Eggs and Cholesterol: Patently False and Misleading Claims
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- Egg industry claims about egg safety found to be patently false, misleading, and deceptive by the U.S. Court of Appeals.
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I dont understand what is wrong with people, they rather believe a multimillion dollar industry who will put whatever they can in youre table if youre willing to pay for it. The man is telling you how to improve youre health for free. And the studies he cites, are available in his site. So you can make youre one conclusions. Peace
+Angelinho48 as much as I know about nutrition I have no idea what the cholesterols molecular formula or it's structure looks like.
Just out of curiosity D know which Institute did the research on this since you've looked at it ?
Because you just can't take a research into accounts you have to look at who is research by and do they have any affiliations to the dairy industry as well.
But I like your point :)
People are horribly addicted to this shit. It can be hard to quit an addiction. Most people won't do it because they are weak. They would rather stick their head in the sand and ignore the facts. But will fully believe false information funded by these industries.
I think this so often as well. One doctor says "Eat all of this", while the other says "Eat none of that", who seems more reasonable to trust?
They want to believe they can keep eating garbage.
People totally forget the number one authority on health- their own body. But most are so unaware, and brainwashed, about what real health and performance even feels like...- they have never experienced it- what a shame... and advertising reinforces the sham.
It's funny. People who eat eggs, dairy flesh, refined foods, etc. SAY that they are 'fine' when they are not. They still get headaches, stomach aches, toe fungus, runny nose, congestion, diarrhea, constipation, rashes, itching, foul odors, trouble sleeping, need for coffee, and all the other inflammatory ills that most 'get'. These people who say that they are 'healthy' are so unaware of what 'health' feels like. As long as they are still standing they they think that they are fine. And the game goes on.
dont u mean vegans fart all day & smell like they r rotting.
Yeah, I felt like I was 80 years old, I was just 20 and I couldn't stand up, my joints were hurting so bad, I had terrible head aches, I felt dizzy all the time, could get up in the mornings, I had anemia and no energy, and plus I was the fattest in my life. And everything changed after I've become vegan. Animal products are toxic.
Refined food is terrible, however we are still herbivore
Meat eating is positively correlated with brain size and functionality...so, its funny when vegans are trying to lecture omnivores, they feel "smart" when they are not.
More calories not meat per se. Fancy words do not fix flawed, misleading or market-driven "research".
RIP headphone users
the video started as I read this and was like "I don't get it"....few minutes in..."oh, ow"
Ouch. My beeping ear holes. xD
This is just my own anecdotal experience but before I went vegan I used to eat an egg almost every day, occasionally two. I never in a zillion years thought this was causing me any harm, since I wasn't overweight, until I got a check up which showed that I had very high cholesterol. Because I'm young and thin, I thought it was bullshit. But then I went vegan for ethical reasons and another recent check has showed it's now not just in the normal range but it's basically as low as you can go. :)
+Freja Richards Cholesterol is absolutely essential for many important bodily functions in humans. Low cholesterol levels is no guarantee against heart attack. The negative hype about cholesterol is based on lies and is a blatant scam. Eggs are the near-perfect nutritional food. Well, I will go and eat another 2 eggs now.
+Freja Richards What do you consider "Very High"?
+Ismail Hamdulay cholesterol is essential for health but is produced by youre body. Diatery cholesterol is whats killing us. Which occurs naturally in animal based food. Because all animals produce there own cholesterol Check youre info, it can be the diference between life and death.
That's what I would have said, thank you. :) We definitely produce our own cholesterol, in the exact amount that we need. Carnivores don't die from heart attacks due to clogged arteries because they're eating the food they are biologically suited to. We are literally not meant to be eating animal fats/protein long term. The only reason we are even partially able to digest them is because evolution has adapted our bodies so that we can use them for survival in the worst of environmental conditions.Yolotl Flores
Go ahead, dude, whatever you want. Please continue to ignore the MOUNTAIN of scientific evidence that for years has confirmed (over and over again) that added dietary cholesterol is bad for our health and puts us at increased risk of heart attack. I have no patience or energy for science deniers. Or for people who willingly contribute to the suffering of living creatures, for that matter.Ismail Hamdulay
I use to eat eggs raw everyday and seem perfectly fine. Till I switched to an all plant diet and wow was I wrong! When you're sick it's impossible to self diagnose.
I think the biggest take away is that most of our population dies of chronic diseases :0 Most people find out when the effects are irreversible.
WARNING LOUD BEEP ON 1:19 !!!!! THIS BULLSHIT JUST BLEW MY SPEAKERS AWAY!!!!
Did anyone else get startled at 1:18? I literally jumped lol!
thanks for this video! i'm going to link to it for all my clients who need to be convinced to give up eggs!
