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Elvis the alien just wanted company in analyzing that godforsakn bad movie. Tat should be thoughtful psychological horror and not that. With not a cartoonish villain being the star. Like rosmaries baby, where you dont get what rosmary goes through in anxiety. An m
Ok so I dont want to be an asshole. Im just saying this because you might not know or it might have been a joke I didn't understand. I've only ever heard Zumies pronounced like "zoomy's" or at least this is the first time I've heard it said like a Spanish last name.
As a black man I just find it ironically insulting that this directors idea of every day conversation between black people is that we always bring up how black we are. Being black isn't my social trait, my terms of endearment to my girlfriend do not include how "woke" we are, and id never invite a guest of another race (or honestly anyone) to my house warming party just to discuss racism thus putting them in a naturally awkward position, we can have normal conversation like anyone else. This movie is just absolutely contrived to its core to an nauseating degree
I'm a cop in the UK and 2 of my black colleagues who I am close with have said the cringiest thing they experience on the job is people trying to 'buddy' up to them and be allies in their 'struggle' against 'whiteness' and colonialism. It's almost as if they resent people assuming their entire life-outlook based solely on the colour of their skin... I think there's a word for that.
They don’t see us as normal people. We’re like aliens to them. If they actually knew random every day black people, this movie wouldn’t have even been made. They don’t have a clue how we really are. We’re all individuals and we’re certainly not all woke Democrats that hate white people.
As much as I loathe Karens, one thing I hate about the 'Karen' meme almost as much as them, is that just like the word 'Simp', it's been overused to the point where it barely means anything anymore. I saw this Reddit story from a Food Delivery guy. He delivered food to a house, and the daughter answered the door. When giving her the food, he was going into creepyville with her, and the daughter's mom saw it and lashed out at him. He saw it coming, and yet he tried to pass it off as a "Shut up Karen" moment, when he was being the Karen in the situation bc he's whining that he couldn't get to third base with her daughter. That's not a Karen, that's a good mom. She deserves a medal. Is 'Karen' a slur? Absolutely not. But I hate how it's been reduced to 'Woman I don't like'.
It really has transformed from a cultural observation on entitled busybodies to another thought terminating cliché you can throw at people you dislike so you don´t actually have to engage with them. Ironically the example of a "Karen" shown from 1:45 onwards is just such an example of a misapplication of the term, though in this case used for selling outrage and not due to personal animosity. Having seen the entire video and read witness-testimony collected by the police the woman was perfectly understandable in her reaction, as the person filming the encounter had been in a previous altercation with her, after which he followed her through the park trying to lure her dog with food, stating he would take it away, which explains why she is so forceful in trying to keep the dog close to her.
The weird part is that this Karen seems to know she's racist when the meme Karen is not selfaware enough to see her inherent racism. The fact that meme Karen actually believes she isn't racist is what makes that brand more insidious. Like...who is this movie for? It seems like no one wants to claim it.
Being a Karen has nothing whatsoever to do with racism. It's entitlement, which takes many forms and can have many results. ... Though you are correct in that real Karens act the way they do because they lack self-awareness, which is one of many things this movie gets wrong.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 While not all Karens are racist, some of them are. The kind that complain about minorities moving into wealthy neighborhoods, or vote down public transportation reform because "public transportation means poor people, and poor people are criminals." And of course the connection with criminals and minorities is inevitable with those types of Karens. Classism and racism are part of the mentality of lower upper class moral watchdogs.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 that's true. I just think in this case they were trying parody bbq karen the park lady with the poodle. It just doesn't come across very authentically. Though i agree that being a Karen is more about entitlement than anything else.
i said this on deangelo wallace's video abt the trailer for this, but the way theyve pigeonholed the karen character as completely evil and remorseless and self aware just hurts the movie and also the audience watching it. like its so easy for a bunch of middle aged racist white women to see her and say 'oh well im not as bad as HER, so i must not be racist/terrible!' imagine how much better this movie could have been if they had created a character with enough depth and subtlety to make ppl scrutinize their own subconscious racism. what a wasted opportunity.
And of course, even the African symbolism had to be lazy and mean absolutely nothing except the physical geography-because a pan-African unionist flag wouldn't have flown with the FCC and any artifacts or symbols of any specific real-world African culture would have gone right over the heads of their intended audience.
Lets also get angry at a woman for scrubbing racialy tribalistic chalk drawings on a driveway done by kids who dont know the brainwashing they are being exposed to. Karen was RIGHT to scrub it away - especially since we know what that trash org is all about. F'n joke! Plus they talk about being held "captive" by this nation. Yet they are all well educated and own a nice home. WHY BLACK AFRICANS THINK BLACK AMERICANS ARE UNGRATEFUL AND ENTITLED. Go see how well life would turn out for you where your own rule ya affirmative action piles of shit!
This actually angers me more than it probably should, but it's always the same shit in these pieces of media who want the brownie points for talking about racism without actually talking about anything ! "It's just a few individual rotten apples who just happen to be a bit racist" - WRONG ! It's a ton of varying, often subconsciously followed systems and routines that together rig larger systems against any minority who you can easly perceive as being a minority at first glance ! And that's coming from me, a heterosexual white male from Germany who has never had any personal connections, let alone problems, with racism - and it still even annoys ME out of all people !
I've been laughing at that since the trailer came out. Especially since a real Karen would be more likely to yell at store management for stocking stuff like that than buy one herself.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Yes, thank you. I've heard "Karen" used to descrive women who refuse to wear masks, and used to describe women who order people to wear masks. I'm wondering if "Karen" is low-key misogyny aimed at any woman who has an opinion.
@@Unknown-hb3id This. They're that one kid on the playground who doesn't like the rules or the game everyone else is enjoying, so demands it change to suit them better personally. And when that doesn't happen, they go crying to a teacher with lies about how cruel and unfair everyone was for excluding her. Then the fun is ruined.
I admit, I'd probably say something stupid like that--completely unaware of any connotations. Then it'd probably dawn on me and I'd apologize so profusely that she'd forgive me right away while laughing her ass off. Because that's how human beings work when they're not in cults.
The whole "If you don't like it then you can go back" argument is actually a really weird one(using this as a Segway to talk about cool history stuff, I don't agree with the statement obv), but also kinda historically interesting. Mainly because it already happened, Around 1816 there was this whole movement of People who believed it would be best for African Americans to have their own colony away from prejudice caused by ideas racial supremacy, as well as southern slave owners wanting them gone so currently enslaved people wouldn't get ideas about being free from the already freed slaves. Eventually (I'm oversimplifying a lot, serious research this cause its fascinating) around 4,000 free black people and 7,000 slaves who agreed to go in exchange for their freedom emigrated to what is now known as Libera, and actually ended up enslaving the local African population in Liberia to serve them.
Man, this could have been good for spreading Awareness of the Karen-Trope, which in turn would literally (and i aint joking) help Humanity become more healthy, in my opinion...
As someone black I was laughing when I saw the trailer for this like surely this is some stupid TH-cam parody movie and uh nope it's not. They do so bad at making Karen an actual villian and in the end we end up hating the "innocent" main characters who are equally just as terrible. Just yikes. Lovely to watch you review this trash fire.
