This Glue Sucks! BEST Glue Bottle PLUS it Finally Happened!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Liquid poly glue is crap in general, but especially if you let it sit for two years unused. Never again!
If you are just doing the woodworking as a hobby, there's no point in buying those big gallon bottles of glue to thicken up and get moldy. Buy the small one instead - it'll last weeks for most hobbyists and by then the bottle is worn out, the nozzle is plugged or you've lost the cap. Embrace disposability!
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Liquid poly glue is crap in general, but especially if you let it sit for two years unused. Never again!
If you are just doing the woodworking as a hobby, there's no point in buying those big gallon bottles of glue to thicken up and get moldy. Buy the small one instead - it'll last weeks for most hobbyists and by then the bottle is worn out, the nozzle is plugged or you've lost the cap. Embrace disposability!
This may be BS but I was told that PVA wood glue should not be stored anywhere it can freeze as this will damage it and weaken joints.
So, the Titebond poly glues has become my go-to glue, mostly because the foaming makes cleaning up the squeeze-out really easy. The fact that it isn't water base seems advantageous as well; no need to worry about the glue making pieces swell when fitting them together. I certainly agree that the shelf life is shorter than a PVA or aliphatic resin glue, but I've been able to go through most of a twelve-ounce bottle in a year. I've never had trouble with bond strength. Is there something I'm missing?
I'll add that I don't like it for biscuited joints, because the swelling from a normal wood glue can actually be helpful.
Embrace disposability! I use this same principle to avoid buying 10-litre bottles of mayonnaise at Costco.
My favorite glue bottle is still the mustard bottle that I saw you using about maybe 3 years ago. I now pour my gallon wood glue into mustard bottles and use it from there. Seems I get another mustard bottle just about when the old one's cap is breaking off and getting too crudded up. I'll always remember you John as the mustard bottle woodworking guy. That's how I describe you when talking to my brothers. Then they say, "Oh, yeah I know that guy. He's that really clever woodworking guy who uses construction adhesive."
Gallon bottle and a GLUBOT here.
Those little tiny bottles are good too, I've seen people using them and a 23 gauge nailer for crown molding, and Rob Cosman prefers them because they fit in his apron pocket.
Hi John it looks like the glue you left alone for 2 years is a polyurethane glue. It would be similar to the construction adhesive you like so much. I use such glues extensively if I need to glue something like out door furniture that would get into contact with moisture. It is quite good, but have a shelf life less than 24 months. All the best for 2020, I enjoy your videos
I have had a gallon of Titebond 3, I got 7 years ago. The glue still works good and has never dried up. I have about 1/3rd left. Maybe I’m lucky but I definitely got my money out of it.
Same here. Never goes bad. But, whatever you say, you are wrong on this channel.
I have been using Titebond 3 for many years and never have had a problem with it.Never did like the gorilla glue.
You should build a shed for your outside lumber rack. I did. It is great!
Change the wood cabinet door to plexi so you can see in there and it keeps the dust out?
I am glad you did not scrap the scrap bin yet.
I have a 10 year old 500ml gorilla glue. Just started using after many years and peeled the old glue off the spout and off it went and stillglues well
for the closed lumber wrack have you thought of doing an acrylic door? i know it would be expensive but would help with the visibility problem for the most part. trying to be good suggestion # 2 lol
I had exactly the same problem with the same glue here in the UK. Actually used a bit out of one bottle then had to throw it away. Tip - screw lid in tight and keep inverted, then trapped air etc. gets hardened at the bottom/ Same applies to Poly varnish.
Love your vids, been watching many years. Hey... PRO TIP...Store Gorilla Glue in a zip lock bag with those little drier packets from new products. Also dont store in extreme temps like garage/workshop. I live in Phoenix Arizona...garages can get 160 degrees. NOTHING liquid survives. All paints, glues, caulking, automotive chems go bad. Im sure the same is true for cold climates For me, snow is for visiting, not living in. BTW open time for Titebond II in Phx. summer....10 seconds. I like your idea of building glue (contractor type).
My day job is production trim work and it still takes months to use up a gallon of glue. Would take forever if only for personal projects and hobbies. Little bottles FTW
I keep all the little dispenser bottles and when they're all empty, i buy a gallon and fill them all. Never had one dry up. You have to keep the bottles full (ie no air in it) and it will last for years.
I use titebond III ultimate wood glue bought a 16 oz bottle about 3 years ago to finish a project in my garage it has sat in the new mexico heat until last week when i grabbed it off the shelf for a project and the glue is perfect. I only use the titebond products for the last almost 18 years and have never had an issue. I had one issue once after about an hour of the glue setting i noticed i was misaligned on a work bench i was building and i ended up having to use a sledge hammer to break the 2 pieces of apart that is how strong this glue had held the 4x4 leg to a 8' 2x8 it was crazy totally my fault but as for the strength that is the only glue i will ever use after that experience. BUT i have had similar experience with gorilla glue once opened it seems to have a short life if not used and left sitting but never use that ever that stuff anymore.
