How I'd Fix the NFL Draft in Madden
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2024
- The NFL Draft is almost here. Let’s look at it in Madden NFL 24 and discuss what needs changed. We compare it to the real life draft, as well as other games like Madden NFL 07 and ESPN NFL 2K5.
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You can't even see who YOU'VE DRAFTED SO FAR? That's minimum viable guys, what are we doing
And that was something in Madden 17 on the 360 and the next few games. Like wtf?
Yeah it’s a pain, there is times were im in a late round and I forget “did I get a player at x position yet?”
Especially when trying to build multiple teams
I’m almost certain you can
I agree with everything tho but pretty sure you can check by clicking one of the triggers or something like that
"If I want to name my player 'Ballsack McGee,' let me, god damn it"
Truer words never have been said
Madden 23 once had the Eagles drafting not 1 but 2 QBs in the top 10 of a draft. Not to mention they had Jalen Hurts too
My guess it counted need and im also guessing hurts wasnt at a really high rating but if it didnt count any prior picks then it likely forgot that they filled that need. Probably obvious oversight that just wasnt given much attention to
@@majintv24key word being probably
Me personally I would also love to name a player ballsack McGee.
nfl legend
Balls isn’t blocked in case you were wondering
Everything in Madden NFL 24 is trash.
Amen to that brother
Yes that is correct 👏🏿
I miss Sega 😢
I much prefer the older maddens over the newer ones but cmon not everything trash
@@Wolf10193 your problem is you like wwe as a grown man, fat pdf files in the main demographic
Football games only got better graphically but gameplay has been declining for almost 2 decades 😒
That’s debatable. The player models look goofy. Madden 10 has better lighting and grass textures too. 😂
Madden 25 - 17 all has good gameplay imo
@@fawnnahh7438it’s legit just the player faces that get better, maybe they add tattoos to some guys. They’re allowed to put out mid so they keep doing it, the games don’t even look that good, aside from when their annual trailers come out and some people get hope
Even the graphics are debatable. But gameplay, features, replayability are all ass.
Playbooks matter too much because that’s a 79 overall receiver is able to have all pro caliber years.
I have to play my best receiver out the slot because God forbid a downfield pass doesn’t get intercepted by a 5’8 cb
If I simulate an entire season, everybody has insane stats
The draft is terrible It feels like the only good players are at the top of the first round. Everybody else is pretty much ass.
AI teams trading up in the draft would go such a long way in improving franchise.
Asking EA to fix, even the smallest detail in their Madden games looks to be imposible at this point. I think it's time we stop demanding shit from Electronic Arts since for the most part they are not willing or they don't care.
Just remember ea had great draft scouting and trading not madden, but nfl head coach 09
We need new hobbies as guys
@@Whoyouwishyouwere or do what I do play old games enjoy the past games. I have more fun with nfl head coach 09 I even find myself yelling and laughing cussing at my TV at player dropping catch or my qb act like retard or just situation where alot of your better young player get injured on ir for 4 to 5 week in preseason and all I could say was are you fucking shitting me
Been done that, haven’t bought a Madden since 18
@@ODMUSH haven't bought one since 09
AI should be used for the Faces of draft prospects, so that they are actually photorealistic. It means you don’t have to pay anyone for any likeness because it’s all computer generated, and it makes a far more diverse looking team.
They could also add stuff like hair and beards that change throughout a career. Young 21 year old guys with baby faces and a trendy haircut turn into grizzled old men with big beards
They did this in college football 25 hopefully it comes to madden
Franchise mode needs an overhaul. They've been slapping band-aids on it for years and that's how we've ended up with the mess we have today. Sadly the only way I can see them overhauling Franchise mode is if they can find a way to monetize it.
08 had little buffs you could use in your franchise mode that weren't great but were fun for flavor. Could also go out and let people pay to use XFL/ USFL/ CFL names and logos. Wouldn't be free, but would probably make money long term. Could also make a team creator or expansion/contraction system cost money. Hell, even future drafts with player names could likely be spun in with the new NCAA title.and cost money.
None of this should cost money, mind you, but they could monetize it if they wanted.
Dude…seeing college stats for potential draft picks in a game from 05. Like…what are we doing? It’s amazing how terrible and LAZY Madden really is.
