Why I'm Radically Against Tipping Now | Asmongold Reacts
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argument: "if you can't afford to tip, don't eat out"
counter-argument: "if you can't afford to pay your workers, don't set up a business"
don’t be surprised when your food gets thrown at your porch
Would be a much more accurate question if you were answering to the workers, not the owners.
Not tipping doesn’t effect the owners income, it only punishes the servers that are reliant on tips to pay their bills.
@@ChrisCloudz dont be suprised when you get fired and I get free credit lol. go back to school.
@@kazeykb5047 get a better job
Japanese here, tipping is a scam and if you tip here in Japan you’re disrespectful.
do your minimum wage laws not apply for restaurant workers?
Calling them peasants essentially?
There is nothing wrong with wanting to tip, the issue is mandatory tipping and tipping culture in general. And yeah, Japan is different in many aspects, and any foreigner visiting should respect how you guys operate there.
if you want to tip, you have to do it as a form of gift but _not tipping_
We know
Crazy how an act of kindness turns into an expectation
*exploitation
I work at a restraunt here in PA. The servers get paid 1.80$ hourly they rely on tips. You make there wage it sucks but greedy corps don't pay there employees.
You mean like how you expect someone to wait on you and fill your drinks and bring you all of your shit like condiments or refills you don’t get charged for and only have to pay for the food? Yea ok
@@thomb6829dude, work on something else LOL
It's actually normal... they get used to it... then they expect it... then they get upset when they don't get it.
What's messed up is how servers are paid less with the expectation that they'll make up the difference through 20% tips. In the old days, tipping was optional and a compliment, but now it's mandatory. I recently had a plumber do about $800 worth of work on a renovation, and when I paid, there was a tip request. I thought, "Dude, this is your business, you charge $70+ per hour, and you want a tip?" I don't think that's professional. It's not like servers who barely make minimum wage without tips.
it's worth pointing out that most restaurants have very slim profit margins and "pay your workers more" is just going to result in your meal being more expensive anyway. as a consumer, I'd rather pay $15 for food and then throw a couple extra bucks directly at my server than pay $20 flat for my food. tips are meant to be an extra reward for good service and that's still how I treat them, a good waitress that serves, say, 100 tables in a shift, with an average tip of $2 per table, she'll pull in an additional $200 per shift in tips, if she works, say, 5 shifts a week that's $1000, which is nothing to shake a stick at. it's also worth noting that, if those tips are largely in cash, she can just stick hat cash straight in her change jar at home and not say shit and those greedy useless goblins at the IRS can eat a bag of dicks. it's not tipping that's the problem it's people's shitty attitudes.
bs i rather pay 20 or whatever instead of 15 and servers get a good salary than mandatory tip 20%@@gmanplaysgames256
My same thoughts on tattoo artists... tip if you want but spending hundreds on something big does not require a tip, it requires you do the math on your business properly.
but I bet you tipped anyways
@@gmanplaysgames256 we have a country literally surrounded by farmland . During The Great Depression we fed all of Europe during WW2
And we're subsidized by government. And we have GMO's and new agricultural science now. People can barely afford food today. It blogges the mind how humanity ever managed to have subsistence farming, the advent of civilization. Superstitious entities really must have been what made the crops grow back then.
The problem is Greedflation capitalism. Capitalists just think one individual can just start their own supply chain for their tiny restaurant to source cheap ingredients.
Required tips aren't tips, they are fees. If it's a fee, put it in the damn bill.
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Fees get taxes, tips don't ;)
@@gazvlogs7459Tips are still taxed. Now if you get cash and don't put it in your end of the year ez that's in you but tips are absolutely taxed
@@gazvlogs7459 Tips are supposed to be taxed too, while of course we know that often doesen't happen in reality, but that is on paper the case.
@@TheArrowedKnee No one was enforcing it under the biden regime decided to stick its nose into cash deposits of $600 or more for the purpose of taxing them, which is easily a weeks worth of tips. Meanwhile biden and his donor buddies pay nothing in income taxes but the rest of us get the IRS up our ass if we get combined birthday gifts of $600 in cash.
Back in 2014 I got pretty bad service from a waitress at a sushi restaurant, and didn't leave a tip. She chased me down and started explaining that in the US you're supposed to leave a tip. I looked her and said, "For good service."
"Yes for servic-"
"No, for good service."
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Also who is the tip for, just the server? What about the cook? Thanks for your service making my yumyums. And on the other side, uber eats and other drivers will ignore a delivery if they aren't getting a good tip upfront. No thanks and the restaurant most likely operates a loss to subsidize the app
You still had them serve you. Tip them poorly for bad service, sure, but no tip at all? You should’ve been made to get the food yourself, if anything.
It’s the entitlement that if you don’t tip, they’re going to fuck with your food. That’s the part that gets me. It makes me want to help you even less.
That’s why I order from places that ask for the tip AFTER I’ve eaten my food, so they don’t get the tips and so don’t get spit in my food.
They won't know if you tip until the end lol
@@floridamulletman5000Some places make you tip beforehand
And than im going to break into their apartments while they're out getting tips.
well then I get to sue for food malicious food poisoning. win win.
In Spain we almost never tip and nobody gives a shit. You pay for a service, period. All costs are included within the price. If you tip it's because it was an extremely exceptional (and rare) service, and even then the tip it's like 5%. It's not being cheap, it's not being an idiot
what a storyteller, especially in Catalonia nobody tips
Tip was normal when most of the bills were paid in cash. Now, usually is paid with card. Some years ago i asked in some places if I added a tip on the bill and paid with card the owner took into account and give it to the workers. Most of them said, "no, it goes to the owner". I rarely tip since then and never if I pay with card.
I saw it summed up well like this:
Tipping is a business’s way of paying their employees stupid low, and then shifting the blame to the customer so the employee gets mad at the customer for not tipping instead of being mad at the company for not paying them well in the first place
Most of those employees dont want to be paid a decent wage since they can make 5 times or more money from tips and dont have pay taxes for them either.
@@Torguemada What do you mean they don't have to pay taxes? How old are you? What year do you think this is?
Everyone pays by card. All credit card tips are tracked and taxed because they're paid through the POS system. The only tips that might not be taxed are cash tips and almost no one pays with cash.
Yeah except restaurants that don't have tipping have a hard time having servers stay. Because they prefer getting cash they don't have to report and make way more on fri/Sat.
this and alot of it are bars and had whole in the wall restaurants.
The thing that gets me is the server having to auto tip out the back end on every check assuming they’re getting a tip and docking them money not just taking a percentage for the actual tips they earn. But realistically tip culture is just insane and has been entirely busted for a long time!
''We expect you...'' -Imma have to stop you right there.
lmfao on god
Thank you 🙏🏼 😂
I used to be a delivery driver for a couple of years, and we had a sign on the wall saying that we would be compensated if we didn't get enough tips to at least make minimum wage. So I was never concerned about whether or not I got tipped and just tried to treat the customer right. But some of the drivers would throw fits if they didn't get (pre) tipped as much as they felt they deserved... Just stop tipping and let these businesses be left liable for covering what they should've been paying their employees this whole time.
I walked in and paid $25 for two SUBWAY foot long subs yesterday. Remember when they were $5 each a few years ago? At the card machine it immediately brings up a tip window with varying percentages. I click NO TIP. What the hell are these clowns expecting more money from ME for doing their job? They get paychecks for that. They're not working below minimum wage... far from it thanks to the roughly $15 starting wages nowadays.
Check out tipping is extra shady too. Who knows how much of that even goes to the employee
Not only that but you already had to hold their hand and tell them how to make said sandwich. What a joke.
I remember Adam Carolla had a rant about tipping.
