Evolution of the Keyboard // Jordan Rudess, ROLI [Design Driven NYC / FirstMark]
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- Jordan Rudess, legendary keyboardist and Head of Music Experience at ROLI, presented at Design Driven NYC in May 2015. Jordan spoke about designing a new instrument while performing several demonstrations of the ROLI Seaboard Grand.
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thats exactly the instrument ive had in my mind for years
The Seaboard: When the weird stuff the classical piano teachers say ("Dig in", "Flat fingers", "Release slowly") finally does something.
+euwbah haha so true
And yet it plays a lot different then a real piano. Obviouslt you might say, but it’s not that different in positioning. The tap is just much different all those years practicing don’t actually are actually working against you when you’r trying to be expressive...
Not entirely true. Pianos are very sensitive dynamically. Certainly you cant pitch bend or add vibrato but you can play quite expressively still. There may not be any aftertouch but the way you physically approach the keys can determine how the notes sound. There's a bit of semantics involved but it still makes a difference.
This is really a milestone in the whole history of music.
This keyboard did bring it to a whole other level❣️
He is like a sensei
+Germo91 he is.
Germo91 or like zz top, but very light version
master
He used to teach, so, he is technically
wow, speechleess, what a concept and the master Jordan himself!
I'd really like to hear a high quality Duduk sound being played with the Seaboard. That's my favorite instrument.
Having come over to keys from guitar, this is freaking awesome!!!!
Feel free to place one of those in my home, thank you very much, I won't stop you! :D
This is definately a revolution this device.
I admit that it is a revolutionary design and a fantastic innovation. I love its look and feel. Jordan Rudess is the Progressive Musical Prophet and I can only think of him bringing the God's "seaboard message" to the masses :)
In addition, players must be named as "seaboardist", rather than "pianist" or "keyboardist". As an example, Cory Henry plays it as a keyboardist and not so fancy ( sorry no offence.. ).
On the other hand Marco Parisi plays it as a "seaboardist". When you watch their youtube videos back to back, you'll see the difference and what I mean.. :)
The main reason is the playing mechanics cause a disadvantage for a classical pianist to benefit as it is in this form. It is quite hard to get CLEAN NOTES while playing either "Presto", "Vivace" or even any tempo with an "Accelerando".
It seems to me that this instrument - with the way it is - may only serve to synth type players or movie composers. And maybe to amateur hobbyists ( if the price drops significantly ! ).
Regards,
Since I'm primarily a guitarist, I always felt that the traditional keyboard was limited in terms of expression. After seeing the demonstration of the Roli, I think I've found a synthesizer input solution that approaches or surpasses the expressiveness of a guitar or violin. But are you limited to the proprietary synthesizer software that comes with it? And how well does the Roli play with the hardware synthesizers I already own?
It's not like a linnstrument or some other left field idea that encapsulates the ideas of the seaboard, but completely revamps how we play on the thing
The seaboard is an evolution of the keyboard/piano. Taking a familiar concept like the keyboard, applying ideas for expressive playing (vibrato, slide, etc) but passing them through the filter of how humans approach music playing and keeping the concept of human touch in mind with the squishy surface
It truly is the melding of expressive playing, human familiarity and human interfacing. It's a keyboard, but also not. It's a digital instrument with an analog ideology
That opening rendition was nuts.
the focus for me is his skill and connection with the instrument and music. I have a seaboard 61, im not sponsored, and I love it! it is its own creature ... im a synthesist but this is like the Star Wars version of an instrument... I feel very Sithy when I jam! 😜✌️
It IS the FUTURE ! ! ! Great job !
Guitarists are just envious that we (keyboardists) can emulate them and they can not emulate us. Jordan is awesome and so it ROLI!!
keyboard and piano emulation exists on MIDI guitars.
Sorry, but that's ALL you can do. The VERY essence of Keyboard makes notes discrete. What this thing is doing, like the Haken is interpolating a continuum. a Guitar string IS a continuum.
All you are doing is what you said yourself, EMULATING. Is not the real thing, is an imitation.
For a guitarist to emulate a piano all they have to do is learn how to tap properly, check out Stanley Jordan, Chris Broderick and Guthrie Govan.
Try playing Chopin or Liszt on a guitar emulating the piano (or anything requiring large polyphony) lmao
You sound like music is a competition?
That was irony in case you didn't undetstand ;) peace...
The subtitles on at 2:42 is pretty funny
You mean that's *not* the name of his band?
Drain Theater :P Not so funny though I 've seen muuuuuch worse subtitles
It goes on to talk about rape...
Love it and 100% the way forward 🎹
He's playing the Sitar on a keyboard! Amazing! Hey Jordan! Where's the Tabla?
That nylon guitar sound was a beaut
takes time to master this.
i think deep down inside Jordan wanted to play Guitar lol. he is a great pianist but i don't see why he always has to play distortion Guitar sounds on a keyboard. he definitely has the fingers that are more then fast enough to learn to play guitar and shred the crap out of it.
totally agree with you bro! He should play guitar .......lol....
i think that too, actually he can play quite good , search on youtube "Jordan Rudess Guitar Shredding" from liquid tension experiment show
Lead sounds and distortion are not exclusive for guitars. Keyboards and guitar do things the other can't do. That's the beauty of music.