"... main characters who are equally just as terrible" But isn't this the equality everyone is craving for? see, the black people were just as unlikable as the white ones ^^
The meme Karen is about entitlement and lack of self awareness. It can be racist but it does not have to be. And this Karen was too aware of herself. This movie did not get it whatsoever and that is just peak hollywood right here.
No, it's just another in a long line of politically acceptable slurs that are used to defame white people. Part of the problem is we obfuscate, we rationalize and we try to be reasonable while the society these people are making rages, kills and hopes to exterminate our people. 😀 Make no mistake: "Karen", "Nazi" and all the rest are slurs used to rob whites of our humanity and justify our destruction.
@@benjaminwhitaker2484 The fuck are you talking about? The Karen memes are popular and laughed at by white people too, stop trying so hard to be oppressed.
@@benjaminwhitaker2484 My god all that white supremacy propaganda has really dragged you down in some weird fantasy world where white people are oppressed instead of the dominant race on the planet that literally oppresses everyone else. But if you watch fox news and infowars 24/7 then you will feel under attack certainly. Even though reality is that we are just trying to fight racism a little bit. Because if a Karen calls the police, she might face a bit of social stigma but the black person might get killed. And that is the reality. And it is funny that you think that people should not think of Nazis as bad. That tells you everything we need to know about you.
@@PapasGatito Black people laugh at black jokes so I guess they're not "racist"? Oh...... You might be interested in data concerning "self-hatred" and out group preference amongst whites (higher than any other two races combined) before using "whites laugh too" as an argument. Also you might want to look up the definition of "oppressed" before you speak for me, k?
Free will only exists when it's convenient. Gotta explain why evil exists and bad things happen? Free will exists! Surgeons saved your life with science and skill? Thank only god, not the surgeons, because free will doesn't exist!
I feel bad for people named Karen who are kind and good people. They are stuck with being associated with a bunch of idiots that were posted online, and were lucky enough to become meme's.
I had to explain to my mother-in-law Karen what “a Karen” is. Her life is dedicated to providing aid to refugees in our city and working to ensure that the system doesn’t overlook vulnerable people. I felt awful explaining to her why people she knew were making fun of her for her name.
I do too. Whenever I think of the name Karen, I always think of the teacher I had in grade 7 in elementary school. She was very nice to everyone. Like I remember when it was her birthday, she could of said nothing and just made it a regular school day but instead, she decided to take me and my class for ice cream and bought all the students ice cream. I never forgot that. I even remembered during the last days of school, when you get the paper suggesting what high schools to choose from, I was going to choose my best friend's school at the time but then my teacher said suggested a different one and told me some more things about it so I ended up choosing that one and because of her, that high school she chose, it made learning for me so much easier and got me into college.
@@lapsedgoth Thankfully she didn't seem too shaken or upset by it, probably cause she had much bigger things to focus on and worry about. I felt terrible explaining it to her though.
@@jibekmechler139 I don't really think that's relevant in reality. This could have been written by anyone with the same degree of ignorance and ineptitude.
@@collodion1884 it is relevant, because you would assume that a black man wouldn't be so tone deaf. It would almost make sense for someone who wasn't a poc to not know wtf they was talking about
Oh God!!!! This film really exists? "You are a strong, beautiful, intelligent and woke black man!" I'm half Irish and half Polish so I'm as white as white gets and therefore have no experience on how black people speak to one another behind closed doors....But fuck man, I know a billion percent it's not like this lol I've got black mates who I go drinking with from time to time and I've never heard them use the word 'black' during conversations. They just generally, you know, speak like everyone else, talk about the weather, the football, a new film or music track that's coming out, this film makes it sound like all black people only use about 5 words and 3 of those are the word black lol It wouldn't surprise me me if this film actually offends more POC than it endears to.
If you think this movie was funny, you all should read the interview the director (Coke Daniels, a black man) gave for making this movie. He called it a "feel good film". *eye rolls into the ninth dimension*.
"points" for the incredible "subtlety" of the Africa earrings, scarf and bowtie with african patterns, if they didn't add those incredibly inconspicuous details, I would've never guessed!
@@petrfedor1851 irl they look great, although in movies it feels like the director is screaming "LOOK AT THIS CHARACTER! HE IS BLAAAACK! I'M INCLUSIVE! LOOK AT HOW INCLUSIVE I AM!!!"
Wait, hold up... Are you suggesting... that these characters are Black? I need to go check... Holy shit, you're right! Those characters really are actual Black people! I never would have noticed that subtle detail if you hadn't pointed it out. Thanks!
Wait, so Karen's daughter has a black boyfriend? How old is this girl supposed to be? Because, she doesn't look a day over 10! By the way, this movie was originally going to be even LESS subtle; Karen's last name in the final cut of the movie was "Drexler," but originally it was going to be (I kid you not) "White"! I'm surprised they didn't consider naming her Karen Cracker or Karen Honky!
My best friend’s mom is named Karen, she’s a hardworking single mom of five who’s trying to get a medical degree. why she has to be associated with the other Karens is beyond me
"Karen" may work as an opening joke for a dramedy which is actually about manager and employees being held hostage by a robber, it really can't carry a movie on its own.
@@emerald_espeon Maybe Karen gets a redemption arc by shouting at the robber for making her miss her appointments distracting him long enough for the manager to grab his rifle.
@@Alias_Anybody They're assaulted by generic terrorists and Karen saves the day by demanding to speak to their leader and being like "you call that an explosive vest? My son makes explosive vests down in Portland, he could show you a thing or two about-" until the leader just blows himself up because it means he won't have to listen to her anymore and the day is saved.
@@CruelestChris I've said it before: the government should send an army of Karens to North Korea, demand to speak to the manager. The Kim family will abdicate in a week.
@@Vollification Troll 2, Plan 9... Most So Bad it's Good films have heart in them and you can tell they were trying. This? This is just irresponsible and stupid.
@@NebLleb I love Plan 9 :D Movies so bad they are good are often very warm in a way. They want to entertain, tell a story or don't take themselves seriously. "Karen" is a movie that seems like it takes itself seriously, if it's supposed to be a form of satire, I don't see it. It would have been so much better if it had been some kind of redemption arc where Karen go from being angry and bitter to wholesome and happy. Or a plot twist where Karen seems like a standard Karen at first but surprise surprise, it turns out the manager was the villain all along. Or an over the top comedy with a group of Karens on a never ending quest to find a manager only to find out that maybe the real manager was the friends they made along the way :) The only thing I see in this movie is "hate" essentially. "Some people are just plain evil and deserve to die." It is shoehorned political messages trying to cash in on a meme. A Karen is tragic and silly. This "Karen" is just plain evil that do evil things for the sake of being evil. It's like portraying the village idiot as an evil dragon that needs to be slayed.
Award fact Karen was nominated for 5 Razzies last year for Worst Picture, Director & Screenplay for Coke Daniels, Actress for Taryn Manning and Remake/Sequel for being an inadvertent remake of Cruella starring Emma Stone. The first 4 lost to Diana: The Musical and the last one to Space Jam: A New Legacy (respectively)
As a retail worker I HATE how overused the Karen meme is and how it got turned into a thing about racism. It wasn't. It was an entitled bitchy lady throwing a fit at retail workers over things that don't matter. That's it. Karens can be any color. And now it's been ruined and turned into a thing that it isn't. It's also now just used to shut down women you don't want to deal with so it's almost become misogynistic which is fun.
