Thank you. Bought a 4910 based of this video. I have always been a Stihl and Husky guy using mostly 200/201t and then 70cc and up saws. 4910 seems like an amazing value and Echo has really stepped up their game it seems in general.
Echo has made some big strides in the past 3 years or so with their saws and leaf blowers. The CS-7310 is a beast of a saw for a great price compared to other of it's size. And the PB-9010 is the new big bad wolf of backpack leaf blowers.
thank you for the parts break down, very informative. As a full time tree service, I've run mostly Echo for over 25 years , the metal handle, the captured nuts and the molded coil wire to the shut off switch are well worth it for $100, that being said when customers ask about saws, I tell them the 4910 and the 590 timber wolf are the best bang for buck deal out there.
That is a thoughtful presentation. I was under the impression that the transfer ports were different in the 4910. Also, I believe the ignition module in the 501p allows for higher RPMs. What I'd really like to see is side by side cuts in the wood.
Should have a 4910 here by Thursday. Complete tear down will follow shortly after that. I'm a big fan of companies "marketing a price point" on these different models. Increasingly the product supplied shares the same base of "pro" models, throwing a good value bone to the diy community. The 501P has been an under rated contender since its introduction.
They should be reaching your dealers VERY soon if they haven't already. Make sure to ask your local dealer about it because it might be a situation where they don't want to put it on display until they sell out of their CS490 inventory.
I swapped the original Walbro carb for a Shindaiwa 501sx carb. The tuning screws are longer and it makes it MUCH easier to tune compared to the Echo carb.
Hi and thanks for the informative video. I just moved to a place that has some acreage. I'm looking to buy my first chainsaw. I don't know anything other than most people say Stihl and Husqvarna are the best. Echo runs a close third. I see that both Stihl and Husqvarna are more expensive than Echo, but sometimes you are paying a premium for the"name" and the product is not a whole lot different. It looks like you know Echo chainsaws pretty well. I have up to $450.00 to spend on a saw to maintain my property and cut up downed trees for firewood. Some trees are 24+ inches and more. One thing I must take into consideration is my lack of mechanical knowledge. I probably won't be able to repair the saw myself if something tore up. I don't even know how to adjust the carburator. We have ONE local outdoor power equipment service center and they sell Stihl products. I assume they can probably work on other brands, but I don't know that for sure. We have an ACE Hardware that sells Echo products, but they don't service any equipment. If you had my budget, what chainsaw would you purchase if you couldn't work on it yourself?
Speaking with my echo dealer about this he said that the 501 p still has more power than the 4910 and has captive bar nuts and an aluminum handle essentially the 4910 vs501p is just like the comparison of the timber wolf and the 620 the 4910 is the prisoner model and the 501p is the fully professional saw . That being said this video was excellent and answered all the technical questions about this topic that I didn't even know I wanted answered excellent video sir
Thanks for having thorough quality information for people to make an informed decision on things keep up the great work bro I'll keep tuning in for sure , I'm about to buy myself A shindaiwa 731(echo7310) for myself for my birthday and id love to you do some part for part comparison on the shindaiwas vs echos just to see if they really are the same saws with different colored shirts on
Oh and one more thing he said is that like the 591 being a limited or governed engine the 501 is ungoverned or limited which is a large part of it's higher power I have both the 501p and 620 but I'm thinking about grabbing a 4910 to replace my little husky that I use for limbing and storm cleanup cause the price is amazing and the power it has makes it much more versatile than my lil husky in that I could use the 4910 to handle much larger wood if it was the only saw I brought with me. One other question I had is whats your opinion on jonsered/red max vs husqvarna cause I have a jred 2172 which is supposed to be the same engine as the 372 xp xtorq all I can say on the matter is that I've used the 372 xtorq side by side with it and the jred just feel way more comfortable for me than the 372
So revisiting this a few months later I’d like to admit I was wrong the 4910 and 501p are the same saw the only difference is the 4910 has a plastic handle this has been confirmed by two separate mechanics that have ported multiple of both models
I had a 490 and now have a 501P. Great saws, you really can’t go wrong with a 490, 4910 or 501P. Personally I’m not into the 4920. For me I love the 501P. Does everything I need it to do.
Thank you for this video , I have been trying to decide which way to go as far as buying the right size from the start . This helped a lot , it looks like the 4910 I guess
I just bought a modded CS-4910. Haven't even had a chance to try it yet. Looking at your video and the Echo parts diagrams, I see a couple of things that could affect performance. 1. Different ignition module in the 501-p might allow higher RPMs. 2. Pro-Lite guide bar (lighter?) 3. FULL Chisel Chain I sure do like the light weight and how it feels in your hands. I would like to see a side by side video of a stock CS-4910 vs a CC-501p. Then one with them both running a FULL chisel chain.
Sure seems like the 501p is indeed the pro model version of the two. I’d much prefer to own the pro grade saw and so would a lot of my customers. The value though in the 4910 is really good
The CS-4910 is an excellent value! I think that it will cause a slight drop in CS-501P sales, but I think it's bigger impact will be in the amount of upsales from CS-4510 saws. The gap in power and performance is now a lot bigger than it was between the CS-4510 and the CS-490.
