Thanks for featuring my flowchart! I always take is as a challenge to make complicated things accessible to newer players. The stuff you put out on this channel is great at helping many (including myself) get better at 40k!
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 thanks! still figuring out my faction's playstyle, it should be somewhere in the middle ground but more to the aggressive side
Orks deploying on the line feels good. Trukks and boss on the line, koptas and squighogs behind them. Turn 1 they nuke my trukks (dont care), turn 2 I charge they're entire army, turn 3 table the gitz
Me and my friend were playing a 2k on a premade map that didn't have a lot of cover. He was 1k sons i was BA. I got to go first and proceeded to be tabled all but 2 units by round 2.
Yeah you were not playing 40k though. You were playing with 40k rules and some other games terrain. The context of 10th edition 40k requires the layouts and terrain styles recommended
Amazing video, one thing I would love to see is a guide on movement. I hear that orkz win in the movement phase but I can’t seem to understand how. Thank you for the amazing videos!
Haha cheers man, It will be coming, but alas i am not on GW's radar yet for being given the codex early (share muwahahaha) But once its out for a bit ill definitly be doing a rundown on it!
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Hell yeah! I'm really gonna get the experience next match-up, opponent runs Space wolves and I'm expecting advance and charge, with lots of cav and dreads and wulfen
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 I'm going to my first tournament next month so I'm trying to wrap my head around smart gameplay that isnt just centered around killing the opponent. I'm bringing necrons and, aside from a few units, can't really do that anyway.
One thing that had a big impact on my deployment is considering how I will score certain secondaries(Investigate/AoD) T1. I think you mentioned it in another video how the Eversor helps the army in this manner
I have real issues with my deployment when im against my guard friend. He runs a rogal dorn 3 leman russ, one of which is a tank commander a couple of scout sentinels and some infantry. I play orks and just get tabled by turn 2 in every game.
Yeah this is a classic matchup that is super frustrating. I would say if you are running orks, you MUST be mechanized (mounted in trukks) check out the "aggressive" style deployment i demonstrated, have yourself in a position where he cant kill the contents of the trukks, and if he does its because he chooses to not touch the real threats.... moz, and the squighogs. Its also important to understand that this particular matchup tends to be very, Who went first. WHich can also be frustrating
Take out the scout sentinels as quick as you can, he's using them to improve his BS on his tanks without the need for orders. You need forward deployed Kommandos to stop them using their scout movement and they can't be overwatched so be aggressive with them. Ram everything with you trukks, tank shock is 1 CP and with your free wrecking ball you have 10 D6 to deal upto 6 mortal wounds.
Hey man I’m a guard player who comes up against Orks a lot, I also run 4 Russ + Dorn so this is pretty close to what you’re coming up against. Your best bet is trukks for sure. If he gets first turn and scout moves too aggressively pop waaagh right away and use his units to leapfrog. If you get first turn abuse los from ruins to get close but don’t enter them so you can’t be seen. Then pop waagh turn 2 and engage from there. If he’s played too cagey you can pin him in his deployment zone, but watch out for him moveblocking with his scout units.
btw those ogryn don't block the Rogal Dorn in the example. Vehicles and Monsters can move over friendly non-monster or vehicle models as long as they end their move not on top of them. Infantry can move through all friendly units as long as they don't end on top of them as well
woul you please point me to where i say the Ogryn block the rogal dorns movement please. Ill apologize and issue a correction if i said that. You likely heard me say the Ogryn block charges to the rogal dorn :) thanks for you support
Yea, my third game, friends place, i told him he could use tau (i wanted to see them). He: "No worries, i have terrain at home". That didn't ended well
Every influencer says that the topic they are covering is the most important part of the game. Lets agree that there are several important aspects to mastering 40k, and most of them do affect each other. Deployment, movement, close combat, etc. Still, thanks for the vid. Good advice.
When you talk about deploying “on the line”, do you mean the edge of the deployment zone? I’ve only been playing for a couple months and I’m not familiar with all the competitive terminology.
Thanks for responding so quickly. I have another question though: would you consider doing more videos on deployment, covering topics like how objectives and enemy units affect where to put your own units?
Belakor unfortunately is absolutely required and auto include now. And i am so loathe to say that. I have been krumped every game I've attempted to not use him
@@Obellisk228 yeah and that sucks big time. Be'lakor is cool don't get me wrong but playing 1000 pt list having to make room for him is so limiting and most of my friends are just getting into the hobby so that's most of my games.
