Yea that definitely was where the video was elevated to the definitive AIO comparison for me. Great for those of us that already have good fans and want to pick up an AIO.
The subtle counter at 7:47 is just 👌 needed to boost the volume to hear the noise and if that was not there... rip ears. Anyway, loving the new vids recently. Keep up the good work!
I just recently picked up the cheaper Thermal right Frozen Notte 240mm white ARGB and swapped it out with some white Arctic P12's. The temps are absolutely chilly on my 7800x3d. I Really can't believe the price for it either. With the two fans it came in at $68 usd. If the pump holds up for more than 2 years I think it will be money well spent. It would be nice to see you guys run a long term budget AIO test if possible. I know logisitically it would be a pretty tough proposition, but finding out if there is several hidden gems in the under $75usd category would be pretty nice, and good to know. Thanks for doing such a through review on this, keep up the good work.
Flawless...there is literally nothing more, besides long term testing, that is missing here. Especially the AM5 / Intel Comparison but moreover, the very good graphical presentation for so many different Units, exactly what i needed to go and buy my first AIO and get rid of my BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 ( i hate the clamping mechanism soooo much i want to cut my arms open everytime ) :D . Keep it up, you are the Cooler Tech GOD :D
Had the Arctic Frezer II 240 for years and currently rocking the Pure Loop 2 360 - both have been working perfectly so far and temps never had any issues.
Absolutely. But it will be later this year. This one took so long and so many man hours that we'll let it sit for the time being and roll out our individual 240mm reviews over the next few months.
Watched the entire 25 minutes and first I want to say thanks to the team for doing all of the testing, especially between Intel and AMD on all the coolers Something interesting is my LT720 and LS720 (the 360mm version), their pump noise is nowhere as bad as that LT520. I wonder if that AIO is defective or maybe Deepcool has different pump speeds on the 240mm compared to the 360mm
I got the white version of the LT520 yesterday. I am using it with a 5950x manual OC'd to 4.5 GHz on all cores at 1.17v. I did a Cinebench R23 Multi-core test on them & got a score of 29,400. I didn't hear any obnoxious or loud noises from the pump & my temps topped out at 85 degress C. Just thought I'd elaborate on my comment. The faulty units are rare, from what I'm seeing.
Bought the Thermalright Frozen Edge myself. Been really tough on my 7950x with it being so ridicously hot. I really thought I went wrong here. No review anywhere and then @Hardware Canucks popps out with this review. I think a made decent bet price/perfomance wise. Big Love!
Best and most revealing roundup I've seen! thanks. My LT520 pump is inaudible at full speed though. Love this cooler on my 7800x3d and after watching your video I have no plans on replacing it anytime soon. I have Phanteks T30's on it for the win
@@hockeyplayer10able no pump noise at all on mine, unsure of the fans as I don't use them . I am using phantels t30 fans since I got it. I assume that deepcools quality control may be a dice roll.
Actually when the pump ramps up fast it makes the sound of moving water for a second, but other than that it's whisper quiet. Can't hear it. It is a 3000+ rpm pump which I think is part of the reason is cools so well.
That is one comprehensive test. Very glad you have mentioned the noise that pumps are making as I was under impression they should be completely quiet. At least that was one of the reasons I was looking into AIO. I have purchased a Lian Li Galahad II LCD Performance AIO 280mm that has 8th gen Asetek pump. Exactly the same that is used in Asus Ryujin III. The only reason I figured that out is when you played the noise it makes. When I first got the unit I thought it was broken because of that sound and I have actually replaced it with completely new one that was making exactly the same noise. I wished I knew that before the purchase ;)
Thank you for the standardized fan testing. This is usually never tested and it’s a good indicator to see if the fans are holding back or carrying the AIO. Regardless of what AIO I choose for my 360mm I had the plan to put T30/Noctuas on it. Tests like this one would help me choose. Ended up going with a 360mm EKWB Dark and T30s it’s been excellent.
12:30 the price of that ThermalRight giving that performance is the clear winner, though the Phantek stands out overall, but due to the PRICE of the TR, WIN!!
Mike was refreshingly humble. Good on you Mike! Good job to all, this helped me immensely. I think I'll go with the Galahad for my build - I just like the combo of looks to price.
Absolutely can confirm your comments regarding the mounting of the Kraken. I have one of these mounted on my 7700X and have remounted it repeatedly trying to get decent performance out of it. I finally managed to get reasonable temps out of it, but my experience with this cooler on AMD has me rethinking the whole 240 AIO concept. Now I realize it was simply the wrong cooler for the job. Thanks for pointing out, both here and in your air cooler reviews, that Intel and AMD CPUs have different cooling requirements from a mechanical standpoint.
