stow. Keep it coming!
Thanks, will do!
no one suspected Lechmere because he was normal and i suspect he kept killing
Thousands of other "normal" people there at the time too.
Where any of them found standing next to a freshly slain corpse that showed signs that the culprit had been disturbed?
@@leejames1792Who were the thousands of people seen standing around Polly Nichols just killed dead body in Bucks Row? Answers on a postage stamp please.
Thank you for another great video Edward can't wait for the next one
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic video once again can we applaud Ed on his incredible work and time he puts in to these videos always fascinating and so well put together!
Thank you
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! KEEP UPLOADING THEY ARE SO NICE! Now for real, you are the only person I know that keeps bringing new questions to this subject the others are just asking the same questions for no reason. It's not like they are going to ever solve the case by doing the same things over again.
Thank you! Will do!
Love the snark mr.Stow! One day and one night to investigate six murders lol! Outstanding work as usual!
Ha - yes! Actually only half of one night!
Tony Blair repeated winston churchills words when he said
" kill one man you are a villian, kill a milion and you are a hero "
Stalin's quote "A single death is a tragedy a million deaths a statistic"
The "homicidal maniac" who stands out from the crowd and kills himself out of self-loathing is a very Victorian caricature that has nothing to do with real serial killers. They are experts at seeming perfectly normal and take huge amounts of pride and joy in their acts. They never take their own lives, always give up without a struggle when caught, and always brag to anyone who will listen about every nasty detail. None of them ever really stops until he physically can't do it anymore. Some start up again years or decades after seeming to stop. They are true psychopaths who consider only their own pleasure and feel no guilt or empathy.
Jack might have moved elsewhere, died, or been otherwise stopped, but he certainly didn't end himself in a satisfying little morality play like some Victorian version of a Shakespeare character.
I believe jack was calm, cool, calculating, and intelligent. He was not mad just bad!
I believe that he was disorganized, reckless, and probably endowed with nothing more remarkable than a low animal cunning.
A cool and calculating person would never have risked to kill Stride and Chapman and probably also Eddowes and Nichols where JTR did. He only depended on luck to get away from the murdered Chapman and during the Stride murder he was probably even witnessed by two people. It was never in his hands to get away, he just took a chance and had tremendous luck. He did not even care to be discovered, otherwise he would not have risked those murders in first place. I don't say that JTR was totally insane, but I also don't think he was as normal as many think today. He was simply a slave of his drives when he was doing what he was doing and afterwards and in between he maybe functioned reasonably, like many people.
@@bendavies8881 Tend to agree.
@FrankMcCloud
We can argue he was definitely a cool and calculating customer to work out how much time he had in Mitre Square between police beats, and he was cool and clever enough to get the job done on time.
Little risk in the back yard of Hanbury Street in the dark when people were asleep in bed.
I don't think Schwartz saw JTR. He didn't even see Stride being murdered. JTR wouldn't have pulled a victim onto the street in full view of others and then shout at one of them. What Schwartz saw was likely nothing more than a drunk being approached by a lady of the night hawking herself and he took offence and reacted with violence. I dare say that must have been a frequent occurrence.
@@lyndoncmp5751 It seems very probable to me too that he always knew exactly the routes and time schedules of the policemen. Though it can't be totally excluded that he was simply extremely lucky.
I think the risk in Hanbury Street was tremendous. Not to meet police, but one of the many tenants who lived in the building and particularly were already awake preparing for work. And even if they were sleeping, it could have easily been that a scream of the victim or just some noises could have woken up some. And most of all, he was in a trap in this backyard, he could not have escaped had someone come and there was no way for him to exclude this possibility, so this was sheer luck in the end. He could also not have been sure to not be seen when escaping from there, when stepping through the corridor and out of the door.
As for Schwartz I think that the time frame was very narrow. Like in Bucks Row. Only a few minutes maybe and here the guy beating the woman would have needed to escape quickly while JTR must have already been around the corner. And the place was a very risky one too. Diemschütz could have arrived at any time and so could have someone left the building at any time.
The background information about the London police superiors on the case is totally fascinating. Rather than assuming they were experienced and knowledgeable cops, THOL has once again provided superb research that breaks these suppositions down. All of this still leaves Charles Lechmere as the strongest suspect IMO. Great video Mr Stow!
Agreed. Can't wait for Blomer to see this video 😂🤣
Indeed. How many times are we told by the Kosminski supporters that the bigwigs knew what they were doing and thus can't have been wrong? That's been their mantra.
The sad reality the upper police hierarchy were amateur buffoons.
Blomer is two faced. In one comment he once argued he doesn't rule out Lechmere from being a suspect... but then goes on to write books on how Lechmere wasn't a suspect. Wish the man would make up he's mind.
Hey Cat! in all fairness to Blomer, he’s trying to sell his crappy books and he can’t have the case being solved! lol
Always happy when a new video comes out to watch.
