The biggest problem with heel Dixie was that nothing she ever did made any sense. All her actions served no in story function other than being evil, despite Dixie not being portrayed as an evil for evil's sake character.
Or have Dixie be a big factor to his success and then magnus hates her and breaks away and turns face and then makes a promo about how he has to prove himself to hid fans because he got there due to Dixie
He WAS part of the problem, but not really his fault. At the time Nick was still pretty green, putting the main belt on a guy that was green as grass is never a good idea. Yes there are times that it does work (Goldberg comes to my mind) but Nick was booked as primarily a midcarder for most of his time with TNA, he wasn't pushed to the moon from the start, and never really had a metoric rise in the company.
The booking was very weird. Suddenly Magnus turns heel and at the same time loses the ability to win a match without 8 other wrestlers. But I've honestly always loved Magnus/Nick Aldis promos. Very concise and to the point with elements of my personal fav mic worker of all-time, Nick Bockwinkel.
Yeah like even when the heel face dynamic was swapped between two rivals then the guy who was the original face resorts to cheating or numbers game. I guess if the right story telling makes sense but I guess it's just a wrestling thing.
I know that's common heel practice, but this is like that on steroids. Guy was able to compete with Sting and Kurt Angle then suddenly can barely lay a hand on AJ.
Jesus, with all the Interference in his TNA World Title Matches, He’s like Jeff Jarrett 2.0. God, no wonder why didn’t like this Title reign and I barely even watched it, honestly it’s good to know that NWA managed to make him a Legit Wrestler despite the issues they would later have and it’s nice to know that Nick Aldis has finally made it to WWE, here’s hoping a better run for him in WWE
I remember this run. I stopped watching the show when the Aces went downhill, but at this point I was still reading show transcripts. I remember thinking that it was an interesting take on a heel champion: someone who didn't just need a henchman or two to keep the belt (a la HHH), but an entire army. It made sense, considering they were out of top guys (Sting and Styles being out of the door) and the new generation was still too green to take the torch. Having a transitional champion like that would keep the belt warm, and at the same time was bound to make the next champion a real badass, someone capable of defeating an entire army. Not to mention that a paper champion like that needn't be a big name, or a great wrestler: you could have a midcarder in that position. But yeah, seeing the footage makes it clear that in my head it worked a lot better than it actually did in reality.
The fact Magnus beat Sting, Joe, and Angle clean only for a month later needing 8 different guys to help him beat Sting is insane. How would that ever have helped his image as champion. AJ isn't a dick, I'm sure he would've been fine letting Aldis get a clean win. But no, Dixie had to be the star. Aldis just being a cocky champion who beat a bunch of legends wasn't enough. He needed a faction, an evil boss character, interferences, and bad wins. Isn't this why so many people turned on Jarret a decade before this story.
The title is true. I started watching TNA on 2007 and sticked though every change the company went until these awful matches. My heart broke with the way they fired AJ and Sting and how the matches went.
I think the most overlooked problem with this story is how dumb it makes the Dixie character look. She 's gloating about all her biggest stars are leaving. Granted I recall everything heel Dixie did made no sense, so I guess this was par for the course.
Like, at least while Vince McMahon hated Austin, it took him a year of hostility and battles to actually try to get him fired. At least the Authority had some legit stars on their ranks and thought Daniel Bryan couldn't be a star, and as far as Cena goes, they never tried to fire him (as a matter of fact, he was the only person in the babyface team at the 2014 Survivor Series to not risk termination). The only time they gloated about a big star being gone was with CM Punk, and they only did it when his failures were evident for all to see ("If you keep this up for a couple more minutes you'll last longer than CM Punk has in the octagon").
@brianban. Dixie was the 100% problem with TNA. Bischoff said he had nothing to do with TNA other than being an on air character and Hogan wanted him by his side just in case TNA wanted to bury him (Hogan). Russo was booking TNA for most of their height, the only time Russo wasn’t booking TNA was from 2005 to 2007, Russo returned in 2007 and was fully let go in 2012/2013 ish time. Spike TV blamed everything on Russo though, so much so that they cut ties with TNA in 2013 after hearing Russo was still not fully let go, after Spike TV cut ties that was when Russo fully got let go. Dixie just didn’t know who to trust, she was hearing good things from everyone that she didn’t know who to trust and put faith into. Pritchard also for me has to take some blame, as they hired him in 2010. I mostly blame Dixie and Pritchard.
@@nu-metalfan2654 nah, Hogan and Bischoff are 70% to blame. TNA was making profit before they came in. They took away everything that made TNA standout. Had Dixie hire a bunch of their old friends and family. And made everything about themselves on screen. Now while Dixie is the reason for TNA lasting as long as it did, she is also apart of the reason for its downfall. Specifically when it came to TNA losing their Spike network deal. So she is the other 30%.
Russo was giving TNA its best ratings ever with his storylines like Main Event Mafia which drew TNA its biggest ratings. That was all Russo. Once Hogan, Eric, Flair came in they changed everything, killed MEM and constantly buried Russo. Look at how the ratings plummeted. Russo is a genius who is able to bring in casuals and has a track record of highest ratings in history. Example WWE and TNA. His WCW run was sandbagged with old wrestlers with big contracts not wanting to do any team work or lose fake fights. Russo was handcuffed and still got ratings up from 2.5 to 2.9. Meltzer is a fucking idiot attacking that man and cheering the lowest ratings in history. AEW is stupid not hiring Russo and listening to that idiot Meltzer. The wrestlers are now video gamers with flips. Kurt Angle is 5 star, bret vs austin WM 13 is what a good, realistic wrestling match looks like. Russo is a hero and cuts good promos.
