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When I was a kid, I had a relative who gave birth in the 6th month & sadly the child didn't survive long because their organs weren't fully developed. Afterwards, my relative found out she had a blood issue that she took medication for & was able to have another child later. Ever since then, my thoughts on being "pro-life" vs. "pro-choice" have always been abortion is fine in the 1st & 2nd trimesters since the child can't survive outside the womb on their own, but 3rd trimester it depends on if the birth will effect the life of the mother.
I laughed out loud when they showed the clinic employees throwing her baby shower and framing it as this horribly insensitive thing. How dare those evil monsters... *checks notes* support a mother to be and celebrate her upcoming birth.
- Does 1930s gangster voice. - Because, see, it makes them hypocritical, see? Because see, you can only not abort any fetus (fetuses=babies, see) or be happy for any baby, see? Which means, see it is bad and they're bad, see? SEE?!
Completely unrelated: I love the phrase "checks notes". It implies that the notion is so preposterous that the brain refuses to commit it to long term memory, presumably out of self defence, and so you need to carry a slip with a reminder lest you forget it.
The fact that this company went on to copyright claim every single second of film used in this review tells you all you need to know about how willing they are to listen to dissenting opinions. The fact CJ managed to upload it anyway tells you how much of an alpha chad he is.
It just seems like they go so hard to make those with different views seem comically evil. Personally, I don't think abortions should be used as a form of birth control and shouldn't be performed after a certain period, unless it's for medical reasons. But that doesn't mean that I think abortions shouldn't be available. It's up to the individual to make that choice for themselves and I'm not going to harass anyone for making a choice that I may not agree with. I wish we all could stop judging each other as a group and start taking people and scenarios on an individual, case by case basis. Life isn't black and white, there are many shades of gray. I just try to treat everyone with respect, kindness and grace. Unless I'm driving, but I am working on having more patience behind the wheel! 🤣❤️
That's actually not too far off from the truth. The PP clinic I worked at scheduled all their abortions for Wednesdays so that they could have the appropriate staff in once a week. Now there were people that came in for other things, but the vast majority of the clinic time was spent on abortions that day. And the protesters did figure it out and show up on those days.
@@warlordofbritannia Planned Parenthood is closed on Sundays, or at least my local one is so that's a good irl reason as to why not Sunday, though I doubt they would put even the barest amount of effort to research something like that.
I’m related to the person that wrote this book. She’s one of my cousins. She’s had abortions but believes others shouldn’t be allowed to make that decision for themselves… My aunt tried to get me to watch this movie when I was visiting. I declined.
When I was visiting my extended family in Texas, my Aunt wanted me to watch this movie. She was like “it’s really dark but has a good message” I watched it on my own later. The movie is really dumb. And is full of misinformation. I still can’t comprehend how she’s had abortions and is now like “no one can make this choice for themselves because of my personal experience and beliefs”
@@hanners4895 It's the whole 'only my abortion is justified' thing. 'Everyone else got their abortion because they're wh*res and sl*ts' - it's an arrogant, judgmental line of thinking, not treating others with the same respect they want.
I occasionally end up with blood on my shoes working at the red cross drawing blood. What a weirdly unintentional benign scene for me and people in healthcare.
Regardless of your personal beliefs, a band name like Pieces of Children would go hard and should definitely tour with bands like Dying Fetus, Butcher Babies, Infant Annihalator, etc
They did not seriously try to use “How To Save a Life,” a song about how to save others in their struggles, and try to twist it to say “No no no. It’s about being anti-abortion.”
Reminds me of how right wingers try to use “We’re Not Gonna Take It” by Twisted Sister to support their views, when the singer himself said he stood against them.
"Born in the USA" is often played as a patriotism anthem, when it's about how returning vets from Vietnam faced major economic hardships while Americans give surface-level love and praise about the military rather than actually helping them.
In a similar vain, there's "Fortunate Son," which is often played up as a patriotic war song, when it's really an anti war song about how the narrator had the misfortune of being forced to go fight in the war and ends up traumatized by it, and about all the upper class kids his age who were able to avoid the draft due to their parent's money, something he didn't have the fortune of.
I cannot believe she literally called her mixed-race son her "brown son" and said it was alright for police officers to profile him. Like...seriously? The poor child!
@@e-tean-son4146 And it is a controversial opinion that I fully agree with. It is a person literally devaluing a group (or groups) of people's lives vs. people who actually values the lives of those who need it (both mentally physically)
And it feels like she's straight up admitting that in the event of having multiple children of different skin tones, the whitest would be her golden child...either that or she just has no clue how most children end up the way they do, and thinks parental guidance does fuck all
@@stuffynosepatrol and? All women who die in childbirth have developed pain receptors. Again, in a lot of these cases, the child is either heavily deformed and will languish in agony while slowly dying, or will their mother/both of them. Women shouldn’t have to slowly die just because the fetus can feel pain.
Yeah, nobody has a late-term abortion because they just got distracted or suddenly "changed their mind" because they realized a kid was going to harsh their mellow.
Once, in my very late teens/early 20s, I had a job that didn't have health insurance. I had read somewhere that planned parenthood (in my town it was called "womens health center" but it was a planned parenthood) gave free womans healthcare (pap smears, gyn, etc.) I had a cyst on my ovary, for which I had went to the emergency room. Anyway I went to this planned parenthood because I couldn't afford a private GYN. I, being young and having not read the news, was surprised to see a bunch of women standing outside and stopping people. One of the ladies stopped me and said "your mother wouldn't want you to do this. You look like a good girl, your mother loves you." And I was like "my mom wouldn't want me to get a pap smear?" I was so confused. 😂 and the lady, also confused, was like "what?" And I was like "also, my mom is dead." And she was like "oh, I'm so sorry" and walked off.
I went to a PP in my early 20's for a birth control script because I also couldn't afford a private doctor. While I was in there and my boyfriend was in the waiting room waiting for me, somebody slashed one of his tires. We only noticed after we got back in the car to leave. We went back the next day to tell security what happened and ask if they had any CCTV footage of that angle (they didn't). I stayed in the car. My boyfriend walked out of the building alone, and one of the protesters yelled "save your baby!" at him. It was just so weird and asinine to be shouting that at a lone man.
Planned parenthood doesn’t have any free services. I tried to go there many times for services, and it was insane expensive. I ended up going to Christian pregnancy centers, everything was free. Oh and I’m an atheist so…
You've got to love how they show a 13 week old human fetus attempting to escape its demise when a human newborn would just lie there in its crib and do nothing but scream.
My mom had a miscarriage about 15 years ago when I was 10. It was late miscarriage due to a fetal abnormality. She had to undergo a D&E (dilation & evacuation) which is a an abortion procedure. She put under anesthesia and only felt slight cramping and bled a little. This was a very wanted pregnancy. Even after having almost 3 kids my mom is still very pro choice. Since Roe V Wade was overturned having a miscarriage can be seen as an abortion because there is no way to prove that it was natural end to the pregnancy. Also in your medical records if you get a D&C or another similar procedure for a miscarriage it will be listed as an abortion.
On my medical records I had one abortion. Abortion is the medical definition. “Miscarriage” is a colloquial term, not medical. So I stop a lot of anti-choice people when I put out my file and show them “one abortion.” And they want to cry with me and ask me why I chose that. Lmao dummies. It was what you would call a miscarriage but you wanna pass laws that make me go to jail. And laws that kill women. And laws that punish doctors. Momma Doctor Jones is really good for more info about this for anyone curious.
@@tabathaalshalhoub1653 Yep. Even the medical textbooks I read as a teenager for my sexual education consistently referred to miscarriage as "spontaneous abortion" or "abortion."
Lol yes, 0.3% of abortions are due to a threat of miscarriage, that's why we need to enable aborting 99% of healthy kids 😂👍🏻 It's just SCIENCE, we fascists wouldn't get it
@@Studiocarre2 Abortion is MURDER! If you bother to make them, bother to raise them. Fight not for supporting ABORTION, FIGHT against fornications. BE NOT A MURDERERS NOR FORNICATORS! KJV BIBLE: Exodus 20:13 - Thou shalt not kill. 1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. Abortion is the evil plan of masons, the depopulation of mankind. 500 000 000 souls, thats all their after.
You know what's even worse? They showed this movie at my school last year. I go to an italian catholic school and the principal decided to make the high school watch this movie. When it ended, the teachers left us alone to talk about the movie. We were all thinking the same thing. At one point a kid stood up and said "This movie is shit", we all started cheering at him.
Just in the interest of fairness, I'd like to see someone make a similar movie about the (very real) potential horrific outcomes of pregnancy and childbirth... both of which carry considerably more risk than abortion.
@@notacatnt Pro-aborts seem to forget that abortion DESTROYS a human beings body..... That's way worse than 99.99+% of the side effects of pregnancy. If a woman is so paranoid about her body being altered during pregnancy and would actually kill her unborn child over that paranoia (wow!) then she had better make sure there is ZERO percent chance of an unplanned pregnancy happening.
Considering the state of maternity care and the very real and very horrific lasting injuries a woman can be left with (I used to work for a law firm where birth injuries were a big part of their medical negligence work) it could be truly horrific! And that's before you even deal with the emotional trauma of a miscarriage or still birth - somethung these religious nuts don't give a single shit about when they're trying to ban these medical procedures.
I had to have an abortion when I was a child due to me being a r@pè victim, that abortion saved my life, I would have DIED. Without it, it makes me boil with rage when people act like that
I had abortion due to rape too and as somebody who was also victim of child abuse I never want to have kids. I was ready to kill myself of I didn't get the abortion. Abortion saves lives. Saved my life. It sucks but we are strong for choosing the right path.
This is the exact reason why I dont get that there are people who are against abortion. Its just sickening knowing that there are alpt out there that got their lifes ruined because of it. Also shows why religion isn't of this time anymore
Didn't have that, but did have to have 3 D&CS because of miscarriages and tubular ligation because of an ectopic pregnancy. These are now outlawed in several states if you are still breathing. Abortion = Healthcare! Forced birth is barbaric and harmful!!!!
She admitted, openly, that she doesn't give a fuck about her "brown son" by referring to him that way and by saying he should know to be more careful, he should know to have his guard up, because people think he looks like a predator.
In her youth, my mom escorted women to the doors of planned parenthood. She had animal blood thrown on her and was called a whore and a murderer while shielding other women with her body.
My college film professor made us watch this shit, and said it leaned both ways on the political spectrum. I lost all respect for her after this movie.
“B-but they could be the one to cure cancer!” They won’t be able to even get past elementary school if people are not mentally or financially prepped to manage a child, guys
And that means we should just snuff out a human life? I really hope you appreciate that YOU got to live whilst you're saying innocent others shouldn't.
@@blunderingfool i hope you had a good upbringing because most unwanted children don't. Giving women the choice of when to have a child benefits the child in the long run. No one should be born to suffer abuse and neglect. Also...human life....a clump of cells is human life? Watch a documentary about how pregnancy works (there's a really cool one i watched as a child, is like Once Upon a Time... Life, it's awesome!)
@@blunderingfoolHuman life? Given you appear to be British I'm stunned at how poor your sex education is or knowledge of UK law; I learned this stuff in a religious primary school so you have no excuses. Induced Abortion is illegal over approx. 24 weeks of pregnancy pending extreme circumstances. Why? Because anything before that isn't alive. A fetus is merely a mass of material until brain activity begins at the 25th week.
@@blunderingfool If you want to call a zygote a "human" go ahead. us here in the real world who aren't so heavily fucking damaged by the weight of our stupidity will continue being correct.
"I know that some day, I'm going to meet each of you in Heaven." Wait a minute. She's saying that the aborted fetuses are in Heaven? You're telling me that she gave these souls free tickets to Heaven, removing the risk of growing up not believing and going to Hell, and she's supposed to feel bad about this?
As an ex catholic, I feel like they glossed over the whole Limbo thing! (Where non-evil unbaptised people go, it's like a subpar heaven or moderate hell.)
@@gregoryfenn1462I’m guessing it’s because the creators/funders of the film aren’t Catholic? Iirc Pureflicks is super Evangelical and Evangelicals traditionally hate Catholics.
Thinking about that I'm reminded of another anti-abortion movie that takes place in pergatory. Three pregnant girls in an underground ward with a doctor forcing them to go through with carrying their babies to term only to realize they died at the abortion clinic. The ones who accepted their babies go to heaven, the last girl whose baby doesn't survive, and the doctor are sent to hell.
The fact the people who made this film put in really graphic abortion scenes to hammer home their terrible argument and THEN got surprised when the movie got hit with an R rating is incredibly funny like what did you expect
@@lutajucientropija6643 When your argument is a lie. By sensationalising it, you're trying to bypass the critical parts of your audience's brain that says "here, wait a minute..."
OK, one tiny part of this just fascinated me: the Christian, pro-"family values" lady thinks that you should get one vote per household? Cuz... that literally just created an incentive for people NOT to live in the same household. I assume she probably *also* thinks that single people shouldn't have a vote at all or something... but unless she says that, she's just told everyone that getting married and moving in together halves your combined vote and you should want that. I dunno, maybe she's right. Maybe some singleton tyranny is in order.
Tbh, 52% of American adults read at a 6th grade (11 year old) level. She may be onto something by limiting how many people can vote. Could stop people like Trump and Biden from getting elected in the future.
@@VonVikoGoat - I mean, to be fair, most US Evangelicals would have Jesus arrested for communism if he showed up in their neighbourhood preaching that tolerance and compassion and what-not.
@@FTZPLTC Glad you specified US evangelicals (in germany they're for some reason very liberal) Edit: Apparently I mistranslated smth, my bad @grotty5214 explains it a bit further down
I was forced to watch this movie (back when I was still a Christian) and sobbed through the whole thing. I thought I was going to see an Avengers movie. Anyway your comment was so funny it healed all my trauma
It's not just "X to doubt"...I have been screamed at by those people just for going in to get my IUD (or get it replaced), because they either A) Already think ALL these places do is abortions, or B) They saw this movie and took that "Only abortions on Saturdays" line is legit...I don't actually know, but like...I have only ever gone to Planned Parenthood on weekends, and I have never had, nor needed, an abortion. It's ridiculous.
The planned parenthood where I live doesn’t even perform abortions, and you still see protestors standing outside the clinic. These prolifers really don’t want to do their research
Not Saturdays, but I was a volunteer escort at a PP in college and two days a week, they only did abortion services. One day was counseling, the other day was procedures (because my state had a waiting period). From what I understand, it was because PP received federal funding but couldn't use any of it for abortion. We actually had to turn away people coming for BC on those days and tell them to come back the next day because of this. And yes, the protests were much larger on abortion days.
This!! I used to volunteer at a women's clinic in Tennessee before the overturn of Roe, even though that clinic primarily gave out contraception and testing (pregnancy/mammogram/sti):these "godly" people would show up with fetus gore posters, dragging their children out to scream obscenities. I shit you not, the only way they would leave is just fucking with them like you're Eric Andre. They LOVE to sit and argue against facts all day, but they hate being asked to do the dougie
I remember when I was 14 or 15 and the private Christian school I went to gave us extra credit for attending a free screening of this movie. I remember feeling horrified while watching thinking: Abortion is wrong, this is murder. Now that I'm an adult with critical thinking skills I'm like: That was freaking propaganda...wtf Also for anyone whose wondering I am pro-choice and I don't think people without a uterus should be making laws about it.
@@AutismGaming489 One might say it’s a CHOICE. My reasoning for being pro choice is the multiple women who are being denied life saving abortions for ectopic pregnancies, the women who are forced to deliver babies that will not survive, and the women with the health condition I have that are suffering because of pro-lifers. Being pro choice gives these people the choice upon their own body whereas being pro-life removes it. Also before you say anything about being autistic or throwing that into this discussion I am not saying being pro-choice means aborting a possibly autistic child, if that were the case I wouldn’t be here.
