The Sitting Styles of Professional Gamers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2019
- How you sit determines your monitor, mouse, and keyboard positions, as well as the health of your posture. In this video, I discuss a wide variety of sitting styles and the advantages and disadvantages.
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@NYGHTEMXRE git gud
where is shaiiko
Touch some grass
next video: "how to breath like a professional gamer"
Slippy that would be cool not gonna lie
I sometimes breathe heavier or breathe lesser on intense situations, I somehow think I tunnel vision because of it.
2pongz I personally lightly bite my Tongue a lot while gaming or in intense situations I know this isn’t breathing but it’s something I do
2pongz I meant intense not to put school in
my reply you probably didn’t see the typo anyways lol
Some demon slayer shit
Mom: hey timmy what you doing there?
This guy: Just playing quake mom. Jeez...
Red Rhum this comment is fucking gold
holy sh#t hahahaha dats really grossly funny man lol !!!
Wow mrs white, periods really do matter!?
Only legends get this comment xD
Red Rhum yeah mom I’m just playing quake
3:34 listen and just close your eyes
Hahahh
Ah yes, I need to aim so it goes into my water.
Fuck you i laugh mucjhhhh
Don’t get it
Michelle Lamberti because your a girl
My wife is a pro gamer , my wife sits on me for extra performance .
That was good. Just check how many games she plays.....
Mayur Arun Steam Profile says 1.5k hours :0
Lol
@@mayurarun 😂
@@PULKITUPPAL atleast someone got it :)
wow, been thinking about posture a lot lately, perfect timing on the video!!!
same here :D
Ditto.
Same. I have been organically thinking about this for the past few weeks.
I've been sitting the wrong way all time. Don't want to happen the same with my kid.
Very educating video. Very cool👌🅱️
@JONAHAU wasn't the actual toph =(
Ron Rambo Kim has really done a lot for the gaming community. He deserves acknowledgement for his hard work and dedication. Bless up my man ❤️
So true
Awww, ty
@@RonRamboKim HE IS JUST KIDDING , LMAO AWWW
@@amitdhiman7860 but he's not...he clearly means what he said
@@amitdhiman7860 u drinkin too much bro?
weird how this gets recommended when i have these problems sitting styles and also the other one with mouse and keyboard position subbed awesome tips
Imaging showing this to my parent
6:08 "Dont be afraid to experiment with your positions". Words to live by.
Hey Ron, I just found your channel. You were one of my idols growing up man back in the prime 1.6 days. I followed you and team3D for years and always looked up to you. Im so glad to have reconnected with you and I dont play cs anymore but Im playig FPS again. Wish you the best.
I bought your guide TAO CS way back when I first started scrimming in 1.6. Years later while I'm in the peak of my competitive phase my team played vs you in a pug with other CSS pros. We won the best of three very fun games before looking up your steam IDs and discovering your identities. I must say that bo3 was one of the best moments of my gaming life. You're the GOAT and I remember the old days vividly.
Glad to see you making videos to help others to this day, moreso for this topic that younger gamers seriously need to consider. I wish I'd seen this video when I was younger.
I love your videos. I competetively play fighters, not FPS games, but your tips on mentality and physical consistency while playing have helped me grow a lot
I'm happy to hear that. Thank you :)
Thanks for speaking the cold hard truth about Quake. It is PURE SKILL.
Everybody gangsta til the gamers start SITTING
bro i am just sitteing here
@@TlNQA same
Yeah man bring back Team 3D
How do i sit
Thank you for another video! Really appreciate your work!
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You're an absolute legend Ron. Thank you.
Boi if I sit that close to my monitor. My mom would kill me.
Nick GamerTV your back as well someday
@@janjay666 Ah yes I mean I cant even sit like a normal person on a PC As I play on a TV Heh.
I still remember I was playing asphalt 8 when I was a kid and I literally burried my face in the tab and my mom just slapped me from behind and told that - why're you here just go to phone
Useful information, nice video!
Nice vid as always. I have improved my aim so much thanks to your videos. Can u make a vid about how to improve consistency in aiming cus im still struggling a lot in that area
Maybe the next video can be about the different type of grip styles and their advantages? based on what i've heard, fingertip allows more freedom and precision at the cost of fatigue, and palm allows a relaxed form but with less manoeuvrability.