This is what I like about your content, Edward, and your friend Christer Holmgren's: you not only put forth the evidence for Lechmere's guilt, you take pains to explain *why* the police missed him in the first place. With every other suspect, people are grasping at straws now, just as Swanson and Anderson were back then. That "it was the crazy Jewish immigrant from Poland" remains the most "mainstream" theory on the Ripper's identity is just mind-boggling to me.
You have a real career as a researcher! Well done!!
Outstanding approach to researching this subject. Exceptional 👏!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great stuff and as always a real treat to listen to your research regarding the darker side of social and criminal history.
Thanks
Some of the most compelling to-date I must watch again t y.
And again...
Absolutely love your attention to detail regarding facts. Liked & Subscribed, though I’m not convinced about your suspect……yet.
Much appreciated!
Excellent video. Also love how the guy uses a knife to point at the maps. Nice touch!
Thank you for visiting the locations and providing a "just the facts," style of narration. You are so good at this, should you conclude with your investigations, and you want to continue this style of reporting, please consider going through the Annotated Sherlock Holmes and discuss the real cases that inspired many of the Sherlock Holmes stories, perhaps in a second channel. I don't know if it's of interest to you, but even a tour of all the stories, inspired by true crime or not, would be extremely entertaining for a very large audience and you have the style of delivery that would make it thoroughly enjoyable.
Nice idea, but a hell of a lot of work for somebody not familiar with that topic. I don't know if Ed is or isn't but I think he has his hands full with the Jack The Ripper topic still.
With 30 years of forensic psychiatric nursing experience I agree completely that while any one of the frenzied attacks could have been the result of someone in the depths of psychosis a series of such murders would suggest the complete opposite! To suggest someone with a severe disabling mental illness would then only murder during periods of mental stability when they would need to be a sadistic sexual psychopath is highly unlikely and I can think of no such cases.
Yes!
Another excellent video Ed.
Glad you enjoyed it
It's amazing to me with all the notable "Ripperologists" out there, none of them agree on any suspect. I have to admit that's part of the reason I find all the research so interesting.
Aaron was JACK.
@@freddyfurrah3789No.
It’s because they alll want to be right.
@@freddyfurrah3789Evidence?
Great video Edward as always 👍🇮🇪
Thanks 👍
Mary Kelly would have known Jack the Ripper. Letting him into her house ? I don't think she would have let just anyone into her house. They would have had to look a person of means at least.
She could probably charge more for that ! Probably all it boils down to I’m afraid
@@mikepotts2470she had literally asked Barnett to read her reports of the murders and was on her guard. No chance she brings a Jewish lunatic into millers court
It would be interesting to investigate the connection. In a previous video I believe it was suggested that Lechmere could have known Kelly.
I was thinking about this the other day. It's not certain that Kelly knew the murderer. It is possible. She was heard singing into the night. This implies being drunk - especially as a lot of people were almost continually drunk back then. A neighbour heard someone shout / cry murder. But this is not the only ripper crime scene where that occurred. But most tellingly, that window beside the door was broken. The murderer could of removed the rag, peered in to see Kelly laying on the bed, opened the door that was just a couple of feet from the window, whereupon Kelly might of heard something or felt a breeze and called out just as she was silenced.
But it is of course all pure hypothesis.
@awotnot
Hmmmm but why would JTR be going around peering through windows for victims though? His method was to find them on the streets, and plenty of women were still on the streets. There was a long gap between Eddowes and Kelly and people's guards had relaxed a bit.
JTR wouldn't have needed to become a peeping tom. I suspect he was taken to Kelly's abode, not randomly spied on it. UNLESS of course he knew Kelly and where she lived so planned it out beforehand. Then your theory could be correct.
Either way, Kelly isn't bringing somebody like Kosminski home.
Wow what an excellent, thorough and damning riposte to the entire Kosminski theory. I've not seen a more exhaustive video on Kosminski. Everyone who favours Kosminski must watch this and take great heed. I'll have to watch it again to take it all in. Well done to you Ed. Brilliant.
What I find incredible is the 'it would have been of no public benefit to reveal the identity of the killer' spiel. Seriously? No benefit for the public to know the most famous serial killer ever? How convenient of an excuse that was.
"They don't need to know so we don't need to tell them!". Oh my goodness 😂.
If they really knew they would have shouted it from the rooftops
@@thehouseoflechmere9407
They certainly would have done, if only to protect their own police reputation...."we got our man, here he is, this is his name" etc.
What exactly is it you feel is a riposte here?
I tend to favor Kosminski as a suspect, but i fail to see how exactly this is supposed to really attack that position.
But maybe you can tell me, what argument here you find particularly strong?
@@jannickfranck3864
Firstly I think it's clear to anyone familiar with serial killer cases through history that an outwardly abnormal person like Kosminski is absolutely not logically viable as Jack The Ripper.
Secondly it's blindingly obvious that the police didn't have a clue who the Ripper was or the type of person he was so their opinions are worthless and based on nothing but the prevailing mindset of the time, which we know today were outdated and misguided.
Thirdly, Jack The Ripper wouldn't have been placed in Colney Hatch and Leavesden. The most infamous, brutal and terrifying killer of the times in Colney Hatch and Leavesden? No. Just no. The police bigwigs were merely trying to save the reputation of their profession. Nothing more.
