2k19 was amazing though..... they just fucked it all up again with 20 and now 21 is ass. I haven't bought any new sports games since 2018. Well I've bought one. NHL 20. That was it.
I have to agree. At least 2K devs fucking try. Lol. EA Sports is just full of hollow employees who have no life left in them to care about what fans say.
I remember playing the hell out of this game and grinding to like 80OVR, only to have my player be deleted for no reason. Literally gave up on this game after that
My player in 2k18 is a headache i mean cutscenes are cringy and you can’t skip it and you have that asian girl b fresh i swear i wanted to punch her face so bad. And i have a problem going back to my apartment game keep crashing when im about to enter the elevator. Waste of money and the worst game ever.
My player was still there, but all my badge progress was reset to -99999 or whatever. I kid you not. I tried to get 2K Support to fix it because it was something I know for a fact that could be fixed. IT was an issue impacting others in the community and Agent (youtuber) did it live on stream. They refused to fix my character and told me to buy more VC. I immediately deleted that trash off my system and haven't looked back.
I usually get me a 5 piece from a KFC and blow out the toilet later for a good price. Get some biscuits put some Tabasco on it and I'm gonna rip ass like no other. God damn love me some KFC worst decision is eating there and not blowing out their toilet bc if drive home im speeding like a mf 5 min later bc I'm gonna explode. Run right through the garage door kick down the door and tear up my bathroom God damn no fun.
Oddly enough, this was the first NBA 2K game I had, and I thought it was the bomb. I played little MyPlayer because it was obviously pay to win, but played so much MyLeague and customized just about every team. I remember making a Harlem Globetrotters roster that got 200 downloads and I was so happy. This shows how much better 2K is than EA
same here, my dad had 2k11-14 on my PS3 but never got around to playing it since I was into racing, but man only now do I realize how bad 2K18 was but I honestly had a happy experience with it
@@yousoldthebag I’m ok with that opinion, it could be vice versa. It can also go as 2K11 is the best game on ps3 generation and 2K16 is the best game on last gen
What really threw me off with 2k18 was the amount of product placement. I know 2k always had that but 2k18 was way over the top. Like I remember when u first go to the barbershop shop there’s a cutscene where the barbers talk about the jbl head phones. I was like “wtf?!?”
Still playing through my gm mode with Jackson Baldwin in his second season.. averaged a triple double on my pistons his rookie year lol in Jackson's second year I trades for Freddie staples too lol
@@shino1300 yeah because 2k has 0 depth in mycareer. There's nothing to do. That's why people feel like the storylines are needed. If 2k would actually take out the storylines and cutscenes, while adding lots of goals and depth to mycareer then it would be fun. Think about madden superstar mode in madden 08. Do much shit to do, without a story or think about 2k11, no story but so much fun basketball shit to do and it was actually challenging with smart AI
This game made me quit buying 2k games for good, so in a way one could say it did me a favor. The thing is that I felt very similar trying out 2k22 recently (due to PS4 having it as a "free" game on PSN Extra). I was still unable to compete and was offered to buy VC at every turn. The low amount of VC earned from actually playing games was pretty ridiculous. This further cements that 2k is still greedy, and the games are very much pay to play unless you are a grinder.
Unpopular opinion: I actually kinda liked 2K18. It wasn’t perfect, tattoos and cosmetics weren’t that important to me (they had free downloadable custom shirts the community made so I was set lol), the missed layups and sliding out-of-bounds to save the ball were frustrating, and I liked the Neighborhood.
Except every single time u went home to ur apartment some random Asian bitch was promoting Reese puffs for literally no reason at all and it was unskipable
Same for me. Sorry for this very late comment, I'll go further with saying that imo the 2k18s "Park" was the one I enjoyed the most, the archetypes system was in fact very well balanced and dribble cheese spamming wasn't efficient as it is now. Also despite the grind vor the vc, I prefered this progression system as once I got my 99 i wasn't tied to a very shitty note system. Got to admit I didn't buyed 2k every year since this one.
@@colewrld901 bro that’s literally what 2k21 my player is everyone is complaining about everyone player is op and dunk animations happened so much. Trust me you don’t want that. You want limitations on some builds
I remember I tried to give 2k another chance and played 19. I love my franchise mode. Imagine my surprise when teams refuse to sign their star players back, contracts was completely out of hand. Like u had like 80 ovrs wanting like 90+ ovr money. Big name guys stayed free agents because teams couldn't afford them and etc...
Agreed, and I don't think it ever will be at a truly great level again. Graphics are incredible, but the whole video game industry has shifted to a money-at-all-costs perspective that puts the gamer last with every decision the companies make.
