Dr. Paul Mason - 'Logical Fallacies of a Vegan Diet: Why you shouldn't feed your child a vegan diet'
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- Dr Paul Mason obtained his medical degree with honours from the University of Sydney, and also holds degrees in Physiotherapy and Occupational Health. He is a Specialist Sports Medicine and Exercise Physician.
Dr Mason developed an interest in low carbohydrate diets in 2011. Since then he has spent hundreds of hours reading and analysing the scientific literature. For a number of years Dr. Mason has been applying this knowledge in treating metabolic and arthritis patients who have achieved dramatic and sustained weight loss and reductions in joint pain.
Dr. Mason is also the Chief Medical Officer of Defeat Diabetes, Australia's first evidence-based and doctor-led program that focuses on the wide range of health benefits of a low carb lifestyle, particularly for those wanting to send into remission pre-diabetes, type 2 diabetes, and other metabolic illnesses.
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I tried telling my parents that vegetables were not good for you since I was 4 years old.
LOL same.
Lol.
@guitarszen i feel very ill, bloated and lethargic when I eat vegetables. If I eat a rib-eye steak, 1 hour later I can work out in the gym if I want.
@guitarszenhow dare you! 😂❤
Hahahahahahahaha!!!
When I got pregnant with my daughter, I had been a vegetarian for 8 years, I took no supplements. I was extremely sick during the first few months of my pregnancy and blood tests showed that I was severely anemic and lacking in iron. I was put on various supplements and started eating meat again. Thankfully, my daughter was healthy, my ignorance didn't cause any damage to her, but now, ironically, she's in her 20's and heading towards veganism herself, currently, the only animal food she eats is eggs. For me, over the years, I started leaning back towards a mostly plant based diet, with minimal meat, and my health has suffered, partly as a consequence of this. For the last few months I've been mostly carnivore, in an attempt to save what remains of my health and life. I wish information like this had been available when I was younger.
So true about iron! As an anemic vegetarian, I ate huge amounts of free vegetables… didn’t help a bit. Chicken breast, however solved it in weeks.
Wait until you try red meat!
My daughter refused to eat any plants since she went off breastmilk.
I almost went crazy cause i didnt know what to feed her... She also hated every Type of bread. Back than i didnt know anything about a proper human diet. Now that I know better, I am very thankful that my daughter seemed to feel from day one whats good for her and what is Not.
Food pickiness is simply a developmental stage that has natural evolutionary value--despite your daughter's reaction, eating LOTS of whole plant foods is still healthiest. P.S. Lots of kids prefer candy--do you think that preference makes it healthy?
@@karlwheatley1244false..
@@karlwheatley1244 Where is the proof of that? Children know what does not support them, until eating what they don't like is pounded into them. Candy is NOT a natural food, so not a valid comparison
@@karlwheatley1244 sorry you meant to say “whole food plant diet with supplements”. You literally cannot exist on a wholefood plant diet only.
@@karlwheatley1244StopMaakingThisPlantBSUp...
At 62, I adopted a Keto lifestyle and, now, 2 years later. I feel better than I have in decades! I dropped 35 pounds easily and have maintained my new perfect weight for the last year. Thank-you, Dr. Paul Mason for showing me the way. 😊
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've come to the conclusion that all information comes with a bias and an agenda, whether its vegan, low fat, paleo, keto or carnivore. We are all different and the only authentic science, is the science we practice on ourselves. We have to experiment and find out what works best for our own body. I'm also 62 and recently started a ketovore diet after being predominantly plant based most of my life, and not particularly healthy as a consequence.
@@Jen.K You're saying that a plant-based or ketogenic diet isn't healthy for you.
Now I have two presentations that I think everyone should watch/listen to. The other one is Chris Knobbe's presentation on industrial seed oils.
Paul Mason is a true champ. Delivers a goldmine of information in a succinct and easily comprehensible manner. He always does an excellent review of the literature and is a tour de force in any nutritional debate. One of my favorite docs on here and always excited when he has a new lecture. A succinct review on the dangers of veganism are well past due.
The blind leading the blind.. it always will be
Lol. Vegan diets are not dangerous. Vegans get their B12 from where your meat gets B12 - supplements. If you exclusively eat other humans, then you can probably have better nutrition than slaughtering other animals, because a human is more likely to have the nutrients that humans need. That brings the ethical question. There is more harm in feeding plants to fatten animals to finally eat those instead of eating the plants directly.
I've not eaten an animal corpse in over 32 years, and when I went vegan 4 years ago, the fibromyalgia pain I had suffered from for 10 years went away within about 10 days. I let everyone I know that processed meats are Group 1 carcinogens, red and other meat are Group 2 carcinogens, dairy is linked to breast and prostate cancers, and causes inflammation. Hundreds of thousands of those who switch to a whole-food plant-based diet have benefited immeasurably health wise, the planet benefits, and most importantly, baby animals are not tortured and killed for their flesh,blood, skin/fur, horns/antlers, etc.
Why do people go crazy at the thought of not being able to chew and swallow someone else's flesh when vegans ask carnists to please consider leaving animals off their plate.
You can get every nutrient, with the possible exception of b12 and vitamin D (if you don't get much sun).