I purchased the Thermalright Frozen Notte 360mm cooler last month and I am impressed with its performance. Before installing it, my 5800X3D processor would never cool below 60 degrees Celsius on full load. This cooler is not only inexpensive but also does a great job at keeping the processor cool. However, I am unsure about its durability. Initially, the fans were quite loud, but after making a few adjustments to the fan curve, the noise level has decreased significantly. Kudos Thermalright
Huge respect guys! Great job! I wonder why the pump on your DeepCool LT520 is so noisy. I have an LS520 which I think is basically the same and its pump is inaudible even at 100%. Otherwise, in addition to the LS520, I also have an AK620 and I change them according to my mood with a pair of P12 Max fans. I am very happy with both coolers and the fans as well. Much of this happiness is due to you helping us find the best hardware for each of us. Respect!
Interesting you should say that. We have two samples here and both behave the same way. Looking a customer comments, the sentiment seems to be mirrored quite a bit.
I have the LS520 SE and the pump is completely silent as well. Much unlike some other AIOs I had before. But not sure if it's much different from LT520
@@HardwareCanucks Well.. I think the LT and LS series are the same just because they look alike, but I don't know if that's really the case. Also, my LS520 is now a year old and there may be inconsistencies in their manufacturing process. Who knows?
Mike and HC crew, you guys are doing such great work to illuminate the "why's" and "how's" of hardware performance. Thankful for all your efforts to keeping our hobbyists well informed.
You guys are awesome! Would love some advanced testing on the Thermalright. Bought it myself and was really in questions if it was a good decision! Thanky very much! Big love!
Nice to see the sensible options like Thermalright, Deepcool, EKWB, and Artic are performing very well. And what a disappointment to see many of the pricey cooler only care about their looks. Also, this would be something you expect from a big media with large resources, but no, it's HWC with its small size crew and resources. Well done, you all! And thank you!
Always love your commitment to getting all the data and making us informed consumers! Looking forward to the eventual Single tower v Dual Tower v 240mm v 280mm master cooler comparison
Earned my subscription with this video. Really interested in seeing a follow up video when Zen5 releases as I'll be doing an ugprade then. I have a Kraken 240mm for my old 2020 build with a 3900X and I've been unhappy with the cooling performance and noise.
Wouah, this video is absolutly perfect. I couldn't care less about AIO but damn, every aspect if well covered. I cannot think of something you could add to make it even better. Testing for Intel and AMD is, as results showned, absolutly essential. And you did it. Noise normalized test, check. And even a fan normalized test, one thing I regretted to not see on some other of your video about sff cooler. Just thank you, once again it's perfection.
Looking forward to ThermalRight's Frozen Vision and Frozen Warframe, both have LCD screens and at least in foreign markets retail for under $100. Likely one of the best AIO price to performance wise right now is the Azza Cube. Puts the 4000 rpm pump in the radiator and according to benchmarks is right up there with the EK in terms of performance.
23:47 thats more than $100 Loved this testing. That Thermalright setup looks compelling at the prices, but its scary when it comes to watercooling. You just feel it's too good to be true, that something is going to spill. I have the same reservations about ID Cooling as well.
ID Cooling and Thermalright are both OGs. Especially Thermalright that is one of the oldest companies featured in this video. They also have tons of clients in the business side. The point is: margins on AIOs are crazy high, that's why every company is flocking into the market. They're just undercutting everybody, doesn't mean it's a bad product.
Big congratulations for the team to make this awesome video and testing, i love your cooling reviews and testing, big way! ❤ About the results it's great to see my LFii doing well on am5 because this is my main upgrade goal for 2lthis year. Say bye to the 5900x, say hello to the 7800x3d 😊
The Thermalright is in a league of it's own at that price. Now I want to see the results when you buy the Thermalright and 2 T30 fans, swap the Thermalright fans for the T30's, and pocket the $80 you saved. Amazon has the TR FE's for less than $50, just saw a white one for $40!
Thanks so much for all the hard work guys. Would love to see a showdown between the best AIOs in this video (EK, TR, Arctic, Phanteks) vs. the better air coolers on the market. Hopefully something where you can just pull the data together from different videos you've done recently so you don't have to retest everything.
I got the Liquid Freezer 2 240 for about 40 bucks on a sale. Just started it after moving cases and adding the AIO into the mix. It's already so much more quiet than my stock fan lol. Very pleased about it! Mounting kit was okay but I didn't understand the offset thing and had to reinstall it. But that wasn't too hard.