I love the point about the lack of streamlined content. When you put a player on the trade block and receive offers you have to check every team individually. Back out, go to their roster, hope you remembered the player, heck his stats/contract, exit out, go back to the trade block then do this with every offer. Why can’t I click on players in the trade offer screen. Shits the absolute worst. lol
Madden don’t even have restrictive free agents or have the tender system anymore. It’s a fast food game
Something id love to see implemented into the draft is the feeling that youre in an actual war room. Id like to see the constant opinions of my staff. See a scout or coach get frustrated that we havent pulled the trigger to trade up for a player the wanted.
EA would make this so gimmicky and it would be repetitive af
If they could do it right (unlikely) it would be really cool. Maybe it’s just an event for Round 1, and the rest of the draft is normal. There could be cutscenes and timed events for making a trade, calling a player, etc.
I like some of your ideas. I like EAs nhl draft. Having players who are low/medium/high confidence in them being franchise/elite/top6forward/bottom6forward. When you draft a high elite player they don’t always pan out. And sometimes a player who is draft as a med top 6 forward can become an elite player. I think this is a great system.
I do like how it is difficult to draft on madden. Drafting isn’t easy in real life. There are certainly a lot of problems though with the current draft.
Not sure if this is just a PS4 thing. But the part I HATE the most about franchise draft classes, is that the rookies come into the league wearing helmets and facemasks from like 2009. Nobody wears Riddell Revolutions anymore. Some defensive backs will even be wearing a helmet that a defensive tackle would wear. Come onnnnn EA.
not draft-related really but would love to have a "Rookie Tracker" section that shows all the rookies stats during the season, would be cool & easier to see what rookies you're competing with for ROY awards & just to have them & their stats all in one spot
Would be cool if the draft was split into 3 days. After the final pick of that day, have “Day X Recap” and “Advance to Next Day”
I agree with you. Having AI for owners in franchise would be a much immersive experience for franchise...
The NFL has so much media for every second so that needs to be a part of franchise mode. Every draft pic gets analyzed for 700000 hours.
Media presentation needs to be added
Head Coach 09 has a great draft system as well. In season scouting with updates throughout the season from Adam Schefter on how the top prospects are performing while they're still in college, even up through the bowl games. Real time updates on how prospects are performing during their pro days and the combine. And scouting reports from Schefter when the top prospects get taken. All EA has to do is copy themselves.
But they hate themselves! They seem to actively despise the old era's where they actually produced quality titles.
I love how NFL 2K5 is always the go to when giving examples of what to do 😂…It’s like EA is punishing us for liking that game
Remember when EA said they'd never even looked at 2K5? How true that was I don't know, but they DO know how lauded and celebrated that game was and is so saying they've not even looked at it themselves is such a spiteful statement.
@@jdevlin1910Right… and I know what they said was a bold face lie…there’s plenty of people in development and marketing saw what 2K was doing…They didn’t just secure the licensing because of the price the game was, it was because the game itself gave more for your dollar…If the game was trash, they wouldn’t have done what they did with the licensing
Unless your fans scream or boo at your draft selections like they did in madden 04 and 05 idc 😂😂😂
I thought they did this a lot on PS2.
I think that the best way to make the drafts more fun is every 15 years theres a “generational talent” that creates an 85+ overall to save a franchise
That already exists
Who the fuck is gonna play 15 years lmao
@@DiobeticDaily good point lmao
@@DiobeticDaily most people
@FeveTen I don't know anyone who waste that much time lol
The best NFL Draft I've ever seen in a video game is NFL Head Coach. But my GOD, the stuff you have to get through to get through it.
It's also not a very good game, so you have to deal with that as well. Lol.
Head Coach 09 is better and has a great draft system as well. In season scouting with updates throughout the season from Adam Schefter on how the top prospects are performing while they're still in college, even up through the bowl games. Real time updates on how prospects are performing during their pro days and the combine. And scouting reports when the top prospects get taken. All EA has to do is copy themselves.
I’ve tried to like this video 8 times already
No i mean i literally tried to like this video like 8 times but TH-cam was glitching or something. Now it’s working 🤷🏾♂️😂
something i think is being overlooked is that AI voices can allow for commentators to be able to say less common names, so that would be something cool we can consider
I specifically remember 2k all stars being able to say my last name. Every madden before wouldnt. Until 24. But it was very few and far in between and only as a HB Not as a qb, wr, or anyone on defense. But here recently I haven’t heard my name at all 😢
Yep, I think the combination of AI voices and AI generated text could theoretically lead to completely fresh in game commentary for every game, though I doubt Madden is in any hurry to innovate
I have a feeling this one of those easier said then done ideas. They could have a franchise mode app and you can download the draft class on your tablet so you can have the prospects there in front of you without leaving the screen.
