James Maybrick And The Diary Of Jack The Ripper.
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- If you wish to purchase a copy of Chris Jones's book, mentioned in the video, you can do so via the website www.florencemaybrick.com
In 1992 a journal came to light in which the author had written details of the Jack the Ripper crimes and in which he claimed to have been the man responsible for the murders of the canonical five victims.
Although the author didn't actually give his name, it was obvious from information contained in the journal that the author was - or, to be more precise, was claiming to be, Liverpool cotton merchant James Maybrick.
James Maybrick died in May 1889, and, shortly after his death, his American wife, Florence, was arrested and charged with his murder. Following a trial, that many believed (and believe) was a travesty of justice, she was found guilty and was sentenced to death.
However, the Home Secretary, Sir Henry Matthews, granted a reprieve and her sentence was commuted to one of penal servitude for life. She was released after having served fifteen years in prison, after which she returned to America where she died in 1941.
The case received widespread publicity when, in 1992, the journal - which has since been heavily promoted as the diary of Jack the Ripper - came to light.
Since this was the first time ever that the name of James Maybrick was linked to any of the Whitechapel murders, the sole case against his having been Jack the Ripper stands or falls on whether the diary was actually written by him.
In this video, Richard Jones discusses the case with author Chris Jones (no relation) and together they separate the facts from the fiction about this, to say the least, controversial document, whilst, at the same time, revealing some fascinating insights into the Maybrick poisoning case of 1889.
I really enjoy that you give your interviewees time to speak without interruption. It makes such a difference. And also gives them rope to gang themselves if their arguments are not actually that logical. This can often be camouflaged by the interruption/ frequent questions style of interview. It also gives the less fluent and confident speakers time to get comfortable, although I’ve noticed you do bail people out if they are really struggling. I wish tv hosts would be more like you, maybe I’d still have a tv!
Biggest takeaway for me, never, *ever* keep your cyanide and your water on your desk, in glasses and right next to each other!!
Yeah. I used to do that but my wife pointed out the problem.
I really appreciate your covering everything about JTR and giving all the theories and possible Ripper candidates a complete and fair and thorough study, checking through all the evidence from the possible to the easily discredited as well as recreating that era.
You set the gold standard on
Jack the Ripper research that nobody else comes close to.
Also I would have to agree about Maybrick being too old to be JTR; just as Francis Tumblety was.
I read a book about the Florence Maybrick case, which I got out of Accrington library, a few years ago. A fascinating story but unbelievably sad.
I absolutely love this channel! This time period feels so close yet so far, and the fact that we may never know who Jack The Ripper was sometimes annoys me to no end!
Your voice is very soothing and calming to listen to, you bring information up in a very calm way and keep everything neutral and accurate. In a way it sometimes feels like your videos manage to really drag me back to that time and see how people felt and thought about it all!
I read a book a while back that went more into depth into the victims of Jack, at least the "Canonical Five" like what their life was like before they died as much as they knew at least, and the book stated that neither of the five ladies actually went into prostitution, what are your views on this? Has it ever been fully confirmed they went into prostitution or was that just a general assumption that kind of stuck?
I'm a solicitor for over 40 years and not easily convinced of anything, but despite its stridency I personally found much quite compelling in the Robinson book and would have liked to see Mr Jones give a bit more substance to his rejection of it. I've read a lot of Ripper books, visited the various locations and try to keep up on the topic, and have also found interesting the lack of attention that Robinson's book seems to attract, at least in places that the person with an ordinary-ish interest would expect to find them.
Well said fergal👍
Thank you for sticking up for Robinson's book. I also found it an extremely compelling theory and a little unfair to disregard so easily.
A Duty Solicitor a friend to the police and representative of the Accused - Robinsons book is waiting for the call from Hollywood - even IF the diary is from the time - it does not make the writer the ripper obviously - if you believe T A L J - what do you know the ripper was a Gent Cape and All .
