I used apple watch for the past 4 years thinking I own fitness watch lol. Switched to forerunner 245 and found out how naive I was. Garmin is a true fitness tracker. No doubt
Ugh!!! The Apple Watch became my nemesis when I was training for triathlon. It was always lying to me and trying to make me feel too good about myself. I would run a 7:30 mile and it would say I ran a 5:45. I would swim a 1:45/100 yard pace and it would say I was swimming a 1 minute pace. While I would like to think I’m one of the fastest women in the world, it’s just not realistic. I switched to the Garmin Forerunner 945 and have been sadly reminded everyday how much slower I actually am. 🤷🏼♀️🤣
Stevestech When it comes to swimming I feel like I get slower each day. I just started swimming in June myself and whenever I feel like I’m getting faster, my coach tells my I’m doing something wrong with my form so I have to fix it which sets me back initially. At least in the long run I may actually get fast. 🤞🏻Good luck on your training!! 🙌🏻
@@imterribee That was me when I began learning to run last June/July 22 years old at 250 pounds and about 40 percent body fat and not being able to run a block. Once I started being able to run 20+miles a week. I kept getting hurt. Had to adjust my Cadence, stride, foot landing, and started doing more toe strike rather then heel. I was slower, and getting fatigued faster initially but as the weeks progress I am actually getting faster injuring less(Also became Plant Based which I think helped ALOT). Now at 170 and low 20 percent BF, running, cycling, and hopefully swimming(once the pools reopen lol) changed my life. Keep up the awesome work, just subbed to your channel.
Really? That's odd because I have a series 4 and it's incredibly accurate. I recently ran the LA marathon and my Apple watch said I ran a 7:49 average and my official time was just a second slower at a 7:50 (timed by the chip in my bib). A second off, and it may be because I started my run on the watch a second too soon, is as accurate as it gets.
You miss some features of the garmin apparently, Eg set intervals, where you program your intervals beforehand and it start, stops and laps automatically with workout specific metric. This is so cool. You can clear your head, you go at a beep, you stop at a beep, you pause at beep beep, you get the job done. It's like a personal coach on your wrist.
Tbh that is Not rly useable. Some Times you want to vary your break by a few seconds. For example if you want to get up the Bill before the next fast section of your run or maybe you just need a few more seconds of rest. Also your very limited in the kind of workout you can do and it just doesnt allow for the small changes you do mid workout.
actually not true, just go to the app; training; workouts; then you can create a custom workout. you can use the lap button(not the start stop button, its actually the back button) to do intervals and don't have to relay on gps to tell you when your interval is done.
@@hansfabiankoeger8657 actually not true, just go to the app; training; workouts; then you can create a custom workout. you can use the lap button(not the start stop button, its actually the back button) to do intervals and don't have to relay on gps to tell you when your interval is done.
@@lewiswatt2597 actually not true, just go to the app; training; workouts; then you can create a custom workout. you can use the lap button(not the start stop button, its actually the back button) to do intervals and don't have to relay on gps to tell you when your interval is done.
Thank you Zach your conclusion is really good by stating "it depends on what type of person you are." Personally I consider running is a very precious time for me alone whenever I'm running easy days or hard workout days. The less distractions the better. So I even turn off the "Notifications" function of my Garmin 245. When I run, I only run.
No joke this is exactly what I needed, I actually have the Apple Watch but was looking into getting the Garmin because of its “rugged” use. Thanks for making this video Zach because there is literally nothing on TH-cam with this same video idea.
I have a Garmin 25 and it is great it has a 1-month battery even if you do 4, 7 mile runs a week but I want to upgrade and these were the 2 watches I was looking at and I think I am going to stay in the Garmin world. They have the best training guides and resources out there. For some people, it just comes down to name brand and how recognizable it is.
I rock the Garmin Forerunner 45S and let me just say it records everything so precise it’s kind of unreal. I’m still discovering new features everyday that just make my running experience even more enjoyable. Would recommend to anyone who runs, even if it’s only 2-3 days a week.
I use a coros pace, the distance is a small bit off but it has a 25 hour gps battery and it records all of my metrics like stride length, cadence, heart rate etc., I would 100% recommend this to anyone, and it is fairly affordable for all those features
Zain Anwar hey, I’ve been looking to buy either the 45 or the 245. I don’t think I’m a competitive enough runner to warrant the 245. Have you missed any feature with the 45? Thanks !
