¡Hola, Lorena! Qué gusto volver a verte. Hmmm. 17% to 18% loss? In my previous 2018 Model 3 RWD, the battery capacity had dropped to 94.35% after nearly 6 years and 78,737 miles. I've now had my current EV for 10 months and 10,316 miles, and it still retains 100% capacity. That's good news. Even better news is that my battery warranty is the best in the industry: 10 years and 100K miles. Gracias por refutar la petrolganda de que las baterías se morirán después de 3 o 5 años. ¡Mentiras!
Hola! Yes I was surprised to see that high of a percentage too. I'm curious if the Phoenix Summers have impacted that more than I would have thought. Gracias por compartir!
I got a 2020 Model Y back in June 2020, and in January 2024, a battery health test said it was at around 85% capacity. In September I ran another battery health test, and this time it showed 87% capacity remaining, so I found it odd that somehow it regained 2% battery health. I currently have around 103k miles on it, and I live in Wisconsin so that might play a factor compared to living somewhere in the southern US. But overall I'm not worried about the battery health too much. It definitely shows less range compared to a new one, but I rarely ever use the full range on a daily basis anyway. And on road trips, there are significantly more Superchargers now, so total range is less of a concern to me as well, since I can just do another supercharger stop if I really needed to.
Original net capacity of a 2018 long range is around 69-70 kwh. 75 is gross capacity. so you're looking at around 13% degradation. still quite high. There is also another way to calculate net capacity. On the energy app under the consumption tab. It will show you the average consumption over the last x distance(wh/km) and how long it estimates your remaining range(km) is with that specific consumption. If you multiply those numbers you will get the remaining charge in the battery in wh. For example in my car right now it says that I averaged 232wh/km over the last 50km and the projected range is 183km. Multiply those numbers and I get 42456wh or 42.5kwh remaining. My battery charge is currently 60%. So if I do 42.5/0.6 I get 70.8kwh net capacity. Which is good because it means I have basically no degradation.
There is some question about how accurate this test actually is. Another TH-camr did it on his early 2018 Model 3 with a lot of mileage on it and it showed his battery health was 100%, which obviously wasn't true. One thing to note is that if Tesla has to replace your battery due to excessive degradation, they don't have to replace it with a new battery and the replacement won't have a warranty, not even if you had more time left on the old battery. You only get a warranty if you paid for a replacement new battery, which may not even be as long as the one that came with your car. There is far less stress on the battery going down to 0% than there is charging it past 50%.
Drop it below 10% = 100 cycles less in its lifetime. Charge it to 100% and let it sit a day or 5, 100 cycles less of its lifetime. Everything between 10 and 80% is perfectly healthy for storage.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Actually, 80% is not healthy for storage. All Lithium Ion batteries behave the same and prefer to be stored at 50%, that area will show the least battery degradation.
@@Resist4 I have seen and dismissed them all. There must be thousands of efforts making shiny new trendy "better" batteries on the world but only a very tiny percentage makes it to the market and sells. As long as they do not sell and are used in products they do not count.
Yea, I get the sentiment. I have a Model Y and I love it but I also despise Elon. My next car will likely be a Rivian R2. I’m not married to Tesla but having access to their network is crucial for stress free road tripping.
Then you are not allowed to buy anything US made, Mexican made, Canadian made, European made, Chinese made. Even Egyptian and Moroccan is taboo for you. Xhosa are ok. Tibetians not they were more nazified than anyone else. They invented it after all.
Great reporting. 👍 Love tuning in to see your 2018 and 2019 journeys.
Thanks so much!
15k congrats
Thank you! :)
¡Hola, Lorena! Qué gusto volver a verte. Hmmm. 17% to 18% loss? In my previous 2018 Model 3 RWD, the battery capacity had dropped to 94.35% after nearly 6 years and 78,737 miles. I've now had my current EV for 10 months and 10,316 miles, and it still retains 100% capacity. That's good news. Even better news is that my battery warranty is the best in the industry: 10 years and 100K miles. Gracias por refutar la petrolganda de que las baterías se morirán después de 3 o 5 años. ¡Mentiras!
Hola! Yes I was surprised to see that high of a percentage too. I'm curious if the Phoenix Summers have impacted that more than I would have thought. Gracias por compartir!
I got a 2020 Model Y back in June 2020, and in January 2024, a battery health test said it was at around 85% capacity. In September I ran another battery health test, and this time it showed 87% capacity remaining, so I found it odd that somehow it regained 2% battery health.
I currently have around 103k miles on it, and I live in Wisconsin so that might play a factor compared to living somewhere in the southern US.