I think Charles Lechmere is the best suspect for being JTR. I’m not saying it was him for sure by any means, as it’s (for all intents and purposes) practically impossible to ever determine for sure who JTR was but Charles Lechmere fits better than anyone else in my opinion.
The Robinson account of soldier Robert Reeves overhearing two men in London plotting to poison their brother and blame their sister-in-law for the death is far more important than the Ripper “diary.” Reeves’s deposition exonerates Florence and James and implicates Michael and Edwin Maybrick.
I remember the Michael Winner documentary very well from the early 90's. Seeing a lot of Ripper authors sitting round a table discussing it and rubbishing it. I think most people would come to the conclusion it's nonsense but it's very interesting. Thanks again...
I loved that documentary! I was only a kid so it terrified me. It’s still quite unnerving now- the actor playing Maybrick in the reenactment did a great job
There was a show back in the early 200s where they asked the public to vote on 4 suspects. William Gull, Francis Tumblety, James Maybrick and Aaron Kosminski. Shockingly Maybrick was voted top. I feel like they need to abolish trial by jury based on that....
Lots of Ripper authors.....totally unbiased of course. No interest in being able to write more books advancing their latest pet theory
I bought this book right when it came out. It seemed somewhat compelling at the time. My only problem was that it seemed so unlikely that “famous” people involved with seemingly unrelated infamous case would have anything to do with JTR. Too good and too odd to be true. I always believed JTR was a “nobody”, like pretty much every other serial killer ever. Still I was hopeful, somewhat disappointed, but not surprised when it was proven to be a hoax about a year later. BTW, I believe JTR was Charles Lechmere, the guy found at the site of one of the murders. VERY compelling case presented by a Swedish journalist.
Correct
Finding a body doesn't make u a murderer!x
@@waynedevonald9335 The time window of Polly Nichols' murder is only a few minutes. Lechmere was either unbelievably unlucky or he was the Ripper.
@@simonkolar5478 If Lechmere didn't do it, he would have seen who did - or heard the murderer run off at least. And he didn't. The Dr who examined the corpse put time of death at 3.40am. Lechmere left his house at 3.30. It was a 7 min walk to the crime site. Other witness Paul said he was in the road at exactly 3.45 (mustve heard clock chime). So timings fit. And the Ripper was interrupted mid-mutilation so either by Paul or Lechmere.
Well he just said that the only "eye witness" accounts claim he was in his 20-30s. I've seen the same documentry as you all about Lechmere (I'm assuming since you took the same phrasing as the narrator that you have seen it). I personally think if he was indeed the killer, he would have either ran from or just killed "Paul". Reasons I think he acted suspicious was 1) he didn't want Paul to mistakingly think he was the killer (wrong place wrong time)...2) he didn't want his name in the papers while a killer was loose in his neighborhood. But we may never know.
I like his diary, I've got a copy. I just finished listening to on audible the autobiography of Jack the Ripper written in the late 1920s by James W Carnac and that is awesome, blew my mind! I recommend everyone listen to it...puts it in a whole new prospective. You'll be blown away when you find out the reason why the murders suddenly stopped.
Do please tell why they stopped.
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@@bathingcatsonacloudyday i don't see why he would just stop... the addiction and thrill of his killing... might be too hard too resist and prostitute are desperate enough to do anything as long as you give them money
Nobody actually knows why the murderer stopped, and I challenge you to PROVE IT. Like every other theory, it's just that... A theory nothing more
I think people love the idea of Jack the Ripper being murdered by a woman. It's exactly the kind of thing a writer would create.
Great to see this pop up tonight. Fascinating as always. Always new information. Never boring.
Fascinating discussion. Great interview Rich! It looks like we can reasonably close the door on a suspect. I’ve heard of his brother recently being named as a suspect. I would have liked to hear Chris’ opinion on the notion.
The good stuff just keeps pouring out from you these days pal.This time about the sad merchant,and his poor wife..Though hard to belive he was JTR,it is a facinating story.Thanx alot again for a superb upload!!!