I actually have both watches... yes I’m that person who sometimes wears two watches running please don’t judge. But I do want to let you know (if you don’t already) that if you double tap on the running screen on the Apple Watch it will create a “segment” that really helps during workouts! You can’t see the segments on the watch after they flash up after the tap but you can see them underneath your split times in the activity app on your phone. Hope this helps :)
IT reviewers when the Apple device is lighter: "liGHtEr iS AllWAys bEtTer!" IT reviewers when the Apple device is heavier: "HEavIEr iS mORe pREmiUm!" 😂🤣
@@groundsheet how long you run? i finished a marathon with my aw5 (together with my garmin 645 M, I want to test the aw for its battery), i finished around 3 hours, aw5 had about 30% battery left
You can pause and start the apple watch by clicking both the buttons lol.You can also sync data to strava from the original running app on the watch by downloading a 3rd party app on your phone. The metrics and data seen on the running app display can be changed on your iphones activity app. The apple watch might not be as convenient as the garmin, but definitely has more than enough tools to get the job done. Great video
I have the Garmin 645 Music. I love how I can set my workouts beforehand and how it does the repeats and rest for me. Comfortable, light, and can measure anything you would want.
I’ve got both watches as well and I am able to close all my rings just using the Garmin. After it syncs onto Strava and I’m done with my runs I put my Apple Watch back on and I get the notifications of my rings being closed
I just started running again. I love stats in everything so I felt a garmin would keep me hype, Specially since I should be hitting current prs alot as I get back into shape. I felt bad ab spending 200 on a watch when strava records for free. But the watch is sooo much more accurate AND convenient. Strava had me running a 3:43 mile last week... haha... wtf... anyways Had the watch 3 weeks now, no regrets! Forerunner 235. I do carry my phone tho. So if u want music without a phone carry u might wanna go w the 245 music. It's like $349 tho. Great products! As far as apple watch. I'm sure its good at daily crap if u got an iPhone but I'd p iui ck garmin again 4sure... if u already have the apple watch def give it a try I guess but garmin seems to be killin it... and apparently has been 4 years!
@@zekehowey Android is designed for poor peasants. That's just what it is. If you have a job and make good money... you would buy a premium device instead of garbage Android devices. 🤣
Zach is right, Before being in quarantine I worked out everyday, ran tempos, long runs, slow long runs, Fartleks, intervals, 8X800m 6X1K, 6X800m. I do everything with the watch and is very uncomfortable, but I already have it so I’m not going to another watch, I had to adapt. Great video Zach!
GARMIN all the way... I cannot express how amazing this watch is. I recently started running a good bit over the past 6 months and this is the best fitness watch that I have ever owned in my entire life. If you run alot, Go garmin. I have had both apple watch and Garmin 45, Id choose garmin any day all day!!!
Zach nailed it on this one. At the end of the day, if you are buying an Apple Watch to be your workout watch, you're buying the wrong watch. For me, at the end of the day I get more usability out of the Apple Watch because of all of its non-running features. My biggest gripe with it is still not being able to press the lap button during track/interval workouts
Just double tap the screen. Unfortunately lots of people that review the watch don’t know the many hidden features that give it an upper hand so they rate it worse.
I have had Garmin watches before, got an iWatch5 for my running but I'm about to buy a Garmin 245. The Garmin does what it's supposed to the iWatch is too fiddly and changing metrics with a touchscreen while running is a pain. No harm having another watch and just using the Garmin for your runs, I think that's what I'll probably do. One plus of the iWatch is no need to take a phone with you as I have the cellular version but for pure running functionality, it's the Garmin every time.
My first running watch was an Apple Watch, it is a great watch, but as you said it just does not do well with workouts. So I went to eBay and bought a used Garmin 220 for $60 and that was one of the best purchases I have made. I solely wear my Garmin to run and that is it and I wear my Apple Watch the rest of the day.
I use the Garmin 735 and train with a guy who uses the Apple Watch. I can assure you that there are major inconsistencies with our distances. After running a half marathon, the discrepancy was .80 less for the Garmin. Needless to say, I trust the Garmin. The Apple Watch is more of a Swiss Army Knife. With that said, the Apple Watch is an anomaly for serious running. I will also say that heart rates are ambiguous for both devices when compared to Schose monitors.
One other thing software wise, you have almost no programmability on the Apple Watch where the garmin is fully customizable. This wouldn’t necessarily be a problem except for that Strava’s distance tracker only goes to 1 decimal place, meaning that I wouldn’t have as good of an idea how much further I had to run. Other apps I tried on the Apple Watch had only options for average pace or were set up poorly.
Great review and very helpful. Totally in the same boat and this has nudged me to get the 245 to sit alongside my Apple watch which I will use for the cellular and music streaming capabilities 👍🏻
I think an important thing to note is the battery life. I returned my apple watch because it almost did too much and the battery life was terrible. My Garmin Forerunner 245 Music can last up to a couple of days and I can listen to music without my phone. I am forever loyal to Garmin at this point.