@@Nelson_Swamp gameplay is all that matters, all that other at least to me is irrelevant. People are always gonna complain about something, the only thing 2k can do is fix they're own mistakes and let's not forget Take2 are the ones pulling the strings 2k just makes the game.
I’d argue that 2K hasn’t cleaned up its act after 18. Hell, I’d say they’ve gotten worse. The trailer for 20 was focused on gambling games and 21 started the rush for game companies to make their base games $70.
5:12 NOT ALL SPORTS GAMES MAN! I'm telling you, MLB The Show is actually great with this, you can get a great squad for absolutely free, with the in game currency being so easy to come by.
MLB the Show is great. My only complaint is the retarded roster management AI when you just want to sim seasons, but I mean, that's nothing compared to other games.
Nah it started with 2k17 the game that made our players into role players, instead of superstars. 2k17 had such a cringe story and was the year most people gave up on mycareer 🤦
@@colewrld901 they just need to drop this b-movie level storytelling they’ve had for years now. Look at fifa with the journey trilogy when you play as Alex hunter, it was actually really well done, but 2k refuse to put any effort whatsoever into their games
@@cheeto6057 nah they need to drop it period and let us be ourselves. Even with that FIFA trilogy, we were playing as an already created character. I want to be myself in a game, not someone 2k or EA made for me. They need to get rid of the storylines and go back to gameplay and depth in sports video games already.
@@colewrld901 I can definitely agree with that, I was just pointing out how well ea did it with fifa compared to how awful 2k handled it, which says a lot of EA is making your shit look like garbage
This was the beginning of the end of me liking sports games, now I’m boycotting them until some real innovation is put into the genre. They’re all the same game every year, just the micro-transactions get more inexcusable
I think I'm one of the only people who loved 2K18. It sucked for Park but I had one of the most fun playing Play Now Online in '18. The gameplay and aesthetic just felt right to me. Idk how to explain but it just felt satisfying to me. Runners, euros, gathers, and floaters were so smooth and fun to execute in 18, before they got nerfed in 19 and 20.
@@rinnerebirthx1369 There is video of a literal NBA player raging about how badly the game sucks compared to 16 and 17. I'm gonna wager he plays more "real basketball" than you do.
Thanks for all the content. I think this niche of sports game critique from an informed perspective in video essay format is a largely untapped market. Keep grinding away.
I completely agree 2k is one of the best games and they listen to there fans for example they listened to agent 00s words on 2k it’s self us 2k fans have an amazing game yet most are still complaining and I play a little madden and to be honest I can understand your frustration
I agree. The bad thing about it is that I had been playing 2k for years by then and that was the year I decided to take my talents online with My Team. I still have PTSD
Partly due to your coverage of older games I went back and bought 2k17 (for $5 shipped) and played thru the single player campaign. As bad as the game may have been at launch or during the year or online, all I played was the single player MyCareer offline and enjoyed the #orangejuice storyline. After losing to Ben Simmons for RotY (despite having better numbers) and winning the Finals and Finals MVP, I bought 2k18 for $3 shipped and thought I'd go thru that single player offline campaign too. I was immediately greeted with NO cutscenes, NO storyline, just a calendar of events and a wonder why the announcers are calling me DJ. I believe since the servers were shut down they don't even have the single player cutscenes and story, which is absolute trash. At least with NBA 2K17 I got to enjoy the story and duo of myself and Justice Young.
For me it’s 2k12 at least from a gameplay standpoint, it was such a huge letdown for me especially after coming after 2k11 which IMO is the best 2k of all time. The graphics, presentation, and game modes such as the Legends showcase were nice but it felt like a chore just playing them. Dealing with issues like this Speed was a joke th-cam.com/video/jZn17qI8g6o/w-d-xo.html Terrible defense by your CPU teammates while playing MyCareer th-cam.com/video/Ns13t03BZZg/w-d-xo.html There were several other issues as well but these we’re 2 issues that made the game unplayable at times and one of these problems still exist today. And some of these problems still exists today in 2k
As a mainly a myleague player, the gameplay had some quirks, but it's very playable with sliders adjustments. There have been much much much worse basketball games and sports games. Madden 19 had some of the worst gameplay of any sports game of all time.
Wow. Never thought about it like this. I’m like an 82 overall shooting guard, and everyone walks away from me in neighborhood. Never had a good neighborhood experience. I will never spend money on a video game AFTER I’ve already paid for the game. Maybe it’s because I grew up on N64, but I don’t know why anyone would ever spend money online for video game things
Ahh. This is the only 2K I ever played until the current one. I bought it because I had heard friends talk about it. It honestly turned me off to the series, the only thing I even remotely enjoyed a tiny bit was Blacktop. But the game in general was terrible
I kind of agree with the timeline. But Madden 19 ended up being in my opinion the worst Madden ever. It was the first time I got a Madden game and opened the main menu and said “wait where’s the rest of the game?”