A scrap metal dealer named Mike Barratt claimed that the diary had come into his possession in 1991, although he eventually admitted that he dictated the diary to his wife, who then wrote it directly into an antique ledger. I find it difficult to believe anything Mike Barratt has said about the diary, particularly as he then recanted his confession. I would honestly take it all with a pinch of salt.
Except that Barrett's confessional affidavit was secret and non-circulating. That's the part the diary believers don't like to point out. Why lie in an affidavit that no one knows about? And it is now known with 100% certainty that Barrett had asked a bookdealer in Oxford (his name is Martin Earl) to find him a blank Victorian diary several weeks before Mike turned up in London with an obviously fake "Jack the Ripper Diary." Why did Barrett seek such an unusual purchase? And yes, Barrett marketed himself as a "scrap metal dealer," but it has now been proven that he had actually worked as a freelance writer in the 1980s, having published various interviews and public interest stories in "Celebrity" and other magazines. This was kept from the public. Personally, I have no doubt the diary is a modern fake and Barrett was behind it. Will his ex-wife ever clear the air and set the record straight? I doubt it.
I can remember my Brother in law had bought a copy of Dairy of Jack the Ripper when it was published back in '94! My sister and her family had gone to Donegal for a holiday and I was house sitting for them. One night I picked up the book and started reading. Finding out it was fake merely a year later was a crushing blow, however at the time of reading, I found myself jumping at shadows and every creak the house made, sent this then 18 year old dashing to turn the main lights on. Definitely one of the most chilling books I have ever read, haunting as hell!
I believe he was jtr, it just that some so called experts discounted him because they have their own Barrow to sell
Excellent! Love these interviews/discussions! 👏👏👏
I would think that if James Maybrick was the killer, he would've loved filling his diary with all the gory details. With every serial killer I'm aware of, they view their murders as their life accomplishments. You'd think that's especially true for a murderer that took "trophies" like Jack the Ripper did.
the diary have gory details lol
@@ceejdude83 which are pretty much 100% in line with what we knew at the time of the diary release, almost as if someone wrote the diary based upon post-war information and CSI etc.
@@eroero830because that’s what it is, lol.
The diary sounds like rants of a mad man, maybe slow arsenic poisoning? And I think she killed him to stop the murders
I was 8 when the “diary” was published- I got my mum to buy it for me in hardback. I know it turned out to be fake but I was obsessed with it and it kickstarted my ripper fascination that I have to this day.
Hi Simon.
On the contrary, the diary has NOT been proven to be a fake.
The watch etchings are at least 100 years old and the Maybrick family crest "TIME REVEALS ALL" is the icing on the cake.
Maybrick was JTR.
@@brianvincent4165 Unless the early members of the Maybrick family could see into the future then I have no idea what the relevance of the family motto is. Unless you're implying that Maybrick bought a watch and carved a bunch of initials into it in the hopes that someone would find it, stumble across the Maybrick family crest and put 2 and 8 together to get 3.
The diary has never been conclusively disproven, actually. And even more damning for opponents of Maybrick as a suspect is the pocket watch which has also never been disproven.
@@zufgh👍 Michael Barrett’s father in law had the diary for over 50yrs disproving the recent forgery theory.
Very interesting! Thank you for sharing Mr. Jones. I’ll order the book first thing tomorrow morning.
Excellent video and very educational. I would have liked to have briefly touched upon the journal's author's claim of leaving clues such as initials at the murder sites, etc. But great in depth analysis and I learned a lot. Thank you.
Me too. The coincidences still have me, somewhat a dairy believer. The clearly visible FM.
That was great, As a person in 1992 I thought Maybrick was the Ripper. The FM on the Kelly wall crime scene etc, then all got bit silly!! Have to get this guys book, clears lot up. Sad, tragic life of the Maybrick's really. Thanks for this. Great stuff.
I still feel it was James Maybrick.
You can't rely on feeling, evidence is everything.