It's like this movie was written by an AI that spent a week machine learning on twitter. It's actually amazing just how it fails at EVERY SINGLE aspect of what it was trying to do. It has to be seen to be believed.
I can't believe a black director made a movie based on a meme that actually put Karens on a SYMPATHETIC light! I mean, seriously, that woman almost seemed justified in her actions when you look at the couple she's trying to antagonize. They antagonize themselves. Unforgivable.
I feel like if they leaned on either side of spectrum and made a couple of tweaks it would have actually been an interesting movie If they made the protagonists likable and Karen appear as a master planner that might even use her brashness to appear dummer than she actually is you could make an interesting horror(also making them face every day racism would add to the tone and message) On the other hand You could justify Karen's actions, make it from her perspective as she desperately tries to connect with her neighbors but they attack her every time she just tries to live her life (obviously in this version you take out the racism in order to not justify it) But instead they went with an in between where all the main characters are unlikable and unrealistic
yes and he is the racist one now. Candace Owen who is black would be ashamed of his behavior. This needs to stop from both people because the poor kids who are half black and half white like me are disgusted by black mainly now. They are acting like the white people did in the 60s. And some white people were still kind to the blacks in the 60s. This garbage is what will make white people racist against blacks. I am hating some people behavior and I am their color. The blacks are racist to me because I look more white. I never got hurt by white people. Only darker tan people.
I also believe it is mainly because blacks will always be jealous of white people. They are hotter and more classy. Candace Owen is a great example that any color can be classy it is how you hold yourself. Nothing about color.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real you could make a story presented from Karen's perspective in which she seems to be the good guy and the neighbors seem to be freaks that do everything in their hands to piss her off. The plot twist is that they never actually did those things, were just seeing it through her eyes and her distorted view of reality.
I HATED the confederate flag reveal It just seemed like a cheap scapegoat. Like racists don’t have to be from the south or have a relation to the confederacy. Racism isn’t always that loud and obvious. Racism can be an actual Karen in HR going through job applications and going “Trayvon? That sounds…ethnic” and into the trash bin that application goes, despite being perfectly qualified for the job. But no this movie says you can only be racist if you love the confederacy, completely neutering the very real terror of racism and that is ANYONE CAN BE RACIST IF THEY ARENT CAREFUL AND CHECK THEMSELVES, but don’t worry, white people NOT from the south! You good!! No confederate flags = not a racist GOD I’m so mad
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access so what you’re saying is that them having one woman in a really bad dumb movie use the confederate flag they’re saying all racists use the confederate flag? Is that not a bit of a stretch? Like jumping to a rather large conclusion?
My grandmas name is Karen, she’s had no rest since the Karen meme emerged. What’s worse is that she has short hair (it’s not the Karen cut, but it’s still short hair).
My wife is a black Moroccan woman, she’s never been a victim and she was incredibly insulted by this movie and this media narrative that black people need to be “saved” by whites/people in power. She’s a real strong black woman, but doesn’t shout it out at every single opportunity.
I sure do love when Hollywood takes very real and heartbreaking issues we face in America today and creates cringey cash grabs. Truly a masterpiece of Cinemaaaaawe.
@BONE We did it boys. Racism is no more. Mr. BONE says it's just the media manipulating our dumb little brains to believe that racism actually exists, so it HAS to be true. 🥴
I knew this movie was gonna terrible when this story was based on a meme. It’s so dated that it’s actually laughable. Needless to say, this review is gold.
This movie is walking proof that a lot of people don’t even get what the Karen meme was actually about. “Karen” ≠ racist white woman A racist white woman can be a Karen, but being a Karen is a specific entitled attitude of justifying aggressive uncalled for confrontational behavior by conflating it with assertiveness, all caused by a minor or nonexistent inconvenience. Karen is usually depicted as a white middle/upper class suburban blonde woman, but doesn’t have to be. The whole ‘Karen = racist white woman’ myth is just started by a bunch of out of touch or culturally illiterate activists who don’t understand the meme, and just wish to use it to push their agenda.
The meme was literally popularized after a black man had the police sicced on him after telling a white woman to leash their dog in central park as it was roaming free against the rules of central park, it absolutely can be used as a insult towards racist and/or entitled white women.
I have to ask this as a black person. Why do these black characters care so much about being black? They aren't culturally black. Either, African American or just simply Africa. They're lifestyles are appropriated to that of traditional American cultural behaviors. Basically, they act white. For example, their accents and dialects are the same as other white characters in the film. Except Karen who has a southern dialect. They dress similar to their white counterparts as well. So, why do they always talk about being black?
Exactly, I'm actually African but I can't criticize the Black Panther movie without a Black American explaining identity politics to me. Most of them actually haven't ever been to Africa
This is definitely one of the best comedies of all time. I love this film way more than The Room. The trailer for this film is absolutely brilliant. That SNL skit made me cringe so badly. I feel so bad for women actually called Karen.
the movie could have been interesting if it had a twist at the end with Karen being reasonable and nice the entire movie and the couple was overacting and we had been seeing everything from there point of view the entire movie
@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle It would have been more realistic :p Or if the movie hadn't made her into a mustache twirling villain and just kept her as an obnoxious and entitled brat that doesn't understand black people and hates them for perceived slights. Like if she had lost out to a black kid for a scholarship when she was younger and her resentment grew over time and she blamed the kid for all her following trouble. She wouldn't realize until the end that she really only had herself to blame and maybe she would see what a horrible person all that anger and resentment made her. Then at least we might have gotten a happy ending. Kind of like the end of a Christmas Carol. I like the idea of people putting aside their differences and getting to know each other as individuals :)
Wow. I think this movie should win a Razzie Award for 2021's Most Unintentionally Overall-Offensive Movie. They really should have had Caitlin Reilly as the Karen consultant in both the writing room and on set.
Cynical is a liberal making fun of liberals that he agrees with, you can't be a liberal and not support the narrative that all white people are racist and evil, Europe and and America are destroying earth with pollution (ignoring china and India) and if you don't like dating a transexual than you are a transphobic.
I feel bad for women named Karen who are genuinely nice people. I know of two older ladies named Karen in real life who are amazing and are nothing like the description of this "Meme Karen." Is it too much to expect to have a nuanced conversation about race and racism like in the film "Guess Whose Coming to Dinner"? The only way I could have seen this film working is if they hammed it up and made it more of an edgy comedy. The Karen character will go crazy and the African American cast will go "Can you believe this crazy woman?", and then go about their day. Make whatever scheme Karen pulls either blow up in her face or if they do "suceed" they don't get the reaction out of African American cast that she wants. Have the comedy come from Karen's crazy behavior and over-the-top actions be regarded as minor inconveniences by African American cast. They can get the point across and give some edgy humor that can entertain as well.