I skipped around so apologies if you mentioned it but mixing the temperature testing and fan normalised testing is really interesting. Depending on the trendline of dba vs C tells you approximately what difference fan replacement makes on noise. If you flip the script and think about temperature normalisation then it tells you a little about how much noise reduction you might expect to see, granted different fans will have different noise profiles. If you're open to switching out fans then comparing performance of aios with stock fans may be fairly different to performance for each aio with arctic p12 maxes, so you can't rely on stock fan testing in that instance. Combining the two forms of testing mentioned earlier goes some way to solving that problem In some cases changing fans may make barely any difference to noise levels, in others much more. Ie 2, 4 or 7dba. That could dramatically impact what aio best suits your needs if silence is important to you
Thank you for PUMP NOISE mentions. Pump noise is worse than fan noise, and almost no one tests/reports on it. I've returned AIOs for the pump noise. Corsair ones are horrific.
I got the Thermaltake on sale a year ago for 135$ CA & used the money saved to install 2 Phantek T30s (33$ CA ea) which populate the rest of my build as well. I got lucky with a low noise unit that performs flawlessly since I bought it. 140$ US at end of the day and very happy.
Recently bought EK Nucleus CR360 and replaced stock fans with Phanteks T30 fans. And it becomes an absolute beast. My CPU 13700KF, power limit 280W with NO undervolting, temps about 77-80C in cinebench.
Good infomation, though I would've actually liked if you put the Phanteks T30 fans on every other AIO as a normalized test too, because I have my doubts about how much of that AIO's performance is due to the radiator and/or pump being designed specifically for the fans, versus it simply being due to the T30s' status of the best performing 120mm fans on the market.
That single data point doesn't actually tell you anything about whether the Phanteks radiator is designed to work better specifically with the T30 fans. If the delta between the Phanteks radiator and, say, the EK radiator is the same whether they're both using T30s or P12 Maxes, then it means the the radiator design of the Phanteks has nothing to do with being optimized for the T30s.
Had a Lian Li Galahad 360 that was fairly quiet but over time performance just dropped. Serial number was outside of their recall for known issues but still just got warmer over time. Swapped to a EK Nucleus CR360 Dark and after a week the motor started making loud noise. Did RMA with it and even the replacement was loud. Had to turn down motor to 60% speed to make it quiet. Gave up on liquid cooling and went back to my old Noctua NH-U12A Chromax. No noise, no concerns.
i just ordered the thermalright 240, i have the nzxt 120 but didnt fancy spending sooo much on a known brand 240, when i saw these kinda of results from such a cheap cooler i knew it was the right option, thanks!
I'm surprised about the pump noise on the LT 520. I've got an LT 720 and it's basically silent and performs very well. I am on AM4 though (5800X3D). I have EK Basic 240 AIO in another system and that has ridiculous pump noise.
Well sht, I hope you do a recap video like this at the end of the year (even though this took so much time, am sorry) you hyped me up on the up coming AIO ahahaha
Just picked up the Deep LT20 yesterday at Microcenter for new desktop build. Already had a Deep Cool LS520 in white 2 weeks ago for Niece's build. And Running a Deep Cool AS500 in white tower. So far so good.
We Need More Thermalright Testing Both Air And Water Cooling Wise , Id Love to see more products and Testings with and without contact frames when testing with lga 1700
Don't really need more testing with their air coolers tbh, though they have added new fans recently to their line up which may change performance. Its the AIO that is being overlooked with ThermalRight. I'm more curious about who the OEM is for their AIOs as well.
@@deuswulf6193 I'm interested in the new coolers with fans they dropped , and fan testing for their stuff and also core matrix and frozen vision and frozen warframe tests
I'm using BeQuiet LOOP 2 280mm and to maximise it's efficiency as well as aesthetics, I replaced the original fans with APNX FP1 30mm thick fans. Really good results.
Given this is such a conclusive review of the most popular aios on the market I would’ve loved to see which aio has the most silent pump not just which are way too loud
Oh no, I just bought an AiO 2 days ago 😢 Scince it is an “Alpenföhn Gletscherwasser” 280mm it wouldnt have been tested from you guys. But maybe I would have gone for one of your tested 240s instead. Pls keep up your amazing work!! :)
Such stellar content friend! Any chance you could do a 2025 update and throw in a few new players? Specifically I'd love to see the latest Msi mag i240, Aurus Waterforce II, EK-Nucleus, CoolerMaster Atmos, and Iceberg IceFLOE Oasis. Seems like these particular AIO's are all so new there's very little in the way of comparison reviews. Lastly, is Ryuo III the same performance as Ryuin III?
Because of your test, I have a pair of P-140 Max's on the way. I have the stock p-14s in my Arctic Freezer II 280. Cheap upgrade to the Artic Freezer II 280 for a 3c, maybe even a 4c drop in temps. 👍 The price of the Thermalright Frozen Edge ($46.00 on Amazon) is so cheap it scares me. But it seems to work great by those who've been reporting in the comments.
I wonder though if the Phanteks performs very well because of the fans, I would absolutely LOVE to see another roundup of the best performing AIO based off of the AIO itself using the same fans to see which one actually performs the best, I'm someone who likes to have optimized hardware, so the best fans with the best AIO would be amazing!