Aaron Kosminki was Jack ripper
I am so thankful I found this. Excellent to even know about this, it was excellent point of view on this. Plus, As many books I have read, movies I watched, and pod cast etc I have done, in the comments from every one there are more.
I read the diary when it first came out. It was obvious that Maybrick was hooked on arsenic. He put it in his food, and he bragged about how much he used. It doesn't make sense that his wife was charged with poisoning him when he was constantly poisoning himself.
Another brilliant documentary, best channel on TH-cam.
Great video. I remember reading the diary back in the early 90s when it was first published and if anything swayed me into thinking James Maybrick was JTR. Videos like this certainly highlight the possibility of it being a forgery. But i'm still to be convinced as everything seems so open to debate and inconclusive. Chris does raise some good points though. One thing I can't help wonder is why would someone make a forgery? As it seems to be a greatly 'researched' document for very little reward.
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. It has been very well explained 👏 👏👏 Great work 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Some thought it was a person who knew about surgery as he had knowledge of where to cut referring to his murder of Marie Kelly . He took out her some of her internal organs with surgical accuracy
What a treat. Thank you to both.
I do not recall any direct comparisons between the script of “Jack’s diary and letters” and Michael Maybrick’s handwriting.
Amazing interview with Chris Jones. Thanks agaib for another interesting video.
The BBC show Murder, Mystery and My Family. Covered the case of James Maybrick and found the case against his wife of murdering him to be unsafe.
Interesting video, I remember reading the book about the diary when it first came out. I think I wanted to believe that something new had surfaced in the ripper case but after a bit one simply has to admit that the diary just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I do have to admit that it was an entertaining read and on the surface seems like it could be genuine, unfortunately for all the reasons explored here, maybrick is just not a likely suspect for the ripper.
What an amazing memory he has. Such a deep knowledge of the minutiae
His watch with the engravings makes the diary more believable to me now
Very good interview. Great guest. Thank you for the info.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don’t think any of the suspects is the real killer. I believe the real killer went completely under the radar.
It sounds compelling, but the fact that it ends with the author signing "Yours Truly, Jack the Ripper" just sounds like a cheesy plot twist.
For you.
The Victorian Era treated Women Very unfairly..
Honestly, I can't even imagine why Maybrick was ever taken seriously as a possible JTR suspect. The only evidence to make this claim is an obviously fake diary. Personaly, Kosminski will always be my first choice for the title of JTR.
It can only be Kosminski once you first clear Lechmere as he was actually found alone with a freshly slain body of a victim which had also had the wounds covered up. Once you can explain how Kosminski committed this crime in the time frame before Lechmere arrives and also why he would even cover up the wounds anyway when he supposedly fled the scene you may have a point. The problem is you can’t and that’s because the only possible person that could’ve killed this victim is Lechmere and him staying instead of fleeing also explains logically why the wounds were covered. It’s not fantastical but it’s the only real answer.
He's the only valid suspect that police would even be allowed to charge. The profile of JTR as a zodiac style narcissistic psychopath comes only from the letters, which are even more obviously fakes than the diary spoken of here.
Richard, could you maybe get Shirley Harrison on to go through her theory in detail as I do enjoy when you get authors to detail their theories? It would only be fair for her to put her arguments out there for people to listen too.
What do you mean, 'not the Ripper'?
He's clearly wearing a cylinder hat!
No, James was not JTR. However it might be a really good idea to take a closer look at someone very close to James. This someone despised women, he despised Florence more than any of them. As a matter of fact Florence maintained throughout her life that this man had a " major spite " against her. He also had one about " dear Charlie " . The handwriting on the wall heavily suggested: "" What else do you need to know me by? ".And the murder of Mary Kelly was written in a book and followed to the letter. It was also a complete cover up from the lowest to the highest. For goodness sake!! Mary Kelly was carried out in buckets and we are expected to believe he left no clue? There were clues all over the place, at every murder and they were covered up. You're on the right elephant but sitting backwards.