10 notes that can be played simultaneously > 6 notes
a keyboard layout is more efficient for playing more notes, plus there's binomial muscle memory
but stringed instruments are more expressive
why not get the best of both worlds
Jordan can play guitar pretty well, he's insanely talented at everything.
I feel like I would really like this. My main instrument is guitar, so whenever I play a keyboard I instinctively try to do vibrato by wiggling my fingers on the keys
Coolest thing ever !
This is so different expression that my brain doesn't feel comfortable with it. It still waits for sharp switch of sound, rather that bending :)
Looks amazing !
it remind me a of the movie Prometheus when the engineers work with the control station
He is the Gandalf of synth.
That thing is pretty wild. Looks like it is very comfortable and easy on the fingers. I like the bending, but it always sounds very soft, like you have to bend EVERY note, or is it the constant echo that makes it sound noisy?. Can't you get sharp notes without the echo like the guitar?
That sax sounds really good
Great Video. May I request you to listen in depth to the sounds and timber of the INDIAN INSTRUMENT "SARANGI" and "SEHNAI". They are extremely difficult to be emulated in any synth. I think seaboard is the perfect instrument to recreate them.
Mr. Jordan just showed this Roli seaboard a good time
I like this, mod wheels and stuff are limiting to use, this is "mostly" a lot nicer approach!
Me I bought two seaboard blocks. I would like to understand more the difference with this one. Thanks
13:47 WOW!!!! Just beautiful!...
Yes bro You could give clasess for Jesús molina
that beard looks glued on
You look glued on.
Does this keyboard allow you to play guitar sounds much more realistically since you have independent finger control over notes? Or even brass instruments like Saxaphone?
Can't believe he's 61 now....Doesn't look it, but he's at least 6 years older than all the other members of DT I think
Wait a minute ... "I studied a lot at Juliard ..." "and then when I became a teenager ..." ?!?!?!?!?!?
+Ron Fleming He entered very young.
obrigado por existir
My goodness, this dude can play whatever kind of keyboard 🎹 ! John Petrucci would love to compete /jam with that!
well the crucial question is what vst is he using during 60% of the show? bcuz of course not Equator..
Man, that kind of shit is right up Rudess' alley !
I, Jordan, blessings from Chiapas, Mexico.. With this keyboard we have all features with midi.. Thinking of mixing technology.. With these keyboard, someday, we can use an iPad Pro, with a midi interface with MainStage and pro logic app, that is not available right know, but just dreaming😉, to play split, and layers? When you think this is going to be possible? Right know, I'm supposed that it's possible with midi, splits and layers with this keyboard?
It probably needs its own sample library.
16:46 light up
THE MASTER.
I tried it out in the store and its not comfortable for the fingers for an extended time. I havent heard much about it since, im sure its going out of business
Very interesting, thank you. Actually, one of the first things I noticed was that you can't bend a note more than an octave. But perhaps that's a MIDI limitation; I can't think why else the bending would stop there.
+Jim Delaney It's not a MIDI limitation, some of my synths can bend up or down several octaves, and will send that MIDI data out no problems... Maybe a programmed limitation in the controller?
I discovered more about the ROLI and MIDI. You can bend the pitch by sliding a finger from one keywave to the next and onward, but to match the bent pitch with the pitch you would get by tapping on that same place, you have to set the pitch range to ±12 semitones, i.e. one octave up or down.
did not know that schillinger is so musical.
The trick is not to sound like a computer, if we can do that, I'm all In.
It's not the "royal school of design" - that's in Denmark.
I suspect it's the RCA, Royal College of Art.
he is good!!!! the beard is in wright place dude tell'n you !!
Wow! An instrument that lets you modulate pitch, timber, and tone all while playing! That's so unique! Nothing else like it!
(Except pretty much all brass instruments)
TheFalcoSparverius And every stringed instrument.
But you can't use these as midi controllers
(except for guitars with midi pickup)
Can anyone suggest a suitable keyboard stand for the Seaboard Grand Stage (the 61 key version)? Ideally taking into account the lateral movement caused by the vibrato gesture. In my case it'll be staying in one place so it doesn't need to be portable. Incidentally, does anyone know which stand Jordan is using for this demonstration?
So much expressive potential for a unique sound... but keyboardists keep trying to emulate guitars...
im a keyboard player and dont try to imitate guitar at all lol its just these dudes.
If you've been listening to guitars your whole life and you finally get a tool that delivers.....then.
In a few years we'll start to hear what can really be done with this thing...
Pitch bending and vibrato are not guitar exclusive. This instrument gives keyboardists new possibilities of expression.
Because they can emulate every other tonal change, except for glissando.
***** true. That is alot of fun. 😆
I really like the melody at 21:30. Is there any name :)?
i see the future. first this will be the only instrument learned in school. then this will be the tool that will be used for those self learning programs eliminating the musician. its just that good. god i hope I'm wrong.