I’d do the 4910 and find a handle off of a blown 501p. I’m particular about bar and chain combos anyway so that’s a non issue Great Video!! I’ll check out your other content!!
501P is in X series, as of March 2021, X series is only eligible for the 15% off dealer promo. 4910 does not qualify. therefore, the choice is clear if you can wait for sale.
Yeah that was another smart move by Echo to really help their customers and themselves. We keep saying that Echo is making a lot of great moves with their equipment. They have the promotion going on right now with the consumer products where you get the pair of $20 clippers for free, and the the 1 Day Sales Event for a lot of dealers. All of this at a time when a lot of other manufacturers are struggling to even get product to dealers and have no promotions going on. Another big move by Echo to steal market share from Husqvarna/Redmax, and Stihl
@@EshlemaniaTV yes, smart. I put my Stihl homeowner saw for sale on Offerup, sold less than 1 day. took the cash to echo dealer and upgraded to pro model. Sold all my Stihl and Husky through the years to fund new equipment from echo/shindawia one day sale. used to be 20%, now its 15% sale
Those are good features to have for sure. That aluminum handle with the rubber over wrap will take out more vibration than the plastic one. On a side note for anyone that's wondering, it costs less than $100 to add the aluminum handle and captured bar nuts to the CS-4910.
In France/Uk we have 501 sx, same deal but comes standard with 18" or 20" sugihara Pro solid bar, maybe emissions is different. 20% sales tax I know that! Anyway, if you can get it, narrow kerf .325 chain on a light sugihara 16" bar is a beautiful combo on this thing, extremely light, balanced and very fast, makes a lot of firewood very quick. Used the full length of the 20" in red oak a few times (sharp chain) and I'm impressed how good it is. Beyond that its dolkita 7900 time. Also mine came with a nylon air filter, for anything other than freezing conditions the flock type does a better job.
You are correct that the CS-490 is a 50 cc saw. We were going to talk about how the CS490 is a 50 cc saw, but not the same engine because it has a different cylinder assy than the CS501 and the new CS4910. We decided not to elaborate on that and it wasn't til the video was posted that it was realized that part was not elaborated on.
So it's kinda like the 590 Timberwolf, 600P and the 620. Mind you 620 was different in some ways but they used more plastic on the Timberwolf to reduce costs, and maybe a different coil with rpm limits, 600 a few more things until phased out, then the 620 had metal handles, clutch cover, unlimited coil
600P was just a 590 with a rim sprocket and aluminum handle, mechanically they were the same. Where as the 620P has different cylinder porting, ignition, and a larger carb.
The 490,4910,590,620p,7310p all have an “open can”muffler although the outlet on some models is very restricted(especially the 490). The 490,4910, and 501p have a removable restrictor baffle that can be taken out with the 2 screws that hold the deflector on.
Great comparison video! But, the cs-490 is also a 50.2cc engine. Not sure why the part number on the carb would be different. I would love to see a comparison video like this between the 590 and the 620p.
I second this. My understanding was that compared to the cs490 the cs501p has better porting, less restrictive muffler, and unlimited ignition coil. Very similar to the difference between the CS590 and the CS620p although I believe the 620p runs a two ring piston and a larger venturi carb compared to cs590.
I did not understand if there is a difference in the antivibration system. For the 501 Echo says that it is standard. It is made with four small pieces of rubber as I saw repairing a lot of them. For the 4910 on the site it is written that it is a spring antivibration system. Do you confirm that or is it just a mistake? Maybe in the next generation Echo will finally adjust this big disadvantage versus his competitors. Unfortunately I really appreciate the difference of comfort between the spring and the rubber system when I work.
The anti vibration springs are the same between the C-501P and the CS-4910. The big difference is that the CS-501P has an aluminum front handle with a rubber overlay while the CS-4910 has a plastic front handle with no rubber overlay. The front handle is part of the anti vibration system and although the plastic handle on the CS-4910 works well, the aluminum handle with the rubber overlay just works better at deadening the vibrations from the saws engine.
Thanks for the reply. Maybe it is an error of mine because I'm not English, but when I read "spring" I understand a metal "roll" and not a rubber shock absorber. I would like that Echo will use the same type of antivibration system that Husqvarna, Stihl, Dolmar etc started to use many years ago. The differences between a metal spring and a rubber absorber is tangibile when you use the chainsaw many hours a day like I did when I worked as lumberjack. So, have I understood wrong or is there a mistake from Echo on the site?
Are they phasing out the 501p like the 490? If not, I’m confused why they would have such similar saws in the 50cc lineup.If they would have had the 4910 a year ago I would have chosen it to save $100 over the 501p that I bought. I’m hoping in the future that we’ll get an actual new design 50cc saw like the 7310 with its better air filtration system and a similar new 60cc saw. The air filtration system on the current 50-60cc is the only weak point.
