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- You may be surprised at how much I've spent! My repairs start at 1:25. Previous owner’s repairs start at 3:35. With the amount this car has depreciated, its hard to look past the amount of car you're getting for the money. Unfortunately, the V10 can be a scary thought when it comes to maintenance and repairs. I get dozens of questions about how much I've had to spend so far and what issues I've ran across. On top of exhaust videos, I will now be taking this channel a step further and will explain the entire ownership as best as I can. Feel free to ask any questions!
The M5 is like marrying a beautiful woman whose last 2 husbands died mysterious deaths. Could be nothing....could be the worst decision you ever make. Exciting though.
Joshua Thiel LMAO! So true, but like he said in the video...a lot of issues could be too little use(aka a chick who wasn't getting enough from her ex!)
Yes haha such a great way to put it!
You should be French guys, you're just a bunch of naught naughty boys XD
Good one!
I have had 2 bmw in my life and this applies also to normal ones as well! Haha. Other car makers just dont offer that same constant anxiety when you're driving and looking for weird noises or smells!
genuine lol ty
Video starts at 3:35. You're welcome
@Bimmer M3 LOL
You the MVP!!🏆
Stated in the title smart ass
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thank u
Personally I like the negetivity. It helps to keep the hype and prices down so one day, I can afford it.
That’s a good point, the depreciation hit the E60 got is crazy.
+Club Bmw Amg Who cares about 0-60? How many of those cars can do over 200 mph bone stock except a limiter removal? Other than some supercars, I can't think of many other cars from before 2010 that will do those kinds of speeds without modifications. Speed is hardly the reason for its depreciation.
The reason it is cheap is because some of early 06/07 models had some issues and everyone now thinks they will all spontaneously combust as soon as you hit the ignition.
LOL "it's useless". What kind of moronic statement is that?
lmao, only reason I can afford a mercedes, I can fix them and others are scared too which makes them affordable.
Random Person I like how you think.
People want costs of Vw polo but specs like Aventador 😂
TheMINELL True 🤣
most accurate shit said
I love this thing and i have seriously thought about buying one with cash and just expecting it to break and junking it when it does.
Honestly, if you get a good one, it could sort of be like that
Uh yeah lmao
At a 110k miles, you should replace your rod bearings like now, along with vanos oil feed lines, since pans open. Love my M5, i do all the labor myself.
Rod bearings are definitely going to be done soon, I wish I was knowledgeable to do all that stuff myself! That saves you a lot of money.
@Jordan Yap he means the carter or oil pan.
What part of the world are you in, sir ?
I drove Honda Accord's for 13 years. I wanted a car with more power. I almost bought another Honda, but the cost for a fully loaded Honda is almost equivalent to the cost of a BMW. You also get more power in a BMW. SO I took the plunge and bought a 2008 E60. This car is a DREAM! I don't want to drive anything else! And in regards to maintenance and repairs, you have to do that for any car you own. Nothing last forever!! I definitely agree that you have to pay to play when it comes to a high performance car. So for those of you who have so much negative shit to say about BMW are not risk takers and don't enjoy life! You live in a BOX! Come on people you only live once! As my dad always says, "Don't knock it till you try it!"
Too bad all of these comments are a year old. Don't know if this comment will be answered either. But I'm also thinking of purchasing an E60 M5. Probably one of the newest models that still has the V10 engine in it. Can you tell me if you've done any repairs to the car? And generally how reliable is it? Thinking about using it as a daily driver, would probably use it about four to five times a week.
LOL. Sure. Say that again when you are 90 years of age and are sitting in your shit all day long because you can't afford care, couldn't afford the $800k bond in aged care. But sure, you enjoy your money pit in the meantime I'm sure it's fun....
Bo Dez you have a good point but bear in mind exotics aren’t for people on a budget. You go in expecting these expenses, I too went from a 12 Honda Accord to an V10 M5 and yes did spend a pretty good amount probably more than I should but in the end I had one hell of a car that still halls ass. 3 years later and the M5 still remains my favorite among my C63, CTS V, and coming soon the C8 Corvette. So yeah most of us that own it are pretty well off. Good things don’t come cheap
The cost of the known repairs as a piece of mind is what keeps me away from the V10 M5. With just the aftermarket parts in my Tundra, I could own a very nice E60 M5 plus modding it. Also, there isn't really a lot of places to enjoy the car to it's potential. Reason why I bough an off road Toy that has a 10.5k rpm that I can jump, drift, launch, race on the best tracks around. Seriously the most fun I've ever had sitting behind the steering wheel. This includes 911's, Corvettes, M3, built high rev'ing 10k rpm hondas and many high boost turbo cars. Having negative things to say about this car has NOTHING to do with not being a risk taker and not enjoying life. Besides, the maintenance costs of the M5 I'd rather put towards my international traveling as I'm only living once.
Very well said.
Nice video Alex .I've had my e60 m5 for over 3 years and have enjoyed every drive ( apart from the very frequent fuel stops! ).if anyone is thinking about buying one just go for it you won't regret it .
Agreed. But holy shit it drinks fuel fast. My gas symbol comes on at a quarter tank!
Hello Alex: It is my experience and I am 62 years old that when you buy quality that is what you get. Keep up on the preventive services and I think that you will keep in a great car. I have never bought a BMW but I would like to in the near future. Thanks for your video. Good luck in all you do. Bob
Thanks Bob I appreciate the kind words!
The E60 M5 has one the best engines ever made. S85 V10.
Best engine with worst rod bearings.
Yes I agree!!! The 6 speed manual is a nice touch. Third gear on that M5 rips hard lol
It makes a nice noise, and is reasonably powerful, but a 5.0 litre engine that thows so many expensive tantrums, is not only not good, it's not even acceptable.
