I like at 3:40 how the porsche moves aside to let the bike go but rider is "nah this is fun carry on". Shows he's a good sport and having fun (albeit highly reckless fun).
1994 3.6, that car is bloody amazing and the driver is pretty damn good too. the way that car accelerates, goes into and around and out of those roundabouts and takes off... yet is a car you could drive every day and do the shopping in like a golf, very impressive (speaking as a biker, i know how quick those r1s are).
I loved owning one when they were dirt cheap, the lightness of the car makes it very pleasant to drive . The engine is really slow compared to anything today and all the water porsche would let it in the dust , but the 964 will always be a beauty and a driver s car.
Best thing I ever watched. Both clever men. I bet they had a knees up afterwards. The Porsche driver knew how to drive a Porsche. The R1 driver knew how to drive a R1. Amazing footage. 180mph+ wow
Some 1 needs to tell the owner of the porsche that he wasn't on a bike, some of those passes were massively reckless, any 1 would have thought he'd just stolen the damn thing 😅
Feel like I've watched this video for an eternity - I'd pay good money to see this in 4k ... just to see how close that Porsche really got coming off that roundabout!
The Porsche driving was mental especially as he put his life in other peoples hands overtaking on the wrong side of the road, if one of those drivers wasn't paying attention and didn't move over it was a high speed head on and GAME OVER!
Everyone back then driving Rovers, Fords, Vauxhall. Almost no one driving Korean or German... yet... This driving is dangerous and idiotic... and that's what makes is so much fun to watch
In case anyone is still around, the red Porsche’s tax disk ran out on the first of November of this year and the mot expired on the 16 of October this year. I’m guessing that it’s sitting in a garage somewhere waiting to be fixed after the world hopefully comes out of the nightmare.
According to the DVLA the 1994 Porsche is still taxed until 17th of March 2015. If it is still registered to the same owner then I'm sure Mr Plod will be paying him a visit soon!
FL34747 Even if he no longer has the car, they'll be able to trace whom the obvious personalised plate belonged to. They can take a guess at when the video was shot and check records around that time.
mikefranky in not joking the women who was driving the car sold it about 13 years ago to my dad then 10 years ago the police saw this video and tracked it down luckly my dad didn’t havet to pay the fine because he was not the driver at the time and I’m been really serious if you have Instagram I will take a photo of the same bloody car bloody number plate and all that so you know I’m not liening 👍 have a good day
@@dlg78 r1 doesn't need to be in fifth gear to reach 170 kmh. My Yamaha fz6 goes over 170 kmh in 3rd gear. Watch again,they were braking..when you saw 80 mph
I have a 1000cc bike engine in one of my lightweight cars, it's given me a whole new appreciation of sports bikes and their riders, totally mad things for sure!
Great video . love it. You're both f*kin nuts. know that road well. two perfect machines. wouldve liked to see you two chat afterwards, did you know each other?
the video is from the late 90s. Anyone that thinks thats is 170 kph not 170 mph ask yourself this. do you really think that an R1 would scream like that in top gear at 105 mph? dont think so
It is kmh. That's an old 993 3.6 non Turbo, at 1.21 it goes from 100 to 150 in 7 seconds. To put that into perspective, the latest 991 Turbo s takes 11 seconds to get from 100mph to 150mph.
@@dlg78 i think it was the bike that was doing 100mph to 150mph in 7 seconds. The bike was catching up and quickly closing in on the porsche so the porsche was going slower.
@@kilabot749 if you watch that segment the bike was hardly closing at all. End of the day the Porsche doesn't accelerate that fast, at all, not even close.
I think it's late 90s with an old camera. The picture quality is arse, but I think I might have seen an R plate on one of the cars which means late 1997, early 98.
Nope - it was an illusion created by the edge of the glass on the bike. If you keep pausing it, you can see the Porsche jolt to the left, but not actually make contact.
Wow! One of the best videos I've watched in a while. As a Porsche driver myself I can really appreciate how easy it is to zip along like that. Unfortunately too many twats with dashcams nowadays ready to pass their footage to the feds.
I’ve raced a Porsche and an Aston Martin Vantage but I’d never race a person that drives like this I’d let him go cause he is suicidal and could kill someone else on the road then I’d feel some blame for it because I was encouraging it. it’s not worth it.