That wasn't the glue cracking at 1:10 it was your old arthritic fingers.
I just extended my middle one and didn't hear a peep :)
@@IBuildItScrapBin slammm
How do you store the construction adhesive tube between uses to make it last?
I decided to build a cabinet for the garage and figured that it would be too heavy to move fully assembled so I'm going to finish it in the garage. It's currently around freezing outside and only slightly warmer in the garage so after watching this channel for years I'm finally going to try it.
I like to work on one thing at a time too. I always loose track of where I left off when I get back to something. That being said, I have have multiple projects on the go all this summer it seems, and the mess form one joins the mess from the other and it stacks up fast.
still spring is my guess.
What if the doors for the lumber rack were clear or at least had windows? That way the wood doesn't gather dust but you can still see what is in there. And because it doesn't blend in to the background, it comes to mind more often.
I've done the math and where I buy glue the break even point is 1/4 gallon of glue used per year. If i used 1/4 of a gallon per year I'll use at least 1/2 a gallon before it goes bad putting the price per ml of glue used identical. I almost ALWAYS use more than 1/4 gallon per year so it makes sense for me to buy a gallon jug and use ketchup bottlers for dispensers. (this is comparing the 500ml bottles to the gallon bottles the smaller the bottle the higher the cost per ml so using the 150ml bottles like you suggest it's closer to 1/8 gallon used per year).
Keep in mind John you do use a lot of PU construction adhesive, not everyone does that. I have no comment on good bad or otherwise if it sticks and is stronger than the wood IDGAF what the adhesive is. Don't hate me because I like math and I'm contrary to your opinion I'm just offering it for you no malice intended. This is also for me and where I buy glue that may not be the same for everyone. I also DGAF if i throw away a half gallon as long as i get my money's worth out of it. In all honesty 50% of glue gets wasted to squeeze out anyway which is a necessary evil...
My opinion is strictly based on convenience and ensuring that the glue I'm using is at maximum strength. Economy wasn't a factor, since glue probably works out to be the least expensive supply for woodworking. I spend much more on screws than glue and massively more on wood and sheet stock.
@@IBuildItScrapBin Ahh I must have misinterpreted your video then my apologies.
Good video. Love watching you build project. How about some furniture? You could sell the plans and auction the piece you made.
I've lost a few bottles of glue, mostly due to me leaving them out to freeze. Think I've got that solved now, lol.
Kip does Stuff that was my only question, if it gets freezing in there.
I have three Glue Bricks on my shelf. I bought it to repair dining room chair rungs as needed. There are six chairs and they fail in different areas..at different times. So I purchase a bottle of glue to fix one or two rungs - use a very small amount and put it on the shelf. 6 months later another rung fails and the glue has turned rock hard in the bottle. So, I paid over $5 per bottle to get maybe 15 drops at most and then it hardens IN the sealed bottle. No smaller bottles are available in that type. Now, I have three "bricks" and need to fix another rung...Grrrr. I know your pain.
You wouldn't want to actually SHOW us this new magnificent round gizmo and maybe demonstrate it, eh?
Got excited and dropped his knob..
Lol
I've used that glue, worked very well. Most guys will suck if left alone for 2 years. All on you not the material.
you know if your worried about a product drying out , store it upside down so air cannot get in or out,then that will extend the shelf life
I separate glue from those gallon jugs into separate Ziploc quart size bags, squeeze out the air, and store each of those in Ziploc containers. Oh, and the pour into a smaller squeeze bottle or mustard bottle as needed.
Sounds like work
Once you make the keeper round, you can round the corners of the sled to ease the orientation of the guide.
The new one will be longer and not need to go around onto the end.
Thanks for the video.
5:49 That's what she said.
Only reason I buy the big bottle is I add the glue to concrete as a fortafier to add strength to the mix for step or floor repair.... and to latex paint to make a heavy duty primer..... Makes everything stick better...
Crunchy peanut butter = :D
Crunchy glue bottle = D:
If you want to thin your glue, use distilled water instead of faucet water and you won't have mold.
Just leaving it open to the air can make it get moldy. As for distilled, it's not the minerals that cause it to turn, so just boiling the tap water and letting it cool would work.
Mold spores are all around us, especially when working with wood.
I go through a lot of Titebond III making cutting boards. So I usually get the gallon jugs. But yeah, small simple bottles are the way to go. Tried the Glu-bot for a while and it was more trouble than it was worth.
you can just ram a drinking straw in the nozzel of a glue bottle to save £20 on a glu bot. or just get a bleach bottle with a swan neck.