"What if I just opened a mattress store? Then I announce to all my customers "Hey customers, I don't pay my employees well, so I need you to pay them a little extra, because I am announcing that I don't pay my employees well." How long would that mattress store stay open?
thats not even the reality in most states anymore. Why are servers in fucking California still complaining with $18/hour? lmfao. Businesses are LEGALLY required to pay a minimum wage. And up in Canada? Tipping might be the funniest stay-broke system NA has developed.
technically mattress salesman do not get paid well they are usually paid on commission. Which would be like instead of the money for the food going to the restaurant a portion goes to the employee... so a tip built in. I wonder if you could run a restaurant on commission.
@@TheKaranEditionanother braindead comment. They're making $18 sure, but you're assuming they're getting 40 hours. They're getting $18 and their hours are cut WAY back, and they could be sent home at any moment as soon as business dies a little. If you were making $18 an hour, scheduled 36 hours, only getting 23 hours, and rent is $1500 for a shoebox wtf are people supposed to do?
@@unlisted9494 get another or different job?
@@markbrown8097 care to enlighten me as to where all of these supposed jobs are, these millions of jobs hiring people paying $20 an hour and giving you 40 hours a week? Where are they? I'm genuinely asking as someone who has 8 years of retail management experience, who applied for over 100 jobs and got 1 call back. I think you have a VERY skewed idea of the job market.
The jobs you're referring to LITERALLY don't exist, and the ones that do, they aren't hiring hundreds of people. They're hiring 1, maybe 5. How many servers do you think are in your city alone? How many bartenders? How many of them HAVE A DEGREE that nobody will hire them for because every place expects 3-5 years of experience in that field, but nobody can get experience because they don't already have it.
Stop living in fantasy capitalism world and live on planet earth for a moment.
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@@bezoznaught5261 all the white dudes who grew up not knowing any better*
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We do that in Finland: taxes are included in the price in shops, and tipping is only when service is exceptional. Waiters are paid a living wage.
That's the standard in over 190 countries.
“20% is the standard”
From there you know they’re just lying.
Tipping has evolved to a point where it's not about appreciation for good service but more of a social obligation and implicit rule. The power should remain in the hands of the customer without any guilt attached.
I've been a radical anti-tipping ever since they asked for a tip, on a fking self-checkout machine.
@@faisfaizal5194 who is that money even going to? The owner? Gtfo with that on a self checkout. Tipping is way out of hand and the employer should be ashamed of themselves.
@@danielschmaderer pretty sure they go to charities, and it would be illegal to facilitate donation funds.
Though since when have businesses been squeaky clean
only time i will tips is when give me a good service at a sit down restaurant - every other places? hell no.
That is just plain stupid because technically on a self checkout machine, you serve yourself and thus if you give a tip, that money should go to yourself in the form of a discount off of your goods. No one else aside from you should be receiving a tip at a machine where you are doing the work.
Ive been a radical ever since an American berated me for saying mandatory tipping is a scam. How entitled can you be?
The one that really shattered the illusion for me was when I went to a local arcade. You pay to get tokens to play pinball/games.
And they asked for a tip when I was buying FUCKING TOKENS?!?
Portuguese here: Tiping is meant to thank for the good service and not to suplement a salary that the employer is not wiling to give! We tip if you are well treated, with kindness, respect and good food. Other wise we won't tip and make sure we let you know the food as shit!
"we expect you to tip 20%" - an owner
"we expect people to get paid at least the minimum wage" - the people
"We get paid at least minimum wage regardless but with tips we make much more, shhh" - The Waiters.
They do get paid minimum wage.
In the US currently, tipped employees are only paid at least $2.13 per hour. The regular minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. These are both federal rates, and there is a definite difference. However more than half the states have either a higher than federal rate, or no difference between the two. There's like 16 states that follow the federal tip rate.
@@ParabolicLabs That is false. Employers are required to make up the difference if the tipped employees made less than $7.25 by federal law. You can check department of labor for that
@@samuelchen454 Nothing I said was false. It's literal facts. What you're talking about is only valid if the tipped employee doesn't make $30 or more in tips each month. Go on, go read it.
20% to take your order? Your server doesnt even bring the plates to the table most the time.
20% for cold coffee? Nope
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my rule is if they are refilling my drink, i will tip.
That’s because servers “tip out” other people in the restaurant. I work as a server, and we tip out 6% of our sales to bussers, food runner, drink runner and bartenders.
@@Vardeth805 Bussers should not get a tip. A tip for cleaning the tables? Give me a break.
The problem all stems from the government allowing employers to pay servers below minimum wage based on the assumption that they will get a regular flow of tips to supplement their wage. But a lot of corporate restaurants have tip sheets where you log your tips for the week and if your total tips plus paycheck is below minimum wage the company is required to account for the rest. The problem with that is that most employees are never made aware of it.
20% of what I order? So if one person goes in and orders champagne and lobster thermidor or seven people goes in and orders a glass of water each and the seven cheapest things on the menu , the serving personal will have more work with the party of seven than the one, but will get more money from the one customer than the seven. How is this even logical?
are you tipping your mailman? a construction worker? no. staff should be paid accordingly by the employer. it is not the responsebility of the customer if the staff can pay their bills.
tipping culture enables misuse of kindness.
the only good deed is an honest deed!
Exactly. I own a roofing company and we've been out in the heat all summer, it's usually 120° on an asphalt roof, and we don't get tips (nor expect or solicit them). I pay my employees and it's priced into the cost of the roof.
If we're working 10+ hours in excessive heat and don't expect tips, why should some barista in an air conditioned coffee shop? They shouldn't, and if the owner expects it, they should increase their prices and pay their employees accordingly.
The whole reason why tipping became a social norm in America is because people felt sorry for underpaid black workers who were employed by the hotels before the civil rights movement, The hotel industry lobbied the government to keep workers wages at slave labour levels which still exist today. You seen some waiters on 4 dollars an hour in 2024 and the difference is supplemented by the taxpayer if they do not receive equviance in tips to the national minimum wage.
So not only are you being scammed for tipping. You are being scammed by the government having to tax the tips you send out and prevent people withholding information on the tips they received. You pay the tip and the wages and the wages of the fraud investigators and court cases brought against fraudsters lol.
@@kylemenos the government doesn't set wages or keep them low, the company does. Its not the governments job nor their fault if wages are too low. its the fault of the company, the employee and the customers. The only way the government does actually keep wages low is by stifling competition and killing small businesses with taxes, fees and regulations.
Delivery drivers and waitresses make below minimum. If you want to fix tipping culture then you'd have to first get rid of the employer's ability to underpay employees. Even half of the 'delivery fee', is taken by the employer. Drivers make like half their hourly wage while driving and they have to constantly clock in and out. They also fight over houses they know will tip more and it creates a ridiculous iniquity for new drivers that don't know yet.
This video and the comments are all failing to understand what's going on.
@@nyne2022We know exactly what's going on, we're being scammed into paying salaries for people we don't employ. Just stop tipping and let the whole business model collapse. Nowhere else in the world works that way, the waiters will find better paying jobs.
Remember folks tipping ensures companies will never pay their employees a fair wage.
Sort of a catch 22. If you tip, it ensures that the companies continue to not pay their employees a fair wage. If you don't tip, you are ensuring that the employees don't get a fair wage.
On a side note, many employees make much more than a fair wage from tips.
@TyrianHaze and the supposed fair wages that are being passed are causing their food prices to go uup, which makes people walk cause their food usually isn't worth it.
@@TyrianHaze beat me to it lmao, I have some friends that bring in 900 a week with 3 nights of work. Wonder how they feel about tipping 😂
@@TyrianHaze It's not my responsibility to pay their employees, I'm not the employer. The only catch 22 here is that you believe this is a catch 22.