I'd be interested in comments on the following:
For much of the past 40 years, the public has been warned away from eggs because of a concern over coronary heart disease risk. This concern is based on three observations: 1. eggs are a rich source of dietary cholesterol; 2. when fed experimentally, dietary cholesterol increases serum cholesterol and; 3. high serum cholesterol predicts the onset of coronary heart disease. However, data from free-living populations show that egg consumption is not associated with higher cholesterol levels. Furthermore, as a whole, the epidemiologic literature does not support the idea that egg consumption is a risk factor for coronary disease. Within the nutritional community there is a growing appreciation that health derives from an overall pattern of diet rather than from the avoidance of particular foods, and there has been a shift in the tone in recent dietary recommendations away from "avoidance" messages to ones that promote healthy eating patterns. The most recent American Heart Association guidelines no longer include a recommendation to limit egg consumption, but recommend the adoption of eating practices associated with good health. Based on the epidemiologic evidence, there is no reason to think that such a healthy eating pattern could not include eggs.
J Am Coll Nutr. 2004 Dec;23(6 Suppl):596S-600S.
A review of scientific research and recommendations regarding eggs.
Freedom Philosophy so if it doesn’t increase my cholesterol then why did my cholesterol lower when I stopped eating animal products and now I’m in perfect health according to my huge extensive blood test?
+Turtles Rodriquez. Freedom Philosophy was specifically discussing eggs. If you reduce saturated fat in your diet your cholesterol levels may drop, but don't be obsessed with total cholesterol. Check your HDL and LDL readings. Lower is not always better.
people and their emotional attachments just read the comments lol
Seems like our whole food production industry has a very uneasy and perhaps antagonistic relationship with the truth?
I used to eat eggs every day and my cholesterol went through the roof. I started to feel pain in my heart and at times I couldn't breathe. I stopped eating eggs and my pain went away. Scary times. Now I am very cautious with eating eggs.
When you ate eggs did you also eat meat, fish and dairy products? I'm wondering if it was the eggs alone or something else
Eggs are also calories. Perhaps you simply ate too much?
I'm vegan. But It still seems to me unclear the causation between eggs or cholesterol intake from foods and negative health outcomes. Videos like this are great for people who don't eat eggs (like me) to feel better, but they are more to the "ad hominen" then to the strong evidence side, in my humble view.
Besides showing the lobby and pressure from the eggs industry, it would be amazing to really dig deep into the claims of nutrition and health researchers which discard eggs (organics, as they say) as a harmfull food, and doing so but analyzing the same studies and interpretation they offer to support their point of view.
Hi there, I'm Dush a volunteer here at NutritionFacts.org. Dr Greger has many videos on the evidence for negative impacts of eggs on our website, here's a search for you: nutritionfacts.org/?s=eggs
the eggboard-trolls are strong in this comment section. cmon guys, eggs mustnt be advertised as "healthy", "nutritious" or however else you want to bend it by LAW. start to think, wont you
Dave Kenny, "the most affordable" foods are potatoes, beans and grains. Mix in fruits and greens and you will be very healthy. Dr. Greger only does published, science backed info, pay attention.
i beg to disagree. eggs is rich choline . tha fat emusifier. i ate 4 to 5 eggs aday. and my cholesterol were all normal. the culprit is refined sugar, the preservatives from canned goods
I'd like to emphasize: like other whole foods, plant based advocates, Dr. Greger recommends a diet of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, nuts, and seeds. NOT refined grains. NOT sugar. NOT vegetable oils and trans fats. It's disingenuous to come on here and accuse him of promoting processed foods. BTW, unless you hard boil or poach them, eggs practically necessitate the use of a processed food (a refined fat like oil or butter) to consume.
***** Notice how you jumped from "whole grains" to "gluten?" Only wheat, barley, and rye contain gluten. That leaves corn, brown rice, buckwheat, quinoa, amaranth, teff, sorghum, most oats, and several others. Besides, there's no credible evidence that gluten is harmful for the majority who tolerate it, or that whole grains in general are harmful. Cretans had the longest life expectancy in the world while eating a whole wheat based diet in the 50s and 60s.
It's fascinating how the vegan-averse posters at these videos are apparently not watching the videos and examining the posted data themselves at all. Just talking out of nothingness.
Thanks for posting, Dr. G!
How many eggs can you eat per week to be safe? If im a 32 year old male.
Wow!! Thank you for posting!! The egg industry is SCARY devious!!
I haven't read the other commments on here but here is my story. I have been consuming 5-6 whole eggs a day! I was worried when I went in to get my blood check but guess what?! Cholesterol levels are just fine all across the board!
+David Ocampo Ít's not the absolute cholesterol value, but the change in cholesterol.
Not everybody will have the same result because the human body is a complex system. Additionally, as stated in this video if you are eating mostly a diet full of vegetables then having a couple eggs here and there shouldn't affect your health adversely in any way whatsoever.
I've been reading that eggs have a huge amount of beneficial nutrients, so even though I'm 100% vegan as well, I have been considering adding eggs back into my diet. It sounds like the only downside to eggs are high cholesterol and high saturated fat. But if you eat vegetables every day and exercise, a few eggs shouldn't cause any bad health effects, especially if the eggs are organic.