What didn't you like about the glu-bot out of curiosity? I picked up two a couple months ago and have run about a gallon of glue through them so far and all's been well. They'd be perfect if i didn't keep forgetting to put the caps back on lol.
5:24 woohoo he likes my Idea 🤗
👏 👍
Hey! You used my idea to put the band saw blades in the window! (Kind of)
Try ROO Glue. It's pretty awesome.
FARGO!! Great movie!!
I buy glue by the gallon and am on my third gallon in about 5 years. That would be a lot of small bottles. Never had a problem, of course I do not leave in my garage to freeze thaw over the winter. Probably a another dumb idea, but hey.
I use a fair amount of glue and buy by the gallon. I use about a gallon a year, Never had a problem either.
I have a gallon of Tite-Bond 2 that has separated after only 6 months. It looks like really bad curdled milk. No more gallons for me.
150 ml from the wood glue - about 5 oz
It’s pretty hard to outsmart John 🤠👍🔨
Right on about the glue bottles. Particularly the size. I've been using CA to glue trim joints. I don't do enough to have a bottle of any size. Especially since it's so damn expensive. Harbor Freight sells a multi pack of tubes that are no bigger than my little finger. And it's surprisingly inexpensive (per ounce). Works for me.
👍!!! that's all that needs saying!
has a shelf life place in a fridge
Looking forward to a new shoveling "art" vid. The last, if I remember was a herringbone epic.
Quite a generalisation about glue. I've had unopened bottles of Titebond poly for years that are still OK. I know the shelf life is greatly reduced once opened and exposed to air, so I buy a size appropriate to my current needs. There is no glue that's ideal for all circumstances e.g. oily wood like rosewood and teak, or for laminating or for gluing plywood to metal etc..
Nothing general about it - I said the two bottles I have hardened. You can't be much more specific than that.
One comment is valuable? Thanks kind of rough for the rest of us! 😁
There are several videos testing and comparing different glue strengths and gorilla glue had the lowest bonding strength.
CA glue gets thick and becomes useless very quickly. Storing it in the fridge extends it's shelf life.
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That’s 5 Fluid ounces 😉
150ml = approximately 5 ounces (US)
This has to be a trick, surely construction adhesive conquers all in its path.
You wouldn't want to actually SHOW us the PL product that you like so much, eh?
That glue glued itself.
I ran into that with some instant quick glue. Got home & tried to open, it was set up, I don`t buy that brand
Tightbond is just that way and I am surprised they are still around with that product.
150ml = 5 US fl oz or 5.3 imperial ones.
Love all your video’s, even some ranting, and the personal accomplishment of building your table saw.....you talked about it a long time and finally did it. Personally I’d question how many would take on such a feat so rather than spending all the time involved to put the plans together, I’d vote to see your genius applied elsewhere.....sharing it in your video’s on whatever you decide.
I know I don’t have a vote but just saying...
More video’s either building something or the sharing of your opinions / knowledge instead.
I have had the same problem never opened and it went hard in 6 months (waste of money)
I think I've seen all of John's videos. But can someone point me to the origin of focus?
I think it was to get his camera's auto focus set to the correct distance
Short shelf life? "Plastic Wood" seems to have a short shelf life.
A splash of acetone and a vigorous stirring brings Plastic Wood back to life.
Hobbyist here. Maybe I build one or two projects a month. I go through a ton of glue. Why? Because there is no better product for joining pieces of wood together. Wood glue joints are stronger than the wood itself.
A ton? Really? Maybe you are using too much...
Seriously - if you are using a gallon of glue per month, than buy a gallon jug. If you only use a gallon every 5 years, it makes more sense to buy it in smaller containers. Make sense?
@@IBuildItScrapBin of course. Yes I use a ton, and I think I have told other people not to exaggerated a million times. A gallon in a year or two for a hobbyist is pretty normal I think. Especially if you build table tops, cutting boards, drawers, etc.
I'm confused. Why on earth are you using glue? The best way to join two pieces of metal is by welding them together.
Try a glubot, you won't regret it
According to SocialBlade, your channels have about 200 million views in total. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell how many comments there are (or at least not to me), but averaging some of your videos (some old, some new, some red channel, some blue) I get around 800 views per comment (there's a huge variance between videos though, with some videos having one comment for 100 views and others having one comment per 2500 views). Guesstimating from that, you might have around a quarter million visible comments on your channels combined. Not quite a million, but within an order of magnitude :)
Meh, get a gluebot and dont leave it where it shouldnt be.
Just remove the door from the lumber rack.
2:43 , the inner Chewbacca
100TH!
Titebond 111
I just refill dollar store ketchup bottles from a gallon bottle, or wash out dish washing detergent bottles with the click top again it's cheap they work great and stops it going in the landfill. Lots of options available to reuse or repurpose containers.