@jannickfranck3864
My reply seems to have disappeared. At least, I can't see it.
It will be interesting to see what students of Kosminsky will think of your efforts Ed. Its refreshing to have research such as this and, hopefully, it will lead to a better understanding of not only Kosminsky, but Ripperology. Detective William Thich (who I have researched in depth) openly reported that the police had absolutely no idea who the Ripper was. Thick was in close contact with Abberline both before and after the Whitechapel murders and took part in many houses to house enquiries.
I fear the response will be about Lechmere, instead of any attempt to address the problems with the Kosminski theory. That is my previous experience.
Thick is an interesting character - in my view a good, on the ground copper, doing what was necessary to prevent, detect and solve 'normal' crime in the East End.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Kosminski is indeed a popular suspect, have you any plans to do some of the other popular suspects such as Jacob Levy, Joseph Barnett, William Henry Bury, Joseph Barnett, George Hutchinson or Francis Thompson.
@@almklit
Yes!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Great, they all interest me to some degree (and that includes Lechmere) but my personal take is we simply cannot prove who JtR was, so I take the view I favour no one suspect over any other reasoned and reseached suspect. though I guess there are some that could be marked suffiently unlkely.
Isn’t Kosminski the current Luton town fc goalkeeper?
Just noticed this one Edward, thank you very much 👍
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42:30 “ in the Victorian period, mental illness and serial killing were both poorly understood”
That sums up the case against Kosminski
Love your work mate.
Much appreciated
My granddad was told by detective Abberline that Jack the ripper was Kosminski. He told him he didn't think Liz Stride was a victim of the ripper and said a woman who had been chopped up had been pulled out the Thames before the murders. That's why they closed the case after Mary Kelly was killed.
My granddad and his brother had been raised in the workhouse in Hounslow, grandad was in the WW1as a sniper. Great uncle Tom was a bare knuckle fighter who would go round the pubs of London fighting. Abberline was a boozer. He said he personally and another policeman had taken kosminski to Colney Hatch asylum aftermary kellys murder. Abberline said the police fucked up. They were watching kosminski but he managed to kill again that's when it was decided to commit him to an asylum.
I've thought about this overwhelming years.i think abberline was telling most of the truth but not quite all of it. Abberline was adrunk I think him saying they had messed up was not totally the truth. I think the cops did indeed get Jack the ripper into custody and I think they had nothing on him unless he confessed so they gave him a beating and killed him. That's why they knew to close the case and seal it.
But that's just my take on it. My grandmother wouldn't believe what granddad told her: she was a republican and hated the royal family, she wouldn't have it that one of them wasn't involved and thats why it was shut, and hushed up. I belive granddad.
You should write that up and sell the story
Sorry to disagree. I believe granddads story. But for I believe Abbeline? Not so much. I think the one thing everyone can be sure of is the police closed and sealed the case pretty soon after the last accepted murder. So they had to have known pretty conclusively that the murder spree was over. Serial killers are notoriously hard to catch, and much harder to prove it. They couldn't even tell animal blood from human at the time. So I think they got him and, accidently or otherwise, killed him. Kosminski or not, they knew. I always found it funny that my granddad said abberline, falling down drunk had said they fucked up. That's something police don't like to admit. To my mind, that is the clincher. They beat him to get a confession and he died of it and they hushed it up. How far up the cover up went, who knows. But you seem to be a researcher, it would be interesting to see if anyone died in police custody at the time, or who was arrested if possible. It might be a lead worth investigating.
@saydvoncripps
The case was not closed for years as far as I know. It was still ongoing and later murders such as Alice McKenzie were thought of as Ripper murders at the time.
The case wasn't officially closed until 1892.
@@saydvoncripps I suspect the case was closed in 1892 because
1 There had been no obvious series of killings that the media tied to JTR for several years so the pressure was off. One off crimes that might be tied to him could be explained away as unrelated.
2 The police had come up with an internal theory or narrative(suicide; committed to an asylum) that satisfied the higher ups simply so that they could close the case and get away with it. In other words the top was very receptive to the idea of closing the case. And thus was duly supplied.
3 Policing is primarily about resource allocation and the higher ups love it when they can close a case and move those resources elsewhere. If it cant be solved then the next best thing is a plausible reason to suppose that there is closure (ie there wont be any more of this particular murder series).
4 The key variable in all of this is media/public/political pressure. Cos that affects the higher ups the most. Once the hue and cry died down the pressure was to close the case one way or another. And move on.
And so they did.....the mcnaugtan memorandum is not a summary of a police investigation. Its a cover yer arse political document that explains why the case was close.
Why would they take a suspect believed to be JTR to a common workhouse and not Broadmoor ? He must surely have been considered very dangerous?
Yes exactly
Hehe excellent point. Well played.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 are you still gonna write a book?
@@thedisabledwelshman9266
Yes!
That was very well presented Good Sir
Thank you kindly
BRILLIANT! Loved this! And now it puts to rest, in my mind, that Aaron Kosminski was Jack The Ripper.