I'm planning to build a PC soon and chose Pure Loop 2 FX. Looks like it's not the best option out there, but its look sold it for me. I thought of getting air cooler initially, but then decided to add some fancy lights and to me it looks better than any other competiotors.
Would be nice to get more info: 1. Test stand specs 2. Name of stress test. 3. How long you stress cpu. 4. Temperature is average or max on core? That will give much better picture of what's going on))
Bought a TT 280mm, and initially got crap temps on my 9900K, but it was a mounting pressure issue, because increasing the pressure with som washers the temps are now great.
One of the best quality from PC techtuber this year. Well dedicated and we really appreciate that. Keep up the good work guy, hopefully there will be more content about 360 AIO later as I plan to build it at the end of this year.
Need a video on 280mm AIOs, especially the Valkyrie c280. Not many english reviews on it, but the results look great, would love a comparison of that against other 280s.
Just bought the LT520.. I can't hear the pump at all at it's max speed, though I don't have the fancy cover fitted. I like how small the pump block is without the silly cover, this is one of the best and most compatible 240mm AIO's on the market right now, highly recommend it for people looking to use the dan A4 H2O.
According tò his charts, we must look at the temperature at the highest DB, which Is the best temperature each aio can reach at their max Speed, right? Considering this, LT520 almost wins everywhere together with ryujin III and ekwb nucleus (i exclude Artic and Phanteks because they are to big). So what would you put for best temperature at fullest Speed among nucleus, ryujin and lt520?
The fact that you guys put in fan normalized tests as well puts you above and beyond. Absolutely nailed it.
Yea that definitely was where the video was elevated to the definitive AIO comparison for me. Great for those of us that already have good fans and want to pick up an AIO.
Agreed. it went over my head until it was brought up. I love better options. Thank you.
The subtle counter at 7:47 is just 👌 needed to boost the volume to hear the noise and if that was not there... rip ears. Anyway, loving the new vids recently. Keep up the good work!
I just recently picked up the cheaper Thermal right Frozen Notte 240mm white ARGB and swapped it out with some white Arctic P12's. The temps are absolutely chilly on my 7800x3d. I Really can't believe the price for it either. With the two fans it came in at $68 usd. If the pump holds up for more than 2 years I think it will be money well spent. It would be nice to see you guys run a long term budget AIO test if possible. I know logisitically it would be a pretty tough proposition, but finding out if there is several hidden gems in the under $75usd category would be pretty nice, and good to know. Thanks for doing such a through review on this, keep up the good work.
Can confirm that this cooler is amazing. Got it on my 7600X and at full load I’m sitting at 68C
Is it still good? I want to buy one
swap with asus xf120
Flawless...there is literally nothing more, besides long term testing, that is missing here. Especially the AM5 / Intel Comparison but moreover, the very good graphical presentation for so many different Units, exactly what i needed to go and buy my first AIO and get rid of my BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 ( i hate the clamping mechanism soooo much i want to cut my arms open everytime ) :D
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Keep it up, you are the Cooler Tech GOD :D
Well done on all the testing, especially since you're one of the only channels that separate Intel & AMD results and explain why!
Had the Arctic Frezer II 240 for years and currently rocking the Pure Loop 2 360 - both have been working perfectly so far and temps never had any issues.
We need the same video but with 360's.
I just said this
Absolutely. But it will be later this year. This one took so long and so many man hours that we'll let it sit for the time being and roll out our individual 240mm reviews over the next few months.
@@HardwareCanucksand the hyte Thicc 240/280 too!
I wonder if t30 360 will still be top
@@chubbysumo2230 man I heard that thing cooling is elite and beats top end 360 aio’s
Watched the entire 25 minutes and first I want to say thanks to the team for doing all of the testing, especially between Intel and AMD on all the coolers
Something interesting is my LT720 and LS720 (the 360mm version), their pump noise is nowhere as bad as that LT520. I wonder if that AIO is defective or maybe Deepcool has different pump speeds on the 240mm compared to the 360mm
We have two of them here and both have the same issue. No idea why.
What it makes it worst is that theoracly they got the same pump.
My LT720 pump is silent at 100% for all practical purposes from what I can tell
I got the white version of the LT520 yesterday. I am using it with a 5950x manual OC'd to 4.5 GHz on all cores at 1.17v. I did a Cinebench R23 Multi-core test on them & got a score of 29,400. I didn't hear any obnoxious or loud noises from the pump & my temps topped out at 85 degress C. Just thought I'd elaborate on my comment. The faulty units are rare, from what I'm seeing.
Literally nobody else is having problems with LT pump noise.
Wow wasn't expecting this, this was awesome! Really easy to digest, great photography, and good recommendations with no holding back! Awesome!