A fairly modest porsche being a non turbo and the heavier soft top, left the bike round the roundabouts, but the bike caught up pretty quick on the straights. It is England and circa 1998 is my guess, it is also unquestionably MPH on the speedo, 170 is about top end in that porker, bike probably didn't have a huge amount left either. Both mad as a tin of snakes and had either been caught or crashed then some poo would definitely have made an appearance. Yes, had they been caught, which considering the risks being taken the police would probably only try to pursue from the air, the traffic cars of the time (and now) would struggle big time to keep up with that pair of loons. This type of thing is so incredibly dangerous but also incredibly thrilling to watch. Quality YouTubing.
Ed i think you should look at the point where the bike is leaving roundabouts with billies all round him and he is matched speed and ht speedo says 50 but there is no way they are all doing 50. I thought the speedo was mph but after looking over it again i believe its kph.
@@rcryan7shmee It is kmh. That's an old 993 3.6 non Turbo, at 1.21 it goes from 100 to 150 in 7 seconds. To put that into perspective, the latest 991 Turbo s takes 11 seconds to get from 100mph to 150mph.
needraintodrift an old gsxr 11 just slightly tuned. no need ur hypercar sorry! the first r1 was well known for her short blow in high rpm due to a lake of air intake!!!! but it s enough éventuellement on that vidéo! sorry guys
@6:30 got your number. I bet the police paid this person a visit after they saw this. Clearly he was doing over 160mph at times. That’s a prison sentence.
@@Alex.1739 both bikers are obviously unmarked police riders, and this clip was never meant to be shown publicly one of the most egregious uk speeding offences ever captured from the evidently stolen soft-top porker
Igi Ristic no balls. easy to play well protected in his cage. put his fat ass on a bike and he Will cry like a baby like all rager cagers. they are cagers cause Too scary to ride
Have to say that biker can really handle his machine the Porsche driver however was just pushing his luck the way he was overtaking. like previous comment bet he's not around or probably serving time for killing someone. great video !!
Going for it pretty well, but reasonable caution was taken. There is far worse on here. I know when you commit to this type of fun you have to accept the possible outcome, but that's what males do... we are risk takers.
Still taxed and Mot'd as of Oct 2018 with only 104k on the clock no bad for this old girl.......and still ripping up on the countries roads im sure : )
Estás dos personas son crazys. Si quieren ver quién es mejor, te pagas un circuito y se comprueba. Además que si ocurre algo se lo agradecerá su cuerpo al tener una vía de escape. Y si en esta supuesta gesta, se chocara o matara a un familiar nuestro, veríamos el vídeo con.los mismos ojos. Se puede correr cuando se puede correr, esto es una aberración.
@@dlg78kmh? I don't think so. 175kph is only around 108mph. 100mph motorcycle top speeds in UK would be plausible if this video took place in the 1950s or 1960s. Lol. Top speed of a 1998 Yamaha R1 is around 170mph.
@@kilabot749 for the 100th time, the Porsche is not as fast or can accelerate as fast as the speedometer shows. nor do I believe all the other traffic is doing 40mph around roundabouts.
@@dlg78 look at it again. you can see the astra's brake lights, it was braking and slowing down for the roundabout and the bike was running at 50mph or less and the bike overtook it like it was standing still while going around the roundabout.
Balls!!!! It s so easy to play the boss hidden in his cage!!! He just plays with other people s life. Thé other cars change their way to let him go. He turns crazy because furious to see his poor cage is catched up by the bike on each acceleration!!
![@Rideezy IS INSANE! You have to see this BIKER flying through the NÜRBURGRING NORDSCHLEIFE BTG [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tL8QXAUQfVw/mqdefault.jpg)
This car was still being driven in 2021 what a legend
The best unedited bike vs car video on TH-cam! Love the grainy old skool footage. 👍👍👍
They are both pretty crazy
but the guy in the Porsche is just nucking futs...
See that on part where they had a close call it was between 0 and the 8:27 mark
God damn that porsche really did not care if he lived or died that day haha
Or killed anyone else that day 😡
So easy to play the king hidden in a cage!! poor little scary pussy
That 911 is still on the road and has MOT till July 2024.
Love it.
Porsche owner driving it like he stole it. This will always be one of my favourite videos.