Well, I was settled on kosminsky being the ripper until watching this very well done presentation.
Good!
In a word, No. One of many police suspects with not a single shread of evidence against him. The true killer will never be known.
While recovering from a touch of gout, I just watched this episode. Thanks, Edward I found it most informative. For me his medical history is at odds with what appears to be a cool, calculating, yet deranged person. It is clear he had a plan - for example, to get no obvious blood on him; to kill in such a way that allows this. And if that did not work, he was cool enough to evade capture and clean himself up. So this for me does not fit a deranged person - a person that would most likely be caught covered in blood. So for me, I hate to say it, the killer was a predator - bent on his twisted mission - whatever that was. Anyway, thanks for the episode.
And how is that gout feeling now?
@@Cami-kd4zl Thanks for asking. Took a few days, but came good. find fresh pineapple helps.
You spelled his name wrong although it is literally in your thumbnail?
Definitely a lot of information.
Would you make more of an impact by organizing the presentation of the information?
Great research and analysis. It does seem like the police at the time may have been overly concerned in looking for someone who had specific traits and profile. Which ultimately may have been to the detriment of the investigation.
All the other keyboard ripperologists who are too lazy or perhaps in capable of doing this sort of film work are very jealous of Mr Stows work...well to be precise they are angry that he has reached millions of viewers and they almost all agree with his view.
Yes it's a worry for them.
This particular film has led to some nutty responses
@rdmountford3132 Totally agree.
A new THoL video = a great start to the weekend! 😃
Did the police house-to-house search area reach as far as 22 Doveton Street? If so, I suppose they will have quickly moved on and not questioned the "normal, respectable, hardworking, English family man" who was head of that household.
No I provided a map of the search area which was the western half of Whitechapel and the Southern half of Spitalfields North of Whitechapel Road
@thehouseoflechmere9407 Thanks, just been back and had a look.
Excellent work sir. While Kosminski is the "favorite" suspect theres too much about him that makes him unlikely to be JTR. Speaking from 25 yrs experience around criminals he just doesnt fit the crimes.
Nay, nay and thrice nay ! (ooh missus !)
Anderson had no previous experience of policing, and neither do I, so I think we’re both equally qualified and entitled to offer an opinion.
He personified all that was “bumbling and bureaucratic” about the Police hierarchy of the time (a description which was to be inherited by men orchestrating the slaughter of the first war).
In 1888 Kosminski fitted the bill but, as progress and knowledge are now revealing, it was the wrong bill.
Not the crazed maniac, but the individual who you might notice least.
Jack the Ripper “might” have been caught by chance by the “honest copper” on the beat but probably not by Andersons flimsy at best and, in my opinion, wide of the mark deductions.
A very thorough and entertaining film which torpedoes Anderson’s and Swansons theories and ultimately the Kosminski theory.
Great post. Nicely put.
Your research challenges given theories we are made to take for granted. This is brilliant in rigour and methodology. Thank you. The videos also provide visual details that enable the audience to appreciate the case you put to us.
Glad you like them!
Another very good video Edward.
I have never thought for one minute that it was Kosminski.
And your point about knowing the area just further strengthens the case for Lechmere .
Kosminski was not Jack the Ripper.
Charles Lechmere was Jack the Ripper.
I look forward to you backing up such firm statements with cast iron evidence, lets face it, we'll never know. i doubt Kosminski was Jack and nobody can 100% say, nor can anyone prove Lechmere did it.
@@leejames1792look forward to your absolute 100% proof that any suspect was the murderer? Untill then Lechmere's the best suspect we have.
@leejames1792
Out of interest, are you on other videos where people say Kosminski, Tumblety etc did it, asking them to back up their claim, or is it only Lechmere?
Thank you. Enjoyed very much.
Glad you enjoyed it
Of course, the big police bosses would have hated to go down in history as having completely and utterly failed on this case. Even if it was years after the murders, there had to be some saving of face. I think that's why Anderson wrote what he did.
Agree
Great video ed couldnt agree more. What does this say about the police not just in relation to kosminski but the investigation overall.thank you.
Praise indeed
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 praise indeed to who?
It says they didn't have a clue who the Ripper was, or even the type of person he was in his day to day life.
@@lyndoncmp5751 yes,i think they knew kosminski wasnt the ripper myself and made up a lot of nonsense later,which is the same as lying to me .thats the type of chaps that were running the investigation.
@@leslierock5005
Likely to try and absolve themselves from the fact they failed to catch him. "We got our man".
It’s almost unthinkable that JTR was some crazed lunatic, wild-eyed and foaming at the mouth. Whilst he was certainly abnormal, he had to have been able to offer at least a veneer of plausibility, to engage with his victims, persuade them to go with him and then, slip away unnoticed thereafter.
Exactly
Great stuff...Yes, Chiefs of Police and such love to PIN a suspect not to admit defeat! Still goes on ...a lot! .Really enjoy your work Sir. Thank You.
Was it true that the Kelly inquest was one of the shortest and if so Y
Yes one day
Just out of curiosity, but is the general concencus, that Anderson and Swanson were straight up lying, or do people generally think that there was in fact a witnessidentification of JtR, but Anderson had no reason to be as convinced as he was?