I bought every NBA 2K game from 12-18. 16 was the last 2K game I enjoyed. 17 looks great in retrospect given where the series has gone since, but I remember finding it frustrating at the time. 18 was so bad I played it for a week and then went back to 17 until they shut the servers off, literally threw the 2K18 disk away while moving to a new apartment, bought NBA Live 19 in protest, and then only bought 2K20, like 9 months after launch when it was on sale on the PSN store for $20. And given that 2K21 looks like 2K20.5, and I'm skipping this console generation, I'll probably never buy a 2K game again.
when the shooting mechanics are too confusing for you because you've only actually played 2K8 with simple "press X to shoot" controls but you're a myleague nerd so you couldn't care less about gameplay
Bought 2k21 a few days ago on the Black Friday digital Xbox sale... haven't bought one since 2k12. The depth of MyLeague is absolutely bonkers, very impressed and happy with my purchase so far. Not sure if I'll give the MyCareer a chance though
NBA 2K18 is the one that started the total downfall for the legendary NBA 2K Series. 2K18, 2K21, and 2K24 are the top 3 WORST NBA 2K GAMES OF ALL TIME.
2k18 was bad, but 2k19 was a game that you genuinely, with no exaggeration, could not go more than 15 seconds without encountering a bug. pretty much unplayable, def worse than 18
only good thing about this game is the all time teams and the music. every other aspect is trash. you also left out the park lag, unskippable cutscenes and ads.
Another seldom-mentioned thing 2K18 did was how it removed the rookie difficulty in my career, making the game a lot harder for people who aren't great at it but just want to create the player and be in the NBA. I have yet to see anyone directly ask visual concepts why they did this, but I think we all know the answer
Love these videos. Hate that game. Detest microtransactions. It's sad that the actual sport within the game has become the lure of buying/buffing your ingame avatar. I buy a basketball game to play basketball - a hockey game to play hockey, and a football game to play football. Now, more emphasis is placed on gimmicks and bright shiny objects over core gameplay and depth. The only way this will ever change is if an indie developer has the balls and determination to put out an unbranded sports game with a lot of depth, but lacking in licenses - THEN, sticking it out until enough hardcore sports gamers make the jump and support it. Pipe dream at best.
You're so right that the game is disconnected from the sport now. For 2k23 Visual Concepts made NBA League Pass (normally $200) part of their 'Championship' pre-order package for $150 ... and the majority of players I saw commenting online called it a trash bonus because they wouldn't actually use it. This is the most insane bonus for any game I've ever seen; it shouldn't even be possible for an established game with no competition. And it was met with a collective, 'eh'. The people who play this game - particularly the ones who will pay $150 for a pre-order copy with bonus VC, etc. - truly don't even watch actual basketball games. Or care to.
This was my first year playing online, couldn't believe the amount of micro-transactions they implemented. The gameplay was just terrible and the cutscenes made the game unplayable
This was the worst 2k I ever got to experience. In like 2 years, nostalgia is gonna come back and for some reason they gonna call it one of the best 2k’s of all time. Just like they did with 17
The downfall of NBA 2k also came at a really bad time, I think a lot of people left it to play fortnite which was absolutely blowing up at the time. I for one absolutely became fed up with this franchise after 2k18 and didn’t buy another 2k game until 2k21 came out.
it's crazy cuz i wasn't too crazy on 2k growing up, i only owned 2k13 on ps3 previously. my friends were crazy about 2k and when 2k17 dropped i finally felt the FOMO. i decided to buy 2k18 cuz if 2k17 was fire, 2k18 would be even better, right..? man... what a horrible time to join the 2k community LMFAOOO
I still get Vietnam flashbacks when I see this game 🤦🏾♂️
Bro I get ptsd when I see b fresh
It's not even that bad the fluidity between animations is much better than 2k20
I get ptsd from this game as a whole
Thank you for playing so we didn’t need to 😢
@@petrified0035and the cutscenes were unskippeble
2K really proved the old adage, “You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.”
You can honestly say that about anything in general
Fax they sold their soul
There better be a new owner of nba 2k
2k19 was amazing though..... they just fucked it all up again with 20 and now 21 is ass. I haven't bought any new sports games since 2018. Well I've bought one. NHL 20. That was it.
@Harry Engel yes
Can we get a moment of silence for all the people who grinded to 99 on 18
😭😭😭😭😭
It was so fucking easy
@@VonJaye lol no it wasn’t bro I had 12,000 points in the rec center and only got to leve 93
@@hoophighlights2679 I played my career the entire start that’s what they told y’all to do to level up But I was a 6’8 SGslasher
definitely had fun on 2k18
Oh god, you just reminded me of the hell beast that was B-Fresh.