Wow, the Thermalright Frozen Edge Truly is the bang for the buck among the others used in this testing! I might consider getting one myself.
Thermalright and Arctic killing it again
Ye
$50 is freaking ridiculous. Next lowest cost was nearly TWICE as much.
They never stopped killing it - i have 3 arctic lf II coolers there amazing coolers
Bought the Thermalright Frozen Edge myself. Been really tough on my 7950x with it being so ridicously hot. I really thought I went wrong here. No review anywhere and then @Hardware Canucks popps out with this review. I think a made decent bet price/perfomance wise. Big Love!
They are the goats.
Best and most revealing roundup I've seen! thanks. My LT520 pump is inaudible at full speed though. Love this cooler on my 7800x3d and after watching your video I have no plans on replacing it anytime soon. I have Phanteks T30's on it for the win
How is the noise on the LT520? As bad or as drastic as the video portrays?
@@hockeyplayer10able no pump noise at all on mine, unsure of the fans as I don't use them . I am using phantels t30 fans since I got it. I assume that deepcools quality control may be a dice roll.
Actually when the pump ramps up fast it makes the sound of moving water for a second, but other than that it's whisper quiet. Can't hear it. It is a 3000+ rpm pump which I think is part of the reason is cools so well.
Can't hear mine on the LT720 either. Also running T30s on it
Is it only me, or that was actually the best AIO test i ever saw?
OMG I literally was looking for a comparison yesterday since I'm putting together an SFF rig !!!! Thank you!!!!! ❤
That is one comprehensive test. Very glad you have mentioned the noise that pumps are making as I was under impression they should be completely quiet. At least that was one of the reasons I was looking into AIO. I have purchased a Lian Li Galahad II LCD Performance AIO 280mm that has 8th gen Asetek pump. Exactly the same that is used in Asus Ryujin III. The only reason I figured that out is when you played the noise it makes.
When I first got the unit I thought it was broken because of that sound and I have actually replaced it with completely new one that was making exactly the same noise. I wished I knew that before the purchase ;)
Thank you for the standardized fan testing. This is usually never tested and it’s a good indicator to see if the fans are holding back or carrying the AIO. Regardless of what AIO I choose for my 360mm I had the plan to put T30/Noctuas on it. Tests like this one would help me choose. Ended up going with a 360mm EKWB Dark and T30s it’s been excellent.
I am waiting for the 280mm and 420mm rounds
I'm 2nd this.
not popular sizes, I would'nt hold my breath. especially 420mm.
The 240s review should give you a good baseline of what their 280s are capable of. But I doubt you'll get anything for 420s anytime soon.
@@Das_Pike tñyes, but there is models with different pums and fans depending on the size of the radiator in the same brands
Watching this video was such a refreshing change. I love how you presented so much data gracefully :)
1st video recommended to me, instantly clicked. Cooler reviews on Hardware Canucks are consistently excellent
12:30 the price of that ThermalRight giving that performance is the clear winner, though the Phantek stands out overall, but due to the PRICE of the TR, WIN!!
Tnx for taking the time mate!
Sooo useful information in here. Made me decide what to buy. So prefectly timed. :)
Thank you so much for this roundup. I have been looking for a real comparison on AIOs for a long time.
Mike was refreshingly humble. Good on you Mike! Good job to all, this helped me immensely. I think I'll go with the Galahad for my build - I just like the combo of looks to price.
Absolutely can confirm your comments regarding the mounting of the Kraken. I have one of these mounted on my 7700X and have remounted it repeatedly trying to get decent performance out of it. I finally managed to get reasonable temps out of it, but my experience with this cooler on AMD has me rethinking the whole 240 AIO concept. Now I realize it was simply the wrong cooler for the job. Thanks for pointing out, both here and in your air cooler reviews, that Intel and AMD CPUs have different cooling requirements from a mechanical standpoint.
I purchased the Thermalright Frozen Notte 360mm cooler last month and I am impressed with its performance. Before installing it, my 5800X3D processor would never cool below 60 degrees Celsius on full load. This cooler is not only inexpensive but also does a great job at keeping the processor cool. However, I am unsure about its durability. Initially, the fans were quite loud, but after making a few adjustments to the fan curve, the noise level has decreased significantly. Kudos Thermalright
Huge respect guys! Great job!
I wonder why the pump on your DeepCool LT520 is so noisy. I have an LS520 which I think is basically the same and its pump is inaudible even at 100%.
Otherwise, in addition to the LS520, I also have an AK620 and I change them according to my mood with a pair of P12 Max fans. I am very happy with both coolers and the fans as well.
Much of this happiness is due to you helping us find the best hardware for each of us. Respect!
Interesting you should say that. We have two samples here and both behave the same way. Looking a customer comments, the sentiment seems to be mirrored quite a bit.