Not sure, but would not be surprised if they do not come out with something to replace the CS501P since they are revamping quite a few other saws in their line up. But then again, Husqvarna has multiple 50 cc saws in their line up at various prices and they keep selling. So I guess only time will tell.
Any thoughts on going with a Stihl MS-250 or the Echo CS-4910. I have a small hobby farm with decades of tree neglect. The Stihl repair shops is 60 miles away and Echo dealer is local. The Stihl is $300 (on sale) vs Echo of $359. Both 18” bars. I know the Stihl has some starting issues for some. Echo has some nice features the Stihl does not have or may even need.
@@EshlemaniaTV Thank you, I was thinking the same. My Brother in law lives-breaths GMC, John Deere and Stihl. Although he currently runs a Stihl 440 and burns wood all year. His version is probably better then the current crop of machines.
Don't do it. I made the mistake of buying the ms-250 when it was on sale last year. At the time I only compared it to the ms-271. 45cc vs 50cc for $100 less seemed like a bargain. I wanted the ms-261 for it's power to weight but couldn't justify the price for mostly just a firewood saw. Unfortunately, Echo wasn't even on my radar. It seems a lot of people are still stuck on the Stihl vs Husqvarna bandwagon. The "starting issues" with the 250 is a non issue if people just quit flooding it. 5 pulls max on full choke no matter what. I learned the hard way too. The saw is weak and not a good value when you compare it to the Echo lineup however. I bought the ms250 local for $300. Then there's additional cost for replacing the slow safety chain. $30 each for rs. Buy 2 get 1 free. Add in the cost for all the overpriced oils to get the warranty extended plus tax, you're close to $400. For perspective, I bought my CS-590 Timberwolf 24" bar online from sawsuppliers with a discount code from the chainsaw shack for well under $400 shipped to my door & they threw in a bunch of nice Echo swag. It has 60cc vs 45cc, metal case vs plastic clamshell, includes the long warranty, & comes with Oregon powermatch chain. It's an absolute beast compared to the ms-250. It pulls that 24" with authority while the Stihl struggles with it's 18" The 590 cuts way faster, feels a boatload stronger, and keeps me from having to bend over all the time. They're not even in the same class, yet the CS-590 doesn't really cost but a few dollars more when you put everything into perspective. Echo really has a "prosumer" line with the 4910 and 590 that has no competition. They reverse engineered their pro saws without taking much away from build quality. I will say, I like the Stihl flip caps and would like Echo to move to a pleated automotive style air filter across the line like what the ms-271 has or better yet, the 7310p, but the ms250 air filter is even worse. It's garbage. Having a rim sprocket instead of the spur sprocket on the Timberwolf would have been nice too though it's been a non issue except once when it threw the chain while I was working on a stump that had grown into some fence.
@@Jeremy_810 Thanks for the info. My wife had already purchased the Stihl in November for a Christmas gift. Took it back today to the dealer! Getting the 4910 next week. Looking forward to it. I looked at it a couple days ago, feels much better in hand then the Stihl. The CS-590, even though only a few dollars more, its heavier and likely more machine than I need or want to carry around. Who knows, the Echo dealer likes that 590 and could easily talk me into it! One of them is coming home.
@@kentheis105 The 4910 is the best value in the 50cc class. Not to mention that it has a magnesium pro style case instead of the plastic clamshell that you get with a Stihl or Husky. I bought a 501p 2 years ago but I would have chosen the 4910 if it had been available. I decided against the 590/620p because they weigh 3 pounds more. Just depends what you need it for. I just use mine for storm cleanup. All awesome saws and better build quality for the money.
Are the bottoms of both saws the same? I ask because I want to get a skid plate but I can only find one for the 490/4910. I’m guessing it should fit the bottom of a501p? Thank you
I know I am a year late in the game here but I just picked up a 4910 because of the absolute minuscule differences between it and the 501p. Could not be happier with my decision. I took the carburetor limiter tabs off of the high and low screws immediately and I have to say that it runs like a raped ape! For a 50cc saw it is a little bully. I will be ordering the 501p aluminum handle to put on my 4910. But other than that it doesnt need anything else!
X series are best in class saws, as in comparison to other saws in the same class, for value, price, specs, etc. So the 501P is considered best in class compared to the husky 550xp, stihl 261c, makita EA5000/DCS5121(dolmar saws) for being the lightest saw in its class.
Hello, my cs 4510 es saw also has a plastic handle. I want to replace it with an aluminum rubber handle. Can you let me know if it fits the Hagi model. Will the Cs 501 sx fit?