I know that the NFL gave exclusive rights to EA for the football simulation game, but I feel like the NFL would also really benefit if it happened to have an OOTP equivalent, kinda like how the MLB has Out of the Park Baseball AND MLB The Show. It doesn't even need to be as advanced in graphics as Madden is _supposed_ to be. Have it be just a management simulator while EA's can be more like the "experience" of "playing" on an NFL team or even coaching one with the option of doing management stuff in things like Franchise mode
They have somewhere in there old files called nfl head coach 09
right? we have Football Manager for soccer, OOTP for MLB, Franchise Hockey for the NHL, Pro Basketball Manager for not-NBA, F1 Manager/Motorsport Manager for racing, Tennis Manager for tennis, pro cycling manager for fucking Cycling and for football? Front Office looks dated af, Head Coach 09 is decades old, Pro Strategy is okay but idk. Football Coach might be the best, i think, but it's a college game. Its obvius there's a market for this why not capitalize on it? ffs
@@klebersousa. FOF really would be great just with a UI overhaul
11:06 two things about this, first off shout out to the Madden Modding Community for doing this with Start Today, Madden on PC is the way to go as it is right now.
Another thing, EA will never do this because then there would be literally zero reason to buy the next Madden (assuming they keep releasing $70 roster updates).
with the roger goodell things that does kinda seem like he probably wouldn’t do that, but honestly even if they just had a player model of a commissioner and a voice would still be such an improvement
Ea hire this man
Another issue is when you hire a coordinator as your new head coach they dont start with a 0-0 record they are given the record their previous team(s) had with them as coordinator kills the immersion
this is such a good and easy fix, its so sad to see how lazy EA can be... and yet they have exclusive rights to "Simulated" football
Great video. I completely agree with everything you said and suggested.. 100%
As a fan of the draft and Madden this is a great video! 2K5 is still the GOAT.
I don't have anything to add because I have a lot of complaints and been writing about this stuff for a while. Great job - you had some ideas even I didn't think of 👏🏻👏🏻
I appreciate the NFL 2K menu music included within this video
Once again I love the amount of detail explanation you try to put in your complaints and even with videos like these on how they can be fixed.
It’s why I’m still subbed. Keep it up as always.
There’s also the issue of when you get into later years, even as soon as 2027/28 they are all the generic player with the same helmet, same build (face, muscle mass on arms, and accessories) and they will all end up wearing 22 or 11 on the field. It gets very annoying.
It’s crazy how there isn’t an AI to help npc’s say our names properly 🤐💀
If I’m not mistaken, nba live 2000 or 2001 they allowed you to draft from “March madness”. The top 3 picks would have an animation walking up to the podium. You can fact check!
That whole thing about Michael Penix Jr was funny to me after what happened in the actual draft
SOFTDRINKTV always gotta give an instant like 👍
Madden must have paid the Falcons to draft Michael Penix just to show their draft logic isn’t THAT bad 😂
Great video. I like the Amarius Mims pick for the Packers.
“Touchdown” Mickey Mouse is gonna go places, bro! 😅
you shouldve showed b-roll of nba 2k11's draft, it literally had the commissioner on the podium like u said, & in mycareer the player would wear the team's hat like irl. ik the newera-NFL partnership would love tht in madden
You’re so right about the players faces. Even in like madden 15 they had real photos of guys for autogenerated players. With the way AI is now they could definitely generate a bunch of fake images of people that don’t exist just to make it more realistic looking.
Just tested it with the Bears scenario. Here's the final response from GPT: In that scenario, I'd prioritize the generational talent at quarterback. A top-tier quarterback can significantly impact the success of a team in American football, as they're often the leaders on and off the field. While a standout wide receiver can be incredibly valuable, a franchise quarterback has the potential to shape the team's future for years to come.
That Cox story reminds of people creating realistic draft classes for NBA 2K a while back and not being able to properly write Kuminga, because funny first three letters. For 2K to add him the next year as official player in the normal spelling.