@TyrianHaze
That used to be true but in USA they tax the tips.
I think 12:00 is spot on. Also the parts about the expected tip. Where I live, tips can't be included as part of minimum wage, tipping is on top of minimum wage, we pay by tapping credit/bank cards almost exclusively, not cash, and the terminal usually presents options of 10/15/20%, 18/20/22%, 15/20/25%, something like that. Very rarely I've seen 30% as an option, and that's really pushing it here. And of course you can always enter you're own % or 0. I tip the most when I'm able to, but I don't expect one single other person to do so. Give what you can; what you want to. Also the services expecting tips has changed. There is no rhyme or reason to it and it's always been that way. Saying these jobs deserve tips but these others don't makes no sense. Which service to tip is custom only and varies country to country, region to region.
I just order takeout and pick it up myself. No service had, no tip given
Tipping is to show appreciation for extra good service, when it's seen as mandatory it's a tax.
There is no such thing as extra good service, it's literally part of the job to do that anyway.
my mom brought me my meals too...even cooked it by herself, so what exactly do these people to deserve extra money? i want a tip too.
@@klzeccwozi1290I mean yeah it’s their job but they get paid like 5-7$ an hour if they’re not getting tips which is absurdly low. I agree they should get paid sufficiently by the company but the reality is that they don’t, so I do think if you are completely unwilling to tip you shouldn’t be going to restaurants where servers rely on tips. It’s not their fault, and for anyone who says “just find a different job” a lot of times it’s young people with little work experience or college kids who can’t work full time at a real job.
I don't tip for any service. I'm not here to pay your rent.
There's nothing more cringe than the owner of a restaurant fighting for tips - they literally benefit from it.... massively...
I don't understand that. If they benefit from it massively why wouldn't they fight for tips?
@@gh3meister doesn't make it not cringe
@Nomad_OG yes, but you put it after that like it is the reason it is cringey when it is obvious an owner would want something that they benefit from
@@gh3meister real and true
everyone benefits except the customer, i don't understand why everyone pins this all on business owners.... wait staff DO NOT WANT regular wages, they run off with a huge bag from tipping
This is only a problem in the USA. In central europe nobody expects you to tip. The waiter earns enough without tips. Not tips required for him to earn enough money. It's not mandatory or expected to tip anyone here.
I just got back yesterday from 14 days in London and Paris, and there was only one restaurant we ate at the entire trip that did NOT include a service fee of 10-12%. They don't expect you to tip, they build it into the bill. Half the menus stated they do this, half did not state it, but included the service fee anyways.
I'll also point out that the service provided is very different than in the US. In the US, you expect the server to check on you from time to time to refill drinks and various things. In London and Paris, if you need something, you flag your server down and ask for it. This isn't better or worse, just a different expectation. If you're not aware of this different type of service, it can seem like bad service.
The tipping culture in GB died out about 20 years ago, but even then 10% was the normal tip amount. Tipping in the US is out of hand, and will eventually go the same route. The original intent was good, reward those who provide great service, but it's now an expectation rather than a reward.
In BR we also have this service fee on some restaurants, I try to avoid them as much as I can because I see it as mandatory tip.
But I think in most of them you can say that you do not accept this fee and they will remove it from your bill.
Maybe it's just difference in culture but I don't want waiters checking on me constantly, they do it in some places here, but most places I can simply raise my hand and they will come to check if I need something, maybe because I am used to it but I prefer it this way.
exactly. my girlfriend is a server & make .12 cents a fucking hour after tax, the only money any sever makes are tips & thats it
@@2001kb you probably went on places for tourists
@@calebday6988 If you live in the US and have her payslips, hundreds of lawyers will be falling over themselves to make a tonne of easy money from suing her employer.
What psychologically mess with my head is tipping for a cup of coffee when the coffee is worse then what I make at home, higher in calories and costs more.
It's like paying people to pee on you.
2:08 "San Fansisco startup called 'Up Tip'... aims to facilitate cashless tipping."
I'll take 600 for problems that already have a solution.
People are much more willing to part with their money it they physically cannot see it. Cashless tipping was to be expected with greedy business practices.
@@mrbigboymemebigboycashless tipping has been normal for years. Idk why we'd need a start-up for that
I swear I can remember as far back as like 2002 when the waiter/waitress would tell my dad 'That will be 74,50 (or w/e)' and he'd respond 'please make it 80' and then he'd swipe his debit card. it's insane to have a startup for something I know for a fact was already easily doable 22 years ago.
I was thinking the same thing: What do they accept puppies instead of cash?
Why is everything in California so awful?
I drive Lyft and 95% of passengers don't tip me, then I walk into a place to get some food and they spin that tip screen around at the counter. Just FOAD with that shit
Yeah the tipping at random places is annoying for sure
Why, when I order carry out, do they still ask for a tip? Like... I ordered carry out because I didn't want to tip.
@@ajolleyduck2933 they don't ASK but it's implied when they spin the screen around and give you that awkward look, which is absolutely ridiculous because most of these employees don't even bring the food to your table these days. They hand you a buzzer or number and you walk up to the counter to get it yourself, expecting a tip in those kinds of places is such a scam.
@hussle2654 yup. Extremely ridiculous. And I only tip for delivery because it's expected of me, but this may have convinced me otherwise now
@@ajolleyduck2933 you gotta tip for delivery, they won't deliver your food if there isn't a tip. They literally work for tips too so they have all the incentive to not deliver your food without the tip
I was asked for a tip at the self checkout at a Cincinnati reds game 😂😂😂
In my country, if you see a tip jar on the cashier, it's almost always a donation box for an orphanage. Theres no tip.
"it's not that simple." Take it from somebody who felt "stuck" in food service for 15 years, then decided to leave and get into engineering/manufacturing, IT IS that simple.
@@TheHeroClass as an electrician, I can absolutely agree. There’s an out to work that is needed that pays VERY well. It just takes wanting to make the change.
for the people who need to hear this. move into a cheap roommate situation. work a beginner job. buy a cheap car with cash. maintain it. while you are working that beginner job apply to beginner manufacturing job that pays more. save money for education from local trade school/community college program (inquiry with them/search online what jobs) with a guaranteed high paying job. graduate/ get certification. Move anywhere in the usa, work, repeat earlier steps to save up for home. American Dream.
08:55 The sentence " iTs nOt tHaT sImPlE " has been stigmatized so much, that whenever I hear it, I know the person saying it, is full of shit.
I 100% agree with OP.
Staying stuck is a fear based choice.
@@Monorissjust like every word and sentence some people start with nowa days .. when they use certain words or start a sentence this way I just think “right I’m turing off right now because this is about to be bull crap”
I worked in the service industry for 7+ years, am almost always very pro-tip, but I'm starting to agree with the more anti-tipping sentiments because it's gotten too ridiculous. Even when I go out to eat at a sit-down restaurant, the server tells me to scan my own menu with a QR code, put in my own order on a tablet at the table, then a runner that isn't even my server brings my food out, then when I pay they hand me a tablet to swipe my own card. I'm supposed to tip 25% to a person I barely spoke to and didn't even do anything for me? Also, I can't even buy groceries anymore where I BAG MY OWN STUFF without getting prompted to tip at the end... it's crazy.
Sounds like McDonald's. Do you tip McDonald's ?
Sounds like Chilis, I stopped going there when they implemented the table ordering system, I’m not even sure if they still do it but I’m not willing to go back to see either
@@romano3771 what's funny is McDonald's really don't need to tip. They can prompt to donate to their house fund charity fair enough, but why should I tip for fast food? It's meant to be cheap shitty grub. It's not high end, there's no expected standard for service outside of basic respect. Hell, the McDonald's House Charities helped my mother when she couldn't find a place to stay overnight after giving birth to my sister. There are plenty of reasons to donate. There are very little, if any, to tip.