My Apple Watch is great I use NRC Nike run club. Which id like to know your opinion on that too. Only complaint is you’re right can’t ever get some different splits for different data and knowledge on myself and my runs such as I wish I could track lap time and it still goes to my total distance and this and that. Also it has only happened a couple times but I’ll run the same route and the time is very skewed from the mile I ran before and I was feeling like my effort was better. But NRC synces will all Apple Watch activity tracker. Hence why it’s the Nike watch
Great video Zach! I got 1 question and 1 hack: Hack first: On the Apple Watch, you can skip the countdown by tapping the screen again which will start the workout immediately. Unfortunately you have to do it every time tho. Question: Is there a way to sync your Garmin workouts back to the Apple ecosystem (making it count for your activity and rings)?
Yes there is a way! I have both watches and whenever I am done with my Garmin I put my Apple Watch back on and it closes my rings. I'm not entirely sure how I got it to work, but I think you have to sync the Strava app with the Activity app
i had the garmin 245music and im pairing it with my airpods pro, it works really well on the pairing mode and there’s no connectivity issue, i really like it :)
Hi there. Thanks so much for this comment. That’s actually I am worried about because I want to use my Airpods pro but I want to buy Garmin. Is it easy set up the pairing? Thank you in advance.
Donna Abique i mean if it’s on the 245music it’s pretty easy to connect, but i don’t have any idea about the other garmin watch, just look up some tutorials on YT about how to connect it, good luck :)
Had the Apple Watch and honestly hated it, would constantly have issues whilst music was playing and don’t even get me started with the sweaty swiping. Got the garmin forerunner 45 and love it!! So accurate and simple. Just using an old iPod shuffle for music. Nice review Zach 👏🏾
I actually feel like the Garmins are plenty fashionable. I'm not a fashion-conscious person by any means, but I have people who aren't runners comment on my Garmin all the time saying "Hey, nice watch!" or something similar.
I have the Garmin Forerunner 945. It's a bit overkill for what I need it for since all I do is run, but the features are amazing for someone who loves metrics. Also, I hated having to use the touchscreen during my workouts on my Apple Watch 3. I use my Garmin all day and stopped wearing my Apple Watch 3.
Apple and the running apps should make some improvements with an update specifically in the running aspect. The apple watch Series 4 44 nm is the only fitness watch I got, and its great measuring, recording and the ecosystem itself, the connection across all my apple devices is just great. Is just matter of some updates if the developers really want to please the running community. I wouldn’t totally give up on this apple watch for such little things that could be improved with updates, because literally when Im without the phone I have everything on the watch, music, I can make calls, audio recording, I can access all my social media just from my wrist with certain apps, have the latest pics I’ve taken from my library in the iphone, calendars, heart rate mesaures, electrocardiograms,and lots of things more. And I can literally record from the workout app any activity I do, as swim, soccer, basketball, jump the rope, run, walk, lift weights, everything.
HIya! i`d loke to know if the Garmin records your workout even if you leave your phone at home or if you have to have both devices with you all the time.
If you guys have an Apple Watch and want to pause your run or activity press both of the buttons on the side at the same time. It’s way more convenient especially for tempo work or any workout where you need to stop your time as fast as possible
im really not a runner but do a lot of gym based workouts, go for walks and am getting into cycling. I've been looking at both these watches. Which one do you recommend for what I do?
I use the Apple Watch Series 4 because it easily put my runs on Starvia and its very comfortable on my wrist. And plus I am a big Apple guy I can't leave be loved Apple Products, but I would get the Garmin for my Track Workouts!!
I have both watches and I agree with you it's really annoying to workout with apple watch I prefer the Garmin for working out and the apple watch for hang out
Great video and an honest comparison. When I ran more competitively, and for time, Garmin was my go to. Never had to worry about battery or the app crashing. Now that I run just because I love it, the Apple Watch is perfect. I agree if you are doing serious training and different types of workouts, the Apple Watch is not as seamless in operation compared to the Garmin, although it is coming along with each new generation. However, if you can only have one watch and want an all-arounder, the Apple Watch is the way to go.
Honestly, the apple watch would be perfect in you could actually use both buttons. If you could use the crown for stop/start and then the side button for laps, or you could still use the double-screen tap for laps (I don't sweat that much so it wouldn't be an issue plus it is easier than clicking the side button). They should have a sport lock feature to allow for that because I cannot tell you many time I have, instead of stopping my run clicking both buttons at the same , gone to the homescreen.
At first I had an Apple Watch and I don’t know it’s just not the same as a garmin. It was uncomfortable (a sports band might be more comfortable tho) and I just forgot to use it sometimes. Once I got my garmin it was so simple and comfortable to use. The physical buttons made it easier to record splits and easier to use in general. If you’re a serious runner definitely go with the garmin. If you run just to stay fit and could use an Apple Watch for everyday use also, go with the Apple Watch.
The Forerunner 245M is the best watch for running, period. Because it has buttons, it's precise, fast and has a lot of software updates. Lost mine in a trail race :(
I don’t know much about watches, but I have been using the Forerunner 35 for a while now and I think that it is a really good watch, fairly accurate and extremely comfortable. I’m just running to get better, and the Forerunner 35 suits me.