@@philnorton9723 did you even watch the video??
Love this vid! So many people complain "oh that car is a timebomb of expensive repairs".
Got my 06 M5 in September, put about 5k on it since, regularly drive it (and may hoon it a bit). Needs DSC module repaired (doesn’t affect drivability at all), had to get new rear tires and oil changes are about $120. And gas, oh boy does it love burning premium! Love every second of being in the drivers seat.
I second the opinion on this video. I’ve had my car for four years now and put on 35000km. Other than standard maintenance I’ve spent “Zero” on repairs.
I've had my 09 M5 for almost 3 years and put around 13k miles on it. It now has just over 73k miles on it. The only things I have replaced are the accessory and AC belts along with tensioners, which I did myself for like $120. Also, my thermostat acts up in the winter. I bought all the parts needed for $100 and will probably do this myself as well. All things considered this is a very solid and reliable car if you keep up on routine maintenance.
Sorry guys I understand I may have talked a little too long here, please understand this was also an introduction to the new direction of the channel. My repairs start at 1:25. Previous owner’s repairs start at 3:35. Normally I only post exhaust videos (and still will) but will also be doing these about the M5 from now on. I will get better, I promise! Thanks for watching.Take care, Alex
Alex Gray I’ll take it. Thanks for Intel. You have an introduction to car video?
Just found your channel, always had a soft spot for the M5 V10 but the scare mongering always put me off hence me buying a Lexus ISF instead. I’ve just subscribed and I look forward to watching more of your content. Thanks for sharing your experience of such an amazing sounding car.
Subscribed 🙌🏽 What year would you recommend on the 6 speed manual ? And what’s the reliability on them?
Dont worry you have a great car just dont leave it without oil or watter othervise bmw engines are made to last forever :)
Damn.. 8 min video.. Get to the point.. Geez.. Put in your description the timeline where you actually discuss it so people can skip on the actual price you've spent...
Have an oil analysis done and watch for high levels of lead and/or copper. Rod bearing failure is fairly common and those are tell tell signs. I hope it serves you well. I’ll never own another bmw, personally, but I do still think they’re sexy.
I have over 3 years of ownership of my 2006 M5. The only issue so far was the throttle actuators. Otherwise just oil changes. It's been a blast to own and a beast of a car when you want it to be. 111,000 miles on the clock.
Kunu M5 mine has 216 k miles covered and I have no issues with it. Just regular maintenance, oil change....
Osman Hadzalic
It's great to hear the good stories about these cars. So many people are terrified of buying an e60 M5. Oh well, there loss! These cars will appreciate in value!
That’s great to hear! Throttle actuators seem to be fairly common. Glad to see you’ve had a positive experience as well! Take care.
Good to know i am bidding on 2007 model M5 right now.... fingers crossed, its a dream machine for me...
Kunu M5 vanos*
Hey, glad you’ve had a pleasant experience owning the car. This is really awesome to hear. One thing I think really worth noting is that you bought one, like you said, that had two of the common issues addressed right before you bought it. This is always good news for the next owner. Had you bought this before the SMG pump and the clutch went out, you would have had to have been the one to bite the bullet on those expensive repairs. Either way, it’s an amazing car, but Doug is absolutely right when he says, “buy one that has had the common issues addressed and it’ll be the best decision you ever made. Buy one that hasn’t, and it’ll break your heart” lol. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Will be seeing the rest of your ownership experience with the car
So the guy who owned it before fixed the problems. Your saying 7k , private mechanic 4k.
I have a 335d. Nothing but issues after 100k. I’m done. Spent 5k last year at a good mechanic, not the dealer. At the dealer I’d of spend around 10-12k in repairs. Now glow plugs, ignition and leaking issues. Fuck that. 110k ‘miles man. So pissed.
Done bro, I've owned audis, bmws, volkswagens, etc, I'm a diy guy, but these cars are worth it, repairs are very low when maintained.
I daily drive a 2010 m5, 170k miles 2nd owner and I’ve only had to replace the transmission and the clutch but this is my fault for being to hard on the car, I definitely have a heavy foot and it’s so fun to drive but the only down side of this car is the gas mileage but I knew it was bad going in to it.
I drive a 2008 M5 has 176000 kms put 20000 kms so far . No regrets wanted to take the chance on owning one. Has been great car . Look forward to more videos. Have to take away some of the fear factor about owning a awesome car like this. I would say all you guys and gals that want one go get it. Only live once.
Exactly! That was my outlook on it, there will never be a car like this made again so I took the chance and have enjoyed every second of it. Would hate to have never experienced it and look back and wondered what it would’ve been like to own.
My dad has one of these alongside X5M. He daily's the SUV and the car just sits. The SUV has had in my estimation about $14k in repairs. What doesn't make sense to me is why GM can make a NA car like Z06 that makes 500hp and that's reliable as hell, and BMW still can't. Some of the issues my dad's SUV encountered, the dealer techs couldn't figure out. People from corporate had to be called in. Makes no sense.
I agree, it’s too bad GM’s cars (besides Cadillac) don’t have the luxury to go with it like bmws. Other than the Z06 overheating issue, most of their cars are bulletproof. Obviously the v10 had its fair share of issues, but the F10 from what it seems has a lot less to worry about and is pretty tough. What kind of issues has your dad’s X5M had? I really like those and have considered one next.
92rednotch apples to oranges, this is a high revving v10. The E90x M3 has a high revving V8, I love corvettes but the two aren’t comparable.
If you having car problems I feel bad for you son I gotta 96 civic and that bitch still runs.... HIT ME!!!!!!
Dude I had an E60 M5, brand new in 2006, and put 120,000 miles on it over five years. The car was BULLETPROOF, and so much fun.
