the gt500 M122 were already high bc of the Cad blower video. They were JUST starting to come back down. Lucky I found another source of low cost blowers that better than the M122. I'm just not telling people what cars theyre on lol
Just picked up a 2300 5.8 blower with 10k miles on it for $250.00 that my buddy had sitting on the shelf at his shop collecting dust from a blower swap a few years ago.
"I said what I said !" and I'm always happy that you do ! Cat's been outta the bag 8 hours now , blowers are probably what comes after "W" . I loved the look of the setup on the live chat , even happier it has performance to match .
You're so freaking awesome dude. I don't know what fuels you after watching the live streams though. So many elementary questions and you keep on trucking, smiling, and posting up videos. You're truly a saint, RH!
I laughed when I saw you reversed the 5.3 TB removal footage to look like a TB install. I was like, wait a minute, did that part just defy gravity and float into place lol. Slick.
We completed the install of the m122 on my GTO. Still got some tuning left left to do. Definitely not cheap to make sure it is not heat soaking. On a base tune to make it drivable, it is awesome! Torque does not stop, and power is still on the table. Just did a 600+ mile run to KY for LS Fest East. Drive it there and back from VA to KY and back. This thing is too fun!
@@DBTUNED-CT can’t run a stock hood. The good thing about the theme of the build is Wasteland / post apocalyptic…so I just cut a big hole in the hood. It sticks up pretty high. I also didn’t use the ultra low ram intake either. Talking total money for the build…it’s over $10k for everything we did. Can’t wait to get this fully tuned to see what it really makes. Just ordered a new pulley system and a clutch to handle up to 1200hp…calculating what it’s potential, plus nitrous, it will be close. We shall see.
People see me walking down the road and think I'm hitchhiking, I tell them no thanks, I've just watched alot of speed Secret videos, my thumb is stuck that way, I call it the Holdener spraine, It only hurts when I reach for my wallet. 😁
Ordered my adapter for my 6.2, don't know if I have ever met a nice guy than Tom Demuse. Took the time to educate me about the product and how it was drilled out for several other blowers already if I decided to upgrade. Told me everything I needed to get everything installed, even took the time to look up parts (without me asking) to make 100% sure I got the right stuff. Even gave me estimated wheel hp off of his build. If the parts work half as good as his customer service it will be more than amazing
The real question is whether or not if this is a cheaper setup than the lsa blowers. Considering the lsa blowers are coming down in price and it doesn’t require an adapter plate.
I was eyeballing the Whipple water cooled super charger kits for my 6.0 L96 on ebay that are only $7k with a programmer and canned tune. Now I'm starting to consider finding a cheap junkyard blower and doing it all myself.
The e85 content you've provided is invaluable however a large number of your viewers apply your craft to there dayley drives so the 91 octain infomation is equally if no more valuable than e85 , keep up the great work , your videos are very educational
The m112 blower as fitted to lightnings, cobras etc has pretty restrictive inlet tract and a different bolt pattern to the gt500. Also the throttle body is on the opposite side of the blower case.
Not exactly a low budget install IMHO. Sure, the GT500 M122 last I looked was $300-400 used, I bought mine many years ago for $200 a low mile take off. That said this nicely engineered kit looks based on a $550 Magnusson tub lower with the custom intercooler, and adapter plates, fuel rails. Not sure of the kit cost but I'm betting well north of a grand. I'm currently looking at the feasibility of using a low ram, adapter plate and meth injection on my 5.3. Enjoying the videos!
I went to Demuse engineering and their adapter plate kit is about 3 grand. An the cheapest gt500 supercharger I found was about 2 grand on ebay. So unless you have one or can buy one extremely cheap I don't see it being worth the hassle. But he did say the prices would go up lol.
Man I LOVE the engine durability of the 5.3 platform (usually reserved for "big block race engines") and innovations today, as opposed to 40+ years ago. Way back when it was a daunting task (and big $ ) to put a rootes blower (detroit diesel) on an engine a make it run well. It still costs lots of $$ but at least now, ya don't have to be a NASCAR engine build shop to produce respectable HP.
Looking forward to all the tests on this setup, currently building 9.5:1 408 that I plan on adding 91 pump gas boost to down the road. Was looking at the Vortech kit for ~3500$ and this combo seems to be right around the same price.
@@matthewvarnam4302 The Vortech LS swap tuner kit comes with the V3 which is a 775hp blower, so maybe 7-8psi on a 408. Good match for my goals with 91 octane. Probably better than the M122 and worse than a the 2300 ford blowers.