I have an Apple Watch and doing a track workout with it is the worst! That countdown always messes up my times because I hit it and it doesn’t actually start. Thanks so much for this video because now I know that the switch is worth it!!
Apple is a smart watch that pretend is also a sportwatch while Garmin is reall sportwatch. To reasons why Garmin is a way to go for sport activities. 1. Transflective display. The more the light the more getting brighter the display, which is the most important for outside. 2. Physical buttons. Outside when you run and move, buttons become your second nature and you press for pause, lap, stop e.t.c. without look in the screen or stop.
Do you always use GPS for workouts and runs or have you ever used footpods? My Garmin 245 has been pretty accurate for the most part, but I’ve heard connecting footpods are way more accurate and can show other metrics like power
Tbh I don’t get the Garmin in 2020. On an Apple Watch it takes two clicks to start a run and Apple health syncs perfectly to Strava. Pre-programmed intervals / sessions are one app away. The series 3 is also $100 cheaper and it can do 1000 more things like sleep tracking, reminders, navigation, tracking all kinds of activities etc.. Running watches were definitely better some years ago but it seems they are not even better at running anymore.
you can press the two buttons at the same time to pause and resume on the apple watch, you cant use that as a negative if you dont know how to use the watch
And in the workout app settings on your phone you adjust which metrics show and you can change to pause your workout by pressing both side buttons at the same time. Its still not that easy to pause though
I made the mistake of getting an Apple Watch, and later would find that if I wore sleeves it would sometimes end the workout or pause it without my knowledge
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I used apple watch for the past 4 years thinking I own fitness watch lol. Switched to forerunner 245 and found out how naive I was. Garmin is a true fitness tracker. No doubt
Ugh!!! The Apple Watch became my nemesis when I was training for triathlon. It was always lying to me and trying to make me feel too good about myself. I would run a 7:30 mile and it would say I ran a 5:45. I would swim a 1:45/100 yard pace and it would say I was swimming a 1 minute pace. While I would like to think I’m one of the fastest women in the world, it’s just not realistic. I switched to the Garmin Forerunner 945 and have been sadly reminded everyday how much slower I actually am. 🤷🏼♀️🤣
Hey your still faster then the day before right? Keep killing it. You are way faster then me. I just started learning how to swim lol.
Stevestech When it comes to swimming I feel like I get slower each day. I just started swimming in June myself and whenever I feel like I’m getting faster, my coach tells my I’m doing something wrong with my form so I have to fix it which sets me back initially. At least in the long run I may actually get fast. 🤞🏻Good luck on your training!! 🙌🏻
@@imterribee That was me when I began learning to run last June/July 22 years old at 250 pounds and about 40 percent body fat and not being able to run a block. Once I started being able to run 20+miles a week. I kept getting hurt. Had to adjust my Cadence, stride, foot landing, and started doing more toe strike rather then heel. I was slower, and getting fatigued faster initially but as the weeks progress I am actually getting faster injuring less(Also became Plant Based which I think helped ALOT). Now at 170 and low 20 percent BF, running, cycling, and hopefully swimming(once the pools reopen lol) changed my life. Keep up the awesome work, just subbed to your channel.
When did you switch?
Really? That's odd because I have a series 4 and it's incredibly accurate. I recently ran the LA marathon and my Apple watch said I ran a 7:49 average and my official time was just a second slower at a 7:50 (timed by the chip in my bib). A second off, and it may be because I started my run on the watch a second too soon, is as accurate as it gets.
You miss some features of the garmin apparently, Eg set intervals, where you program your intervals beforehand and it start, stops and laps automatically with workout specific metric. This is so cool. You can clear your head, you go at a beep, you stop at a beep, you pause at beep beep, you get the job done. It's like a personal coach on your wrist.
Tbh that is Not rly useable. Some Times you want to vary your break by a few seconds. For example if you want to get up the Bill before the next fast section of your run or maybe you just need a few more seconds of rest. Also your very limited in the kind of workout you can do and it just doesnt allow for the small changes you do mid workout.
This doesn't really work if you're running on a track. Sometimes it will beep 20m before you get to the actual finish line.
actually not true, just go to the app; training; workouts; then you can create a custom workout. you can use the lap button(not the start stop button, its actually the back button) to do intervals and don't have to relay on gps to tell you when your interval is done.
@@hansfabiankoeger8657 actually not true, just go to the app; training; workouts; then you can create a custom workout. you can use the lap button(not the start stop button, its actually the back button) to do intervals and don't have to relay on gps to tell you when your interval is done.
@@lewiswatt2597 actually not true, just go to the app; training; workouts; then you can create a custom workout. you can use the lap button(not the start stop button, its actually the back button) to do intervals and don't have to relay on gps to tell you when your interval is done.