Lectins, At least in Pulses and Legumes seem to have anticancer and anti-obesity effects. It reinforces what we've known for a while, Whole beans and their intact fiber aids with weight loss and good health.
I salute you Dr. Greger for boldly telling the truth about eggs.
a couple months ago I did a blood test and I had a very high cholesterol (above the high risk range!) I was recommended to start taking pills to lower it, I declined and instead I switched to a high vegetarian diet + low ~ medium animal sourced protein. I ate 3 boiled eggs daily (80 ~ 90%) for 2 months and few times i ate chicken and fish every 2 or 3 days, my diet consist of (Hummus, Lentils, rice, light salads, with extra virgin olive oil, hot sauce sometimes, vegan meals) .., I hardly drink caffeine during the weekdays except in weekends because I hangout with friends and families and enjoy drinking either a black coffee or have it mixed with Almond milk..and my routine continued as it is..I always have a small plate of fruits (banana, red apple, grapes) after my lunch and hardly i took any sweets you can say (rarely happened).. I avoid refined sugar, A1 milk(typical milk), and wheat (I switched to gluten free diet long time ago but the cholesterol got me regardless) however during my 2 months experiment i ate boiled eggs which never happened before + vegan in most days and the result after the 2 month.... It went Down to the bottom !! no cholesterol threat whatsoever!! I enjoyed the results and still eating my lovely eggs daily and I add olive oil in top with it with some spices.. delicious and nutritious. this is a fact! not pulled from randomized clinical trial! I also have the lab results before and after.. you a want proof? do this and challenge everyone here and to see the results for yourself!
Eating an egg is like smoking a cigarette.
The nation’s top nutrition advisory panel has decided to drop its caution about eating cholesterol-laden food, a move that could undo almost 40 years of government warnings about its consumption.
The group’s finding that cholesterol in the diet need no longer be considered a “nutrient of concern” stands in contrast to the committee’s findings five years ago, the last time it convened. During those proceedings, as in previous years, the panel deemed the issue of excess cholesterol in the American diet a public health concern.
golfinguna Sadly the meat and dairy industry dumps billions of dollars into that advisory panel, the top guys on that vote on that panel work for the big corps that sell meat and dairy to americans. Of course they're going to vote in favor of non-plantbased diets, it puts an insane amount of money back into their pockets to tell us cholesterol-laden food is ok. :(
+Ashley Morris ...sadly, the body that decides what constitutes of "healthy" levels of cholesterol, is ALL consisted of members taking money and or grants, from big farma, and the levels that are deemed "safe", are apparently lower than median/medium in the nation... also, if I remember correctly, 80% of patients admitted to hospitals with a heart attack (some 140-thousand people sampled), had their LDL (bad cholesterol) levels, BELOW "safe" level... how the fuck are we still being told, that the LDL is the cause of heart disease, is beyond me!
+michbushi *big pharma, of course (damn autocorrect! )
There is no law forcing one to use all of the yolk of the egg. Separate it, break the yolk, and use only a teaspoon or two of the yolk in your baked items if added structure is needed for pies, cakes, or omelettes, but try the recipe without the yolk first in a small way to test. Yes, there are some pies that simply won't work without a whole yolk, but use just enough and no more than needed for a curd like consistency, and have small portions of these deserts occasionally. It also depends on how much exercise one is doing, and how much carbohydrate and fibre one is consuming in the overall diet that alters how cholesterol is processed in the body.
Can anyone explain to me... How much cholesterol would I have to eat every day to have a heart attack within 6 months? Would 12 eggs a day do it? How about if I ate a lamb brain, two kidneys, one heart, and 100 grams of liver every week? I'll keep a food journal and video myself preparing/eating every meal, just so there are no doubts.
I think everyone would be interested in seeing this experiment, if you'd volunteer for it. Pretty sure you could get funding easily. The reason no one has done it is just like in Super-Size me, because you generally feel pretty terrible after a while and everyone recommends against it. Try your hardest though, I'd subscribe! Might be the first scientific Darwin award depending on how it goes.
Are you still alive? It's been 6 months. :)
Who knows what to believe anymore. I recently came across a published paper saying that only cooked and oxidized egg yolks were bad for you. As long as you keep the yolk runny you should be good. Cholesterol is an important part of our bodies. It helps make different hormones as well as being an important part of all healthy cell membranes.
I would be very interested in a video about egg whites.
drbob, eggs increase LDL oxidation. You can verify this by looking at the study "Consumption of eggs with meals increases the susceptibility of human plasma and low-density lipoprotein to lipid peroxidation."
One study?
Also, the evidence is pointing towards good carbs, proteins and fats, and not toward low fat veganism. Increasing certain polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, switching to whole grains, avoiding white potatoes, white rice, white bread, having a high intake of vegetables and certain fruits, avoiding red meat and instead having the other animal meats, as well as eggs, exercising daily, loosing weight, perhaps taking a multivitamin. THAT seems to lower CHD risk factors the most.