My secretary's husband is a Master mechanic at BMW. He talked me out of getting a M5 a couple of years ago. He told me they are... "good solid cars until 60-70k miles. After that GET RID OF IT."
They say that about most ///M cars, my car was 7 years old without a single issue
BMW's are not made to be driven for short trips, however they're not that bad aside from the common issues on the oil leaks coming from the gaskets. Owned a 2005 550 Manual, 2000 BMW 528i Manual and currently own a 1997 Z3 Manual which is now leaking oil and transmission fluid. Lol. Love the vehicles but I'm done for now. I will sell the Z3 this spring and call it good. Now I own a 2015 Mercedes Benz CLS 550, had it for 6 months and no issues so far. Fingers crossed.
Bought mine is September (95k km/59k miles). i put in approximately $3000 in repairs since but she is driving good now. Don't always believe that a full service history record means the car is issue free. The M5 of mine and the BMW s1000rr i bought had full bmw service history and "well maintained" however had their fair share of issues. i would recommend buying an ODB2 reader & learn some DIY for the M5 if you looking to purchase an M. reason being with how many sensors the vehicle has and the chain effect you could stop and identify an issue before it becomes really problematic and costly as multiple parts could need changing. last week i got a message on the idrive that i had severe tyre pressure loss. 1 Tyre went out. $600 to replace. Coming from an E36 m3 (236kw) the m5 is a monster in comparison an just pulls in M mode. I dont regret the purchase though at all
Miro C lol nice set up. I also want to buy the s1000 as I already have the m5. I tried my friends s1000 and I’ve never been so blown away from sheer speed. I would hit 250km/h in 5th gear only rain mode and it was in seconds
The s1000 is unbelievable. I would recommend you get one. but like any BMW be prepared to pay when something goes wrong lol
here's the pics of my rides if you wanna check them out
BMW S1000RR - ibb.co/gN6hUw
BMW E36 M3 - ibb.co/kJRGpw
BMW E60 M5 - ibb.co/bSZQhG
Miro C wow they all look sick. I love that gold on the s1000. The e36 looks dope af. The m5 in that colour is my least favourite but it’s still m5 lol. Mines alpine white but I’ve made it black n white
Thanks for the information. It seems to me, that you and I share much in common in our approach to cars. I don't have money to burn, and I have been greatly tempted to step into an E60. I currently own an E39 M5 (2003) and love it greatly, but the milage on the car has me walking on eggs. I purchased the car three years ago (2014) with 188,000 miles on it, and have really not had that many issues with it. Doesn't burn oil, has great acceleration and rides and runs out fine. But still....anyway, thanks for the honest information. It informs my thought process.
haters will always hate i have a 07 M5 Stick with 105k+ miles on it still running like a beast
Mansoor Hassan Qureshi keep it man manuals are extremely rare they only had them in the US.
That's really good!
Good to hear man! Glad it’s been great for you too, and the manual is badass
Thats because you did the smart thing and went with a manual! You dont have to worry about the stupid auto transmission giving you all those problems!
Is the AT version that much more of a maintenance nightmare than the Manual? wow
The M5 simply has Expensive Parts and Expensive Engineering. So the key is understanding the the 2 Major problems and being ready to address them before your purchase and after you own the car. Knowledge is Power. Don't be the guy who buys a Honda with a Timing Belt that is about to break and still has all the OEM parts at 200K. Thinking its going to run to 300K even when the parts are still original. As for the SMG Pump and Engine parts. I would collect the parts. Parts are like Buying Tomatoes. If you buy them at the right time and the right season, you can save a ton. I bought OEM parts from Europe that were a fraction of what I would have payed in the USA. These problems should be anticipated. I would replace them ahead of time and use a small shop that I trust and won't rip me off. You can Easily save $5000 just buy making the right decisions.
Ive seen many of your comments on car vids
Nice to see you‘re doing vids about your m5
This is the first time I’ve watched anything by you Alex. You were clear, concise, well spoken and I look forward to seeing more of your content in the future. Subscribed. thanks
Thanks for the feedback Phil I really appreciate it! Take care.
Title: Here's how much I've spent in repairs in 1 year on my V10 Bmw E60 M5
After 3 and a half minutes into the video "but lets take a look at these receipts from the previous owner"
Me: -_-
I too have an 08 E60 M5 6Sp Manual Trans, purchased over 2 years ago with 39,000 miles. Little did I know how lucky I was that the car came with an extended warranty, I wasn’t really worried about that when looking to buy one. Fast forward 60,000 miles currently, Car has had over $13,000 in repairs! Plus several weeks of not having my car while getting repaired. Sadly I’m sure it’s not over with the repairs. Warranty expired in Aug 2017, I was fortunate to get it extended again, 3 years 30k miles for a mere $5000... If you are interested in this car get a warranty!
Granted had I not had the warranty I would have done the repairs myself and would have paid a lot less but regardless it would have still sucked!
Repairs as follows.
1-ignition coils/spark plugs/ thermostat (sticking) I repaired these myself
2-Power-steering pump replaced (shop)
Thigh support motor replaced Pass-side
3-Alternator over charging/Alt replaced (shop)
4-Both Throttle body motors replaced
Vanos solenoids (all 4) replaced (shop)
Thigh support motor replaced Drive-side
To be continued...
It’s been a NIGHTMARE!
Sorry about your luck man. The alternator, throttle body motors, and vanos solenoids seem to be fairly common. Good thing you had a warranty; crossing my fingers that you are done with repairs for a while. Good luck.
NICE INFORMATIVE VIDEO
Personally I own my E60M5 with SMG since 2005 when I bought it new.
I maintain the car as it should be, now with 105000 km, not much.
But I didn't had any issues so far, no repairs.