Thank you Zach your conclusion is really good by stating "it depends on what type of person you are." Personally I consider running is a very precious time for me alone whenever I'm running easy days or hard workout days. The less distractions the better. So I even turn off the "Notifications" function of my Garmin 245. When I run, I only run.
Exactly how I feel :)
No joke this is exactly what I needed, I actually have the Apple Watch but was looking into getting the Garmin because of its “rugged” use. Thanks for making this video Zach because there is literally nothing on TH-cam with this same video idea.
I have a Garmin 25 and it is great it has a 1-month battery even if you do 4, 7 mile runs a week but I want to upgrade and these were the 2 watches I was looking at and I think I am going to stay in the Garmin world. They have the best training guides and resources out there. For some people, it just comes down to name brand and how recognizable it is.
Matthew Pinder I totally agree. Thanks for the feedback, I will take it into consideration!
Same here
What did you go for ? I’m about to upgrade from Apple Watch 4 to 7…. But all my running buddies have a Garmin
Forerunner 245 is absolutely amazing. had it for several months and love it. the perfect running watch
My Garmin automatically syncs to Strava, just have to go into the settings of the app
I have a 745 and it asked me if I wanted to link to Strava during the initial setup itself and yeah syncs automatically!
I rock the Garmin Forerunner 45S and let me just say it records everything so precise it’s kind of unreal. I’m still discovering new features everyday that just make my running experience even more enjoyable. Would recommend to anyone who runs, even if it’s only 2-3 days a week.
I also use that watch... I think it is cheaper than the one he is comparing. Definitely the best watch Ive had (granted Ive only had two)
I use a coros pace, the distance is a small bit off but it has a 25 hour gps battery and it records all of my metrics like stride length, cadence, heart rate etc., I would 100% recommend this to anyone, and it is fairly affordable for all those features
Just got my Forerunner 45 yesterday. Loving it already. Done few runs on the treadmill and cycle on the roller with my bike. Works as a charm
Zain Anwar hey, I’ve been looking to buy either the 45 or the 245. I don’t think I’m a competitive enough runner to warrant the 245. Have you missed any feature with the 45? Thanks !
Can it link to Spotify and Strava?
I just got my first pair of spikes!!
I know no one cares but I’m so excited!
I care xD congrats!
Nice, first spikes are always the most exciting 👍
Yay! that's the best feeling :)
i care! nice
whoop whoop!
I actually have both watches... yes I’m that person who sometimes wears two watches running please don’t judge. But I do want to let you know (if you don’t already) that if you double tap on the running screen on the Apple Watch it will create a “segment” that really helps during workouts! You can’t see the segments on the watch after they flash up after the tap but you can see them underneath your split times in the activity app on your phone. Hope this helps :)
Ally Bird that's actually so helpful. thanks!
You can press laps button on garmin. Strava creates common segments so you can compare your time with others for exactly the same segment
IT reviewers when the Apple device is lighter: "liGHtEr iS AllWAys bEtTer!"
IT reviewers when the Apple device is heavier: "HEavIEr iS mORe pREmiUm!"
😂🤣
The Apple Watch is just a mini phone whereas the Garmin is a running watch.
Apple Watch with Stryd is a great running watch.
@@adama.9836 How could use the Apple as a serious running watch the battery charge alone would be a major headache.
@@groundsheet how long you run? i finished a marathon with my aw5 (together with my garmin 645 M, I want to test the aw for its battery), i finished around 3 hours, aw5 had about 30% battery left
You said 11 mins video in one sentence, I am not going to spend 11 mins watching this video .
Apple Watch SE Rocks
You can pause and start the apple watch by clicking both the buttons lol.You can also sync data to strava from the original running app on the watch by downloading a 3rd party app on your phone. The metrics and data seen on the running app display can be changed on your iphones activity app. The apple watch might not be as convenient as the garmin, but definitely has more than enough tools to get the job done. Great video
Me over here the odd one out with a Fitbit Ionic
I have the Garmin 645 Music. I love how I can set my workouts beforehand and how it does the repeats and rest for me. Comfortable, light, and can measure anything you would want.
Zach really hit em with the hobby jogger
The OG footlocker xc shirt🔥
I’ve got both watches as well and I am able to close all my rings just using the Garmin. After it syncs onto Strava and I’m done with my runs I put my Apple Watch back on and I get the notifications of my rings being closed
I just started running again. I love stats in everything so I felt a garmin would keep me hype, Specially since I should be hitting current prs alot as I get back into shape. I felt bad ab spending 200 on a watch when strava records for free. But the watch is sooo much more accurate AND convenient. Strava had me running a 3:43 mile last week... haha... wtf... anyways Had the watch 3 weeks now, no regrets! Forerunner 235. I do carry my phone tho. So if u want music without a phone carry u might wanna go w the 245 music. It's like $349 tho. Great products! As far as apple watch. I'm sure its good at daily crap if u got an iPhone but I'd p iui ck garmin again 4sure... if u already have the apple watch def give it a try I guess but garmin seems to be killin it... and apparently has been 4 years!