I came across your vid since I picked up a near new cs4910 that had a busted clutch cover. Hoping you would say the cs501p was an alloy replacement. Nope! Both plastic. But the orange cover off the cs501p is constantly 10 bucks cheaper than the cs4910. Prefer the orange covers anyway
Bir cs 4510 es Motorlu testereye sahibim. Ne yazıkki ülkemde 4910 henüz yok. Ancak bi ev sahibi testere için cs 501 sx e yükseltme planlıyorum. Sanırım en baştan bunu yapmalıydım. Bu aleminium tutamak ile Magnezyum karter ayrıntısını iyice araştırmadan tercih yapmam hata oldu. 4510 umda en sevdiğim ve 501 sx de olmayan şey ise plastik takoz değil titreşim önlemek için yay kullanılması
Echo says that the CS-4910 has 3.3 horsepower. You can check out the fact guide that Echo put out here: facebook.com/EshlemaniaTV/photos/pcb.1396483794016140/1396476834016836/
The Echo 4910 chainsaw has plenty power cut tree down , cut limb , stumps, its all about what you can afford chainsaw remember you paid for what you get today's world plus how you take care of it chainsaw 2910 chainsaw awesome Remember all chainsaw are dangerous cheap or expensive safety first always you can't go wrong 4910 chainsaw this you are business cutting trees down for living than go bigger chainsaw
Those air filtes kinda suck . We have had to glue the two halfs together with silicone to stop them leeking dust in. My old echo 5200 at least had a good air filter. I really wanted to like the new echos but they are way behind the new stihl 261s.
All these things you don't know why part numbers are different but look the same it's because all those parts on the 501p that are different are higher quality parts made to last longer
The CS 490 Echo is a good saw Cause it is light weight but the Plastic Garbage isn't that good but I cut any tree down with a MS170 just as good but the 16 CS3010 is a waste the Timberwolves are for the people who use thease Daily Ms 290 an Ms 170 from Styhl the, Mark|| Husqvarna isn't good plastic and also clutch cover I'm selling my CS 4910 had for 1 year and a half and the plastic clutch covers with the Bar clutch assemble has to be tighten loosen to make it cut Straight sux I'm selling mine on eBay tomorrow for 260 on eBay ! The 20inch Timberwolf CS 5010 is way better the Way to tighten the Chain on the bar an clutch cover sux! That metal junk gets hist in the clutch bolt to were you take that plate off an it burns your chain cause the screws are Garbage!!!
Pro saw will have a Magnesium crankcase provides lightweight durability. to the cheap saw witch will have a non meteal crankcase with a metal lining . Cheap saws have more plastic fantastic .
In the case of the 4910 to the 501, this isn't the case. Both have magnesium cases. Everything is the same on the 501 vs 4910 except the coil, the plastic vs aluminum front handles, the rubber rear handle cover and the color of the two side covers. That's really it.
You win the best chainsaw video review for the 2022 season so far.
Thanks!
Thank you. Bought a 4910 based of this video. I have always been a Stihl and Husky guy using mostly 200/201t and then 70cc and up saws. 4910 seems like an amazing value and Echo has really stepped up their game it seems in general.
The CS-4910 is a great saw at a great price! Echo is making some big moves with their equipment and it is really paying off for them.
I picked up a 4910 last month and I’m really liking it. I’ve always been a Stihl guy but these new Echo saws are top notch.
Echo has made some big strides in the past 3 years or so with their saws and leaf blowers. The CS-7310 is a beast of a saw for a great price compared to other of it's size. And the PB-9010 is the new big bad wolf of backpack leaf blowers.
thank you for the parts break down, very informative. As a full time tree service, I've run mostly Echo for over 25 years , the metal handle, the captured nuts and the molded coil wire to the shut off switch are well worth it for $100, that being said when customers ask about saws, I tell them the 4910 and the 590 timber wolf are the best bang for buck deal out there.
Thank you, just picked up my 4910!
Great info! I have the 501p and love it but that 4910 is basically the same saw. Thanks for the breakdown.
Thanks for watching and commenting
My 4910 I grabbed because lot of dealers didnt have. I bot 2 saws that day. I tried the 3510 snd it uses 91vp low pro chain but bad little saw.
I cud care less about captured nuts. If you cant handle those nuts. Dont use saw.
That is a thoughtful presentation. I was under the impression that the transfer ports were different in the 4910. Also, I believe the ignition module in the 501p allows for higher RPMs. What I'd really like to see is side by side cuts in the wood.
Should have a 4910 here by Thursday. Complete tear down will follow shortly after that. I'm a big fan of companies "marketing a price point" on these different models. Increasingly the product supplied shares the same base of "pro" models, throwing a good value bone to the diy community. The 501P has been an under rated contender since its introduction.
where did you get your 4910? in newengland cant seem to find one.
They should be reaching your dealers VERY soon if they haven't already. Make sure to ask your local dealer about it because it might be a situation where they don't want to put it on display until they sell out of their CS490 inventory.
I have an older CS-510 and I can see that Echo has improved its air filter and choke lever designs over what's on my saw.
I swapped the original Walbro carb for a Shindaiwa 501sx carb. The tuning screws are longer and it makes it MUCH easier to tune compared to the Echo carb.
Does the Shindaiwa 494 saw - apparently the same as 4910 according to specs - come with the Shindaiwa 501sx carb?