So break down of price looks like this. Blowers can be found at the price listed but will probably go up. $400-$800 m122 blower $350 for throttle body kit ($100 if you are doing dbw and supply your own throttle body) $1750 Adapter plate, intercooler and fuel rails $250 pulley kit $587 Magnuson lower tub So total price could be between: $3087-$3737 As long as the price of the supercharger doesn't go up significantly. Also keep in mind the other things like water tank, pump and whatever else is needed to make the air to water intercooler work. It not a bad deal but some may choose to go a different route. All depends on how well this fits your needs. I will say I got to speak with the guy that sells the adapter and he seems like a great guy that is very helpful. So if you don't like the price please be respectful.
@Randy Zagarri well in some parts of the country that is false. I found three, all under $700 in my area when this video was posted. Granted, they have all sold since then. Lol but I am sure some parts of the country are more expensive than others.
I could have sworn I saw one of these type of blowers for around $500 mark, but that was months ago. At least the "realistic" cost is still in line with what I found my LSA for, so I can't be sad about that lol.
Only thing good about the Ford supercharger is they are readily available compared to the sts supercharger. Prices might go up some but I doubt much. The adapters will be the hard part to get and those will possibly go up
You can get a new LSA blower kit with the ZL1 top for $3000 that’s including the intercooler and water pump. This route is more money once you buy the adapter. So then you can use decamped injectors, a hellcat walbro. So $3300 for everything that fits like factory.
@@Cultofpersonality09129 I would prefer to have an LSA over the Ford blower with adapters anyways. But where are you finding the LSA that cheap, ive noticed the pricing going up the past few years and I think around $4500 was the last time I priced one put but that was also with injectors.
That dude should make one for the 4v 4.6. How many of those motors are out there in need of a blower? As far as I know, you have to find a lower off of an 03/04 Cobra and that's the only way to put a roots or twin-screw on one.
They made 2.1 Kenne bells for em back in the day I think they were non intercooler so power is limited. I would run an 03 cobra lower so you can run the awesome blowers they make for those like vmps gen3r
I thought I heard you say that upping the carbs didn’t make a difference it was in like a 8-71. I’m mistaken though. It doesn’t matter what was said or what I thought. Thanks for putting the number in the description too.
I dunno, thats kinda like sayin a Cummins from a dodge ram is a Mopar engine... these are Eaton superchargers.... so??? I dunno?? either way it works!!!!
@@AlchemistHawk Well the 2300 is quite a bit bigger than the 1900 LSA blower, so if you were looking to push past 700-800 hp the 2.3 might be preferable.
Your next videos are going to be gold on this. Pump gas comparisons, cam swaps, looking forward to it! I see on the pulley it says "Demeuse Engineering" and your video description says "Demuse" may want to correct that.
That oval throttle body will have awful low speed drive ability. RE: A small movement of the throttle arm = huge air flow change. This is why some throttles have an egg shaped throttle arm, GM uses a ski jump on the back of some throttle blades , Ford uses a toothed throttle body gasket / dual staged throttle blades. In the case of drive by wire, the software will take care of this.
How much taller is that blower combo in the L33 compared to the L33 when it had the stock truck intake on it? Would this set yo with with a kwik wide bracket corvette spacing accessory bracket kit. I have a zr2 4x4 s10 (2000 year model) than I've been gathering parts for and the last think I need to get is that corvette spaced accessory bracket kit that kwik makes. I plan to daily the truck and I have a turbo I had planned to remote mount since I will be running an A/C system (also from kwik). Not sure if I should try thus or just go N/A with the truck build. I have 2002 WS6 6speed TransAm than in planning to do an H/C/I on and just leave the 125/150 shot on it that I've been running. I build a stroker 383 also with nitrous and converted to an lt1's T56 in my old 89 formula firebird. So most everything I've done is either just built motors with or without nitrous and I wanted to do this 4000lbs S10 as my first LS swapped forced induction build that i can still daily drive (went a bit over board in the 89's stroker 383 and it wasnt very traffic friendly but a hell of alot of fun. I may consider going this route also long as I dont have to run a 4+" cowl hood to clear the engine like I ended up with in the 89 formula firebird. I figure I'd have to do a 2" just to clear the truck intake anyway and the opened back of the cowl would help some with heat extraction from under the hood but I would like to be able to see the other side of the truck since the scoop on the 89 meant I could see the pop up head light with out leaning forward. Thank in advance. You do great videos. I'll likely do the HCI to the 2002 soon since its sitting at 74,961miles as of today and need a new clutch and slave cylinder anyway. That should give me time to figure our the route I'm gaining to ultimately take with the zr2. Thanks again
$1800 for an adapter plate is crazy. If i can get a plate cut i have the cad design. Found a few m122 on marketplace for $5-$700 but for how much demuese wants ill just purchase a lsa .