Not being critical or skeptical about your suggestion as to who to look into but, why at this point so many years removed from the murders , do you not simply name this person close to James
@@robertbyars9486 Thanks Ginger, you know of course.
@@robertbyars9486 He is talking about Bruce Robinson's book.
It was James Maybricks brother ?
@@robertbyars9486 𝙨𝙝𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙧𝙚𝙛𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙈𝙖𝙮𝙗𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙠𝙨 𝙗𝙧𝙤𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧, "𝙢𝙞𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙚𝙡"
Brilliant 👍
Now can you do a documentary on his brother ?
Michael Maybrick.?
This I would be interested in as I said this to a guild 20 years ago whilst on the tour but never ever followed it up as I didn't think for a moment I could be on to something. Do you have any suggestions for books or videos that go into this theory?
Really enjoyed this interview, thank you for sharing, even now in 2022 its still fascinating to hear and also a breath of fresh air to hear the pros and cons, thanks again, much love N Ireland 👍
As I had read this "" diary I actually read it a few times and made note of various remarks ..Of note was one stating have taken up new rooms in Middlesex St , I've watched and read most that's produced about JTR ,I got thinking where have I heard the mention of Middlesex St re: with JTR , I got it years previously on a program involved with geographical profiling refrence was made the most likely quarters housing JTR was Middlesex St this was said years before any diary
A great interview - thank you
Did the handwriting in the journal match the handwriting on the ripper letters?
There are certainly similarities.
Look uo the stopwatch now that ahd me convinced
Enjoyed all your series but it will not be complete without one on micheal maybrick
A couple of comments. The interview implies that this is a relatively modern forgery yet the scientific analysis doesn't back that up nor does it prove its authenticity. However the dates thrown up are 1920s and this for me would mean this be more likely to be genuine than a forgery. As for the last entry. As the last entry is probably a suicide note then it makes total sense. He finishes the diary with his suicide note. He hides the diary and then he takes his poisonous mixture. There could also be a relative simple explanation to the little description surrounding the murders. He is writing it all on the same day. Or the last couple of days of his life prior to his suicide. He then doesn't remember all the details from the early murders and then final murder when he's clearly lost the plot but being able to detail everything in detail without getting anything wrong is doubtful.
Often these “debunkers” are so keenly cynical that they get carried away. If it is a forgery then it’s a masterpiece.
@@AtticusBleep a masterpiece with the wrong handwriting?
Just found another Jack the Ripper video to watch.😊
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There are a few things I don’t like about Maybrick being the candidate for JTR.
Firstly, for the diary to be genuine you have to then believe that Maybrick wrote the letters to the press as he gives himself the moniker of JTR. I don’t believe those letters are from the killer, therefore Maybrick signing off as JTR doesn’t make sense.
Secondly, I believe whoever killed Polly Nichols was interrupted due to the lack of injuries, therefore people who believe Lechmere was the killer also believe he was interrupted, then you would have to agree that this should have been a huge factor to document in a diary, be it Maybrick or someone else. Maybrick doesn’t say he was interrupted in his diary for Polly but does say he was for Elizabeth Stride???
Thirdly, I believe MJK was a copy cat killing. For Maybrick to include this in his journal was a mistake by the forger IMO. If someone could correct me if I’m wrong, but despite all the other reasons many have discussed as to why MJK doesn’t fit JTR’s demographic of victim, the one thing that really stands out for me is that he allows arterial flow with MJK, and I believe that she did manage to scream “murder” all be it with a cut throat as witnesses claimed to have heard. This shows that whoever killed MJK lacked the knowledge to strangle first before cutting the throat unlike the previous four murders.
Another note about the diary is he mentions a brother (Edwin) coming back from America after Christmas. I’ve checked the Ellis island records and his brother’s arrival is about three months earlier in 1888 not as the diary would have you believe after Christmas, which I would presume to be 1889 (doesn’t mean to say that Edwin didn’t arrive earlier and stayed in London for a couple of months before he visited James, but unlikely).
In terms of the glue found in the diary. It could be legitimate of Maybricks. Not for photographs but for swatches of cloth samples, he was a cotton merchant after all.