It's only in USA. please don't export it :)
It's definitely gotten out of hand. I was a poker dealer for 10 years, made most of my money from tips and it was a great job! But at this point I'd rather see companies pay their employees fair wages and do away with tipping.
If anything, tip screens at self checkouts should be illegal. In fact, I should get a discount for doing the work!
I am a server in a full service restaurant and I personally enjoy working for tips. The biggest problem is there is no consistency. My biggest gripe is when people come in and splurge on drinks/expensive meals and don’t tip. I feel a little guilty when the table that drinks water leaves more than 20%. It’s unfair to all parties except the restaurant owners and corporate executives who couldn’t care less. Either tipping needs to become standardized or abolished in favor of hourly wages.
Tipping in the UK is mostly done when you feel like the person assisting you in any service has gone above and beyond. It encourages them to provide a good service. If an establishment demanded a 20% tip on top of the bill here, people just wouldn’t go.
We have a minimum wage for all employees, staff are paid regardless, tips are a bonus for working hard.
That's how it used to be and how it's supposed to be here as well, but people here are easily brainwashed into doing whatever they're told.
That's how it should be
Tipping is one of the many reasons I wouldn't want to live in the US.
Some younger people started copying off of Americans earlier this year tho saying because of the cost of living people should tip .. one girl got sacked because she demanded a customer tip her in a cafe 😂 like why do we copy off of Americans problems and try to apply them to our country. It got shut down quickly and a few bosses told their staff to never ask for tips and just be greatful if someone puts money in the tip jar by the till as they are paid the minimum wage.
Was proper cringe and embarrassing copying off of Americans just because you saw it online and thought you’d get away with it here
Is getting worse here in the UK though.
I was out at a bar with work colleagues, and when I get my round in I saw they'd added a service charge...when the customer had some to the bar to order the drink! I took that charge right off and laughed about it when I got back to the table, only to find that others had paid it 😂 never went there again...
Tips should not be an obligation, but a reward for going above and beyond. It shouldn't be a way for companies to pass off their responsibility of paying minimum wage onto the customer.
see also: student loans
That's how it is in over 190 countries.
Asmon: "Stop tipping and they won't ask for it in the future"
Also Asmon: "I tip the max everytime cuz I'm rich"
bruh
We had an HVAC service guy come to our house (when I wasn’t home) and he asked my wife for a tip. ASKED HER VERBALLY. She tipped him because she felt guilty. It was a $300 job. So annoyed.
People don't realize that restaurants are legally allowed to pay their workers less than minimum wage BECAUSE we are tipping. Tipping is genuinely a bad thing.
Yeah and people would rather complain about it or make content about it rather than demanding a policy change in the state they live in.
No.... They're allowed to because people voted those laws into place.
@@nevous8why aren't YOU out there doing it?
Sounds like thats the waggie problem bud
@@unlisted9494your going to each comment and typing the same garbage. Sad no one cares
2:24 Asmon: "I think that this problem is a joke."
Me, a European: "Couldn't agree more." *closes video"
Damn that must suck to be European, brother. Hopefully things improve in your life.
@@flankman9385 thank you for the thoughts and prayers 😓😓
@@flankman9385 Considering all the social, economical and political issues in the US covered by Asmon alone, I will politely leave you with the delusion that living in Europe is a crutch. 😉
In Europe it is allowed to tip.. The restaurant owner should pay his employees well in the first place
If you tip in most places in Europe that aren't restaurants, it's straight up an insult
One of the sticking points is the statement that if you can't afford to tip, do not eat at the restaurant. If tipping were removed the costs would increase to match the tip included price, at least roughly. So now if you could not afford to tip, you literally can not afford to eat at that restaurant anymore. As it stands now, people might think you are rude, but you are allowed to not tip. So you can still eat at a restaurant you can not afford to tip in. Make the meal more expensive and people will actually not be able to afford the food.
I worked in both fast food and restaurants when I was young, our pockets are stitched to avoid accepting tips and our pay is an insult to humanity.
I moved from Canada to Finland. I got a really great haircut from a hairdresser before my wedding. I asked her where I can enter the tip while I was paying, and she said that it wasn't a thing.
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Didn't ask
Finland is a tiny nation with a fairly equalist system and steep income tax, so they can get away with anything they want, as they take enough money from all income to adjust, and allow for higher and more universal min wages, along with other support given to the people across society (so, they don't need as much money on top). America is not built like that, so tipping does actually help many jobs and people. On top of this, there has been a major culture of tipping and 'high-quality service' since the 1950s in America. Partly for this very reason and partly for cultural reasons.
Typically, what happens is, the female acts really nice and wonderful, and the male tips her for it. This is a widely known thing. I actually think like Matt: it makes sense and is a very simple, American thing, and 20% is the norm. But, the way it's been going lately is crazy, for sure, so I can see why people are anti-tipping now. And, as Asmongold said, it's the entitlement of typically Gen Z female workers now demanding tips for BAD service. This is just one element of the wider problem of the modern world and Gen Z, not innately tipping itself or the service industry. On top of that, there is now a big movement away from men even caring about women, or wanting to tip them for any service, or feeling like they need to pay them any attention. Nobody really questioned this whole thing back in the 1980s, for example, and there was a major willing culture of men actually wanting to give money to women for offering good service in cafés, diners, and otherwise.
In fact, it began in London coffee houses in about 1850 or 1860 and soon came to America.
Funny I would be against tipping except in this case lol
If you are okay with tip you are considered poor af and that's not a good thing in a country where most people are rich, or at least middle class. But you can't flex with wealth either or you are considered a prick. That's the basic rules of wealth here
@Jecttrades Actually It's: Dodn't ask. Please use correct grammar.
People living outside the US (like me)
Tipping? Its optional and the workers/servers here aren't whiny about having no tip
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I'm in Australia, I've never been asked for a tip, or felt obligated to do so.
Not that I won't, will often if it's a large group (6+) and staff have been on the ball with service, especially when we have kids with us and they're considerate of them and get them drinks and small snacks first while we wait to be served our meals. Of course, that's only restaurants.
in the US, service workers do not get full min wage.. back in the day when min wage was 5 bucks, the waitors got 2.01 plus tips... they didnt get min wage.. still dont.
@@jeffhall2411 that's half true, they have the option to either work for salaried or set wage that could be higher than the minimum or they can opt to go with a being a tipped position in which case they may make a lot more than salaried or make peanuts if it's a slow shift. Either way it's a voluntary choice. Tipped workers *opt* in and the understanding was they WORKED for those tips, not doing the bare minimum but going above and beyond, providing excellent and attentive service. Not showing up with a pulse, a bad attitude and a hand out.
@@jeffhall2411 and that's up to them to change that. Here in Europe tipping is optional, establishments owners pay full salary to their workers
I’ve worked at a restaurant for a long time. We want you to tip because our base pay is the lowest amount the company is able to legally pay us. Restaurant workers rely on you to tip in order for them to make a somewhat livable wage. One could argue “Well just get a different job.” I can tell you NO ONE who is a server wants to be a server. Everyone I work with has hopes to escape the service industry. They had no intention to stay long-term. It’s genuinely hard to find work outside of service work once you’ve been doing it for years. I thought I got lucky and got hired to work in a call center- particularly, a collections call center. The grass was not greener and I returned to being a server once again because I couldn’t find employment anywhere else. Even Walmart.