Hi Richard, great idea for the blower insulation. Wondering if a Holley low ram intake base or midsize with a home made flat aluminum adapter plate would work. My concern is hood clearance. Looks like you have the stock truck alternator bracket. The alternator looks taller than the top of the blower. Wondering how much space.😊
All these swaps are always showing a truck block and usually for a truck application. I wanna know if this would actually work in a swap in a newer car w an LS3. This does not look like there'd be enough clearance to clear the cowl in most newer cars.
$1750 USD (from Demeuse) for the adapter kit ONLY, then the price (and perhaps headache) of a used blower is too close to the $3000 overall price of a TorqueStorm Tuner Kit. The TS kit is still the 'Budget King' from a realistic and 'all parts purchased' stand point. While the packaging of a PD kit and it's charge cooling is nice, the TS kit still remains king.
Very true, but a Torquestorm won't make the low rpm torque that a setup like this is capable of. That being said.. the torquestorm is an excellent centrifugal blower, and more efficient at lower rpm than some other popular centrifugal blowers of it's size.
When are they going to start making intakes for these newer superchargers for small block and big block Chevy's? I don't want a big supercharger sticking out of my hood.
Great video. I'm getting back into the performance end of things and I'm wondering where to start with tuning. I have an 05 Sierra with a 5.3 . If I do something like this, will a hand held tuner allow the proper files to be down loaded? Is there a different system needed to change the factory tune or do I need to completely bypass the factory ECM and install the Holley system you use? I'd love to see a video on how you tune these engines.
I'm in over 5k and haven't even put it together yet...injectors, coil packs, terminator x, lower tub to put the adapter plate on, the adapter plate, the blower, and the throttle body.....not including the tires, tune and rear end i need to handle that much power... cha ching cha ching
What intake would you recommend for a 4.8 or 5.3 to put an m112 supercharger off of a ford lighting? Could I get by without using the intercooler ? would I gain any hp or just wasting my time?
I just realized that when you were putting the throttlebody and adapter on that it was actually playing backwards and you were pulling the stuff off lol I thought that was slick how you tightened the bolts and the adapter twisted right into place lol
Damn, that is just sick. Weren't you a bit concerned running damn near 15 pounds of boost on that test rig? Maybe it being as worn as it was allowed that much boost? Is there a way to throttle that boost down for other applications? I am looking at maybe 10 pounds max. Anyway, thanks for the great video.
If you wanted to upgrade the stock crank, rods and pistons is there a kit out there you recommend? I see Texas Speed makes a kit, but not sure it’s good for supercharged engines…
For a 455 Olds in a motorhome, max 4500 rpm, how well would this work for a boost in low end torque? What if it is run at low boost and no intercooler (vertical clearance is a problem)?
Hey Richard. I'm looking to do this. I have a line on the blower. I'm having trouble finding the demuse adapter plates. Could you send me a link. I was also wondering if you know anyone in Ontario that installs or could install this, and tune it. Thanks Patrick
It is a superior street car setup. M122 blowers can be had well under a grand you could get it done for about 3k or so if you shop smart. That isn't bad all in. Guys only talk about the price of the turbo(s) on turbo setups and don't talk about how much it is all in after the supporting mods.
@@richardholdener1727 the throttle body inlet is on the opposite side so it wouldn't interfere with the alternator, and would allow for use of stock location air intake, it also appears the mounting holes for the throttle body hold down bolts may work with a 92 or 102mm throttle body, but it may be ford or roush proprietary. The positioning of the charger pulley also seems like it would give decent pulley coverage without needing another pulley in the system, the routing seems like it could go from tensioner, idler, alt, to tensioner, idler, supercharger, alt. ( although this may cause slip on the alternator, as i'm not sure how tall the demuse setup places the supercharger) either way, no stretching or re routing the MAF wiring cause stock location, no battery relocation to fit an airbox in the battery tray area, and still get decent access to driver side ignition coil bracket once everything is on, instead of under the intake piping.
So what were the mods on the 5.3L to get the 400+ on motor? With the newer 2022 5.3L what are we typically seeing with mods? I’m seeing supercharger kits and they’re saying 515ish HP on a stock motor, seems low compared to a supercharged Coyote that can yield 700+ on a stock motor. Just curious what mods would be best on a new gen LS 5.3L?
Im swaping a 5.3l in my dads blazer xtreme and he wants to add a lsa supercharger. You think a 650hp goal is achievable with a big cam and that blower on pump? @@richardholdener1727
Prices on these will triple. ....... by the end of this video....
Good thing I bought one several years ago cheeeep.....