Tofu, tempeh, seitan, lentils, miso, nuts, grains, fruit and veg - there are 80,000 edible plants on this planet..... Why are we killing 84 billion land animals every year which, in turn, kill us?
Why are over 42% of Americans obese, and another 32% overweight? What have we done? Hospitals are filled with meat-eaters dying of heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. Heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and certain cancers can be reversed by switching to a whole-food plant-based diet
www.healthline.com/health/obesity-facts#:~:text=Obesity%20in%20adults,while%20about%2030.7%25%20are%20overweight.
@@shivanandvpWatch it again. This time ... Listen.
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@@shivanandvp Oh great, being solely dependent on the pharmaceutical industry of your fancy diet meds. You won't survive a month without the wealth our global shipping industry brings you.
B12 also needed for those taking metformin - I was never told
I am now nearly 75 years old and after being a vegan for at least 45 years I started to eat meat three years ago. From the very first bite I felt a different person. I just knew with that bite that I had starved myself for all those years. I had had so many digestive issues and body issues I was a mess for all those years. I thought I was also helping the planet but that is so not true. Thank you Dr Mason.
Amazing! That you survived so long on a vegan diet. What caused you to realize that your diet might be causing your poor health and start eating meat again? Do you feel better with some meat in your diet?
I am feeling great eating meat. It has changed my life. My daughter went to Canada (we live in Italy) as a vegetarian to study Holistic Nutrition and came back saying we have to eat meat. @@Jen.K
@@margaretskewes2553 Institute of Holistic Nutrition?
hey margaret, question for you, were you eating processed foods throughout your vegan diet? I'm just asking because I'm thinking about increasing my meat intake
you did the wrong vegan diet then!
Devastating Logic with total clarity. I'm so grateful to you Dr. Paul for making it, and I'm going to note and memorise your points in order to debunk the vegan illusion. After many years on an animal based diet, I've still been feeling a little guilty over the atavistic unevolved desire to eat meat. Critics Begone !!!!♥
Try to lose the guilt -- you are a member of a truly incredible species which simply would not exist without our hominid ancestors beginning to eat meat. That great grey brain of ours, relative to our gut-structures, would be impossible without it.
So don't feel guilty -- it's your genetic inheritance as a member of _Homo sapiens sapiens._ If anything, look at the history of evolution - really look - and be proud that as a species, ours has beaten all the odds!
My mother never told me to eat my vegetables. She used to say, “Eat your meat, it’s good for you.” I did, and I still feel virtuous when I eat meat.😊
"Eat meat vigorously and without conscience ".
@@Loribynyou obviously haven't spent much time reading evolutionary biology books. Our brain development came through an increase in caloric intake via the harnessing of fire and cooking a wide variety of previously inaccessible foods (see raw tubers, beans, grains, and raw meat). Fire denatured the proteins and starches. Our brains are all thought to have grown via the advent of more complex tools and social interaction.
The part that makes the naturalistic fallacy most nonsensical is that life expectancy was about 30 years for people of that era. There's no indication that eating like a cave man now promotes longevity and prevents disease. If one looks at the big killers (heart disease, cancer, and diabetes) these diseases are directly correlated with global populations that consume the highest volume of animal products
@@valerietaylor9615hardly virtuous when you're unnecessarily harming and killing animals based on really bad advice and poor information
Whoa. WHO, way out of line, but not out of lies.
It's about politics,not health.
MONEY, money, money.
It’s not about money, “those” pushing the vegan agenda, and the other evil agendas own the money system. Is 100% about mental/will control. Vegans are easy to control, carnivores, no way. Why? Because of the brain chemistry through nourishment vs malnutrition…
There are so many amazing doctors and researchers in the nutritional spaces these days but Dr. Paul Mason is my favorite. I will binge watch any content that he creates.
I always watch posts featuring Dr. Mason. He never fails to provide valuable information in a clear and articulate way.
Not to mention his great sense of humour
Information and misinformation, if you cannot pick which is which it is very dangerous.
@@lana1065 typical Aussie sense of humour. Paul is brilliant
@@meateaterscringe9863 Please identify his misinformation. I'm all ears.
@@guitarszen Completely wrong??? And you know this how?
Paul Mason is a fantastic researcher and such a credible doctor. Common arguments against meat consumption are so ideologically driven and willfully manipulate data to support bias conclusions. CAFO production of meat is definitely bad for animals and the environment. We need to support regenerative ranchers. So much of the data is driven by global food producers who fund universities, research, and globalist organizations. Support your local farmers and distribution channels whenever you can. I will continue to eat a meat-centric diet and support my local farmers and markets and enjoy profound health benefits.
Vegan doctors seem to be drifting into the distance but the Churches and their followers are growing by the million, unfortunately. It's really sad.
"A fantastic researcher and such a credible doctor" Really? He cites a systematic review on ldl-c levels and the link to mortality and then claims there is no credible evidence to suggest a link between ldl in general and risk of dying failing to make the distinction between ldl-c (amount of cholesterol in lipoproteins) and ldl-p (number of these lipoproteins in the blood) which is a way better and well-established marker for cardiovascular disease. Either he doesn't know how to interpret data or he is intentionally misleading. Eitherway that makes him very untrustworthy
@@zardi9083 watch more of his discussions or lectures and you will see that he goes into great depth into this distinctions. Maybe just not on this clip but he is (like all of us) way more than a single clip. He really is a well measured researcher.