I agree. It makes sub 2k games really tough. At 1k i did find luck with BT. 3 lots flamers dogs and crushers. But its uphill and bt has to start off board.
Ok, so I recognize something.... Sure, give money to Weyland-yutani, cuz xenomorphs (alien, aliens, alien 3, etc) couldn't make things worse. So let's fund that! 😂 Jokes aside I'm sure they make great terrain.
I do! I actually have an entire series on how to get set up, and play on TTS, the files are linked in those videos, i also have them all gathered in a convinient place on the members side of my discord! This is the video series there are 3 of them, th-cam.com/video/NYAfqjCrpz4/w-d-xo.html
@Happykrumpinwargaming007 I've just re read the mission pack instructions and it definitely says you choose your secondaries. Was there an update or something? Or is it just the done thing.
@@poetry3652you draw two with your opponent as your 'fixed' before putting them back after both revealing. Its to not influence your opponents decision of taking fixed or tactical secondaries. So when taking tactical, you fake pick fixed for the show off of each others secondaries before then putting them back in the deck to reshuffle for the random turn 1 draw
You’re the least “aggressive” player I’ve ever heard of. Everything is set up to take zero risk and make your opponent just “waste” there turn and then your kill them when “they can’t target you.”
When you're wondering why your videos top out at 400 views remember how you acted like it was cool instead of fixing the obvious dumb thing. Honestly can't believe you're so enchanted by your own mid job here. @@Happykrumpingwargaming007
I have to say... I don't think this video is very helpful. You showed 1 example of each setup, which only help if you end up in similar setups. You did make me realize there is more than just aggressive and defensive positioning, so that helps. However, what I was expecting was more about what are the questions or thoughts you are having while attempting each of these setups. For example "Here I am going to setup defensively because armies like X, Y, Z are like this (shooting? idk), so for a defensive setup I am immediately looking at LOS. Here's how I determine safe spaces. Now I am checking movement of my opponents main threats, and my units movement to react. etc." You did something similar in another video where you talked about safe spots and ones that looked safe but weren't and why. Additionally, talking about step by step of which units you deploy first and last, how you react to each unit your opponent lays down etc., would also be really helpful. Honestly, if you were to redo this video... I don't think it would be doable in 20 minutes. :( Anyways, keep krumpin!
I Deploy on the line like a true guardsmen, trusting in the Emperors guidance to have me go first.
Godspeed man!
As a sisters player, sometimes the Emperor plays favorites 😂
Never fails 🫡
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Thanks for featuring my flowchart! I always take is as a challenge to make complicated things accessible to newer players. The stuff you put out on this channel is great at helping many (including myself) get better at 40k!
Thanks for letting me feature it! Its super useful for people to organize their thoughts!
Deployed my Neurolictors out of the edges.. Then drew Cleanse on T1.. Thanks to your advice was awesome !!
my man!
As a new player, I need this - the deployment phase was where I made the most mistakes during my orientation game
No stress my man! You are not alone! It is easily the hardest phase to master!
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 thanks! still figuring out my faction's playstyle, it should be somewhere in the middle ground but more to the aggressive side
Orks deploying on the line feels good. Trukks and boss on the line, koptas and squighogs behind them. Turn 1 they nuke my trukks (dont care), turn 2 I charge they're entire army, turn 3 table the gitz
:p
waaaaagh!
Great video. Thanks!
My pleasure! Thank you for the support!
Me and my friend were playing a 2k on a premade map that didn't have a lot of cover. He was 1k sons i was BA. I got to go first and proceeded to be tabled all but 2 units by round 2.
Yeah you were not playing 40k though. You were playing with 40k rules and some other games terrain. The context of 10th edition 40k requires the layouts and terrain styles recommended
Yolo Desployment! For the EMPEROOORR! HOOOWWWLL
Yea Weyland Yutani is known for table top terrain and nothing else...
hahaha, you import a hostile alien species one time....
Amazing video, one thing I would love to see is a guide on movement. I hear that orkz win in the movement phase but I can’t seem to understand how. Thank you for the amazing videos!
a guide on movement. I will have to think on it. Its almost something that would have to be done as a workshop. I see if i can do it in a video!
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Thank you and keep up the amazing content!
Awesome video, should help lots.