I only tip if it's a sit down restaurant, where servers come to take your order, AND if the service/food went above and beyond expected
"any time there was mandatory gratuity, i'd steal their silverware." hilarious and based 😂
My views on tipping changed dramatically when I worked at Chick-fil-a for over a year. We were not allowed to take tips. We served food and provided the pinnacle of customer service, but we COULD NOT TAKE TIPS. Publix Supermarkets are the same way too. So it began to aggravate me whenever I went to Starbucks or other Fast Service restaurants and had tip requests thrown in my face constantly. Why would I want to tip someone for the quality of a service that should be part of your job description? I will tip at restaurants, but I draw the line when the employees are making above minimum wage.
I remember as a little girl (in the 80's) my grandma would always buy the person who took the groceries to the car from Publix a can of soda from the vending machine because she wasn't "allowed" to tip them.
@@rwwr3041 my big takeaway for grocery retail is that while the cost is slightly more expensive, the service part IS what separates you from, say, Target or Wal Mart etc. If you aren't getting good service, you might as well go where it's cheaper because even if the staff is rude, at least it's cheap lmao
Do you get praise to go to work on time? No, of course not but that beyond the point. I think tipping have been turn into an excuse for the suit at the top to not paying live able wage
But honestly you guys shouldnt tip for anything. Thats how we do it here in europe works just fine and most of the time if we "tip" its at a restaurant and we just let the waiter keep the change if its something like few euros. Alltho because most people pay with cards you dont even do that. I guess if you have some loose change in your pocket you could put it in a tip jar.
Chick fil a based af
you will still have to pay for waiters, one way or another.
take texas: mean wage ~$14, minus $2.13 subminimum tipped wage, customer tips make up the remaining 12ish dollars an hour. delete tipping overnight, wage goes to $7.25$ total. waiters aren't that dumb, they're not going to just eat a 50% pay cut, so they negotiate back to $14/h with the restaurant. restaurant is also not dumb and won't/can't just eat a 660% cost of labour increase, so menu prices go up to cover the cost, which is what you end up paying again.
the real question is why you'd want this stupid three-way horse trading arrangement where customers feel pressured to directly subsidise their waiter, waiters have to stress over wether tips will cover their bills this month or not (and play fuck-fuck games w/ each other by stealing tables etc) and owners really shouldn't care either way, unless the restaurant owners were, say, illegally dipping their own grubby paws into the tip jars (after all, if everyone's prices go up, their relative competitiveness doesn't change), if instead you could just pay waiters their damn wage and save everyone the trouble.
Here’s the thing with tipping: it is a bonus. It is the customer saying “we think you went above just doing your job”. If you cant make a living wage without tips, then that is on your employer, not the customer. If you rely on tips to live, you are living off of charity. If your employer cant afford to give you more money, they are either lying or shouldn’t be in business. If this is the case for an entire industry, then the industry needs to be reevaluated.
"And if you're uncomfortable with a woman having the agency to explain any of this to you, again, stay." Of course they bring some identity BS into it, to shame you even more.
think of the wammen and their 1 dollarino per hour joberinos
what I employ as a tactic is that I just stop acknowledging their existence until they do things that their job requires of them, like taking the payment for tipless check and saying goodbye have a good day.
Years ago it was 10%. Now it’s 20%? Soon it’s gonna be 100%. No thank you. Pay your employees better.
Also, everyone is asking for a tip these days. Absolutely not! That’s your job. You aren’t doing me a favor. Don’t like it? Get another job.
You don't like tipping eat somewhere else or make your own food.
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You don't like not being tipped, work somewhere else and make your own money.
@@BunniMonsterso you're gonna keep giving Applebee's money, but not me? Real smart. Way to stick it to A man instead of THE man.
@@andycrowson1013 why? I’ll eat whatever or wherever I please. If construction workers started asking for tips for doing their job, it would be ridiculous right? I’ve never had to ask residents or commercial companies to tip me for annual testing or fixing their fire life and safety. Never asked for a tip for fixing some EMT pipe that was damaged. Maybe I should. I could make a shit load more then.
@@danielschmaderer my point is if you buy from a corporation that doesn't pay their employees enough money. They'll continue to not pay them enough money. I'm assuming your boss cares more about the customers money coming in the you as an individual. Servers aren't multimillionaires. If a construction company was abusing it's workers and I was against it my solution wouldn't be to attack the employee, but to boycott the employer.
Tipping for delivery drivers and waiters > tipping anyone else is just stupid.
Wait staff can go find another job. When enough wait staff leave, the restaurant will balance out better and be able to charge slightly more to give the 2-5 wait staff members more money per hour.
The customer should never have to compensate for a stingy employer who doesn't pay his staff adequately.
thats pretty much what happens. if you leave a tip at a fast food place, the company effectively pockets the money for themselves. how that works is that in most state you can pay tipped employees less than minimum wage. however if the tipped employee makes less tips than minimum wage, the company has to make up the difference. so unless people tip fast food employees more than their hourly wage the fast food company gets to keep it
If u want restaurants they should.
Well it's that or the food prices go up. They've shown this a ton of times. You'll likely end up pay the same or more. However, I completely agree. Tipping needs to go away and we need to just pay servers A regular livable wage.
Well said i agree 10000%
@@PelicansCourtsideClub Resturants don't need tips to function. The rest of the World works just fine with it as an optional extra that you only pay if you want to.
20% is not a tip.
It's a tax
Yeah, it's a tax on people who were too lazy to make their own meal. Make your own food if you don't like it. Don't complain about dealing with a robot to take/deliver your order to your table if you refuse to pay for service work
15% is also a tax buddy.
@@unlisted9494 Nah, I paid for the food. I don't need to pay a tip.
@@unlisted9494 Their employer is the one who should be paying for service work not the customer are you slow or something? In what other business is the client expected to pay the worker's salary?
@@unlisted9494 The owner should pay his slaves more.
servers arent trying to protect their 20% tips. they want to protect the occasional 80% tip
I literally tried to tip this very friendly server in a Japanese ramen restaurant and he literally straight up REFUSED my tip. Had to jovially FIGHT him to accept my tip and treated him to a ramen in his own restaurant myself for lunch. If I have to FIGHT you to TIP you. Then my god, it feels SO SO much better. Then you fighting me, for not giving a tip. And you are trying to force me too
tips used to be if you felt like someone did an exceptional job helping you out. It was never suppose to be a default aspect of payment. Part of the problem is restaurants say to workers "you will make tips here".
precisely! Im full for tipping, theres absolutely nothing worng with giving someoke a little extra for going a little extra on your behalf, reward kindness with kindness, but if these goombas think its a mandatory tax on my purchase they should take it up with their boss why its not in my pricetag or their wage.
Tipping started during the great depression when restaurants couldn't afford wait staff so they nudged their customers to tip and it never went away. Tipping was never meant to be "if they went above and beyond" its a scam so restaurant owners can make more profit. Either way you'll be paying about the same if they got rid of tipping everything would go up in price since they have to pay waiters more
@@inoffensivename1773 Tipping started in the united states almost 100 yrs before the great depression
@@abprepboy33 maybe tipping for good service, im more so referring to when tipping became expected and relied upon by wait staff g
@@inoffensivename1773 ohhhh.... i feel loike the outright expectation came in the last 10-15 yrs, and completely went off the rails in the last 3-5 yrs. I dont think tipping was like this since the depression. I dont thinkt he 70s had this problem with tipping everywhere. Ironically, service was a lot better in the 50s and 60s than it is now in almost every industry
The "owner" part is hillarous .... How about you start by paying a decent salairy instead of asking people to tips.
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How about the fact a good server makes way more than they would with a "decent" pay rate.
@@jimmanis6717 this. Servers make way more than they would if they got paid like $15 an hour. They would abosultely not want tip culture to go away. Where else can they make the same money for unskilled labor
@@jimmanis6717 how about stop guilt tripping customer to give you money like beggars.