So we have been arguing the case against Lechmere but I feel that you maybe a little too quick to write off this theory. For your first point why sign off as Jack the Ripper at the end of the diary even if he didn't write the letters he may have liked the moniker and adopted it for himself for this suicide note. As that's what I believe the last entry is. Secondly on the letters lots of killers take additional credit for things they haven't done to add to their stature to build their own image. I think that could have been the case here. The case for the forgery is that the scientific analysis doesn't date it correctly but it doesn't throw out a logical or clear explanation as to disprove its authenticity. I can't remember off the top of my head but a date around 1920 springs to mind. Why would anyone in the 1920s be trying to frame Maybrick and forge this diary along with elements within the descriptions which wasn't known until the 70s and 80s. My favourite part of this is Florence Maybricks initials are there as per the diaries claim. No one saw this no one ever mentioned this until the diary was published and yet they are there. Finally the watch. I believe there is a lot more to this theory and I think a lot more centres around the wife of Michael Barratt and not Michael himself. Just like every theory I am not saying that Maybrick is the killer but it is one I find fascinating due to the discrepancies in the science. Shirley's books are a good read but you do have to keep an open mind with them. You can quickly dismiss them or quickly fall into her theory if you don't.
James "would have", ", should have". This sceptic is so subjective that it's ridiculous.
Great interview!
Interesting post. Think most people would say its definitely a fake.
really great interview
Why write a confession, then hide it? If you had second thoughts why not burn it?
Perhaps the “diarist” expected the “journal” to be discovered sooner, during or after his last crimes in 1889…?
This “grandchild of Florence” bull is completely unbelievable, Anne Graham thought her surname was descended somehow from Florence’s grandfather, Ingraham. That’s a strrrrrrrrrrretch.
Regarding the Manchester murders in the book, is there any evidence of a pair of murders there in around 1888 that had similarities with the Ripper murder?
Excellent interview .
Great analysis of the diary! I do sort of wish it to be true, but it just seems too unlikely.
Fascinating video! I don't know much about the subject, and these people. I can understand every word Chris Jones' says. They are both so well versed on these cases, and have amazing memories. Thank you for this.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
That's why the secretary of the home office did not kill her and they released her after 14 years because she said she killed a monster and was in fear for her own life but they did not want the embarrassment to come out to the public
Great post and spot on. I love how close we truly are to the Victorian era. Flo only died 25 yrs before old bastard yours truly was born.
I would love to hear your take on the Zodiac Killer and the suspects.
Great narration, many thanks
I read somewhere that James maybrick found out the ripper was his brother and he poisoned him and blamed Florence. Her book was quite interesting
Will the book be available in the US?
Or a digital download?
I think the reason he was use as the avatar for the ripper is THAT BLOODY LITHOGRAPH OF HIM !! Even if he wasn't associated and you typed 'show me what jack the ripper looked like' , that is the picture which would come up....
I bought the book in 1993! A fun read.
Very interesting. I was wondering about the handwriting. I would think there would be samples available from his businesses. Good call on looking in Virginia.
Why would a forger go to such lengths to forge the diary only to get Maybrick's handwriting completely wrong? makes no sense.
Interesting interview! 👍
Who wrote the diary then? I mean if it was forged at the time of the killings.. that's weird.. why Maybrick? That'd be like me going, "eyy you heard about the guy in town that got shot last night, it was me (some random guy's name whom I know and implicated now for no reason what so ever)." And then I'd just hide this book somewhere.. never tell anyone about it and it'll be found 100 years from now. What possible motive would I have to fabricate a story like that? A forgery that won't even be found within my lifetime about I guy that I know who has already died too. And why was it forged? It's not like the person who forged it has tried to sell it or anything since it just showed up in 92..
So it's a modern forgery, case closed. These stories are only good for one thing, that is to keep the Ripper "experts" in business. Nobody will ever know who he was.