@@nu-metalfan2654 Hogan and Bischoff killed TNA stop lying to yourself they had control over the show Dixie Carter own the show but let Hogan and Eric bischoff do whatever they want Eric the same person that doesn't recall what happened in starrcade 97 or the fingerpoke of doom is lying.80% Hogan and Eric bischoff and 20% Dixie Carter those 3 destroyed TNA
Yup. Around the same time NXT started blowing up and Lucha Underground some time after. AJ left and went to NJPW/ROH which lead to the exposure of NJPW interest in the states which then lead to the Elite and BTE blowing up by the later 2010s which ultimately lead to AEW. A lot of dominos began to fall but if you trace it back it goes back to his awful Aldis run. TNA was NEVER the same when AJ left. TNA was not the "alternative" anymore.
Honestly i think what killed Magnus' run as world champion in TNA was the matches with Styles and Sting having so much help was absolutely ridiculous and made him super weak. They should have had him beat them both clean to establish himself as heel who can handle himself and only aligned with Dixie to get ahead or at least make it more evident earlier. His run could have been so much better than it was but the term paper champion was really bad for him and yes it couldnt be shed since the amount of help would make Tribal Chief blush. He lost the title to Eric Young which was a bit weird in itself since Eric Young was nowhere near ready for that role either. Magnus deserved better in his World Title run cause he really could have established himself but they just decided not to
Eric young unlike Daniel Bryan ended up being an actual good world champion. Daniel was and still is injury prone and retired not soon after wining the belt at mania. Eric young however would have a decent length reign and pretty good feuds with magnus, abyss, EC3, MVP, Samoa Joe, and Kurt angle. And would lead to lashley FINALLY turning heel, and becoming the bad ass destroyer we all knew he could be and beating young for the belt. Was young a Daniel Bryan rip off? Yes. Was he a better champion? Also yes. Two things can be true at the same time.
Oh my word that title is perfect. I was disgusted when TNA allowed AJ Styles to leave (and the way they booked it) and I lasted less than a month after.
Looking back, I will never know how I got through this unbearable TNA era. I’m so happy I did though, the reward for that at the end was The Broken Universe. I dipped from TNA after that, haven’t tuned in full time since
I've started to notice that Abyss is kind of a run killer on the Big Show level. Not that Magnus' main event run needed any help in being killed when he appeared, but still
@@jubeaumont6305 Abyss is my favorite TNA wrestler ever, but you can't argue with tons of dumb booking he endured and repetitve hardcore matches that stopped being something extraordinary in 2009
@Markyd123 hey ever heard of motor madness?? It was a destruction derby tv show they tried to turn into wrestling. Dusty Rhodes was one of the hosts. I loved it when I was younger not sure if it's worth a video but interesting still
I doubt AJ demanded that he look that strong going out. There’s showing respect to your former champ and then there’s sandbagging your next champ. This was the latter.
It's funny how both he and EC3 being stable friends represent Corgen's NWA as world champions at very different aspects. Magnus in this run was horrible and i blame Russo/Carter, while EC3 was very entertaining and commanded the screen as a hungry guy. You couldn't find more diametrically champions
AJ Styles last TNA match being one with 38 run ins/pin break ups…explains why they failed so colossally afterwards… 😂 There’s pushing a wrestler then just stuffing him down your neck just because Dixie Carter thought she knew about wrestling
The title unification match was an overbooked mess of a downright ugly main event on free TV, seriously how did I manage to stick up with the TNA shenanigans both on and off camera for 5 more years before I ultimately stopped watching?
Aldis glowed up at one of the worst times in TNA. The company was leaking money and they were trying to lowball the hell out of Sting and AJ on contract negotiations; Hogan & his pals already killed a lot of interest, Aces & 8's story ate up the whole show at times and went on way way too long and this Aldis run was right before SpikeTV gave them the boot when they found out Russo was back with TNA after specifically telling Dixie not to EVER bring him back.
That title match with AJ was the point of no return for TNA as we knew it then. Sure, AJ was leaving but for Christ sake they could have let him do a match that could saved some grace between him and the company. Everyone knows he would have been happy putting Magnus super over in that match. Instead they reinforced every reason why he was leaving. And AJ *never* came back. Not even for a one off. And that was how TNA’s biggest homegrown star finished his run. Incompetence by the complete definition.
I always liked Aldis. I guess I may be "biased", because I did follow his entire run w/ Billy Corgan's NWA. I very much wanted to see them succeed. Hell, I still want them all to succeed. I hope Corgan's NWA does well with it's new tv show/s and I hope Aldis has a noteworthy stay in WWE. He's off to a pretty good start...
The only Nick Aldis I have known in NWA champ -> forward. The way the man talked about that belt during a promo had me sold from pretty close to minute one. Had never seen him wrestle, was strictly hooked on the character work right from the jump.
I'm very pissed that Nick Aldis is in WWE. Not that he's in WWE, he more than deserves to be in WWE, but that he's not there as an active wrestler. The guy has It. Charismatic, great look, can talk and wrestle. He had the tools, he just didn't get the opportunities. But he did pull Mickie, which isn't bad for a Welsh lad.
It shouldn’t SURPRISE YOU, wwe DESPISES TALENTED WRESTLERS that made their name somewhere else (NWA in this case) and wwe UNcreative gives these Talent Coaches/Producers/Trainers/etc. roles.