Edit: Shindaiwa 492 model, not 494
Hi and thanks for the informative video. I just moved to a place that has some acreage. I'm looking to buy my first chainsaw. I don't know anything other than most people say Stihl and Husqvarna are the best. Echo runs a close third. I see that both Stihl and Husqvarna are more expensive than Echo, but sometimes you are paying a premium for the"name" and the product is not a whole lot different. It looks like you know Echo chainsaws pretty well. I have up to $450.00 to spend on a saw to maintain my property and cut up downed trees for firewood. Some trees are 24+ inches and more. One thing I must take into consideration is my lack of mechanical knowledge. I probably won't be able to repair the saw myself if something tore up. I don't even know how to adjust the carburator. We have ONE local outdoor power equipment service center and they sell Stihl products. I assume they can probably work on other brands, but I don't know that for sure. We have an ACE Hardware that sells Echo products, but they don't service any equipment. If you had my budget, what chainsaw would you purchase if you couldn't work on it yourself?
Speaking with my echo dealer about this he said that the 501 p still has more power than the 4910 and has captive bar nuts and an aluminum handle essentially the 4910 vs501p is just like the comparison of the timber wolf and the 620 the 4910 is the prisoner model and the 501p is the fully professional saw . That being said this video was excellent and answered all the technical questions about this topic that I didn't even know I wanted answered excellent video sir
Thanks for watching and for leaving some good feedback.
Thanks for having thorough quality information for people to make an informed decision on things keep up the great work bro I'll keep tuning in for sure , I'm about to buy myself A shindaiwa 731(echo7310) for myself for my birthday and id love to you do some part for part comparison on the shindaiwas vs echos just to see if they really are the same saws with different colored shirts on
Oh and one more thing he said is that like the 591 being a limited or governed engine the 501 is ungoverned or limited which is a large part of it's higher power I have both the 501p and 620 but I'm thinking about grabbing a 4910 to replace my little husky that I use for limbing and storm cleanup cause the price is amazing and the power it has makes it much more versatile than my lil husky in that I could use the 4910 to handle much larger wood if it was the only saw I brought with me. One other question I had is whats your opinion on jonsered/red max vs husqvarna cause I have a jred 2172 which is supposed to be the same engine as the 372 xp xtorq all I can say on the matter is that I've used the 372 xtorq side by side with it and the jred just feel way more comfortable for me than the 372
So revisiting this a few months later I’d like to admit I was wrong the 4910 and 501p are the same saw the only difference is the 4910 has a plastic handle this has been confirmed by two separate mechanics that have ported multiple of both models
@@joehertel8846 Jonsereds use a straight handle, the huskies have a curved.
I had a 490 and now have a 501P. Great saws, you really can’t go wrong with a 490, 4910 or 501P. Personally I’m not into the 4920. For me I love the 501P. Does everything I need it to do.
Thank you for this video , I have been trying to decide which way to go as far as buying the right size from the start . This helped a lot , it looks like the 4910 I guess
Glad it was helpful!
I just bought a modded CS-4910. Haven't even had a chance to try it yet. Looking at your video and the Echo parts diagrams, I see a couple of things that could affect performance.
1. Different ignition module in the 501-p might allow higher RPMs.
2. Pro-Lite guide bar (lighter?)
3. FULL Chisel Chain
I sure do like the light weight and how it feels in your hands. I would like to see a side by side video of a stock CS-4910 vs a CC-501p. Then one with them both running a FULL chisel chain.
Echo has always been great weedeater,chainsaw,blower,
I have both now. Pretty sure 4910 is 501p w plastic handle. But I urge everyone to try the echo 3510 it will blow you away.
You ain't kidding! The CS-3510 just came out of nowhere and has been surprising everyone with it's performance! Thanks for commenting!
Sure seems like the 501p is indeed the pro model version of the two. I’d much prefer to own the pro grade saw and so would a lot of my customers. The value though in the 4910 is really good
The CS-4910 is an excellent value! I think that it will cause a slight drop in CS-501P sales, but I think it's bigger impact will be in the amount of upsales from CS-4510 saws. The gap in power and performance is now a lot bigger than it was between the CS-4510 and the CS-490.
I’d do the 4910 and find a handle off of a blown 501p. I’m particular about bar and chain combos anyway so that’s a non issue Great Video!! I’ll check out your other content!!
501P is in X series, as of March 2021, X series is only eligible for the 15% off dealer promo. 4910 does not qualify. therefore, the choice is clear if you can wait for sale.
Yeah that was another smart move by Echo to really help their customers and themselves. We keep saying that Echo is making a lot of great moves with their equipment. They have the promotion going on right now with the consumer products where you get the pair of $20 clippers for free, and the the 1 Day Sales Event for a lot of dealers. All of this at a time when a lot of other manufacturers are struggling to even get product to dealers and have no promotions going on. Another big move by Echo to steal market share from Husqvarna/Redmax, and Stihl
@@EshlemaniaTV yes, smart. I put my Stihl homeowner saw for sale on Offerup, sold less than 1 day. took the cash to echo dealer and upgraded to pro model. Sold all my Stihl and Husky through the years to fund new equipment from echo/shindawia one day sale. used to be 20%, now its 15% sale
I love the ECHO chainsaws...I just got me a 4910 w/20" bar. Ive had my 330t for about 12 yrs now and still good as new
That aluminum handle and captured nuts is worth the extra $100
Those are good features to have for sure. That aluminum handle with the rubber over wrap will take out more vibration than the plastic one.