While Madden should have the easiest task for surnames of all these sports game. Just take the x most common US surnames + add whatever other names are/were in the NFL + whatever are the x most popular boys names in the US.
Also when it changes from the 3rd round to the 4th it should switch to day time because the draft on the third day is during the day and not at night time, just another aspect that could help with being more immersed into the draft feel
If I remember correctly, I believe EA's deal with ESPN expired when the last CBA expired. Not 100% certain they renewed that license
This is an easy fix. Put everything that made franchise great in previous maddens back into the game then add on to it. Right now franchise mode is a joke.
Outro was sick
Having the player you picked in the first round walk up and shake hands with the commissioner would be so cool!
It's amazing to know that WWE's GM Mode has a better draft system than the game about one of the sports that made it popular to begin with
2k with both WWE and NBA 2k24 are awesome I been binge playing both back and forth
I would like to see a vid on improving the off-season in Madden
Man I think it was Madden 25 (the one with Barry sanders on the cover) and it had the draft storylines that evolved over the course of the season
It's crazy how madden 10 had cpu trades, offers, kept track of what year they were drafted, what number they were drafted, and what awards they go on to win.
I would like to add my own feature. If your draft class is imported from the college football game, it would show a college highlight reel from who you drafted
I use to love adam schefter talking in madden 15 durring the draft
I never ever even noticed the fans at the draft 😂
With all the issues that it has I do have to say that the actual variation they’ve been adding to roomie ratings and play styles is a breath of fresh air.
I was doing a chise with my friend who found a 93 speed quarterback as a projected unstaffed player. Not only did he turn out to be a 70 overall qb but he also had receiving and ball carrier stats good enough to make him a 71 overall wr and rb. Examples such as this show that although it is slow, EA might actually know what they’re doing and makes me eager to see how they approach college football 25
Another thing I hate about the draft is the CPU... for whatever reason will... alot of times... take a player you need or wanted right before your pick even if they don't need him. Perfect example... I'm the Commanders and the Cardinals pick before me. I really need a middle linebacker and there happens to be one around I pick. The Cardinals signed not one, not two but three MLB in FA to 5+ mil a year multi-year contracts and they STILL took the MLB I wanted right before I picked. It's super annoying.
A note on having Goodell announce the picks. They dont NEED to record him saying everyone's names. Now that generative AI is a thing, you can have him record a script that has a bunch of different sounds and syllables in natural words and then use that data to AI generate all of the player names for the script.
It would take 20 minutes of recording and even a free ai could do it. You could do the same thing with the commentators. Sure, have them live record all the traditional importantly stuff, but then give them that same script and so now you can add endless new phrases and responses so its not the same 5 things repeated every time you get a game-sealing pick or an overtime winning field goal. This also would mean instead of only having one draft class read out by Goodell, its EVERY draft class you ever have in the game.
No one loses out on employment, the players get way more variety and content, and it doesnt cost EA ridiculous sums of money to produce
14:28 bro I 100% agree the cpu chooses the most awful helmets and some of them won’t even wear an Oakley visor even though when nfl players were visor in games they have to be Oakley because Oakley has a deal with the nfl
NFL Head Coach 09 was cool, Madden needs to take a lot of features from that game. It was cool game
I think the animation stuff sounds cool at first but after a few picks when you just want to skip anyway then you'd get tired of it very quickly
I miss when Trey Wingo did draft recaps for spotlight prospects who had interesting backstories where he’d read off some info about them. That along with a revamped news section would give these created players personalities and commitment to their careers.
I remember taking a qb at 1, and trading him to the BENGALS for chase, Hilton, and a 3rd. It was funny
This video is perfect, they need to listen! have great ideas!
The draft also needs some kinda feature to track your division rivals
We have Voice AI programs that only needs to listen to A voice for 30 seconds!
Then you can make it say whatever you want!
Would be easy to create
Nba 2k15-16 had adam silvers voice announcing the names of most players during the draft
I don't think it's too much of a reach to have at least some sort of animation for the first 3 - 10 picks, since those are usually the most hyped up ones. MLB The Show has an animation that plays for they first 3 picks picks that throws whatever player was picked into their new team's jersey and gives them a celebration animation with some music.