@@ChessurDeCattyeah that was weird. I’m autistic too but I don’t think autism has anything to do with this argument, or general critical thinking skills at all.
In Germany, we are taught that nothing, and absolutely nothing under any circumstance can be compared to the holocaust. Even the worst atrocities should not be set equal to the holocaust because an atrocity of such an extent deserves to stand alone as an absolute evil rather than something relative. It disgusts me when people compare the holocaust to their belief of some form of eradication. Also I'm catholic and there is no way in hell that we are being discriminated against in western countries such as the US and Europe. I've met middle eastern christians who go to church with armed guards at the gates because of repeated terrorism. American evangelical christians arent oppressed if they can have a netflix equivalent.
It's also really easy to avoid since the Holocaust is a very specific event in history. Could just say it's a genocide I disagree with that notion. I just think it's easy to avoid comparing it specifically to the Holocaust. But for that conservatives would have to read and think critically.
In America, *everything* is like the Holocaust---except the actual Holocaust, which a disturbing number of pundits, politicians, and regular people parroting the above will say wasn't that big of a deal in the first place!
I think the comparison is fair. At the time of the holocaust, most Germans saw no issue with the holocaust and pro-choicers and those who are impartial see no issue with abortion. Once there is no abortion anymore, everyone will realize how evil abortion is.
Welcome back! I hope you're feeling better! One of my husband's coworkers was arguing that Pro-choice people are trying to force abortion on everyone, and my husband looked at the guy and said "We're not saying you have to get an abortion every month; we're telling you to have a choice if you want to or not... " Surprisingly, my husband was able to shut up a construction worker.
I'll take "That didn't happen." for 500, Bill! No one on the anti-death side thinks "pro choice" means enforced abortions. Good fucking grief, self report much?
@@blunderingfoolwhen you have people on your side saying that 10 year olds should be forced to give birth , i have a hard time separating the strawmen from the genuine articles. theres shitheads on both sides of this argument
Lmao when I was in the seventh grade this one girl told us her aunt went to an abortion clinic and saw the surgery room walls were covered in blood and there were babies crying in the trash cans. We were sheltered preteens, but all of us were like "Jessica, that is the fakest thing we've ever heard."
Abby was flabbergasted by that patient at 27:48 getting an abortion for “convenience”, but she herself had an abortion after her divorce because she didn’t want anything to do with her loser ex. Like girl you also aborted your pregnancy for “convenience” so I don’t understand why you’re so shocked by this.
ah, but you see, that situation was different. Because it affected the POV character, so therefore it was justifiable. That other girl was just a background character who in no way has any deeper thoughts or background on why she might get an abortion. Obviously. (But seriously, this hypocrisy is surprisingly prevalent in Right Wing circles. Something iscompletely bad and evil and of the devil until it suddenly affects me personally, in which case it's actually a lot more complicated you see?)
I don't think having a child with a shxt person is an inconvenience. Being pregnant with someone you hate, having to co-parent and have their presence in your life for ever causes great distress. Not choosing that isn't "for convenience" it's for mental health for you and potential child.
@Samson16436 Tbf she’s not obligated to tell her ex that she’s pregnant or co parent the kid with him. She left him because he’s a bum so it’s not like he’d even want to stick around anyway. She aborted the second pregnancy simply because she just didn’t want to have her ex’s child. She has her parents and other family for support. I’m sure they would’ve helped with the baby. She even told that one lady that she could reconsider because her family was supportive and didn’t want her to abort. So by that logic, Abby did terminate for “convenience.” Don’t get me wrong, I’m pro choice and think people should abort a pregnancy for any reason they see fit. Whether it’s because they were raped, can’t afford the kid, motherhood would intervene with career or school, or simply because they don’t want to be pregnant. Doesn’t matter to me. I just think Abby is a hypocrite because she’s criticizing a woman for getting an abortion for the same reason she did.
@@allydef My thoughts are more “She was nothing more than a volunteer escort and her claims of witnessing dead fetuses or assisting with procedures are all lies.”
@@ECKohns Tbf there is evidence that she was a clinic director. She even won an award for how well she did her job. She definitely lied about seeing dead fetuses in “POC rooms” because those rooms don’t exist and their concept doesn’t make sense. Her assisting with an abortion procedure at all is a bit iffy since her friend (who is still pro choice and not a grifter) confirmed that she did help with one, which conflicts with what Planned Parenthood said. She absolutely lied about the “baby fighting for its life” thing though.
The same way child murder is considered medicine at all. And to think they made a pariah out of Dr. Kevorkian! At least his patients got born before they decided to end it all! Talk about being pro-choice!
When I went to get an abortion many years ago, the worst part of the whole experience was the people outside yelling filthy things at me (at that time hopelessly addicted to opioids) and my (then) abusive boyfriend. I still can’t figure out how yelling insults at vulnerable people in bad situations is a loving, Christian duty. It’s not a solution, it didn’t help anything - but you could totally tell they were enjoying themselves calling me names and reminding me that hell awaits. By the by, after the abortion I got rid of the guy, got off drugs, and got my act together - these days I’m happily married to a good man and we’ve got a bunch of kids and dogs and cats. My life is full of love. Don’t ever let someone force you into carrying a pregnancy to term if you don’t feel safe - if it feels wrong, follow your gut and try again when you’re ready.
I'm so sorry you went through all that. Some people forget that just because they believe in a purpose they find noble, it doesn't mean it justifies being a bully. (And as a Christian, I want to apologize for those of us that frankly suck, and choose to foster hatred). Anyway, I'm really happy that your life is going better now. Your family sounds awesome, and I'm happy that they're loving and good to you :)
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, it is really hypocritical how they act, but congratulations to you for how you brought yourself out of that situation.
You could've done all that without the abortion, and how is it wrong what they are doing. They have a right to be against murder and evil murder corporations.
The fact that they think calling abortion expensive is any kind of argument when, you know, the other option is PAYING FOR A WHOLE CHILD is so fucking ridiculous it’s ASTOUNDING
You know adoption is a thing... right? Those aren't the only two options. Adoption, abstinence, and prevention are all much cheaper than either of those.
@@drawingdragon Yeah except orphanages already are overfilled und underfunded. "Uhm, have you considered to force the child into a life of poverty and suffering, sweatty💅" really isn't an argument. Plus a pregnancy is potentionally lethal. But eh, who cares about women, right?
@@drawingdragon Oh yes let me put my child in a place that is know for abusing kids and are throw to the streets when they complete 18, truly what a great parent I'm to giving my kid to such place
when pro lifers shut down a planned parenthood in a city I used to live in, thousands of local women lost access to prenatal care that helped many of them carry healthy wanted pregnancies to term more safely. Planned Parenthood's abortion services make up like less than 10% of their total expenditures, they do so much for cancer screening, STD testing and treatment, prenatal care, and healthcare for communities. Showing it as like 99% abortion services is beyond absurd, many pregnant people who come into clinics are there to receive ultrasounds and check ups and they're still harassed and abused by protesters.
exactly, in India we don't have a thing like planned parenthood so idk much about what is done there, but pro-lifers make it seem like it's just an abortion factory, which i believe will be a very bad use of resources.
From what I've learned, it did happen ONCE, and yes, there were prison sentences, and the clinic involved was actually worse than what's shown in this movie even though they basically stole details of that case for this abortion of a propaganda piece.
I'm angry for 2 reasons: For one: This movie is cringy, misguided and true propaganda. And two: You made me nearly choke to death with that "death star for fetuses" line 😂 Fucking BRILLIANT
Yeah, same as the Jim Caviesel movie, about child trafficking. The guy they claimed it was a true story about, was proven to have lied about his place in Homeland Security, as well as the actual saving of anyone. The actual story, was about an adult woman, who was just a prostitute, at a young age, and he took her out of the country illegally. He also screwed up actual operations, that were trying to bring down a bigger trafficking organization. Never believe _any_ “based on true events” or “based on a true story” or especially “based on real people and real events, with some characters and situations changed for dramatization. Names and places have been changed to protect the people.” 🤣
It isn't propaganda if it showcases the good and bad of both sides...there are pro choicers that care about women's lives and right to bodily autonomy AND abortionists that care about the money and say that women's regret is right-wing propaganda and ignoring women dying from the procedure. AND pro-lifers that offer women other options and ones that harass women and take lives of women that provide abortions. It doesn't demonize Abby or the other workers other than the boss.
While they were at it they might as well have said "Of course the aborted fetuses still serve a purpose, we dedicate them to our lord Baphomet", since they were so dedicated to the bit.
Yeah but pro lifers don't care which is why they should just be ignored in their entirety at this point they won't listen to reason we should just get these new abortion laws overturned and kept from being implemented again and just let them bitch and moan
I had a pregnancy scare when my ex raped me when I was 19, (luckly I wasn't pregnant) and was so scared to get a abortion due to I saw a video on facebook that showed them ripping a baby in the womb apart, I had no way to care for the baby either :/ Since abortions wasn't really talked about in sex ed. So yeah... things like this harms.
@@AWasteOfYourTime8205There is literally no such thing as “old enough.” You will never be old enough to defend yourself against someone stronger, for example. If you want to be absurd, make a minimally plausible comment.
Ironically, to get past copyright in this video, CJ had to abort the footage. The crying was already pretty funny, but the splits across several CRT TVs were beautiful.
As someone who used to work at Planned Parenthood: -Small clinic do specific days of surgical abortions (its the patients choice which one they want unless unfortunately they are too far along) -It doesn't matter how far along a patient it is, the price is the same. Literally had a person who was in charge in finding funds for the procedures -We check POC in the moment to make sure everything is accounted for to make sure the patients are taken care of -We pulled all patients back alone for first for any appointment type to ask ipv (interpersonal violence questions). So a patient wasn't pressured into anything they don't want to -My facility manager worked her ass off to make our recovery room comfortable -We were always training to be up to date on comfort, care, and knowledge -We always made sure the patients had a follow up plan and details on what to expect and when to call if you have a problem. These appointments go from 2-6 hours depending on what we do and full education -We are a nonprofit, medical clinic. We abide by all medical and HIPPA laws -We NEVER interact with protestors. We are there for the patients. Period.
I applaud your work, I admire your courage, and I feel like a jerk for laughing at the way you ended that list. Because abortion brings about periods faster than pregnancy does. ... I'll show myself out.
Exactly. I feel like abortion is a right. It’s something nobody shouldn’t be able to get. Abortion clinics are super safe and do everything they can to make sure it’s what the person really wants, and that they won’t regret it
Regardless of your personal beliefs on this issue, one thing we should all agree on is that if CynicalReviews is talking about it, it's going to be objective trash. *Addendum* Thanks for the likes, I was not expecting to get this many. It's so nice when everyone can find common-ground on a topic, I just wish this happened way more often.
I feel like I'd be way more offended by this shit if I _were_ opposed to the subject, since it would make my own side look stupid and leave observers in a position where they'd be far less likely to listen if I were to present a genuine and rational argument. It's like how InfoWars made it impossible to effectively criticise the Obama administration because the uninformed masses just assume you're talking about interdimensional vampire lizards from space rather than big money in Washington and corporate warmongering in the middle east.
@@DistractedGlobeGuyyou've nailed it. It sucks when the extreme nut jobs make your side (either side) look ridiculous. I want to be able to criticize politicians, even the ones I voted for, without being ignored because it's assumed I'm delusional.
as someone who actually had an abortion, and dont regret it, but- they asked me if I were sure, and offered resources in case i DID want to keep the baby. We did an ultrasound and they let me keep 2-3 copies of what they looked like, lol they didnt “refuse” to let me see the fetus, they just let me make the final decision after showing me. No pressure in either direction, it was just part of the process. Completely painless other than being slightly sore. And told not to strain myself. Which I worked out pretty heavy despite that, so I wound up having minor bleeding as a result. For me personally, no lasting physical drawbacks. It would have been dangerous for me for several reasons to go through with pregnancy more so than a quick, painless procedure
yes I feel bad for people who want to have kids and just find it virtually impossible :( its great medicine has started to improve so much but even then theres the financial side of thing and it's still a long process having kids in other ways @@AWasteOfYourTime8205
The claim that they won't allow you to look at the ultrasound is so silly because it is actually required by law that you look at the ultrasound in several US states lol Like they literally will not give you an abortion if you do not look at the ultrasound while they describe it in detail to you
The idea of the law is that if you force the woman to look at a picture of her Little Bobby Fetus, it'll jump-start the maternal instincts and she will change her mind at the last moment. I wonder if it ever actually worked.
@@vylbird8014 That is grossly manipulative... Taking a look, sure. But with the intention to guilt trip them into not performing the procedure? Disgusting.
Whenever I see something like that, I remember a girl from my school that volunteered to hold anti-abortion presentations, and then had abortion herself. I don't think she was a hypocrite, she stopped her pro-life activism after it. Something about sawing off the branch you're sitting on comes to mind.
The Holocaust comparison REALLY pisses me off for two reasons. 1: I'm Jewish, and the attempted systematic extermination of my people shouldn't be used as a talking point for forced-birthers. Fetuses cannot survive outside the womb, they aren't people imo. Holocaust victims were independent, thinking, feeling human beings who were slaughtered due to their ethnicity. The comparison is insulting. 2: One of the often overlooked heroes of the Holocaust is Dr. Gisella Perl. She was an Hungarian Jewish gynecologist who was imprisoned in Auschwitz and later Bergen-Belsen. Because of her medical background, she was forced to assist Josef Mengele, the monster who experimented on prisoners. Mengele had a particular obsession with pregnant women. When Perl realised what Mengele was doing to these women and children, she swore that there would never be a pregnant woman in Auschwitz again. She performed hundreds of abortions at night, in secret, and with no proper medical tools in order to keep these women away from Mengele and the other Nazis (who liked to beat pregnant women to death or throw them into crematoriums alive). It was tragic, since some of these women did probably want their babies, but Perl knew that being pregnant would lead to the horrific deaths of two lives, so she resolved to save the one life she could. After the camps were liberated, Perl looked for her family, and found out her husband, son, parents, and extended family were all dead, and her daughter was missing. She tried to kill herself but failed. She eventually went to he U.S as a speaker about the Holocaust, wrote a book about her experience, and started practicing medicine again in New York City, where she delivered thousands of babies. Before she entered the delivery room, Dr. Perl would always say, "G-d, you owe me a life, a living baby." Perl eventually found out her daughter was alive in Israel and moved there to be with her. Apparently, some Jewish women in Israel and in other places recognized her, and they thanked her for saving their lives. Abortion not only saved the lives of Holocaust victims, it saved them from sadistic torture at the hands of one of humanity's worst monsters. So I hope I don't have to explain why using the Holocaust as some "gotcha" against abortion is beyond horrible. Fuck this movie, fuck forced-birthers, and fuck every single asshole who uses my people's worst massacre as a talking point.
Fr, and also, imagine if I was pregnant by rape, and if I would have a high chance of dying. And I would have to die for a child that I never wanted, and that child would probably grow up in foster care or something and would know the truth, and these idiots are going off saying that abortion is murder, I cannot with people! And comparing it to the holocaust is absurd, these are clumps of cells that have the potential to be people, not people!
Thank you for sharing this. Books about the holocaust are being banned in many states including the one where I live. My high-school English teacher had a curriculum centered around the holocaust. Every book we read was about the holocaust mostly from survivors. We never read about this doctor! I wish we had. I hate that my younger cousins are going to be attending schools that limit their education and try to ignore history.