Now we just need a vid on how to deal with new marines after codex drop 😅
Haha cheers man, It will be coming, but alas i am not on GW's radar yet for being given the codex early (share muwahahaha) But once its out for a bit ill definitly be doing a rundown on it!
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Hell yeah! I'm really gonna get the experience next match-up, opponent runs Space wolves and I'm expecting advance and charge, with lots of cav and dreads and wulfen
This was really helpful, thank you!
My pleasure! It certainly is a tricky subject for most people :)
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 I'm going to my first tournament next month so I'm trying to wrap my head around smart gameplay that isnt just centered around killing the opponent. I'm bringing necrons and, aside from a few units, can't really do that anyway.
Nice one dude another top video from the warboss WAAAGH!
Excellent! I am super happy you enjoyed it! Ill keep bringing them :)
Please do mate. I started 6 months ago so im at the steep part of the learni g curve. Your content has kept me going and brought me on a long way.
On the line is the black templar way
for the emperor!
One thing that had a big impact on my deployment is considering how I will score certain secondaries(Investigate/AoD) T1. I think you mentioned it in another video how the Eversor helps the army in this manner
So true! You dont want to waste an easy AD or TT turn one because you positioned incorrectly
Helpful and interesting
Cheers buddy! thanks for your support!
I have real issues with my deployment when im against my guard friend. He runs a rogal dorn 3 leman russ, one of which is a tank commander a couple of scout sentinels and some infantry. I play orks and just get tabled by turn 2 in every game.
Yeah this is a classic matchup that is super frustrating. I would say if you are running orks, you MUST be mechanized (mounted in trukks) check out the "aggressive" style deployment i demonstrated, have yourself in a position where he cant kill the contents of the trukks, and if he does its because he chooses to not touch the real threats.... moz, and the squighogs. Its also important to understand that this particular matchup tends to be very, Who went first. WHich can also be frustrating
Take out the scout sentinels as quick as you can, he's using them to improve his BS on his tanks without the need for orders. You need forward deployed Kommandos to stop them using their scout movement and they can't be overwatched so be aggressive with them. Ram everything with you trukks, tank shock is 1 CP and with your free wrecking ball you have 10 D6 to deal upto 6 mortal wounds.
Hey man I’m a guard player who comes up against Orks a lot, I also run 4 Russ + Dorn so this is pretty close to what you’re coming up against. Your best bet is trukks for sure. If he gets first turn and scout moves too aggressively pop waaagh right away and use his units to leapfrog. If you get first turn abuse los from ruins to get close but don’t enter them so you can’t be seen. Then pop waagh turn 2 and engage from there. If he’s played too cagey you can pin him in his deployment zone, but watch out for him moveblocking with his scout units.
btw those ogryn don't block the Rogal Dorn in the example. Vehicles and Monsters can move over friendly non-monster or vehicle models as long as they end their move not on top of them. Infantry can move through all friendly units as long as they don't end on top of them as well
woul you please point me to where i say the Ogryn block the rogal dorns movement please. Ill apologize and issue a correction if i said that. You likely heard me say the Ogryn block charges to the rogal dorn :) thanks for you support
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 They're referring to 12:24
I all ways place aggressive for I love my alfa strikes marines
:P I expect to see some stormlance from you then!
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 more like drop pod. And another of run and gun. Gladius ultra marines are fun as all hell
Yea, my third game, friends place, i told him he could use tau (i wanted to see them). He: "No worries, i have terrain at home". That didn't ended well
hahaha never trust a tau player to put down terrian ;p
thanks for the nice vid :)
my pleasure homie! Let me know if it helps!
Omg! Hahahaha Master Class
Every influencer says that the topic they are covering is the most important part of the game.
Lets agree that there are several important aspects to mastering 40k, and most of them do affect each other.
Deployment, movement, close combat, etc.
Still, thanks for the vid. Good advice.
Thanks for your support :)
When you talk about deploying “on the line”, do you mean the edge of the deployment zone? I’ve only been playing for a couple months and I’m not familiar with all the competitive terminology.
yes! You got it
Thanks for responding so quickly. I have another question though: would you consider doing more videos on deployment, covering topics like how objectives and enemy units affect where to put your own units?