“Oh my god babe, is that a camera?” “Yeah, it’s a camera. Pointed right at us. Probably filming us.” “Oh no she’s filming our home.” Deadass how half the dialogue sounds 😭
"There's only so much realism this movie can take, after all." Porn has become far more realistic in depicting actual relationships and scenarios than movies like this that are trying to satirize certain heavily publicized subjects and fail miserably EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! I miss George A. Romero - his sociopolitical horror classics may not be subtle, but they certainly were more successful in nuance and allegory!!!
They made the character smoke illegally, and then had him get arrested for it. But only because he was framed by the officer for the thing he's established as doing??? Are you sure this isn't a parody?
I would have loved to hear Karen's other brilliant jokes. "I see you're emancipating those pickles from the jar." "How do you like your coffee? Black?" "You're making bread for the neighborhood cookout? Huh, I guess black loafs don't matter after all..."
I feel like something I've noticed is that whenever a woman is literally violently racist, she often just gets laughed off as a Karen, when it's actually extremely damaging to the victim of that situation. We need to stop trivializing situations where people actually get hurt as something ridiculous.
I really wish the entertainment industry will realize that meme culture doesn't translate well to the big and small screen. It comes off as cringe and it dates the movie/show because we're already on to the next memes by the time it comes out.
the concept of this as a horror movie could be actually fun. just have the Karen in the movie be kind of an asshole, and Bad Things happen in an increasing rate, and in the end, after you have Karen brought to justice, you reveal that the mastermind wasn't her - it was another lady whose middle name is Karen! as a teen slasher movie, this could be hilarious. or just hilariously bad.
This movie couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a dark comedy exploiting a meme or a gritty drama about the serious issue of racism and so tried to be both, ending up as neither. Hence such lazy adherence to the Karen stereotype in the first place: e.g. her hair is a bit long and lacks the blonde highlights and the main issue about her is racism; sure, the Karen stereotype is a racist but more so she is a classist and disrespectful towards service staff of all races including her own and there was barely any of that in this film. Cynical makes a similar point at 4:17
At the razzies it was nominated for Worst Picture Worst Director Worst Screenplay Worst Actress for Taryn Manning Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off, or Sequel for being a inadvertent remake of Cruella
That whole argument scene in the house was just painful to watch. It looks like they just took your average Twitter argument and wrote a script out of it.
I'm also confused about that scene being the couple's "Breaking point" between Karen. I mean she has literally been watching them and having a descending opinion is where they drew the line
I am far from being an expert on racism, much less the American version of it. But, I found particularly cringe that the example of racism that they choose to portrait is a mustache twirling totally self aware open racist. That may make (stupid) people believe that there are two states, open self aware racism and nothing. As a matter of fact, the Black couple seems more than real racist people, they dislike their White neighbor almost inmediatly, try and fail, to be friendly and later avoid and do small things to incordiate her. It only happens that she deserves it, for plot reasons that the couple have not way to know.
IMO, the worst thing about it was that, having written this stereotypical racist character (which isn't a problem in itself - some people are exactly that stereotypical), they then try to give her a backstory where she was, what, traumatised by black people in the past? I mean, that's messed up in itself, but with her being such a stereotype, it's weird that they don't give her the most stereotypical background for a racist. Racists are far more likely to be people who've had very *little* firsthand experience with minorities, who are fed lies and stereotypes to them by trusted family or news sources and don't have any reason to doubt them.
@@leahdavis9434 - Would black people avoiding white people out of generational trauma move into a predominantly white neighbourhood at great personal expense though? I also just wouldn't give this movie credit like that. It's not a realistic movie at any point, so if I'm presented with something that *could* be very realistic, but could also just be sloppy writing/direction... I'm going to assume it's sloppy writing/direction. From that angle, the couple are suspicious of Karen because Karen is the villain of the movie. That's all. The movie doesn't want us to be unsure about whether she's a bad person for even a second, even if it means making its protagonists seem like assholes.
@@leahdavis9434 Then why would they willingly move into that neighbourhood? Also, I've never met anyone who intentionally avoids white people because of "trauma." Admittedly I don't live in the US tho
I just thought about this, but I think this movie could have been actually good if it was set in the perspective of Karen's daughter. The movie as it is now is more about BLM then actual Karens. So if set in the perspective of the daughter, it allows us to see what it is like growing up with an entitled mother, how that is embarrassing for the child, and the child's journey to learning that these things are not okay. The black couple moving in and the mother being racist towards them can then serve as the final straw for the daughter, with the climax having the daughter take the side of her neighbors instead of her mother's side. Now, it is primarily about entitlement (the core thing about Karens) instead of racism, it shows us how they are damaging from multiple angles, and has a lead which goes through actual character development.
This is a great point. If the movie was centered on the daughter and then a black family moves in and that family had a child the same age as the Karen’s daughter, that would have been interesting. Imagine scenes where the Karen is bitching about stereotypical things while the daughter is listening. Like the Central American/Mexican construction worker trope and the Karen is calling them r@pists. Or saying Asian people can’t drive mid traffic while taking the daughter to school, insulting ethnic foods at school culture day and then the black family moves in and the Karen’s daughter accidentally says something racist to their son or daughter and starts to learn just how horrible and toxic her mother is. And just for depth of character, give the Karen some back story, not to make her sympathetic, but to show how racism and entitlement are taught and can be generational if the cycle is not broken.
How did this go from her getting the husband arrested to then trying to straight up murder the neighbor? With her own gun? Not even the cop brother could cover that up. Plus she never did anything that bad to her...
I was thinking the woman playing Karen sounded and looked a bit familiar, and like one of the women on OITNB. Turns out it's actually her, Taryn Manning. They really like putting her in roles of shitty people lol.
This is actually a great demonstration of what's wrong with the entertainment industry nowadays. Rather than trying to *entertain* people, they do films with messages they think are currently favoured by the public, which in their minds is represented by twitter.
11:03 I swear, that's just... if I had gone into this blind and you would have told me this part is satire, I would have believed you. In what universe is that romantic dialogue?
And this was a 2021 release? God, that feels both unbelievable yet totally believable at the same time. Next thing you know, we're going to be getting a feature length about simps and incels.
@@T1MAGEDDON I’m mean didn’t they already make an incel movie called Cuck back in 2019? I was about some racist loner who angry at women for not dating him.
What was the movie with Samuel Jackson where he was a crazy, racist old man and he spent the entire time harassing an interracial couple? How does a movie so long ago, that I don't think was even trying to have a message to it, handle suburban racism better than something that's going out of its way to force an agenda? Oh right, because it had an agenda. It's like Get Out trying to have a message, where all it amounted to was, "Oh boy, black people sure feel awkward around white people." If you wanted a horror movie based on racism, just film yourself going through twitter for a bit. You'll get both in spades and you can have the caveat of saying it's Found Footage and "Based on a true story" that horror movies like to do.
This is my guess. The director wanted to make a film about racism (which frankly is unappealing as entertainment to people) so when the Karen gimmick arrived, he used it as bait to get his movie made and seen. I suspect this because racism isn't what makes a "Karen," a Karen is just an overly domineering and self-righteous woman. I can't really blame the guy for taking the chance when it arrived, its just a shame that he didn't make a better movie.