1 thing you forgot to note is that Garmin watches are compatible with Android while Apple Watch isn’t.
TrentoNosko who has an android ha peasant😷
Bowl day
Imagine judging someone because of their phone, pathetic.
Yall need to chill and go for a run 😁
@@zekehowey Android is designed for poor peasants. That's just what it is. If you have a job and make good money... you would buy a premium device instead of garbage Android devices. 🤣
Loveme Tender lol, I’m just gonna assume this is a joke🤣
Zach is right, Before being in quarantine I worked out everyday, ran tempos, long runs, slow long runs, Fartleks, intervals, 8X800m 6X1K, 6X800m. I do everything with the watch and is very uncomfortable, but I already have it so I’m not going to another watch, I had to adapt. Great video Zach!
GARMIN all the way... I cannot express how amazing this watch is. I recently started running a good bit over the past 6 months and this is the best fitness watch that I have ever owned in my entire life. If you run alot, Go garmin. I have had both apple watch and Garmin 45, Id choose garmin any day all day!!!
Why Garmin?
I use Garmin and I love it works well my only complaint is that it deletes mileage from over a year ago meaning I can’t see my old mileage!
Silas Christie I like garmin but it’s is like 8 meters off of accuracy for a mile
Jason Vogt yeah true on the track it’s always slightly over
Jason Vogt mine is about a meter over max I just have the Garmin vivoactive nothing too fancy but it works great
Zach nailed it on this one. At the end of the day, if you are buying an Apple Watch to be your workout watch, you're buying the wrong watch. For me, at the end of the day I get more usability out of the Apple Watch because of all of its non-running features. My biggest gripe with it is still not being able to press the lap button during track/interval workouts
Just double tap the screen. Unfortunately lots of people that review the watch don’t know the many hidden features that give it an upper hand so they rate it worse.
I literally bought a Garmin yesterday and sold my Apple Watch! Damn, one day too early apparently
Nicolas you made the best choice the garmin is what real runners wear
I’m sure you’re the better for it.
Zac what happened to your nails. I never bothered to ask.
I have had Garmin watches before, got an iWatch5 for my running but I'm about to buy a Garmin 245. The Garmin does what it's supposed to the iWatch is too fiddly and changing metrics with a touchscreen while running is a pain. No harm having another watch and just using the Garmin for your runs, I think that's what I'll probably do. One plus of the iWatch is no need to take a phone with you as I have the cellular version but for pure running functionality, it's the Garmin every time.
Hobby Jogger 😭 My ass over here running 4:32 getting called a hobby jogger jk love you Zach you the 🐐
Also as a consideration on price, you have to have an iPhone to use an apple watch, which is significantly more expensive than android
My first running watch was an Apple Watch, it is a great watch, but as you said it just does not do well with workouts. So I went to eBay and bought a used Garmin 220 for $60 and that was one of the best purchases I have made. I solely wear my Garmin to run and that is it and I wear my Apple Watch the rest of the day.
I use the Garmin 735 and train with a guy who uses the Apple Watch. I can assure you that there are major inconsistencies with our distances. After running a half marathon, the discrepancy was .80 less for the Garmin. Needless to say, I trust the Garmin. The Apple Watch is more of a Swiss Army Knife. With that said, the Apple Watch is an anomaly for serious running. I will also say that heart rates are ambiguous for both devices when compared to Schose monitors.
Used to have an Apple Watch and I literally could not do a track workout bc it just does not work when you sweat
One other thing software wise, you have almost no programmability on the Apple Watch where the garmin is fully customizable. This wouldn’t necessarily be a problem except for that Strava’s distance tracker only goes to 1 decimal place, meaning that I wouldn’t have as good of an idea how much further I had to run. Other apps I tried on the Apple Watch had only options for average pace or were set up poorly.
Great review and very helpful. Totally in the same boat and this has nudged me to get the 245 to sit alongside my Apple watch which I will use for the cellular and music streaming capabilities 👍🏻
I think an important thing to note is the battery life. I returned my apple watch because it almost did too much and the battery life was terrible. My Garmin Forerunner 245 Music can last up to a couple of days and I can listen to music without my phone. I am forever loyal to Garmin at this point.
My Apple Watch is great I use NRC Nike run club. Which id like to know your opinion on that too. Only complaint is you’re right can’t ever get some different splits for different data and knowledge on myself and my runs such as I wish I could track lap time and it still goes to my total distance and this and that. Also it has only happened a couple times but I’ll run the same route and the time is very skewed from the mile I ran before and I was feeling like my effort was better. But NRC synces will all Apple Watch activity tracker. Hence why it’s the Nike watch
Great video Zach! I got 1 question and 1 hack:
Hack first: On the Apple Watch, you can skip the countdown by tapping the screen again which will start the workout immediately. Unfortunately you have to do it every time tho.