I like at 3:40 how the porsche moves aside to let the bike go but rider is "nah this is fun carry on". Shows he's a good sport and having fun (albeit highly reckless fun).
Filmed with a Potato in 1992.. One of the best driving scenes I've ever seen though. I got a feeling the Porsche driver is no longer with us.. R.I.P.
Audimane420 Much later than 1992. More like 1998 with an ancient camera.
Yeah, Yamaha came out with the first R1 in 1998, so that makes sense
He is fit and well.
It’s actually an early 2000’s video
Audimane420 well this vid surfaced on Facebook in 2019 and believe it or not. The cars still registered.....
1994 3.6, that car is bloody amazing and the driver is pretty damn good too. the way that car accelerates, goes into and around and out of those roundabouts and takes off... yet is a car you could drive every day and do the shopping in like a golf, very impressive (speaking as a biker, i know how quick those r1s are).
I loved owning one when they were dirt cheap, the lightness of the car makes it very pleasant to drive . The engine is really slow compared to anything today and all the water porsche would let it in the dust , but the 964 will always be a beauty and a driver s car.
@@armands3863The one in the video is a 993 but yes a stunning car and the last of the air cooled Porsche’s
I can't work out if it is a C4 or not, but definitely not a turbo like others have said. just shows how quick they can be when driven hard
Best thing I ever watched. Both clever men. I bet they had a knees up afterwards. The Porsche driver knew how to drive a Porsche. The R1 driver knew how to drive a R1. Amazing footage. 180mph+ wow
yeah, he knew how to drive but some of his actions were too risky for public roads ..
@@razev1985 yes very true
The blokes a dick!
Some 1 needs to tell the owner of the porsche that he wasn't on a bike, some of those passes were massively reckless, any 1 would have thought he'd just stolen the damn thing 😅
“Both clever men”. Stated by a man who is so obviously not “clever”.
I miss the roads here in the UK being as quiet. Full of nobs in golf R's now doing 130 in a 30 getting cameras built everywhere 😳
Times are moving forward
Old man
@@Makten12 I'm 30 ... lol
@@JONESSTI01 30 is old my friend
@@Makten12🤦♂️
Feel like I've watched this video for an eternity - I'd pay good money to see this in 4k ... just to see how close that Porsche really got coming off that roundabout!
This was on the a57 in worksop and this happens on a nightly basis it's a great road for "playing on" if the conditions are right
Not that you've 'played about' on the A57 marv lol
+craig hyland me never I'm a good boy me
The Porsche driving was mental especially as he put his life in other peoples hands overtaking on the wrong side of the road, if one of those drivers wasn't paying attention and didn't move over it was a high speed head on and GAME OVER!
Overtaking at 170mph+ on single carriageway roads: that's commitment!
Good thing the Porsche was using his turn signal.
Everyone back then driving Rovers, Fords, Vauxhall. Almost no one driving Korean or German... yet...
This driving is dangerous and idiotic... and that's what makes is so much fun to watch
Basically yeah
Crazy guys or not that Porsche was quick.
By far the best car vs bike race ever
Must be at least 1998. The R1 started production in 98. Plus i spotted a ford puma which started in 97/98. No HD Go Pro's out back then guys!!! LMFO
Filmed on the A57 Worksop Bypass in Nottinghamshire.
A57 Worksop bypass. I recognise the roads
In case anyone is still around, the red Porsche’s tax disk ran out on the first of November of this year and the mot expired on the 16 of October this year. I’m guessing that it’s sitting in a garage somewhere waiting to be fixed after the world hopefully comes out of the nightmare.
2024 and it has a new MOT that expires in July!
According to the DVLA the 1994 Porsche is still taxed until 17th of March 2015. If it is still registered to the same owner then I'm sure Mr Plod will be paying him a visit soon!
FL34747 Even if he no longer has the car, they'll be able to trace whom the obvious personalised plate belonged to. They can take a guess at when the video was shot and check records around that time.
It's impossible to know who was behind the wheel and even if they knew, this would be too long ago to fine someone for something like this.
no it changed because my dad brought the car off him 10 years ago and the police came and yeah etc but all is good now
Itz Storm ....yeah right 🤣
mikefranky in not joking the women who was driving the car sold it about 13 years ago to my dad then 10 years ago the police saw this video and tracked it down luckly my dad didn’t havet to pay the fine because he was not the driver at the time and I’m been really serious if you have Instagram I will take a photo of the same bloody car bloody number plate and all that so you know I’m not liening 👍 have a good day
DAMN those 993's are quick
It's kmh
@@dlg78 R1 struggling to reach 170 kmh? It does 150 kmh in first gear..