The needed antithesis did not occur here, between the azotic effects of the commercial, and the biogenetic benefits of the, straight from the foodful earth, free-range eggs, which are one of the few, left, sources of a complete nutrient content still available to us.
Circumventing them is not only a folly but, also, an injurious act, especially upon children.
CAN I EAT 4-5 EGGS BOILED EVERY DAY AT DINNER?
Can you? Yeah.
Should you? Probably not.
Is there any truth behind claims that the effect of bad cholesterol is cancelled out by the presence of good cholesterol in eggs? The whole LCHF community seems to lean on arguments like "cholesterol never was bad for you to begin with". What is your take on that?
The article does not measure egg induced oxidized LDL but rather susceptibility of LDL's to oxidation in vitro by copper ions. This article, Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2006 Jan;9(1):8-12.
Dietary cholesterol provided by eggs and plasma lipoproteins in healthy populations, states "Extensive research has not clearly established a link between egg consumption and risk for coronary heart disease:
Actually, mainstream nutritional science has you avoid white potatoes because of its glicemic load/index. But it does support intake of whole grains and beans/legumes. It also only says to avoid red meat, and not gourge on animal foods and dairy, not to eliminate it, because it has essential nutrients like b-12 and its aminocids. Eggs are very nutrient dense, and in studies its intake is NOT associated with a higher risk of CHD yet Greger is bashing them here.
Perhaps this question can be reframed. For example, where are the sources for all the 'claims' made by the egg industry? Is it possible that the vast majority of the propaganda promoting eggs are actually made by egg industry sponsors. Now that has a suspicious scent of hardboiled eggs.
I eat 3 jumbo eggs a day, some are double yokers, I'm 60 years old and have never been in a hospital for anything except an offroad accident.
sniper152 enjoy your egg.
Heart diseases strike at early 60s and 70s.
You disgust me, just the way the comment was written, what an uneducated asshat, fuck you.
Is there any correlation between cholesterol and heart disease?
Prepare yourself for an unnecessarily loud screeching sound at 1:18. After that, I had a hard time concentrating on the rest of the clip. Why? The screech was extremely loud compared to the voice audio, scared the Hell out of me, & even woke up my cat. Next, I'm quickly trying to turn the volume down in fear that it may come screeching out again. Consequently, I lost my focus for the rest of the clip, didn't want to hear the frightening screech again, so didn't replay it. That was a dirty trick!
I got less than minimum reading on my blood cholesterol (LDL and HDL). Because of my understanding that egg has having more on cholesterol. I used to take 6-pcs. of eggs everyday for almost 2-years now. I'm hoping that this dietary cholesterol from eggs could boost or improve my plasma cholesterol. The result was negative, nothing was changed on my plasma cholesterol reading..till now I got very low cholesterol on my blood. The advantage I got on eggs is that..my blood pressure is always good or normal. Now, how I do believe on this testimony..thank you.
Fitness people and bodybuilders get the quick protein from egg whites. We don't really eat the yolks anyway. Egg whites have no cholesterol, packed with protein and no significant fat and carbs. One egg white has 3.6 grams of protein. Call it broscience if you want. Eating egg whites gives you great amount of complete protein and no danger!
Isn't it the truth that we are all different? Our bodies are essentially the same but individually they are different enough for eggs (and other so-called "unhealthy" foods)to be a danger for some and not to others; for example those (not me) who are overweight and already with high cholesterol levels. The egg Industry reflects this by being restricted by law from saying carte blanche that eggs are safe - in the general sense - for everyone. I have been eating eggs for 70 years and I don't have negative signs or symptoms of any kind, neither have I ever in my life. There is no conflict or confusion for me personally.
WHAT ABOUT FREE PASTURE HOME-RAISED EGGS? Btw i'm vegetarian - mostly vegan, but i'm still striving to find ONE good study that would show any negative implications of consuming an egg or 2 per day. All i hear is propaganda from BOTH sides. I WANT PURE UNBIASED FACTS and demonising cholesterol is just pure BS. My blood lipids a month ago were: Total cholesterol 147, HDL 89, Tryglicerids 88, LDL 65.
Do you really not understand that dietary cholesterol is the number one leading cause of heart disease? The recommended amount of dietary cholesterol is very much based on research. Do you seriously need people to find these studies for you?
Just because the AHA is against egg-eating does not mean they are correct. It is messed up that the Egg industry tries to falsify claims by the AHA but, nevertheless, just because a group got endowed with a title that made them "authorities" in the matter of heart health doesn't exactly mean that they aren't wrong
On a scale of 1 to 10...What is most dangerous? Eggs, Steak, Oranges, Apples, Lettuce, Coffee, Beer, Orange Juice. I can't believe eggs (conservatively consumed) harbor any more CV danger than anything else (conservatively consumed). But I could be wrong.
Your grandparents may have reached triple digits without the eggs, and keeping their balanced menu.
I have quite a soft spot for eggs but I still do my best to limit them to around half a serving a week. I also try really hard to keep my fiber intake at at least 50 grams a day by stuffing myself with veggies and by choosing primarily plant-based sources of carbs, fat and protein. Overall, I like to think of animal based foods as an occasional tasty variation rather than as the primary source of anything.