Imagine, the clutch is still the original one, the pump not changed yet, no vanos issues, super oil analysis, so the rod bearings are just fine etc. Are we lucky?
Hope, that you will be free from any repairs also in the future and may enjoy the beast for many years to come.
Wow nice!! So you've had yours for a long time! Hopefully your pump will continue to last. Its weird, some go forever and some like mine go out below 90k miles. My oil analysis was clean too, great to see you having the same positive experience!
Greg Antono Thats great brother. You’re very lucky :) I just replaced the clutch and did the rod bearing at 89k. Make sure you do the rod bearing very soon. My oil analysis came back good, but I replaced the rod bearing regardless. Surprisedly, they were really worn out! Glad I replaced them on time.
Arash M6 l I think your are right. I am planning to change them next year, despite the opinion of my mechanic, in whom I have much respect and trust so many years. He is treating all my cars the last 25 years. Himself he is owner of a 08'M6 for about 9 years with quite a lot of km, 190'000, and he didn't change the bearings yet but will do it soon for safety reasons. He told me, that the way I drive the car is exceptional.. although when the engine is warmed up I push it to the limit whenever I can.. τhe engine is built for that, isn't it? :)
Ιt seems, that I've found a good way probably.
Because over the years I've heard so much negative opinions about the longevity of the V10, I've put money aside since 2010, and did not need to use it hahaaaa, so I bought another car for my son with that.
Wishes for a good New Year and crazy safe rides!
Great video discussing costs, I agree it's not as bad as it could be given the cars performance. My 2006 M5 just had it's SMG pump fail a few months ago at 45K miles. $3200 to replace the pump and accumulator at the dealer which was cheaper than i was expecting. A month later my starter went and that was $1200, nearly all labor as it is buried inside the car.
My E60 ///M5 was beyond unreliable. It broke down every three months - without fail.
The Clutch went........then the throttle body actuators.
While I miss the sound of the V10 - I don't miss the clunking and lurching from the SMG transmission. And I certainly don't miss having to pour a quart of 0w40 in the monster every month, and coughing up for SottoZero Winter tires. If I didn't have the extended maintenance plan and the powertrain plus warranty - I would have been royally screwed - especially on a brake job.
Anyone who buys an ///M5 without a warranty is off his rocker. I don't mean to sound overly critical - But I've owned BMW's for over ten years - including the E60 M5. You could easily sink 20 grand in repairs and maintenance on the E60 in 6 months without a warranty. The car is just not worth it.
That’s a shame that yours gave you so much trouble. The actuators seem to be common. And I agree with the oil consumption and the smg being lurchy. To me so far it has been worth it for the v10 exclusivity alone. But when/if I start having actuator issues, vanos, etc it will become too expensive to be worth it.
Well putting 0w 40 in your car will certainly mess it up. This car requires 10w 60 minimum. I do agree it's a headache of a car. Mine has 90k miles and I've already replaced the entire front end, alternator, ac compressor, thermostadt, 2 clutches, spark plugs and coil packs, and I still have tons of issues like cats going bad throwing emissions codes left and right, misfiring, secondary air pump issues, and on and on and on. I'm buying a Porsche, screw this!
QuartersEye first gen?
QuartersEye 0w40? No wonder your car was fucked.
this is a point blank blunt truth. I always want to get one but then I wonder... why is it for sale in the first place?
I've had a 335i and put 40k miles with only maintenance. 0 "repairs." It's been great. BMW is on point now days.
Good to hear!!
im intersted in this video, currently 4 minutes in and im getting annoyed, you're waffling
Yup, dude needs to get to the point! Lost interest already
he's trying to explaint the car. just skip the fucking video.
Sorry dude, also introducing the car and point of this channel, as stated on the pinned comment.
Thanks for the chance at offing feedback. I hope that what ever you share with us will be done in YOUR WAY, THE WAY YOU WANT IT LOOK AND FEEL AND SOUND AND DELIVER; Your true passion and enthusiasm perks my ears up and keeps me focused. This is the first time I have seen any of your videos because I have an opportunity to buy an M5, V10, E60. Everything you teach me provide me with more and more ammunition to us against the battle with my wife over this opportunity. IT IS ALL ABOUT OPPORTUNITY AND IMPACT. AND Brother do you make an IMPACT, for which I am appreciative. Good luck on your journey this year and remember, the small step by step changes you make may not always be so obvious to us, but when you are at the destination you have target to reach, you will look back and see the little progressions, while you might think aren't going to matter, will have made an enormous IMPACT OVERALL looking back. Who knows, maybe its the path you are supposed to take, helping outhers with your knowledge and such so that we get hyped to work harder toward achieving our goals. The first video has made a positive impact on me and I wanted to let you know that. What I would love to see is product placement ads where I can simply click on your sweatshirt and a new tab will open to the site selling that exact item at the best price possible online. Or take as a connection to your own group of 3.3 thousand that most, if not all, would love to be exposed to cool things we might not have ever seen before and decide to want it and get it. Then, you be the exclusive seller of what ever it is you have lined up show by show. I am American, but I live in South Korea, I would love to talk to you about working together in some way so that so many awesome creations, from clothing to windshield wipers, and anything imaginable inbetween, relative to motorheads,is offered through you and with quick turn over time as well. Follow me? This is an idea that just sprang up in my heard as I was finshing the sentence that started off saying, "The first video..."
Just the same. I am a fan and appreciate your time, creativity, generosity, and sharing of knowledge openly and respectfully. You know some Vlogs go on as if I am supposed to know what the hell this and that means when they are using expressions I have never heard, intermixed with, "Awesome" and "Unreal" and "Super" and like five other descriptive words.
You offer something fresh and as a car lover and learner of things I love, you certainly give me what I need, hope for, and want.