I figured more and then I watched the video. There has to be a better/cheaper option, given the not-at-all-bolt-on nature.
the gt500 M122 were already high bc of the Cad blower video. They were JUST starting to come back down. Lucky I found another source of low cost blowers that better than the M122. I'm just not telling people what cars theyre on lol
Always does
@@AlchemistHawk won’t hurt to tell us bro come on
Just picked up a 2300 5.8 blower with 10k miles on it for $250.00 that my buddy had sitting on the shelf at his shop collecting dust from a blower swap a few years ago.
If you really paid 250 bucks you stole it. They're worth 1500+ all day.
Did you buy the full kit? I’m trying to figure out what the heigh is on jt
"I said what I said !" and I'm always happy that you do ! Cat's been outta the bag 8 hours now , blowers are probably what comes after "W" . I loved the look of the setup on the live chat , even happier it has performance to match .
Torque numbers are Awsome.Nice machine work.CNC machines these days are just amazing.
That to date is the best video. It went step by step thru the process. Excellent video sir.
You're so freaking awesome dude. I don't know what fuels you after watching the live streams though. So many elementary questions and you keep on trucking, smiling, and posting up videos. You're truly a saint, RH!
I laughed when I saw you reversed the 5.3 TB removal footage to look like a TB install. I was like, wait a minute, did that part just defy gravity and float into place lol. Slick.
THE MAGIC OF EDITING
We completed the install of the m122 on my GTO. Still got some tuning left left to do. Definitely not cheap to make sure it is not heat soaking. On a base tune to make it drivable, it is awesome! Torque does not stop, and power is still on the table. Just did a 600+ mile run to KY for LS Fest East. Drive it there and back from VA to KY and back. This thing is too fun!
Nice work!
@@richardholdener1727 Bad Company Inc. Located out of Toano, VA did an amazing job on it!
How did you make out with heigh clearance? What do you say the total is with the blower and the lower ?
You able to run the stock hood ?
@@DBTUNED-CT can’t run a stock hood. The good thing about the theme of the build is Wasteland / post apocalyptic…so I just cut a big hole in the hood. It sticks up pretty high. I also didn’t use the ultra low ram intake either. Talking total money for the build…it’s over $10k for everything we did. Can’t wait to get this fully tuned to see what it really makes. Just ordered a new pulley system and a clutch to handle up to 1200hp…calculating what it’s potential, plus nitrous, it will be close. We shall see.
@@hybred757 any chance you can measure for my what it is from the top of the valley plate to the top of the blower ?
Sorry to say Richard, but there isn’t a so called “cheap supercharger”.
People see me walking down the road and think I'm hitchhiking, I tell them no thanks, I've just watched alot of speed Secret videos, my thumb is stuck that way, I call it the Holdener spraine, It only hurts when I reach for my wallet. 😁
You get to have all the fun 😁
LS engines: "and so do we"
Super stoked on this series!!
Oooohhhhhhh excited for this one
I know right I’m looking forward to the next am live stream
This guy put the the big oval mono plane throttle body on an ls. God bless you.
Ordered my adapter for my 6.2, don't know if I have ever met a nice guy than Tom Demuse. Took the time to educate me about the product and how it was drilled out for several other blowers already if I decided to upgrade. Told me everything I needed to get everything installed, even took the time to look up parts (without me asking) to make 100% sure I got the right stuff. Even gave me estimated wheel hp off of his build. If the parts work half as good as his customer service it will be more than amazing
hi bro from where you order it, any link website.
Same question here boss ? Any links
How much was it $1800+ ?
Should try it on the 3800 ?
I've had the chance to meet Tom Demuse in person and he's honestly one of the coolest guys I've talked too
The real question is whether or not if this is a cheaper setup than the lsa blowers. Considering the lsa blowers are coming down in price and it doesn’t require an adapter plate.
It requires an adapter plate for a lot of setups
Depends if it's cathedral or rectangle ports heads
You are doing the lords work my friend
That low speed torque is absolutely wild. Holey cow. I might consider a roots blower instead of a centrifugal for my Vette.
I was eyeballing the Whipple water cooled super charger kits for my 6.0 L96 on ebay that are only $7k with a programmer and canned tune. Now I'm starting to consider finding a cheap junkyard blower and doing it all myself.
The e85 content you've provided is invaluable however a large number of your viewers apply your craft to there dayley drives so the 91 octain infomation is equally if no more valuable than e85 , keep up the great work , your videos are very educational
91 COMING
BTW: Aussiespeed sells an adapter to mount the Ford/Eaton M112 Truck supercharger onto a Weiand 142 intake manifold.
I dont think the m112 would not be as efficient as anything on the market?
Ls?
