One tip, If I may, for the compressor, watch out for the volume difference, for the human ear, whatever is louder "sounds better" so, you can not really safely compare the compressed signal with the noncompressed one due to the volume difference. Thats valid for studio as well.
I use the CP 60 Wine Cellar for guitar. It is the first pedal in my send and return before my modulation pedals. Really fine tunes nicely and the mild/clean distortion is a nice feature. The pedal itself is like a parametric. It's a steal for the price. Absolutely love it.
I got the Behringer version of the Wine Cellar. It supposed has a noise in the system when switched on. Was told this from F O H engineer 1 time. But he also said I could use it cause no one else would hear it. On a side note I got that same pwr unit in a pedal bundle I won the bid on Ebay. 5 pedals and a pwr unit. Got a Soundtank tube screamer, a Vox multi unit, a Danelectro echo. All worthless to me. And a Joyo vintage O D and Joyo American. Both of those are worth talking about. That American is a M /Boogie sound alike and while it's not really close guess in reality depends on what you drive it through speaker wise. I got a Boogie and driving through the 12L in my cab gets it close. But for $66 that winning bid is a pretty cool deal. The pwr unit just sits around my music room to hook up occasional pedals. I got a big fancy 12 pedal board being powered by a Caline P-1 power unit. Will definitely recommend that 1. 4 yrs on my board powering as many as 16 pedals using outs on daisies for pedals not on board. Never a problem sound wise, interference wise, pedal power wise. All for, with Ebay bucks at the time, $22. 37 normally.
That's awesome that they sent you all those videos to review! I like the honest review as well. And I was always curious about the Wine Cellar. That one seemed the most intriguing to me.
All The CP-59 change gain/gnd lift switch is doing two things. 1. When in the down position in terms of gain there is full gain at the 1/4" (instrument level) and XLR (mic level) outputs. When in the up position, the gain at both the outputs is reduced by 6db. 2. For the grounding function: when the switch is in the down position it ties the analog signal ground to chassis/earth ground. When the switch is in the up position it lifts earth/chassis from signal ground. ***There is a problem with the grounding scheme. XLR pin 1 is only referenced to AGND, aka signal ground. This is the old method and incorrect way of grounding an XLR. I have brought this issue up with Caline and they are aware. This issue looks to have been solved on The Wine Cellar. ****Without diving into board modifications I would suggest using a pin 1 ground lift adapter like the Hosa GLT-255 when using the XLR in conjunction with the 1/4" outlets. This ensures that there won't be any ground loops between your equipment.
I'm curious about what order you had the compressor with the overdrive and fuzz? Compression can go before overdrive, but can suck the life out of a fuzz pedal when placed before it. Compression can go after overdrive, but I prefer to put it before. I feel that you lose a little sparkle from the overdrive when it's placed after. I wonder if you have the compression in the same position for both demos, leading me to wonder if maybe only one of those pedals actually sucked.
I got me one of the Wine Cellar thinking the XLR output could be used as a DI with phantom power but it doesn't work with phantom power at all. It only sends out the same level as the jack output when plugged to a 9v power source. What's the deal with that?
(what is the make of your p-bass bridge pup?) - Wine Cellar makes a nice bass preamp in conjunction with mini class D power amplifiers (TPA3116, TPA3255) - could use more gain. What Caline needs to make for bass guitar is a 3 band parametric EQ
The bass compressor controls are confusing, don't go by the name of them. There are two compressor/limiter stages. Each one has an attack/release setting of 10ms/100ms. Compressor ratios are also fixed. Estimating the 1st stage is 20:1, 2nd stage is about 6:1 ALL THESE ARE SET VALUES AND CANNOT BE ADJUSTED. Confirmed with the schematics of this pedal courtesy of Caline! - Description of each control: GAIN - Input pre-gain stage VOL - Post Effect Gain Stage (this is basically "make-up gain", but IMO could use more gain) COMP - Overall signal level to the side chain circuit for the two compressor stages ATTACK - Level to 1st compressor/limiter stage, essentially a peak limiter SENSE - Level to 2nd compressor/limiter stage, a familiar bass compressor feel. ***the more CW you turn these knobs, the lower the threshold for the stages to engage compression/limiting.