@@FatBunny168if you feel like tipping, then tip, if not, don't. But let someone else dictate how you should spend your money based off of emotions
A waitress tried to make my mom tip a certain amount as if it was mandatory. She was asking her how much of a percentage did she want to leave with her tablet and my mom said you don’t ask people for a tip.
The fact is: I LIKE putting my change in the tip jar, but I DON'T like calculating in my head 15% then putting down ten bucks or said 15% (whichever is more) under a coffee cup and the end of a meal because of social pressure.
Ever see the video of the door dash lady that left a note in the customer's food bag that said, "you are lucky I didn't do anything to your food. Consider tipping next time." but that was because the lady didn't tip when ordering, but she tried to tip her at the front door. Then the delivery lady was embarrassed as hell and told her to ignore the note in the bag and forget the tip.
I would not eat that food after reading the note. Itd go in the bin and id be getting my money back.
omg thats crazy entitlement. i'm in uk so tip isnt the standard here but if i tip delivery drivers its always done AFTER i receive the food. how and why would you ever tip while ordering when you dont even know what level of service you're going to receive at that point?!
Lol dude the amount of times an Uber Eats order gas gone off the rails... Tipping before you get it is crazy.
I'd tell them to keep the tip because it'll be the last one they ever get and take that vaguely threatening note to their supervisor
@@er_clmate some people copied off of this story with America here in the U.K. and started saying because of the cost of living people should tip .. as usual people copying off of Americas problems and applying it to our country. It got shut down quickly and one girl even got sacked for saying to a customer they should tip her 😅
There needs to be a no tipping section at restaurants. We don’t need someone to grind pepper into our food. I’ll do it myself and save 20% of the bill.
Most have one, it's called takeout
@@kawkasauroustakeout delivery drivers also expect tips
@@mencibenci order and pickup, no tip required.
@@kawkasaurouspeople still want the setting.
Food, setting, and no dishes. That’s what (most) people want.
People dont mind getting up and walking to a counter to get the food. So yes, there should be self service stations
@@0xstoney Having servers is part of the setting. And how is it that you know what most people want? If all restaurants suddenly started doing self service then what if it turned out to be like pumping gas or the self-checkout lines in grocery stores where there is 16 self service lines and one actual service line? I would rather pay tips to the waiter for bringing my old grandpa who doesn't want to walk across the restaurant than turn into the waiter for him. If you don't like it, don't go to a sit down restaurant, that's part of the deal, it's part of the setting.
The real stupid part is asking for tips where there isn't full service like at a fast food place. But even if all these restaurants had self service stations like you said, they'd still all probably ask for tips anyway.
In my country Sweden we generally never tip unless the meal is more expensive than 100 usd. Some restaurants have integrated tipping in the checkout but it is considered like it's begging.
The issue isn’t service workers wanting tips, it’s the business owners that get away with paying low wages
My favorite thing is when I go eat alone at a restaurant, and my waitress barely comes to my table or checks on if I need a refill etc in favor of the massive table with 8 people because they know they are likely to get a big tip there. Then they get silently angry that I don't give them a tip when the only thing they did was take my order and drop the food off never to be seen again. What am I tipping for? lol.
This. I worked at a restaurant for over a decade as a line-worker and we were never tipped, but the entitled waiters were always given good tips for literally doing nothing. We made the food, they didn't, but acted as if they were God and earned the money. It's a joke, the whole industry.
100% this. I have even had this happen when I was there with my family for a total of five people sitting and eating (easily a $90+ tab these days). Even my girl would give me a mean look when I suggest giving no tip at all (she used to work as a server a long time ago) and I have to remind her that all the server did was give us drinks, set our food down, and then disappear for the entire 30+ minutes we were there, and we were only able to get refills by flagging down a different server who then took 10+ minutes to bring us drinks. I would rather tip the cooks for the good food if anything.
YEP100%............. like people that say oh you should tip them because they brought food what ever. Fuck that if it was up to me I would get my own fucking drink and food because I can do it faster any way andn ot have to sit and wait around etc.
@@DarkcelForever yeah the waiters dont get minimum wage like you do. They get paid "tipped worker" wage which is around 2.15 an hour and relys on tips to survive. you get payed to do a simple job and never talk to anyone. they get payed to deal with customers.
@@Tribossss Cooking food isn't a "simple job", lol. Waiters for the most part work part-time and have terrible attitudes, they don't deserve anything more than that 2.15 an hour as far as I'm concerned. Oh no, it's so hard to pick up the food I made for their table in which they literally just set it down and walk away from said customers. Cry me a river.
If you meet a person defending tipping, ask them why they don't tip in hospitals. Healthworkers deserve more tips than a person who just takes your orders. If not tipping is a punishment, healthworkers are punished so much.
Health workers get paid $3 -$5-$10 per hour? People who are servers and cashiers do. Is there "eating in restaurant" insurance PLUS a charge for each plate ,paper napkin and amount of electricity you used like a hospital would?
@@moxiemaxie3543why don’t you tip your amazon delivery driver or postman but tip the doordash guy? they’re literally doing the same thing.
I’ll tell you why: the service industry bamboozled you into thinking those giving you food or drinks need to be given extra money. time to wake up, you’re welcome.
@@mencibencibecause those delivery drivers you just mentioned make AT LEAST minimum wage!! Waiters, however, don’t and rely on tips
@@SkyscannerGuyJr. You do know all waiters by law can ask for minimum wage if tips dont make up to minimum wage.
No one legally makes under minimum wage. Restaurants are REQUIRED to pay the difference if tips don't, however, if tips make up the difference (or more) the business doesn't have to pay additional. I hope that clarifies how waitstaff is paid. Also, in some states, they make minimum wage + tips. @moxiemaxie3543
If I go to a sit-down restaurant, it's one thing. If they are nice, check on me every so often, then I tip. No problem. If I go somewhere to pick up an order, no, I'm not tipping. This required tipping everywhere is out of hand. Doing your job has a wage. And I have zero problem saying no.
as a Spanish, this is my view. In Spain we changed the amount of the service. That amount has the salary of the worker, the cookers, the place, etc. And then and only then at the end you can sometimes leave a few coins between the range of 0.5€ to 2.5€ euros depending on the quality of the service. But only if the service was higher than expected. The waiter, was friendly, he was checking often your table, they did small talk, etc, all those things add up.
And nobody get angry if you do not leave a tip, in fact you leave the tip when you are leaving the restaurant, you leave the coins on the table.
To me the tipping culture specially in the recent years in United States is just crazy.
"if u don't tip 20% tips stay home"
ok, i stay home
"man why is my business lacking clients? what i'm doing wrong?"
eating popcorn from home
i will tip when i think the work was worth it, when i think i received more for the price and "i can push ur earnings a bit and not paying what would be 100% price in other place"
i'm not tipping because you think u're entitled to, nope sorry, idc what u think is required, expected, even tradition or socially right
If there was an option to tip the cook instead of the waiter I'd be doing that most of the time.
@MrPsykopeta prob had bad food to begin with? Sorry bad joke. Tbh owners and mang might have to step up and work if servers jobs go away though and in my experience in restaurants that is never good lol
It's not the businesses' fault, it's the system's. The reason they have exceptions for severs in minimum wage laws is because restaurants already operate on razor thin margins, so if they had to pay them minimum wage they would have to be packed every night and charge 15% more for their food just to be able to operate
@padarousou how do we change the system? Better fish mongers and local farm bought foods? Prob save a ton of money rather than using Sisco or similar. Employee owned/shared contributions and returns? Most of my comments are about uber drivers so I havnt really sat and thought about servers and restuarant owners. Oh they can brew own beer and make own wine and cheese etc. Butcher own meats. They're is prob a lot struggling owners can do but involves working 💪. For system wise ??? Is it taxes gas prices insurance prices or what that is effecting that system? I really don't know.