Dude I watched this movie and for the first at least half hour most of the altercations weren't started by her, nor were they at all racist, it was just the neighbors kind of being dicks. She literally waves to them and says "hi" when they move in and the guy looks at her like she's a fucking alien... Thought it was a horror film not a fucking comedy
Honestly, I could see a film about a black couple moving into a mostly white neighborhood and being confronted with all the small and more explicit forms of racism. All while being in a weird rivalry with their neighbors. Like there could be some small regional cultural things that they must get used to or deal with in other ways in to gain the favor of the other neighbors. Or it could turn out that the couple is a first time, first generation of homeowners. So they accidentally don't keep up with the more established families, due to lack of knowledge or habit. And the finale could include an actually dangerous racist, rather than the series of more systemic and habitual issues that they have dealt with so far. I don't know, just spitballing here.
I think some movies with that premise do exist. I know various tv shows have done this. The concept itself isn't bad. But the execution for the karen movie is bafflingly awful.
But that would require an American screenwriter to give a shit about doing a good job. Can't have that, now can we? And then they wonder why they're being replaced by GPT-4...
@@Moonlitwatersofaquashit, _The Munsters_ did it, and did it with a level of subtlety and tact that actually helped it get its message across to white audiences who probably wouldn't have paid attention if it had been done differently.
This movie does not understand the meaning of the word “subtle.” It kills whatever message it might be trying to say by being so cartoonishly over the top about it.
So I live in Georgia and grew up in the area that I think this neighborhood/town is supposed to be based around. My neighborhood was full of Karens and had a tyrannical HOA and all that. Any people of color who moved into the neighborhood would be harassed, their houses would be vandalized, and they would be targeted by the HOA (I remember a family getting in trouble for putting their last name, Martinez, on their mailbox and white people getting away with the same thing). Also, we weren't far from places where the fucking Klan would rally and I have no doubt that there were members living in my neighborhood. There is SO MUCH that happens in real life that this movie could've used but from what I've seen, it looks like they just guessed what it would be like instead of actually talking to people who have been in that situation.
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EDIT: So apparently the guy giving the speech towards the end of the film is a famous civil rights lawyer in the US whose worked on cases such as George Floyd's. Not being from the US, I wouldn't have known that. I decided to remove the small part of the video questioning who he is, just because it feels a little disrespectful. I do still wish they'd made it clear who he is for people who wouldn't know (which they never do in the film), and it doesn't change the fact that the movie directly contradicts the speech they have him give.
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Tat should be thoughtful psychological horror and not that. With not a cartoonish villain being the star. Like rosmaries baby, where you dont get what rosmary goes through in anxiety.
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Ok so I dont want to be an asshole.
Im just saying this because you might not know or it might have been a joke I didn't understand. I've only ever heard Zumies pronounced like "zoomy's" or at least this is the first time I've heard it said like a Spanish last name.
As a black man I just find it ironically insulting that this directors idea of every day conversation between black people is that we always bring up how black we are. Being black isn't my social trait, my terms of endearment to my girlfriend do not include how "woke" we are, and id never invite a guest of another race (or honestly anyone) to my house warming party just to discuss racism thus putting them in a naturally awkward position, we can have normal conversation like anyone else. This movie is just absolutely contrived to its core to an nauseating degree
I'm a cop in the UK and 2 of my black colleagues who I am close with have said the cringiest thing they experience on the job is people trying to 'buddy' up to them and be allies in their 'struggle' against 'whiteness' and colonialism. It's almost as if they resent people assuming their entire life-outlook based solely on the colour of their skin... I think there's a word for that.
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How the fuck did we get to this point
Preaching to the choir, my good sir. (seriously, you just summarized something that not many others talk about.) I wish you a good day.
They don’t see us as normal people. We’re like aliens to them. If they actually knew random every day black people, this movie wouldn’t have even been made.
They don’t have a clue how we really are. We’re all individuals and we’re certainly not all woke Democrats that hate white people.
As much as I loathe Karens, one thing I hate about the 'Karen' meme almost as much as them, is that just like the word 'Simp', it's been overused to the point where it barely means anything anymore.
I saw this Reddit story from a Food Delivery guy. He delivered food to a house, and the daughter answered the door. When giving her the food, he was going into creepyville with her, and the daughter's mom saw it and lashed out at him. He saw it coming, and yet he tried to pass it off as a "Shut up Karen" moment, when he was being the Karen in the situation bc he's whining that he couldn't get to third base with her daughter. That's not a Karen, that's a good mom. She deserves a medal.
Is 'Karen' a slur? Absolutely not. But I hate how it's been reduced to 'Woman I don't like'.
Summed up perfectly
Exactly - I keep saying this movie feels like the death knell of slang, but it died earlier than that?
@Ren Helene just answer as caterina or something lol
@Ren Helene ...such a karen response.
It really has transformed from a cultural observation on entitled busybodies to another thought terminating cliché you can throw at people you dislike so you don´t actually have to engage with them.
Ironically the example of a "Karen" shown from 1:45 onwards is just such an example of a misapplication of the term, though in this case used for selling outrage and not due to personal animosity. Having seen the entire video and read witness-testimony collected by the police the woman was perfectly understandable in her reaction, as the person filming the encounter had been in a previous altercation with her, after which he followed her through the park trying to lure her dog with food, stating he would take it away, which explains why she is so forceful in trying to keep the dog close to her.
The weird part is that this Karen seems to know she's racist when the meme Karen is not selfaware enough to see her inherent racism. The fact that meme Karen actually believes she isn't racist is what makes that brand more insidious.
Like...who is this movie for? It seems like no one wants to claim it.
Being a Karen has nothing whatsoever to do with racism. It's entitlement, which takes many forms and can have many results.
... Though you are correct in that real Karens act the way they do because they lack self-awareness, which is one of many things this movie gets wrong.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 While not all Karens are racist, some of them are. The kind that complain about minorities moving into wealthy neighborhoods, or vote down public transportation reform because "public transportation means poor people, and poor people are criminals." And of course the connection with criminals and minorities is inevitable with those types of Karens. Classism and racism are part of the mentality of lower upper class moral watchdogs.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 that's true. I just think in this case they were trying parody bbq karen the park lady with the poodle. It just doesn't come across very authentically.
Though i agree that being a Karen is more about entitlement than anything else.
My grandmas name is Karen, and I would have you know she is a very nice lady.
i said this on deangelo wallace's video abt the trailer for this, but the way theyve pigeonholed the karen character as completely evil and remorseless and self aware just hurts the movie and also the audience watching it.
like its so easy for a bunch of middle aged racist white women to see her and say 'oh well im not as bad as HER, so i must not be racist/terrible!' imagine how much better this movie could have been if they had created a character with enough depth and subtlety to make ppl scrutinize their own subconscious racism. what a wasted opportunity.
18:25 They really gave this character enormous Africa-shaped earrings because how else would we know she’s proud of being black?
And of course, even the African symbolism had to be lazy and mean absolutely nothing except the physical geography-because a pan-African unionist flag wouldn't have flown with the FCC and any artifacts or symbols of any specific real-world African culture would have gone right over the heads of their intended audience.
I’ve actually seen those earrings around ngl
@@Lov3lyDaysame
Help my aunt wears those earrings
Ngl they’re kinda cute
“You know, racial tensions are really at an all time high lately, so let’s make a movie that will make them even more angry at one another!”