None of these “doctors “ that are taking the beef industries dollar ever talk about long term studies.
The really sad thing is that I don’t need to read more than a dozen or so comments to read anti vegan myths, BS science, misquoted studies, invented rubbish, irrelevant science.
I am not a vegan, simply because following a really good vegan diet is tricky unless you do it as a family. The much easier to follow option is a WFPB diet with some dairy and fish added.
Having had people stay with me on a carnivore diet, the stink they leave in the bathroom is absolutely disgusting. The health risks they are taking, just to fill a meat craving is up to them.
@@toni4729Only fake churches. God ordains the meat as good to eat
After 3 years of a vegan diet back in 2012- 2014...I didn't know it then...
But my teeth were becoming unhealthy and there were a few extractions within a short period of time not long after ridding myself of this way of eating.
I did not have the CORRECT Knowledge!!!
Thank you..."Low Carb Down Under"/Dr Paul Mason.
Carnivore is now, my way of Nutrients.
ps...Eggs are important in my eating also!
Kindness.
The teeth thing is actually a common thing I've heard from a lot of ex-Vegans. You got out before the real damage happened. It only goes downhill the longer you're on it.
@@bonsummers2657 They don't consume a raw vegan diet?
Same here, 2 years plant based, horrid teeth issues as a consequence, lead me to carnivore!
This is a lie. I'm an 8 year vegan and my teeth are in excellent health. Why do people literally lie like this?
14 years of veganism for myself and my wife, still going strong, but we also have nutritional knowledge. Its sad that people don't spend more energy understanding nutrition.
People are litterally disregarding the healthiest diet cause of their own ignorance.
Sometimes vegans say that the plants that have a shape that is similar to one of our organs are good for that organ. However, what plant could be more similar to a human organ than the same organ of an animal?
LOL true
@@JH-nb4nnYeah, true, and amusing. Lovely romantic idea they had there.. But, um, mad cow disease? (feeding scrapies-infected sheep to cows - bad idea) or humans eating a perfectly matched HUMAN brain. The cannibal Fore tribe of PNG developed Kuru (laughing sickness) from eating human brains. So in that case, maybe stick to walnuts 😂
That's a great point!!!
Point to 1 vegan who has ever said that lmao.
@@marlowe1400 th-cam.com/video/5XYbqFDrEco/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mk-PZFqOjIkiNNc5
Starts at 49:57
Dr. Paul Mason is on point, as always. Great presentation.
There is no logical fallacy in only eating plants, there is nothing on point about that statement
@guitarszenyour tears are noted
@@user-gv8xf9ul5jcope ignoramus
I love listening to Dr. Paul Mason. I’ve learned so much from you thank you so much.❤
The same
Thank you Dr Paul Mason.🙏
Thank you low carb down under.🙏
I hope this info could enlighten all vegans and vegetarians for their own good sake.🤞
Yeah must be why a top handful of athletes are vegan and not winning world titles. Must be why we all look older and live with shorter lives. Must be the fiber giving us high blood pressure. And the tofu giving us high cholesterol.
I hope one day i get enlightenment 🤣🤣🤣
Dr Mason is a GENIUS
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Thank you, Dr. Paul Mason! Great lecture as always. Sharp, dense and on point.
@@guitarszen Your proof?
I'll give you that he's dense.
And FUNNY 😂😂😂
@@guitarszenAll the science points to plant based diets not working. What a joke.
Best summary of the arguments I've seen. Mason knocks it out of the ballpark again!
Right on darlin'.
Thank you Doc, for speaking the truth about the environmental reality of raising livestock versus crop-agriculture.
Anyone who's tried to produce their own food, on their own land large or small, knows just how dire the environmental emergency is -- and that the unmitigated lies about it never bloody stop! Some of us have been shouting it from the rooftops for years, decades and more, but it's fallen on deaf ears (and not without a lot of help doing so!).
I sincerely hope you get more traction.
And I hope everyone shares at least that part of the video with everyone they know.
"Thank you Doc, for speaking the truth about the environmental reality of raising livestock versus crop-agriculture." Dr, Mason is misleading people about what the science says about the issue. There is overwhelming scientific evidence that diets dominated by whole plant foods are not just vastly better for the planet, they are one of THE very most beneficial things people can do to reduce their ecological impacts and help restore biodiversity. You have to think globally and look at global data to understand this issue, and when you do, you can understand why global beef and mutton consumption must drop sharply to help us save Earth's ecosystems.
@@karlwheatley1244go for it!I’ll stick with eggs and steak,,
@@karlwheatley1244What a load of bunk. Continue your slaughter of millions of small creatures with your vegan diet, 100's times over consumption of precious water with your crops and soil degradation from mono cropping. Not to forget the billions wasted on health care consuming one of the least nutritious diet there is. Do some reading of RCT's for a start.
Love Dr Masons’s work, I always watch any new videos released with Dr Mason. My favourite carnivore/ Keto doc out there.