I have the LS520 SE and the pump is completely silent as well. Much unlike some other AIOs I had before.
But not sure if it's much different from LT520
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Well.. I think the LT and LS series are the same just because they look alike, but I don't know if that's really the case. Also, my LS520 is now a year old and there may be inconsistencies in their manufacturing process. Who knows?
I have the LS520 and the pump is insanely loud. Support said it was normal, so I returned it.
Mike and HC crew, you guys are doing such great work to illuminate the "why's" and "how's" of hardware performance. Thankful for all your efforts to keeping our hobbyists well informed.
I thought the Ryujim was a overprice product 😂. Damn that am5 results shocks me. Thanks again mike & co for the vid
you literally read my mind with the fan-normalized testing - thank you so much for including that in this video, it's really valuable
You guys are awesome! Would love some advanced testing on the Thermalright. Bought it myself and was really in questions if it was a good decision! Thanky very much! Big love!
Nice to see the sensible options like Thermalright, Deepcool, EKWB, and Artic are performing very well. And what a disappointment to see many of the pricey cooler only care about their looks.
Also, this would be something you expect from a big media with large resources, but no, it's HWC with its small size crew and resources. Well done, you all! And thank you!
Really need to see more thermalright products. Curious about their 280mm and 360 aio. Thank you for your great work btw!
Massive respect for doing all this testing!! Epic stuff!!
Exceptional work there.
Thanx to the whole team for those results.
Always love your commitment to getting all the data and making us informed consumers! Looking forward to the eventual Single tower v Dual Tower v 240mm v 280mm master cooler comparison
Very helpful. Thanks for the detailed, in-depth testing 👍
Earned my subscription with this video. Really interested in seeing a follow up video when Zen5 releases as I'll be doing an ugprade then. I have a Kraken 240mm for my old 2020 build with a 3900X and I've been unhappy with the cooling performance and noise.
Congrats on an incredibly thorough review! Amazing work, left no stone unturned! Thanks!
Wouah, this video is absolutly perfect. I couldn't care less about AIO but damn, every aspect if well covered.
I cannot think of something you could add to make it even better.
Testing for Intel and AMD is, as results showned, absolutly essential. And you did it.
Noise normalized test, check.
And even a fan normalized test, one thing I regretted to not see on some other of your video about sff cooler.
Just thank you, once again it's perfection.
Thanks!
Finally a good AIO review 👍
Phanteks T30 version needs a small revision for Am5 maybe a better pump with bigger suface to get offset mount.
Looking forward to ThermalRight's Frozen Vision and Frozen Warframe, both have LCD screens and at least in foreign markets retail for under $100.
Likely one of the best AIO price to performance wise right now is the Azza Cube. Puts the 4000 rpm pump in the radiator and according to benchmarks is right up there with the EK in terms of performance.
4Κ pump sounds menacing
23:47 thats more than $100
Loved this testing. That Thermalright setup looks compelling at the prices, but its scary when it comes to watercooling. You just feel it's too good to be true, that something is going to spill. I have the same reservations about ID Cooling as well.
ID Cooling and Thermalright are both OGs. Especially Thermalright that is one of the oldest companies featured in this video. They also have tons of clients in the business side. The point is: margins on AIOs are crazy high, that's why every company is flocking into the market. They're just undercutting everybody, doesn't mean it's a bad product.
Absolutely wonderful review. And the lighting and colour in this video is also beautiful, as usual.
Classy. "I'm just the guy in front of the camera right now."
Crazy amount of work you have done here!!! Respect!!
Big congratulations for the team to make this awesome video and testing, i love your cooling reviews and testing, big way! ❤ About the results it's great to see my LFii doing well on am5 because this is my main upgrade goal for 2lthis year. Say bye to the 5900x, say hello to the 7800x3d 😊
Thank you very much!
Great review! As an owner of Fractal Design R5 PC case I want to ask you to do similar test with 280mm AIO.
Thanks as always!
Great video! You should do a section for SFF cases next year! Looking one for the Fractal Era 2
great video man, really enjoyed! would be nice to see even more 240mm AIOs tested)
I love the graphs, awesome and well detailed, helped me so much thank you
The Thermalright is in a league of it's own at that price. Now I want to see the results when you buy the Thermalright and 2 T30 fans, swap the Thermalright fans for the T30's, and pocket the $80 you saved. Amazon has the TR FE's for less than $50, just saw a white one for $40!
Intense testing, thanks... Man, u become a brand on CPU Cooler reviews ! 👍
Thanks. Please have this as a reference when the newer models are out.
Thanks so much for all the hard work guys. Would love to see a showdown between the best AIOs in this video (EK, TR, Arctic, Phanteks) vs. the better air coolers on the market. Hopefully something where you can just pull the data together from different videos you've done recently so you don't have to retest everything.
