HOT SADDLE HUNTING TIP: Turn Your Carabiner Into A Prusik Tender
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- You don’t need a mechanical ascender or prusik tender for safe one-handed tether/lineman operation. Ditch the gadgets without spending any more $$. This blew my mind when I first saw it!
UPDATE: Due to the comments posted (we're always learning & growing, that's why we watch youtube videos right?!?) I have changed my knots to double fisherman's. The lineman in the video is stock from XOP, so I clearly am not the only one who was running it like this. Plus every other stock rope I've had in the past came from the factory overhand knot in the prusik SO...??? Here's to safer climbing!
Fueled by the Outdoors is the original poster I mention in the video:
/ @themobilehuntersexpo
That was 5 minutes of my life well spent. Going to give that a try. Thank you!!
Great job. My 2 cents on this, I would tie a double fisherman's knot at the end of the prusik. The fisherman’s knot will handle the stress of a fall better. Otherwise great video.
Actually just re-tied my prusiks today based on that same advice from someone else 👍🏼. Always learning & tweaking!
If I didn't see this comment I was gonna mention it haha
@@icultivatebooks props to you for reading comments before posting! It’s apparently not a common trait…haha!
Is there a video showing what you mean? Just curious can’t seem to find anything about a fisherman’s knot at the end of a prusik
Nvm think I found what you mean
Great video man…that looks very similar to what I do 😂 keep spreading the word!
The only thing I would add to the video is make sure that you don’t have much slack in your knot, because if your knot goes through the carabiner then when you let go it’s gonna work in reverse all the way down the tree lol
Haha! Yeah. It’s not something I’m ever doing blindly without watching it either. That would be a fun ride down to the stopper knot 😳
Hey man what ropes are you using? This trick works great for my lineman belt because I don’t put much weight on it, but with my tether when I put all my weight into it the prussick gets too tight to tend one handed.
- Awesome! Thanks for sharing sir! I love TH-cam University!
@Jeremy Byng nice video; good tip, and well produced. Based on how well those prusik loops slid on your main lines, I'ld say that you found an optimal pairing for rope sizes. That said, talking about your safety here, I couldn't really tell how those prusik loops were terminated -> if those were overhand knots to close them off, then that's a clear no-go; those need to be a figure-8, or a double fishermans. The issue with an overhand knot is that they tend to roll, and it looks like you have less than an inch of tail after that knot [ scared the hell out of me, for your sake ]. If I were you, I would address those immediately.
Secondly, your tending method should NOT be attempted with a screw-gate carabiner; and really should be done on the spine-side of the carabiner to avoid accidentally opening the gate.
Thanks
@@jerbyng also as someone who professionally and recreationally uses ropes (arborist and rock climber) I strongly suggest giving yourself a longer tail on the end of your prusik knot. it looks very short on camera, knots will work themselves a little bit loose over time and usage so leaving at least an inch or two of tail will save your life. just looking out for ya bud, happy hunting!
exactly. Prusik ends have to be joined with double fisherman knots.
@@andrecharlebois705 that’s what I was taught. I’ve seen lots of JRB videos and he’s very safe with years of experience and he recommends a hunters bend. It’s a whole lot easier to tie and untie to adjust or what not but very secure. Probably 5 seconds once you get hang of it. I’ve used the hunters bend on probably about 30 climbs now and always inspect carefully and they don’t budge. Of course I still leave a few inches.
Well done mate use what you have on you to solve a problem gear can get lost or broken this method keeps the weight of your equipment down and the hunter safe Awesome
Lot of comments about termination which should be offset so biner doesn’t rest on knot regardless of type
Awesome video! Never thought of this!!
Why hasn't this video gotten 6M views??? This technique is slicker than snot on a doorknob! Ingenious! Thank you!
DAMN BRO THAT HELPS SO MUCH
try a kleimherst prusik sometime . it doesn't get stuck as standard prusiks can .
Am a arborist and I can tell you that’s a good way to f up your carabiner that your putting your life on spend the 15 bucks and get the right gear don’t by a cheap ass with your life line and if you watch this thinking about it don’t do you Ben warned by a professional climbing don’t do it
Wow, I was going to try this so thanks for the warning!!
Can you explain how this is going to f up his carabiner exactly?
nice. thanks for posting
Wow that's crazy and had not ever thought of doing that. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing!
Slicker than owl snot 👍
That’s awesome, I never thought about it that way!!
Thank you for this simple, yet very effective prusik configuration.
What is a good length for a tether, I am 5 ft 9 in tall the trees that I am looking at to climb are basket ball size or so give or take.?