This information is so valuable and I'm so thankful for it! I'm 31 years old and I wish that I would have taken my posture and positioning more serious when I was younger putting in the long hours. Today tho I have made some strides, and the information provided only helps me further. Thank you again Rambo!
Hey man, would love to see how you sit at your setup and also a video on the way that pros setup their gear on the desk. (or you and your setup). This is something ive been curious about for ages
Cheers
I talk about some of my personal setup in my "How to aim" video
Amazing way to make space, mostly for lan compettion. I will try it some day. Amazing Video and Good Information. LOVED IT!
Would love to see you make that video!
If you are still interested in knowing why rapha plays that way, its party due to small spaces in lan. But he said he stuck with that style bcus (not his exact words) it puts less pressure on his wrist or smth.
I am recently starting to play this way as well and its much more easier to maintain a decent posture bcus u can just lay back and chill.
no doubt ur content so special. no one talk about sit position.
as always like for ur content mr kim
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Hey Rambo, for a follow up video could you do one about chair height and table height? Personally when my seat is too high I lose accuracy and when it's too low I can't do large and micro movements. Keep up the good work.
next video: "the circumcision styles of professional gamers"
Toneless Knight ok then ...
Nigha
Toneless Knight that was so unfunny
that was pretty funny ngl
Sleeping bag type cut
Nice video, dude. Just wanted to note, the attention to Quake is greatly appreciated! You definitely earned a subscribe from me today.
Quake is one of my favorite games of all time! Quake1 was my first true FPS
Thank you for the video, working on computer all day long + playing games when I go home, it is a subject I'm really interested about
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really great video man
So heartwarming that you started the video with Quake legends. Subscribed, just for this alone.
So Basically: Try and see what works for you. Thanks man, i appreciate the effort.
Individual play style is a big factor for how different players sit. Like if I’m playing super aggressive with a sub against some tryhards in a competitive match on BO4, I’ll be sitting up straight to be ready for anybody I run into. Whereas if I was quickscoping, sitting back helps me maintain composure and not tense up because most of the time you need to hit nearly every shot on the first attempt or you’re dead. That’s just my experience though
solid content just switched from a ps4 to game on pc so tips like this are a God send
jdm always makes me lol. my dad and I loved quake and I tried raphas sitting style and I love it, been using it for 5 years :)
I actually used the "side arm" sitting position when I started out PC gaming naturally without knowing anyone else did it. I simply did it because my desk was a bit to high so I needed to rest my whole arm on top otherwise my forearm would scrape the edge. Since my desk wasn't that deep I just angled everything which led to that style
I bet its a similar reason for the pro who does it.
i sit just like allu when playing on keyboard and mouse but i lay back more on controller for rocket league
Wow that mouse arm all the way bend inwards helped me allot with faster aims.
Mine definitely became the forward leaning position, I used to do the same leaning back playing for so long, but then sat straight up and improved on my gaming, but now it's forward leaning and most of my forearm on the table, also started tilting my keyboard because it isn't a tenkeyless, but just ordered a tenkeyless so I don't gotta tilt it anymore, so hopefully I can see myself improve even more without ruining my wrist with that tilted keyboard
stretches on back neck and wrist arm is really needed!
Both wrists. Not just the mouse hand.
When you feel like you can't provide any more to the FPS section of gaming, try expanding on other genres of games? I'd love to hear your thoughts on these kinds of things for other games as well
A few years ago, I decided to correct my posture and it wasn't easy, I started to play worse because I wasn't accustomed to sit in a more healthy way, but it was worth sticking with it. Thank you for doing the research and sharing it.
Would love to see the posture exercises!
Glad you started with Quake pros :)
for the first sitting position its becuase the computer desk back in the days its so small that only fits a keyboard in the slider.
6:50 I’m interested! Overall good video. I would not have been able to come up with this
What a great video. Recently found your channel and I'm hooked. Too bad you didn't cover XANTARES' sitting position/monitor distance xD
I play a lot Like Jdm. Way back in my chair with my forearm almost completely in the desk. Ever since I did that I started too fragging and hitting great shots.
I've experimented a lot with arm and elbow positions and in my experience having your elbow on or right next to the edge of the table is the way to go in CS. You get the best range of motion and consistency but you do need a BIG table. Moving your arm further back requires you to use your shoulder to keep your arm from falling and that bit of tension adds inconsistency. Your range of motion is also reduced. Keeping my arm/elbow on an armrest gave me even better and more stable aim but the range of motion was so small that I had to raise my sens and lose that advantage.