No the m112 is not as efficient as other blowers.
The m112 blower as fitted to lightnings, cobras etc has pretty restrictive inlet tract and a different bolt pattern to the gt500. Also the throttle body is on the opposite side of the blower case.
I wouldn't run that I'd at least run an m122 from a gt500. That would be bare minimum.
Not exactly a low budget install IMHO. Sure, the GT500 M122 last I looked was $300-400 used, I bought mine many years ago for $200 a low mile take off. That said this nicely engineered kit looks based on a $550 Magnusson tub lower with the custom intercooler, and adapter plates, fuel rails. Not sure of the kit cost but I'm betting well north of a grand. I'm currently looking at the feasibility of using a low ram, adapter plate and meth injection on my 5.3. Enjoying the videos!
@Randy Zagarri 1350 on eBay and a couple uses ones locally for a Grand. Spot on
@Randy Zagarri They were around $500+shipping retail (from wrecking yards, certified good) when he did the live stream.
I went to Demuse engineering and their adapter plate kit is about 3 grand. An the cheapest gt500 supercharger I found was about 2 grand on ebay. So unless you have one or can buy one extremely cheap I don't see it being worth the hassle. But he did say the prices would go up lol.
That is cheap as hell for boost especially with a blower. This is a much more fun street setup vs turbos imo.
@@GS-cy8iy you must be talking about the 2.3 tvs. A 2.1 liter m122 blower can be had well under a grand.
Man I LOVE the engine durability of the 5.3 platform (usually reserved for "big block race engines") and innovations today, as opposed to 40+ years ago. Way back when it was a daunting task (and big $ ) to put a rootes blower (detroit diesel) on an engine a make it run well. It still costs lots of $$ but at least now, ya don't have to be a NASCAR engine build shop to produce respectable HP.
Yeah buddy ready for the 2nd video
Looking forward to all the tests on this setup, currently building 9.5:1 408 that I plan on adding 91 pump gas boost to down the road. Was looking at the Vortech kit for ~3500$ and this combo seems to be right around the same price.
How lbs of boost will that Vortec make?
@@matthewvarnam4302 The Vortech LS swap tuner kit comes with the V3 which is a 775hp blower, so maybe 7-8psi on a 408. Good match for my goals with 91 octane. Probably better than the M122 and worse than a the 2300 ford blowers.
@@matthewvarnam4302 With large 2" diameter equal-length headers, the boost backpressure would be reduced, for certain.
@@rancherlee m122 would be way more fun on the street though imo. Would be a torque monster and very fun.
Haha ok Richard I bought a dirt cheap Gt500 blower 750usd for my gen3 5.7 hemi 2014 ;). Put some pressure on Demuse to make an adapter :).
So break down of price looks like this.
Blowers can be found at the price listed but will probably go up.
$400-$800 m122 blower
$350 for throttle body kit
($100 if you are doing dbw and supply your own throttle body)
$1750 Adapter plate, intercooler and fuel rails
$250 pulley kit
$587 Magnuson lower tub
So total price could be between:
$3087-$3737
As long as the price of the supercharger doesn't go up significantly. Also keep in mind the other things like water tank, pump and whatever else is needed to make the air to water intercooler work. It not a bad deal but some may choose to go a different route. All depends on how well this fits your needs. I will say I got to speak with the guy that sells the adapter and he seems like a great guy that is very helpful. So if you don't like the price please be respectful.
@Randy Zagarri well in some parts of the country that is false. I found three, all under $700 in my area when this video was posted. Granted, they have all sold since then. Lol but I am sure some parts of the country are more expensive than others.
Very nice breakdown and well said.
I could have sworn I saw one of these type of blowers for around $500 mark, but that was months ago. At least the "realistic" cost is still in line with what I found my LSA for, so I can't be sad about that lol.
Great video once again Richard! You're doing God's work
Only thing good about the Ford supercharger is they are readily available compared to the sts supercharger. Prices might go up some but I doubt much. The adapters will be the hard part to get and those will possibly go up
You can get a new LSA blower kit with the ZL1 top for $3000 that’s including the intercooler and water pump. This route is more money once you buy the adapter. So then you can use decamped injectors, a hellcat walbro. So $3300 for everything that fits like factory.
@@Cultofpersonality09129 I would prefer to have an LSA over the Ford blower with adapters anyways. But where are you finding the LSA that cheap, ive noticed the pricing going up the past few years and I think around $4500 was the last time I priced one put but that was also with injectors.
@@Cultofpersonality09129 I too would like to know where your getting *NEW* LSA blower, ZL1 lid, cooler, and pump for $3k?? Let us know please!