@@vickrunalza8057 Uh, what? Seth Rollins, LA Knight, Gunther, Lashley, Chelsea Green, JADE FUCKING CARGILL, Tommaso Ciampa, Johnny Gargano, Kevin Steen, Sami Zayn, Finn Balor, Damien Priest, Bronson Reed, Cody Rhodes, et cetera were all champions somewhere else, including two on this list being former TNA champions. Stop smoking crack. You're already making wrestling fans look dumber.
So they basically did the same booking with Magnus they did in the first half of EC3's run. The diference is that at some point EC3 turned it around and proved that he can win without all that help while in case of Magnus they forgot about that part.
These screw ups from TNA Wrestling management from 2016 to rebranding to Impact Wrestling and being purchased by Anthem Sports and Entertainment and Anthem Sports re-rebrandig Impact Wrestling back to TNA Wrestling in 2024 will ultimately make this promotion better. Why? Because the promotion has been through the high points and low points.
@@Markyd123Magnus' primary finisher is a cloverleaf submission and his secondary finisher is a diving elbow drop. He used these two finishing moves in TNA Wrestling and NWA Wrestling.
TNA managed to become an even bigger mess when Hogan and Bischoff left. Losing Aj, Sting and even the founder of the company Jeff Jarrett had enough of Dixie and left.
This was the exact time I quit watching TNA. I started watching TNA in June of 2007, 2008 was for me the year of TNA, TNA in 2008 was fantastic. I was still watching TNA in 2009 but I was back and forth with TNA and WWE during 2007 to 2009. 2009 TNA just wasn’t as engaging as 2008 was for me. Then Hogan, Bischoff, Flair, Pritchard all arrived in January of 2010 and completely changed the look of TNA, it was still watchable but nowhere near as good, but WWE in 2010 was fucking awful that I quit watching WWE at the time and just focused on TNA. TNA from January 2010 to December 2013 was watchable but nowhere near as good as it used to be. In December 2013, AJ Styles left and by then everyone knew TNA was a sinking ship, and I quit watching as soon as they gave the title to Magnus/Nick Aldis. My issue with Magnus/Nick Aldis was that he had no charisma, he was very bland, but Dixie was extremely high on him for some reason.
Nothing wrong with a weaselly, undeserving heel taking shortcuts to win matches they don't deserve to...but TNA really overdid it with the sheer amount of help he needed. It'd have been more effective to get heat if he was a capable wrestler who could win matches properly if he wanted to, but chose to take shortcuts and cheat instead, the crowd would hate him more instead of being bored. As it was he was presented as useless without help and that's just a recipe for go away heat. Also, contrast the TNA exits of Sting and AJ Styles with Hogan. Dixie involved in all 3, but only Hogan managed to book it so the boss was clinging to his leg and begging him to stay, while Sting and AJ were unceremoniously dropped. Don't know if Hogan is really smart or Dixie is really dumb.
I remember thinking his championship match with Joe was gonna switch things around. Is a shame really because by turning Magnus heel they just made him weak.
Being Dixie's hookup would one of the best gigs a guy could get. She's not bad looking for her age, and she's absolutely terrible at managing her money.
Dixie gang was something i liked, it led to ec3 who is emblematic of TNA and should be back as the main star now and the bully v Dixie and co was great. The storyline actually went somewhere and ended so it was a good thing. I also love that Sting was always willing to put people over clean. He was a guy who was great for TNA, along with Angle. Those two must have been so angry to have the creative control gang turn up. Edit: id forgotten that AJ match and how much Dixie dominated the show. Terrible.
He is an excellent wrestler, and your score is fair. It is criminal how they booked him. Why even have a champion, if that is how the champion is booked over and over again.
Once Dixie Carter started being on screen more and turned heel with the Dixieland storyline plus with AJ Styles, Sting, and all the major names began departing, that’s when I started falling off from TNA. Dixie Carter almost destroyed Impact because of her ego and this horrendous run.
A wild moment in this video was me realizing that I had seen his title reign before. Going into this, I thought I missed this era of TNA. But then you mentioned MVP being the mystery authority, and it hit me like a ton of bricks that I was watching Impact around this time, and I remember a lot of the ongoing feuds around this title picture, but completely blanked on the title reign itself.
I remember reading about it once but during the 1st month or so Magnus was injured *I think a Cuncussion sorry for bad spelling* so that's why he had so many interference as I also believe they were pre recorded but yeah I don't know what happened for he to keep getting interference spots once he got better?
The AJ v Magnus match was taped in December 2013, but didn’t air until February 2014. I was at the ROH taping on January 4th 2014 where AJ wrestled Roderick Strong.
When Magnus is talking in the ring and you watch the crowd it shows why he should never have been at the top of the card. TNA had WWF disease of pushes based on who they wanted to rise rather than based on who was over. What is Magnus' finisher? He never had a signature in any way.
I still can’t believe this is how they booked their 1st British World Champ in 100 years. I’m American & I still feel insulted. That Styles match was more overbooked than WCW in the year 2000 & the fact that he lost his title to the Santino Marella of TNA Eric Young, just as a cheap way to copy WWE with Daniel Bryan was the final straw for me. I would tune back to TNA from time to time until their Spike TV deal ended, but I mostly just watched clips & reviews on TH-cam. I never took Magnus seriously every again after this & him leaving TNA was the best thing to have happened to him, as his run in NWA helped revived his career.
There's a level interference and unclean finishes, but the absurdity at which he beat Styles & Sting back to back, along with the Dixieland title win being a poor maych too, I wasn't even on the IWC then I just watched TNA on Challenge and even my 15 year old mark self could recognize how awful the product was, and that's without the loss of Styles/Sting. I never watched it again after the Sting match.