I wish we could. We use completely different systems for each platform.
I got the Liquid Freezer 2 240 for about 40 bucks on a sale. Just started it after moving cases and adding the AIO into the mix. It's already so much more quiet than my stock fan lol.
Very pleased about it! Mounting kit was okay but I didn't understand the offset thing and had to reinstall it. But that wasn't too hard.
Nice video, will be waiting for the 360mm battle😛
Thanks! I was waiting for this review since you announced, it is coming during Thanksgiving video.
Where I live the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 costs 66€ from Amazon.. I think it's time to change the Wraith Prism of my 3900X, thanks man 👍
Perfect timing as I am looking for one for the A4 H20
Be careful with the radiator size and make sure that screws don't stick out. Just from my experience with a4 h20 😅
I'm sure you already know this but that's a VERY challenging case to water cool since it takes a specific rad size.
deepcool ls520 se is the standard recommendation for that case.
@@HardwareCanucks I too am planning on downsizing. What case alternative would you recommend for an AMD build?
@@zomboy33 NR200P. You can't get more freedom, compatibility and versatility in mini-ITX imo. It's also not even that much bigger than the H2O.
I skipped around so apologies if you mentioned it but mixing the temperature testing and fan normalised testing is really interesting. Depending on the trendline of dba vs C tells you approximately what difference fan replacement makes on noise. If you flip the script and think about temperature normalisation then it tells you a little about how much noise reduction you might expect to see, granted different fans will have different noise profiles.
If you're open to switching out fans then comparing performance of aios with stock fans may be fairly different to performance for each aio with arctic p12 maxes, so you can't rely on stock fan testing in that instance. Combining the two forms of testing mentioned earlier goes some way to solving that problem
In some cases changing fans may make barely any difference to noise levels, in others much more. Ie 2, 4 or 7dba. That could dramatically impact what aio best suits your needs if silence is important to you
Thank you for PUMP NOISE mentions. Pump noise is worse than fan noise, and almost no one tests/reports on it. I've returned AIOs for the pump noise. Corsair ones are horrific.
yep, mine i have to keep at 68% power when idle bc it makes a ugly noise above 70%.
Your video is made finely, it is easy to watch and understand.
I got the Thermaltake on sale a year ago for 135$ CA & used the money saved to install 2 Phantek T30s (33$ CA ea) which populate the rest of my build as well. I got lucky with a low noise unit that performs flawlessly since I bought it. 140$ US at end of the day and very happy.
Recently bought EK Nucleus CR360 and replaced stock fans with Phanteks T30 fans. And it becomes an absolute beast. My CPU 13700KF, power limit 280W with NO undervolting, temps about 77-80C in cinebench.
If your testing was true to form, then gratus for going through the works and the follow up video. "Applause"
Good infomation, though I would've actually liked if you put the Phanteks T30 fans on every other AIO as a normalized test too, because I have my doubts about how much of that AIO's performance is due to the radiator and/or pump being designed specifically for the fans, versus it simply being due to the T30s' status of the best performing 120mm fans on the market.
I mean, they put P12 max on all of them and the only one with no difference was the T30. No need for swapping all of the fans with the t30s
That single data point doesn't actually tell you anything about whether the Phanteks radiator is designed to work better specifically with the T30 fans. If the delta between the Phanteks radiator and, say, the EK radiator is the same whether they're both using T30s or P12 Maxes, then it means the the radiator design of the Phanteks has nothing to do with being optimized for the T30s.
Really helpful, the Phanteks is now on the ITX build list
Had a Lian Li Galahad 360 that was fairly quiet but over time performance just dropped. Serial number was outside of their recall for known issues but still just got warmer over time. Swapped to a EK Nucleus CR360 Dark and after a week the motor started making loud noise. Did RMA with it and even the replacement was loud. Had to turn down motor to 60% speed to make it quiet. Gave up on liquid cooling and went back to my old Noctua NH-U12A Chromax. No noise, no concerns.
i just ordered the thermalright 240, i have the nzxt 120 but didnt fancy spending sooo much on a known brand 240, when i saw these kinda of results from such a cheap cooler i knew it was the right option, thanks!
Amazing video, insane amount of effort put it. Thank you!
I'm surprised about the pump noise on the LT 520. I've got an LT 720 and it's basically silent and performs very well. I am on AM4 though (5800X3D). I have EK Basic 240 AIO in another system and that has ridiculous pump noise.
hell yea, i know we go back and forth but this was a good one
Well sht, I hope you do a recap video like this at the end of the year (even though this took so much time, am sorry) you hyped me up on the up coming AIO ahahaha
Thank you for this, very good content as usual and it must have take a lot of time. Clearly the best chanel for cooling solution review !
Check out Thermalright Frozen Vision 240 AIO, 129.99€ AIO with a screen.