Exactly
I read that diary years ago and it was creepy to me. Whoever wrote that was a disturbed individual. This doesn't make them Jack. But whoever they were they were crazy. Back in the day people scrafched things inside of jewelry like pocket watches and lockets. I have a locket from the time period and it's got initials and a date scratched inside of it. Anyways I read about that Maybrick murder case too. She really got railroaded.
I agree interesting video about a diary of Jack the Ripper the journal’s author’s claim of leaving clues such as initials at the murder site etc.
If as you believe it’s a fake,wouldn’t the forger have made sure that the handwriting matched,I would have though that would have been a priority.
At the time they said they had little access to his handwriting.
Can someone explain how they would know what the levels of arsenic in his system was? Just curious I figured they wouldn't be able yo deduce that kinda stuff as well back then
Who forged the diary? Why did they choose James Maybrick as the culprit? They mist have thoroughly researched him. Why pick him if he was such a poor candidate? Open to answers
His wife hid it after his death her last letter before his death told of his story he told her that she thought was only to horrify and scare her
So james never mentions the, silver empty match box tin, no one knew about until the 90,s, or the two farthings, or the riddle on the wall.
Even ripperologist are guilty of this they always show him with a cape a tophat and a black bag. First of all two men were nearly lynched going through Whitechapel with a black bag. It started all the way in the 1880s but when you look at people that actually saw the ripper a top hat a cape or a black bag was never mentioned I think Whitechapel was his home which means he was likely very poor whoever the ripper was. I believe in my opinion he is either Charles lechmere or Aaron kosminski. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence about lechmere for example Robert Paul did not know the victim was even dead because the blood had not even leaked out yet. Meaning she had been dead only for minutes possibly seconds. He saw lechmere pull the dress down to cover the mutilations. The police officer did not realize how the ripper got out without being seen. I propose he did not get out he was still there and outsmarted the police. Also four of the five victims were killed on the path that he took going to work or to his mother's house at a time when he would have been on the path. That puts him in direct vicinity of the crime scene in four of the five victims. The 5th victim of course was killed in a house. Aaron kosminski you have both the DNA weather people discount it or not but if that was all he would be easy to dismiss unfortunately for him that is not all. A Jewish man positively identified Aaron kosminski as standing by the long liz moments before she was murdered. He said he is absolutely 100% certain it was Aaron kosminski. When he found out kosminsky was a Jewish man and his testimony could bring about kosminsky being hung he absolutely refused to testify from that point forward. I am 99 beyond 99% sure that one of these two men is undoubtedly the ripper.
Such an interesting topic. Could Florence be the author? Could she have written it after the fact to either "justify" the so-called poisoning or to point the finger at him out of anger? Or, could she have written it because she knew for a fact that he was Jack? Either she knew it, or he confessed it to her (lying or telling the truth) or she was trying to pin the murders on him.
Not written in Florence’s handwriting.
My first thought was: why bring James Maybrick, a total unknown, into the fray? From the forger's perspective, this would make it much harder going; to first convince the experts of a 'new kid on the block', then of his opportunity and motive, THEN that the diary is genuine.
But then I read the diary, and was struck by the almost superficial feel to it. It's too lucid; it's too neat. I can't believe it's genuine.
So my theory is that the first 20 pages torn out contained old photos, etc, as suggested by the experts' examination of the pages.
And I wonder if one of those photos was of Maybrick - a creepy looking fellow you have to admit - and that the creepiness of this very old, 1880s photo, naturally summoned up the spectre of JTR, and the thought how wouldn't it be amazing if this wasn't an old scrapbook with some old photos in it, but a diary. Hence the forgery.
(Any way of checking the probable era that the pages were torn out?)
Other than that, could Maybrick have been more than a little delirious, and somebody in the house wrote down what he said in his delirium? That might account for the doodled lines and odd rhymes/words, doodled in between taking down Maybrick's words.
Oo thank you always love hearing about this case or cases sorry 👍❤
If - if- the diary was real, I would think it was hidden after Maybrick’s death. Can you imagine if you are mourning someone you loved, only to find documentation that they were a serial killer?