Amazing talk that even a regular member of my family could understand. Thanks Paul.
Outstanding presentation! Thank you, Dr. Mason, for your ongoing work to improve the metabolic and cardiovascular health of mankind!
As an acupuncture physician, I've told parents for many years not to force their children to eat vegetables because they are hard to digest. I used to say that we needed to focus on improving the health of the digestive system before they could approach vegetables. Now I tell them that vegetables are overrated, not necessary in the diet, and often cause digestive problems in otherwise healthy people.
I only eat meat and a little bit of fermented vegetables now, but back in the days my Chinese Medicine doctor recommended never eat raw vegetables and avoid green vegetables with curly leaves or curl into a ball.
"I've told parents for many years not to force their children to eat vegetables because they are hard to digest. I used to say that we needed to focus on improving the health of the digestive system before they could approach vegetables." As someone who teaches nutrition, those ideas have no basis in scientific reality. When you gradually (or rapidly) increase the amount of whole plant foods you eat, the types of bacteria in your gut shift over to ones that happily digest plant fiber and churn out short-chain fatty acids in return. All children should eat lots of fruits and vegetables.
@@karlwheatley1244 And yet fruits were never a regular part of the human diet until we could cultivate fruit trees; even then, they were eaten seasonally. Prehistoric man could not can or preserve fruits. They knew to eat them to fatten up for winter since they had sugar, and they were useful in that regard, but nothing a baby would eat or anyone else in seasons where they weren't ripe and ready. And btw, breastmilk provides for the growth of the gut microbiome perfectly without the need for any fruits or vegetables, and babies used to nurse for years. Many still do, thank goodness.
@@karlwheatley1244🤡
Our stomachs have an enzyme called triphosphate glycinerase that converts the nutrients in most plant foods into the neurotoxin CHEBI:50910. It is therefore essential to insert nutrient-dense root foods such as carrots and sweet potatoes directly into the rectum, where the good bacteria break them down into highly bio-available vitamins and minerals.
Red meat & eggs and goat dairy can be farmed on grass/weeds/wooded areas without a college degree and processed by the customers themselves if they want to help & they'll be very healthy. This leaves out a lot of middlemen & bankers & the more you do for yourself the less taxable labor you do. So they demonize the foods you & neighbors can grow easily.
👍 Yup. In antebellum US South (now impoverished by Big Ag) they used to raise hogs in the non-arable areas and brought in $$$$$. Now they eat Macca's and either try to run 3 low-paying jobs or live on welfare handouts paid from wealthier states, get Coke handed out at food banks, and are morbidly obese. 🥺
Yes! You need arable land to grow crops, but various ruminants can live off of most types of land. Chickens too.
Of course, in my part of the world, the food mafia has passed regulations that make it illegal to slaughter animals, so regular people can't produce their own meat, they have to buy it. The dairy mafia is even worse, even if you own a dairy farm it's illegal to have your spouse who lives with you on the farm taste a single drop of the milk you produce, it must be sent to large processors before it's legal for consumption.
@@BigSlimyBlob Well, something being illegal isn't always going to stop people from doing it.
What part of the world are you in @@BigSlimyBlob
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7 grams of red meat a day!!!!? A regular chicken egg weighs about 67 grams. I try to eat at least a pound of red meat a day with its fat and butter. That's over 400 grams.
Me too!
I'm currently interested in the effects of vegetarian diets, and particularly grains, on the brain. I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks that the world has gone crazy, totally irrational. Might this be because of the push towards seed oils and plant-based diets since the 1970s?
Read "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter
Contamination with herbicides is also an issue. As well as the very high levels of gluten.
You are not wrong in your assessment
It was really seed oils and sugar pushed onto us from late 70's. Demonisation of animal fat led to "Fat free" everything, the food industry substituted fat with sugar. Healthy to deadly.
Spot on, I have been thinking this for a while, without wanting to sound conspiritational... with WHO and other agencies pushing this vegan way of eating, blanking out animal meats and now we see the slaughter of many red meat (and chicken) animals it really makes you wonder!
I used to have a normal western diet and 5 Years ago was diagnosed with pernicious anaemia. I was tested for the antibodies (positive) and placed on 3 monthly injections of B12.
3 years ago I began a ketovore type diet and now no longer require the B12 injections.
This is a very important video that should be shared with all your vegan friends.
I don’t have any vegan friends…
@@AllThingsConsidered333 and even if you had any, they wouldn't want to hear it anyway!
As a farmer, I can tell you that it is almost impossible for a combine harvester to kill mice. With almost all crops, soybeans being the exception, the header of the combine is well above the ground. When soybeans are harvested the header has sensors touching the ground which allow the header to "float" across the surface of the ground. Even then a mouse would have to give a big jump just at the right time in order to be gobbled up by a combine. I'm sure from the road driving by it looks like it is devouring everything in it's path, in reality it's not. Mowing hay on the other hand does kill quite a few mice. A hay mower moves much faster than a combine and is cutting extremely close to the ground. You can see clear evidence of this by the birds such as ravens and crows that pick the dead mice out of the windrows of freshly cut hay. I've never seen them picking dead mice out of a field that's just been harvested. I am a carnivore, however I don't think people promoting a carnivore diet should use bad arguments.