@@golf1diesel where is it 'struggling'. The point is, if you watch the video they are apparently entering roundabouts at 80mph...
Really?
@@dlg78 r1 doesn't need to be in fifth gear to reach 170 kmh. My Yamaha fz6 goes over 170 kmh in 3rd gear. Watch again,they were braking..when you saw 80 mph
It's MPH it's uk roads
I have a 1000cc bike engine in one of my lightweight cars, it's given me a whole new appreciation of sports bikes and their riders, totally mad things for sure!
Darwin has his hand on that Porsche drivers shoulder. If he hasn't already got him!😂
All what we know is.. he is called the STIG
Real seat-of-your-pants driving and riding, skillful too.
Great video . love it. You're both f*kin nuts. know that road well. two perfect machines. wouldve liked to see you two chat afterwards, did you know each other?
the video is from the late 90s. Anyone that thinks thats is 170 kph not 170 mph ask yourself this. do you really think that an R1 would scream like that in top gear at 105 mph? dont think so
It is kmh. That's an old 993 3.6 non Turbo, at 1.21 it goes from 100 to 150 in 7 seconds. To put that into perspective, the latest 991 Turbo s takes 11 seconds to get from 100mph to 150mph.
@@dlg78 course its km...ive said this before on here. Seems faster coz everyone else is going 50mph and they doing 90 to 105
@@dlg78 i think it was the bike that was doing 100mph to 150mph in 7 seconds. The bike was catching up and quickly closing in on the porsche so the porsche was going slower.
@@kilabot749 if you watch that segment the bike was hardly closing at all. End of the day the Porsche doesn't accelerate that fast, at all, not even close.
@@kilabot749 1.42, do you really think they are entering a roundabout at 70mph?
Late 90s or 2000ish judging by the phase 2 Pug 106 and the mk1 Renault Scenic
I think it's late 90s with an old camera. The picture quality is arse, but I think I might have seen an R plate on one of the cars which means late 1997, early 98.
Yep and that blue ford Orion wasn't in bad nick... all rusted away now lol
1:49 - he definitely hit that car...
I still think that LOL.. I'm sure the man is dead by now so I guess we'll never know :(
Audimane420 But do you know if he stole the car - or why was he driving like that?
Idk lol... The man is clearly driving it like he stole it so idk lol...
Nope - it was an illusion created by the edge of the glass on the bike. If you keep pausing it, you can see the Porsche jolt to the left, but not actually make contact.
DialingSkyNet I'm pretty certain that he scratched his bumper... the car on the right even seemed to move a bit...
3:24 R1- "you're not even fast bro"
top speed they would be about the same,the acceleration of the Porsche is closer to one of the Yamaha R6 rather than R1
Wow! One of the best videos I've watched in a while. As a Porsche driver myself I can really appreciate how easy it is to zip along like that. Unfortunately too many twats with dashcams nowadays ready to pass their footage to the feds.
yes those bastards reporting people racing at 100mph on the roads. what twats they are
What's mental is when at 5:08 he just pops up again.. He was practically right behind him
Some fairly spirited driving there, one might say
When kids looks back in 30 years with autonomous cars, they be like this is fake
This is how I drove in the 90's
Some crazy skills from both driver and rider
Racing in worksop I love them roads
5:08 .... 911 still there. Kept up all that time.
DVLA show this as an 1994 3.6cc Porsche, registration number M777 MJH.
LOL - love it!
Anyone know what year model/trim, Porsche?
I know it’s crazy but wow, they certainly knew how to drive/ride!! Awesome
It’s a Carrera NOT a turbo. 268bhp 3.6.
Your welcome!
I’ve raced a Porsche and an Aston Martin Vantage but I’d never race a person that drives like this I’d let him go cause he is suicidal and could kill someone else on the road then I’d feel some blame for it because I was encouraging it. it’s not worth it.
Surprised this never hit over 1million views
What a driver!
imagine the r1 rider was a cop and had 8 minutes evidence why the porsche driver would never ever get his license back :p
Amazing driving from both.