That beast is literal nightmare fuel lol
Let’s not talk about it. Please for the love of god leave that shit in the past.
@@evanazbell That shit gives me PTSD lol
Was she homeless and lived with him or were they dating?
The worst part was that you couldn't skip her cutscenes
This game is still better than anything ea has put out on current gen lmao
Nah Live 19 Had some really quality elements to it
That why mygm is best
I have to agree. At least 2K devs fucking try. Lol. EA Sports is just full of hollow employees who have no life left in them to care about what fans say.
@@kanyeeast1340 when it comes to innovation I agree, but the gameplay was so bad that it made it unplayable
that doesn't make it good. can you name one character in any madden storyline that is more annoying than lil tasty?
2k18- Missed layups all the time
2k21 at launch- "Hold my Gatorade"
2k22 hold my everything
@@HampETX903 holds your nads.
@@HampETX9032K24: Hold my 500x microtransactions.
1:57 come on bro lol
the wagon
"Shorty got the FATTI"
@@_whoaskedtho_And Shorty be catching mood *S* *W* *I* *N* *G* *S*
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gawdd dayummm
I remember playing the hell out of this game and grinding to like 80OVR, only to have my player be deleted for no reason. Literally gave up on this game after that
Bro that happened to me. I was like WTF 🤬
2K said “nah you ain’t drop a penny to be 80 OVR. Fuck you, get deleted.”
Ong I remember I got tht empty lobby glitch
My player in 2k18 is a headache i mean cutscenes are cringy and you can’t skip it and you have that asian girl b fresh i swear i wanted to punch her face so bad. And i have a problem going back to my apartment game keep crashing when im about to enter the elevator. Waste of money and the worst game ever.
My player was still there, but all my badge progress was reset to -99999 or whatever. I kid you not. I tried to get 2K Support to fix it because it was something I know for a fact that could be fixed. IT was an issue impacting others in the community and Agent (youtuber) did it live on stream. They refused to fix my character and told me to buy more VC.
I immediately deleted that trash off my system and haven't looked back.
The fact that 2k sent players a survey asking why people stop playing 2k18 shows how careless they are.
What?? That shows that they want your feedback. That’s shows exactly what the people want them to work on
they literally fixed so many issues in 2k19, rhey just had to go and fuck it all up with 2k20.
@@immaculatesquid 2k19 was daddy
@@swaggyp5518 facts
I usually get me a 5 piece from a KFC and blow out the toilet later for a good price. Get some biscuits put some Tabasco on it and I'm gonna rip ass like no other. God damn love me some KFC worst decision is eating there and not blowing out their toilet bc if drive home im speeding like a mf 5 min later bc I'm gonna explode. Run right through the garage door kick down the door and tear up my bathroom God damn no fun.
Oddly enough, this was the first NBA 2K game I had, and I thought it was the bomb. I played little MyPlayer because it was obviously pay to win, but played so much MyLeague and customized just about every team. I remember making a Harlem Globetrotters roster that got 200 downloads and I was so happy. This shows how much better 2K is than EA
until you think about how long online lasts. My madden 16 stil works online
same here, my dad had 2k11-14 on my PS3 but never got around to playing it since I was into racing, but man only now do I realize how bad 2K18 was but I honestly had a happy experience with it
EA is still good I have nba 2k22 and fifa 22
@@xavierdanielson482 Bro, how?
@@ifheavenwashuman idk but like a couple months ago Madden 16 still worked and 100% 18 too
I think I can safely say everyone agrees that this is the worst 2K of all time
@@steve6646 no 2K16 is widely regarded as the best 2K of all time by the 2K community
@@steve6646 2k16 is one of the best wdym
Conor u mean 2k17 not in 2016 tho
@@petrified0035 no it’s not, it’s good but 2k11 is the best easily. It’s easy to see you didn’t play it
@@yousoldthebag I’m ok with that opinion, it could be vice versa. It can also go as 2K11 is the best game on ps3 generation and 2K16 is the best game on last gen
IDC what anyone says: I had WAY more fun playing Live 18 than 2K18
I still play live 18
Real talk
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Bruh I tell folks that 2k games where better but the last couple lives was more full. I would player 2k for franchise. Live for myplayer
16i live is better miss that roster that year
I still have nightmares about the wide open missed layups
What really threw me off with 2k18 was the amount of product placement. I know 2k always had that but 2k18 was way over the top. Like I remember when u first go to the barbershop shop there’s a cutscene where the barbers talk about the jbl head phones. I was like “wtf?!?”
Even simple products in NBA 2K18 like haircuts even costed about $3.000.