I don't get the methodology of this video - it's biased, one-sided and opinionated. There is a plethora of studies proving that cholesterol is not harmful, that lecithin in egg yolks is good for your health.
What I mean is, that actually RAISING the consumption of certain fats, LOWERS CHD risk. Simply doing Low fat, vegan or not wont do much for you. Its the inclusion of vegetables, the avoidance of high glycemic load/index foods, the inclusion of nuts and certain polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, exercise, and avoiding red meat, and having a diet with good NUTRIENT DENSITY, that seems to help, so far.
There are not pertinent references on the page where this story is hosted on his website either. No pointers to studies supposedly proving that the AHA is correct in it's position that eggs are unhealthy.
More carbs are ingested that promote free radical production? I'm sorry but fruit and vegetables are made up mostly of carbohydrates, and forgive me if i'm wrong but don't fruits and vegetables have the highest amount of antioxidants on the planet? Yet they promote free radical production? That's interesting.
what about egg whites
When a person doesn't want to give up something they find, make up or even believe anything in the world in order to stick with it or continue that life style. If you do not wanna change or give it a try. No problem enjoy life how you want to live it. But use common sense. Why would you want to eat from an animal? You don't see a lion cutting up parts of a cow and preparing it over an open flame do you? But to each his own. Im gonna stick to what this man and video has to say
Why are you killing plants. You evil plant killer.
hamptonbay100 lol lol.why you killing animals you evil animal killer!!!!!
+Scott H “Exactamundo”
Didnt Ancel Keys say dietary cholesterol had minor effect on lipid cholesterol.
Do you have a wide variety of modern research that suggests that lectins do such a thing? Lectins, at least in Legumes seem to have potent health benefits, especially when it comes to harming cancer growth. The case for whole potatos, grains and beans in terms of them being health is actually quite strong.
Lancet 1994 research article found over 70% of fat in clogged arteries was monounsaturated and polyunsaturated...Saturated fat was only 15%....saturated fat and cholesterol are not the enemy, inflammation promotes clogging not the cholesterol or fat itself...
it should be clear now, that eating colesterol does not rise the own colesterol level. that was an assumption without evidence from decades ago. high colesterol comes from inflamation - especially from bad fats that clogs up the cell walls and hormone receptors stop working. then hormone resistance kicks in slowly meaning diabetes type 2 or other problems like leptin resistance. the high level of insulin also supports inflamation. i don't see a problem with eggs.
Lol
+Stefan Weilhartner It's great to see people are waking up at last tot he great low-fat scam. It's about time the NHS in Britain woke up too and updated their flawed dietary guidelines which patently encourage weight gain.
I can only assume you never watched the video. That's the only explanation for this amazingly stupid comment.
That's America for you. Australia doesn't use any hormones in cattle& poultry production ( we've banned it). Since America doesn't export eggs to the whole world
When you're making a film could you please exclusively say which parts of the world or America these scenarios are going on?
Thank you
Because you have a world wide audience I believe yo need to specify
Lol people that are going to think they're free range organic eggs are bad as well
+Halil Kocoglu The cholesterol and saturated fats are always there no matter what we do with the hens...
+ifer lyf you're absolutely right. I believe hormones( additives ) makes it much worse than dealing with cholesterol alone.
'Cholesterol' VS 'Cholesterol +hormones plus additives.. & the list goes on.
Doesn't mean they aren't bad too
+Halil Kocoglu. If you google eggs, you'll find that 100 grams (is that one egg or two, not sure?), amounts to 124% of recommended intake of cholesterol. Pretty insane. This is regardless of whether the eggs were from healthiest chickens. By the way, I'm also from Australia, and for certain there are hormones and antibiotics used in the livestock here. Just do a little bit of research, and you can confirm it yourself.
You can eat 50 eggs a day and your cholesterol will rise slightly but if you consume dairy products,such as milk,yogurt,cheese and ice cream, your numbers are going to go up exponentially.The Drug makers knew this and blamed it on the egg,which is not the culprit for high cholesterol.
came here looking for this, but I'm surprised nobody, not even the doc in the vid, mentions it.
There is a Canadian Documentary series called "the nature of things" who last season did a episode called "the cholesterol conundrum" in which they explore a genetic anomaly of persons born with a VERY,VERY, high HDL/LDL profile and take the physician prescribed precautions to reduce their Cholesterol which doesn't work yet they stubbornly aren't dropping dead as predicted, infact MOST people who drop dead of heart attack and stroke have healthy range cholesterol profiles, so what gives?Most diets high in cholesterol are also typically high in animal derived L-Carnitine, when L-Carnitine hits your gut biome they digest it into TMAO which caused increased INFLAMMATION. A few weeks prior to watching this Docu I had comprehensive blood test and everything was in good to moderate range except inflammation markers, I was supplementing ...you guessed it L-Carnitine as a part of resistance training.