25:08 - Hell, I'm pro choice myself precisely BECAUSE I know someone who was pressured to abort. Pro choice means pro CHOICE; regardless of what the choice ends up being, if it's a sound decision made without duress, I'm behind that all the way.
The pro-life side does tend to infantalise women. Their stance isn't hard to understand though: Just realise that in their mind, no women can *ever* freely choose abortion. Such a decision is the antithesis of womanhood. Literally unthinkable. So any women who does make that choice, obviously didn't: She must have been coerced into it by a manipulative father, or brainwashed by feminist propaganda, or forced in to it by her father. So by denying her the choice, they aren't really denying her the choice: They are just making sure that she does what she would surely have done anyway, were she not brainwashed.
@@ChaffyExpert mf they don't have a choice; they don't even have a proper brain or heartbeat! They're not going "mama.. mamaa.... eplase dont abort me... pleading emoji...", they don't even know they're in a woman (and if they did, they wouldn't know who she is) because they don't have the brain/power to recognize that they're even ""alive""
@@ChaffyExpertAn unborn baby who has no feelings or the will to live is less important than the life of an already living human who has experiences, emotions and dreams that will be interrupted if they are forced to have a child.
I've gone to planned parenthood for: Cancer screenings STD tests Help with reproductive heath (because mine is defective) My clinic shut down from prolifers a few years ago and I don't even think they did abortions.
@@drunkenhobo8020 just looked at their website. There is nothing like that. Or maybe they do it in ~secret~. uuuh, scary. No, but seriously, stop lying
As someone who grew up in a religious family, this is a good example of how they influence by fear. As a little kid i was even terrified of the word "athiest." Like anyone who didnt believe in jesus was baisically a devil worshipper. They rely on misinformation and make people afraid of the non believers from a young age so they grow up to be adults like this. Of course its important to recognize many people are christians and live in the real world, and are genuinely good people who dont fall for it, but its just so absurd how this movie showcases how millions of people actually think.
As someone who has had an abortion at Planned parenthood I can tell you that 32:55 is a complete lie. They tell you upfront that an abortion is $600. They don't wait until the ultrasound. In fact the ultrasound is usually optional. In my state of Missouri though, it was required by law at the time for them to preform and show you the ultrasound. The price is also negotiable. I paid $45 for mine because I was deeply impoverished and qualified for a charity to cover most of my fees. In addition they were not at all pushy about abortions. They explained all my options and even gave me information to groups that could help me if I kept the baby, groups that offered things like housing and adoption assistance. Its very disappointing that many people only know PP for abortions when they do so much more. The abortion was the first time I went there but since then I've been going to them for everything from birth control to endometriosis treatment.
They still do abortions which is evil and wrong and makes them wrong too. A corporation that kills thousands with unsafe work environments wouldn't be fine because they give to charity.
@@budokanmetal4999 i know youre a troll and also this is none of your business anyway, but I'll give you a few reasons as to why someone might choose to have an abortion rather than go through pregancy and give it up for adoption: 1. Pregancy sucks. It is uncomfortable, stops people from working, is a finantial burden, and sometimes physically changed someone for the rest of their lives in a way they dont want. Wanting to be pregnant makes these symptoms okay, since it is your choice and a risk and sacrifice you are willing to make, but if you dont want to be pregnant, these symptoms are not worth it. 2. Giving birth is dangerous. America has one of the highest mortality rates for women giving birth in any wealthy country. Giving birth can also cause permanent vaginal damage and c-sections are common. Theyre risky and leave permanent scars since theyre a surgery. 3. Giving birth is expensive. The average cost of giving birth in an american hospital is $10,000. Idk what else to say, a lot of people, especially poor people, cannot affort to give birth, especially to a child they dont even plan on taking care of themselves. 4. Emotional attachment to the child after giving birth as well as postpartum depression. Giving birth and then immediately giving up your child is traumatizing. A lot of people get abortions because they cannot afford to have children, as raising a child for 18 years costs an absurd amount of money, something like $100,00. If you know you are going to give up the baby, the entire process of being pregant and giving birth are all the more painful. 5. Foster and adoption system in america is very very very bad. Idk if i need to elaborate on this, but it's extremely bad. There have been studies on it, go read them if you want to be sad, i guess. 6. Eptopic pregancies and any other pregnancy that could kill the mother and/or baby. Giving birth is already dangerous, let alone if you have a condition that makes it multitudes MORE dangerous. My point is that even thinking or using empathy for a single minute could bring you to literally any conclusion that isnt asking this woman a weird, invasive, and accusatory question. Basically, fuck off.
My parents took the family to watch this movie in theaters (I was barely a teenager) and I remember it being horrific and left that theater filled with the propaganda it was pushing. My parents even asked us what we thought about abortion after it, I didn’t even know what abortion was. This is disgusting and knowing what I know now I hate that my parents pushed that onto my impressionable mind
With all of the...less than subtle insinuations in that film, I somehow doubt that it was a coincidence that the woman who was so casual about getting an abortion despite having no 'excuse' for it, was played by a black woman.
Oh wow. My parents dragged us to this when it came out. As some kind of “sticking it to the progressive left”. Watching this review is honestly a lot more healing than I was expecting. Knowing it’s propoganda vs seeing it actively debunked, it’s doing a lot, thank you!
THANK YOU for pointing out how much more dangerous pregnancy and childbirth are than abortion!!! I hate that this part is so often neglected by anti-choice folks. Pregnancy isn't a health neutral condition. Sure adoption is an alternative to get out of parenthood, but then you still have to go through pregnancy and birth, which DOES carry health risks, can be deeply traumatic, and will often permanently alter the body.
@@AutismGaming489 No, but I'm not sure what you're referring to. What should be "the only case" and why does that make sense? I almost thought you may have accidentally responded to me when you meant to respond to someone else because I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.
@@AutismGaming489 dammit how am i supposed to make fun of you when you already have autism in your username. Im also an autist but who will believe my username over yours??? this is a conundrum
@skootergirl22 and then probably die trying, hence the need for legal safe abortions. But these so called pro lifers typical response is these women "deserve to die on the slab" or something along those lines
The best part of this movie is that they couldn't even honestly depict her appearance. Pure flix or whatever they're name is specifically chose an extra thin woman again, even though it's depicting a real person famous to the target audience who was never that thin
Yep! Considering that the average fundagelical is more likely to be on the zaftig side at least, it honestly says several sad things about Christian media (in this case) that they won't even cast people who look like their average viewer, and their average viewer probably prefers it this way! (But, the same goes for the mainstream secular media, too, of course.)
yeah not to be mean or anything, but it's laughable how they got a different woman in terms to appearance to portray her, and strange how no one notices that detail. Oh well I guess pretty women are good for proving your point especially for shitty ones
I worked at a movie theater when this came out and the amount of grandmothers coming out of the theater with giant smiles on their faces and personally thanking us for showing this movie was absolutely jarring and disturbing. The rise of films like this from 2018 and 2019 was a big reason that job stopped being fun.
Just woke up so I had a bad taste in my mouth...then I saw that clip where she is saying how police should be more careful around her half-black son purely because of his race, now I have an even worse taste.
As a Christian who believes that life starts at conception; I prefer to see women going to regulated professionals for these procedures, then to attempt it themselves, or go to some back ally "doctor". The choice is not mine to make, nor is the judgement.
I am glad that there are women like you. My great grandmother (roman catholic) tried to have an abortion around the 1920's. She had 10 living kids and a husband who dipped for a younger woman. The depression was looming, and she had to make a choice. She died and left 10 kids to be raised by any family member willing to stick their necks out which unfortunately we didn't have many at that time. Some did manage to scrape by as farm hands, but their history was lost. We know of my great grandmother, and she told the story of her mother and the 3 siblings she did manage to keep tabs on. I know that 1920's abortion care is not on the same par as today in terms of safety, but I think it can't be ignored that women will make these choices with or without safe access. At least with safe access we can save some of the lives that would otherwise be lost.
@@tearainey1 I am a man, but I thank you for sharing your family story. I am sorry that your great grandmother had to go through such a difficult time.
@@lord_ozymandias These people are on TikTok and get buried under a sea of degeneracy. I've only seen them when other people are commenting over them. They were the topic during the Roe v Wade thing.
A story I have from entering an abortion clinic, it was calm and quiet inside, everyone was gentle and very soft spoken since no one WANTS to be there. Upon entering (I entered twice) we had a lady who stood between us and protestors with an umbrella who made sure we were okay before showing us through. A traumatic experience with supportive and understanding professionals. I would never wish needing to have an abortion upon anyone but the fact that it's an option is so extremely necessary. (I don't wanna discuss these things further then throwing down a vague part of my experience and general opinion, so I'm not gonna reply if anyone wants to fight lol)
10:29 Women who lend their woumbs for other couples are voluntaried... does... does she not know that? Does she think the two evil gay men strapped a pregnant woman in a hospital bed and forced her to give them her child? Also it is pretty common in straight couples where the woman can't get pregnant for X reasons but they don't want to adopt.
Most surrogate mothers do it because poverty forces them. Why isn't adoption an option? Pregnancy Prostitution seems like a vanity project for narcicisstic wannabe parents. And these people shouldn't have children.
29:57 I burst out laughing every time the villain of this movie has her little rant about how "abortion is our fries and soda", and again when she threatens the protagonist at 33:48. She's such a walking, talking strawman character for conservative Christians to hate on, and it's hilarious.
Honestly i'm probably about as close to a pro-choice strawman as you can get, and I _hate_ abortions. I think preventing them is important. It's just that we shouldn't prevent them with public shaming and legal restrictions, we should prevent them with increased access to high quality education, birth control, pregnancy care and childcare.
@@actualgoblin Unfortunately the right doesn't care about children except in a pedophilic way. They only see women as subservient breeding farms, so I think abortion is going to have to stay for a loooong time
@@hamishstewart5324he probably knows already. I know from experience, children-even very young ones-know when their parents hate them. They don't admit it because they're scared of what their parents will do to them if word gets out. But the kids, sadly, know.
I love how she claims to be pro-life while just admiting that she sees the life of one of her own children as inherently less valuable than another one of her children simply due to the color of their skin.
@@tsubakiofmelancholy6297 No, it's not. When you stop a white guy in a red shirt and khaki pants on the street because that fits the profile of the person who just robbed a liquor store a block away, that's not you being racist against white people, that's you profiling. Which is part of your job as a police officer.
Speaking of that ending of God's Not Dead, he was actually starting to have a change of heart and was going back to apologize to his girlfriend, but he ended up dying anyway. Also, that was very clearly a hit and run since it perfectly ran him over without swerving or anything, and it drove away. But nobody at the site gave a shit about the driver.
Yeah pretty sure he'd have preferred to live longer and nobody in the film addressed the hit and run? I like to think about an imaginary spin off where the Josh Wheaton kid was a suspect in the hit and run due to their disputes over God during lessons 😂
That would’ve been a much better ending if he lived. He realized how harsh he was to his girlfriend and went to make it up to her. Maybe they didn’t have to get back together right away, but them talking things over and being happy in each other’s presence would’ve been so sweet. But no he’s an atheist and atheists are “evil” so the writers wanted to get rid of him, but not before he was made to convert before he died.
The first abortion scene is so weird. It's 13 weeks, so it wouldn't even be moving to begin with. A fetus starts kicking and moving around 20 weeks, and if it's needed to be delivered at 23 weeks or earlier, it won't survive. Cause well, nothing developed enough for it to survive. Even babies born around 28-30 weeks are going to need a lot of medical intervention in order to have a chance to survive. So 13 week fetus wouldn't even be able to "struggle to survive" cause it wouldn't be aware of what's happening
This topic is one that really pisses me off. If you don't want an abortion, dont get an abortion. Simple. Just don't stand in the way of someone making a decision in regards to their own life, especially one which could affect the rest of their life. I've never wanted kids, I'd be an absolutely awful mother but I'd never put anyone down for wanting kids. I like kids, just not for extended periods of time. Honestly, the people who are super "anti-kid" annoy the heck out of me as they're so damn judgemental a lot of the time.
This is so accurate. There is even more to it, some women want a baby but due to issues during pregnancy have to abort, no one really talks about the mental aspect of it. It really breaks a person.
I get what you mean, I’m firmly on the “no kids” side myself, but I am also Pro-Choice, because no one but the woman carrying the pregnancy should have any say in what happens. Which is why the whole “banning abortion” thing in America just baffled me, what do they think will happen? That all the unwanted pregnancies will be brought to term, their parents will magically come together, love them, create a nuclear family and live the American dream? Hell no it won’t! Unless you were one of the two parties involved you have sweet FA to do with that pregnancy and should therefore GTFO out the debate! As you said, if you don’t want one don’t have one! But don’t judge those who do 😒😒😒
It's unfortunately not that simple "If you don't like abortion, don't get an abortion" Is usually responded to with "If you don't like murder, don't murder someone"
I was forced to watch this, and, even as an older teen, I was greatly affected by the movie. I TRULY thought that the abortion scene was real, with the doctors being rough on the patient, the crude suction sounds (they got me bad for some reason), and the bad CGI "baby" fighting for its life in the womb. After watching the movie, I admit I turned pro-life for a little while, believing abortions to be malicious and dangerous both for the woman and the unborn "baby." Now I am an adult, watching this video with a clear mind. I'm not being forced to watch it with people who react like its all true. Now I am watching with a critic who can call all the bullshit out when I can't. I can tell when CGI is being used (though admittedly the scene still makes me sick to my stomach because I'm just weak to that stuff 😭). To any child/adult who was forced to watch this movie, I am sorry you had to put up with this, whether it be the cringey acting, or the bloody scenes.
how come people who exclusively focus on what upsets them can never write realistic dialogue or form coherent thoughts? It it that there's no room left in their heads for logic?
Speaking from experience that’s what happens when you dive deep into religious fundamentalism as it’s basically mostly a black and white mentality that doesn’t allow much imagination (especially if that imagination goes against what the church community teaches)
Nice to see you haven’t collapsed and entered a lifetime long coma after binging the atrocity Mindy Kaling dares to call “Velma”. Thanks for the content👍
HBO Max announced S2 for Velma shortly after the last episode of S1. Some people speculated that HBO ordered 20 episodes and it got split into 2 seasons. With how HBO killed Scooby Do thru Velma and Clone High (s2 sucked), im wondering wtf is going on at these pitch meetings.
"The passcode spells baby." 2229 would actually spell AAAW. BABY would be 22,2,22,999. And if it's 'pressing numbers associated with the letters to remember it' it could just as easily be ABBY. And 2229 isn't even difficult to remember. This annoys me more than it should!
i was 15, and a r@pe victim. i couldn't get an abortion and was not allowed to, even though i was R@PED and had absolutely no intent of getting pregnant. i almost died giving birth. my child is with another family now, and i do not know who, because i could not care for her. my r@pist only got 4 years in jail.
I am so sorry that you endured that. One could not even begin to imagine. You are a fighter and a survivor. You are a warrior. I hope that you find some healing.
@fieldm08 The peaceful pro lifers was definitely the worst part. Just simply being more polite about your message doesn't make it any less incorrect especially if you're using the same incorrect info the violent pro lifers were using.
@@MutatedPercent So does that mean violent pro-abortionists are just as right as peaceful ones? Arguibly, i'd say they are even MORE in the right, cuz they at least have initiative to get the message across.
“If you’re going to make a case, you should make it well, and we should all have the integrity to reject something this bad even if it supports our point of view” is the best advice. However, I don’t think most humans can follow it.
@@darth_autismo I was raised in a fundamentalist environment and then I educated myself about the issue from less biased sources. Plus I also grew up and kinda realized that if this choice was taken away, more people would die.