I don't think they were lying. I think they convinced themselves but wrongly
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Yes they had misguided beliefs, just as George Oldfield and co did in Yorkshire in the 1970s.
I think the trend at the top was increasingly anti-Jewish rhetoric and that fact alone swayed their racist mindsets. It had to be a Jew. Whilst another Jew had to conceal the truth because he did not want to implicate his Jewish brethren. I think both men batted the ball between one another and between them they concocted the narrative.
This is not say they were lying. Perhaps deluded would be a better word. They deluded themselves into thinking it must of been Kosminski because he was Jewish. Although I accept that I'm merely repeated Ed's words here.
Another great upload btw Ed.
Fascinating info.
I really like your jacket sir, and your videos!
Glad to hear it!
I put zero stock in the idea Jack the Ripper killed himself because of his crimes. Has that ever happened? Has there ever been a documented case of a serial killer committing suicide like that? They keep offending until caught.
It also seems unlikely he was a madman. The Ripper was unassuming enough to navigated the fairly crowded streets and convince prostitutes to step into alleys and yards with him. Im sure they were desperate but women would have absolutely been on guard. That said i wasnt there and didnt see Kosminski how insane was he? Gacy was insane but he managed to be a prolific worker and run several firms.
Yes, while Nichols was drunk and probably didn't care who she was with on Bucks Row, by the time we get to Annie Chapman I would have expected some caution about going with a strange foreign man into the back yard of 29 Hanbury Street because both Nichols and Tabram had recently happened.
Brilliant video as always Ed, lot of work gone into that mate Kosminski wasn’t responsible for the JTR murders simple as that
Gr8 Stuff Edward....Amazingly closed-minded were the Authorities,....Kosminski , Cohen & Kaminsky, maybe all of them the same person, not-likely to be JTR, as they didn't have their English Language Skills at a level where the Victims wud feel comfortable with them and go into an isolated place without being frightened of their appearance, as well....Kosminski was not dressed as a sailor, so the women wud have been wary of those with an accent that wasn't a sailor...More likely, JTR was someone the women had seen around the area before and did not feel threatened....If Kosminski murdered during lucid periods, highly unlikely that wud be the case, he wud have been caught by The Police who were everywhere when the murders occurred, as he wudn't have had escape plans, as U said, Edward........The Vigilance Groups about Whitechapel, like George Lusk's Committee, for sure wud have caught him, as well and I read Policemen were dressed as prostitutes to try and catch JTR, too.....Don't know how true that was, but the point is, JTR wud have been caught near a victim, if the perpetrator had a major mental illness...If any of the Letters to Police from JTR were written and sent by Kosminski, I doubt that he wud be able to do that with any plan.. The From Hell Letter, is likely to be the only one that is genuine and is not signed JTR, just 'catch me when U can Mishter Lusk', as it was sent to him not the Police....Kosminski and the DNA evidence has been rejected and the reality is Kosminski wudn't have been roaming the streets in Whitechapel, not knowing where he was and then murdering the women...The Beat Policemen wud have seen him and detained him, but this never happened...Cheers fm Damo🤔👍
Exactly
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Keep 'em coming, Edward....Cheers fm Damo😊👏
Can you do a vid of Frances Cole?
Yes in due course!
One of the most interesting parts in this video comes at 37:00 -- that people were supposed to give their real name in legal matters. It is obvious, of course, despite blabber from other Ripperologists, and Lechmere didn't do it. Another interesting question is this: _Why_ did Victorians so often hide themselves behind false names? In Whitechapel, it seems as almost everyone did it, even in their everyday lives.
The people we meet in.the Ripper tale aren't typical Victorians. They are often people from the bottom level of society among whom alternative names are more common. Lechmere wasn't from that class.
Thank you! I was just going to add some comment about Charles Cross, I mean Lechmere.
It's worthwhile to remember the ripper very probably woulda looked very plain , like serial killers do . "Is that him ?! " No way ?? , really?" would have been the likely response on his capture
" The police didn't understand serial killers back then
They were looking for overtly crazy people. The myth took over and helped hide him. I do believe it was lechmere aka cross and he should have been caught after nicholls or at least ruled out and interrogated . He cpuldnt believe his luck
None of the three men I believe are actually Jack the ripper and certainly Michael ostrig he was 4 too old and druitt is also not Jack the ripper and the only evidence that he might have been was his suicide directly after the murders. He did leave a suicide note and said that he done that because he believed he was going insane like his mother. He never mentioned the murders and never said he was Jack the ripper or at the time they called him the Whitechapel murderer. And all they say is kosminsky I don't believe they ever said Aaron kosminski and he was not the only kozminski in the area. Also they said kosminski had homicidal tendencies and hatred of women particularly prostitutes. Neither which I have found any record describes Aaron kosminski. There is also a man with the alias David Cohen who was said to have the last name of kosminski
Does anyone else ever get the idea that after 136 years, Edward and Christer are the only two people who've actually put any *real* research into this?