But overall I'm not worried about the battery health too much. It definitely shows less range compared to a new one, but I rarely ever use the full range on a daily basis anyway. And on road trips, there are significantly more Superchargers now, so total range is less of a concern to me as well, since I can just do another supercharger stop if I really needed to.
If you charge to 100%, does the range estimate equal out to same estimate of range degradation?
The range estimate always varies based on how you've been driving, HVAC use, etc., so it's not a good comparison tool.
@ Well, if it’s sitting in your garage slowly charging to 100%, none of those factors are in play.
@@willaerley7140 "How you've been driving", not "how you are driving".
Great Video. Thanks
Very informative! Thanks 😊
Gracias por la informacion, voy a correr el test con mi 2022 Y model.
¡Quiero saber los resultados!
How were the cars charged on a daily basis? 80% or perhaps 90%. There is a much higher degradation the closer to 100% you charge your car.
Did you say the milage ? If years doesn't matter as much.
All EV manufacturers offer 8-10 year 100k/150k BEV battery guarantees. Not just Tesla. We own an R1T and Ioniq6.
VW does not. Mercedes does not. BMW does not. Fiat does not. Want some more?
Callas, we are EV, Furbaby sisters.
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Original net capacity of a 2018 long range is around 69-70 kwh. 75 is gross capacity. so you're looking at around 13% degradation. still quite high.
There is also another way to calculate net capacity. On the energy app under the consumption tab. It will show you the average consumption over the last x distance(wh/km) and how long it estimates your remaining range(km) is with that specific consumption. If you multiply those numbers you will get the remaining charge in the battery in wh.
For example in my car right now it says that I averaged 232wh/km over the last 50km and the projected range is 183km. Multiply those numbers and I get 42456wh or 42.5kwh remaining. My battery charge is currently 60%. So if I do 42.5/0.6 I get 70.8kwh net capacity. Which is good because it means I have basically no degradation.
Great info. Aloha.
There is some question about how accurate this test actually is. Another TH-camr did it on his early 2018 Model 3 with a lot of mileage on it and it showed his battery health was 100%, which obviously wasn't true.
One thing to note is that if Tesla has to replace your battery due to excessive degradation, they don't have to replace it with a new battery and the replacement won't have a warranty, not even if you had more time left on the old battery. You only get a warranty if you paid for a replacement new battery, which may not even be as long as the one that came with your car.
There is far less stress on the battery going down to 0% than there is charging it past 50%.
Drop it below 10% = 100 cycles less in its lifetime. Charge it to 100% and let it sit a day or 5, 100 cycles less of its lifetime. Everything between 10 and 80% is perfectly healthy for storage.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Actually, 80% is not healthy for storage. All Lithium Ion batteries behave the same and prefer to be stored at 50%, that area will show the least battery degradation.
@@Resist4 I can attest that this is not correct.
50% is the international limit for shipping. Thats all.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 The clearly you have not seen the latest Lithium Ion battery research results.
@@Resist4 I have seen and dismissed them all.
There must be thousands of efforts making shiny new trendy "better" batteries on the world but only a very tiny percentage makes it to the market and sells.
As long as they do not sell and are used in products they do not count.
Im suprised its that low. Thats Nissan leaf territory with the age of those cars and mileage, and the Leaf batteries are the worst of worst.
Yeah seems a bit high. Maybe the warm climate.
False. Age absolutely plays a significant role....
Wrong
Calendar aging isn't as significant as charging habits are, which is something we can control to help slow battery degradation.
Not in 3 or 4 years. In 20 or 30 years with old batteries? Yes. With modern cells? No.
@@Resist4It was. It is not anymore. At least with most modern cells.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Nothing has changed internally with Lithium Ion batteries.
If Tesla was the only vehicle available to buy I would walk or take the bus before I give any money to Elon Musk that fascist lover.
Yea, I get the sentiment. I have a Model Y and I love it but I also despise Elon. My next car will likely be a Rivian R2. I’m not married to Tesla but having access to their network is crucial for stress free road tripping.
@Jet_Pilot525 I agree Tesla was the best but fortunately more EVs coming.
Easier to deal with repairs and maintenance outside of Tesla.
I bought a Tesla because of Elon.
@@GetThemLyrics well if you love fascism more power to you.
Then you are not allowed to buy anything US made, Mexican made, Canadian made, European made, Chinese made. Even Egyptian and Moroccan is taboo for you. Xhosa are ok. Tibetians not they were more nazified than anyone else. They invented it after all.