@@RinitaChanThat's not true, the only reason people die when abortions are banned is because leftist doctors don't care if someone dies in order to push their agenda and purposefully let it happen knowing full well the law is. Also more People die from abortions its just that pro choice people don't consider fetuses people. Like literally every genocider considers the people they kill to not be people.
When i see anti's and can stomach dealing with them, i always ask, "What do you actually DO to help women and girls with crisis pregnancies?" Do you have a disowned pregnant 16-year old living with you? Do you pay for someone's Prenatal visits? Give somebody a lift to the hospital? Take someone to Prenatal yoga/class/ breastfeeding class? Supply diapers, formula? What do you do that will ACTUALLY HELP?
Try to give them health and safe sex advice also tell them not to whore themselves out to random people and to respect themselves more. Then they say: You never tried to help me.
@@popneppopnep4357yeah big shock calling women whores and showing them no respect make them not want to listen to ur advice anymore. have u ever gone outside
absolutely crazy that women, who already exist as living human beings, are supposed to sacrifice everything and give up on their own lives the moment they become pregnant no matter what the circumstances. I'm glad you were able to access one, anyway
I find it hilarious how a lot of these types of films genuinely just feel like a parody of themselves most of the time😅 Amazing video Also i find it hilarious that so many ways right wing Christian groups get annoyed at people for not automatically converting while also acusing LGBTQ+ people/ other religions of being brain washers😂
@@noahc2078 Christian ideologies are primarily being placed in schools, such as how in a lot of states evolution isn't being taught at all because of Christian parents complaining
I want to thank planned parenthood for always being there when i needed my birth control and yearly exams. I got them all for free because i didnt have any money at the time. Thank you so much! I will continue to support them! ❤
My OBGYN dropped by insurance while I was pregnant so they could only see me through to my 6 week health check. Planned Parenthood was there to give me an affordable IUD when I was in between health care providers. The protesters didn't know what to make of a woman with a newborn walking into the building... probably wondering if I was going in for a 50 week abortion 🙄
I also want to thank planned parenthood for my free birth control as a broke college kid. Those pills prevented me from getting preggo and needing an abortion.
Thank you to planned parenthood for attempting to help me manage my abortion with empathy, and holding my hand and crying with me when state law got in the way and I had to be redirected to someplace else.
I met an evangelical once, she was insufferable and called everything demonic. It was absolutely hilarious when I turned on prince of Egypt only for her to call it demonic. 😂🤦🏼♂️ So I cracked open a bible and showed her that it was based on a biblical story; she was red-faced and pissed.
My dads family are evangelical. They think Harry Potter is demonic because it uses magic, but they love Lord of the Rings? I mean, there are literal wizards and mythical creatures in that movie???
I'm happy Cynical can talk about this maturely. And honestly deserves credit for all that research showing the timeframes that don't match up and how her excuses became more and more convoluted and disconnected to reality. I know even friends of friends in his group or of podcasts he's been on have had some unhinged opinions on this topic (randomly checked out their channel to see what content they make to tune into a rant saying it's baby murder) and I start losing faith some of the reviewer channels are becoming more diluted into "I'm actually mad about this more because I hate lefties" than any complex idea about film or game quality and being realistic and fair in my opinion Like you know the starfield pronouns rant thing that's been going on.
The Starfield pronouns thing is especially ridiculous to me. Like, tell me you've never played a Bethesda game before without telling me you've never played a Bethesda game before.
@@princeapoopoo5787 I mean for me it's even weirder because it's a space setting. Maybe I'd understand thinking its out of place in a fantasy setting of unwashed masses with little education. But in Space settings it makes so much sense to have that option as humanity I'd going to be well past many traditions and parts of life that are normal now. Space settings are naturally going to be far more disconnected from petty stuff like that. These are likely the same people mad about a bathroom being changed in dead space to fit reality more.
They freak out when they find out they aren't just "the evil abortion place" when they are really just a clinic that helps people with resources and reproductive healthcare as well as hrt and gender identity health care
I prefer the term ‘pro-birth’ because they truly don’t care about the child after it’s born for the most part, nor do they seem ‘pro-life’ about the afab people who have their bodies used as incubators for 9 months (not of their own will, I mean. Not those who choose to become parents)
@@AutismGaming489also, that’s hardly the point. The point is that they’re pro birth - not pro life. They don’t care what happens to someone after they’re born as long as they’re born. That’s not pro life.
That’s why they’re pro birthers, breeders. 9 million babies are born all the time. Who cares about one Fetus that is aborted? Why obsess over a stranger and their body, they get to choose if that Fetus gets to use their body and resources or not. Also they don’t cry about babies who starve to death in extreme poverty countries or the orphanages or homelessness . They don’t donate, offer to pay for housing, food, clothes, medical things baby necessities, etc etc especially for 18 years
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CynicalReviews at it again with a 10/10 banger
When I was a kid, I had a relative who gave birth in the 6th month & sadly the child didn't survive long because their organs weren't fully developed. Afterwards, my relative found out she had a blood issue that she took medication for & was able to have another child later. Ever since then, my thoughts on being "pro-life" vs. "pro-choice" have always been abortion is fine in the 1st & 2nd trimesters since the child can't survive outside the womb on their own, but 3rd trimester it depends on if the birth will effect the life of the mother.
"Abortion is our fries and soda."
*I love when Cynical Reviews said "It's abortin' time!" and aborted all over the movie. Truly one of the abortions of all time.*
I laughed out loud when they showed the clinic employees throwing her baby shower and framing it as this horribly insensitive thing. How dare those evil monsters... *checks notes* support a mother to be and celebrate her upcoming birth.
- Does 1930s gangster voice. - Because, see, it makes them hypocritical, see? Because see, you can only not abort any fetus (fetuses=babies, see) or be happy for any baby, see? Which means, see it is bad and they're bad, see? SEE?!
because by their logic anyone who supports safe abortion actively hates pregnant ppl and just children in general.
Completely unrelated: I love the phrase "checks notes". It implies that the notion is so preposterous that the brain refuses to commit it to long term memory, presumably out of self defence, and so you need to carry a slip with a reminder lest you forget it.
@@vitorafmonteiro The funny voice made this so much better, thank you for making me laugh in the wake of this garbage movie :)
@@Shenaldrac Yw, maybe I've been watching too much Looney Tunes, but when I come across something this depressing I need a laugh. See?! :D
The fact that this company went on to copyright claim every single second of film used in this review tells you all you need to know about how willing they are to listen to dissenting opinions. The fact CJ managed to upload it anyway tells you how much of an alpha chad he is.
A sign of true strength! 👏
CJ is a legend!
Funny how the “we’re being SILENCED!!” crowd are so fond of censorship.
CJ:🗿🍷🇬🇧
This is Derek Savage levels of pettiness right here.
As soon as you said "Pureflix" I audibly groaned. As a Christian myself, I hate absolutely everything they put out with a passion.
Always good to hear from Christians with some taste 😛
Yeah they're just.... so awful
Also a Christian here and I agree with you, all of the films they release suck and there laughably dumb at best
It just seems like they go so hard to make those with different views seem comically evil. Personally, I don't think abortions should be used as a form of birth control and shouldn't be performed after a certain period, unless it's for medical reasons. But that doesn't mean that I think abortions shouldn't be available. It's up to the individual to make that choice for themselves and I'm not going to harass anyone for making a choice that I may not agree with. I wish we all could stop judging each other as a group and start taking people and scenarios on an individual, case by case basis. Life isn't black and white, there are many shades of gray. I just try to treat everyone with respect, kindness and grace. Unless I'm driving, but I am working on having more patience behind the wheel! 🤣❤️
SAME
“We only do abortions on Saturday “ the writers really pulled a mean girls “WE ONLY WEAR PINK ON WEDNESDAYS”
We only serve cooked fetuses with BBQ sauce.
I had the exact same thought omg they made it sound like a weekend special
Stop trying to make "abortions are our fries and soda" happen. It's not going to happen!
No abortions for the Jews then
That's actually not too far off from the truth. The PP clinic I worked at scheduled all their abortions for Wednesdays so that they could have the appropriate staff in once a week. Now there were people that came in for other things, but the vast majority of the clinic time was spent on abortions that day. And the protesters did figure it out and show up on those days.
You've heard of "on wensdays we wear pink" now get ready for "on Saturdays we get abortions"
Going out this Saturday with the girlies to get our matching abortions!! 🥰💞🎉
Those are the vibes it gives me lmao
Girl: "Hey girls, guess what day it is! ABORTION SATURDAY!"
Other girls: "YAAAAAAAAY!"
[California Gurls starts playing]
It’s true. Me and the girls book weekly saturday abortions as a fun bonding activity 😂
Thank you I am adding this to the dialogue tree as we speak
get in loser we're going to abort
"We only do abortions on the day that most people who might want to protest abortions have off work - AND THEY KNOW THAT."
Sunday would have been too on the nose, obv
@@warlordofbritannia But it would've been smarter, because all of the protesters would be at church
@@warlordofbritannia Planned Parenthood is closed on Sundays, or at least my local one is so that's a good irl reason as to why not Sunday, though I doubt they would put even the barest amount of effort to research something like that.
The one I worked at did them on Wednesdays, but I don't think it stopped anyone from showing up to protest......
@@deen7530
Now I’m imagining a priest giving Mass…in front of an office building 😂
I’m related to the person that wrote this book. She’s one of my cousins. She’s had abortions but believes others shouldn’t be allowed to make that decision for themselves… My aunt tried to get me to watch this movie when I was visiting. I declined.
You’re actually related to Abby Johnson? That’s gotta be crazy.
dear god. i wish you luck
When I was visiting my extended family in Texas, my Aunt wanted me to watch this movie. She was like “it’s really dark but has a good message” I watched it on my own later. The movie is really dumb. And is full of misinformation. I still can’t comprehend how she’s had abortions and is now like “no one can make this choice for themselves because of my personal experience and beliefs”
@@hanners4895 It's the whole 'only my abortion is justified' thing. 'Everyone else got their abortion because they're wh*res and sl*ts' - it's an arrogant, judgmental line of thinking, not treating others with the same respect they want.
“The only moral abortion is my abortion” is a common saying
I occasionally end up with blood on my shoes working at the red cross drawing blood. What a weirdly unintentional benign scene for me and people in healthcare.
Bruh I WISH blood was all that ended up on my shoes.
I don't buy a pair of shoes without considering, "How easily can I wipe [bodily fluid] off of these?"
Exactly!!! It's the only purpose Crocs have around here.
Yeah sorry about that, I'm a bleeder. But it surprised me as much as you 😅
Hell I'm a dog groomer and sometimes I end up with blood all over me. Living creatures sometimes bleed.
Regardless of your personal beliefs, a band name like Pieces of Children would go hard and should definitely tour with bands like Dying Fetus, Butcher Babies, Infant Annihalator, etc
Infant annihikators my fave there
@@overlordpichu5577 They're a good deathcore band lmao
I know it's not child related but cattle decapitated is a pretty sick band name
@@mrseaweed88 Cattle Decapitation is an amazing band in general lol
@@Meeplord2017 fair point 😅
"Abortion is our fries and soda!" How could they expect ANYONE to take that line seriously?! 🤦🏽♀️
"You want some abortion with that burger?" 🤪🤪🤪
I know that line is trash... but there are people who are like that unironically.
I wonder how they'd react to that line tho. Lol.
"Would you like some salt on that fetus"
@@bonkers5451 You'll be surprised, and disapointed in how many abortions are what you'd consider valid. It's in the single digits percentile...
@@cameronroy2129 Satan, no! The fetus shrivels like a slug if you put salt on it. Is this your first day in the death cult?
They did not seriously try to use “How To Save a Life,” a song about how to save others in their struggles, and try to twist it to say “No no no. It’s about being anti-abortion.”
Reminds me of how right wingers try to use “We’re Not Gonna Take It” by Twisted Sister to support their views, when the singer himself said he stood against them.
"Born in the USA" is often played as a patriotism anthem, when it's about how returning vets from Vietnam faced major economic hardships while Americans give surface-level love and praise about the military rather than actually helping them.
In a similar vain, there's "Fortunate Son," which is often played up as a patriotic war song, when it's really an anti war song about how the narrator had the misfortune of being forced to go fight in the war and ends up traumatized by it, and about all the upper class kids his age who were able to avoid the draft due to their parent's money, something he didn't have the fortune of.
Tough shit. You tried to blacklist us from the entertainment industry, we are taking back your propaganda bashing us.
Paul Ryan being a fan of “Rage Against the Machine” while apparently unaware that he’s part of the machine being raged against.
I cannot believe she literally called her mixed-race son her "brown son" and said it was alright for police officers to profile him. Like...seriously? The poor child!
I hope the father got custody of her "brown son".
Here is a controversial opinion:
Being racist is worse than being pro choice
Someday she’ll be asking herself why her son doesn’t talk to her anymore
@@e-tean-son4146 And it is a controversial opinion that I fully agree with. It is a person literally devaluing a group (or groups) of people's lives vs. people who actually values the lives of those who need it (both mentally physically)
And it feels like she's straight up admitting that in the event of having multiple children of different skin tones, the whitest would be her golden child...either that or she just has no clue how most children end up the way they do, and thinks parental guidance does fuck all
Most late term abortions are extra tragic. They’re usually wanted fetuses that either have some horrific health defect or will kill the mother.
And most late term abortions happen after the fetus has developed pain receptors, so it feels it.
@@stuffynosepatrol and? All women who die in childbirth have developed pain receptors. Again, in a lot of these cases, the child is either heavily deformed and will languish in agony while slowly dying, or will their mother/both of them. Women shouldn’t have to slowly die just because the fetus can feel pain.
@@incineroar9933 my dude. I was agreeing with you and adding to your point. Stop being so defensive
Yeah, nobody has a late-term abortion because they just got distracted or suddenly "changed their mind" because they realized a kid was going to harsh their mellow.
@@stuffynosepatrol Maybe you just wasn't clear enough. Just a minor confusion, that's all.
Once, in my very late teens/early 20s, I had a job that didn't have health insurance. I had read somewhere that planned parenthood (in my town it was called "womens health center" but it was a planned parenthood) gave free womans healthcare (pap smears, gyn, etc.) I had a cyst on my ovary, for which I had went to the emergency room.
Anyway I went to this planned parenthood because I couldn't afford a private GYN. I, being young and having not read the news, was surprised to see a bunch of women standing outside and stopping people. One of the ladies stopped me and said "your mother wouldn't want you to do this. You look like a good girl, your mother loves you."
And I was like "my mom wouldn't want me to get a pap smear?" I was so confused. 😂 and the lady, also confused, was like "what?" And I was like "also, my mom is dead." And she was like "oh, I'm so sorry" and walked off.
I went to a PP in my early 20's for a birth control script because I also couldn't afford a private doctor. While I was in there and my boyfriend was in the waiting room waiting for me, somebody slashed one of his tires. We only noticed after we got back in the car to leave. We went back the next day to tell security what happened and ask if they had any CCTV footage of that angle (they didn't). I stayed in the car. My boyfriend walked out of the building alone, and one of the protesters yelled "save your baby!" at him. It was just so weird and asinine to be shouting that at a lone man.
Planned parenthood doesn’t have any free services. I tried to go there many times for services, and it was insane expensive. I ended up going to Christian pregnancy centers, everything was free. Oh and I’m an atheist so…
It blows my mind that you have to pay for basic health services in a developed country. That is incredibly messed up. Healthcare should be universal.
@@diaryofarealmom3264from what I've read it depends on the funding the clinic receives by the state/donors etc.