Then we have to consider the loss of habitat for small animals caused by ploughing and then there's losses due to chemical spraying.
Mice are not all running free. They also have nests full of mouselets that don't jump. (PS I am aware of mouse plagues, and their horrific effects, along with grasshoppers. But the chemical approach to poisoning them away is also poisoning the planet).
When living on the land in a house with a heated slab floor (in a cold area) I quickly realised that we were supplying a mouse palace. When they "go home to die" and "home" is your walls, you also learn that "dead mouse" smell isn't quite Chanel No 5 and lasts about 3 weeks. So I feel for farmers but would like them to be able to function regeneratively, without using destructive chemicals, glyphosate/GMO and relying on chemical fertilisers. So it's hard. But I only buy grass-fed& finished beef as a start. I won't eat chicken unless it's genuinely small-farm, genuinely foraging for bugs etc and free-range. Half the grain is fed to cows in feedlots. They are not designed to eat grain. Like us, it makes them fat. That's why farmers send them to feedlots for finishing (=FATTENING). So we could do with a lot less grain if we stopped it.
PS 3 years carnivore, with the usual fabulous results (N=1).
It’s interesting that Dr Mason used, a number of reliable data points such as behaviour and mouse populations to estimate the kill per hectare, but missed the operational mechanical function of the harvester itself. This is the sort of error jumped upon by plant based advocates to discredit animal consumption arguments and so should be avoided.
Thanks for mentioning that!
I believe there are ways of setting up pastures with evergreens but it's kind of a lost art right now
What a brilliantly presented talk! Thank you Dr Paul x
Vitamin B12, Omega 3, Creatine, Iron.
Now when I refer to a vegan diet as an *"unhealthy vegan diet",* I'll remember to mention these nutrients.
Yes, strict vegan diet is so unhealthy.
Why are anti-vegan, pro-animal abuse people so willfully ignorant? Vitamin B12 is available cheap as a supplement and is fortified in many cereals and foods. Omega-3 fats are available in walnuts, flax seeds, chia seeds and hemp seeds and the human body converts the ALA to DHA & EPA based on 'need'. You don't need to feed humans meat to get Omega 3 fats. Next, Creatine is made in our own bodies, we don't need it from food. Iron is in plenty of vegetables like broccoli, spinach, beans and whole grains. Iron is in most fortified foods. So, please, STOP trying to mislead people about a vegan diet.
Creatine is by favourite, it's involved in building androgen receptors and have increased fertility rates in people taking ovulation treatment. also installed 4 healing in rats. low carnitine in autistic etc
Note how both Creatine and L-carnitine are healthy nutrients found in animal foods, while Creatinine - associated with kidney problems - is a waste product formed when digesting animal products.
Creatine and iron? Lol. Silly
Wow. This is one of the best videos I have ever watched. Well done. Well said.
the misinformation and stubbornness about veganism does help with population control
Through the route of expensive health care unfortunately, for which in the end we all pay the bill 😢
By design purposefully advanced to achieve this
@@DutchCarnivore my enemies are weak, pay me hand over fist, and worship me for my overwhelming benevolence (ignoring that vainglory is hidden malicious intent)
LOL Ellen Fisher has 5 kids now.
Wow! You must be a Bill Gates supporter!!😢
First error in the video at 0:29, the mom gave her bay a raw plant/fruit based diet which is very different from a "normal" vegan diet. I would not pay attention to people that intentionally discredits a subject based on inaccurate statements no matter of the subject.
Kindly define a 'normal' vegan diet.
I listen to your talks while I walk; it keeps me motivated and reassured that my keto lifestyle is healthy. Thank you for the great info!
Same!
A couple years ago when I submitted stool samples for myself and my dogs to "The American gut Project" I looked into how many different types of bacteria were in the guts of people eating various diets. The American Gut Project found that vegetarians had the lowest number of bacteria types. The more variety of bacteria you have in general the better you digest your food.
This presentation is superb. I don't know how vegans can rationalize the B12 deficiency. Crucial point Dr Mason makes, an adult person who goes vegan has a store of B12 in their liver that can last years. But eventually, the vegan diet is not sustainable because the B12 stored will run out.
They have a thing called supplements .
The animals you eat are supplemented.
It must work if farmers are doing it .
Why would they waste their money if it didn't work ?
You do realize that supplements exist, right? Omnivorous diets also tend to have certain nutritional blind spots, which is why companies started fortifying things like milk, salt, and cereals. Doesn't mean the diet isn't viable.
"Coincidentally", the average amount of time a vegan stays vegan is four years.
And young women usually need more iron than a vegan diet can supply. Plants can have iron, but it's not very absorbable.
Yes! At about the 6 year mark it seems!
I'm mid 60s, I remember my primary school teacher talking about this when I was about 7 years. I was always surprised over the years that so few people knew this. I really enjoyed her class.
This presentation is a gold mine of great information.
If your an idiot 😅
Not really. It is all cherry picked information to support his own propaganda. I've heard of these arguments before. Yawn. I've been vegan for 8 years now and my health is perfect.