On a side note for anyone that's wondering, it costs less than $100 to add the aluminum handle and captured bar nuts to the CS-4910.
But how much for the aluminum handle, the coil, and the better bar?
In France/Uk we have 501 sx, same deal but comes standard with 18" or 20" sugihara Pro solid bar, maybe emissions is different. 20% sales tax I know that! Anyway, if you can get it, narrow kerf .325 chain on a light sugihara 16" bar is a beautiful combo on this thing, extremely light, balanced and very fast, makes a lot of firewood very quick. Used the full length of the 20" in red oak a few times (sharp chain) and I'm impressed how good it is. Beyond that its dolkita 7900 time. Also mine came with a nylon air filter, for anything other than freezing conditions the flock type does a better job.
Great feedback! Thanks for sharing!
You said that the cs490 wasn’t a 50cc saw while the 4910 and 501p are. My 490 says 50.2cc on it just like the 501p I have does.
You are correct that the CS-490 is a 50 cc saw. We were going to talk about how the CS490 is a 50 cc saw, but not the same engine because it has a different cylinder assy than the CS501 and the new CS4910. We decided not to elaborate on that and it wasn't til the video was posted that it was realized that part was not elaborated on.
So it's kinda like the 590 Timberwolf, 600P and the 620. Mind you 620 was different in some ways but they used more plastic on the Timberwolf to reduce costs, and maybe a different coil with rpm limits, 600 a few more things until phased out, then the 620 had metal handles, clutch cover, unlimited coil
Yep, something like that. It's a smart move on Echo's part because the more parts that the saws have in common the lower they can keep the MSRP.
600P was just a 590 with a rim sprocket and aluminum handle, mechanically they were the same. Where as the 620P has different cylinder porting, ignition, and a larger carb.
Excellent video! I’m looking at purchasing the 4910. I was also looking at the 4510 too, but like the extra power from the 4910.
For what it’s worth, the 4510 uses a strat engine.
Nice looking chainsaws man,do those 2 models have the cataletyk converter on them,keep up the good work man.
The 490,4910,590,620p,7310p all have an “open can”muffler although the outlet on some models is very restricted(especially the 490). The 490,4910, and 501p have a removable restrictor baffle that can be taken out with the 2 screws that hold the deflector on.
Great comparison video! But, the cs-490 is also a 50.2cc engine. Not sure why the part number on the carb would be different.
I would love to see a comparison video like this between the 590 and the 620p.
I second this. My understanding was that compared to the cs490 the cs501p has better porting, less restrictive muffler, and unlimited ignition coil. Very similar to the difference between the CS590 and the CS620p although I believe the 620p runs a two ring piston and a larger venturi carb compared to cs590.
The CS-490 uses a different cylinder than the CS-501P and the new CS-4910 so it does not have the same fuel requirements.
I did not understand if there is a difference in the antivibration system. For the 501 Echo says that it is standard. It is made with four small pieces of rubber as I saw repairing a lot of them. For the 4910 on the site it is written that it is a spring antivibration system. Do you confirm that or is it just a mistake? Maybe in the next generation Echo will finally adjust this big disadvantage versus his competitors. Unfortunately I really appreciate the difference of comfort between the spring and the rubber system when I work.
The anti vibration springs are the same between the C-501P and the CS-4910. The big difference is that the CS-501P has an aluminum front handle with a rubber overlay while the CS-4910 has a plastic front handle with no rubber overlay. The front handle is part of the anti vibration system and although the plastic handle on the CS-4910 works well, the aluminum handle with the rubber overlay just works better at deadening the vibrations from the saws engine.
Thanks for the reply. Maybe it is an error of mine because I'm not English, but when I read "spring" I understand a metal "roll" and not a rubber shock absorber. I would like that Echo will use the same type of antivibration system that Husqvarna, Stihl, Dolmar etc started to use many years ago. The differences between a metal spring and a rubber absorber is tangibile when you use the chainsaw many hours a day like I did when I worked as lumberjack. So, have I understood wrong or is there a mistake from Echo on the site?
Cs 4510 es model testeremde yay amortisörler var
501p has an unlimited coil so you can go and port the saw and take advantage of the power expansion abilities with porting etc.
Awesome breakdown
Thanks for the info.
You bet!
Are they phasing out the 501p like the 490? If not, I’m confused why they would have such similar saws in the 50cc lineup.If they would have had the 4910 a year ago I would have chosen it to save $100 over the 501p that I bought. I’m hoping in the future that we’ll get an actual new design 50cc saw like the 7310 with its better air filtration system and a similar new 60cc saw. The air filtration system on the current 50-60cc is the only weak point.
Not sure, but would not be surprised if they do not come out with something to replace the CS501P since they are revamping quite a few other saws in their line up. But then again, Husqvarna has multiple 50 cc saws in their line up at various prices and they keep selling. So I guess only time will tell.
i agree, i wish the 501p had the 7310 air filter. almost bought 7310 for that reason alone, just too heavy for my uses on my property.