She walked away quickly so she wouldn’t have to actually start thinking and challenging her moronic beliefs
You've got to love how they show a 13 week old human fetus attempting to escape its demise when a human newborn would just lie there in its crib and do nothing but scream.
One of the worst downgrades in history
Newborn didn't come as described.. 0/10
Gotta spread that propaganda, right?
That is based on an actual recording of an abortion.
@@kalvinchester4068source and link?
My mom had a miscarriage about 15 years ago when I was 10. It was late miscarriage due to a fetal abnormality. She had to undergo a D&E (dilation & evacuation) which is a an abortion procedure. She put under anesthesia and only felt slight cramping and bled a little. This was a very wanted pregnancy. Even after having almost 3 kids my mom is still very pro choice. Since Roe V Wade was overturned having a miscarriage can be seen as an abortion because there is no way to prove that it was natural end to the pregnancy. Also in your medical records if you get a D&C or another similar procedure for a miscarriage it will be listed as an abortion.
On my medical records I had one abortion. Abortion is the medical definition. “Miscarriage” is a colloquial term, not medical. So I stop a lot of anti-choice people when I put out my file and show them “one abortion.” And they want to cry with me and ask me why I chose that. Lmao dummies. It was what you would call a miscarriage but you wanna pass laws that make me go to jail. And laws that kill women. And laws that punish doctors.
Momma Doctor Jones is really good for more info about this for anyone curious.
That’s not an abortion. If the baby is already dead, it is not an abortion.
Ilymation just made a video about this
@@tabathaalshalhoub1653 Yep. Even the medical textbooks I read as a teenager for my sexual education consistently referred to miscarriage as "spontaneous abortion" or "abortion."
Lol yes, 0.3% of abortions are due to a threat of miscarriage, that's why we need to enable aborting 99% of healthy kids 😂👍🏻
It's just SCIENCE, we fascists wouldn't get it
As infuriating as this movie is, your line:
"She brings her daughter to the clinic...you might be a little late on that one"
made me choke of laughter
Insert South Park joke about Cartman's mom
@@lixerium2529 I was about to say it
@@Studiocarre2 Abortion
is MURDER!
If you bother to make them, bother to raise them.
Fight not for supporting ABORTION, FIGHT against fornications.
BE NOT A MURDERERS NOR FORNICATORS!
KJV BIBLE:
Exodus 20:13 - Thou shalt not kill.
1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Abortion is the evil plan of masons, the depopulation of mankind. 500 000 000 souls, thats all their after.
You know what's even worse? They showed this movie at my school last year. I go to an italian catholic school and the principal decided to make the high school watch this movie. When it ended, the teachers left us alone to talk about the movie. We were all thinking the same thing. At one point a kid stood up and said "This movie is shit", we all started cheering at him.
Based students
There is hope for humanity 🙏👍
He deserve that clapping
The movie had the opposite effect
"We all started clapping" lol
Just in the interest of fairness, I'd like to see someone make a similar movie about the (very real) potential horrific outcomes of pregnancy and childbirth... both of which carry considerably more risk than abortion.
This 100%. They seem to forget that childbirth permanently alters a woman's body. I would argue it's one of the most dangerous things in the world.
Ironically, that movie would probably be banned before release due to conservative outrage.
They already did. It was called *Full House.*
@@notacatnt Pro-aborts seem to forget that abortion DESTROYS a human beings body..... That's way worse than 99.99+% of the side effects of pregnancy.
If a woman is so paranoid about her body being altered during pregnancy and would actually kill her unborn child over that paranoia (wow!) then she had better make sure there is ZERO percent chance of an unplanned pregnancy happening.
Considering the state of maternity care and the very real and very horrific lasting injuries a woman can be left with (I used to work for a law firm where birth injuries were a big part of their medical negligence work) it could be truly horrific! And that's before you even deal with the emotional trauma of a miscarriage or still birth - somethung these religious nuts don't give a single shit about when they're trying to ban these medical procedures.
This movie was supposed to show us how abortion is bad, but in the process it aborted itself.
Usually it's self evident that killing babies is bad. No movie required
I had to have an abortion when I was a child due to me being a r@pè victim, that abortion saved my life, I would have DIED. Without it, it makes me boil with rage when people act like that
I'm so sorry you went through that. I hope you're doing much better now.
I had abortion due to rape too and as somebody who was also victim of child abuse I never want to have kids. I was ready to kill myself of I didn't get the abortion. Abortion saves lives. Saved my life. It sucks but we are strong for choosing the right path.
@@darth_autismo I have been doing better thankfully, it was a while ago so my body has fully recovered, thanks for your kind words ♥
This is the exact reason why I dont get that there are people who are against abortion. Its just sickening knowing that there are alpt out there that got their lifes ruined because of it. Also shows why religion isn't of this time anymore
Didn't have that, but did have to have 3 D&CS because of miscarriages and tubular ligation because of an ectopic pregnancy. These are now outlawed in several states if you are still breathing. Abortion = Healthcare! Forced birth is barbaric and harmful!!!!
The whole bit about her son being profiled, screams "tell me that you are racist, without saying that you are racist"
I feel like that was a pretty straight up admission lmao
She admitted, openly, that she doesn't give a fuck about her "brown son" by referring to him that way and by saying he should know to be more careful, he should know to have his guard up, because people think he looks like a predator.
I have a sneaking suspicion the kid’s gonna drop all contact with his mother the second he turns 18.
nah she was saying she wase racist, and also that is ok and smart to be racist
@@hamishstewart5324 Good for him then.
In her youth, my mom escorted women to the doors of planned parenthood. She had animal blood thrown on her and was called a whore and a murderer while shielding other women with her body.
Tell your mom I think she's a cool lady and she did something good for others
prolifers not being vegan is the weirdest thing to me. animal blood? seriously?
Jesus Christ..
@@actualgoblinIt's like they're trying to recreate that one scene from Carrie. 💀
giga chad
My college film professor made us watch this shit, and said it leaned both ways on the political spectrum. I lost all respect for her after this movie.
So, if she were r@ped by a family member, she would keep a mutated fetus? I don't understand how dumb people even get teaching jobs
I wish I could have taken your class.
@@Attmaywhy
why would you want to watch that anyway, its not like its a filmmaking mastery with a flawed massage, its just bad. strange teacher
Where the hell did you go?
“B-but they could be the one to cure cancer!”
They won’t be able to even get past elementary school if people are not mentally or financially prepped to manage a child, guys
And that means we should just snuff out a human life? I really hope you appreciate that YOU got to live whilst you're saying innocent others shouldn't.
now go out there and tell everybody that your parents were properly prepped and stable enough for your taste and watch all actual parents laugh
@@blunderingfool i hope you had a good upbringing because most unwanted children don't. Giving women the choice of when to have a child benefits the child in the long run. No one should be born to suffer abuse and neglect.
Also...human life....a clump of cells is human life? Watch a documentary about how pregnancy works (there's a really cool one i watched as a child, is like Once Upon a Time... Life, it's awesome!)
@@blunderingfoolHuman life? Given you appear to be British I'm stunned at how poor your sex education is or knowledge of UK law; I learned this stuff in a religious primary school so you have no excuses.
Induced Abortion is illegal over approx. 24 weeks of pregnancy pending extreme circumstances. Why? Because anything before that isn't alive. A fetus is merely a mass of material until brain activity begins at the 25th week.
@@blunderingfool If you want to call a zygote a "human" go ahead. us here in the real world who aren't so heavily fucking damaged by the weight of our stupidity will continue being correct.
This looks like a Lifetime movie, but even Lifetime movies have their better moments
Lifetime movies begin at conception
lol, my mom used to watch those and you're so right. All that's missing is an eating disorder and an online stalker!
@@genevieveyork7275 You're confusing them with Freeform. Hallmark movies are pure saccharine, enough to put you in a diabetic coma.
Nàaa lifetime is a insult in of itself 😂
@@lainiwakura1776 Oh never seen those, Ill have to remember my caramel popcorn and insulin shots
"I know that some day, I'm going to meet each of you in Heaven."
Wait a minute. She's saying that the aborted fetuses are in Heaven? You're telling me that she gave these souls free tickets to Heaven, removing the risk of growing up not believing and going to Hell, and she's supposed to feel bad about this?
Well that’s totally not confusing 😅
I always heard those end in Purgatory because GOD FORGOT THAT TECHNICALITY apparently...
As an ex catholic, I feel like they glossed over the whole Limbo thing! (Where non-evil unbaptised people go, it's like a subpar heaven or moderate hell.)
@@gregoryfenn1462I’m guessing it’s because the creators/funders of the film aren’t Catholic? Iirc Pureflicks is super Evangelical and Evangelicals traditionally hate Catholics.
Thinking about that I'm reminded of another anti-abortion movie that takes place in pergatory. Three pregnant girls in an underground ward with a doctor forcing them to go through with carrying their babies to term only to realize they died at the abortion clinic. The ones who accepted their babies go to heaven, the last girl whose baby doesn't survive, and the doctor are sent to hell.
The fact the people who made this film put in really graphic abortion scenes to hammer home their terrible argument and THEN got surprised when the movie got hit with an R rating is incredibly funny like what did you expect
Tbf Abby Johnson (the woman this story is based on) said she actually liked the R rating because “it shows that abortion is horrible and violent”
What terrible argument ???
How does that work? How does showing something graphic make your argument worse?
@@seilakkkk5252 The one that's full of lies the anti-abortion movement continually spouts. The only one they've got.
@@lutajucientropija6643 When your argument is a lie. By sensationalising it, you're trying to bypass the critical parts of your audience's brain that says "here, wait a minute..."
OK, one tiny part of this just fascinated me: the Christian, pro-"family values" lady thinks that you should get one vote per household?
Cuz... that literally just created an incentive for people NOT to live in the same household. I assume she probably *also* thinks that single people shouldn't have a vote at all or something... but unless she says that, she's just told everyone that getting married and moving in together halves your combined vote and you should want that.
I dunno, maybe she's right. Maybe some singleton tyranny is in order.
also goes against the entire "jesus loves everyone and listens to everyone!" thing
Tbh, 52% of American adults read at a 6th grade (11 year old) level.
She may be onto something by limiting how many people can vote. Could stop people like Trump and Biden from getting elected in the future.
@@VonVikoGoat - I mean, to be fair, most US Evangelicals would have Jesus arrested for communism if he showed up in their neighbourhood preaching that tolerance and compassion and what-not.
@@FTZPLTC Glad you specified US evangelicals (in germany they're for some reason very liberal)
Edit: Apparently I mistranslated smth, my bad
@grotty5214 explains it a bit further down
@@FTZPLTCsounds accurate 😅
I do love seeing sensitive subject matter being handled with all the grace of a drunk three legged elephant doing back flips off a moving train 🙃🙃
That is very specific but you’re not wrong.
I was forced to watch this movie (back when I was still a Christian) and sobbed through the whole thing. I thought I was going to see an Avengers movie. Anyway your comment was so funny it healed all my trauma
This is such a raw line and I love it
@@rowanquynn9964I hope you got to see your avengers movie somewhere down the line
the fuck are you talking about that would be graceful as shit
It's not just "X to doubt"...I have been screamed at by those people just for going in to get my IUD (or get it replaced), because they either A) Already think ALL these places do is abortions, or B) They saw this movie and took that "Only abortions on Saturdays" line is legit...I don't actually know, but like...I have only ever gone to Planned Parenthood on weekends, and I have never had, nor needed, an abortion. It's ridiculous.
The planned parenthood where I live doesn’t even perform abortions, and you still see protestors standing outside the clinic. These prolifers really don’t want to do their research
Not Saturdays, but I was a volunteer escort at a PP in college and two days a week, they only did abortion services. One day was counseling, the other day was procedures (because my state had a waiting period). From what I understand, it was because PP received federal funding but couldn't use any of it for abortion. We actually had to turn away people coming for BC on those days and tell them to come back the next day because of this. And yes, the protests were much larger on abortion days.
Your still supporting and giving business to an evil corporation regardless of if it's for an abortion. The protesters are in the right here.
This!! I used to volunteer at a women's clinic in Tennessee before the overturn of Roe, even though that clinic primarily gave out contraception and testing (pregnancy/mammogram/sti):these "godly" people would show up with fetus gore posters, dragging their children out to scream obscenities. I shit you not, the only way they would leave is just fucking with them like you're Eric Andre. They LOVE to sit and argue against facts all day, but they hate being asked to do the dougie
It's also 100% NONE of their business.
I remember when I was 14 or 15 and the private Christian school I went to gave us extra credit for attending a free screening of this movie. I remember feeling horrified while watching thinking: Abortion is wrong, this is murder.
Now that I'm an adult with critical thinking skills I'm like: That was freaking propaganda...wtf
Also for anyone whose wondering I am pro-choice and I don't think people without a uterus should be making laws about it.
I am an autistic adult with critical thinking skills and I am pro-life. Stop conflating pro-choice with being smart because it is a matter of belief.
@@AutismGaming489 One might say it’s a CHOICE. My reasoning for being pro choice is the multiple women who are being denied life saving abortions for ectopic pregnancies, the women who are forced to deliver babies that will not survive, and the women with the health condition I have that are suffering because of pro-lifers. Being pro choice gives these people the choice upon their own body whereas being pro-life removes it. Also before you say anything about being autistic or throwing that into this discussion I am not saying being pro-choice means aborting a possibly autistic child, if that were the case I wouldn’t be here.
@@AutismGaming489 I'm an autistic adult and I am pro-choice.... what a weird connection to make.
@@ChessurDeCattyeah that was weird. I’m autistic too but I don’t think autism has anything to do with this argument, or general critical thinking skills at all.
@@AutismGaming489 No, Thinking that just because you believe something it should be law is the opposite of critical thinking or intellectual thought.
In Germany, we are taught that nothing, and absolutely nothing under any circumstance can be compared to the holocaust. Even the worst atrocities should not be set equal to the holocaust because an atrocity of such an extent deserves to stand alone as an absolute evil rather than something relative. It disgusts me when people compare the holocaust to their belief of some form of eradication.
Also I'm catholic and there is no way in hell that we are being discriminated against in western countries such as the US and Europe. I've met middle eastern christians who go to church with armed guards at the gates because of repeated terrorism. American evangelical christians arent oppressed if they can have a netflix equivalent.
Americans need to be taught that too. It's cold and horrifying when people use the Holocaust to stir emotions in others and manipulate them.
It's also really easy to avoid since the Holocaust is a very specific event in history.
Could just say it's a genocide
I disagree with that notion. I just think it's easy to avoid comparing it specifically to the Holocaust.
But for that conservatives would have to read and think critically.
In America, *everything* is like the Holocaust---except the actual Holocaust, which a disturbing number of pundits, politicians, and regular people parroting the above will say wasn't that big of a deal in the first place!
As a German....yeah
I think the comparison is fair. At the time of the holocaust, most Germans saw no issue with the holocaust and pro-choicers and those who are impartial see no issue with abortion. Once there is no abortion anymore, everyone will realize how evil abortion is.
Welcome back! I hope you're feeling better!
One of my husband's coworkers was arguing that Pro-choice people are trying to force abortion on everyone, and my husband looked at the guy and said "We're not saying you have to get an abortion every month; we're telling you to have a choice if you want to or not... "
Surprisingly, my husband was able to shut up a construction worker.
I'll take "That didn't happen." for 500, Bill! No one on the anti-death side thinks "pro choice" means enforced abortions. Good fucking grief, self report much?