Lets also get angry at a woman for scrubbing racialy tribalistic chalk drawings on a driveway done by kids who dont know the brainwashing they are being exposed to. Karen was RIGHT to scrub it away - especially since we know what that trash org is all about. F'n joke! Plus they talk about being held "captive" by this nation. Yet they are all well educated and own a nice home. WHY BLACK AFRICANS THINK BLACK AMERICANS ARE UNGRATEFUL AND ENTITLED. Go see how well life would turn out for you where your own rule ya affirmative action piles of shit!
Let The Poors™ fight it out among themselves so their multicultural band of billionaire rulers can go back to partying at Sealand with Epstein's wife.
“racism is when one person is a meanie” -this movie
Pretty much.
We've done it! We've stopped Racism!
"Well...the internet has gone to absolute pot all over again."
- me after finding out this movie exists
This actually angers me more than it probably should, but it's always the same shit in these pieces of media who want the brownie points for talking about racism without actually talking about anything ! "It's just a few individual rotten apples who just happen to be a bit racist" - WRONG ! It's a ton of varying, often subconsciously followed systems and routines that together rig larger systems against any minority who you can easly perceive as being a minority at first glance ! And that's coming from me, a heterosexual white male from Germany who has never had any personal connections, let alone problems, with racism - and it still even annoys ME out of all people !
@@shawklan27 Well boys we did it, racism is no more 👏
I think this movie is the only time talking to the manager is approved cus I sure want to talk to whoever made this movie
"I want to talk to the CEO of Hollywood!"
@@CynicalReviews And sue them for giving me brain cancer from this movie!
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@@CynicalReviews Ah yes, john hollywood himself.
Not going to lie, that dramatic "racist soap" moment made me laugh pretty hard.
I've been laughing at that since the trailer came out.
Especially since a real Karen would be more likely to yell at store management for stocking stuff like that than buy one herself.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Yes, thank you. I've heard "Karen" used to descrive women who refuse to wear masks, and used to describe women who order people to wear masks. I'm wondering if "Karen" is low-key misogyny aimed at any woman who has an opinion.
@@NJGuy1973 I think it's more about abrasive women that have entitlement complexes and nag others and take irrational actions because of it.
@@Unknown-hb3id This. They're that one kid on the playground who doesn't like the rules or the game everyone else is enjoying, so demands it change to suit them better personally. And when that doesn't happen, they go crying to a teacher with lies about how cruel and unfair everyone was for excluding her. Then the fun is ruined.
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'Slaving away in the kitchen' line gave me whole range of emotions
I admit, I'd probably say something stupid like that--completely unaware of any connotations. Then it'd probably dawn on me and I'd apologize so profusely that she'd forgive me right away while laughing her ass off.
Because that's how human beings work when they're not in cults.
@@unimpartialobserver Why apologize? "Slaving away" is just a term used to describe someone who is hard at work.
The whole "If you don't like it then you can go back" argument is actually a really weird one(using this as a Segway to talk about cool history stuff, I don't agree with the statement obv), but also kinda historically interesting. Mainly because it already happened, Around 1816 there was this whole movement of People who believed it would be best for African Americans to have their own colony away from prejudice caused by ideas racial supremacy, as well as southern slave owners wanting them gone so currently enslaved people wouldn't get ideas about being free from the already freed slaves. Eventually (I'm oversimplifying a lot, serious research this cause its fascinating) around 4,000 free black people and 7,000 slaves who agreed to go in exchange for their freedom emigrated to what is now known as Libera, and actually ended up enslaving the local African population in Liberia to serve them.
Man,
this could have been good for spreading Awareness of the Karen-Trope,
which in turn would literally (and i aint joking) help Humanity become more healthy, in my opinion...
In another note, isnt that kinda what they did with european jews after WW2 by sending them to Israel?
@@project-gladiator Not really since the Jewish people wanted Israel for its religious significance
Glad to see Dhar Mann is stepping up to writing actual films
Racist Karen discriminates against black neighbors, you won't believe what happens next
If Heterochromia Lady starred in this movie, I might have actually gone to see it! XD
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@@LirylCrovyn Who's that?
@@johnoconnell5004 I don't know her real name, but there's an actress with heterochromia who often plays Karens in Dhar Mann videos.
As someone black I was laughing when I saw the trailer for this like surely this is some stupid TH-cam parody movie and uh nope it's not. They do so bad at making Karen an actual villian and in the end we end up hating the "innocent" main characters who are equally just as terrible. Just yikes. Lovely to watch you review this trash fire.
Same. Then I saw that BET logo and had a "N×GGA WHAT" moment to pierce the heavens.
@@viscountrainbows6452 bet hasn't been "BET" for quite some time now
Viscount Rainbows Isn’t BET not owned by black people and hasn’t been for a while?
"... main characters who are equally just as terrible" But isn't this the equality everyone is craving for? see, the black people were just as unlikable as the white ones ^^
@@solarmoth4628 precisely why I am doubly taken aback that this is not omly sincere but also part of the greater divisive psyop.
The meme Karen is about entitlement and lack of self awareness. It can be racist but it does not have to be. And this Karen was too aware of herself. This movie did not get it whatsoever and that is just peak hollywood right here.
Ironically, this movie is peak Karen, irritating everyone with no shred of self awareness
No, it's just another in a long line of politically acceptable slurs that are used to defame white people.
Part of the problem is we obfuscate, we rationalize and we try to be reasonable while the society these people are making rages, kills and hopes to exterminate our people. 😀
Make no mistake: "Karen", "Nazi" and all the rest are slurs used to rob whites of our humanity and justify our destruction.
@@benjaminwhitaker2484 The fuck are you talking about? The Karen memes are popular and laughed at by white people too, stop trying so hard to be oppressed.
@@benjaminwhitaker2484 My god all that white supremacy propaganda has really dragged you down in some weird fantasy world where white people are oppressed instead of the dominant race on the planet that literally oppresses everyone else. But if you watch fox news and infowars 24/7 then you will feel under attack certainly. Even though reality is that we are just trying to fight racism a little bit. Because if a Karen calls the police, she might face a bit of social stigma but the black person might get killed. And that is the reality. And it is funny that you think that people should not think of Nazis as bad. That tells you everything we need to know about you.
@@PapasGatito Black people laugh at black jokes so I guess they're not "racist"?
Oh......
You might be interested in data concerning "self-hatred" and out group preference amongst whites (higher than any other two races combined) before using "whites laugh too" as an argument.
Also you might want to look up the definition of "oppressed" before you speak for me, k?
“She’s a ‘Karen’ NAMED Karen. It’s like God KNEW she was gonna be evil.”
…Are you implying that God named her? 🤨
Free will only exists when it's convenient.
Gotta explain why evil exists and bad things happen? Free will exists!
Surgeons saved your life with science and skill? Thank only god, not the surgeons, because free will doesn't exist!
God with a horrible sense of humour
As suppose to her parents?
It's settled. Karen was the second coming of Jesus.
That made NO sense. 😂
20:17, Wait, this girl has a BOYFRIEND? She looks like she can't even be out of Middle School yet. Did anyone else notice this?