Here's a ChatGPT summary:
- Vegan diets are not necessarily healthy or ethical
- There have been cases of malnutrition and death in children fed a vegan diet
- Belgian laws now require parents to supplement their children's vegan diets with vitamins and regular medical supervision
- Vegan diets can lead to severe consequences such as brain damage and bone fractures in children
- Plant-based foods do not contain vitamin B12, which is essential for health
- B12 deficiency can be deadly and cannot be obtained from plant foods without fortification or supplementation
- Vegan diets require artificial supplementation to be well-balanced
- Many vegetarians and vegans still suffer from B12 deficiencies
- Grass-fed steak contains essential nutrients that are absent or deficient in a plant-based diet
- Observational studies cannot prove causation and should be backed up by experimental research
- Surrogate markers used in nutritional research can be misleading
- Red meat does not cause bowel cancer, as claimed by the World Health Organization
- Meat has been used to treat scurvy and has been a part of human diets throughout history
- Plant-based diets lack essential nutrients such as omega-3 fats, creatine, and iron
- Iron deficiency can have long-term consequences on brain development and behavior
- Animal foods are more bioavailable and contain nutrients that are not found in plant foods
- Livestock farming does not monopolize agricultural land and can actually restore topsoil
- Livestock farming uses less blue water than crop farming
- Pesticide use in agriculture is widespread and can have negative health and environmental effects
- Glyphosate, a commonly used pesticide, can accumulate in food and has been found in breast milk
- Consuming organic foods can lower exposure to pesticides like glyphosate
Thank you low carb down under and Paul mason. You helped save my life
Thank you Paul, it's about time someone told the complete story and you have finally done it.
He has been ahead of his time for a while now.
Many of us knew this stuff was true for a long time. It is depressing thinking about the children and pets of vegans
I remember a vegan was trying to prove her dog preferred veggies over meat, had set up an experiment by both next to each other on a table. When she introduced the dog, she couldn’t stop it from going straight for the meat. I am not sure if it was staged, but it was hilarious and obvious.
There are seriously many vegans out there who try to feed their cats a plant-only diet.
I've even seen a few particularly insane ones consider building a giant fence in Africa to keep the herbivores on one side and the carnivore on the other side. They thought it would force the carnivores to go vegan and they'd be totally fine.
When you're that disconnected from reality, there is a serious risk that you will harm your child even if you don't intend to.
@@jimmckay2337love that video😂 but it was probably staged because if it wasn't then she wouldn't have uploaded it
As a side note, somewhere I read this week that turning animals vegan was recommended for....you know, climate change
@@jimmckay2337Dogs will eat anything if you pour milk and meat juices over their food. I wonder why :P
It's their choices. As far as I'm concerned the bigger the diversity of choices the better. Thus we can figure out what choices lead to what consequences, so we may learn more about how to structure our lives.
How healthy is the Vegan diet, well looking at that picture of Dr Michael Greger. I think that question as already been answered 😂😂
It's a little mean but I remember someone once posted a picture of him standing next to a little girl, and pointing out that the little girl had bigger arms than he does.
In the meantime half the carnivore doctors are mostly made of huge muscle.
Michael gregor is on and promotes a wholefood plant based diet, not only vegan but NO oils of any kind. They demonise fats in diet.
All of the older vegan advocates look very gaunt and appear to have advanced sarcopenia. None of them look like a role model for health: Greger, McDougall, Campbell, Esselstyn, etc.
Genetics are what you're observing, not the actual diet results on 'health'. A vegan diet has been shown to be more healthy for the heart and vascular system than an omnivore diet. I can show you vegan athletes who are just as muscular as any meat eating athletes. Comparing people who are of different genetics and saying the diet is the reason they look different is silly. Dr. Greger is a highly intelligent human being and if he scores higher on an IQ test than a omnivore, do we say it's the diet or genetic predisposition for inherited intelligence that may be the difference? People aren't born the same in nature. Some people hit the genetic lottery for either great outcomes or even poor outcomes. No one is perfect though. This is why diets are evaluated in the aggregate, not based on anecdotes.
@@timothys9288yet vegan athletes have consistently lower muscle mass when protein is controlled... I wonder whyy
Can we talk about the now expired scandalous 2016 'Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics: Veg*an Diets' paper, that continues to be cited and quoted worldwide, claiming that said diet is "appropriate for all stages of the life cycle".
How can we get this paper retracted?
As they say, lies circle the globe before the truth can tie its shoelaces. And once it's in the ether it's hard to kill. Think statins. STILL a blanket prescription. 🥺
Unfortunately dieticians look at health outcomes and serum levels to evaluate the viability of a diet, not fox news tier stat drops. Considering that properly planned vegan diets meet those standards you'll have no luck. Praying that you are able to cope with this loss. 🙏
You'll have to remove breastmilk because that contains animal products, lol...
@@marlowe1400 Actually "researchers" use whatever factors they think will best support the conclusion that they're paid to support.
If outcomes do not support conclusions that they're paid to support (for example, it makes them look bad when the results show that older people with high LDL die a lot less than those with low LDL), they'll only consider markers and ignore actual outcomes.
@Mallchad Your grasp of veganism is very weak there my eggstraordinary humorous pal.