Question: Is there a way to sync your Garmin workouts back to the Apple ecosystem (making it count for your activity and rings)?
Yes there is a way! I have both watches and whenever I am done with my Garmin I put my Apple Watch back on and it closes my rings. I'm not entirely sure how I got it to work, but I think you have to sync the Strava app with the Activity app
Garmin Forerunner 245 is the best! I much prefer it and tested both myself.
Thank you! I was waiting for one of these videos because my watch just broke
i had the garmin 245music and im pairing it with my airpods pro, it works really well on the pairing mode and there’s no connectivity issue, i really like it :)
Hi there. Thanks so much for this comment. That’s actually I am worried about because I want to use my Airpods pro but I want to buy Garmin. Is it easy set up the pairing? Thank you in advance.
Donna Abique i mean if it’s on the 245music it’s pretty easy to connect, but i don’t have any idea about the other garmin watch, just look up some tutorials on YT about how to connect it, good luck :)
Had the Apple Watch and honestly hated it, would constantly have issues whilst music was playing and don’t even get me started with the sweaty swiping. Got the garmin forerunner 45 and love it!! So accurate and simple. Just using an old iPod shuffle for music. Nice review Zach 👏🏾
I actually feel like the Garmins are plenty fashionable. I'm not a fashion-conscious person by any means, but I have people who aren't runners comment on my Garmin all the time saying "Hey, nice watch!" or something similar.
I have the Garmin Forerunner 945. It's a bit overkill for what I need it for since all I do is run, but the features are amazing for someone who loves metrics. Also, I hated having to use the touchscreen during my workouts on my Apple Watch 3. I use my Garmin all day and stopped wearing my Apple Watch 3.
Apple and the running apps should make some improvements with an update specifically in the running aspect. The apple watch Series 4 44 nm is the only fitness watch I got, and its great measuring, recording and the ecosystem itself, the connection across all my apple devices is just great. Is just matter of some updates if the developers really want to please the running community. I wouldn’t totally give up on this apple watch for such little things that could be improved with updates, because literally when Im without the phone I have everything on the watch, music, I can make calls, audio recording, I can access all my social media just from my wrist with certain apps, have the latest pics I’ve taken from my library in the iphone, calendars, heart rate mesaures, electrocardiograms,and lots of things more. And I can literally record from the workout app any activity I do, as swim, soccer, basketball, jump the rope, run, walk, lift weights, everything.
HIya! i`d loke to know if the Garmin records your workout even if you leave your phone at home or if you have to have both devices with you all the time.
Order the garmin 245 yesterday. Came here hoping for confirmation that I made a good decision.
Forerunner all the way!😤
I have a forerunner 35 and it is really good for pretty much everything and for the really decent price
If you guys have an Apple Watch and want to pause your run or activity press both of the buttons on the side at the same time. It’s way more convenient especially for tempo work or any workout where you need to stop your time as fast as possible
im really not a runner but do a lot of gym based workouts, go for walks and am getting into cycling. I've been looking at both these watches. Which one do you recommend for what I do?
What do people think about Nike run club compared to Strava?
On the Apple Watch
You can always click both buttons on the side of Apple Watch in the normal workout app to stop workouts withour having to slide :)
I have the garmin forerruner 45 and it's pretty good so far
I use the Apple Watch Series 4 because it easily put my runs on Starvia and its very comfortable on my wrist. And plus I am a big Apple guy I can't leave be loved Apple Products, but I would get the Garmin for my Track Workouts!!
I have both watches and I agree with you it's really annoying to workout with apple watch I prefer the Garmin for working out and the apple watch for hang out
I have the Garmin forerunner 35 and it is my second Garmin watch. I'm a Garmin runner for life haha
Woah I saw this video 1 minute after you uploaded? Nice! Thanks Zach!
Great video and an honest comparison. When I ran more competitively, and for time, Garmin was my go to. Never had to worry about battery or the app crashing. Now that I run just because I love it, the Apple Watch is perfect. I agree if you are doing serious training and different types of workouts, the Apple Watch is not as seamless in operation compared to the Garmin, although it is coming along with each new generation. However, if you can only have one watch and want an all-arounder, the Apple Watch is the way to go.
I have the Forerunner 15 and Apple Watch and CANNOT stand the Apple Watch, its so annoying to try and pause 😂😂
Workout Outdoors app is a game changer - makes the Apple Watch an amazing hiking, cycling, and running watch.
Someone tell me why there isn’t a setting I can change to use to Digital Crown as a start/stop button
im not super big on running but this is video was actually perfect on information
Honestly, the apple watch would be perfect in you could actually use both buttons. If you could use the crown for stop/start and then the side button for laps, or you could still use the double-screen tap for laps (I don't sweat that much so it wouldn't be an issue plus it is easier than clicking the side button). They should have a sport lock feature to allow for that because I cannot tell you many time I have, instead of stopping my run clicking both buttons at the same , gone to the homescreen.