You'd destroy it wouldn't you?
Interesting interview! Is there a link 4 the book?x
I say it's genuine. Some renovators discovered the journal hidden under the floorboards, and although that made it technically not their property, took it anyway . This fact made it difficult for them to be honest about its discovery. I've read it multiple times. It all makes sense. I don't give a damn what anyone else thinks... So don't try to change my mind!
I agree this diary has more evidence then all the other suspects besides being insane.
Don't get me started with Lechmere which was build on pure speculation.
I'd rather put my money on this then the other theories.
Ever since I heard about The Ripper case it's hard to argue with the fact that the ripper just stops. Gives you that 80% educated probability let's just say, that something happened to Jack. Of course from there speculation of being killed, sent to a place where he was unable to do harm such as jail, or mental institution. Statistically the enjoyment and pleasure the Ripper had he wouldn't have stopped for any other reason. Granted it could be as minescule as Jack satisfied his blood lust by his last verified victim. Wouldn't be surprised but I doubt it. As to continue with this diary it's too brief. You would believe being a diary they would give more explanation and hatred towards these people.
if the diary is to be believed, his hatred was towards his wife (which the author makes very clear in the diary), he just took it out on those women
Unless he is also the Thames Torso killer. There is circumstantial evidence they may be the same person. We are not sure he did stop. He may have escalated.
@@ceejdude83which isn’t the case with the vast majority of serial killers. Most had issues with their mothers and not their spouses.
Couldn't have been Maybrick , his name was James . 🤔
JA...first 2 letters of the name James.... CK.... the last 2 letters of the name Maybrick ! : JACK !
Just fascinating!! Thank you…
Glad you enjoyed it!
Remember picture based therapy is valuable in a developmental psychology of to with minds of English citizens from birth to childhood all had the mentalities of teenagers even when older, so I know that just without watching this specific video enforcing the theory that the Ripper looked like Maybrick, but was probably foreign, & unknown to normal Whitechapel citizens -
Another great video!!
what really gets my goat up is when JTR is depicted as a Top hat n cape wearing surgeon bag carry felon
Nuts. I sort of liked Maybrick as Jack.
Interesting video, but the guy being interviewed here is a total Ripper Diary skeptic and he is obviously stating his side of the story, fair enough. I still personally thank that the diary is genuine and that James Maybrick was Jack The Ripper.
Agree. Barrett’s wife said she gave the Diary to Michael’s friend to give to him in order that Michael wouldn’t pester her father . The Father had the diary in a suitcase for over 50yrs, which goes against the recent forgery theory.
So why didn't he hand it over to the police? Why didn't the electricians who, allegedly, found the diary hand it over to the police? Who keeps a journal claiming to belong to Jack the Ripper and decides to sell it to his mate in a pub?
His wife didn’t kill him the jury didn’t give her life for having a affair she was a woman in that era from America that played a bigger role than anything
I would have thought a Forensic analysis of the paper and ink of he diary would have been proof if it was a fake or real
They did. The paper and ink was from the correct time period.
@@peecee1384IIRC they said that the ink was consistent in formula to commonly used inks of the 1800s. It didn’t say that the ink was that old but only that it’s makeup was very similar to inks of the time period.
I don't know if the Ripper himself chose the name "Jack", or if the media was responsible, but for what it's worth, look at Maybrick's name. The first two letters of his Christian name are JA, and the last in his surname CK. Just sayin'
I think jack the ripper is the name signed in the first letters in the mail in the newspaper which everyone thinks is fake. The from hell letter that contained a human kidney that people think might be the only real letter from the killer never mentioned Jack. It was as I mentioned just signed: "From hell"
@@dahlizz99Agreed - Dear Boss - suspected at the time of having been written by "an enterprising journalist".
Excellent interview. Even if it is a forgery, which it almost certainly is, you have commend whoever created it for their creativity for bringing James Maybrick into the story