That long pin on Sting and Dixie gloating were annoying and most of their talent rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it was the shirtless look with tiny briefs and the smug faces/ boy band haircuts Some good wrestling though from all I saw and Kurt Angle did great on there
I think and you touched on it in the end this was a booking issue overall- As compare Magnus TNA title run with Nick Aldis as the National Treasure with his two NWA World title runs is night and day in those runs Aldis was firing on all cylinders and there wasn't any stupid booking. Id love to see you look at his NWA reigns as most people sadly never saw it but my goodness it was on a whole other level
The only people who benefited from the Dixie land stable were EC3 and rock star spud. Seriously EC3 and rockstar spud were absolutely brilliant together as a comedy duo, their chemistry was unmatched. And when EC3 eventually turned on spud and their relationship turned serious, both guys stole the whole damn show that night in the hair vs streak match and EC3 put over spud on the mic, pretended to bury the hatchet with him, and then knock him out and shave him while he was bloody and unconscious in front of spuds own mom. Eric young unlike Daniel Bryan ended up being an actual good champion. Daniel was and still is injury prone and retired not soon after wining the belt at mania. Eric young however would have a decent length reign and pretty good feuds with magnus, abyss, EC3, MVP, Samoa Joe, and Kurt angle. And would lead to lashley FINALLY turning heel, and becoming the bad ass destroyer we all knew he could be and beating young for the belt. Was young a Daniel Bryan rip off? Yes. Was he a better champion? Also yes. Two things can be true at the same time.
AJ was leaving so why did they book him so strongly going out instead of having Magnus beat AJ clean, they just made him look so incredibly weak specially when there were arguably better people to carry the belt like Angle or Joe.
Magnus wasn't the problem. It was heel Dixie Carter. If they just let Magnus be his own guy, it would have worked much better.
The biggest problem with heel Dixie was that nothing she ever did made any sense. All her actions served no in story function other than being evil, despite Dixie not being portrayed as an evil for evil's sake character.
I thought that Dixie Carter wanted to be more like Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley
Yeah, the reign felt like an excuse to give Dixie more heat going into her feud with Bully Ray which was one of the better things of the year.
Or have Dixie be a big factor to his success and then magnus hates her and breaks away and turns face and then makes a promo about how he has to prove himself to hid fans because he got there due to Dixie
He WAS part of the problem, but not really his fault. At the time Nick was still pretty green, putting the main belt on a guy that was green as grass is never a good idea. Yes there are times that it does work (Goldberg comes to my mind) but Nick was booked as primarily a midcarder for most of his time with TNA, he wasn't pushed to the moon from the start, and never really had a metoric rise in the company.
That Styles/Magnus match had so many run-ins, even Slapnuts and Vince Russo thought there were too many.
Dixie is a bigger idiot than Vince Russo and Jeff Jarrett
They sent the entire advengers against aj😂😂💀
AJ got a WWE spot out of it!
@@TopFloorTy they made that man look like Thanos with how much he kicked out of finishers 😂😂
The booking was very weird. Suddenly Magnus turns heel and at the same time loses the ability to win a match without 8 other wrestlers. But I've honestly always loved Magnus/Nick Aldis promos. Very concise and to the point with elements of my personal fav mic worker of all-time, Nick Bockwinkel.
Honestly it's never made any sense how wrestlers who were previously portrayed as tough magically lose all their fighting ability when they turn heel.
Yeah like even when the heel face dynamic was swapped between two rivals then the guy who was the original face resorts to cheating or numbers game. I guess if the right story telling makes sense but I guess it's just a wrestling thing.
It was literally to give Dixie more heat and you can't tell me otherwise.
That's most heel turns tbh
I know that's common heel practice, but this is like that on steroids. Guy was able to compete with Sting and Kurt Angle then suddenly can barely lay a hand on AJ.
Being a horrible wrestler is one thing, but being a good wrestler and be badly booked is criminal
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@@alonelypotato2788 Annie, are you ok?
A good example is Dolph Ziggler
@@abarasch523 Are u ok Annie?
@@alonelypotato2788You've been booked by, you've been buried by a smooth criminal.
Jesus, with all the Interference in his TNA World Title Matches, He’s like Jeff Jarrett 2.0.
God, no wonder why didn’t like this Title reign and I barely even watched it, honestly it’s good to know that NWA managed to make him a Legit Wrestler despite the issues they would later have and it’s nice to know that Nick Aldis has finally made it to WWE, here’s hoping a better run for him in WWE
Aldis is a class act. Loved his pre-pandemic NWA run. Superb stuff
I remember this run. I stopped watching the show when the Aces went downhill, but at this point I was still reading show transcripts. I remember thinking that it was an interesting take on a heel champion: someone who didn't just need a henchman or two to keep the belt (a la HHH), but an entire army. It made sense, considering they were out of top guys (Sting and Styles being out of the door) and the new generation was still too green to take the torch. Having a transitional champion like that would keep the belt warm, and at the same time was bound to make the next champion a real badass, someone capable of defeating an entire army. Not to mention that a paper champion like that needn't be a big name, or a great wrestler: you could have a midcarder in that position.
But yeah, seeing the footage makes it clear that in my head it worked a lot better than it actually did in reality.
The fact Magnus beat Sting, Joe, and Angle clean only for a month later needing 8 different guys to help him beat Sting is insane.
How would that ever have helped his image as champion. AJ isn't a dick, I'm sure he would've been fine letting Aldis get a clean win.