Ülkenizde cs 510 varsa bu testereyi alabilirsiniz. 3.5 hp gücünde ve 7310 ile aynı tür hava filtreleme sistemine sahip
What about the isolation mounts ? Are they the same ?
Any thoughts on going with a Stihl MS-250 or the Echo CS-4910. I have a small hobby farm with decades of tree neglect. The Stihl repair shops is 60 miles away and Echo dealer is local. The Stihl is $300 (on sale) vs Echo of $359. Both 18” bars. I know the Stihl has some starting issues for some. Echo has some nice features the Stihl does not have or may even need.
We avoid Stihl as much as possible these days. Just not what it used to be.
@@EshlemaniaTV Thank you, I was thinking the same. My Brother in law lives-breaths GMC, John Deere and Stihl. Although he currently runs a Stihl 440 and burns wood all year. His version is probably better then the current crop of machines.
Don't do it. I made the mistake of buying the ms-250 when it was on sale last year. At the time I only compared it to the ms-271. 45cc vs 50cc for $100 less seemed like a bargain. I wanted the ms-261 for it's power to weight but couldn't justify the price for mostly just a firewood saw. Unfortunately, Echo wasn't even on my radar. It seems a lot of people are still stuck on the Stihl vs Husqvarna bandwagon.
The "starting issues" with the 250 is a non issue if people just quit flooding it. 5 pulls max on full choke no matter what. I learned the hard way too.
The saw is weak and not a good value when you compare it to the Echo lineup however. I bought the ms250 local for $300. Then there's additional cost for replacing the slow safety chain. $30 each for rs. Buy 2 get 1 free. Add in the cost for all the overpriced oils to get the warranty extended plus tax, you're close to $400.
For perspective, I bought my CS-590 Timberwolf 24" bar online from sawsuppliers with a discount code from the chainsaw shack for well under $400 shipped to my door & they threw in a bunch of nice Echo swag. It has 60cc vs 45cc, metal case vs plastic clamshell, includes the long warranty, & comes with Oregon powermatch chain. It's an absolute beast compared to the ms-250. It pulls that 24" with authority while the Stihl struggles with it's 18" The 590 cuts way faster, feels a boatload stronger, and keeps me from having to bend over all the time.
They're not even in the same class, yet the CS-590 doesn't really cost but a few dollars more when you put everything into perspective. Echo really has a "prosumer" line with the 4910 and 590 that has no competition. They reverse engineered their pro saws without taking much away from build quality.
I will say, I like the Stihl flip caps and would like Echo to move to a pleated automotive style air filter across the line like what the ms-271 has or better yet, the 7310p, but the ms250 air filter is even worse. It's garbage. Having a rim sprocket instead of the spur sprocket on the Timberwolf would have been nice too though it's been a non issue except once when it threw the chain while I was working on a stump that had grown into some fence.
@@Jeremy_810 Thanks for the info. My wife had already purchased the Stihl in November for a Christmas gift. Took it back today to the dealer! Getting the 4910 next week. Looking forward to it. I looked at it a couple days ago, feels much better in hand then the Stihl. The CS-590, even though only a few dollars more, its heavier and likely more machine than I need or want to carry around. Who knows, the Echo dealer likes that 590 and could easily talk me into it! One of them is coming home.
@@kentheis105 The 4910 is the best value in the 50cc class. Not to mention that it has a magnesium pro style case instead of the plastic clamshell that you get with a Stihl or Husky. I bought a 501p 2 years ago but I would have chosen the 4910 if it had been available. I decided against the 590/620p because they weigh 3 pounds more. Just depends what you need it for. I just use mine for storm cleanup. All awesome saws and better build quality for the money.
Great video! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and for commenting
Are the bottoms of both saws the same? I ask because I want to get a skid plate but I can only find one for the 490/4910. I’m guessing it should fit the bottom of a501p? Thank you
I know I am a year late in the game here but I just picked up a
4910 because of the absolute minuscule differences between it and the 501p. Could not be happier with my decision. I took the carburetor limiter tabs off of the high and low screws immediately and I have to say that it runs like a raped ape! For a 50cc saw it is a little bully. I will be ordering the 501p aluminum handle to put on my 4910. But other than that it doesnt need anything else!
Thanks for the feedback! The CS4910 is a great saw for the money!
Are the isolation mounts rubber on the 501p same as the 4910 ? Thanks for your in depth review!
So I see the 4910 comes with a 20 inch bar do you think it can handle that size bar as well as the 501 ?
Does Anyone knows when it will be available in France ? Here we have the 490 and the 501.
Great video. I want one now and don't need it.
The 501P is now classed in their X series of equipment. Not sure what that adds if anything.
It adds the ability to save 15% on it during the Echo One Day Sales Event at qualifying dealers. So that's a definitely a good thing!
@@EshlemaniaTV that’s what I did. Made it just $30 more than the 4910. Great little saw.