It’s not up to the customer to pay the worker a livable wage, it is the responsibility of the business, if the business can’t afford to pay its workers, then it doesn’t not deserve to remain open.
It’s not when federal wage laws says they can pay them only $3 an hour if there is expected to be tips.
@@blackyvertigo Ergo that business should lose its workers and go out of business. Problem solved.
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They need to change the federal wave laws to like what Japan has.
@@blackyvertigo you job pay only 3$? find other job simple, let the owner get fked wihout workers
@mateussoares3569 fine and dandy until you realize you're back to cooking 3 meals a day for you or your family while trying to hold down 2 full time jobs to afford rent and food, and can't go out to eat once in a while because there's no service. It's not the owners fault the fed has been setting the wages across the country for decades
Empty glass no tip
Bad attitude no tip
Any issue with my order no tip
If I feel you are personally invested in me enjoying my meal I'll tip well.
I also only tip for sitdown service.
I'm all for taking power away from the owners and having them pay the workers properly and raise their prices on food. But they won't do that because it take power away from them and makes them accountable instead of consumers.
I get asked to tip my damn tax lady... they've crossed the line
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Tax on top of tax is crazy
@@requiem522 tax your check. Tax more when you spend. Tax you again when you file taxes.
It’s crazy
In France, the tip is called a "pour boire" which means "to drink". So it litteraly means "I give you few euros (between 1 and 5 usually) so you can get yourself a treat, like a cup of cafee or something" when we receive good service. And I think it's a fair way to do the tipping.
In Germany it's called "Trinkgeld" (drinking money). It's about the same reasons like yours. 😁
All of my disagreement with this is people's attitudes to take it out on eachother and not the corporations. Sad clown world mentality. I disagree w asmond take on this (for uber drivers) we need to make them pay liveable wages. Their business model is trash.
@@S.andalphon You are right. But we Europeans can't change a thing. It's a US-Problem.
@@solidsteel3634 in Europe do you have uber? Do they actually pay drivers there and not here? Honest question. That would be very messed up on ubers end.
@S.andalphon yea they got uber there and it's still generally the same percentage prompt
As a barista at Starbucks, if anyone asks me about tips, or if I see any coworkers venting about tips, I always remind them "While tips are appreciated, they are NOT expected, and never will be." I always tell people don't be afraid to not tip, especially as we pass that payment device over to you asking for one. Don't be afraid to hit that 'No Thanks' button. I get paid no matter what and any tips I get are a bonus. I don't deserve tips anymore than anyone else, so I'm not going to complain if no one tips me.
To be completely honest, I'd much rather have a 100% stress-free day with a thousand customers that never tip rather than a thousand rude customers and get a solid 20% every day. Hell, I wouldn't care if it were 100%. If I hate my job, then I hate my job. No amount of extra money is going to make me hate it less.
Most countries do not have mandatory tipping culture. All the acclaimed "consequences" of not tipping does not exist in most other countries, which goes to show how entitled the culture of those service jobs in the US is.
I rather have the price be increased by 20% than paying 20% tips. What's the difference? Price transparency.
I always think that tipping is kind of a scam, it shift the responsibility of the business owner to provide good service at the expense of their worker and customer.
its not a common practice in most country in the world and add extra complexity to otherwise a simple process.
good service is not complementary, its mandatory.
well said.
we all instinctively understand but no one will say it tipping is literally a remnant of slavery/jim crow if no one has to pay you unless you fall over yourself putting on a show of subservience and you can easily get thrown in prison for being poor and black where the 13th amendment allows prison slavery well.. we all get it now right?
@@clachdhearg2109 That didn't nearly make as much sense as you think it did when you wrote it out.
In supermarkets in the US, do they still show you the cost of products without tax included in the price? I think that's another big scam only US citizens are still victim of.
@@EternalKhann absolutely but its not just supermarkets, its literally everything, and the reason it is that way is because long ago there wasn't a sales tax, and then there was a sales tax and businesses said lol make the customer pay it instead, which is technically illegal but law enforcement/justice system/military are so corrupt nothing is done about it.
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Here is my take on the subject.
As a concept, tipping was supposed to be a reward for service to someone who does a good job taking care of you... attending your table and doing whatever is required.
What happened in the US is a lot of places running businesses like this realized workers were in many cases making very good money just on the tips, decided to pay less wages as people would work just for the chance to get tipped. This allowed the business owners to make more money. It should be noted this lead to a situation where tipping became expected as a lot of these people could only make a living wage off of being tipped. It also created a situation where people running bars and restaurants could get very rich, by effectively having their patrons pay most of their staff. In pretty much all countries except the US people who own restaurants and bars don't get rich, they might have a successful business owned by the same people that has been there longer than the US has existed, and no one became wealthy off of it. The exceptions to that like where they might have grandmaster chefs serving royalty are those places are basically legendary for that reason. In the US however you can have people running a bar, and then retire with a million or so in the bank, having put two kids through college. It's not uncommon, and a big part of that is not paying living wages like is expected elsewhere. A lot of people from other countries are shocked when they come here and find tipping is almost mandatory.
To be fair, I agree with the sentiment that tipping should be for exceptional service only, but people in this profession do have a point that we have created a system where if you don't tip them they are basically not getting paid for working since their employer isn't paying them crap. Short of changing this entire system it's not an easily resolved problem... and also realize one of the reason why places like this multiply across the country so quickly is because it's one of the easiest ways to make money due to things like this.
Refusing to tip is not likely to actually do much but get backlash from service workers, at least in positions where they serve you.
What is grinding my gears is people that don't serve you and just check you out and push food over a counter tending to ask for tips. That's not a position where tips are expected, even here. It gets worse when I see people just working as a cashier in some stores also asking for tips. I do realize the economy is rough, but it is for everyone, and it occurs to me that if you did tip these people it will just make businesses assume they should be paid entirely by tips like happened with wait staff.
I will also say that the mandatory 20% is bullshit, given that a tip should be based on how good the service is. I think a lot of the current trends, making this unusually obnoxious, is that you have a lot of unattractive, fringe activists working these kinds of jobs and being obnoxious, and then getting upset when they aren't tipped. Looking back at a lot of internet shame things about not tipping, oftentimes there is an angle like that on it. Basically this is one way for mainstream society to show it's disapproval and they do not like that, hence the push to make it mandatory. See if you have some flaming 300 point waiter with orange hair talking about his boyfriend as he serves the table, some people might not mind, other people are going to though, and if the service annoys them I think this is a good way of social Darwinism doing it's job. It's also why the left wants to crack down on such behavior.
I will also say that being wait staff of that sort used to actually be a decent job and not entirely looked down on, as it was hard work, but the people who could support themselves doing it, typically had something going on. They had to be likable, charismatic, and/or attractive to the vast majority of people, and especially the regulars. Having some Zoomer with a give a crap attitude who is upset because they can't support themselves being a gender studies major with a sideline in drawing pornographic Pokemon art, who cries about being forced to do this while making it clear they don't care, scream about not getting 20% from each table is kind of funny because it's exactly what should be happening to them. People aren't going to reward you for that, they are the paying customers, who are there on their time, if your infringing on their enjoyment... even by just being yourself, you don't deserve some kind of reward. There is a reason why the fringe elements mostly had to work back of the house at large businesses. For example even in the late 90s, if you were some kind of flaming homosexual with tatts and colored hair, there were two things you'd wind up doing in the casino. One was that if you were good looking and charismatic and had a great attitude you could wind up in a bar or nightclub if you were willing to do the schedule for it, but only if there weren't too many people there being that open. Some of those managers were "Gay Tony" types (the schtick from GTA is kind of a stereotype ) and had nothing against that, but knew how to balance their business and make it work. The other option would be to be in the deep back as a dish washer, doing EVS with the loading dock as your section, and that kind of stuff. We had one "Diesel Dyke" type who started around the time I did and her job was mostly just to run around doing support clean up for the heavy cleaning crews that would come in after parties and stuff and generally wouldn't be seen by the public. I knew her when I went into EVS (transferred there quickly from being a Dish Washer) and she got booted about six months before I left.... for no particularly good reason and with my position as security who was oftentimes oversight for other security, I know she wasn't being accused of anything like theft. Had she been more personable and good looking she would have been able to do more though, as bigoted as that was, as you do get a lot of ladies with money who really appreciate the feminine form if you catch my meaning.