Great info . Thanks Paul . We have gall bladders to squirt out bile too. And bile is there for eating meat and fat.
Yes, the liver produces the bile but it's interesting that we have a big reservoir to stockpile large amounts of it (the gallbladder).
And they tell us to eat 7g of meat a day...
Correct, and my gallbladder was in a bad way after years of a low fat diet. My doctor advised having it removed saying, "it's a very common operation these days". I didnt know enough then to question why it is a common operation.
Bile also assists in detoxification, helps to prevent constipation, and activates digestive enzymes; this towards liberating nutrients from food.
canine teeth in humans are made for eating meat
Outstanding presentation and information as always from Dr Mason. When l first started my own low carb journey a few years ago l made some errors in my choice of which influencers to follow. But like any new project you learn as you go along and Dr Mason is one of a few l now go to for real science and expert understanding of how the body and its physiology actually work.
Always love listening to Dr Paul Mason. Excellent
My ex's dog has gastritis!! The vet recommended that "for the time being, just feed him light food, like RICE". God help us.
HAHA 😁
Doctors are so clueless don't listen to them unless you are having a heartattack or broken leg
Paul Mason is a True doctor who understands that a proper human diet can heal and prevent unnecessary aging and diseases.
He is a great speaker, but this was most the most enlightening talk I have heard in years!!!! I think the What the Health guy should be pilloried. I will admit I was a vegetarian/pescatarian for 2 years, but now ketovore for three years now and healthier than ever at 67 y/o and a retired physician.
Forwarding to all my Vegan friends so I can cause distress on a Sunday! 💪😂
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You'll be sorely disappointed I'm afraid. None of these arguments are compelling and have been debunked 100x over. Easy peasy to be healthy as a vegan.
Sending in the digestive enzymes! 🎉 😊
I really enjoy your talks! As a medical scientist, I very much appreciate that you share papers you are referring to. I wish this was more common. Thanks for doing such a great job presenting the information, and for your subtle wit 😊
You're an amazing person to me. And your communication abilities is just wonderful. Thank you very much, doctor Paul Mason.
Thank you - some of the best information Ive heard in a LONG time. I would write a novel in reply as I have many thoughts on this from years of health and soil study but I wont (thankfully). A must watch/listen for all!
I feel sorry for Mic the vegan, his daughter died prematurely.
I pray he and earth hater Ed and the rest of the non-breatharians on earth will watch this. 🙏🙏🙏
Can you prove it was diet related ?
@@julienfroidevaux1143you're the only one in this thread mentioning diet...so you tell us. Was it malnutrition that caused the death?
And his partner apparently has bowel issues
I can confirm it was malnutrition.
B12 has to be absorbed by the intrinsic factor in the stomach you cant absorb it in the colon even if we produced some.
A truly excellent presentation that everyone should watch; incredibly informative, and very easy to understand. Dr. Paul Mason always delivers!
Just searched sources if iron and then red meat and iron - got mostly vegan options! This wasn’t the case 10 years ago I don’t think - but then I also knew red meat and liver were excellent sources of iron. No wonder people have no idea!
This is because plant based sources of iron have more iron per calorie. My in laws actually have a very old herb book and it recommends taking a ton of asparagus to cure anemia.
They have an agenda to push - search engines toe the party line
tel aviv rothchilds media is pushing a UN AGENDA 2030 , including vegan
Until it was artificially created in the fifties, liver is where B12 was obtained for people who couldn't get it from food.
Those were pretty compelling arguments, thanks for the information Dr. Paul Mason
If ever I had a man crush, this would be it.
I’m easily old enough to be his mother, but find him adorable.
And, of course, Brilliant!
He's a grandfather ☺️☺️
@Debbie-jz6ef good grief I thought he was about 30!
I loved the Hawaiian pizza joke. 😂😂😂
I am guilty of liking Hawaiin pizza. 🤣🤣🤣 The Queenslander in me misses pineapple.
Food that children eat like … bread based pizza, popcorn, refined carbohydrates, food cooked with seed oils, food with refined starch such as potato, refined grains or legumes… if these are fed to children on a regular basis this can lead to childhood illness including obesity and brain function changes, eye disorders, behavioral changes and skin disorders…
Tried a fast the other day…. Woke up from a nightmare in the early hours, in which I was running around screaming “where’s my steak! I’m starving!”, at random strangers.
Brilliant presentation as usual, Paul. Such a lot of research and work to give us a clear, balanced understanding….thank you so much. 🤗
Vegans get pretty militant when you trash their diet 😂
Look at the Lee Crosby video where she trashes keto and see the comments there. Keto followers can get pretty militant too! I live in a mixed marriage, my wife is vegan and I am keto, so it is safer for me to avoid militancy 😊
I wish more people could watch this presentation.
It's so important to get this out. It's such a good overview of the problems.