X series are best in class saws, as in comparison to other saws in the same class, for value, price, specs, etc. So the 501P is considered best in class compared to the husky 550xp, stihl 261c, makita EA5000/DCS5121(dolmar saws) for being the lightest saw in its class.
The 1 day sale is next week at the local shop so i'm definitely getting the 501p
Any difference between the chain tension pin. My 4910 has a plastic one. Seems like could break easliy. Does 501 have metal pin?
Hello, my cs 4510 es saw also has a plastic handle. I want to replace it with an aluminum rubber handle. Can you let me know if it fits the Hagi model. Will the Cs 501 sx fit?
I have the cs490 and it has a 50.2cc engine. Love it by the way. Good video otherwise.
How about a 620p vs 590 timber wolf comparison?
I think I would buy the 501p, I'd break the plastic handle or something on the 4910...
Different ignition module, different cylinder, different carburetor / WOT (CS490 vs CS4910 / 501), etc. There are 3 different chainsaws.
I heard you mention the ignition modules. You need to compare the supplemental specs for the advance curves across the 3 engines.
So I put an aluminum handle on my new 4910, so I guess I have a 501p now 👍🏼
All good stuff but one correction, the cs 490 is 50.2 ccs just like the 4910 and the 501
hello ezek jó gépek ? valamint a cs 501 nem igen gagyi a gyártása ?köszi
I came across your vid since I picked up a near new cs4910 that had a busted clutch cover. Hoping you would say the cs501p was an alloy replacement. Nope! Both plastic. But the orange cover off the cs501p is constantly 10 bucks cheaper than the cs4910. Prefer the orange covers anyway
4910 won off my favorite saws
Bir cs 4510 es Motorlu testereye sahibim. Ne yazıkki ülkemde 4910 henüz yok. Ancak bi ev sahibi testere için cs 501 sx e yükseltme planlıyorum. Sanırım en baştan bunu yapmalıydım. Bu aleminium tutamak ile Magnezyum karter ayrıntısını iyice araştırmadan tercih yapmam hata oldu. 4510 umda en sevdiğim ve 501 sx de olmayan şey ise plastik takoz değil titreşim önlemek için yay kullanılması
Weight difference?
The 501 weighs .2 lbs more than the 4910. Probably all in the aluminum handle on the 501 vs plastic handle on the 4910
I am assuming the 4910 has 2.91hp like the 490 and not the 3.5hp like the 501. Can anyone confirm?
Echo says that the CS-4910 has 3.3 horsepower. You can check out the fact guide that Echo put out here: facebook.com/EshlemaniaTV/photos/pcb.1396483794016140/1396476834016836/
Thank you sir. Now it’s on to Arboristsite to see how the respond to mm and tab delete.
490 - 2.9hp
4910 - 3.3hp
501P - 3.5hp
The Echo 4910 chainsaw has plenty power cut tree down , cut limb , stumps, its all about what you can afford chainsaw remember you paid for what you get today's world plus how you take care of it chainsaw 2910 chainsaw awesome Remember all chainsaw are dangerous cheap or expensive safety first always you can't go wrong 4910 chainsaw this you are business cutting trees down for living than go bigger chainsaw
I just bought the cs501p. Wished I saw this video before could’ve saved me some cash.
watch a muffler mod tutorial its super easy and helps alot.
Those air filtes kinda suck . We have had to glue the two halfs together with silicone to stop them leeking dust in.
My old echo 5200 at least had a good air filter. I really wanted to like the new echos but they are way behind the new stihl 261s.
I was kind of surprised by the weight when I picked them up at the dealer. Kinda heavy
Frigidaire freezer not working
My ice maker doesn't work too well.
All these things you don't know why part numbers are different but look the same it's because all those parts on the 501p that are different are higher quality parts made to last longer
Part numbers also change when they come out with an improved version of an existing part.
@@EshlemaniaTV sometimes they are less expensive or from a different supplier.
The CS 490 Echo is a good saw Cause it is light weight but the Plastic Garbage isn't that good but I cut any tree down with a MS170 just as good but the 16 CS3010 is a waste the Timberwolves are for the people who use thease Daily Ms 290 an Ms 170 from Styhl the, Mark|| Husqvarna isn't good plastic and also clutch cover I'm selling my CS 4910 had for 1 year and a half and the plastic clutch covers with the Bar clutch assemble has to be tighten loosen to make it cut Straight sux I'm selling mine on eBay tomorrow for 260 on eBay ! The 20inch Timberwolf CS 5010 is way better the Way to tighten the Chain on the bar an clutch cover sux! That metal junk gets hist in the clutch bolt to were you take that plate off an it burns your chain cause the screws are Garbage!!!
Pro saw will have a Magnesium crankcase provides lightweight durability. to the cheap saw witch will have a non meteal crankcase with a metal lining .
Cheap saws have more plastic fantastic .
In the case of the 4910 to the 501, this isn't the case. Both have magnesium cases. Everything is the same on the 501 vs 4910 except the coil, the plastic vs aluminum front handles, the rubber rear handle cover and the color of the two side covers. That's really it.