But no, Dixie had to be the star. Aldis just being a cocky champion who beat a bunch of legends wasn't enough.
He needed a faction, an evil boss character, interferences, and bad wins. Isn't this why so many people turned on Jarret a decade before this story.
having him beat aj styles in his last tna match was a slap on the face
The title is true. I started watching TNA on 2007 and sticked though every change the company went until these awful matches. My heart broke with the way they fired AJ and Sting and how the matches went.
I think the most overlooked problem with this story is how dumb it makes the Dixie character look. She 's gloating about all her biggest stars are leaving.
Granted I recall everything heel Dixie did made no sense, so I guess this was par for the course.
Like, at least while Vince McMahon hated Austin, it took him a year of hostility and battles to actually try to get him fired. At least the Authority had some legit stars on their ranks and thought Daniel Bryan couldn't be a star, and as far as Cena goes, they never tried to fire him (as a matter of fact, he was the only person in the babyface team at the 2014 Survivor Series to not risk termination). The only time they gloated about a big star being gone was with CM Punk, and they only did it when his failures were evident for all to see ("If you keep this up for a couple more minutes you'll last longer than CM Punk has in the octagon").
I never hated or blamed him i blame Dixie, Bischoff, Hogan and Russo for the down fall of TNA/Impact
@brianban. Dixie was the 100% problem with TNA. Bischoff said he had nothing to do with TNA other than being an on air character and Hogan wanted him by his side just in case TNA wanted to bury him (Hogan).
Russo was booking TNA for most of their height, the only time Russo wasn’t booking TNA was from 2005 to 2007, Russo returned in 2007 and was fully let go in 2012/2013 ish time.
Spike TV blamed everything on Russo though, so much so that they cut ties with TNA in 2013 after hearing Russo was still not fully let go, after Spike TV cut ties that was when Russo fully got let go.
Dixie just didn’t know who to trust, she was hearing good things from everyone that she didn’t know who to trust and put faith into.
Pritchard also for me has to take some blame, as they hired him in 2010.
I mostly blame Dixie and Pritchard.
@@nu-metalfan2654 nah, Hogan and Bischoff are 70% to blame. TNA was making profit before they came in. They took away everything that made TNA standout. Had Dixie hire a bunch of their old friends and family. And made everything about themselves on screen.
Now while Dixie is the reason for TNA lasting as long as it did, she is also apart of the reason for its downfall. Specifically when it came to TNA losing their Spike network deal. So she is the other 30%.
Hes not very good though
Russo was giving TNA its best ratings ever with his storylines like Main Event Mafia which drew TNA its
biggest ratings. That was all Russo. Once Hogan, Eric, Flair came in they changed everything, killed MEM
and constantly buried Russo. Look at how the ratings plummeted. Russo is a genius who is able to bring in
casuals and has a track record of highest ratings in history. Example WWE and TNA. His WCW run was
sandbagged with old wrestlers with big contracts not wanting to do any team work or lose fake fights.
Russo was handcuffed and still got ratings up from 2.5 to 2.9. Meltzer is a fucking idiot attacking that man
and cheering the lowest ratings in history. AEW is stupid not hiring Russo and listening to that idiot Meltzer.
The wrestlers are now video gamers with flips. Kurt Angle is 5 star, bret vs austin WM 13 is what a good, realistic
wrestling match looks like. Russo is a hero and cuts good promos.
@@nu-metalfan2654 Hogan and Bischoff killed TNA stop lying to yourself they had control over the show Dixie Carter own the show but let Hogan and Eric bischoff do whatever they want Eric the same person that doesn't recall what happened in starrcade 97 or the fingerpoke of doom is lying.80% Hogan and Eric bischoff and 20% Dixie Carter those 3 destroyed TNA
Yup. Around the same time NXT started blowing up and Lucha Underground some time after. AJ left and went to NJPW/ROH which lead to the exposure of NJPW interest in the states which then lead to the Elite and BTE blowing up by the later 2010s which ultimately lead to AEW. A lot of dominos began to fall but if you trace it back it goes back to his awful Aldis run. TNA was NEVER the same when AJ left. TNA was not the "alternative" anymore.
Honestly i think what killed Magnus' run as world champion in TNA was the matches with Styles and Sting having so much help was absolutely ridiculous and made him super weak. They should have had him beat them both clean to establish himself as heel who can handle himself and only aligned with Dixie to get ahead or at least make it more evident earlier. His run could have been so much better than it was but the term paper champion was really bad for him and yes it couldnt be shed since the amount of help would make Tribal Chief blush.
He lost the title to Eric Young which was a bit weird in itself since Eric Young was nowhere near ready for that role either. Magnus deserved better in his World Title run cause he really could have established himself but they just decided not to
He also wasnt main event level
Eric young unlike Daniel Bryan ended up being an actual good world champion. Daniel was and still is injury prone and retired not soon after wining the belt at mania. Eric young however would have a decent length reign and pretty good feuds with magnus, abyss, EC3, MVP, Samoa Joe, and Kurt angle. And would lead to lashley FINALLY turning heel, and becoming the bad ass destroyer we all knew he could be and beating young for the belt. Was young a Daniel Bryan rip off? Yes. Was he a better champion? Also yes. Two things can be true at the same time.
Oh my word that title is perfect. I was disgusted when TNA allowed AJ Styles to leave (and the way they booked it) and I lasted less than a month after.