That is a nonsense statement, plenty of experts on this case over the years, totally disrespectful.
@@leejames1792 "Totally disrespectful" to whom exactly? You?
Think it was Michael Connor that picked up on Lechmere then dropped it because he was getting frenzied attacks from deniers. Edward and Christer certainly did pick up on it and bought Lechmere to where he is at today. Others to worried about getting abuse from other so called Ripperologist who cling on for dear life to their suspects.
I believe many people have put forth suspects they genuinely believe in and have done some great research. However, I believe Mr. Stow and Christer have put forth the most plausible version, with all due respect to their predecessors.
@@leejames1792Seems you are the one who is disrespectful. You should respect other people's suspects. You always have the choice to leave the room and shut the door behind you. Maybe this channel is a bit to sensitive for you.
He was supposed to be a simple man who could not read and write properly but I ended up being buried in a beautiful graveyard something don't add up😅😅😮
something you may have missed is the firm Kerne and Tong i believe tea importers sites inBucks Roe and Miter Square .It gives me the impression something was going on .As pollicemen say theres no such thing as coincident ttfn&ty
If there is no such thibg as coincidences, we can be certain that Lechmere was the killer - the amount of coincidences one needs to swallow for him not to be the Ripper is astounding.
Another thought..why does hardly anyone mention the coins left at one murder scene?
Patiently waiting for Edward to rip apart the history chanels jack the ripper video on tumblety
I will do a film on Tumblety - an interesting character but zero chance of him being Jack the Ripper!
It's possible they may have been so convinced of Kosminski's guilt that collectively they were inadvertently fitting him up for these crimes. I am not saying it's not Kosminski but he could also be innocent we will never know to be honest. It would be interesting to observe what everyone would think if the name Lechmere was replaced by Kosminski, in the memorandum, how conclusive that would be for the Lechmere theory. I sometimes wonder if Sadler really did kill Coles and got away with it.
Collectively they didn't fit Kosminski up - only Swanson and Anderson believed it
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 That's i who I am referring to by 'they' Swanson and Anderson and yes I should have been more specific
Fact in detail, very good.
how about putting Anderson as the suspect
Sir Robert always said he knew who the ripper was........thanks for an informative video Edward
You are very welcome
Who ever it was, he was well protected by the Ruling Classes, much like Lucan was 80 years later. How else could they have got away with it? I can't believe policing back then was that clueless, they couldn't have solved it.
They were. Not clueless, they had lots of clues - but the wrong ones. They were looking - but in the wrong places. There was a stereotyical image of a mad foreigner, and that was who they looked for. Sadly, some do the same tnhing today, so we should never underestimate how people can get things wrong.
Will you be looking into Jacob Levy? His brother Joseph was a witness to seeing him.
That is a suggestion, not a fact. And they were not brothers, they were cousins, I believe.
I will look at jacob levy - including the unlikely unsubstantiated claims that Joseph saw and recognised Jacob.
No, unless he could write and spell in perfect English.
One of the most interesting documentaries on JTR. Much food for thought. Thank you for the video. From South Carolina. 😊😊😊
Thank you
@@thehouseoflechmere9407so much packed in. Most TH-cam channels would be at least double the length, with the same information, and a TV documentary would have to have 10 series of 8 episodes each, just for this one 50 min video.
I commend your commitment to the truth, and when something is ambiguous, your deductive reasoning is virtually beyond reproach, imo.
I can believe Kosminski was Jack the Ripper much more so than Charles Cross/Lechmere.
Hilarious. Not a jot of evidence for Kosminski and he doesn't fit the profile.
@@lyndoncmp5751 ton of evidence for him unlike the speculation and twisting of logic for Lechmere. Truth hurts.
@@TheIndependentLensYes. Truth does hurt.
So perhaps you can share this elusive truth?
You sound sure of it.
Logic dictates that you literally cannot be sure of anything at all if you cannot provide sound evidence. And you have provided none. ZILCH.
You even started out by stating "I believe"
This is murder case. Not a religious or theological "belief" case.
According to the book: The Crimes of Jack the Ripper: The Whitechapel Murders Re-examined by Paul Roland; one of the more plausible Ripper suspects was a mad syphilitic Jewish butcher named Jacob Levy who lived in Middlesex Street. Under closer examination the case against Levy is a compelling one and is detailed in the book.
I will do a film in Levy soon...
purebloodheretic yes great quote thankyou
Obviously many have said that at the end of the day it could be a person totally off the radar. I'm not sure if Edward is ex-police but I've always wanted to know that in an average solved case where a pool of suspects was originally featured, the rough percentage of instances where the final accused was in that original set of suspects.
Most murders are easily solved as they are domestics or at least perpetrated by someone known to the victim. Serial killers generally aren't known to the victim which causes difficulties in establishing a viable suspect... and I'm not ex police!