This not the #1 food problem in America. It's all the GMO processed crap people stuff there mouths with. Every time I see someone I haven't seen in a while they've gained wait eating fast food and soda.
Yep, there is a growing theory that our brains became the metabolic engines they are today because of our ability to digest and process wild sources of starch. All green plants store starch somewhere, it's a widely availible resource that we as a species have eaten from day one.
I agree the animal industry is cruel and very unhealthy so I don't try to justify the cruelty in any industry such as the abuse of migrant farm workers, garment workers, CAFOs, etc. We should buy free range eggs, pasture raised beef, grow more of our own food, raise some chickens, to the extent we can.
What's up with pasteurized egg whites?
Right... Cholesterol is absolutely needed! Thats why we are able to make our own.
That being said, Excess Cholesterol is harmful to our arteries, and good science (Not weston A price style Ethnographies from the 20's) have shown it's harmful effects.
I would like to see a debate between a Keto advocating doctor, and a Vegetarian doctor on the subject of Cholesterol.
This vegetarian guy never mentions that the human body produces most of its own cholesterol. Also, he never mentions nutritionists recommending healthy animal fats in meat, plus organ meats for optimum health! There needs to be a debate.
He's one of the main global leading experts on the field of nutrition, his website is recommended by the american association of nutrition and dietetics as a safe source of information on nutrition, he reccomends for the USA Guidelines... Rather than asking why the vegetarian doctor didn't mention that our body produces cholesterol (he also didn't mention that our body produces blood) we should be asking why are the meat eating nutritionist ignoring both the leading experts and leading nutritional association on the subject? Why are some meat bias nutritionist claiming that meat is a fundamental part of our evolutionary diet, when biologist antroplogists (the people who actually study the subject) say that there is no evidence for it? (yes we eat meat during evolution and it helped us sometimes (like bark and fesses) but it wasn't as important to shape us for its consumption, like bark and fesses)
and thus health cautious people will usually stay away from "bad" foods even if they're not bad. That's why so many study's show similar results. But only when they use people that don't care and just eat whatever they want. If they try this bit of chicanery with health cautios people vs other health cautios people the results will be completely different.
All of those nutrients are found in dairy, eggs, and in some instances, algae and mushrooms.
Eggs has been what's kept this country and most other countries going for century's make sure you eat balanced menu. MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED ON EGGS TILL 91 and 94 years old.
What I was explaining, or rather trying to explain to Goyim9 earlier was how some very simple logic flaws got a bad stigma attached to meat/eggs etc and are sticking to it till today. People that want to be healthy are likely to eat vegetarian due to the stigma on meat, these people exercise and live healthy in general. Due to this healthy livestyle (also no sweets) they have a lower risk for heart dissease. But it's not the meat, it just happens that meat eaters are less likely to care for them
You don't know what you're talking about. This is about *dietary* cholesterol. They body does not *need* ether one of dietary cholesterol or dietary glucose. They body creates it, and regulates it, the minimal amount required itself if none is supplied in food. It has been proven that high quantities of simple carb's in the diet cause health problems. Not so with eggs.
I LOVE IT!!! Dr. Greger went SAVAGE FULL SIZE on the Egg industries claim!!! Greger is a BEAST!! Well done my good man, well done!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I certainly do not work for the egg industry but enjoy them frequently as I do whole creme top milk, whole fat yogurt, heavy creme and butter. I have high normal LDL levels A lot depends on your genetics, and what else you eat. I eat lots of unsaturated fatty acids, nuts, resveratrol and consume cannabis daily
So the body needs cholesterol. Whoopy do. As if that's news to the global community of medical researchers who acknowledge the Lipid Hypothesis. The body needs glucose too, but you wouldn't conclude from that that high blood sugar is harmless. Also, people have lived into their hundreds with rock bottom cholesterol levels:
watch?v=RjSmmEzxK7Y
Perhaps, I do find a lot of his stuff useful though.
One should eat many more fruits and vegetables, but we also need cholesterol.
The one thing I can never get a doctor to answer is, why does cholesterol only collect in arteries and not in veins?
We can tell by that alone that cholesterol isn't the problem, it's something else. Fruits and Vegetables help the problem, and cholesterol goes down again.
In one of his lectures he cited a result from a very esteemed medical research center that the level of cholesterol in veg nd nonveg eaters is insignificant. That lecture is on youtube.
*Whose* lecture?
Are you saying the blood cholesterol in vegan vs non-vegan eaters is insignificant?
(genuinely curious, not trying to argue)
I ate 8 to 10 eggs daily, for at least ten years.
Then I had my cholesterol checked. After 10+ yrs of eating eggs every day, my cholesterol was very low. *I must be a genetic marvel!*
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Amazing what the egg industry throws out there.
tell me what you think of "The influence of consuming an egg or an egg-yolk buttermilk drink for 12 wk on serum lipids, inflammation, and liver function markers in human volunteers."