Looking back, I will never know how I got through this unbearable TNA era. I’m so happy I did though, the reward for that at the end was The Broken Universe. I dipped from TNA after that, haven’t tuned in full time since
magnus is the ultimate proof that you can win the belt, beat all the established stars and still be misused
I've started to notice that Abyss is kind of a run killer on the Big Show level. Not that Magnus' main event run needed any help in being killed when he appeared, but still
Yea whenever a random bodyguard/backer was needed it was always abyss.
Am I the only person that actually likes abyss ?
@@jubeaumont6305 Abyss is my favorite TNA wrestler ever, but you can't argue with tons of dumb booking he endured and repetitve hardcore matches that stopped being something extraordinary in 2009
@@kashtan1523
True. But that's not his fault ! 👍
@Markyd123 hey ever heard of motor madness?? It was a destruction derby tv show they tried to turn into wrestling. Dusty Rhodes was one of the hosts. I loved it when I was younger not sure if it's worth a video but interesting still
This reign was exactly why I initially scoffed at the idea of Nick Aldis being the NWA World’s Heavyweight Champion
When Nick Aldis was booked the Jinder Mahal of TNA
Roman Reigns*
If Nick then became a good wrestler in NWA, let Jinder in NWA maybe he'll be good to
@@kerv7711 Like he summoned the Great Khali as his Bobby Roode.
Except watching Randy Orton destroy The Bollywood Boys was more entertaining than anything about Magnus's TNA Championship run.
@@kerv7711 Jinder pioneered the Roman reigns formula. He walked so that Roman could run
I doubt AJ demanded that he look that strong going out. There’s showing respect to your former champ and then there’s sandbagging your next champ. This was the latter.
It's funny how both he and EC3 being stable friends represent Corgen's NWA as world champions at very different aspects. Magnus in this run was horrible and i blame Russo/Carter, while EC3 was very entertaining and commanded the screen as a hungry guy. You couldn't find more diametrically champions
Watching Dixie makes me realize that we're on the brink of a Tony Kahn on-screen heel run.
Oh God, it’s worse than I remembered. They booked him under at every turn.
AJ Styles last TNA match being one with 38 run ins/pin break ups…explains why they failed so colossally afterwards… 😂
There’s pushing a wrestler then just stuffing him down your neck just because Dixie Carter thought she knew about wrestling
The Broken Hardy's made me watch it again and then when Matt and Jeff were gone from TNA or whatever, really good stuff
You always do a great job with these videos! I remember living thru all this & it’s honestly even more horrendous now.
The problem was not Magnus. I was actually glad he became a champion. Thd problem was Dixie and disappointment about departure of AJ Styles and Sting.
The title unification match was an overbooked mess of a downright ugly main event on free TV, seriously how did I manage to stick up with the TNA shenanigans both on and off camera for 5 more years before I ultimately stopped watching?
When AJ lost like that, I quit TNA
Funny story when I was watching TNA around 2010-2014 i thought magnus and matt Morgan were twins for someone reason 🤣
Aldis glowed up at one of the worst times in TNA. The company was leaking money and they were trying to lowball the hell out of Sting and AJ on contract negotiations; Hogan & his pals already killed a lot of interest, Aces & 8's story ate up the whole show at times and went on way way too long and this Aldis run was right before SpikeTV gave them the boot when they found out Russo was back with TNA after specifically telling Dixie not to EVER bring him back.
That title match with AJ was the point of no return for TNA as we knew it then. Sure, AJ was leaving but for Christ sake they could have let him do a match that could saved some grace between him and the company. Everyone knows he would have been happy putting Magnus super over in that match.
Instead they reinforced every reason why he was leaving. And AJ *never* came back. Not even for a one off. And that was how TNA’s biggest homegrown star finished his run.
Incompetence by the complete definition.
I always liked Aldis. I guess I may be "biased", because I did follow his entire run w/ Billy Corgan's NWA. I very much wanted to see them succeed. Hell, I still want them all to succeed. I hope Corgan's NWA does well with it's new tv show/s and I hope Aldis has a noteworthy stay in WWE. He's off to a pretty good start...
The only Nick Aldis I have known in NWA champ -> forward. The way the man talked about that belt during a promo had me sold from pretty close to minute one. Had never seen him wrestle, was strictly hooked on the character work right from the jump.
Aldis earned his stripes as nwa champ, he looked the part and everyone considered him credible
@@TheRealAhoylol small fish, smaller pond
Hes a gm in wwe, nothing really noteworthy
@@jamespaul6315 It's called respect for people in the industry 👍
Here's hoping we get a proper Magnus vs AJ styles match now that both men are in the WWE but I doubt it'll ever happen
I'm very pissed that Nick Aldis is in WWE. Not that he's in WWE, he more than deserves to be in WWE, but that he's not there as an active wrestler. The guy has It. Charismatic, great look, can talk and wrestle. He had the tools, he just didn't get the opportunities. But he did pull Mickie, which isn't bad for a Welsh lad.
I really agree with this sentiment. I hope he gets to wrestle at some point in WWE.
It shouldn’t SURPRISE YOU, wwe DESPISES TALENTED WRESTLERS that made their name somewhere else (NWA in this case) and wwe UNcreative gives these Talent Coaches/Producers/Trainers/etc. roles.
@@vickrunalza8057 because Seth Rollins, Gunther, Dragunov, Iyo, multiple people in title scenes & hell, even Rhea never wrestled outside EVIL FED.😂
He's not Welsh, you donut. He's from Norfolk. Hell, his cloverleaf finisher was called "Kings Lynn Cross," which is a reference to where he's from.