As for Goodell doing some voice over work, he could literally just record the line " With the NUMBER Pick in the YEAR Draft, the TEAM selects..." and just stitch together the separately recorded Number, Year and Team. He'd only have to really do Round 1 to give us some semblance of pageantry, and only would have to record Numbers and Teams once unless a team changed its name. He'd have to add one year each year, but they could probably just say "hey, we're going to record 40 years so we don't have to bring you in every year just to do this again."
The only thing you'd have to get Goodell and the commentary team in to tedious record is names every year. And I don't know
The 2K music under this is wonderful juxtaposition.
Bro the Attack on Titan music bout brought me to tears omg
2:57
7:34 best draft board ever
I really like the draft history and I feel like to add on to that they should have top performances like I wasn't a football fan before the 11 or 12 season but saw that Tom Brady throw 50 touchdowns and some top notch stats and you should be able to see stats for the players I don't know if you mentioned this soft drink but if you didn't I think it could be a nice idea and you can't customize a contract for rookies I feel like that should be a another great idea
Madden 06 had not only that. But you could see what year and how each player was acquired. Via trade, free agency, draft etc
@@Youdoxxikill I think I remember that I have Madden 06 for the Xbox 360 but I don't know if it's only for Xbox 360 or the other consoles
NFL Head Coach 09 was the best draft mode
Ballsack Mcgee 😂😂😂 I would change the stat's portion of drafting. They dont give you enough detail about the guys stats your about to draft, which is very irritating. They only show you his top 5 stats with the highest values.
Going to bed < watching SDTV before bed
Great points. I wish EA actually cared, but they don't. Too many people play and pay online, so they will never change franchise.
Also, the draft isn't bad. I don't think Nabers will drop out of the top 10, Dallas NEED OL help, and Q.Mitchell will be a top 15-20 pick. I think Fiske tap isn't good overall. Good athlete, but it will be a day 2 pick.
They made it actually good!!!!!
Head Coach 08 has a killer draft
at least the most consistent thing between madden 24 and 2k5 is the terrible draft logic. the bears will take 2 QBs with their first round picks, 2k5 has a love for running backs in the first round
after going back to the retro maddens on the xbox,ps2 and, ps3 emulators and playing those for few months now I really can't go back to playing this half cooked garbage EA puts out these days.
Nfl head coach 09 is everything we want present but improved version of it
Player comparisons would be great. At least for the first rounders.
This 2040 league you showed has caught my attention? which team are you controlling, would love a look at it, ik that’s not your usual type of content just curious haha
One last thing I would add would be ti randomize dev traits when you import a class, I’m not saying 100% random for every prospect, but when you are building a class you can set a certain percent a player has X factor, so like Caleb Williams isn’t 100% X factor, but he has a higher chance than Spencer rattler
I dont think a small animation with the new player in uniform on the stage would be too troublesome. You'd only have to do it for maybe the first 3-10 Draft picks. Just zoom into the stage, have it lift to reveal a silhouette walking forward and the player either fully in uniform or with a #1 jersey and cap on. Give them some small celebration animation and hype music to make it feel as big as its supposed to be.
As for Godell voicing, he could just get a good take of "With the NUMBER Pick of the YEAR Draft, the CITY TEAM selects..." and then seperately record the Numbers, Years, and Team names. Maybe they outdo themselves and decide to actually record some college names as well since they're dropping that NCAA game.
Could you do a retrospective on NHL hitz?
Look at the draft process in madden 13. Its so perfect. Rookies had generated real faces photos and had backstories and the draft was unpredictable and teams did their own research
Nfl2k5 is my number one video game of all time.
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But the draft was definitely the most flaws part,
Due to a bug that everybody drafts the same 4 positions in the first round
Your mock draft in the beginning is crazy man. You are WAY over valuing quarterbacks rn
Surprised you didn’t touch on the hidden vs normal problem… no real fog of war for rookies. I hate knowing instantly whether my pick was a “bust” just cuz they weren’t hidden.
Easy fix just say it’s hidden regardless of normal star superstar or x factor
I played the chiefs who had Travis Kelce retire but the next year the TE had the same number and it bothered me.
i don’t think they would invest this much into it, not just because it’s EA, but also because they don’t have the licensing for all of the draft prospects, every “real” draft class is made by players and not EA
5:40 oh ok fair, but also they probably wouldn’t put that much effort if they’re not saying the actual player names
Remember in nfl coach and the older maddens the crowd would actually boo or cheer? Barebone things like that is too much to ask for
6 QBs in the top 12 would be crazy