Regards,
Benjamin
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I really like that hoodie!
Yeah that sweater is stupid hard
Same !
@Eli Eli lol okay
Just bought my 2006 bmw e60 m5 and it is the funnest car I ever owned and luckily I bought it with everything already repaired hopefully it holds up for a while til I got to get it repaired. Great video!
Can't wait to get one after dental school :)
This guy is just awesome he knows how to be a genuine BMW owner....learn ppl just sit back and learn !
Why did you need to sit at a desk to say your repair cost was zero?
For the dramatic effect.
And I loved it!!
Haha
JJ Wolf because Boss
Even at $8000 that's still a lot of money for most people. And you can not deny there have been issue with M5 it's well documented.With that being said not all M5's have issue. In defense of M5 Owning any German car out of warranty can be expansive I know from experience.
I've been driving for 37yrs and never ever come close to spending $8k in repairs let alone $11k. In that time I've owned 26 cars everything from American muscle cars, JDM and German cars. One of my favorite cars that I currently own 2011 ISF that purchased new has 90k, 17 track days, is DD that is FBO + Tune with nothing more than normal maintenance rotors, pads, oil, tires etc. I'm spoiled with that one.
I will tell you this E60M5 with that V10 hi revving 8400rpm motor matched to Akrapovic exhaust and tune sounds epic what motor!!! Match it with right suspension rims and tires you have car that is still competitive much newer cars. There will never be another BMW like it ever again. So as long as you go in with your eyes open knowing what possible cost can be it shouldn't be problem.
I would definitely buy one for $15-20k... if I had another $15k set aside for parts and repairs.
Ive got a 07 M6 with 72,000 and had to replace the clutch, smg pump, the thermostat and i had all that done at an independant and i payed 7 grand for the pump , clutch, new trans fluid of course and all the labor. I payed no tax because i payed in cash. The thermostat was another 700. After that i needed new rotors and brakes, and they wanted 3500 to do all that. There was no way, so i bought the parts for around a 1 grand and did the work myself. The cost of repairing this vehicle are extraordinary, but i love the car. Its a LOVE/Hate relationship...lol. Now i have some other things i need to repair but they re small (license plate lights, ash tray cover and one of my paddle shifters) Then ill do some regular maintenance. Im still hoping to find that one stretch of road i can let her eat, and break the 160 ive had it going so far.
Awsome video man i judt sold my 335i cabrio and am considering the M6 but a little research i to the car has me thinking that ill be popping the motor within hours of ownership haha.Everyone is terified of these cars
rod bearings are a wearable item in BMW Ms.
Idc even if the M5 becomes a huge money pit. I’m still going to buy it. As long as the car puts a smile on my face, it’s definitely worth it.
Great vid. I love watching the videos and checking out the pics on Instagram, keep it up
Thank you I appreciate that!
My dad owned one back in 05 and said it was the worst car he’s ever bought.. bought it used with 6k miles and in only 1 year of ownership it was shopped for 6 months total. Various transmission problems.. ended up selling it when he had to replace the whole engine lol. Couldve been a lemon. Ended up getting a e63 amg s 2 years ago and no problems so far. Glad to see not all of the e60 m5s were bad
Driving with your fingers crossed eh? I know the feeling, my e92 335 always was in the shop. I'm so glad I got rid of it. Got a is350 now, most reliable fun car I've owned. If you can't afford a new bmw or a certified pre owned with the warranty your playing with fire.
Would rather run the risk of a $5000 repair than lose $15,000+ within a year or two in depreciation. I'll never buy a new car no matter what the brand is, not because I can't afford it but because depreciation has always out numbered my cost in repairs with every car I've owned.
Alex Gray this^^^^^^^ yes I agree!
I literally want to roll my 335i in front of a bus! I’ll never buy another bmw.
More info on your is350. I’m on the fence between that and q50 red sport and m3
@@brocklee7704 I drove my aunts is250..it was a joke compared to my 325i. Cant imagine comparing an is350 to a m3.
Owned a 2001 325i and a 2007 328i- both cars after 100k miles became nightmares financially. But hey, that's 100k miles. nice vid man.
So you would say that the v8 5 series or straight six cylinder model in the same body style Is more reliable than the v10 model
Yes, a lot less to worry about with those especially the I6. And cheaper to fix when something does go wrong.
I own an inline 6 5 series, remarkably reliable I spend about as much in maintenance as my mom does on her honda. Inline 6 models have way better mpg too and are much lighter. Soon I’ll have an M6 though so I’ll get to see what that world is like.
$600 in repairs in almost a year 15kmiles. Maybe I also got lucky! I dont mind the horror stories , everybody is different. Most reliable car I've owned and puts a smile on my face every single time! Meintenance! Good luck with your channel! You're doing great!
Thank you very much! $600 isn’t bad! What did you have to replace?
Alex Gray Clutch position sensor. Just dropped the transmission a couple inches. Did it in a couple hours in my garage. Took it to a trusted dealer and no adaptation was needed at all.
Nice! Props to you for working on it yourself.
wait till your rod bearings go out, gonna be a total shitshow
Oil analysis have been clean. But they’ll be getting replaced regardless.
You do not have to replace the whole SMG pump unit. Although every dealer/shop will tell you so. I got 4 separate quotes saying I needed to replace mine, ranging from $7k to $12k. However, after doing a lot of research I decided to do it myself: I bought the PUMP MOTOR only, some new fluid and a scanner tool for bmw. I spent around $1,000 and 1 full day in my house's garage (would probably take 2-3 hours if I had done it in a shop) and fixed it. Several months later and it runs perfect!