@@vickrunalza8057 Uh, what? Seth Rollins, LA Knight, Gunther, Lashley, Chelsea Green, JADE FUCKING CARGILL, Tommaso Ciampa, Johnny Gargano, Kevin Steen, Sami Zayn, Finn Balor, Damien Priest, Bronson Reed, Cody Rhodes, et cetera were all champions somewhere else, including two on this list being former TNA champions.
Stop smoking crack. You're already making wrestling fans look dumber.
So they basically did the same booking with Magnus they did in the first half of EC3's run. The diference is that at some point EC3 turned it around and proved that he can win without all that help while in case of Magnus they forgot about that part.
These screw ups from TNA Wrestling management from 2016 to rebranding to Impact Wrestling and being purchased by Anthem Sports and Entertainment and Anthem Sports re-rebrandig Impact Wrestling back to TNA Wrestling in 2024 will ultimately make this promotion better. Why? Because the promotion has been through the high points and low points.
I miss old school TNA!!
This makes JBL's title run look like gold on paper
This was the angle that made me almost quit TNA. It wasn't the Aces & Eights storyline, but Dixieland and the ridiculous way Magnus was booked.
I was gonna finish this comment....but all the TNA heels rushed me and Magnus went over
Once EC3 and Spud came in to the picture i felt like TNA started going downhill but they definitely bounced back since then
Which is weird cuz neither of them were bad. It was all the other jabrobis getting tv time.
@@Markyd123Magnus' primary finisher is a cloverleaf submission and his secondary finisher is a diving elbow drop. He used these two finishing moves in TNA Wrestling and NWA Wrestling.
magnus looks like he paints his beard on with a spray painter.
Not the worst wrestler but my goodness, the booking. I got war flashbacks from the forums lol
I remember the like vs dislike ratio on the AJ Styles match on TH-cam
What was it 😂😂😂
Still remember him as "Oblivion" in the ill fated UK gladiators reboot. what a career this guy has had.
Tna has aged well. It's weird how perception changes things.
What? it went from a srsly proper show, to a glorified Bingohall.
TNA managed to become an even bigger mess when Hogan and Bischoff left. Losing Aj, Sting and even the founder of the company Jeff Jarrett had enough of Dixie and left.
Imagine the GM Aldis and Pearce feuding and a match happens lmao
This was the exact time I quit watching TNA. I started watching TNA in June of 2007, 2008 was for me the year of TNA, TNA in 2008 was fantastic. I was still watching TNA in 2009 but I was back and forth with TNA and WWE during 2007 to 2009. 2009 TNA just wasn’t as engaging as 2008 was for me.
Then Hogan, Bischoff, Flair, Pritchard all arrived in January of 2010 and completely changed the look of TNA, it was still watchable but nowhere near as good, but WWE in 2010 was fucking awful that I quit watching WWE at the time and just focused on TNA. TNA from January 2010 to December 2013 was watchable but nowhere near as good as it used to be.
In December 2013, AJ Styles left and by then everyone knew TNA was a sinking ship, and I quit watching as soon as they gave the title to Magnus/Nick Aldis.
My issue with Magnus/Nick Aldis was that he had no charisma, he was very bland, but Dixie was extremely high on him for some reason.
The match with AJ is the equivalence of The Fiend vs Seth Rollins at HIAC 2019
Nothing wrong with a weaselly, undeserving heel taking shortcuts to win matches they don't deserve to...but TNA really overdid it with the sheer amount of help he needed. It'd have been more effective to get heat if he was a capable wrestler who could win matches properly if he wanted to, but chose to take shortcuts and cheat instead, the crowd would hate him more instead of being bored. As it was he was presented as useless without help and that's just a recipe for go away heat. Also, contrast the TNA exits of Sting and AJ Styles with Hogan. Dixie involved in all 3, but only Hogan managed to book it so the boss was clinging to his leg and begging him to stay, while Sting and AJ were unceremoniously dropped. Don't know if Hogan is really smart or Dixie is really dumb.
That magnus vs styles match..... holy sheet....i must of burned it from my memory
Abyss with no mask looks kinda cursed, LOL.
Can’t believe how far Aldis has come from Oblivion to the WWE.
I remember his title run in TNA. Those were some challenging and head scratching times. 2013-2014 were weird but good years for TNA
I remember thinking his championship match with Joe was gonna switch things around. Is a shame really because by turning Magnus heel they just made him weak.
Being Dixie's hookup would one of the best gigs a guy could get. She's not bad looking for her age, and she's absolutely terrible at managing her money.
Dixie gang was something i liked, it led to ec3 who is emblematic of TNA and should be back as the main star now and the bully v Dixie and co was great. The storyline actually went somewhere and ended so it was a good thing.
I also love that Sting was always willing to put people over clean. He was a guy who was great for TNA, along with Angle. Those two must have been so angry to have the creative control gang turn up.
Edit: id forgotten that AJ match and how much Dixie dominated the show. Terrible.
10:15 Styles leaving after this was so fitting for the state of TNA
I was just about tuning out of tna about that time, but honestly, I liked magnus as British invasion and as main event wrestler
How bad do you have to be on the card where Jaxson Ryker is a capable contender?
I thought he was a paper champ and this was the point it hurt to watch TNA. Felt like I watching I loved watching for a decade at that time die
You should do a ring of the hawk video on his 2023 run with the company
Excellent video
He is an excellent wrestler, and your score is fair. It is criminal how they booked him. Why even have a champion, if that is how the champion is booked over and over again.