I find bass compressors to be something you can’t skimp on. I have tried many, and finally found the ultimate bass compressor, The Custard Factory, by Black Country Customs. It is worth every penny. Not a fan of the overdrive or fuzz. The best budget bass overdrive I have found is the Joyo Double Thruster. Best budget fuzz I have found is the Sonicake Fazy Cream.
Hey Carlos! I have never used the Boss GT-1B or any multi-effect pedals for the most part. Definitely a cool way to get a ton of effects at a reasonable price, but personally I enjoy purchasing pedals from different companies since it's rare to find a single company that can nail every effect properly.
@@MyBassistChris Yeah, ending up keeping all those pedals is really nice and let able to freely interchange them and increase tone possibilities. I ended up opting for the GT-1B since it's a good way to initially assemble a pedal arrangement. Here in Brazil, individual pedal prices are absurdly high! For now I'm intend to get a boss FS-7 to improve my current chain and in the future add some stompboxes :) Keep up your bass covers and equipment review man, they are excellent videos! See ya
The Wine Cellar is a fantastic affordable DI and is great at getting a gritty tone. If you don't have a DI and are looking for an affordable pedal I definitely recommend it. If you are just looking for an overdrive or a dirt pedal I would highly recommend the Joyo Tauren
How are you feelin' about the power supply, mai gai? Have more pedals now, so been looking at some to power all of them at once while reducing the amount of noise.
The power supply was solid! I didn't notice any noise when I had all of the pedals daisy chained (I totally forgot to show it in this video). The cables are thin which is nice, but they're short. Overall very solid for $50! Would have to set up an actual board to get a solid feel for the supply.
The Sire is great! The pickups on it sound fantastic and the rolled edge fretboard is a nice touch. I never use it in active mode so maybe the V5 would have been better for me but I didn’t like the finishes. Hopefully they release metallic finishes for the V5s
I don't wanna sound mean but... there's no such thing as a "bass compressor"... compressors are compressors. The best compressors used in countless records are the ones that just compressors and have been used from voice to bass to guitar, drums and more. Bass Compressor.. or guitar compressor... it's just a marketing thing
@@gabrielkartsch4637 you are talking to a professional audio engineer with a degree in audio engineering, and based on your response you clearly do not understand compressors. If there is any difference between a guitar compressor and a bass compressor pedal, the only I could think of is the attack, release and ratio could be set differently and you can’t change them. Frequency wise? Unless we are taking about multiband compressors, which none of the ones in the video are, then there could be a difference, and even then w a multiband one you do not need a special one for guitar or bass. I suggest you study audio engineering
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One tip, If I may, for the compressor, watch out for the volume difference, for the human ear, whatever is louder "sounds better" so, you can not really safely compare the compressed signal with the noncompressed one due to the volume difference. Thats valid for studio as well.
Great playing Chris. Thanks for sharing with us.
Best caline demo ever so far🎸👍☯️🙏😃❤️
You don't know what to play with an autowah ??? FUNK my friend !!! This one sounds really good, better that some big brand... great reviews, thanks.
I use the CP 60 Wine Cellar for guitar. It is the first pedal in my send and return before my modulation pedals. Really fine tunes nicely and the mild/clean distortion is a nice feature. The pedal itself is like a parametric. It's a steal for the price. Absolutely love it.
Whoa never thought of using it for guitar, I"ll definitely have to try that out!