Someone like this when those 3k LSA kits get linked to lol
That dude should make one for the 4v 4.6. How many of those motors are out there in need of a blower? As far as I know, you have to find a lower off of an 03/04 Cobra and that's the only way to put a roots or twin-screw on one.
They made 2.1 Kenne bells for em back in the day I think they were non intercooler so power is limited. I would run an 03 cobra lower so you can run the awesome blowers they make for those like vmps gen3r
15 psi, be nice to measure the current ring gap just for reference, oh and check to see if they butted up at all.
Talked with Tom Demuse for quite a while at a local car show. His LS swapped Sonoma is sick as hell.
IT IS COOL
I thought I heard you say that upping the carbs didn’t make a difference it was in like a 8-71. I’m mistaken though. It doesn’t matter what was said or what I thought. Thanks for putting the number in the description too.
Chevy tuff with ford stuff 😆 🤣 😂
I dunno, thats kinda like sayin a Cummins from a dodge ram is a Mopar engine... these are Eaton superchargers.... so??? I dunno?? either way it works!!!!
Hope Richard gets a nap in today from the late nights at westech
Liked. What's not to like with a Righteous Blower on a modern day 327, um, 5.3. Great torque per cube stock, even Betta, Blowin'.
5.3 is a 325ci not 327 just saying cause some people don't know.
This guy is the man!
Seems like total cost is $3-4000 using available parts costs now. Whats the advantage over LSA at that price?
Price. In my area LSA's are nowhere to be found and when I travel I get estimate's of $5k-$7k for a 100,000mi motor.
@@hardball107 I think he is talking about the supercharger, not the entire engine
Nothing really. An LSA is very good blower set up for the money. Boost district makes it very easy.
@@AlchemistHawk Well the 2300 is quite a bit bigger than the 1900 LSA blower, so if you were looking to push past 700-800 hp the 2.3 might be preferable.
@@AlchemistHawk last I checked boost district had LSA blower kits in the 3-4k range depending on if the blower was used or new. Very good value imo
Sure did get my attention with that sweet music.👍
Your next videos are going to be gold on this. Pump gas comparisons, cam swaps, looking forward to it! I see on the pulley it says "Demeuse Engineering" and your video description says "Demuse" may want to correct that.
This is brilliant and I'm gonna give it to my suburban
The golden part about these adapters is they include the inter cooler. So much power to be gained with one….
That oval throttle body will have awful low speed drive ability. RE: A small movement of the throttle arm = huge air flow change. This is why some throttles have an egg shaped throttle arm, GM uses a ski jump on the back of some throttle blades , Ford uses a toothed throttle body gasket / dual staged throttle blades. In the case of drive by wire, the software will take care of this.
BIGGER CAN BE A PROBLEM -ESPECIALLY ON A BLOWER
@@richardholdener1727 where do i get them from? I need that for my 6.2
Holley HP software allows for TB rate of change blanking (R.O.C. blanking) adjustments for just this very thing. The Holley is very versatile
Not if someone knows what they’re doing with tuning. I’ve seen these style throttle bodies very drivable on the street with vmp blowers
I like watching you install the throttle body and spacer backwards... then playing it in reverse
Perfect way to get away with an ls swapped Ford and not get yelled at 😂
No ls swap ford's are still gay and totally unnecessary.
@@midnight347 🤣🤣🤣 take the plug out of your butt brother. No need to be so uptight about how someone spends their money
How much taller is that blower combo in the L33 compared to the L33 when it had the stock truck intake on it? Would this set yo with with a kwik wide bracket corvette spacing accessory bracket kit. I have a zr2 4x4 s10 (2000 year model) than I've been gathering parts for and the last think I need to get is that corvette spaced accessory bracket kit that kwik makes. I plan to daily the truck and I have a turbo I had planned to remote mount since I will be running an A/C system (also from kwik). Not sure if I should try thus or just go N/A with the truck build. I have 2002 WS6 6speed TransAm than in planning to do an H/C/I on and just leave the 125/150 shot on it that I've been running. I build a stroker 383 also with nitrous and converted to an lt1's T56 in my old 89 formula firebird. So most everything I've done is either just built motors with or without nitrous and I wanted to do this 4000lbs S10 as my first LS swapped forced induction build that i can still daily drive (went a bit over board in the 89's stroker 383 and it wasnt very traffic friendly but a hell of alot of fun. I may consider going this route also long as I dont have to run a 4+" cowl hood to clear the engine like I ended up with in the 89 formula firebird. I figure I'd have to do a 2" just to clear the truck intake anyway and the opened back of the cowl would help some with heat extraction from under the hood but I would like to be able to see the other side of the truck since the scoop on the 89 meant I could see the pop up head light with out leaning forward. Thank in advance. You do great videos. I'll likely do the HCI to the 2002 soon since its sitting at 74,961miles as of today and need a new clutch and slave cylinder anyway. That should give me time to figure our the route I'm gaining to ultimately take with the zr2. Thanks again
Chevy guys always drool over Ford parts/chassis lol keep being our followers!