@@blunderingfool you'd be surprised how dumb the forced pregnancy group is. By the way pro choice is also anti death
@@blunderingfool I don't care if you believe me or not to be honest. 🤷♀️
@@blunderingfoolwhen you have people on your side saying that 10 year olds should be forced to give birth , i have a hard time separating the strawmen from the genuine articles. theres shitheads on both sides of this argument
@@blunderingfoolwhy are you here then?🤷♀️ what’s the point in commenting if you’re for children getting pregnant from bad situations?😅
i saw an anti abortion presentation in school where an (illustrated) fetus exploded into gibs like a TF2 character when it was aborted
“I have done nothing but teleport fetuses for three days”
Lmao when I was in the seventh grade this one girl told us her aunt went to an abortion clinic and saw the surgery room walls were covered in blood and there were babies crying in the trash cans. We were sheltered preteens, but all of us were like "Jessica, that is the fakest thing we've ever heard."
@@warlordofbritanniaanti abortion activists You what
*insert CRITICAL HIT sound effect followed by domination theme*
@@indescribablycoolikeafurniture
"Welp, off to visit your mother!"
Abby was flabbergasted by that patient at 27:48 getting an abortion for “convenience”, but she herself had an abortion after her divorce because she didn’t want anything to do with her loser ex. Like girl you also aborted your pregnancy for “convenience” so I don’t understand why you’re so shocked by this.
The hypocrisy is astonishing!
@@phoebevaughan5095 Right? I know I shouldn’t be shocked that she’s a hypocrite but damn.
ah, but you see, that situation was different. Because it affected the POV character, so therefore it was justifiable. That other girl was just a background character who in no way has any deeper thoughts or background on why she might get an abortion. Obviously.
(But seriously, this hypocrisy is surprisingly prevalent in Right Wing circles. Something iscompletely bad and evil and of the devil until it suddenly affects me personally, in which case it's actually a lot more complicated you see?)
I don't think having a child with a shxt person is an inconvenience. Being pregnant with someone you hate, having to co-parent and have their presence in your life for ever causes great distress. Not choosing that isn't "for convenience" it's for mental health for you and potential child.
@Samson16436 Tbf she’s not obligated to tell her ex that she’s pregnant or co parent the kid with him. She left him because he’s a bum so it’s not like he’d even want to stick around anyway. She aborted the second pregnancy simply because she just didn’t want to have her ex’s child. She has her parents and other family for support. I’m sure they would’ve helped with the baby. She even told that one lady that she could reconsider because her family was supportive and didn’t want her to abort. So by that logic, Abby did terminate for “convenience.”
Don’t get me wrong, I’m pro choice and think people should abort a pregnancy for any reason they see fit. Whether it’s because they were raped, can’t afford the kid, motherhood would intervene with career or school, or simply because they don’t want to be pregnant. Doesn’t matter to me. I just think Abby is a hypocrite because she’s criticizing a woman for getting an abortion for the same reason she did.
How does this woman go from being a volunteer escort to being the room working on the procedure without her gaining a medical license?
Grifting money
@@allydef My thoughts are more “She was nothing more than a volunteer escort and her claims of witnessing dead fetuses or assisting with procedures are all lies.”
@@ECKohns Tbf there is evidence that she was a clinic director. She even won an award for how well she did her job. She definitely lied about seeing dead fetuses in “POC rooms” because those rooms don’t exist and their concept doesn’t make sense. Her assisting with an abortion procedure at all is a bit iffy since her friend (who is still pro choice and not a grifter) confirmed that she did help with one, which conflicts with what Planned Parenthood said. She absolutely lied about the “baby fighting for its life” thing though.
The same way child murder is considered medicine at all. And to think they made a pariah out of Dr. Kevorkian! At least his patients got born before they decided to end it all! Talk about being pro-choice!
When I went to get an abortion many years ago, the worst part of the whole experience was the people outside yelling filthy things at me (at that time hopelessly addicted to opioids) and my (then) abusive boyfriend. I still can’t figure out how yelling insults at vulnerable people in bad situations is a loving, Christian duty. It’s not a solution, it didn’t help anything - but you could totally tell they were enjoying themselves calling me names and reminding me that hell awaits. By the by, after the abortion I got rid of the guy, got off drugs, and got my act together - these days I’m happily married to a good man and we’ve got a bunch of kids and dogs and cats. My life is full of love. Don’t ever let someone force you into carrying a pregnancy to term if you don’t feel safe - if it feels wrong, follow your gut and try again when you’re ready.
I'm so sorry you went through all that. Some people forget that just because they believe in a purpose they find noble, it doesn't mean it justifies being a bully. (And as a Christian, I want to apologize for those of us that frankly suck, and choose to foster hatred).
Anyway, I'm really happy that your life is going better now. Your family sounds awesome, and I'm happy that they're loving and good to you :)
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, it is really hypocritical how they act, but congratulations to you for how you brought yourself out of that situation.
You could've done all that without the abortion, and how is it wrong what they are doing. They have a right to be against murder and evil murder corporations.
I’m so happy to hear you’re doing well today.
You did what was right for you, and I’m proud you stood your ground ❤
@@Jemmyleedoesart your proud of someone committing murder
The fact that they think calling abortion expensive is any kind of argument when, you know, the other option is PAYING FOR A WHOLE CHILD is so fucking ridiculous it’s ASTOUNDING
You know adoption is a thing... right?
Those aren't the only two options. Adoption, abstinence, and prevention are all much cheaper than either of those.
@drawingdragon you know that women are humans with autonomy and we should not be shamed for doing something we think is best?
@@drawingdragon Yeah except orphanages already are overfilled und underfunded.
"Uhm, have you considered to force the child into a life of poverty and suffering, sweatty💅" really isn't an argument.
Plus a pregnancy is potentionally lethal.
But eh, who cares about women, right?
@@calciumstealer2448 You have to be insane to think that's a justification for murder!!!
@@drawingdragon Oh yes let me put my child in a place that is know for abusing kids and are throw to the streets when they complete 18, truly what a great parent I'm to giving my kid to such place
when pro lifers shut down a planned parenthood in a city I used to live in, thousands of local women lost access to prenatal care that helped many of them carry healthy wanted pregnancies to term more safely.
Planned Parenthood's abortion services make up like less than 10% of their total expenditures, they do so much for cancer screening, STD testing and treatment, prenatal care, and healthcare for communities. Showing it as like 99% abortion services is beyond absurd, many pregnant people who come into clinics are there to receive ultrasounds and check ups and they're still harassed and abused by protesters.
exactly, in India we don't have a thing like planned parenthood so idk much about what is done there, but pro-lifers make it seem like it's just an abortion factory, which i believe will be a very bad use of resources.
I'm a medical professional so I can confirm they would all go to jail if this was real. I'd be surprised if it is true
From what I've learned, it did happen ONCE, and yes, there were prison sentences, and the clinic involved was actually worse than what's shown in this movie even though they basically stole details of that case for this abortion of a propaganda piece.
*Looks at Kermit Gosnell* It took a good long while for anything to happen to him
@@26th_Primarch where did you learn that from? send us a link with proof
I'm angry for 2 reasons: For one: This movie is cringy, misguided and true propaganda. And two: You made me nearly choke to death with that "death star for fetuses" line 😂 Fucking BRILLIANT
Yeah, same as the Jim Caviesel movie, about child trafficking.
The guy they claimed it was a true story about, was proven to have lied about his place in Homeland Security, as well as the actual saving of anyone.
The actual story, was about an adult woman, who was just a prostitute, at a young age, and he took her out of the country illegally. He also screwed up actual operations, that were trying to bring down a bigger trafficking organization.
Never believe _any_ “based on true events” or “based on a true story” or especially “based on real people and real events, with some characters and situations changed for dramatization. Names and places have been changed to protect the people.” 🤣
It isn't propaganda if it showcases the good and bad of both sides...there are pro choicers that care about women's lives and right to bodily autonomy AND abortionists that care about the money and say that women's regret is right-wing propaganda and ignoring women dying from the procedure. AND pro-lifers that offer women other options and ones that harass women and take lives of women that provide abortions. It doesn't demonize Abby or the other workers other than the boss.
i was also cackling that was amazing 😂😂😂
The destruction of the Teletubbies Sun was amazing
Killing your children makes you a subhuman
This entire movie can be summed up with “that’s not how that works, that’s not how any of this works.”
While they were at it they might as well have said "Of course the aborted fetuses still serve a purpose, we dedicate them to our lord Baphomet", since they were so dedicated to the bit.
Yeah but pro lifers don't care which is why they should just be ignored in their entirety at this point they won't listen to reason we should just get these new abortion laws overturned and kept from being implemented again and just let them bitch and moan
I had a pregnancy scare when my ex raped me when I was 19, (luckly I wasn't pregnant) and was so scared to get a abortion due to I saw a video on facebook that showed them ripping a baby in the womb apart, I had no way to care for the baby either :/ Since abortions wasn't really talked about in sex ed. So yeah... things like this harms.
I'm so sorry you went through that. I hope you're doing better, and your ex burns in hell for what he did to you.
You shouldn't have let him do that. You were old enough to prevent and defend yourself. Unless he held you at gun point
@@AWasteOfYourTime8205what
@@AWasteOfYourTime8205There is literally no such thing as “old enough.” You will never be old enough to defend yourself against someone stronger, for example. If you want to be absurd, make a minimally plausible comment.
@@AWasteOfYourTime8205 whine whine whine. cry cry cry. you poor little thing i bet that mean comment was a lot for you handle huh?
The crying because of the copyright joke has me rolling every time!
15 minuten in now, i hope it's not there the WHOLE vid? 👀
Ironically, to get past copyright in this video, CJ had to abort the footage.
The crying was already pretty funny, but the splits across several CRT TVs were beautiful.
@@charmandyorton006I see what you did there.
As someone who used to work at Planned Parenthood:
-Small clinic do specific days of surgical abortions (its the patients choice which one they want unless unfortunately they are too far along)
-It doesn't matter how far along a patient it is, the price is the same. Literally had a person who was in charge in finding funds for the procedures
-We check POC in the moment to make sure everything is accounted for to make sure the patients are taken care of
-We pulled all patients back alone for first for any appointment type to ask ipv (interpersonal violence questions). So a patient wasn't pressured into anything they don't want to
-My facility manager worked her ass off to make our recovery room comfortable
-We were always training to be up to date on comfort, care, and knowledge
-We always made sure the patients had a follow up plan and details on what to expect and when to call if you have a problem. These appointments go from 2-6 hours depending on what we do and full education
-We are a nonprofit, medical clinic. We abide by all medical and HIPPA laws
-We NEVER interact with protestors. We are there for the patients. Period.
I highly doubt they put them in those chairs either. That's a fall risk. They have to be laying down after anesthesia.
I applaud your work, I admire your courage, and I feel like a jerk for laughing at the way you ended that list.
Because abortion brings about periods faster than pregnancy does.
... I'll show myself out.
Exactly. I feel like abortion is a right. It’s something nobody shouldn’t be able to get. Abortion clinics are super safe and do everything they can to make sure it’s what the person really wants, and that they won’t regret it
@@sebastianrubin7476
That was one of the worst puns I've ever heard, but I can't stop smirking XD
Disgusting you saw it.
Regardless of your personal beliefs on this issue, one thing we should all agree on is that if CynicalReviews is talking about it, it's going to be objective trash.
*Addendum* Thanks for the likes, I was not expecting to get this many. It's so nice when everyone can find common-ground on a topic, I just wish this happened way more often.
he did review that Karen movie
Can’t agree more
I feel like I'd be way more offended by this shit if I _were_ opposed to the subject, since it would make my own side look stupid and leave observers in a position where they'd be far less likely to listen if I were to present a genuine and rational argument.
It's like how InfoWars made it impossible to effectively criticise the Obama administration because the uninformed masses just assume you're talking about interdimensional vampire lizards from space rather than big money in Washington and corporate warmongering in the middle east.
@@DistractedGlobeGuyyou've nailed it. It sucks when the extreme nut jobs make your side (either side) look ridiculous. I want to be able to criticize politicians, even the ones I voted for, without being ignored because it's assumed I'm delusional.
Oh no you used the O slur when talking about art
as someone who actually had an abortion, and dont regret it, but- they asked me if I were sure, and offered resources in case i DID want to keep the baby. We did an ultrasound and they let me keep 2-3 copies of what they looked like, lol they didnt “refuse” to let me see the fetus, they just let me make the final decision after showing me. No pressure in either direction, it was just part of the process. Completely painless other than being slightly sore. And told not to strain myself. Which I worked out pretty heavy despite that, so I wound up having minor bleeding as a result. For me personally, no lasting physical drawbacks. It would have been dangerous for me for several reasons to go through with pregnancy more so than a quick, painless procedure
Aw man, it's sad when you want kids, but you can't carry them because it could potentially end your life
yes I feel bad for people who want to have kids and just find it virtually impossible :( its great medicine has started to improve so much but even then theres the financial side of thing and it's still a long process having kids in other ways @@AWasteOfYourTime8205
The claim that they won't allow you to look at the ultrasound is so silly because it is actually required by law that you look at the ultrasound in several US states lol
Like they literally will not give you an abortion if you do not look at the ultrasound while they describe it in detail to you
Bro, isn't it common knowledge that they view the ultrasound? Like?
In what universe would they literally, not allow you to see?
The idea of the law is that if you force the woman to look at a picture of her Little Bobby Fetus, it'll jump-start the maternal instincts and she will change her mind at the last moment. I wonder if it ever actually worked.
@@vylbird8014 That is grossly manipulative... Taking a look, sure. But with the intention to guilt trip them into not performing the procedure? Disgusting.
In some us states, not all. Which means if In one of those states it's not wrong or incorrect, so what's your point.
@@stan8479 how is it disgusting to persuade people against murder lol.
"Is there any greater blessing than a new baby? :))" Well those who don't want kids would probably say that not having kids is the greater blessing
My question is always, what if the baby is the antichrist?
But the poor mother died duing childbirth
@hyzmarca2737 what if the baby is brain dead
@@kathrineici9811 *tokophobia has entered the chat*
Seriously, you can’t take away a medical procedure from others
@@kathrineici9811 nah they don't care
This is the funniest, most ridiculous story I've seen revolving around abortion since that one Zootopia fancomic.
Wow that memory was buried deep in my mind
the Zootopia abortion comic has more artistic value than this movie
The…the what…?
Now I wanna see a dub of this movie where everything related to abortion is replaced with the character’s obsession with Arby’s.
Somehow a furry Disney fancomic has a more nuanced take on abortion than this movie
Whenever I see something like that, I remember a girl from my school that volunteered to hold anti-abortion presentations, and then had abortion herself. I don't think she was a hypocrite, she stopped her pro-life activism after it. Something about sawing off the branch you're sitting on comes to mind.
The Holocaust comparison REALLY pisses me off for two reasons.
1: I'm Jewish, and the attempted systematic extermination of my people shouldn't be used as a talking point for forced-birthers. Fetuses cannot survive outside the womb, they aren't people imo. Holocaust victims were independent, thinking, feeling human beings who were slaughtered due to their ethnicity. The comparison is insulting.
2: One of the often overlooked heroes of the Holocaust is Dr. Gisella Perl. She was an Hungarian Jewish gynecologist who was imprisoned in Auschwitz and later Bergen-Belsen. Because of her medical background, she was forced to assist Josef Mengele, the monster who experimented on prisoners. Mengele had a particular obsession with pregnant women. When Perl realised what Mengele was doing to these women and children, she swore that there would never be a pregnant woman in Auschwitz again. She performed hundreds of abortions at night, in secret, and with no proper medical tools in order to keep these women away from Mengele and the other Nazis (who liked to beat pregnant women to death or throw them into crematoriums alive). It was tragic, since some of these women did probably want their babies, but Perl knew that being pregnant would lead to the horrific deaths of two lives, so she resolved to save the one life she could.