I understand I am 4 years late, but could you give me a pro example of this.
Wow great video. Can't wait for a video talking about what socks pro gamers are wearing.
Good stuff .... can you please make a video on your daily stretches and exercises?
You r next level coach sir. Just admiring the beauty of individuality. ❤🏋️♀️
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When one of the greatest Quake players ever has made "over $180,000" over the past 20 years. Kinda sad how Quake was so instrumental in laying the groundwork for competitive gaming yet only was a living or truly a career launching point for a just a small handful of players.
Quake is amazing
yeah, nowadays quake is considered dead by many people. But I think it lives in the form of a game called krunker.io
@@RonRamboKim sure is. sorry I didn't respond on the rest of the video. need to actually practice this stuff.
@@moonpiedumplings3059 hey I play krunker! On my channel and my twitch
Trying Different Sitting Positions is really key. I had a gaming posture like scream but would perform very inconsistently(some matches would top frag and others really suck). When I tried Sitting straight like shroud or twistzz I was unstoppable and went from Gold 3 to Diamond real quick
I’m 14 and have a very bad back and shoulders from gaming so thank you so much for this it helped my get comfortable.
You're very welcome :)
This is my most challenging issue when playing games. I have a bad chair, No proper back support as well!
Same
Lmao mate, I don't even have a chair.
of all the people you should have showcased, should have shown xantares xD dude lives in his monitor
+1
Xantares obviously has a vision problem. He needs to buy some glasses
Or ropz
Sorry ROPZ is literally married to the monitor,
He should have shown him.
Hahahahhaha 😂😂😂👏👏👏
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I was literally looking for some advice for a better gaming and hand positioning way for playing Arsenal in Roblox...thx bro
This is the most important stuff! If sitting position is uncomfortable I cant even aim!!
Interesting video! Nice that you mention Quake players. Speaking of which, I couldn't find a picture anywhere but arguably the best HLDM player ever (Half-Life Deathmatch, which was extremely skill-based and competitive at the time), GaRpY, used to play with a mouse with his right hand but with his left hand he'd use a controller. I have no idea how he managed that but he got to a really high level in a game that requires very complex movement mechanics.
He's still competing in the Quake Pro League under the Myztro organization but he's changed to a more standard set up a long time ago. He streams Quake and Apex Legends on Twitch if ever you want to ask him.
Im a huge fan of HLDM and used to play a lot myself. I totally agree that it's one of the most skillful games out there! I haven't found a game that has matched the aerial combat provided by the gauss gun
Make a posture video, I would definitely watch!
TLDR: you can be successful sitting in any position.
Thank you for another helpful video! Can you do a video on hand placements on keyboard? I'm pretty new to mouse and keyboard gaming and I feel most comfortable with the right side of my keyboard slanted towards my chest. Is it beneficial to stick with the traditional style where the keyboard is more parallel to the edge of the desk?
Keyboard placement is totally personal preference. The important thing is to find an angle and distance that allows you quick access to all the surrounding keys around your movement keys (WASD) and a position that doesn't strain your hand, forearm, and shoulder
Yes please give us a video about posture and stuff. Because I am 16 and getting back problems so I need help
Bro the way aceu sits in front of the monitor is legit the most blinding thing
I just got a sweet deal on a slightly used maxnomic chair :)
The keyboard to kneel in Quake - the first did Polosatiy. Due to pain in his hand, he could not keep his hand on the table.
Actually his hand was fractured so he had to seat this way
Polosat1y is the russian quaker. So, this posing was named "russian style". After that many gamers copy him.
By the way, in Russian computer clubs there was not enough place for a mouse. partly why many held the keyboard on their lap. cooler, cypher, unkind
The "style" of playing with your keyboard on your knees stems from Eastern Europe where desks with the sliding pad for keyboard were extremely popular among gamers' parents. Because in their mind the desk was not meant solely for the PC, but also for the paper stuff, like reading, writing, and doing homework. So the idea of being able to hide the keyboard underneath the desk seemed genius to them. I know a few people who became "victims" of this and even after growing up they are still used to having their keyboard on a lower level compared to a normal desk.