Just picked up the Deep LT20 yesterday at Microcenter for new desktop build. Already had a Deep Cool LS520 in white 2 weeks ago for Niece's build. And Running a Deep Cool AS500 in white tower. So far so good.
I normally do not comment or like videos but this is worth it
We Need More Thermalright Testing Both Air And Water Cooling Wise , Id Love to see more products and Testings with and without contact frames when testing with lga 1700
Don't really need more testing with their air coolers tbh, though they have added new fans recently to their line up which may change performance. Its the AIO that is being overlooked with ThermalRight. I'm more curious about who the OEM is for their AIOs as well.
@@deuswulf6193 I'm interested in the new coolers with fans they dropped , and fan testing for their stuff and also core matrix and frozen vision and frozen warframe tests
@@deuswulf6193also thermalright makes their stuff proprietary and in house
I'm using BeQuiet LOOP 2 280mm and to maximise it's efficiency as well as aesthetics, I replaced the original fans with APNX FP1 30mm thick fans. Really good results.
Given this is such a conclusive review of the most popular aios on the market I would’ve loved to see which aio has the most silent pump not just which are way too loud
Thanks to this video the Phanteks Glacier One T30 has been absolutely sold out everywhere.
Oh no, I just bought an AiO 2 days ago 😢 Scince it is an “Alpenföhn Gletscherwasser” 280mm it wouldnt have been tested from you guys. But maybe I would have gone for one of your tested 240s instead. Pls keep up your amazing work!! :)
I got the Phanteks Glacier One T30, 360 variant and it's cooling my 13700k insanely good. And you can't even hear it. Mindblowing.
Is this the V2 version which has the 8th Gen Astek pump. Just wondering is pump noise loud at 100%. The Asus equivalent is very noisy.
Maybe in the next video you could include a fractal design cooler?
Such stellar content friend! Any chance you could do a 2025 update and throw in a few new players? Specifically I'd love to see the latest Msi mag i240, Aurus Waterforce II, EK-Nucleus, CoolerMaster Atmos, and Iceberg IceFLOE Oasis. Seems like these particular AIO's are all so new there's very little in the way of comparison reviews. Lastly, is Ryuo III the same performance as Ryuin III?
10:17 yup, very impressed with that ThermalRight.
No AM4 testing? :'( On the other hand, what a great video! We appreciate all your hard work!
Thermalright let's goo! Really wanna see what their long term looks like or maybe a interview with one of their engineers.
Because of your test, I have a pair of P-140 Max's on the way. I have the stock p-14s in my Arctic Freezer II 280. Cheap upgrade to the Artic Freezer II 280 for a 3c, maybe even a 4c drop in temps. 👍
The price of the Thermalright Frozen Edge ($46.00 on Amazon) is so cheap it scares me. But it seems to work great by those who've been reporting in the comments.
Finally someone's reviewing the Thermalright AIOs! Woot! Can't wait to see how their 360mm ones hold up
Your production quality is insane!
I wonder though if the Phanteks performs very well because of the fans, I would absolutely LOVE to see another roundup of the best performing AIO based off of the AIO itself using the same fans to see which one actually performs the best, I'm someone who likes to have optimized hardware, so the best fans with the best AIO would be amazing!
I'm planning to build a PC soon and chose Pure Loop 2 FX. Looks like it's not the best option out there, but its look sold it for me. I thought of getting air cooler initially, but then decided to add some fancy lights and to me it looks better than any other competiotors.
Would be nice to get more info: 1. Test stand specs 2. Name of stress test. 3. How long you stress cpu. 4. Temperature is average or max on core? That will give much better picture of what's going on))
Bought a TT 280mm, and initially got crap temps on my 9900K, but it was a mounting pressure issue, because increasing the pressure with som washers the temps are now great.
Thank you so much for the effort you put into this. Keep up the great work 👍
One of the best quality from PC techtuber this year. Well dedicated and we really appreciate that. Keep up the good work guy, hopefully there will be more content about 360 AIO later as I plan to build it at the end of this year.
We need one for 360 too❤
Need a video on 280mm AIOs, especially the Valkyrie c280. Not many english reviews on it, but the results look great, would love a comparison of that against other 280s.
Just bought the LT520.. I can't hear the pump at all at it's max speed, though I don't have the fancy cover fitted. I like how small the pump block is without the silly cover, this is one of the best and most compatible 240mm AIO's on the market right now, highly recommend it for people looking to use the dan A4 H2O.
According tò his charts, we must look at the temperature at the highest DB, which Is the best temperature each aio can reach at their max Speed, right? Considering this, LT520 almost wins everywhere together with ryujin III and ekwb nucleus (i exclude Artic and Phanteks because they are to big). So what would you put for best temperature at fullest Speed among nucleus, ryujin and lt520?