After the camps were liberated, Perl looked for her family, and found out her husband, son, parents, and extended family were all dead, and her daughter was missing. She tried to kill herself but failed. She eventually went to he U.S as a speaker about the Holocaust, wrote a book about her experience, and started practicing medicine again in New York City, where she delivered thousands of babies. Before she entered the delivery room, Dr. Perl would always say, "G-d, you owe me a life, a living baby."
Perl eventually found out her daughter was alive in Israel and moved there to be with her. Apparently, some Jewish women in Israel and in other places recognized her, and they thanked her for saving their lives. Abortion not only saved the lives of Holocaust victims, it saved them from sadistic torture at the hands of one of humanity's worst monsters. So I hope I don't have to explain why using the Holocaust as some "gotcha" against abortion is beyond horrible.
Fuck this movie, fuck forced-birthers, and fuck every single asshole who uses my people's worst massacre as a talking point.
I had never heard about that doctor, but I have to look her up now. She is/was an amazing person, thank you for sharing
Fr, and also, imagine if I was pregnant by rape, and if I would have a high chance of dying. And I would have to die for a child that I never wanted, and that child would probably grow up in foster care or something and would know the truth, and these idiots are going off saying that abortion is murder, I cannot with people! And comparing it to the holocaust is absurd, these are clumps of cells that have the potential to be people, not people!
need a movie about this absolute legend
I never knew about that woman. She’s a hero.
Thank you for sharing this. Books about the holocaust are being banned in many states including the one where I live. My high-school English teacher had a curriculum centered around the holocaust. Every book we read was about the holocaust mostly from survivors. We never read about this doctor! I wish we had. I hate that my younger cousins are going to be attending schools that limit their education and try to ignore history.
25:08 - Hell, I'm pro choice myself precisely BECAUSE I know someone who was pressured to abort. Pro choice means pro CHOICE; regardless of what the choice ends up being, if it's a sound decision made without duress, I'm behind that all the way.
The pro-life side does tend to infantalise women. Their stance isn't hard to understand though: Just realise that in their mind, no women can *ever* freely choose abortion. Such a decision is the antithesis of womanhood. Literally unthinkable. So any women who does make that choice, obviously didn't: She must have been coerced into it by a manipulative father, or brainwashed by feminist propaganda, or forced in to it by her father. So by denying her the choice, they aren't really denying her the choice: They are just making sure that she does what she would surely have done anyway, were she not brainwashed.
What about the unborns choice to live or not.
@@ChaffyExpert mf they don't have a choice; they don't even have a proper brain or heartbeat! They're not going "mama.. mamaa.... eplase dont abort me... pleading emoji...", they don't even know they're in a woman (and if they did, they wouldn't know who she is) because they don't have the brain/power to recognize that they're even ""alive""
@@ChaffyExpertAn unborn baby who has no feelings or the will to live is less important than the life of an already living human who has experiences, emotions and dreams that will be interrupted if they are forced to have a child.
@@ChaffyExpertan unborn baby doesnt have the right to choose lmfao. They physically do not have the mental capacity to think thoughts yet.
Ya know when you said "Cruella DeVille for Fetuses" I had a horrid-yet-funny mental image of this lady wearing a coat made of...you know.
Nooo, why did you make me think of that !?
Lamo
Now this is what the live action Cruella SHOULD have been
That's what the POC room is for, she's already gathering resources.
@@carolyns4519 I mean we also have Glenn Close's Cruella.
I've gone to planned parenthood for:
Cancer screenings
STD tests
Help with reproductive heath (because mine is defective)
My clinic shut down from prolifers a few years ago and I don't even think they did abortions.
Nothing says "pro life" like preventing women from accessing cancer screenings.
@@Ella-g2myup! They’re sooo educated
Good
@@Ella-g2mgo to a doctor for that 😊
@@queenofhearts7503Good that the pro life cause is losing why yes it is good.
It seems like planned parenthood should be able to sue the movie makers for this.
Slander and what not, right??
Yeah, but Streisand Effect... Better to let this fester and die and only be seen by the right wing nut jobs than give it any kind of publicity
@@drunkenhobo8020we don’t have planned parenthood in my country, so may I ask what you are referring to ?
@@drunkenhobo8020 just looked at their website. There is nothing like that. Or maybe they do it in ~secret~. uuuh, scary. No, but seriously, stop lying
@@drunkenhobo8020 you are grossly misrepresenting reality
As someone who grew up in a religious family, this is a good example of how they influence by fear. As a little kid i was even terrified of the word "athiest." Like anyone who didnt believe in jesus was baisically a devil worshipper. They rely on misinformation and make people afraid of the non believers from a young age so they grow up to be adults like this. Of course its important to recognize many people are christians and live in the real world, and are genuinely good people who dont fall for it, but its just so absurd how this movie showcases how millions of people actually think.
Yup and they like to somehow see themselves as full of love..
But they are all only full of 💩
The misinformation comes from the pro-abortion side - e.g. the "clump of cells", "my body", "choice" nonsense to try to justify killing.
I adore the fact that Ridge Wallet is ok with you pretending to deep throat their product.
Oh hey I just saw your comment on the new Alex Meyers vid, good to see you here as well! :)
He going to put it in a jar next to see if it can melt.
I guess they must have thought I have good taste 😏
@@one-onessadhalf3393 Oh hey friend!! I'm glad that we seem to enjoy the same content ☺️
@@CynicalReviews you or the wallet?
As someone who has had an abortion at Planned parenthood I can tell you that 32:55 is a complete lie. They tell you upfront that an abortion is $600. They don't wait until the ultrasound. In fact the ultrasound is usually optional. In my state of Missouri though, it was required by law at the time for them to preform and show you the ultrasound. The price is also negotiable. I paid $45 for mine because I was deeply impoverished and qualified for a charity to cover most of my fees. In addition they were not at all pushy about abortions. They explained all my options and even gave me information to groups that could help me if I kept the baby, groups that offered things like housing and adoption assistance.
Its very disappointing that many people only know PP for abortions when they do so much more. The abortion was the first time I went there but since then I've been going to them for everything from birth control to endometriosis treatment.
They still do abortions which is evil and wrong and makes them wrong too.
A corporation that kills thousands with unsafe work environments wouldn't be fine because they give to charity.
U killed ur child- congrats u sick woman
why didn't you just give it up for adoption? Why kill em?
@@budokanmetal4999 i know youre a troll and also this is none of your business anyway, but I'll give you a few reasons as to why someone might choose to have an abortion rather than go through pregancy and give it up for adoption:
1. Pregancy sucks. It is uncomfortable, stops people from working, is a finantial burden, and sometimes physically changed someone for the rest of their lives in a way they dont want. Wanting to be pregnant makes these symptoms okay, since it is your choice and a risk and sacrifice you are willing to make, but if you dont want to be pregnant, these symptoms are not worth it.
2. Giving birth is dangerous. America has one of the highest mortality rates for women giving birth in any wealthy country. Giving birth can also cause permanent vaginal damage and c-sections are common. Theyre risky and leave permanent scars since theyre a surgery.
3. Giving birth is expensive. The average cost of giving birth in an american hospital is $10,000. Idk what else to say, a lot of people, especially poor people, cannot affort to give birth, especially to a child they dont even plan on taking care of themselves.
4. Emotional attachment to the child after giving birth as well as postpartum depression. Giving birth and then immediately giving up your child is traumatizing. A lot of people get abortions because they cannot afford to have children, as raising a child for 18 years costs an absurd amount of money, something like $100,00. If you know you are going to give up the baby, the entire process of being pregant and giving birth are all the more painful.
5. Foster and adoption system in america is very very very bad. Idk if i need to elaborate on this, but it's extremely bad. There have been studies on it, go read them if you want to be sad, i guess.
6. Eptopic pregancies and any other pregnancy that could kill the mother and/or baby. Giving birth is already dangerous, let alone if you have a condition that makes it multitudes MORE dangerous.
My point is that even thinking or using empathy for a single minute could bring you to literally any conclusion that isnt asking this woman a weird, invasive, and accusatory question.
Basically, fuck off.
@@puffinatheart5565 well said 👏👏
My parents took the family to watch this movie in theaters (I was barely a teenager) and I remember it being horrific and left that theater filled with the propaganda it was pushing. My parents even asked us what we thought about abortion after it, I didn’t even know what abortion was. This is disgusting and knowing what I know now I hate that my parents pushed that onto my impressionable mind
With all of the...less than subtle insinuations in that film, I somehow doubt that it was a coincidence that the woman who was so casual about getting an abortion despite having no 'excuse' for it, was played by a black woman.
Oh wow. My parents dragged us to this when it came out. As some kind of “sticking it to the progressive left”. Watching this review is honestly a lot more healing than I was expecting. Knowing it’s propoganda vs seeing it actively debunked, it’s doing a lot, thank you!
THANK YOU for pointing out how much more dangerous pregnancy and childbirth are than abortion!!! I hate that this part is so often neglected by anti-choice folks. Pregnancy isn't a health neutral condition. Sure adoption is an alternative to get out of parenthood, but then you still have to go through pregnancy and birth, which DOES carry health risks, can be deeply traumatic, and will often permanently alter the body.
That should be the only case because that’s the only case that makes sense.
@@AutismGaming489Sorry, what?
@@KreeZafi Did I stutter?
@@AutismGaming489 No, but I'm not sure what you're referring to. What should be "the only case" and why does that make sense? I almost thought you may have accidentally responded to me when you meant to respond to someone else because I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.
@@AutismGaming489 dammit how am i supposed to make fun of you when you already have autism in your username. Im also an autist but who will believe my username over yours???
this is a conundrum
Cries of the unborn is such a funny title. Moment I saw it I was like
"Bitch the unborn don't cry! They ain't lungs"
Me when they ain’t lungs: 😔
Sounds like it'd be a great death metal song
It's just a clump of cells. women would find illegal ways to have one
@skootergirl22 and then probably die trying, hence the need for legal safe abortions. But these so called pro lifers typical response is these women "deserve to die on the slab" or something along those lines
@@skootergirl22You are also a clump of cells. You are made of human cells and that makes you human. A human fetus is made up of human cells.
This movie was so powerful. It moved me to abort myself.
Are you a ghost?
The best part of this movie is that they couldn't even honestly depict her appearance. Pure flix or whatever they're name is specifically chose an extra thin woman again, even though it's depicting a real person famous to the target audience who was never that thin
Yep! Considering that the average fundagelical is more likely to be on the zaftig side at least, it honestly says several sad things about Christian media (in this case) that they won't even cast people who look like their average viewer, and their average viewer probably prefers it this way! (But, the same goes for the mainstream secular media, too, of course.)
yeah not to be mean or anything, but it's laughable how they got a different woman in terms to appearance to portray her, and strange how no one notices that detail. Oh well I guess pretty women are good for proving your point especially for shitty ones
I worked at a movie theater when this came out and the amount of grandmothers coming out of the theater with giant smiles on their faces and personally thanking us for showing this movie was absolutely jarring and disturbing. The rise of films like this from 2018 and 2019 was a big reason that job stopped being fun.
That is disturbing!
Just woke up so I had a bad taste in my mouth...then I saw that clip where she is saying how police should be more careful around her half-black son purely because of his race, now I have an even worse taste.
And then you hear she’s Catholic and their stance on divorce …like, girl. You need help?
Yeah I feel so bad for her kids...😬
Seriously, what a horrible thing to say about your own child.
She had the crazy eyes during that rant too
As a Christian who believes that life starts at conception; I prefer to see women going to regulated professionals for these procedures, then to attempt it themselves, or go to some back ally "doctor". The choice is not mine to make, nor is the judgement.
Thank you for understanding
See, this is what it means to agree to disagree in a civil way.
You, my friend. Is what we call: "A reasonable human being". Good for you.
I am glad that there are women like you. My great grandmother (roman catholic) tried to have an abortion around the 1920's. She had 10 living kids and a husband who dipped for a younger woman. The depression was looming, and she had to make a choice. She died and left 10 kids to be raised by any family member willing to stick their necks out which unfortunately we didn't have many at that time. Some did manage to scrape by as farm hands, but their history was lost. We know of my great grandmother, and she told the story of her mother and the 3 siblings she did manage to keep tabs on. I know that 1920's abortion care is not on the same par as today in terms of safety, but I think it can't be ignored that women will make these choices with or without safe access. At least with safe access we can save some of the lives that would otherwise be lost.
@@tearainey1 I am a man, but I thank you for sharing your family story. I am sorry that your great grandmother had to go through such a difficult time.
i love how anti abortion propaganda thinks everyone will get abortions for fun
Yeah it's baffling lmao. Do they seriously think that people get abortions just for fun?
Some people do though, and boast about how many they've had online.
Both extremes are just as bad and neither should be viewed as good in any way.
@@DaveMan1Ki would like one singular link or username of a single person actively boasting about their abortion count in a way that is 100% genuine
@@lord_ozymandias
These people are on TikTok and get buried under a sea of degeneracy. I've only seen them when other people are commenting over them. They were the topic during the Roe v Wade thing.
@@lord_ozymandiasyou can find feminists online bragging about aborting baby boys
A story I have from entering an abortion clinic, it was calm and quiet inside, everyone was gentle and very soft spoken since no one WANTS to be there. Upon entering (I entered twice) we had a lady who stood between us and protestors with an umbrella who made sure we were okay before showing us through. A traumatic experience with supportive and understanding professionals. I would never wish needing to have an abortion upon anyone but the fact that it's an option is so extremely necessary.
(I don't wanna discuss these things further then throwing down a vague part of my experience and general opinion, so I'm not gonna reply if anyone wants to fight lol)
Honestly props to that Healthcare professional for going the extra mile to defend from those protestors
@@Dovah_Slayer❤
10:29 Women who lend their woumbs for other couples are voluntaried... does... does she not know that? Does she think the two evil gay men strapped a pregnant woman in a hospital bed and forced her to give them her child? Also it is pretty common in straight couples where the woman can't get pregnant for X reasons but they don't want to adopt.
Got to admit, surrogacy pregnancy is quite a commendable thing for a woman to do, knowing that it exerts a great deal of effort on a woman's body.
@@blunderingfool fr. Imagine being so cool you basically lend 9 months of your life to someone else
Fr! How are people this stupid? 💀
@@Gustoberg
Honestly, I can’t imagine a more Christ-like act
Most surrogate mothers do it because poverty forces them.
Why isn't adoption an option?
Pregnancy Prostitution seems like a vanity project for narcicisstic wannabe parents.
And these people shouldn't have children.
29:57 I burst out laughing every time the villain of this movie has her little rant about how "abortion is our fries and soda", and again when she threatens the protagonist at 33:48. She's such a walking, talking strawman character for conservative Christians to hate on, and it's hilarious.
Honestly sounds like a line that Eric Cartmann would say, not a “serious” antagonist.
And conservative Christians are never used as strawmen
@@paigerocks884 They have factories of strawmen and pretend that every time one is shot down it was actually them
Honestly i'm probably about as close to a pro-choice strawman as you can get, and I _hate_ abortions. I think preventing them is important. It's just that we shouldn't prevent them with public shaming and legal restrictions, we should prevent them with increased access to high quality education, birth control, pregnancy care and childcare.
@@actualgoblin Unfortunately the right doesn't care about children except in a pedophilic way. They only see women as subservient breeding farms, so I think abortion is going to have to stay for a loooong time
the fact a One Direction song was almost in this movie is WILD.
I like to imagine Cyndi Lauper telling them "No" with a lot of additional profanity.