I had a blast with 2k18 GM Mode was the best it was at this point. If you drafted the legend Jackson Baldwin you had a good time in GM Mode at least.
Still playing through my gm mode with Jackson Baldwin in his second season.. averaged a triple double on my pistons his rookie year lol in Jackson's second year I trades for Freddie staples too lol
0:23 "What it's like having a step-mom in 2020" MUST WATCH lmao
Well thats a really funny scene actually.😅
The only good thing in this game was ATM, but even he was underused smh
Nah shammy wells the sniper from the 3, he literally was a cheat code 😂
I hate all the 2k storylines. I miss realistic career modes like 2k10 and 2k11
@@petrified0035 fr everytime chris smoove passed him he hit the three 9.9/10
@@colewrld901 to me, without those storylines mycareer would be very bland and boring
@@shino1300 yeah because 2k has 0 depth in mycareer. There's nothing to do. That's why people feel like the storylines are needed. If 2k would actually take out the storylines and cutscenes, while adding lots of goals and depth to mycareer then it would be fun. Think about madden superstar mode in madden 08. Do much shit to do, without a story or think about 2k11, no story but so much fun basketball shit to do and it was actually challenging with smart AI
You’re bold to ever think 2K was ever as hated as Madden.
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this game was a tragedy
I thought it was a fucking comedy.
Google this see many people play it now
This game made me quit buying 2k games for good, so in a way one could say it did me a favor. The thing is that I felt very similar trying out 2k22 recently (due to PS4 having it as a "free" game on PSN Extra). I was still unable to compete and was offered to buy VC at every turn. The low amount of VC earned from actually playing games was pretty ridiculous. This further cements that 2k is still greedy, and the games are very much pay to play unless you are a grinder.
This the year everybody went back to 2k17 😂
Its a trend 21 users still playing 20
That’s what we did with every 2k tho
0:19 bruh Dr.disrespect showing up as he is saying predator is crazy 💀
That zoom in 1:57 💀
Simply fun gameplay zoom indeed.😂
The sad thing is this game is still 1000x better than Madden
Unpopular opinion: I actually kinda liked 2K18. It wasn’t perfect, tattoos and cosmetics weren’t that important to me (they had free downloadable custom shirts the community made so I was set lol), the missed layups and sliding out-of-bounds to save the ball were frustrating, and I liked the Neighborhood.
Same
19 & 20 were the nail in the coffin
Except every single time u went home to ur apartment some random Asian bitch was promoting Reese puffs for literally no reason at all and it was unskipable
Same for me. Sorry for this very late comment, I'll go further with saying that imo the 2k18s "Park" was the one I enjoyed the most, the archetypes system was in fact very well balanced and dribble cheese spamming wasn't efficient as it is now. Also despite the grind vor the vc, I prefered this progression system as once I got my 99 i wasn't tied to a very shitty note system. Got to admit I didn't buyed 2k every year since this one.
I played it on 360
When are you releasing the "fall of madden" viddeo? It has been over a week. I've been waiting for this gem
2k17 was the true fall of 2k. 2k11-2k16 was so good until 2k17 happened
Facts. 2k17 nerfed our players so bad
Ehhhh
You have 13 which is pretty overrated and 15 which was a letdown compared to 14 overall
@@thetruth619ful woah now. 15 was a top 2 2k. That was the be any player u want era 😭 I miss it so much
@@colewrld901 bro that’s literally what 2k21 my player is everyone is complaining about everyone player is op and dunk animations happened so much. Trust me you don’t want that. You want limitations on some builds
@@steve6646 L
I remember I tried to give 2k another chance and played 19. I love my franchise mode. Imagine my surprise when teams refuse to sign their star players back, contracts was completely out of hand. Like u had like 80 ovrs wanting like 90+ ovr money. Big name guys stayed free agents because teams couldn't afford them and etc...
Wasn’t the best gen for sports games and next gen isn’t off to a great start either.
Agreed, and I don't think it ever will be at a truly great level again. Graphics are incredible, but the whole video game industry has shifted to a money-at-all-costs perspective that puts the gamer last with every decision the companies make.
@@Nelson_Swamp gameplay is all that matters, all that other at least to me is irrelevant. People are always gonna complain about something, the only thing 2k can do is fix they're own mistakes and let's not forget Take2 are the ones pulling the strings 2k just makes the game.
when my little brother played my career in nba 2k18 we had to grind for months to just get to 80 ovr. it was stressful.
I’d argue that 2K hasn’t cleaned up its act after 18. Hell, I’d say they’ve gotten worse. The trailer for 20 was focused on gambling games and 21 started the rush for game companies to make their base games $70.
Facts 2K16 was last good 2k game
5:12 NOT ALL SPORTS GAMES MAN!