A fairly modest porsche being a non turbo and the heavier soft top, left the bike round the roundabouts, but the bike caught up pretty quick on the straights. It is England and circa 1998 is my guess, it is also unquestionably MPH on the speedo, 170 is about top end in that porker, bike probably didn't have a huge amount left either.
Both mad as a tin of snakes and had either been caught or crashed then some poo would definitely have made an appearance. Yes, had they been caught, which considering the risks being taken the police would probably only try to pursue from the air, the traffic cars of the time (and now) would struggle big time to keep up with that pair of loons.
This type of thing is so incredibly dangerous but also incredibly thrilling to watch.
Quality YouTubing.
Porker? Im gonna guess you work with cars in some way.
Christopher Everson yes thats right, but porsches are often referred to as that over here..
car was 'w' reg so its at least 2000.
Roh Hulme The Porsche is an M reg, 1994 3.6L 993.
Ed i think you should look at the point where the bike is leaving roundabouts with billies all round him and he is matched speed and ht speedo says 50 but there is no way they are all doing 50. I thought the speedo was mph but after looking over it again i believe its kph.
the car is not a turbo but a c2 or 4 cab, turbo would have upped the ante ... damn crazy on public roads, riveting footage though
the guy on the r1 is playing with the porsche - LOL- good riding dude, you could have eat him at any point!
Cause he was, when he did overtake he lost the lead at the next roundabout, if the road was clear he would have left the bike for dead.
Not on the corners.
I would not go anywhere near that Porsche driver if I was on that bike… good driver but way too dangerous
Not a 911 turbo just a plain 3.6 soft top
I think the guy in the Porsche forgot that he was in his car, and not on his bike that day.
This is 98 onwards as I still ride a 98 R1 so recognised the bike that was two up was the same,
This is possibly even more mental than the sl65 vs r1 vid.
Forgot how good this video is but god I wish it was in 4k...
I am sure that at the time cinema cameras were only full HD at best
Not a turbo, and definitely in mph!
Adam Redford 993 turbo
@@rcryan7shmee It is kmh. That's an old 993 3.6 non Turbo, at 1.21 it goes from 100 to 150 in 7 seconds. To put that into perspective, the latest 991 Turbo s takes 11 seconds to get from 100mph to 150mph.
@@dlg78 its mph 100 percent, don't do kmh in the UK
@@orkm.c9602 it's an r1, you can change it from MPH to kmh just by holding down two buttons on the speedo
@@rcryan7shmee it's not a Turbo. It's just a carrera 2
240p we meet again
+mambo 360p.. get with the times
Nice.....very nice......been there and done that but not for as long and probably not as good???. good riding....good buzz.
Who is brakes were failing. That’s why he pulled over beautiful driving despite it being very dangerous.
wow the 993 is faster than I thought!
needraintodrift ???? no acceleration!!!! poor car!
what do you drive then? koenigsegg? please
needraintodrift an old gsxr 11 just slightly tuned. no need ur hypercar sorry!
the first r1 was well known for her short blow in high rpm due to a lake of air intake!!!! but it s enough éventuellement on that vidéo!
sorry guys
nauatg sorry I don't care about bikes
needraintodrift When you ll be a man maybe?
I have so many questions...
@6:30 got your number. I bet the police paid this person a visit after they saw this. Clearly he was doing over 160mph at times. That’s a prison sentence.
Erm dont think the biker was showing the police this
@@Alex.1739 both bikers are obviously unmarked police riders, and this clip was never meant to be shown publicly
one of the most egregious uk speeding offences ever captured from the evidently stolen soft-top porker
Surprised the bike overtook him. He could easily but at least when the car is in front the bike can see what he is doing
Reg: M777 MJH, DVLA search reveals 01/09/1994, red, tax expires 17th march 2015
They are both probably living in small wooden boxs now :)
well my dad owns the porshe he didn't have the car at the time but yeah
ITZ PHOEBE my dad owns a f16 , so what
@@gowen8128 is yo dad trump becuase you cant walk into a tesco and buy an f16 buddy
Rowan you can in Asda 🙄🙄
@@gowen8128 oh yeah I forgot
That Porsche driver got pretty lucky when overpassing other cars on the opposite lane.