While im sure Dr. Greger would advocate Veganism as a choice, i've yet to see him advcoating a Mcdougall style low fat vegan diet, he does advcoate nuts, seeds, and good fats such as peanut butter, avocados, etc.
Side note: could you link me that study you mentioned? I'm geniunly interested, ty.
D3 is in foods like milk or eggs and since we humans don't live under the sun anymore we can really needs these as the amount our body can produce is limited by our way of life these days (I sure hope you knew that already). B12 deficincy is actually enough to realize that humans need animal products in their diet and eggs are great for that. What's your point? Your original post was wrong and I never put words into anyones mouths.
The premise of this video hinges on the idea that eating cholesterol increases the risk of heart disease. When we look at real populations over a long time we find this to be false.
1. In the UK, cholesterol in the over 64's was lowered by 40% over a period of about 30 years. The rate of heart disease in this population remained almost constant at 20%
2. This finding was confirmed in the huge Framingham study.
The fact is when we get away from theory and statistical trickery and look at real people, the cholesterol hypothesis falls flat.
Using common sense we should not expect cholesterol to cause any serious issues in healthy people for the following reasons.
1. Cholesterol is essential for life. Cholesterol must circulate in the body, as it is an essential component of brain, nerves and hormones. If the presence of cholesterol causes heart disease, we have a built in heart disease risk.
2. Cholesterol levels are not regulated by diet. The body makes less cholesterol if we consume more. So eating an egg has no significant effect on cholesterol levels, the body compensates by making less.
The converse may not be true. Statin drugs interfere with cholesterol production. If levels fall in a Statin user, the body has limited capacity to make up the shortfall.
This is not to say there are not some problems with eggs, but they have nothing to do with cholesterol.
The problem with eggs lays in the industrial production methods by which many eggs are produced. The following does not apply to truly pasture raised eggs which have many healthy nutrients.
1. Chickens are kept indoors. This adversely affects health. The cannot make vitamin d, or properly detoxify their bodies by pumping their lymph with exercise. They cannot eat green leaves which are essential for synthesising omega3 fats. Thus eggs produced by these birds have lower levels of omega-3, vitamin d.
2. The health problems this lifestyle causes chickens is are mitigated by heating their environment, vaccinating them, and feeding them antibiotics. All these measures increase the cost of eggs, and the antibiotics increase the risk of antibiotic pathogens growing in the chicken population.
Lazy research. Fructose, sat fat, trans fat, PUFA, and dietary cholesterol all exert effects on serum cholesterol levels. Glucose is necessary for life too, but that doesn't mean high blood glucose is healthy. There's a threshold at which anything our body needs, including water and oxygen, becomes harmful, and for cholesterol, that threshold is above 150 mg/dl since the only populations with an absence of CAD are the ones who stay below that level. Don't know about the UK, but Framingham definitely found a correlation between high cholesterol and CVD.
circ.ahajournals.org/content/113/6/791.full
The leader of the Framingham Study, William Castelli, promotes a low-fat vegetarian diet by the way and has spoken out against people like you who misrepresent his study and quote him out of context.
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Lazy reasoning.
"Fructose, sat fat, trans fat, PUFA, and dietary cholesterol all exert effects on serum cholesterol levels"
Exerting an effect is no the same as sustaining an increase. It is a sustained increase in cholesterol levels that is associate with health outcomes, not transient changes.
The body has a highly sophisticated mechanism for making and regulating cholesterol. Cholesterol consumed from the diet is not distinguishable from endogenous sources, so there is no evidence that eating cholesterol is harmful.
Finding a correlation between serum cholesterol and heart disease is not the same as showing that eating cholesterol causes heart disease.
Since as I stated before, eating cholesterol does not lead to sustained rise in blood cholesterol.
Setting an arbitrary level for blood cholesterol (which gets lower every time the statin manufacturers need to raise sails, but is not backed by the kind of solid science that produces a mechanism) fails to explain why lower levels cause no damage at all.
Glucose by contrast causes glycation damage at any level, but body repair can keep up if blood sugar is regulated.
Cholesterol does not directly damage arteries, and the plaque is actually below the epithelial layer not in contact with the blood flow, contrary to the myth spun into fact by popular culture.
As for the vegetarian diet, I suspect that is a diet of unprocessed vegetables rather than powered and processed vegetable and soy products.
That proves nothing since eliminating processed foods and increasing bioavailable vitamins and minerals would be expected to be an improvement over a diet of processed foods whether vegetarian or not.
A lot of vegans love to demonise cholesterol because it is only found in meat and animal products. That isn't you stance is it? Because the science just does not support it.
wjestick Oh, so all of those people who have their cholesterol go up in metabolic ward studies as a result of consuming fructose, sat fat, trans fats, and dietary cholesterol... you're claiming that their cholesterol will come back down eventually? Where's the evidence for that? Where's the evidence for any of your assertions for that matter, like "any" level of blood glucose causing glycation damage? Why do vegetarians, vegans, and other plant-based dieters consistently have lower cholesterol than meat eaters if diet exerts no sustained effect on cholesterol levels?
www.veganhealth.org/articles/dxmarkers
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Basic organic chemistry, Sat fat, fructose and trans-fats ARE NOT CHOLESTEROL.