If you own an M5 with a SMG issue, tell them to just replace the SMG MOTOR and save a bunch! (Only the motor goes bad, the rest of the parts rarely go bad on a SMG unit )
I will never buy another V10 bmw. The worst decision I have ever made in my entire life. Engine blew and boom, hard to get a good engine for it thats worth buying after it goes boom.
What happen to the engine?
whenever your valve seals wear out around 80k enjoy dropping the entire subframe to get that monster v10 out, very tedious and meticulous process that takes about 2 days from morning to night besides that self maintenance is fairly easy until you run into internal problems. 9 times out of 10 you're gonna have to drop that entire subframe with the trans and you're looking at at least 2500-3000 for the job if you took it to a shop. tight engine bay but still one of the best cars I've owned. Great vid.
"my goal is to be quick and to the point" FAIL
I love this car man, people that don’t know shit about this car talk shit just because all they know is it has a v10 and it makes them feel insecure/jealous
Can you still purchase a bmw warranty on a used m5?
AHuman excellent ?
No it would have to be a third party warranty. However you can get a Certified Pre Owned F10 M5 which comes with a warranty.
can you get a ww2 landmine manufacturer to to warranty a bomb with a rusty detonator.... because that is what you would have.
Hello Alex, i think that the clutch could go in the maintenance category like brakes, tyres, etc. Its a part that the way it works its ment to wear right around the miles the car had when it was changed.
Great video
E60 M5 v10 one of the best sounding and most pleasent cars ever made
That's a good point, now that I think about it you are absolutely right. Thanks for watching!
the way you buy a bmw its brand new , financed , with the 100.000 miles bmw extended warranty . if you dont buy it new then you are working just for your car wasting money.
I leased my first BMW and floored it daily for three years, after seeing how well it stood up, I ended up buying my next BMW. Maintenance is free for the first four years, and the only problems I had was problems I created; ran over a rock and cracked the transmission pan. Cost of fixing the BMWs are high, I get all my work done at BMW dealer in Beverly Hills, this is where I purchased the car as well. But that's to be expected from a car made for luxury. I love BMWs, they have the perfect balance of sport and luxury.
Nice not bad! Glad to see you had a positive experience as well.
I have own 2 BMW and I have found that they spend more time in shop after two years
How so I have a m3 e36 stock from 95 and a x5 from 2004 then a bmw m5 e60, and a bmw 740e also a i3 , from all these generations I have no problems and all I do is drive , I use my e60 as a daily 280k miles spent only 478 dollars on it within 2 years and a half now
Must be the driver
Im driving my fifth right now and love them, the old ones (especially straight 6 cyl) were a dream
The newer ones are made to fall apart after a few years, but so are all german premium cars made to fail
I've never had a problem with my BMWs, and I floor the car daily. I leased the first one to check reliability and bought the second because it was reliable.
Paul Le same here that’s why I said fuck it and drive a Honda
Thank you for your contribution! I have an E63 M6! I plan to keep it forever! This is one of a kind car!
I stopped listening at 5k being a typical water pump replacement!!! I love the e60 m5 . But this car is just gonna stay a dream for me . It's just to unreliable .
No no not water pump, the SMG pump. That's in the transmission and is what engages and disengages the clutch. Its a big deal. Do what I did and find one that has already had it replaced. Or find a 6 speed manual.
Alex Gray thanks I meant to say smg pump, If end up getting a m5 I would have to find a aftermarket warranty for it . I've been doing some research on m5board.com. Nice ride enjoy.
Hey buddy saw the crash video the other day didn’t check the date it was filmed lol now a few days later I see this video feel good to see it back. Died inside seeing you crash 10 min after spending money on that ceramic
how do you drive 20-30k miles a year on a car?
Everything I do is in opposite directions. My girlfriend lives about 30 miles away, my school is 25 miles, and I go on a lot of day trips and road trips. Recent trip to Orlando was over 1000 miles in just a few days.
feel like another cheaper to maintain daily would be ideal. I live in a snowy area and the torque on M cars make them very hard to drive in the winter, unless i want to go with 280 + tires.
lloyd l how do you not
Im in market this year for either e55 amg or m5 e60...i had 535d e60 and we have w212 with amg package ( diesel engine thou but suspension is stif and wheels /tires are same as in e63 amg) and its obvious that e60 handles much much better...with w211 e55 im planing to swap suspension for bilstein b12 as soon as i buy car so this handling gap will be smaller. But im still thinking about e60..exhaust note, look,handling are for shure much better than e55 amg but im concearned about handling..its not much of a problem to swap rod bearings at first oil change,or even buy car with shot engine and swap it or rebuild (have own shop ) This video makes me think about m5 again, i dont do much miles a year but i drive hard so propably blowing engine in my hand would be easier than in someone who ride it slow. Overal im from europe so working on european cars and getings parts is propably simpler and chepear than in usa
i love bmws and this m5 but as a pleb there is a reason i switched to japanese cars ($$$)
Completely understandable! I wish there was a Japanese V10 other than the LFA lol.
Excellent video. I've owned an 08 e90 328xi for three years now and have 2 repairs (beyond maintenance, as you stated) totaling $1100. My F30 that I've owned for a year now has $0 repair fees this year (fingers crossed) and is a 2014. Maintain your vehicle and don't treat it like a race car, it'll last a very long time. My e90 has 168xxx miles and runs great.
Good to hear that you’ve had a positive experience with both! My next bmw will be a F platform so it’s nice to know yours has been great so far. My previous E60 550i was just maintenance as well in the 30k miles I owned it for. Take care man.
20 k? Seriously? Not a true test of ownership. Talk to me after 120 k.
The title clearly says “one year”, not sure how you expected 120k from that. But had you watched the entire video you would’ve seen that I also went over the receipts from the previous owner, who basically had the car since new. So in fact I did go over all repairs until my current mileage 110k.