We came here because of the beard. For no reason.
i want that sound from 17:20 on dream theater's new album
+Michal Szeman home.
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+Michal Szeman Tamboura
need Evolution of the Keyboard for the pc to :D
Price? Availability...?
So does this design have poly aftertouch?
Its super cool but...... can it sound like a piano/keyboard? Everyone always uses it to make all these cool sounds that I wonder if it can actually sound like a piano?
+Jarom Eubanks It doesn't make any sounds, it is only a MIDI controller, it sends MIDI note and continuous controller data to a synthesizer or a computer with some VSTi running in a DAW.
So yes, with a sample player loaded with any piano sample set, it can sound like a piano.
+Jarom Eubanks Well, for that, you can get an actual piano. Or a simple keyboard controller with piano sounds.
Since the piano doesn't have vibrato or aftertouch or continuous pressure sensitivity, sounding like a piano defeats the whole purpose of getting this controller...
+foljs I think it is a legitimate question. Sometimes you need a plain piano sound and you don't want to have two pieces standing around.
@aandarcom Yea I know, Im just going crazy trying to find someone playing it as an actual piano and not some sort of alien language contact space thing.
+Joerg Fritsch Well, not very legit. This is expensive and with a very specific purpose. People who buy it pressumably already have several conventional controllers. It's not meant to be used as a spare when a regular piano/keyboard isn't around.
I NEED IT
How many sea blocks is that
Jordan doesn't need to play guitar, just the Seaboard Rise.
I wish I could afford one of these but they're very expensive in my opinion.
+Freddy Flores actually they gone significantly cheaper with release of RISE versions :)
Una excelente opción para todos aquellos "guitarristas" frustrados que nunca pudieron dominar las cuerdas por indisciplinados y se pusieron a tocar teclado.
The next shiny new toy Gizmo. Buddy can play though. Kids, learn to play before you buy one.
Great Sampling.OK
is this a midi input?
does he use Equator ?
That beard is the coolest shit ever
TARKUS!!!!
Alien from "Battleship"?
Ты не удивил Меня никак
Why does no one play this with two hands????
WHAT A SILLY KEYBOARD.
You mean game changer lol yes it is
can someone give me the link to buy this weird piano?
www.google.com/
vst?
Other instruments be like: should we die?
why dont you make it out of silk that way we feel like we are dreaming or in bed comfortable
Why the heck would Cr🍎 remove the lightning in the back of the screen. It’s lost too much charm and elegance‼️
I've got a couple of Jordan's videos.....of course he had a lot more hair then
It looks like it would be difficult to play in anything other than C major.
David Marsilia maybe you set the key
L. J. Sprague Well that's one idea, but then how do you modulate between the keys? It seems like even Jordan had some difficulty with that.
Is there a bigger MUSICAL GENIOUS in the world right now??? I mean... who the fuck would've come up with this shit?? my jaw is just on the floor right now...
+Mauro Perasso Actually, this is not a new idea... people have been trying for awhile now. The tech just finally caught up with what the designers want. The Seaboard is the next logical step from the Haken Continuum.
I want your hand😭😭😭
Eauwwww
It's such a shame that the Roli had such poor implementation on the DAW side of things.
He would look so much better without that beard
я так же кмею
Good thing for ROLI there are above 1 000 000 000 people in India ...
Roli Seaboard > Linnstrument
Auto tune must hate this thing. “Music with feel? ...absolutely not!”
I wonder what Daft Punk could do with something like this.
I really wish someone could answer one question for me.. What can the Seaboard do that I can not already do with all my sets of keys, and pedals, and ribbon controllers, and mod wheels, and pitch benders, and sliders, and knobs, and joysticks. It's not enough for a controller to be "new", it has to bring something new to the "table".
David Vaughan I'm starting to think it's aimed at a younger generation of synth players... Oh well.
It's as if you didn't watch the video...it's to take the need of pitch benders, wheels, sliders, etc. away. There's one piece he plays where he's doing normal notes on the left hand, but on his right hand, doing separate notes that he only needs one hand to bend the pitch. On a standard controller, you would need to use the other hand to bend pitches, use sliders, etc. and you miss out on getting lower or higher notes to create a fuller sound. If you wanted to play normal deep notes, but still bend pitches on separate higher notes on a standard controller, you'd "need a third hand" as Rudess says in the video.
Matt Warren Yes I have watched the videos. The Point™ is that they only real use it seems for the Roli is in a "live" setting. There is nothing a Roli can do in a studio setting that can not already be done, (or is already being done).
Yeah, you can still do the same stuff in a studio, but with the Seaboard, a lot can be done more easily, and again, with less equipment to have to set up.
+looneyburgmusic please take a picture of the rig you need to setup in order to execute this level of playability - guarantee it is more cluttered, messy, and difficult to setup...this board is an evolution of keyboard controllers, meant for musicians, not DIY tinkerers who have time to piece together componens
Some Commenters sound so ignorant...... they must really be drummers