I know this is a year old. I wouldn't necessarily say it stems from EU. Back 20 years ago, most desks even in NA had a slide out keyboard. To this day, I'm addicted to having my keyboard lower than the desk. I'm not sure how they can rest it on their lap though, it would feel too wobbly to me. If I ever switch to having my keyboard on my desk, I'll have to invest in a standing mechanical desk so I can have both arms comfortably on an equal level.
@@JohnB-mo4kq Well, I think in the West they started disappearing around mid 2000s, but in the Eastern Europe they are still using them today. Especially in libraries and stuff like that. And I still have friends who are using this kind of desk :)
@@VioletMiracle I'm still using one as well, lol. I can't get used to anything else.
please make a posture routine
love rapha's mouse bungee so much
I've heard it referred to as Russian style for the "keyboard in lap, mouse on desk" setup. I heard it from a buddy who used to play UT a lot.
Indeed, I've always known it as Russian style among quake players, and have heard it attributed to Russian quake players playing in rooms for LAN with "not much space" which then, because some of them were quite good, inspired players of other countries to try it, which stuck for some of the ones that became especially successful.
concerning raphas sittin position. back in those days Pc desks commonly had a drawer below where you would place the keyboard
i have a posture like these quake guys, my friend does too. for my case its because i sat a table that was at a particular L shape that forced me to put my arm infront of the keyboard. for my friend, his usb cable was too short and so he eventually and permanently fixed into an internal rotation, which i think is the main reason because maybe these old box computers gave the same problem
I think if you have the choice, it's best to try to develop a posture towards the conventional "proper" sitting position early on - chin down, neck not craning forward, hip rested on the back, shoulders relaxed, chest out and legs at 90 degrees, etc.
As someone who has had disk problems, avoid bad posture when possible
can you make a video about mouse accel and why some pros use it? (Xantares, swag)
So, I noticed one thing I was doing was having my arms too close together. Having my shoulders be the gauge for the spacing I need between my arms helped give my forearm the range it needs while relieving the tension I usually have in my wrist.
I think some players get used of first position shown in the video, because it wasnt rare, that tables had extra hollow shelf for keyboard below the desk. So they just tried to copy that, placing a keyboard below
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I have no clue how jdm has been effective with such sitting style 🥺🥺🥺
Love his intro music
Entire forearm and elbows on the table is the best posture, since your arm weight is left to the table thus reduce strain on your shoulder. However, if your table is too low or your seat is too high, it will caused strain to the back and shoulder. In competition gaming events, it can be hard to get the right seat or table height due to the type of monitors and chairs.
Personally, I tend to have the table height close to chest level so my entire forearm and elbow can rest on the table. Likewise, my back will always be straightened and not "bend" even when I subconsciously lean forward to the screen.
4:12 How i control a spaceship.
I believe JDM has switched to a more conventional sitting style recently.
I pretty much okay like that jdm64 guys position. It's the comfiest to sit in for long gaming sessions. Been playing online fps since about 2000.
Nice video man, but there is a lot more of sitting positions, we could make a longer video about it. After 10 years of playing fps games I noticed sitting position is very important, even more important than your mouse grip.
After testing sitting styles and how my aiming can get improved, I personally found myself better and more comfortable sitting like s1mple. Mix of arm and wrist aiming with elbow locked on position. My posture though seems fine and better than before as I can achieve playing/sitting more without feeling any soreness. Thanks for the awesome video once again!
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@@Korkonakios bro it was just fun i tried to do this and same to u what u said me 👍👎
Find a healthy and compfortable position and learn from there.
Your back will thank you later.
Gaming is great, health is greater.
I've been sitting the wrong way all time. Don't want to happen the same with my kid.
Very educating video. Very cool👌🅱️
the quake players are sitting sideways because it allows them to anchor their elbow without having to hunch forward. when sitting normally and not using an armrest for support, your elbow will always stick out a bit.
4:25 headphone's mouthpiece or microphone looks like jdm64's mustache 🤣
3:24 The seating position started because kids would be on adult sites and their hand below the desk and when someone came in they could just say they have the keyboard down there
Wait really
stoked we're still getting the best of Jeff Goldblum
From what I remember quake players used that style of sitting because the space for mouse and keyboard was very small
Jdm plays in the same position we all do after everyone forces on the second round.
Gaming chair = global elite
Hence proved
Crazy I’ve been playing pc for 2 years and always felt a little off and today I found a random position I felt comfortable and I’ve never played valorant so well with near perfect accuracy