We will never know
its hard to belive that a simple lunatic was able to make such murders without any trace behind and nobody was able to indetify him even today, i mean someone who is not in his minds would probably make some mistake that would gave away his name. that fact that he was able to commite two murders in the same night without a mistake gives the picture of a very inteligente man that calulates everithing. also his goal was not just to kill his victimes but to complitly disembowel them and we and can see that the last victume was destroyed completly by him, i think that his goal was this, it was almost like a ritual, once he performed it he stopped. there is a theory that the real jack the ripper was a part in the illuminati, i know it sound stupid but the more i think about it and the evidence we have so far i actually belive that it might be true!
I watched GB news last night, and environ mental person came on and mentioned eyes wide shut? So I thought I should have watched it, but before I found it I came across an adult film,? It was clearly based on Jack the ripper? It started with a man wearing a dear stalker hat and a columbo style rain coat? At the end of the film, he had murdered6 people,but he used lipstick on the foreheads using the numbers 1 to 5 ,so what about 6 she was murdered later her real name actress name was Mary? There was a reference made to the Boston strangler ,who i think used lipstick in his crimes ? Now the rain coat Boston strangler,and hhHomes, come to mind also Tumble T,and maybrick ? Was this the American connection? The 5 re minds me of the Canonical 5 ,the dear stalker , and the name homes, leads me back to conan/ical 5, he was the author of sherlock HOMES, who was often seen wearing a dear stalker hat in the films ? So looking into Conan i think he was trained in Edinburgh as an eye specialist, thats were burk and hare came from the famous murderers, hanged for providing body parts for the trainee anatomy students,re: the London torso murders, i think you call them the Pinching Street torso murders ? Was hh homes a coroner in America 🇺🇸? Some of the body parts were found in MARY SHELLIES garden the AUTHOR OF FRANKENSTIEN ? And another body part in the foundations of new Scotland yard? The film was the playbirds ,I remember when I was young both of the main acters sadly died by their own hand? The adult 🎥 touched on demonic rituals and their was an interesting police connection again? The man who plays one of the police officers, was a presenter on thats life ester ranzen being the main presenter and a man called cyril ? Did ester set up child line, around the time SIR jimmy worked for the bbsea, SIR jimmy had his own show,i think thats were Margaret Thatcher asked if jim could fix it for her to become prime minister? On his grave stone it says it was good while it lasted? Someone else said that on big brother this year?obviously an innocent coincidence? Question: Did Margaret Thatcher give a knighthood to a personal protection officer? If so Why? The film also mentioned the treason law? I think SIR tony got rid of that when SIR kier was in charge of the justice system? The film also shows how people can be paid without any cost to them ? A horse race, the gentleman gives the person he needs to pay the number of a horse in a race ,this one being 14 the jockey wearing yellow and black racing colour's? They both place a bet and win, no money crossed hands and the only loser is the ordinary person who thought he was playing a game of chance? Watch Silver blaze its a sherlock Homes, staring Jeremy Brett? Please fact-check everything my opinions and any questions i have asked and you can answer for me greatly appreciated?
The David Cohen hypothesis would also necessitate that the police were not aware of him or his incarceration otherwise they’d have been well aware of his true identity ! Can’t have it both ways can they ?
Yes!
Fantastic research Ed, I do not understand how kosminski was suspected in the first place not a shred of anything resembling evidence. someone selling a book....how times have not changed hehe still If it weren't for the authors doing the hard yards we would never have known anything. Was kosminski found at the body of polly nicholls at the time of death ? No chance. Who was ? Charles was end of. Keep em coming Ed you are my favourite TH-cam channel
He was a suspect as a result of prejudice.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 That sums it up mate, in those days bluster and buff were taken as read
'Stein, 'witz, 'berg, and 'ski; every. single. time. Was there ever a serial killer who wasn't?
Jack the Ripper, probably.
I wish I had a dollar for everyone said to be Jack the Ripper.
Wunderbar !!👍
Either it was a cover up, incompetents, or they did not care, or all three, it's just politics like anywhere else back then and today...
They have milked this jack the ripper stuff for ages....what jack did is just a normal weekend in New Jersey
Its interesting, They can see in his murders where he improves either through practice or comfort level. But you can see this progression in each murder. Then it suddenly stops and never happens again. People like that don’t just stop. They may take a break for a while but then start up again. The assumption it was actually H.H. Holmes made sense in many ways. The murders in America stopped for a few Months at the same time Jack The Ripper started up. Then H.H. Holmes returns back to America around the time the Ripper murders stopped. But i believe they figured out it was just an incredible coincidence. So the Ripper murders suddenly stopping and not happening again looks more like who ever Jack was, got killed. Im guessing he was after another victim and this time wasn’t so lucky and for what ever reason, the person or persons who got the best of Jack, couldn’t report it to the police and dumped the body. But as we have seen over the decades, serial killers never stop. They improve, become more efficient and harder to detect. But suddenly stopping? I think something happened to Jack, maybe he got too comfortable and made a mistake like picking the wrong person to attack and lost. People were scared, watching out and paying more attention to their surroundings making picking a victim much more difficult and he would have needed to take riskier chances
Serial killers have stopped. Gary Ridgway, Dennis Rader, Joseph DeAngelo, Rex Heuermann etc. All of them killed far more people than Jack The Ripper.