REALLY DISSAPOINTED YOU DIDNT SAY "BE AGGRESSIVE, BE BE AGGRESSIVE" WITH POM POMS
I play a Daemon army with a lot of Khorne and I really struggle not getting shot up before I can get my Bloodthirster in for some BD swinging.
belakor should be the core of your army, the whole army becomes Un targetable outside of 18
Belakor unfortunately is absolutely required and auto include now.
And i am so loathe to say that. I have been krumped every game I've attempted to not use him
@@Obellisk228 yeah and that sucks big time. Be'lakor is cool don't get me wrong but playing 1000 pt list having to make room for him is so limiting and most of my friends are just getting into the hobby so that's most of my games.
I agree. It makes sub 2k games really tough. At 1k i did find luck with BT. 3 lots flamers dogs and crushers. But its uphill and bt has to start off board.
Clarity.
Bt
3 lots of flamer
However many dogs and crushers you have/fit/suit
Placing terrain is really difficult to me too. I think it's the other side of deployment.
Player placed is another beast all together!
Ok, so I recognize something....
Sure, give money to Weyland-yutani, cuz xenomorphs (alien, aliens, alien 3, etc) couldn't make things worse. So let's fund that! 😂
Jokes aside I'm sure they make great terrain.
Hahaha you got it buddy
Hey, do you have a link to the workshop files you use for that map and maps like it?
I do! I actually have an entire series on how to get set up, and play on TTS, the files are linked in those videos, i also have them all gathered in a convinient place on the members side of my discord! This is the video series there are 3 of them, th-cam.com/video/NYAfqjCrpz4/w-d-xo.html
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Those WTC maps specifically are what i was looking for, they were in your second video! I appreciate it!
can't seem to find Goh's flow chart at all, can you link the tweet it's in?
ahh sorry man he just gave it to me on discord :(
Does it not say you select 2 secondary objectives for tactical? So you choose what you start with?
No! You draw your secondaries if you choose Tactical secondaries
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Interesting, I wonder why I read it that way!? It did feel odd.
@Happykrumpinwargaming007 I've just re read the mission pack instructions and it definitely says you choose your secondaries.
Was there an update or something? Or is it just the done thing.
@@poetry3652you draw two with your opponent as your 'fixed' before putting them back after both revealing. Its to not influence your opponents decision of taking fixed or tactical secondaries. So when taking tactical, you fake pick fixed for the show off of each others secondaries before then putting them back in the deck to reshuffle for the random turn 1 draw
@zectric4145 ahhhh that's the missing piece of the puzzle for me. Makes sense!
My soultion, don't deploy at all 😎
hehe, 50% in deepstrike, lets goooooo
You’re the least “aggressive” player I’ve ever heard of. Everything is set up to take zero risk and make your opponent just “waste” there turn and then your kill them when “they can’t target you.”
Do you play competitively? Because through a competitive lens I would be considered hyper aggressive, but that does not mean i am suicidal
UKTC for the win… Suck it WTC
haha Gareth you know i love you..... i also love bowling coincidentally :p
Your entire strategy is “hide.”
Well if you do not hide, you will lose turn one, automatically against most armies
Bro close your cabinet doors before filming a video. You can't have not noticed it in editing.
NEVER YOU WILL SEE MY SPICES FOR EVER
When you're wondering why your videos top out at 400 views remember how you acted like it was cool instead of fixing the obvious dumb thing. Honestly can't believe you're so enchanted by your own mid job here.
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007
This is a pretty anemic "tutorial"
ok, show me a more in depth free tutorial on deployment out there. If you can then ill need to step up my game!
I have to say... I don't think this video is very helpful. You showed 1 example of each setup, which only help if you end up in similar setups. You did make me realize there is more than just aggressive and defensive positioning, so that helps. However, what I was expecting was more about what are the questions or thoughts you are having while attempting each of these setups. For example "Here I am going to setup defensively because armies like X, Y, Z are like this (shooting? idk), so for a defensive setup I am immediately looking at LOS. Here's how I determine safe spaces. Now I am checking movement of my opponents main threats, and my units movement to react. etc." You did something similar in another video where you talked about safe spots and ones that looked safe but weren't and why. Additionally, talking about step by step of which units you deploy first and last, how you react to each unit your opponent lays down etc., would also be really helpful.
Honestly, if you were to redo this video... I don't think it would be doable in 20 minutes. :( Anyways, keep krumpin!
Thanks for you feedback, sorry this video wasnt the one for you :)
No worries. At least you're trying to help me "git gud" :)@@Happykrumpingwargaming007