I'm telling you, MLB The Show is actually great with this, you can get a great squad for absolutely free, with the in game currency being so easy to come by.
MLB the Show is great. My only complaint is the retarded roster management AI when you just want to sim seasons, but I mean, that's nothing compared to other games.
Let's be real though. The worst NBA 2K is still better than the best Madden.
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No
The MyCareer mode is just a generic career mode since the servers shutdown.
2k18 was the start of the downfall of nba 2k. What a terrible my career, it had the worst career mode ever!
Nah it started with 2k17 the game that made our players into role players, instead of superstars. 2k17 had such a cringe story and was the year most people gave up on mycareer 🤦
@@colewrld901 they just need to drop this b-movie level storytelling they’ve had for years now. Look at fifa with the journey trilogy when you play as Alex hunter, it was actually really well done, but 2k refuse to put any effort whatsoever into their games
@@cheeto6057 nah they need to drop it period and let us be ourselves. Even with that FIFA trilogy, we were playing as an already created character. I want to be myself in a game, not someone 2k or EA made for me. They need to get rid of the storylines and go back to gameplay and depth in sports video games already.
@@colewrld901 I can definitely agree with that, I was just pointing out how well ea did it with fifa compared to how awful 2k handled it, which says a lot of EA is making your shit look like garbage
@@cheeto6057 yeah I agree
This was the beginning of the end of me liking sports games, now I’m boycotting them until some real innovation is put into the genre. They’re all the same game every year, just the micro-transactions get more inexcusable
I haven't really enjoyed 2k since 17, I didn't mind 20 or 21, they were chill. But 2k22 is currently pissing me off a lot.
Even tho 21 was hate by so many people. It didn't feel stale to me. 22 is so stale. Paint defense is not existent. The rep system is bs.
The fact that there were, and still are, people who will defend 2k’s money hungry actions really makes me worried for humanity.
NBA 2K18: I started the hate for sports games!
NHL 15: How cute :3
Or FIFA 15
I play the wii version of NBA 2K11 :3
@Donair Is Tasty No its a big W despite the graphics for NBA 2K11 wii are comparable to NBA 2K5 for the xbox and PS2
Any madden after 2012, madden 25 was actually pretty solid
I think I'm one of the only people who loved 2K18. It sucked for Park but I had one of the most fun playing Play Now Online in '18. The gameplay and aesthetic just felt right to me. Idk how to explain but it just felt satisfying to me. Runners, euros, gathers, and floaters were so smooth and fun to execute in 18, before they got nerfed in 19 and 20.
People who don’t play real basketball thinks 2k18 sucks
Lol i would dominate with the cavs
@@rinnerebirthx1369 ong
They actually got better in 19, gathers, spin dunks, euro dunks gotten better in 19 not worse.. You obviously didn't play much of either one.
@@rinnerebirthx1369 There is video of a literal NBA player raging about how badly the game sucks compared to 16 and 17. I'm gonna wager he plays more "real basketball" than you do.
Thanks for all the content. I think this niche of sports game critique from an informed perspective in video essay format is a largely untapped market. Keep grinding away.
2K17 has always been one of my favorites. By far the most hours I’ve logged on any 2K game
Preach. I was legit upset the day the servers went down. I was in like my 4th season of mycareer
Bro I remember people hating this game and calling it one of the worst 2ks. What changed?
Still more discuss than 2k11
thank you bro, now all of sudden 2k17 was trash? i remember this being one of the best 2k’s
I play madden, and really, 2k is way better. I feel like 2k fans don’t get how good they actually have it.
Most spoiled fan base ever
I completely agree 2k is one of the best games and they listen to there fans for example they listened to agent 00s words on 2k it’s self us 2k fans have an amazing game yet most are still complaining and I play a little madden and to be honest I can understand your frustration
Facts, 2k games are so good and so many levels above madden and other sports games I don’t understand how people complain
I play 2k league mode for 6 months irl before attempting my career to combat this. Usually have around 50-60k VC by then
I agree. The bad thing about it is that I had been playing 2k for years by then and that was the year I decided to take my talents online with My Team. I still have PTSD
An audible definitely would’ve been nice to have in that submarine
Partly due to your coverage of older games I went back and bought 2k17 (for $5 shipped) and played thru the single player campaign. As bad as the game may have been at launch or during the year or online, all I played was the single player MyCareer offline and enjoyed the #orangejuice storyline. After losing to Ben Simmons for RotY (despite having better numbers) and winning the Finals and Finals MVP, I bought 2k18 for $3 shipped and thought I'd go thru that single player offline campaign too. I was immediately greeted with NO cutscenes, NO storyline, just a calendar of events and a wonder why the announcers are calling me DJ. I believe since the servers were shut down they don't even have the single player cutscenes and story, which is absolute trash. At least with NBA 2K17 I got to enjoy the story and duo of myself and Justice Young.