We now know that serial killers do stop.
Jack The Ripper was most unlikely to have been an American who wouldn't have intimate knowledge of the area. There is a theory, supported by Edward, that further murders after 1888 may have been JTR's work. Plus other serial killers have stopped, as Ed pointed out. It's an old myth that they never stop. Some prominent ones have stopped.
Did you give up on Charles Cross? Read "They All Love Jack".
Do you mean Lechmere? No...
No
Without question, this video puts the final nail in this Kosminski nonsense. Another great one.
Yes, hopefully the Kosminski nonsense will disappear or at least become a very outdated theory.
why do they think the killer hated women? he was probably married with daughters
I think it’s outdated Victorian era rationale. Only 30 years prior to these murders, scientists were removing convicted, executed criminal’s brains and looking for abnormalities to indicate a murderous disposition.
And how are we ment to know from a grave site
Know what
Sherlock Holmes did it. Woman hater, master of disguises. And wearing a deerstalker.
Always happy to listen to videos and theories but for me Lechmere could be a suspect but it’s all suspicion and conjecture with his only involvement was to find a body. I don’t think Lechmere was the Ripper although you give much food for thought.
The best suspect I think is the Polish Jew Hyam Hyams. His physic fits the best description offered and he was hauled off (by the police ?) into an insane Asylum which explains the ending of the killings. He developed seizures and became increasingly violent after a fit and grew worse according to his wife hence the start of the killings. I wonder what she thought?! 😮
He wasn't physically capable and overt madmen are not serial killers
He didnt just find a body though. He was literally seen by someone else lingering alone and acting suspiciously right next to that body at or near the time of her death and with nobody else in sight or sound.
His work routes also correlate closely to the times and locations of Tabram and Chapman, while Stride was killed just around the corner from where his mother lived, and on a night he wouldn't have needed to get up for work the next morning and could quite feasibly have been visiting family in the close vicinity previous to the murder.
None of the locations and times rule him out. Quite the opposite.
@@lyndoncmp5751 When you discover something like a body in the street you may very well "linger" and act suspiciously for someone who is not confronted with it. Paul did not see him taking any actions on the body and Paul is the only witness at all. Obviously he never found Lechmere so suspicious that he would have thought him to have been the murderer. That Lechmere lived in the area and had known all the places and could have theoretically done all the murders does not make it in any way more probable that it was him because there were surely thousands of other "normal" men to whom this applied. I would never rule out Lechmere as a suspect; more than most other suspects, he can be connected to one murder scene at least, (like also Diemschütz, Schwartz, Hutchinson...) but as long as there is no evidence to concretely connect him to a second murder (scene), he will never be more than that.
@@FrankMcCloud
Davis and Diemschutz didn't linger when they found Chapman and Stride. They immediately went off to fetch people and raise the alarm. Nobody saw them hanging around right by the bodies. Lechmere didn't even wave to Paul and call him over. He sized him up and didnt even acknowledge Paul until Paul was right there. Very very odd.
We KNOW that Lechmere was hanging around at the body for longer than he said he was, otherwise Paul would have seen or heard him walking just ahead of him. I've been to the spot and tested how long it takes to cross over the street and look at the ground where Polly was. Less than 5 seconds. If that is ALL Lechmere did then there is no way Paul wouldn't have noticed Lechmere just up ahead of him on Bucks Row. Clearly Lechmere did more than just cross over the street and briefly look at the body before Paul came along.
Its not just that Lechmere lived in the area. It's also that he passed the very spot where Nichols was killed and at a similar time. This also applies to Chapman and Tabram (if we include her). His two routes to work passed by the locations of where Chapman and Tabram were killed. Again, at relevant times. Tabram was killed as late as 3.30 am and Chapman was killed at least two hours before 6.30.
Thats THREE victims killed in locations and at times closely linked to Lechmere's morning walks to work. There are literally no other suspects this can apply to.
Add in Stride being killed just round the corner from his mother, on a night he didn't have to get up for work the next morning and it all becomes very very suspicious.
Schwartz, Hutchinson etc cannot be linked to Nichols, Chapman etc. Lechmere can be linked to FOUR of them. We can add in Kelly and Eddowes at a stretch.
@@FrankMcCloud
Also its a pretty interesting and logical theory that Lechmere went with Paul along Hanbury Street that morning (which wasn't the most direct route to Pickfords, Old Montague Street was) to see where Paul worked in case he needed to try and set him up later. Did Lechmere get a bit paranoid about being caught so a week later he killed Chapman right near where Paul worked? Paul had not been found by the police at that point, so did Lechmere know that the area around where Annie Chapman was killed would be canvassed by the police and that Paul would be located? The police would then have two victims close to where Paul was. Was Chapman being killed there a case of Lechmere trying to set up Paul?
If Lechmere was behind time as he said he was after 'finding' Nichols body and the curfuffle with Paul and PC Mizen then surely he would have taken the quickest route to work via Old Montague Street and not down Hanbury Street, so why did he go down Hanbury Street if it wasn't to see where Paul was going? That would make him even later for work.