I Bought an e60 550i M Sport from a guy who serviced the car religiously at Vista BMW...! This car is A Brute. I know it’s Not the M5 but I will Buy one soon. I also do all the Maintenance on my Cars.
Give it another year or so and you will see your Beamer in the shop more then on the road. Trust me
Paul Le it’s a ten year old car dude you’re barking up the wrong tree
CylinderHeadE60 Exactly!
Paul Le if you’re gonna talk shit at least get it right. It’s BIMMER. A Beamer is a motorcycle.
roundhouse
Paul Le stop Talking shit man. The Problem is People don't Drive the car properly. Thats the reason why some m5 Cause Problems.
I spend at least $4000 per year on my 2002 X5 4.4i. One more $6000 repair and my mechanic can not find another thing to fix. That item will be the timing chain, water pump and valve cover gasket.
I like the car and its pretty new considering I replaced everything on it including the subframe.
I've never owned a BMW because I'm a mechanic. BMW's are laughably horrid lol
It's pretty sad when Porsche 911 has a MUCH much better break/fix rating....that's saying something. BMWs are total F'n JUNK
3 series is the way to go anything above thats used dont buy
VTEC!!!!!!!!!
What about the N54 engine, i've heard that the engine is the 21'st century 2JZ.
@@h.a.4600 i have one in my 335i and it's been pretty good. it has some hiccups and issues along the way but overall the engine has been good.
I love the E60 M5 I always wanted one. But growing older and understanding that cars are a liability I have avoided buying one. Main reason the markup value on parts is just crazy, compared to the actual resale value of the car just makes no sense. And good luck trying to get parts the same day if the car breaks down. It's like BMW designs their cars to be trouble free before 60k miles. Good luck with your car man, she is looking good
First 3 mins yappin
Huge thanks as someone looking and considering getting one its nice to finally hear the good stories of it rather than the "it cost me 10k to fix this thing kinda story" so thank you look forward to more videos.
Thank you! Trust me I was the same way, I considered this car for the longest time. Finally pulled the trigger and took a chance lol.
That’s really good! I love the V10 M5! If I ever owned one, I would buy it in the manual. Though you haven’t had any repair costs as of yet, you will, and having the manual would be he cheaper way to go, and also the funner transmission. You did the right thing finding an M4 SMG that’s had the pump and clutch replaced already. Those are two of the biggest costs of repairs for the car.
I own an E46 M3, and after shelling out a lot of $$ for a mechanic to work on my car back in the day, I learned that the car isn’t that hard to work on. Now that I have a garage, I only take it to mechanics if it’s software related. Anything else, I do myself. The same would go if I owned the E60 M5
My 2010 M5 owned for 2 years.. cost $15000.00 in repairs. I had to rebuild the engine because of hydro lock and took out left bank of cylinders. So what I've done..had to bore and sleeve the engine, 90thou overbore, new 12.5 - 1 Carillo pistons, new H-beam Carillo rods, new engine stud kit, new HP bearings.
3 1/2 minutes of pure introduction that I will not get back in my life
Here here! I've owned my 2006 for 6 years now. Now with 90K on the odometer, the only major issues I've had are the SMG clutch and main computer unit. I've spent about $8,000 in repairs over six years. I think all the bad rap comes mostly from those who drove the car too hard. Specifically, full throttle upshifts. The fastest way to accelerate is to set the SMG on the fastest setting, and just upshift without lifting off the throttle. This is incredibly hard on the whole drive train though. If you drive like that all the time, you're just begging for trans and diff failures.
That’s good to hear man that’s not too bad! And I definitely agree, the shifts in S6 setting are brutal, can’t be good to do that 24/7. Take care!
Just picked up a very low mileage M6. Love your videos!
V10 bmws and mercedes have had many problems in the past, I'm sure new cars are more reliable but don't think because your new model has not had any problems yet that people just hate on them for no reason, most of the hate is warranted. The thing about BMWs is - trying to fix it yourself is really just a bigger pain than it needs to be - so used BMW out of warranty makes no sense for the average car enthusiast. And dude, 20,000 miles a year is just a above average, I would still call that normal but not a high mileage hero.
SMG hydro unit has been on backorder for apprx 2 years so its almost impossible to locate outside the dealer, who also has people/shops in line to receive the few that they're releasing every few months. So realistically the unit will run about $6500, before labor, clutch, and dual mass flywheel. I'd say about $10k is spot on for cost expectancy.
I can agree the bmw m5 is amazing car, its not for everyone, the cost of ownership is the hardships of high end cars. This maybe why bmw has such a reputation you speak of. I drive toyota and honda because its not gonna be an issue.
Thanks for the video.. I have my 08 6 speed manual for exactly a year now and have done 6K HARD miles. It was very well maintained by the previous owner when I bought it at 78k miles. Still mostly stock with just a Supersprint X pipe, pulley, BMC filter, and KW V3's.. have done several roll races and a couple of dig runs, and always spirited near redline runs when the family is not with me. Will be doing trackdays next year. Knock on wood it never gave me any issues. Only thing is the oil - this bad boy didnt like Liqui Moly as it was having lifter noises. So I stayed with TWS. I have already changed the oil twice and Blackstone readings look good for copper @ 3. And of course the rear tires.. you gonna replace them frequently even if you dont even try.. haha.. Going to get a nice dyno tune locally and have the rod bearings done this May after the warranty expires. And to top this off its also a roomy family car - my 26 month old daughter loves how it sounds =).. I have the luxury of having several vehicles so this car only comes out on a totally dry day and special occasions. Overall, a great reliable car that never disappoints. Always in M mode.. Love it!