I got the Behringer version of the Wine Cellar. It supposed has a noise in the system when switched on. Was told this from F O H engineer 1 time. But he also said I could use it cause no one else would hear it. On a side note I got that same pwr unit in a pedal bundle I won the bid on Ebay. 5 pedals and a pwr unit. Got a Soundtank tube screamer, a Vox multi unit, a Danelectro echo. All worthless to me. And a Joyo vintage O D and Joyo American. Both of those are worth talking about. That American is a M /Boogie sound alike and while it's not really close guess in reality depends on what you drive it through speaker wise. I got a Boogie and driving through the 12L in my cab gets it close. But for $66 that winning bid is a pretty cool deal. The pwr unit just sits around my music room to hook up occasional pedals. I got a big fancy 12 pedal board being powered by a Caline P-1 power unit. Will definitely recommend that 1. 4 yrs on my board powering as many as 16 pedals using outs on daisies for pedals not on board. Never a problem sound wise, interference wise, pedal power wise. All for, with Ebay bucks at the time, $22. 37 normally.
I absolutely love the tone of your pbass
The Wine Cellar and Widow on low gain setting were pretty good.
Your green mm/precision bass sounds excellent...
That's awesome that they sent you all those videos to review! I like the honest review as well.
And I was always curious about the Wine Cellar. That one seemed the most intriguing to me.
Glad you enjoyed the review! Yes the Wine Cellar was my favorite out of all of these by far. $40 for a great preamp with a DI is a steal
That bass sounds sick. I always wanted to try MMP
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The CP-59 change gain/gnd lift switch is doing two things.
1. When in the down position in terms of gain there is full gain at the 1/4" (instrument level) and XLR (mic level) outputs. When in the up position, the gain at both the outputs is reduced by 6db.
2. For the grounding function: when the switch is in the down position it ties the analog signal ground to chassis/earth ground. When the switch is in the up position it lifts earth/chassis from signal ground.
***There is a problem with the grounding scheme. XLR pin 1 is only referenced to AGND, aka signal ground. This is the old method and incorrect way of grounding an XLR. I have brought this issue up with Caline and they are aware. This issue looks to have been solved on The Wine Cellar.
****Without diving into board modifications I would suggest using a pin 1 ground lift adapter like the Hosa GLT-255 when using the XLR in conjunction with the 1/4" outlets. This ensures that there won't be any ground loops between your equipment.
I'm curious about what order you had the compressor with the overdrive and fuzz? Compression can go before overdrive, but can suck the life out of a fuzz pedal when placed before it. Compression can go after overdrive, but I prefer to put it before. I feel that you lose a little sparkle from the overdrive when it's placed after. I wonder if you have the compression in the same position for both demos, leading me to wonder if maybe only one of those pedals actually sucked.
I got me one of the Wine Cellar thinking the XLR output could be used as a DI with phantom power but it doesn't work with phantom power at all. It only sends out the same level as the jack output when plugged to a 9v power source. What's the deal with that?
(what is the make of your p-bass bridge pup?) - Wine Cellar makes a nice bass preamp in conjunction with mini class D power amplifiers (TPA3116, TPA3255) - could use more gain. What Caline needs to make for bass guitar is a 3 band parametric EQ
The bass compressor controls are confusing, don't go by the name of them.
There are two compressor/limiter stages. Each one has an attack/release setting of 10ms/100ms. Compressor ratios are also fixed. Estimating the 1st stage is 20:1, 2nd stage is about 6:1 ALL THESE ARE SET VALUES AND CANNOT BE ADJUSTED. Confirmed with the schematics of this pedal courtesy of Caline!
- Description of each control:
GAIN - Input pre-gain stage
VOL - Post Effect Gain Stage (this is basically "make-up gain", but IMO could use more gain)
COMP - Overall signal level to the side chain circuit for the two compressor stages
ATTACK - Level to 1st compressor/limiter stage, essentially a peak limiter
SENSE - Level to 2nd compressor/limiter stage, a familiar bass compressor feel.
***the more CW you turn these knobs, the lower the threshold for the stages to engage compression/limiting.
I´d choose CP60 Wine Cellar + CP73 Equalizer
Your video help sell me in trying out the wine cellar. Just ordered.