Gotta try it.. I'm literally sitting here making a tender as I write this
I recognize your tether rope from Amazon. I have the same rope. I also use a prusick to tend my tether
Good video! Your tail on your knots should be 4x the diameter of your rope as a rule. I see you’re double tied in but I imagine there’s a time when you aren’t!
Look on jrb tree climbing and saddle hunting, jrb soft bridge mode, or jrb non jamming variant, they are self tending ascending hitch, and works better then a prusik
I hope im mistaken, but are you using paracord for your main prusik?
That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw this vid
Thanks for the tip! I'll be doing this
Keep safe out there folks. Look up stationary rope systems for climbing trees. The stitch hitch would be better all you need is a ring. Low and slow on new gear and techniques. Just my opinion 🙂. Happy hunting.🙂🪓
Thank you for this!!!
I will be doing that from now on.
Thanks for the tip!!
Game changer!!!
Saddle accessory companies hate him…
Your prussik should be smaller diameter cord than what it is used around in order for it to work. You risk it failing in a fall if it's the same as your rope. Stay safe.
What you see on the lineman’s is stock from XOP. 9mm rope and 7mm Prusik
Glad I didn't buy a ropeman. First I found out I could use a simple loop. Now I see you don't even need that. I'll have to test the biner method first to see how smooth it is. I know the loop method is pretty smooth. Either way the prusik is cheaper, safer and quieter than a mechanical device.
What termination knots are you using on your prusiks? Is it just an overhand knot? A double fisherman's or hunters bend is generally preferred.
Thanks. I have switched to fisherman’s since posting.
U should try a micro pulley
Thank you.
How much rope do I need to tie the prusik note on the tehrd? And what size rope are you using?
If you read a bunch of the comments on the video you’ll find lots of advice on knots. This is the prusik that came with the XOP saddle setup and I have since changed both of them to a different prusik and tied them with double fisherman’s knots instead of the unsafe overhand knots it came with.
I am now using 10mm tether with an 8mm prusik, and a 8mm lineman’s with a 6mm prusik.
good idea, but try with a michoacan or a machard friction hitches, with the two ears into the carabiner, the rope allways goes on the midle / hugs for you man
Use a distel hitch instead of prusik
Look into a valdotain tress tended with a small pulley. It's much easier and won't jam like a regular prussik. It's very popular with arborist and canyoneer people. Also known as a VT
He could get him a Rope Runner Pro or better yet a Ronin Lift Power Ascender.
@@kurtdussander4944 the rope runner pro is awesome! I've used it and it kicks ass. The power ascender really eats ropes. A small pulley and VT would only be $40-50 and I've used that system for years in trees and it's always easy to adjust and safety rated. Everything being tested and rated is worth the money if your climbing high enough that a fall could kill you. Just my 2 cents
@@kevingeary1472 I’ve never used the power ascender,, it’s about $4000.00 . You are right about the rope runner pro though, it’s an amazing device for working in a tree. Arborist gear has came a very long way from where I started using knots to swing around in a tree while wearing the most uncomfortable belt n spikes imaginable. Setting a rope to walk up was unheard of then and you just spiked up the tree. Your safety lanyard better be adjusted on the ground because they were nearly impossible to do anything with once you got up in the tree.
Paracord prusik on your tether?? Never seen anyone do that
it's actually a 6mm prusik on an 11mm rope. The angle makes it looks smaller than it is. But you can read through some comments and see what I've changed since shooting this. Using different/safer ropes and knots now, but the concept still works great.
yes, cool idea. just please, be careful with those short-short ends of your prusiks.
stay safe!
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dude thats amazing and so simple, thank you for this video
Great tip, sir!
Hackberry, have hung from many, and shot many animals from these trees!
Thanks for sharing,
Steve
Hey check out jrb tree climbing channel he has some really great things on his channel
that's cool thanks for sharing. i'm going to try it. i'm assuming a real tender will be better but i will try it!
Brilliant!!! What kind of termination knot is on your prussik loops?
Just overhand. I’ve switched to double fisherman’s since posting.
@@jerbyng oh gotcha. That's what I use as well. I was just curious
Can you post a link to your caribiners
Well i could show you a similar version still available on Amazon. BUT if you read through the comment section you'll see some good advice on why not to use these. I have taken that advice and switched to the Tethrd screw gate version. Big thing is you want a locking screw gate (NOT auto lock) so that it can't accidentally turn and flip open on you. Black Diamond has some that are very affordable. This probably what I'd go with now off Amazon. a.co/d/7zbY5BS
Well damn it... I already have two Ropemans lol
Nice!
Thank you very much~^^
Awesome information! Thanks!
Omg that is so simple. Great video
You sir are a genius. Thanks for this tip!