The absurdity of the human race and what they make with it will never cease to amaze me
I just came from watching Saber Spark's worst animated movies video... Yeah.
Indeed, I can't believe that a table full of writers, producers and executives greenlit and approved of this project!
Cue the new Fortnite and Naruto crossover…
And worst part of it, we are all part of said race
It’s almost like this movie was created by someone who wanted to vent their frustration and hatred out towards everyone
I feel bad for people named Karen who are kind and good people. They are stuck with being associated with a bunch of idiots that were posted online, and were lucky enough to become meme's.
They should change their names. Maybe Adolf? Or Isis? I've heard they're totally normal not loaded at all names!
I had to explain to my mother-in-law Karen what “a Karen” is. Her life is dedicated to providing aid to refugees in our city and working to ensure that the system doesn’t overlook vulnerable people. I felt awful explaining to her why people she knew were making fun of her for her name.
@@havendidit that is so heartbreaking. :(
I do too. Whenever I think of the name Karen, I always think of the teacher I had in grade 7 in elementary school. She was very nice to everyone. Like I remember when it was her birthday, she could of said nothing and just made it a regular school day but instead, she decided to take me and my class for ice cream and bought all the students ice cream. I never forgot that. I even remembered during the last days of school, when you get the paper suggesting what high schools to choose from, I was going to choose my best friend's school at the time but then my teacher said suggested a different one and told me some more things about it so I ended up choosing that one and because of her, that high school she chose, it made learning for me so much easier and got me into college.
@@lapsedgoth Thankfully she didn't seem too shaken or upset by it, probably cause she had much bigger things to focus on and worry about. I felt terrible explaining it to her though.
The fact that this went through multiple boards of people and editors and it still got made is baffling
What I find weird is that it was written by a black guy.
@@jibekmechler139 I don't really think that's relevant in reality. This could have been written by anyone with the same degree of ignorance and ineptitude.
@@collodion1884 it is relevant, because you would assume that a black man wouldn't be so tone deaf. It would almost make sense for someone who wasn't a poc to not know wtf they was talking about
No it didn't, it's an independent film lol, no one had to approve its creation
@@JohnRapheal7 I see what you mean but at the same time not every black person has advanced knowledge of racism and personal experience with it.
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That "HEY WHAT THE FUCK" caught me off guard
Kinda wanna see that video just to see the shenanigans that lemon tree will cause
Lmao the iconic, weirdly authentic outrage
Oh God!!!! This film really exists? "You are a strong, beautiful, intelligent and woke black man!" I'm half Irish and half Polish so I'm as white as white gets and therefore have no experience on how black people speak to one another behind closed doors....But fuck man, I know a billion percent it's not like this lol
I've got black mates who I go drinking with from time to time and I've never heard them use the word 'black' during conversations. They just generally, you know, speak like everyone else, talk about the weather, the football, a new film or music track that's coming out, this film makes it sound like all black people only use about 5 words and 3 of those are the word black lol It wouldn't surprise me me if this film actually offends more POC than it endears to.
"What happened to Karen's two kids?"
Obviously they'll be back in the sequel *KAREN'S REVENGE*
Karen 2:Revenge of Kids
It's like that fighting game, Karen's Revenge
This time, it's personal.
seed of karen
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If you think this movie was funny, you all should read the interview the director (Coke Daniels, a black man) gave for making this movie. He called it a "feel good film". *eye rolls into the ninth dimension*.
Please tell me his name is legitimately "Coke" and you didn't just misspell "Cole"
@@visassess8607 it actually is coke
@@visassess8607 yes like whaat, also it got pointed out in the video too😂
*cue the face palming meme*
Jesus...
"points" for the incredible "subtlety" of the Africa earrings, scarf and bowtie with african patterns, if they didn't add those incredibly inconspicuous details, I would've never guessed!
These scarfs and bowties do look amazing, such a shame they were made dirty by being in this movie.
@@petrfedor1851 irl they look great, although in movies it feels like the director is screaming "LOOK AT THIS CHARACTER! HE IS BLAAAACK! I'M INCLUSIVE! LOOK AT HOW INCLUSIVE I AM!!!"
Well i guess that makes them African and not African American
Wait, hold up... Are you suggesting... that these characters are Black? I need to go check...
Holy shit, you're right! Those characters really are actual Black people! I never would have noticed that subtle detail if you hadn't pointed it out. Thanks!
Oh God I'm getting Bruno flash backs
Wait, so Karen's daughter has a black boyfriend? How old is this girl supposed to be? Because, she doesn't look a day over 10!
By the way, this movie was originally going to be even LESS subtle; Karen's last name in the final cut of the movie was "Drexler," but originally it was going to be (I kid you not) "White"! I'm surprised they didn't consider naming her Karen Cracker or Karen Honky!
My best friend’s mom is named Karen, she’s a hardworking single mom of five who’s trying to get a medical degree. why she has to be associated with the other Karens is beyond me
"Karen" may work as an opening joke for a dramedy which is actually about manager and employees being held hostage by a robber, it really can't carry a movie on its own.
Hmm. What if the Karen was the robber? Don't know where to go with this, but it seems interesting
@@emerald_espeon
Maybe Karen gets a redemption arc by shouting at the robber for making her miss her appointments distracting him long enough for the manager to grab his rifle.
@@Alias_Anybody
They're assaulted by generic terrorists and Karen saves the day by demanding to speak to their leader and being like "you call that an explosive vest? My son makes explosive vests down in Portland, he could show you a thing or two about-" until the leader just blows himself up because it means he won't have to listen to her anymore and the day is saved.
@@CruelestChris I've said it before: the government should send an army of Karens to North Korea, demand to speak to the manager. The Kim family will abdicate in a week.
I hope this gets franchised and we get shitty sequels like Karen in space and Karen in the hood
yesss, let's gooo
Karenado
I'd pay good money for Karen in the hood lmao
Well that sounds funny, I hate these people to get money based on crap. I encourage if people make fun movies like that to have money for more!
The Night of the Living Karens II: The Electric Boogaloo
The more time passes, the more The Room truly seems like a good movie written by professionals. Still fun to drink to
The Room is good by comparison because it had heart. Movies like this are bad because its only motive is greed.
@@Vollification Troll 2, Plan 9...
Most So Bad it's Good films have heart in them and you can tell they were trying. This? This is just irresponsible and stupid.
@@NebLleb I love Plan 9 :D
Movies so bad they are good are often very warm in a way. They want to entertain, tell a story or don't take themselves seriously.
"Karen" is a movie that seems like it takes itself seriously, if it's supposed to be a form of satire, I don't see it.
It would have been so much better if it had been some kind of redemption arc where Karen go from being angry and bitter to wholesome and happy.
Or a plot twist where Karen seems like a standard Karen at first but surprise surprise, it turns out the manager was the villain all along.
Or an over the top comedy with a group of Karens on a never ending quest to find a manager only to find out that maybe the real manager was the friends they made along the way :)
The only thing I see in this movie is "hate" essentially. "Some people are just plain evil and deserve to die." It is shoehorned political messages trying to cash in on a meme. A Karen is tragic and silly. This "Karen" is just plain evil that do evil things for the sake of being evil.
It's like portraying the village idiot as an evil dragon that needs to be slayed.