Hello Mr. Holdner, how much taller is this setup? Wondering about hood and firewall clearance with my 5.3 Ranger.
Thanks
$1800 for an adapter plate is crazy. If i can get a plate cut i have the cad design. Found a few m122 on marketplace for $5-$700 but for how much demuese wants ill just purchase a lsa .
I had no idea that they had a kit for the GT 500 supercharger to go on in LS . Now will it all fit underneath the hood of an C5 with 1.5 raised hood .
Richard could you do engine dyno videos too I want to here some old engines and new engines on the dyno by you and custom variations
this is an engine dyno
This is awesome great work as always
Selling all my pork bellies and Corn futures.
Moving everything into Ford Superchargers.
I figured out how I'm gonna mount an LSA to an DI LT. As soon as parts arrive. I'll send a vid
I really like you used a stock motor. I hope you really put this motor threw the ringer.
I've got one of Tom's kits with a 122 on a 6.0 w/862 heads on a summit stg2 cam.. I can't wait too fire it
And thankfully I got my blower a year ago for 250,😁
@@andrewmoss8909 what year 6.0
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Hey any chance you could tell me the height of the setup? For example from valley plate to the top
Hi Richard, great idea for the blower insulation. Wondering if a Holley low ram intake base or midsize with a home made flat aluminum adapter plate would work. My concern is hood clearance. Looks like you have the stock truck alternator bracket. The alternator looks taller than the top of the blower. Wondering how much space.😊
Tom Demuse makes an adapter for the low ram or hi ram
All these swaps are always showing a truck block and usually for a truck application. I wanna know if this would actually work in a swap in a newer car w an LS3. This does not look like there'd be enough clearance to clear the cowl in most newer cars.
don't know on hood clearance
Ya , because there are so many of the GT 500 cars around in the first place.
that TORQUE...... I NEEEEEEED.......!!!!
$1750 USD (from Demeuse) for the adapter kit ONLY, then the price (and perhaps headache) of a used blower is too close to the $3000 overall price of a TorqueStorm Tuner Kit. The TS kit is still the 'Budget King' from a realistic and 'all parts purchased' stand point. While the packaging of a PD kit and it's charge cooling is nice, the TS kit still remains king.
Very true, but a Torquestorm won't make the low rpm torque that a setup like this is capable of.
That being said.. the torquestorm is an excellent centrifugal blower, and more efficient at lower rpm than some other popular centrifugal blowers of it's size.
The torque storm sadly doesn’t make any power, and by the time I does your out of rpm . 🗑️
My goodness, you are the man!
You should do this test on a 6.0
When are they going to start making intakes for these newer superchargers for small block and big block Chevy's? I don't want a big supercharger sticking out of my hood.
can u do this with a 6.0 motor
How much is the kit? Will this work on a F body or truck only?
that would look badass under the hood of anything
You had me at "low buck blower"
are these adaptors and intercooler available to purchase or what? Need info on that
YES-THE PERSON WHO MAKES THEM WAS LISTED IN THE VIDEO AND IN THE DESCRIPTION (DEMUSE ENGINEERING)
Great video. I'm getting back into the performance end of things and I'm wondering where to start with tuning. I have an 05 Sierra with a 5.3 . If I do something like this, will a hand held tuner allow the proper files to be down loaded? Is there a different system needed to change the factory tune or do I need to completely bypass the factory ECM and install the Holley system you use? I'd love to see a video on how you tune these engines.
Look into hp tuners.
I love your work brother.
yes
YES YES
I'm in over 5k and haven't even put it together yet...injectors, coil packs, terminator x, lower tub to put the adapter plate on, the adapter plate, the blower, and the throttle body.....not including the tires, tune and rear end i need to handle that much power... cha ching cha ching
Oh yeah...and the intercooler and electric pump I bought today to cool the other intercooler
I have a 29 whipple I was going to put it on a termi he needs to make an adapter for that
If they made this kit for a 5.0L foxbody engine I would buy it in a heartbeat
Just ls swap it
By the way it's like a zillion intakes to make basically any blower fit a 302
@@tyjaebowie933 ls swap is terrible! No!!!!!! No more fn ls swapped ford's there is enough ruined ones out there now.
Swap a 351 in that bad boy and run one of these blowers on that.