Madness init
15:20 Man wtf 😂😂😂 why was Samoa Joe making evil eyes while doing the submission 😂😂
This was actually when I quit watching. Dixie was just unwatchable.
Now do one on Eric Young in WWE! ☝🏾
Those tournaments used to be good, giving everyone matches with purpose. TNA was so great.
Once Dixie Carter started being on screen more and turned heel with the Dixieland storyline plus with AJ Styles, Sting, and all the major names began departing, that’s when I started falling off from TNA. Dixie Carter almost destroyed Impact because of her ego and this horrendous run.
Within a span of 3 months they lost Hogan (good ridance), Sting and Aj Styles
Wasn't the biggest fan of it but hes NWA days really redeemed him for me
A wild moment in this video was me realizing that I had seen his title reign before. Going into this, I thought I missed this era of TNA. But then you mentioned MVP being the mystery authority, and it hit me like a ton of bricks that I was watching Impact around this time, and I remember a lot of the ongoing feuds around this title picture, but completely blanked on the title reign itself.
I missed the TNA part and thought you were talking about the NWA.
Man the TNA crowd in those days has no reaction
I remember reading about it once but during the 1st month or so Magnus was injured *I think a Cuncussion sorry for bad spelling* so that's why he had so many interference as I also believe they were pre recorded but yeah I don't know what happened for he to keep getting interference spots once he got better?
Yeah I remember this. This is why I stopped watching TNA
Was he a better Ring Ka King champion?
Yes
A -29 final tally sounds absolutely terrible
Should really review his nwa run. It was incredibly good
The AJ v Magnus match was taped in December 2013, but didn’t air until February 2014. I was at the ROH taping on January 4th 2014 where AJ wrestled Roderick Strong.
I just quit watching because AJ left. He was the heart and soul of TNA.
When Magnus is talking in the ring and you watch the crowd it shows why he should never have been at the top of the card. TNA had WWF disease of pushes based on who they wanted to rise rather than based on who was over. What is Magnus' finisher? He never had a signature in any way.
Lord. That version of MEM was the drizzling shits
I remember watching tna for a little back then I didn’t know this is the reason aj and sting left smh
This reminds me of Jinder Mahal's main event push from 2017. It was just as random and just as jarring.
At least they made jinder look like a force for the most part
Well since you're on and I have a great idea you could do MVPs career in tna
I still can’t believe this is how they booked their 1st British World Champ in 100 years. I’m American & I still feel insulted.
That Styles match was more overbooked than WCW in the year 2000 & the fact that he lost his title to the Santino Marella of TNA Eric Young, just as a cheap way to copy WWE with Daniel Bryan was the final straw for me. I would tune back to TNA from time to time until their Spike TV deal ended, but I mostly just watched clips & reviews on TH-cam.
I never took Magnus seriously every again after this & him leaving TNA was the best thing to have happened to him, as his run in NWA helped revived his career.
So, in a nutshell, Nick Aldis as a worker was fine but the material TNA gave him to work with was dogballicks.
Such is TNA in the 2010's.
There's a level interference and unclean finishes, but the absurdity at which he beat Styles & Sting back to back, along with the Dixieland title win being a poor maych too, I wasn't even on the IWC then I just watched TNA on Challenge and even my 15 year old mark self could recognize how awful the product was, and that's without the loss of Styles/Sting. I never watched it again after the Sting match.
It's like tna was being bad on purpose to see if they could get away with it
Nick Aldis's run as the gladiator Brutus Magnus is funnily appropriate considering he was Oblivion on the reboot for UK Gladiators
“I honestly don’t even know what Magnus’s finisher is at this point. Does he even have one?” Made me legitimately laugh out loud
That long pin on Sting and Dixie gloating were annoying and most of their talent rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it was the shirtless look with tiny briefs and the smug faces/ boy band haircuts Some good wrestling though from all I saw and Kurt Angle did great on there
I think and you touched on it in the end this was a booking issue overall- As compare Magnus TNA title run with Nick Aldis as the National Treasure with his two NWA World title runs is night and day in those runs Aldis was firing on all cylinders and there wasn't any stupid booking. Id love to see you look at his NWA reigns as most people sadly never saw it but my goodness it was on a whole other level
The only people who benefited from the Dixie land stable were EC3 and rock star spud. Seriously EC3 and rockstar spud were absolutely brilliant together as a comedy duo, their chemistry was unmatched. And when EC3 eventually turned on spud and their relationship turned serious, both guys stole the whole damn show that night in the hair vs streak match and EC3 put over spud on the mic, pretended to bury the hatchet with him, and then knock him out and shave him while he was bloody and unconscious in front of spuds own mom.
Eric young unlike Daniel Bryan ended up being an actual good champion. Daniel was and still is injury prone and retired not soon after wining the belt at mania. Eric young however would have a decent length reign and pretty good feuds with magnus, abyss, EC3, MVP, Samoa Joe, and Kurt angle. And would lead to lashley FINALLY turning heel, and becoming the bad ass destroyer we all knew he could be and beating young for the belt. Was young a Daniel Bryan rip off? Yes. Was he a better champion? Also yes. Two things can be true at the same time.
Nick Aldis as TNA World CHAMP could've been soooo much more
Eventually he had a chance to be great in NWA.
@volodymyrbilyk555 I got 1 of his hand signed 1000 pics to celebrate his 1000 days as champ
AJ was leaving so why did they book him so strongly going out instead of having Magnus beat AJ clean, they just made him look so incredibly weak specially when there were arguably better people to carry the belt like Angle or Joe.
Damn that title was so spot on, I only recently came back