I didn’t see one McDonald’s at any of the roundabouts, how times have changed
I saw 1 mcds in the video
6:35 there's one
that porsch driver got big balls and he was ready to go
Igi Ristic no balls. easy to play well protected in his cage. put his fat ass on a bike and he Will cry like a baby like all rager cagers. they are cagers cause Too scary to ride
The play of SIRI SARBLOH JI . testosterone.
Have to say that biker can really handle his machine the Porsche driver however was just pushing his luck the way he was overtaking. like previous comment bet he's not around or probably serving time for killing someone. great video !!
John Skeen porsche still registered and driving.
That is a carrera, not a turbo.
people that paid for their porsche don’t drive them like that
Going for it pretty well, but reasonable caution was taken. There is far worse on here. I know when you commit to this type of fun you have to accept the possible outcome, but that's what males do... we are risk takers.
wow that old vw beetle was pretty quick🚗💨
Not sure if that Porsche is holding back with it's top speed... or just HOLDING BACK... cuz that bike was maxing it out.
bike wasnt even close bud
jerichom11x exactly what I was wondering, Bike wasn't close.. but was that Porsche giving it all?
brask310 bike didnt go to max !!
Imagine if the porsche was a turbo.
fuck me the guy in a porsche is a fucking idiot
Mental street racing around my home town worksop notts
Still taxed and Mot'd as of Oct 2018 with only 104k on the clock no bad for this old girl.......and still ripping up on the countries roads im sure : )
You lot are wild, no privacy lol. Good to know it's ok though haha.
@@dannybrett3238 gotta love the internets
Some say it’s the stig when he was in nappy’s
Estás dos personas son crazys. Si quieren ver quién es mejor, te pagas un circuito y se comprueba. Además que si ocurre algo se lo agradecerá su cuerpo al tener una vía de escape. Y si en esta supuesta gesta, se chocara o matara a un familiar nuestro, veríamos el vídeo con.los mismos ojos. Se puede correr cuando se puede correr, esto es una aberración.
Спасибо за Кайф - смотреть мастерство вождения ! 😊
175 MPH.
Kmh
@@dlg78kmh? I don't think so. 175kph is only around 108mph. 100mph motorcycle top speeds in UK would be plausible if this video took place in the 1950s or 1960s. Lol. Top speed of a 1998 Yamaha R1 is around 170mph.
@@kilabot749 for the 100th time, the Porsche is not as fast or can accelerate as fast as the speedometer shows. nor do I believe all the other traffic is doing 40mph around roundabouts.
For all the people saying it's mph....please...20 seconds, do you really think that astra estate is entering a roundabout at 50 mph???
@@dlg78 look at it again. you can see the astra's brake lights, it was braking and slowing down for the roundabout and the bike was running at 50mph or less and the bike overtook it like it was standing still while going around the roundabout.
Hey - are you guys still alive because this was shot in about 1997 and I suspect that one or both of you is looking down from the workshop in the sky!
Brilliant race
At 1:50 seconds someone has got a nice scuff mark 😮😂
4:28 biker be like "see ya"
This isn't a tight road....if it was the car would have checked out on him.
Who hasnt gone 28 miles out their way for a play with a porka or lambo :D?
This is a 993 cabrio, not a turbo. Turbo wing is fixed! Nutter driving putting so many people in danger! You want to race? Go on the racetrack!
I want to shake hands with Porsche Driver
Yes indeed. The Porsche driver got some serious big nasty balls. Never seen someone good on a road like him
Balls!!!!
It s so easy to play the boss hidden in his cage!!! He just plays with other people s life. Thé other cars change their way to let him go. He turns crazy because furious to see his poor cage is catched up by the bike on each acceleration!!
@@smartalmos95 well my dad brought the porsh off the owner
Absolutely awesome driving by the pair of them. The bike is either a 98 or a 99 if that helps with the chronology.
Anyone hazard a guess as to where this was shot?
Its the A57 in Worksop nottinghamshire I travel on that road and I would say the footage is minimum 15 years old.
Daniel Howells camera must have been the size of a 4 pint milk carton back the n.
Daniel Howells I did think Nottinghamshire, despite the dreadful picture quality I could make out Newark on one of the signs near the beginning.
Just round corner from where I live this one.👍👍
JD 1971 where abouts is this?
@@rowan4908 A57 Worksop bypass
This is dangerous and stupid, but the guy in the porsche clearly was not a shit driver