Just a question… will this wonderful combination fit on a 1996 Lt1 ???
needs different adapter for that motor
@@richardholdener1727 thanks Richard … love your work!!!
That's a health motor. Can we put in my 72 C10?
You already said the whole cam gain would be the same if it was blower, supercharger, or turbo
So it being air to water would i need a ice box?
only for ice water-you can use just water for less cooling
What intake would you recommend for a 4.8 or 5.3 to put an m112 supercharger off of a ford lighting? Could I get by without using the intercooler ? would I gain any hp or just wasting my time?
this intake
Thanks. Can't tell what intake Can't see any picture or anything.
I just realized that when you were putting the throttlebody and adapter on that it was actually playing backwards and you were pulling the stuff off lol I thought that was slick how you tightened the bolts and the adapter twisted right into place lol
magic of editing
Damn, that is just sick. Weren't you a bit concerned running damn near 15 pounds of boost on that test rig? Maybe it being as worn as it was allowed that much boost? Is there a way to throttle that boost down for other applications? I am looking at maybe 10 pounds max. Anyway, thanks for the great video.
Change the pulley size
@@tylrpnk99 dear please recommend the pulley size.
@@mohammedalmamari6662 smaller diameter than stock OEM spec.
@@m1cklife168 if you want less boost you wanna run larger pullies.
I hope you you are gonna do a 6.0 or 6.2 next.
If you wanted to upgrade the stock crank, rods and pistons is there a kit out there you recommend? I see Texas Speed makes a kit, but not sure it’s good for supercharged engines…
summit Pro LS
For a 455 Olds in a motorhome, max 4500 rpm, how well would this work for a boost in low end torque? What if it is run at low boost and no intercooler (vertical clearance is a problem)?
the rpm has no effect on the need for an intercooler
@@richardholdener1727 The amount of boost and heat in the charge air should determine the need for intercooler, correct?
I can't contact the people 4 in the adapter plate I called the mailboxes full and I can't find their website. Any advice richard holdener?
How much 'Cheaper' is this from actually just getting an LSA adapter that's like $4k
Hey Richard. I'm looking to do this. I have a line on the blower. I'm having trouble finding the demuse adapter plates. Could you send me a link. I was also wondering if you know anyone in Ontario that installs or could install this, and tune it. Thanks Patrick
do a search for demuse engineering on face book
That damn thing is a freak…… and I like it
superchargers are really cool but there just so damn expensive
It is a superior street car setup. M122 blowers can be had well under a grand you could get it done for about 3k or so if you shop smart. That isn't bad all in. Guys only talk about the price of the turbo(s) on turbo setups and don't talk about how much it is all in after the supporting mods.
Where is all the 2009 and up 5.7 hemi camshaft tests?????
How much height was added by this blower? It appears that it’s the same size as the truck intake
Awesome! I wonder what it will do for an LQ4?
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SAME-THE BLOWER I USED WILL GO TO 900 HP
Would love to see this compared to an LSA blower.
this will support much more than an LSA blower
Demuse makes an r2650 adapter too, which I think would work better on a Truck setup, try the roush 2650 next? And will the 102 mm tb fit the 2650?
why would a 2650 work better
@@richardholdener1727 the throttle body inlet is on the opposite side so it wouldn't interfere with the alternator, and would allow for use of stock location air intake, it also appears the mounting holes for the throttle body hold down bolts may work with a 92 or 102mm throttle body, but it may be ford or roush proprietary. The positioning of the charger pulley also seems like it would give decent pulley coverage without needing another pulley in the system, the routing seems like it could go from tensioner, idler, alt, to tensioner, idler, supercharger, alt. ( although this may cause slip on the alternator, as i'm not sure how tall the demuse setup places the supercharger) either way, no stretching or re routing the MAF wiring cause stock location, no battery relocation to fit an airbox in the battery tray area, and still get decent access to driver side ignition coil bracket once everything is on, instead of under the intake piping.
So what were the mods on the 5.3L to get the 400+ on motor? With the newer 2022 5.3L what are we typically seeing with mods? I’m seeing supercharger kits and they’re saying 515ish HP on a stock motor, seems low compared to a supercharged Coyote that can yield 700+ on a stock motor. Just curious what mods would be best on a new gen LS 5.3L?
the new 2023 5.3L is not an LS-it is a direct injected LT motor.
Prices have already jumped from 800 to 1700
Can we se how this compares to a lsa supercharger. A comparison on the 5.3l and 4.8l
this blower could make more than a smaller LSA if you tried to max them out
Im swaping a 5.3l in my dads blazer xtreme and he wants to add a lsa supercharger. You think a 650hp goal is achievable with a big cam and that blower on pump? @@richardholdener1727