So they are not relevant to the hypothesis that eating cholesterol raises cholesterol. Which is what this thread is primarily about.
High levels of the lipo protein LDL are associated with adverse health outcomes. This is not the same as establishing cause and effect.
Lipoprotein A has the same association, and the effect also has a causal mechanism. Humans cannot make vitamin C. Vitamin C is an antioxidant that prevents damage to arteries due to free radicals. Vitamin C is found in fruits and vegetables. Eat more fruits and vegetables, get more vitamin C.
In answer to your last question, cholesterol also acts as an antioxidant in the absence of more natural antioxidants in the body like vitamins C, and E and glutathione.
It is suspected that Uric acid also performs this function.
Vegetables are loaded with antioidants, especially when lightly cooked or raw, thus reducing the need for the body to elevate levels of other antioxidants.
In animals, more ascorbate is synthesised, but humans do not have this ability, so other compensatory mechanisms like elevated uric acid, and cholesterol are observed as responses to oxidative stresses.
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Feeding eggs to a baby who hasn't got their milk teeth...?
And it's pretty easy if you think of griding the seeds, very easily done in a bean coffee grinder, if you cannot find the seeds ground. Usually linseed/flaxseeds can be found ground already in packets, but if you can't to other seeds, use a coffee grinder :)
Summary of this video: egg producers don't want people saying eggs are unhealthy. The American Heart Association provides a dietary suggestion for cholesterol consumption. Eggs contain cholesterol.
What the video doesn't do is provide facts about whether the AHA's dietary guidelines are correct. It doesn't provide facts or studies about the physiological effects of egg consumption.
Thank you Dr. Greger! You always bring us scientific evidence! I am a Vegan, and HAPPY to be one! No clogged carotid arteries for me, thank you! :)
You should check the latest news on nutritional science. Things have changed from the ultra low fat, ultra low cholesterol all, carbs go. NUtritional science isnt as clear cut as we all wish it were. But as time goes on more research comes in and things become clearer.
Yep, a Doc Greger show would be da bomb...prime time too...none of this 3-4 pm nonsense...people need to know we're being LIED to about our food!
Naysayers, Dr. Greger doesn't give all he info he has (on eggs for wxample) in each video, orherwise he'd be repeating himself endlessly. This video speaks to those of us who've already been informed about the health dangers of eggs. If you have not, select the info tab, then look under description. Get reliable information about eggs. Dr. Greger, no more very loud beeps, tho, please.
The couple who owned my favorite health food store, whom I trusted implicitly, told me that eggs are ok, IF you don't overcook the yolk. Uncooked yolk was supposed to be very high in lecithin. I don't eat much meat, but have been eating a LOT of eggs. It is for humane reasons that I don't eat much meat, but when you eat an unfertilized egg, no one dies. Then recently I heard from another online nutritionist's site that it's the whites of the eggs that aren't good for us. ???? I've got 3 cartons of eggs in my fridge and am just starting on a low oxalate diet (to the best of my understanding)- I'm having to give most of my food away, already because of that- jars and jars of peanut butter, several cartons of nut milk, etc. So much to unlearn -
"Bias"
"Agenda"
Favorite words among people who have no argument. Unless you can demonstrate how anything someone has said is inaccurate, there's no point in accusing them of having a "bias" or "agenda" unless to say that reality itself is biased or agenda-driven.
Some people have morbid and weird habits and rituals related to food. They hide these strange habits from everyone (not just talking anorexics here). My guess is they get in trouble first before someone who enjoys a good variety of food & beverage and eats and drinks when hungry or thirsty.
Update needed. Egg industry is winning the argument these days.
I am french and i saw some studies which prove that 2 eggs per day are good for cholesterol. There are Good eggs, and others, for sure...
And you still did not provide source.
Sorry but healthy people in a Keto-diet, eating eggs and other fats, every day, have perfect blood results. So.....
Food quality matters, and the right kind of carbs matters, Modern nutrition is clear on this. That being said, white potato i disagree are unhealthy. From a nutritional stand point they do have a good smattering of nutrients, pottasium and fiber. Sure, they are high in the glycemic index, but like all foods can be included in ones diet, especially since potatoes when chilled have a high amount of pre biotic starch.
What is the bottom line here? I don't know what to believe anymore
polymath DO NOT believe ANY data coming from any government agencies concerning our food supply. There has been a revolving doors between Big Ag, the FDA, and the EPA. Independent studies has proven that "Organically" grown chickens, and eggs produced by them, DO NOT increase the risk of heart disease. Google "Say No to GMO's" for information on how the "Industrialization" of our food supply is the true killer.
Which "independent studies"?
Hyp3rborean Do your own research.
Couldn't find any, (which I am quite sure dosen't exist since you can't provide them) thats why I was asking. Making a statement like that makes the burden of proof lie with you.
polymath i feal the same way i will eat healthy the way ik how