This isn’t just the worst 2k games it’s one of the worst games of all time
For me it’s 2k12 at least from a gameplay standpoint, it was such a huge letdown for me especially after coming after 2k11 which IMO is the best 2k of all time. The graphics, presentation, and game modes such as the Legends showcase were nice but it felt like a chore just playing them. Dealing with issues like this
Speed was a joke th-cam.com/video/jZn17qI8g6o/w-d-xo.html
Terrible defense by your CPU teammates while playing MyCareer
th-cam.com/video/Ns13t03BZZg/w-d-xo.html
There were several other issues as well but these we’re 2 issues that made the game unplayable at times and one of these problems still exist today. And some of these problems still exists today in 2k
2K12 where the cpu pump faked for 16 seconds before shooting
Facts. 11 was the last time i didn't hate playing a 2k game.
@@yettiluch1 the fact that 2K14 looks way better than 2K22 tells you everything you need know about this shit franchise.
2k13 weren't too bad either but 2k11 definitely holds the crown
this man saying “2k17 wasn’t that good of a game” triggered me. the launch was sus sure but after?😭
This game was also broken from a gameplay point. The blow by animation ruined the gameplay for me
You a sick dude for 1:57 my boy 🤣🤣🤣
Missed the opportunity to play the Chris Smoove diss.
1:57 Dead 😂
As a mainly a myleague player, the gameplay had some quirks, but it's very playable with sliders adjustments. There have been much much much worse basketball games and sports games. Madden 19 had some of the worst gameplay of any sports game of all time.
This is a very fair take on NBA 2k. I wish, as a nascar fan, we had a game of equal quality. I like the heat series but that is a budget mess.
we gonna have a great game next year
Wow. Never thought about it like this. I’m like an 82 overall shooting guard, and everyone walks away from me in neighborhood. Never had a good neighborhood experience. I will never spend money on a video game AFTER I’ve already paid for the game. Maybe it’s because I grew up on N64, but I don’t know why anyone would ever spend money online for video game things
Ahh. This is the only 2K I ever played until the current one. I bought it because I had heard friends talk about it. It honestly turned me off to the series, the only thing I even remotely enjoyed a tiny bit was Blacktop. But the game in general was terrible
Kyrie out here destroying another franchise
this is fax but to be 99 u actually had to grind, you can't just pay for 99. So u got that part wrong but its okay.
I kind of agree with the timeline. But Madden 19 ended up being in my opinion the worst Madden ever. It was the first time I got a Madden game and opened the main menu and said “wait where’s the rest of the game?”
I bought every NBA 2K game from 12-18. 16 was the last 2K game I enjoyed. 17 looks great in retrospect given where the series has gone since, but I remember finding it frustrating at the time. 18 was so bad I played it for a week and then went back to 17 until they shut the servers off, literally threw the 2K18 disk away while moving to a new apartment, bought NBA Live 19 in protest, and then only bought 2K20, like 9 months after launch when it was on sale on the PSN store for $20. And given that 2K21 looks like 2K20.5, and I'm skipping this console generation, I'll probably never buy a 2K game again.
when the shooting mechanics are too confusing for you because you've only actually played 2K8 with simple "press X to shoot" controls but you're a myleague nerd so you couldn't care less about gameplay
“The most important element to a sports game is gameplay”
Seems like someone who doesn’t care about gameplay.
@@mr.sideous2340 no shit
Bought 2k21 a few days ago on the Black Friday digital Xbox sale... haven't bought one since 2k12. The depth of MyLeague is absolutely bonkers, very impressed and happy with my purchase so far. Not sure if I'll give the MyCareer a chance though
well when you compare it to 2k12 i mean damn
2k Saying Lebron James is extremely Loyal is a bit of a stretch @ 8:58 😂🤣
The custom T's was fire tho.
The only good thing about the game
The Madden 13 of NBA 2K.
2k is gonna make our video game, definitely.
I thought you shut down 😂
@@KeshawnPro2016 nope, Dwanye Johnson Bought It
Narwhal Live V2 oh yeah, i forgot about that
NBA 2K18 is the one that started the total downfall for the legendary NBA 2K Series. 2K18, 2K21, and 2K24 are the top 3 WORST NBA 2K GAMES OF ALL TIME.
2k18 may not be a great game but it’ll always hold a special place in my heart because it was my first nba game
2k18 was bad, but 2k19 was a game that you genuinely, with no exaggeration, could not go more than 15 seconds without encountering a bug. pretty much unplayable, def worse than 18
2k19 stats online reset everywhere bug
False
@@joshdaboss2365 just saying false doesnt prove anything lmao
only good thing about this game is the all time teams and the music. every other aspect is trash. you also left out the park lag, unskippable cutscenes and ads.