I find bass compressors to be something you can’t skimp on. I have tried many, and finally found the ultimate bass compressor, The Custard Factory, by Black Country Customs. It is worth every penny.
Not a fan of the overdrive or fuzz. The best budget bass overdrive I have found is the Joyo Double Thruster. Best budget fuzz I have found is the Sonicake Fazy Cream.
Caline pedals seem to be a pretty good value. I have the Pure Sky and it is very good for the price.
Got me the Wine cellar and the Over drive earlier today, tried em and they both sound amazing 😎🤘
Must be the guitar player in me, but I was digging the widow!😂
Good review. Very informative. Thanks!
Oh YURRRRRR! New video!
nice review, nice playing
Their Brutus pedal sounds great on bass.
i got bass autowah but it has a hizz/fizz sounds..is it normal?
Sup chris! I would like to know your opinion about boss GT-1b. Have you ever considered use it alone or even in your signal chain/pedalboard?
Hey Carlos! I have never used the Boss GT-1B or any multi-effect pedals for the most part. Definitely a cool way to get a ton of effects at a reasonable price, but personally I enjoy purchasing pedals from different companies since it's rare to find a single company that can nail every effect properly.
@@MyBassistChris Yeah, ending up keeping all those pedals is really nice and let able to freely interchange them and increase tone possibilities. I ended up opting for the GT-1B since it's a good way to initially assemble a pedal arrangement. Here in Brazil, individual pedal prices are absurdly high! For now I'm intend to get a boss FS-7 to improve my current chain and in the future add some stompboxes :)
Keep up your bass covers and equipment review man, they are excellent videos! See ya
So you like the wine cellar as an affordable 'over drive' for the punk sort of sound?
The Wine Cellar is a fantastic affordable DI and is great at getting a gritty tone. If you don't have a DI and are looking for an affordable pedal I definitely recommend it. If you are just looking for an overdrive or a dirt pedal I would highly recommend the Joyo Tauren
How are you feelin' about the power supply, mai gai? Have more pedals now, so been looking at some to power all of them at once while reducing the amount of noise.
The power supply was solid! I didn't notice any noise when I had all of the pedals daisy chained (I totally forgot to show it in this video). The cables are thin which is nice, but they're short. Overall very solid for $50! Would have to set up an actual board to get a solid feel for the supply.
hey man, can you do a cover of Dirty Air by Two Door Cinema Club? I can’t find bass tabs anywhere
Great video!
Can i ask for sponsor for that like the yellow one
How's the new Sire bass holding up?
The Sire is great! The pickups on it sound fantastic and the rolled edge fretboard is a nice touch. I never use it in active mode so maybe the V5 would have been better for me but I didn’t like the finishes. Hopefully they release metallic finishes for the V5s
muy buen video saludos desde tijuana
Exquisito video.
bro is that an active bass?
Bro was that Crush by Polyphia at some point?
Yes it was! I should have played it using hybrid picking though lulz
Broooo fuck yes
I don't wanna sound mean but... there's no such thing as a "bass compressor"... compressors are compressors. The best compressors used in countless records are the ones that just compressors and have been used from voice to bass to guitar, drums and more. Bass Compressor.. or guitar compressor... it's just a marketing thing
Don't talk nonsense... do you know what the word "frequencies" means? guitar and bass have totally different frequencies...
@@gabrielkartsch4637 you are talking to a professional audio engineer with a degree in audio engineering, and based on your response you clearly do not understand compressors. If there is any difference between a guitar compressor and a bass compressor pedal, the only I could think of is the attack, release and ratio could be set differently and you can’t change them. Frequency wise? Unless we are taking about multiband compressors, which none of the ones in the video are, then there could be a difference, and even then w a multiband one you do not need a special one for guitar or bass. I suggest you study audio engineering
@@iamjiroeI was going to mention multi band which obviously works really well on bass, but you covered it haha.
@@iamjiroei wonder if bro studied audio engineering
@@Gosk I did in fact study music production and audio engineering in Berklee in Boston