@@Zaprozhan I would pay so much to be a fly on the wall for that meeting
My brown son? Damn just say he's adopted while she was at it. She sounded as if she wanted to disown the poor kid and tell him how she really feels.
You can just tell by the way she talks about the poor kid that he’s gonna grow up feeling alienated from his family and resent them.
@@hamishstewart5324he probably knows already. I know from experience, children-even very young ones-know when their parents hate them. They don't admit it because they're scared of what their parents will do to them if word gets out. But the kids, sadly, know.
@@carolyns4519 let’s just hope that he finds people on his life who actually love him and accept him.
If she had a homosexual child she’d accuse them of being a child molester
Imagine being a parent who justifies other peoples racism against your own child.
I love how she claims to be pro-life while just admiting that she sees the life of one of her own children as inherently less valuable than another one of her children simply due to the color of their skin.
Jen Hart vibes
Not racism, profiling.
@@TheRealJellyBomb I understand what you mean. But let's be honest. You profile someone based on the color of their skin, that is racism.
@@tsubakiofmelancholy6297 No, it's not. When you stop a white guy in a red shirt and khaki pants on the street because that fits the profile of the person who just robbed a liquor store a block away, that's not you being racist against white people, that's you profiling. Which is part of your job as a police officer.
Speaking of that ending of God's Not Dead, he was actually starting to have a change of heart and was going back to apologize to his girlfriend, but he ended up dying anyway. Also, that was very clearly a hit and run since it perfectly ran him over without swerving or anything, and it drove away. But nobody at the site gave a shit about the driver.
Obviously the driver was God himself
Jesus took the wheel
Deus Ex Machina
Yeah pretty sure he'd have preferred to live longer and nobody in the film addressed the hit and run? I like to think about an imaginary spin off where the Josh Wheaton kid was a suspect in the hit and run due to their disputes over God during lessons 😂
That would’ve been a much better ending if he lived. He realized how harsh he was to his girlfriend and went to make it up to her. Maybe they didn’t have to get back together right away, but them talking things over and being happy in each other’s presence would’ve been so sweet. But no he’s an atheist and atheists are “evil” so the writers wanted to get rid of him, but not before he was made to convert before he died.
The first abortion scene is so weird. It's 13 weeks, so it wouldn't even be moving to begin with. A fetus starts kicking and moving around 20 weeks, and if it's needed to be delivered at 23 weeks or earlier, it won't survive. Cause well, nothing developed enough for it to survive. Even babies born around 28-30 weeks are going to need a lot of medical intervention in order to have a chance to survive. So 13 week fetus wouldn't even be able to "struggle to survive" cause it wouldn't be aware of what's happening
This topic is one that really pisses me off. If you don't want an abortion, dont get an abortion. Simple. Just don't stand in the way of someone making a decision in regards to their own life, especially one which could affect the rest of their life. I've never wanted kids, I'd be an absolutely awful mother but I'd never put anyone down for wanting kids. I like kids, just not for extended periods of time. Honestly, the people who are super "anti-kid" annoy the heck out of me as they're so damn judgemental a lot of the time.
This is so accurate. There is even more to it, some women want a baby but due to issues during pregnancy have to abort, no one really talks about the mental aspect of it. It really breaks a person.
I get what you mean, I’m firmly on the “no kids” side myself, but I am also Pro-Choice, because no one but the woman carrying the pregnancy should have any say in what happens. Which is why the whole “banning abortion” thing in America just baffled me, what do they think will happen? That all the unwanted pregnancies will be brought to term, their parents will magically come together, love them, create a nuclear family and live the American dream? Hell no it won’t! Unless you were one of the two parties involved you have sweet FA to do with that pregnancy and should therefore GTFO out the debate!
As you said, if you don’t want one don’t have one! But don’t judge those who do 😒😒😒
It's unfortunately not that simple
"If you don't like abortion, don't get an abortion"
Is usually responded to with
"If you don't like murder, don't murder someone"
lol, I’ve seen enough r/childfree and other such forums…you’re right they’re just as crazy those people too definitely.
@@rachelc.8143 Two sides of the same crazy coin.
I was forced to watch this, and, even as an older teen, I was greatly affected by the movie. I TRULY thought that the abortion scene was real, with the doctors being rough on the patient, the crude suction sounds (they got me bad for some reason), and the bad CGI "baby" fighting for its life in the womb.
After watching the movie, I admit I turned pro-life for a little while, believing abortions to be malicious and dangerous both for the woman and the unborn "baby."
Now I am an adult, watching this video with a clear mind. I'm not being forced to watch it with people who react like its all true. Now I am watching with a critic who can call all the bullshit out when I can't. I can tell when CGI is being used (though admittedly the scene still makes me sick to my stomach because I'm just weak to that stuff 😭).
To any child/adult who was forced to watch this movie, I am sorry you had to put up with this, whether it be the cringey acting, or the bloody scenes.
An abortion is pretty dangerous for the baby to be fair, 100% fatality rate.
@@blob22201😂😂😂
@@blob22201 Fetus, not an actual baby, but yeah, funny joke. It's just important to keep the facts straight.
@@paigemosher8697 whatever helps you sleep at night
@@blob22201 i bet she sleeps just fine
If you cover up “*CJ crying about copyright”, it looks like he’s crying about the terrible movie
Lol
I thought he was crying as a “omg this movie is so sad 😢💔” meme
"I probably have a better chance of getting pregnant myself."
Be careful man, fanfic writers could be watching
how come people who exclusively focus on what upsets them can never write realistic dialogue or form coherent thoughts? It it that there's no room left in their heads for logic?
yes
Apparently you need to go back to writing school instead of pretending you're smart.
Correct
Speaking from experience that’s what happens when you dive deep into religious fundamentalism as it’s basically mostly a black and white mentality that doesn’t allow much imagination (especially if that imagination goes against what the church community teaches)
@@monus782Gotta say, that sounds like a pretty sad existence. Hope the people who have fallen for such things get the help they need
Nice to see you haven’t collapsed and entered a lifetime long coma after binging the atrocity Mindy Kaling dares to call “Velma”.
Thanks for the content👍
He's strong as fuck!
I hope she doesn’t reboot that fucking show lol, it would be a bad business venture for HBO
HBO Max announced S2 for Velma shortly after the last episode of S1.
Some people speculated that HBO ordered 20 episodes and it got split into 2 seasons.
With how HBO killed Scooby Do thru Velma and Clone High (s2 sucked), im wondering wtf is going on at these pitch meetings.
@@jaybay5538they were probably working on season 2 while season one was even airing(in all its glory)
@@jaybay5538 SHHHHHHHHHHHH NO. THE. FUCK. THEY. DIDNT. 👏🏾 if we ignore it’s existence, it’ll GO AWAY.
"The passcode spells baby."
2229 would actually spell AAAW. BABY would be 22,2,22,999. And if it's 'pressing numbers associated with the letters to remember it' it could just as easily be ABBY. And 2229 isn't even difficult to remember. This annoys me more than it should!
And how could she not remember a code that has the same number 3 times in a row?
If you look at the number upsidedown...
Budget of 6 million...
🤓
i was 15, and a r@pe victim. i couldn't get an abortion and was not allowed to, even though i was R@PED and had absolutely no intent of getting pregnant. i almost died giving birth. my child is with another family now, and i do not know who, because i could not care for her. my r@pist only got 4 years in jail.
Sorry that happened to you, hope you’re doing well now ❤
At least r@pists have it the worst in jail. Beaten, stabbed, etc.
wtf that's horrible! I hope you and your child are safe, wherever you guys are.
I am so sorry that you endured that. One could not even begin to imagine. You are a fighter and a survivor. You are a warrior. I hope that you find some healing.
I am so sorry ❤❤
Why are movies like these always the most on the nose thing in existence?
Because they're made by people with the media literacy of a potato
@fieldm08
The peaceful pro lifers was definitely the worst part. Just simply being more polite about your message doesn't make it any less incorrect especially if you're using the same incorrect info the violent pro lifers were using.
I doubt the people who made this had any self awareness. Feels really...tone deaf
Because they're propaganda.
@@MutatedPercent So does that mean violent pro-abortionists are just as right as peaceful ones?
Arguibly, i'd say they are even MORE in the right, cuz they at least have initiative to get the message across.
“If you’re going to make a case, you should make it well, and we should all have the integrity to reject something this bad even if it supports our point of view” is the best advice.
However, I don’t think most humans can follow it.
Yeah. I can agree as a pro-lifer this movie wouldn't be what I'd use. That said, that doesn't make him right about pro-choice information either.
Abby Johnson strikes me as a pathological liar, she did when I was more pro life in 2011 just as much as she does now when I’m pro choice.
Why were you pro life before, and what changed your outlook? Not saying I'm full on against pro-lifers, just curious.
@@darth_autismo I was raised in a fundamentalist environment and then I educated myself about the issue from less biased sources. Plus I also grew up and kinda realized that if this choice was taken away, more people would die.
@@RinitaChanThat's not true, the only reason people die when abortions are banned is because leftist doctors don't care if someone dies in order to push their agenda and purposefully let it happen knowing full well the law is. Also more People die from abortions its just that pro choice people don't consider fetuses people.
Like literally every genocider considers the people they kill to not be people.
Child murder really grew on you huh? Sick
@@RinitaChanno one would die if abortion was taken away, people who need it for medical reasons would still get it. No pro lifer is against that,
When i see anti's and can stomach dealing with them, i always ask, "What do you actually DO to help women and girls with crisis pregnancies?" Do you have a disowned pregnant 16-year old living with you? Do you pay for someone's Prenatal visits? Give somebody a lift to the hospital? Take someone to Prenatal yoga/class/ breastfeeding class? Supply diapers, formula? What do you do that will ACTUALLY HELP?
Try to give them health and safe sex advice also tell them not to whore themselves out to random people and to respect themselves more.
Then they say: You never tried to help me.
@@popneppopnep4357hahaha what a goon "safe sex advice" while calling them a whore.
Really giving the game away there dummy
@@popneppopnep4357yeah big shock calling women whores and showing them no respect make them not want to listen to ur advice anymore. have u ever gone outside
No woman wants to get an abortion but it's no one else's choice but hers if she wants to get one. I have no regrets getting one when I was 22.
absolutely crazy that women, who already exist as living human beings, are supposed to sacrifice everything and give up on their own lives the moment they become pregnant no matter what the circumstances. I'm glad you were able to access one, anyway
Exactly, no one wants to have to make that choice and yet sometimes a situation comes up where that’s the best option for us…
If their life is threatened by the fetus
@@skootergirl22Nah
@@lemonywater2979 what do you mean?
I find it hilarious how a lot of these types of films genuinely just feel like a parody of themselves most of the time😅
Amazing video
Also i find it hilarious that so many ways right wing Christian groups get annoyed at people for not automatically converting while also acusing LGBTQ+ people/ other religions of being brain washers😂
The only thing the LGBTQ+ brainwashed me about was avocado outside of guacamole tasted good.
Which one of those ideas is being toted into the schools? Be honest now.
@@noahc2078 Christian ideologies are primarily being placed in schools, such as how in a lot of states evolution isn't being taught at all because of Christian parents complaining
@@mrseaweed88 What Christian ideologies are you referring to?
@@noahc2078 the ideas of creationism
I want to thank planned parenthood for always being there when i needed my birth control and yearly exams. I got them all for free because i didnt have any money at the time. Thank you so much! I will continue to support them! ❤
My OBGYN dropped by insurance while I was pregnant so they could only see me through to my 6 week health check. Planned Parenthood was there to give me an affordable IUD when I was in between health care providers. The protesters didn't know what to make of a woman with a newborn walking into the building... probably wondering if I was going in for a 50 week abortion 🙄
I also want to thank planned parenthood for my free birth control as a broke college kid. Those pills prevented me from getting preggo and needing an abortion.
Thank you to planned parenthood for attempting to help me manage my abortion with empathy, and holding my hand and crying with me when state law got in the way and I had to be redirected to someplace else.
I met an evangelical once, she was insufferable and called everything demonic. It was absolutely hilarious when I turned on prince of Egypt only for her to call it demonic. 😂🤦🏼♂️ So I cracked open a bible and showed her that it was based on a biblical story; she was red-faced and pissed.
You can't get much more demonic than killing babies
So what did she live with you or something?
Was this a date, why would she be watching a movie with you??
My dads family are evangelical. They think Harry Potter is demonic because it uses magic, but they love Lord of the Rings? I mean, there are literal wizards and mythical creatures in that movie???
And then everyone clapped
I'm happy Cynical can talk about this maturely. And honestly deserves credit for all that research showing the timeframes that don't match up and how her excuses became more and more convoluted and disconnected to reality.
I know even friends of friends in his group or of podcasts he's been on have had some unhinged opinions on this topic (randomly checked out their channel to see what content they make to tune into a rant saying it's baby murder) and I start losing faith some of the reviewer channels are becoming more diluted into "I'm actually mad about this more because I hate lefties" than any complex idea about film or game quality and being realistic and fair in my opinion
Like you know the starfield pronouns rant thing that's been going on.
Cynical reviews is probably the best commentary channel on TH-cam currently (closely followed by people like Edache etc)
The Starfield pronouns thing is especially ridiculous to me.
Like, tell me you've never played a Bethesda game before without telling me you've never played a Bethesda game before.
That’s unusual
@@princeapoopoo5787 I mean for me it's even weirder because it's a space setting. Maybe I'd understand thinking its out of place in a fantasy setting of unwashed masses with little education. But in Space settings it makes so much sense to have that option as humanity I'd going to be well past many traditions and parts of life that are normal now. Space settings are naturally going to be far more disconnected from petty stuff like that.
These are likely the same people mad about a bathroom being changed in dead space to fit reality more.
Yeah it really sucks to find a review channel that seems promising at first but turns out to have some of the worst takes on the internet
They freak out when they find out they aren't just "the evil abortion place" when they are really just a clinic that helps people with resources and reproductive healthcare as well as hrt and gender identity health care
Lmao this video's comment section sure brings out the freaks.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 your point being?
@@sorentothesky People on the left are mostly neurotic, insane, and insufferable
@@neo-filthyfrank1347
You should stop projecting
@@neo-filthyfrank1347you're here aren't you?
Calling pro-lifers "pro-life" is like calling Ronald McDonald a health guru
I prefer the term ‘pro-birth’ because they truly don’t care about the child after it’s born for the most part, nor do they seem ‘pro-life’ about the afab people who have their bodies used as incubators for 9 months (not of their own will, I mean. Not those who choose to become parents)
That quote is legendary!
@@ghoultoothAre surgeons responsible for their patients after the surgery? Are they responsible for patients food and housing?
@@AutismGaming489uh yeah. If you get an infection from a botched surgery who’s fault is that?
@@AutismGaming489also, that’s hardly the point. The point is that they’re pro birth - not pro life.
They don’t care what happens to someone after they’re born as long as they’re born. That’s not pro life.
Pro-Life: Save the fetus, give zero fucks about the baby.
That’s why they’re pro birthers, breeders. 9 million babies are born all the time. Who cares about one Fetus that is aborted? Why obsess over a stranger and their body, they get to choose if that Fetus gets to use their body and resources or not. Also they don’t cry about babies who starve to death in extreme poverty countries or the orphanages or homelessness . They don’t donate, offer to pay for housing, food, clothes, medical things baby necessities, etc etc especially for 18 years
I've always found it so intresting how.....NOT pro-lifers are. On so many levels.
@@LillithPlaysSims Yeah. Abortion prevents one life, but overpopulation will get rid of all life.
@@LillithPlaysSims but the point is accurate many pro-lifers have good arguments against abortion but don't have solutions
ok, you lost me on overpopulation@@nerdatron817