Counterpoint on the "you are afraid of disapproval": actually, I am afraid of the person behind the counter seeing I tipped zero, and then spitting in my food. Forcing a tip before your food is prepared is hostage taking because they could do whatever they want in prepping it, and it's easier to hit the 10% button than to risk getting myself and my family sick when I just wanted a coffee. I hate it to death but I cant always risk it.
I realized after getting out of the service industry that working for tips is just gambling your wages. I have friends who have worked serving jobs since they were 18 (late 20s now) because of how good the money is, but they're also the first to rant and shame people who dont tip.
Yup, and if you're halfway decent looking and sociable, you can make a killing. It literally becomes a trade for some people.
yeah its a grift. The more they shame, the less people will go out. Especially now with the COL being out of control, most people just say F** it to dining out.
I think that's an important part of why nothing changes. Because the workers make more now then if they would get paid minimum wage by their boss...
@@cyanl.2245 and they should be getting minimum wage. If you complain about a fry cook flipping burgers at $15/hr then why aren’t you complaining about the server going from point a to point b making $300 in tips for 4hours a night.
@@matthewharrington420 ok?
I knew the system was screwed when the tip was based on the price of your meal. How could "percentages" ever come into play? How could the tip be more for steak than for a burger and fries? That's the dumbest thing ever. Tips are based on the quality of the service you receive...not the price of what you order.
and the crazy part is, I know what I want
I can write it down and take it to the counter to order. Or if they using a tablet I can press buttons on a screen too. In fact I may have programmed that very ordering system thats being used
There are some restaurants i my city that have a qr code to a menu website that you order through, and the servers are just there to deliver food and clean tables, barely any service at all.
Ur not expected to tip full 20% on overpriced items, or alcohol. U still tip $1 on a $12 stadium beer.
Not to mention they expect the tip to be based on the total with tax.
People tipping the people not even making their food 5 year old or younger could bring you your food
60% of restaurants fail within the first year. 80% of restaurants fail within the first 5 years.
Restaurants can't afford to complain about their costumers, there are so many other places where consumers can go.
The problem is that it is legal to pay employees less than minimum wage if they make tips. If minimum wage was actually the MINIMUM amount you were allowed to pay in wages, tipping would be more of a bonus instead of required. Not to mention, at least in PA, the minimum wage is 7.25. So you can pay an unlivable wage as a minimum. Yet you can pay 2.83 per hour if they make tips. This is a federal labor law issue. The entire system is to make customers pay your employees. More profit for the already rich business owners. It's unacceptable, but money talks. Unless the labor laws change, businesses will take full advantage of anything to make a buck.
I love that instead of paying her employees more, the restaurant owner chooses to berate the customers to subsidize her payroll. That will do wonders for her business lol.
There better be a hawk Tua included in a 20% tip!!
The funniest part is that they managed to convince their staff that it's the employees fault that they're underpaid! ;D
Went to a concert not too long ago. Got a couple bottles of water (nothing special), each costing something like $15, so that right there was already a robbery. On top of that, they asked for a tip. Tip for them walking over to the fridge and grabbing a couple of waters. Yeah.... things got out of control.
at least was not 100 bucks for 1 , like i see in some concerts
Fucking hell...
I went to a concert last week, in the netherlands.
I walk up to the bar and ask for water, they give me a cup of water free of charge because they dont want people stinging on water and getting dehydrated.
I hope this shit gets better everywhere
@@Demoniodgthe west literally invents problems that have never even existed in 3rd world countries
@@zeldaking13 Why would it get better when the that person will fight tooth and nail to be able to sell water for $15?
I love how you're "selfish" for not tipping >20%, but not the restaurant owner for paying 2 bucks an hour.
If I have to tip, I would tip my delivery driver instead of any waiter/waitress at a restaurant any time. Driving a couple of miles, getting the food and delivering it to my home in a reasonable amount of time is a fair amount of extra work, getting the food from the kitchen to my table in the same establishment is not.
In France, staff has an actual paycheck and full benefits. Tipping is extra, courtesy of an eventual happy customer. There is 0 pressure to tip in any way.
As a delivery driver I can tell you I’ve informed people who ask me :how much is the tip;that zero is required. I tell them you tip if you want too and how much you want too. We accept low pay and wear and tear on our cars for the tip but you also accept that some may not tip.if any restaurant or service provider tells 20% or 30% mandatory tip I would flat out not pay it either.that’s rude to demand a tip. It also revokes its qualification as a tip and is now a fee.
So because you're struggling to make a living, tipping is right?
@@TwintailsVtuber they did not say anything of the sort, they just explained that as a delivery driver they do NOT except to be tipped but if they can and want to that would be nice and if company makes it mandatory it is not tip but a fee.
I personally think tipping should NEVER be asked or mentioned but if a person wishes to leave a tip they are welcome to.
@@clawso55 "they"?? Who are you calling in plural? Its either a dude or a girl, going with "he" will be most likely correct here and even if its a girl, she wont mind since they are used to most people here being dudes lol So stop that plural calling which makes no grammatical sense here
@@-Timur1214 i dont care to check if they are a girl or a boy so i just call them "they", sorry if that is not correct as english is not my first language
@@-Timur1214 "they" has always been used to describe more than one person, or not wanting to say guy or girl because they is faster , it has nothing to do with gender pronouns, jesus.
Why are we even paying a %? You buy a dish with truffles and suddenly the staff deserve more money? Lol...
You ask for 30 glasses of water and suddenly they deserve nothing ;D
The restaurants don’t even bug me that much. It’s the stupid tipping screen on the little iPad at checkout before I’ve gotten any service or food. Why am I tipping you just for taking my order? Tipping was ostensibly supposed to be reward based on service, now you just give them money for what? And it’s not even at places that make sense, why am I tipping a sandwich shop with no waiters or anything? I went and told a cashier behind the counter my order, some 17 year old threw some cold cuts on a sub roll and threw it in a toaster for 40 seconds, it was already like $20 just for that, now right in front of the person I have to decline to tip you another $4+ on top of that or get my food spat in?
Serving my table? Tip
Giving me food you’re paid to provide? No tip.
Agreed fast food or self serve type asking for tips w min wage or hrly wage is wrong. Waitresses waiters drivers people who do work inside my house or car I tip. Shit even as a driver myself when I get a good tip I go back to the restiarant and split it with the waitress. I also try feeding homeless people w my 2 day a wk bs freaking disability shit. Fuck it I will stream lol grift for tips there when i can't drive or walk. Since my injury pretty much all I have done is drive. I tried other jobs but they keep laying me off for "not enough work" or other bs when i pretty much know its my medical liabilities. And for yrs I have my Dr's saying get disability but they just deny me for a long time. I did try appealing and they sat me infront of a gov Dr for 2 whole min and got denied again. I don't want handouts though anyway I'd rather find something I can do so I don't feel like my life is completely worthless.
also if you ask for tip I never tip, I only tip if I decide to do it on my own not when I'm asked.