Congrats on finding a manual! They are very hard to find. Funny your car didn’t like the liquimoly, that’s all I use now. My car burned through the bmw Castrol very quickly but with liquimoly I’m having to add a lot less between changes. I had a clean blackstone report too, hopefully our cars continue to be reliable for us, especially during track use. Have fun and take care!
I’ve had my 2008 BMW M6 Coupe W/40K
I’ve put around 8K miles on it(less than 48K now). Within that time only big job I’ve had to do was replace the starter. I’ve done oil changes, tires, brakes, pads - normal stuff.
I love the car & it’s power but I wouldn’t mind selling it, I barely drive it.
You earned a new subscriber, great job on the detail I have been looking into having a m5 as a project car for years now but the lack of videos on how to work on the e60 discouraged me, thanks to you I have my eyes set on this again.
I’ve got a 2005 e60 m5 with smg and as you’ve stated about the pump I’ve had to change mine it was a second hand pump but has been great for over a year the car has done 132k and runs like a dream I’ve had it for 4 years and hasn’t had much only tyres and pads and discs oh and plenty of fuel ⛽️.
That's awesome the M5 was pain free. I owned a 2006 X5 4.4 special sport package years ago as the 2nd owner. Relatively low miles with service records and clean carfax. Had it inspected prior to purchase...yet I spent $5500 within 1yr and a half with only like 10k miles put on due to it being a 2nd vehicle AND it spending so much time in the shop...
Damn it, that is unfortunate, I've always loved those sport package X5s with the V8. I considered one but they are a bit hard to find. Sorry about your experience.
260+K e61 M5 touring, owned it from new, it's at circa its purchase price in running costs (BMW, the same dealer who registered it) but, despite its costs, that S85 with its hint of five-cylinder warble, ruinous costs, crap mpg, dire build quality - especially coming from an e38 - the e61 is flawed in so many ways, yet just so much more epic than it's reputed to be.
I got mine this is what I'm dealing with.
-EDC Module Failure
-TCU Module Failure
-DME Errors
-Throttle actuators failure (replaced them bad boys
-Replaced new air intake filters
-Replaced Cabin Filters
-Replaced Oxygen Sensors
-Steering pump seems to be going out.
-Rear Axle was damaged needs replacement
-Rear right bearing is bad needs replacement
-Differential has small leak needs to be re-sealed.
-Error in passenger right side mirror for heating
-Tire Pressure sensors went bad need replacement
-Disks went bad need replacement
-Clutch & Fly wheel are bad need replacement soon ( it is a 6 speed manual)
-Interior needs touch ups.
-Xenon Bulbs went out
-Comfort Access electronics in passenger side door went bad so it needs replacement ( I chose to temporarily disable the comfort access as it was draining my battery
-All engine mounts had to be replaced as well as transmission mounts. Front control arms needed replacement
-Replaced Oxygen sensors
-Replaced all spark plugs.
-Cleaned both mafs Bank 1 and Bank 2.
-Lately there is a whine when starting the engine cold it seems to either be the power steering pump or the vanos pump or solenoids or pulleys? Not sure still trying to figure it out.
-So far I did a lot of the work myself.
-All car disks need to be replaced as they have gotten too low.
-Memory seats not everything works.
-Chasing an issue with battery shorted wire.
-Cooling Thermostat is bad.
-Master switch on driver's side does not operate properly as the passenger (left side) button is broken ( i try not to touch it)
-Car has 95,000 miles. Surprisingly it does not eat oil. Surprisingly rod bearings haven't exploded yet. Surprisingly vanos hasn't exploded yet.
Bought it for $17,200 2008 BMW M5 E60 - 6 speed manual black sapphire. Guy who sold it to me was Atlanta Motorsports, a complete and utter garbage scammer that pre-deleted all codes, had me drive all the way down from Florida up into Atlanta to buy the car only to discover I got a super shitty deal as soon as I took car and begun driving it down to Florida.
Damn man sorry to hear that the guy was a scammer. If it makes you feel better I bought my 08 smg for $19,700 with 90k miles. So I actually think you got a really good deal for a LCI 6 speed. 2008+ are the most reliable, unfortunately it seems like he didn't take the best care of it. My diff had to be resealed as well and just started doing the power steering whine on cold starts but its not every time. Good luck man and congrats on finding a 6 speed.
@@AlexGray where do you live bro? If you re close to me I can help you with all diy. We can reseal that entire dif easy.
Valve cover gaskets go on BMW every 20-30,000 miles and is 1200$ to 1800$ each gasket,alternator seal 30-60,000 miles and is 1800$-2800 and coolant pipe go every 60,000-80,000 and boy oh boy that's 2,000- to 8,000 good luck cause it was on all BMW 02-10 good luck bro I jus sold my 745li and encountered all those problems in 3yrs
If youre willing to part ways with $1800 for a valve cover gasket and $8k for a coolant hose than you must be one of the most gullible and mechanically inept people on the planet. BMW is obviously not for you. Stick to Honda civic or toyota echo, youll be much happier.
06 M6 S85-V10 130,000 miles got mine at 80k $1200 for SMG clutch position sensor. 1 throttle actuator fail at 127k, alternator fail at 120k. Other than the CPS car has been money, it's a daily driver
And you still own this car.Bmw love you can't let that 10 go baby.
Beautiful car what a design! Looks like it just came out of the Gym Big, Muscular, Beautiful rims straight out of factory, come on 500+ HP and 500+ PFT, that's Ferrari, Lambo, Mc. Claren or Tuner type of power on an elegant design, car that you could daily drive, is a perfect car, if the car has known issues, well then take that as part of it's maintenance IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT BUY IT! if you like it buy it, of course if you will take care of it, any car you take care of will do the same for you! Congrats to this owner for having such a beautiful car...
With respect to the pump. It mostly is not necessary to replace the whole pump - just the pump motor which is a $400-$600 part.