We should all bombard our government, and especially the health and food responsale, with this video... Some of them might begin to think, instead of just following trends and ideologies
dr Mason, watched all of his videos, i hope to get a podcast and interview Dr. Mason, really interesting health topic. there is more to nutrition at the microscopic level than Castle's intrinsic factor. okay, at the 2m mark that is my rant for now. we have to be healthy to be healthy, lol. you have to learn what you need and so forth. you cannot turn your back on health science as Dr. P. Mason's predecessors have. that is what i have learned, a portion of what i have learned. cant wait
The "real" science (as opposed to corporate ones) behind the dangers of glyphoste are only now starting to be heard and understood around the world. Thank you for all you've included here about it.
Brilliant presentation! Dr. Mason you are an inspiration to all!
This presentation is so well delivered
Doing the calculation, 1 hectare is .405 of an acre (each acre produces about 75 bushels of wheat) ... so, .405 x 75 is 30 bushels of wheat per hectare. You can get 80 loaves of bread out of a bushel, so 80 x 30 = 2400 loaves (1-1.5lbs each) of bread per hectare of wheat. But Paul just said in a plague year over 80% of 3000 mice die (2,400) per hectare just from poisoning (probably a painful death... more so than chopping by the combine?). So, each loaf of bread costs the life of a rodent, each plague year... or every 4 years. So... shouldn't vegans have No Bread Mondays or something every 4 years? That's a lot of rodents.
Your math is wrong
1 acre is 0.4 hectare
If faced with an infestation of rodents, I am fairly sure hifalutin arguments to save the poor wee rodents would soon collapse. 👀
The problem with his argument is that most of the crops that are grown and harvested in this way are not fed to humans. They're fed to animals. You don't think that cows ever step on rodents and accidentally kill them or bugs or whatever? Also the reality is that very few people eat a meat based diet... and if they did we'd quickly run out of land as it is the single largest use of land already. It's the single largest source of deforestation already. These mountains he thinks are perfect for grazing animals were once forests full of biodiversity which we're quickly losing.
How many acres of lush natural land is sacrificed to grow crops and how much chemical is used on this acreage?
@@bertvisser6944 I think you're being a bit petty over .005 of a hectare. Don't you?
What an excellent presentation. So much information, intelligently thought out and coherently put. Dr Paul Mason is a treasure of the utmost quality and integrity.
Another great presentation, Paul!
dr mason is a gem. can any vegan debunk or debate these claims?
I can.
@@trolojolo6178 sure
Another great video, Dr Paul Mason never disappoints!
I've tried keto, carni, vegan, just about all of them over 10yrs. I discovered my two biggest issues were candida and oxylates. The diet I've finally been succesful with is animal based (mostly hunted and fished) or 100% grass fed or local eggs, cheese, low oxylate, and gluton free. I'm not low carb, I eat some bananas, mango, butternut squash, and red skin potatoes. After 4 months of oxylate dumping and candida dieoff from implimenting daily kefir and throwing my whole system is a wirlwind, i finally feel better than I have in 10 yrs, gained 10lb of muscle in a month, and have energy to kill it in sales and get my strength back. My problem was never fat gain, has actually been weight loss, brain fog, and constipation. This took so much trial and error and research. Sally norton, elliot overton, ken berry,
Thank you Dr. Paul for the telling the whole story. Not many people do.
This is a old vid of Pauls , but one of his best.
This presentation was 15.10.23. I was fortunate to be there.
I thought it looked aged.
This is recent, it’s just basically a summary of a lot of his other lectures put together
@@jobrown8146it isn’t “aged”. It was this month as the comment before yours says.
@@Openskyhaven I stand corrected ! your right . He used the Cat on the tin roof a couple of years ago . which lead me believe this was a rerun.
He even looks younger .🥩
This was a great talk!! First time hearing Paul Mason and he's def on my fave list now! 😍🥩💪✌️
Fantastic sharing of REAL data. Thank you!!
That was a great talk and very informative. Thank you Dr Mason.
There are no traditional vegan diets anywhere in the world; the vegan diet emerged in 20th-century western nations. Even the vegetarian diets of India include generous amounts of dairy, and sometimes eggs and fish.
And don't forget pesticides and parkingsons disease.
this is among the very best of lectures of this type. Paul is always providing a near overdose of life -saving truths
Haven’t seen your new represent for a while , good to see it again
I do wonder whether corn tortillas made with properly nixtamalized corn are less bad when it comes to antinutrients. A lot of tortillas I’ve had do not seem to be of nixtamalized corn.
Genes matter, Amerindians can process corn 🌽 better but not dairy.
It's a lot of trouble to go to. Survival food requiring careful treatment to be of even minor nutritional value. Glad to have left all that behind. 😊
probably yes. a lot of these techniques were not for vanity but food safety and improving nutrient absorption. it likely denatures many of the anti nutrient proteins
Vegetables, legumes, grains, and mushrooms have no place in my diet. I haven’t been bloated once since I stopped eating those villains.
This is the best health and wellness channel on TH-cam.
Very good information - especially the enviromental part is good...
Thank you for all that you do Dr. Mason🙏🏻
Fantastic talk like always! Thank you Dr Mason!
Can you provide the sources? That would be great!
Hi, I am over 60 year old male, fit and healthy. I have been carnivore for 4 years, my LDL is high but not concerned. My calcium score is zero, my GP has recently had me test my ApoB. It was 2.0 and he said this was high, should I be concerned?
There are no cave paintings of broccoli.
Are there?