This is an awesome tip for newbies in the saddle world.
You really should tie a bend instead of a knot for connecting the prusik cords. Those knots could roll.
Thanks. If you check out the comments you’ll see that has been addressed and changed.
@@jerbyng Oh, yeah. I saw. But, most people recommended a fisherman's. The knot you're using would be just fine if it was tied as a bend instead of a regular knot. Same structure, different way to tie it. Look up Canyons and Crags with Rich Carlson. It's very informative.
Love the hat what a way to rep a good TH-cam channel
G3D Figureaider thank me later
That does look like a cool piece of gear. My reason for posting was to avoid another piece of gear though 😜
I wondered how they did this, thanks!
Overhand knots on the prusik are a big no go... Double Fisherman if you must use a knot. A sewn loop is ideal.
Been mentioned and responded to a bunch of times already. 👍🏼 but thanks
What rope are you using for youre tether and linesman and you’re prusic knots ?
Im completely new to saddle hunting. How would this be helpful for me in climbing the tree with a one stick? Very curious because I would like to add new ideas to make my life easier lol Thanks!
I’m a one stick saddle hunter and this trick makes using your linemen’s belt easier and safer
Thank you for the video can't wait to try this
Learn something new everyday!
Awesome information sir thanks for sharing
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That’s great thanks
Good stuff!
Works! Mind blown!! Thank you!!
Anyway to show the double fisherman knot. I am using my old Trophyline saddle but upgrading to a rope tether and deciding whether to use the ropeman 1 or the prussic.
Here are some videos another hunter sent me teaching the basic knots for a rope tether...
Prusik: th-cam.com/video/AW5zZknRUSs/w-d-xo.html
Double fisherman’s: th-cam.com/video/HHV-IB_dEZQ/w-d-xo.html
Figure 8: th-cam.com/video/trCA_avx4xM/w-d-xo.html
Stopper: th-cam.com/video/QfZ7S92vebQ/w-d-xo.html
@@jerbyng thanks Jeremy!
Good info thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing! Love the hat!
Awesome. Thanks
Genius … works so easy
Great video😊
You might want to rethink the knots you are using with the prusik. Research the double fishermans knot for prusiks. Its a certified life safety knot. Also, research arborist techniques as you are climbing a tree and not a pole. Any goof can climb a pole LOL.....
thats awesome! great tip
Is that paracord your using?
No it’s 6mm 2650#
Sehr cool 💪
What kind of ropes are you running here?
A 10.5mm from amazon for the tether and the stock XOP ropes that came with the saddle/platform. My guess is they’re 8-9mm?
Maybe less, I can go out and check if you would like
Have a look at the JBR climbing method. Also very 👍
Everyone wants to make a video after owning a saddle for 2 weeks. Amateurs shouldn’t be trying to teach. Turned this off as soon as I heard “lineSman”
Certainly not claiming to know it all. Always trying to learn, and share what has helped me. Thanks for helping me learn a bit more 👍🏼
There’s always got to be one in every comment section.
@@58BowNut It is me. I am the one telling people not to teach while they're still learning themselves. Especially when they're teaching about dangling from heights.
@@BaB563BaB In fairness to OP, he isn't teaching us about climbing or even tying knots. He is simply showing us how to feed our tailend(s) through a biner , to tend our prusik.
I certainly agree with your general sentiment. But in my opinion, you could have definitely delivered it better ; Although it's not needed here as previously stated.
@@weirdmood8102 opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. Welcome to the internet.
Please retie and reposition the knot in your prusik. Also on your linesman, your prusik should be a smaller diameter rope than your main line. Showing folks how to do something, as you are clearly doing things in an unsafe manner is borderline negligence.
Thanks. If you’ll read the comments you’ll see all this has been adjusted and covered since posting. And the lineman’s is stock from XOP. 9mm rope and 7mm prusik. Thanks.
LINEMAN THERE ISNT AN "S" IN THE MIDDLE
I stand corrected. Thanks 👊🏼
Linesman 🤌
I use the ropeman on a carabeiner below my prusic on a carabeiner and i use my linemans rope as a backup bridge
Question...How you get the rope up on the tree.
Hey man you got the xop saddle? If so do you like it? Got one for myself so far so good.
Yes! Good eye. I got a great deal on the harness and platform. I cut off basically all the fall restraint pieces and tweaked a few things. Made a belt out of the shoulder straps by adding a buckle. Works just like a saddle now!
@@jerbyng yeah I cut the fall arrest too and left the shoulders own just easier to hold up the saddle. I dont care for the ropes and carabiners that it came with but it's not bad in my limited experience.