I bet everyone can agree that this game killed the franchise
2k18 is better than any madden this gen
I'm an offline player, and i had fun with MyLeague in 2k18.
People who say that the game sucked mainly played MyCareer, Park and MyTeam.
THANK YOU
This definitely not the worst one
What I thought until I realized I’d never buy it again
@@user-te4bf6ye7r yeah I woukdby buy it but it wssnt that bad to
Another seldom-mentioned thing 2K18 did was how it removed the rookie difficulty in my career, making the game a lot harder for people who aren't great at it but just want to create the player and be in the NBA. I have yet to see anyone directly ask visual concepts why they did this, but I think we all know the answer
I ain’t gone lie I had fun on 18 🤷🏽♂️
Walking the to the otherside of the park and your game freezes 😐
Whats up guys WLR droppin soon
That’s been said many times before 😭
2k18 was better than 2k17 at least
Two words as to why people hated NBA 2k18 "B Fresh"
Thank god 2K is willing to listen to the fans and deliver a better game the next year but still I hate micro transactions
I get this video in my recommended and click on it. I'm watching it and at 1:35 I see my tweet from a few months ago. I was not expecting that 😂
NBA 2K13 was my favorite 2k by far in terms of how much fun I had when I would play it.
Love NBA 2k13's gameplay. Definitely my favorite in the series.
Still got it
The fact that before 18 20-30 dollars was enough to upgrade your my player to the cap. Now you gotta pay atleast 80 bucks
Love these videos. Hate that game. Detest microtransactions. It's sad that the actual sport within the game has become the lure of buying/buffing your ingame avatar. I buy a basketball game to play basketball - a hockey game to play hockey, and a football game to play football. Now, more emphasis is placed on gimmicks and bright shiny objects over core gameplay and depth. The only way this will ever change is if an indie developer has the balls and determination to put out an unbranded sports game with a lot of depth, but lacking in licenses - THEN, sticking it out until enough hardcore sports gamers make the jump and support it.
Pipe dream at best.
You're so right that the game is disconnected from the sport now.
For 2k23 Visual Concepts made NBA League Pass (normally $200) part of their 'Championship' pre-order package for $150 ... and the majority of players I saw commenting online called it a trash bonus because they wouldn't actually use it.
This is the most insane bonus for any game I've ever seen; it shouldn't even be possible for an established game with no competition. And it was met with a collective, 'eh'. The people who play this game - particularly the ones who will pay $150 for a pre-order copy with bonus VC, etc. - truly don't even watch actual basketball games. Or care to.
This was my first year playing online, couldn't believe the amount of micro-transactions they implemented.
The gameplay was just terrible and the cutscenes made the game unplayable
You could skip them if you want
@@lmSean you literally couldn't. That was what the changed in 2K19, because you couldn't skip cutscene
@@lmSean you could not skip the 2k18 cut scenes at all.
Still better then all EA Sports games that generation
fax
Cap
2k18 on ps3 and 360 were such a money grab
I feel bad for owning this game now
Watch this comment get buried
Shut up
7 more day to go nba 2k19 feel bad
This was the worst 2k I ever got to experience. In like 2 years, nostalgia is gonna come back and for some reason they gonna call it one of the best 2k’s of all time. Just like they did with 17
17 was average. 18 was ass. 19 was great. 20 was ass. 21 is ass.
that being said, I had so much fun in 18' Pro Am.
At least 2K19 was better than 17 and 18
Offline only warning
When I saw the public backlash to 2K18, I thought to myself "Well... guess I'm gonna play 2K16 for another year".
2k17 was the worst.
Nah 10 was
No wait that was 13
No 18 is still the worst lol
2K17 had the best MyCareer, that's it. Loading screen PG13, killed that credit though.
I just got this game last night I'm about to try it out I'll give it a chance but I probably won't play it for that long 👻🤘.
Kinda sad how NBA 2K went from great to bad in a span of 2 years.
This is probably my opinion this is probably worse than madden but that’s just my opinion
I still remember after 17 how much people were hyping up 18 with the new "neighborhood"
The downfall of NBA 2k also came at a really bad time, I think a lot of people left it to play fortnite which was absolutely blowing up at the time. I for one absolutely became fed up with this franchise after 2k18 and didn’t buy another 2k game until 2k21 came out.
it's crazy cuz i wasn't too crazy on 2k growing up, i only owned 2k13 on ps3 previously. my friends were crazy about 2k and when 2k17 dropped i finally felt the FOMO. i decided to buy 2k18 cuz if 2k17 was fire, 2k18 would be even better, right..?
man... what a horrible time to join the 2k community LMFAOOO