RUNNING!!🏃🏻♀️
At first I had an Apple Watch and I don’t know it’s just not the same as a garmin. It was uncomfortable (a sports band might be more comfortable tho) and I just forgot to use it sometimes. Once I got my garmin it was so simple and comfortable to use. The physical buttons made it easier to record splits and easier to use in general. If you’re a serious runner definitely go with the garmin. If you run just to stay fit and could use an Apple Watch for everyday use also, go with the Apple Watch.
I have the Garmin 245 does everything I need it to do
I'm so impressed with garmin tracking and battery longevity that it took less than a year before I upgraded from fr45 to fenix 6 pro.
A runner would never, I repeat NEVER choose ⌚️ over Garmin!
I like that you asked for subscribers in a clever way instead of begging for it as a lot of TH-camrs do
I too do all my long runs with an Apple Watch and Garmin. In most parts of SoCal the Apple Watch is always 0.07-0.08 miles over.
If you don't have the GPS version of the apple watch, do you have to carry your phone while running (with your non-gps apple watch)?
Hey bro!! Great videos!! I surf and I like to run and cycling.. Does the garmin has a surf mode? Or do you recommend another watch??
The Forerunner 245M is the best watch for running, period. Because it has buttons, it's precise, fast and has a lot of software updates. Lost mine in a trail race :(
If you hit both the buttons on the Apple Watch it will pause
Cool tip, thanks. Alternatively one can also swipe left and click on pause there.
Should I get the Apple Watch SE or the Apple Watch series 4 for running??
Zach, you are cool buddy, I am going with the Garmin 245 as an upgrade from the 235. I considered the Apple Watch, thank you for a great review here!
I went for the Garmin because of its battery life! It's amazing!
What about screen visibility in sunlight and battery life? 2 very important practical considerations when running.
I don’t know much about watches, but I have been using the Forerunner 35 for a while now and I think that it is a really good watch, fairly accurate and extremely comfortable. I’m just running to get better, and the Forerunner 35 suits me.
Your glasses are so dang awesome. 😍
RUNNING
Awesome video, thank you!
I have an Apple Watch and doing a track workout with it is the worst! That countdown always messes up my times because I hit it and it doesn’t actually start. Thanks so much for this video because now I know that the switch is worth it!!
Apple is a smart watch that pretend is also a sportwatch while Garmin is reall sportwatch.
To reasons why Garmin is a way to go for sport activities.
1. Transflective display. The more the light the more getting brighter the display, which is the most important for outside.
2. Physical buttons. Outside when you run and move, buttons become your second nature and you press for pause, lap, stop e.t.c. without look in the screen or stop.
Surprised I got here so early and I am glad I did! Love your content! :)
Do you always use GPS for workouts and runs or have you ever used footpods? My Garmin 245 has been pretty accurate for the most part, but I’ve heard connecting footpods are way more accurate and can show other metrics like power
Yes, they are much more accurate.
Best intro on TH-cam
I also face irritation for working out with Apple Watch. Hope they will improve with next version of watch os
Tbh I don’t get the Garmin in 2020. On an Apple Watch it takes two clicks to start a run and Apple health syncs perfectly to Strava. Pre-programmed intervals / sessions are one app away. The series 3 is also $100 cheaper and it can do 1000 more things like sleep tracking, reminders, navigation, tracking all kinds of activities etc.. Running watches were definitely better some years ago but it seems they are not even better at running anymore.
I have an Apple Watch and I like it, but why are wearing nail polish on your finger nails
Why not?
lucky247365 it was just a question. Stop being butt hurt
I got the Apple se and this particular Garmin watch. I use Apple for my daily activities whereas Garmin for specifically running.
you can press the two buttons at the same time to pause and resume on the apple watch, you cant use that as a negative if you dont know how to use the watch
I could not agree more with you. Nice video!
Size wise how much bigger is it than the 44mm Apple Watch 4? And how much smaller than a Fenix?
Would your opinion change given the forerunner 245 music?
Garmin hands down.. For fitness, Garmin outranks Apple. Apple if you want to follow the crowd, for athletics, ALWAYS GARMIN!
you can skip the apple watch countdown before a workout by clicking on it and it will go straight to the workout.
And in the workout app settings on your phone you adjust which metrics show and you can change to pause your workout by pressing both side buttons at the same time. Its still not that easy to pause though
bruh moment thank you my guy
Apples and oranges comparisons. If you have any desire to be a better runner, get a forerunner.
I made the mistake of getting an Apple Watch, and later would find that if I wore sleeves it would sometimes end the workout or pause it without my knowledge
Harrison you can lock the watch during a workout
Could you compare forerunner 645music with Apple Watch ? 645 is much better than 245