You guys are so close to understanding that the room is just unironically good.
The Room is and will remain a masterpiece
Award fact
Karen was nominated for 5 Razzies last year for Worst Picture, Director & Screenplay for Coke Daniels, Actress for Taryn Manning and Remake/Sequel for being an inadvertent remake of Cruella starring Emma Stone.
The first 4 lost to Diana: The Musical and the last one to Space Jam: A New Legacy (respectively)
As a retail worker I HATE how overused the Karen meme is and how it got turned into a thing about racism. It wasn't. It was an entitled bitchy lady throwing a fit at retail workers over things that don't matter. That's it. Karens can be any color. And now it's been ruined and turned into a thing that it isn't. It's also now just used to shut down women you don't want to deal with so it's almost become misogynistic which is fun.
It's like this movie was written by an AI that spent a week machine learning on twitter. It's actually amazing just how it fails at EVERY SINGLE aspect of what it was trying to do. It has to be seen to be believed.
So much storytelling potential, WASTED!!!
Friend: "What’s your cat like?"
Karen: "She's black."
Friend: "Oh my god!"
Friend: "what's your car like?"
Karen: "It's black"
Friend: "Oh my god"
Friend: “What’s your coffee like?”
Karen: “It’s black.”
Friend: “Oh my god…!”
Friend: "What's your hair like?"
Karen: "It's black."
Friend: "Oh my god"
@@unimpartialobserver Friend: "What's the beans on your burrito like?"
Karen: "It's black."
Friend: "Oh my god...!"
Friend: "What's your favorite Pearl Jam song?"
Karen: It's "Black".
Friend: "Oh my God..."
I like how everyone is an asshole, but since Karen is well... Karen, she’s the villain
You can make a good story where everyone is an asshole but there is a villain,,, but you know, it isn’t a good story
@@janahijoori5719 That's most horror movies, let's be real.
I can't believe a black director made a movie based on a meme that actually put Karens on a SYMPATHETIC light! I mean, seriously, that woman almost seemed justified in her actions when you look at the couple she's trying to antagonize. They antagonize themselves. Unforgivable.
I feel like if they leaned on either side of spectrum and made a couple of tweaks it would have actually been an interesting movie
If they made the protagonists likable and Karen appear as a master planner that might even use her brashness to appear dummer than she actually is you could make an interesting horror(also making them face every day racism would add to the tone and message)
On the other hand
You could justify Karen's actions, make it from her perspective as she desperately tries to connect with her neighbors but they attack her every time she just tries to live her life (obviously in this version you take out the racism in order to not justify it)
But instead they went with an in between where all the main characters are unlikable and unrealistic
@@airplanes_aren.t_real Ah, if only script writers had any semblance of nuance or realism in their scripts…
yes and he is the racist one now. Candace Owen who is black would be ashamed of his behavior. This needs to stop from both people because the poor kids who are half black and half white like me are disgusted by black mainly now. They are acting like the white people did in the 60s. And some white people were still kind to the blacks in the 60s.
This garbage is what will make white people racist against blacks. I am hating some people behavior and I am their color. The blacks are racist to me because I look more white. I never got hurt by white people. Only darker tan people.
I also believe it is mainly because blacks will always be jealous of white people. They are hotter and more classy. Candace Owen is a great example that any color can be classy it is how you hold yourself. Nothing about color.
@@airplanes_aren.t_real you could make a story presented from Karen's perspective in which she seems to be the good guy and the neighbors seem to be freaks that do everything in their hands to piss her off. The plot twist is that they never actually did those things, were just seeing it through her eyes and her distorted view of reality.
20:30 why the hells a little girl that age have a boyfriend of any kind?
I HATED the confederate flag reveal
It just seemed like a cheap scapegoat. Like racists don’t have to be from the south or have a relation to the confederacy.
Racism isn’t always that loud and obvious. Racism can be an actual Karen in HR going through job applications and going “Trayvon? That sounds…ethnic” and into the trash bin that application goes, despite being perfectly qualified for the job.
But no this movie says you can only be racist if you love the confederacy, completely neutering the very real terror of racism and that is ANYONE CAN BE RACIST IF THEY ARENT CAREFUL AND CHECK THEMSELVES, but don’t worry, white people NOT from the south! You good!! No confederate flags = not a racist
GOD I’m so mad
Thank you I was gonna say something but ya beat me to it but thank you
But how can we as moviemakers showcase how ebil our antagonist is if we don’t make it cartoonishly obvious?!
When did the film say that? Real question
@@hollyro4665
By the main protagonist showing the Karen and her brother with a bunch of confederate paraphernalia in her bathroom. It was *so lame*
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access so what you’re saying is that them having one woman in a really bad dumb movie use the confederate flag they’re saying all racists use the confederate flag? Is that not a bit of a stretch? Like jumping to a rather large conclusion?
Let me tell as someone who is black, if the movie is trying to make me hate the “villain”, the movie failed. In fact I actually root for her.
Nothing more amusing than a failed virtue signal.
@@scapegoatmiller9110 Don't forget "woke" too!!
@@scapegoatmiller9110 I feel like once the meme hits Hollywood, it's goddamn over.
Also, as another black person, this doesn't help - *at all.*
@@scapegoatmiller9110 you forgot beautiful, collège educated and socially aware.
@@scapegoatmiller9110 This is exactly why black people need much more roles and depictions in media, because they're only ever shown one of two ways
The most Karen part of this movie is the way she runs away after tipping the trash can.
My grandmas name is Karen, she’s had no rest since the Karen meme emerged. What’s worse is that she has short hair (it’s not the Karen cut, but it’s still short hair).
My wife is a black Moroccan woman, she’s never been a victim and she was incredibly insulted by this movie and this media narrative that black people need to be “saved” by whites/people in power.
She’s a real strong black woman, but doesn’t shout it out at every single opportunity.
I’m from MISSISSIPPI and I was offended! They made black people look like oppressed victims
They probably need real life experiences with Karen's to make this more horrifying.
Work retail for a few years, then write this movie.
Wouldn't been better as a documentary, but popular thing must mean money grab right?
It wouldn't be hard to make a Karen movie
Yeah, let the writer job at fast food for a few months, that´s where you can experience Karrens in their natural habitat harassing starving wage staff
@@crackedemerald4930 Oh, it's not hard to make a Karen movie. Where it's hard is making a good one.
I sure do love when Hollywood takes very real and heartbreaking issues we face in America today and creates cringey cash grabs. Truly a masterpiece of Cinemaaaaawe.
@BONE oh shut up.
@@idknamesarehard7119 Damn. I'm so sorry that happened to you and your family.
@BONE yea cus us black folks cant think for ourselves and need the media to tell us that racism exists in America 😑
@BONE because racist don't actually exist.....
@BONE We did it boys. Racism is no more. Mr. BONE says it's just the media manipulating our dumb little brains to believe that racism actually exists, so it HAS to be true. 🥴
I knew this movie was gonna terrible when this story was based on a meme. It’s so dated that it’s actually laughable. Needless to say, this review is gold.
This movie is walking proof that a lot of people don’t even get what the Karen meme was actually about.
“Karen” ≠ racist white woman
A racist white woman can be a Karen, but being a Karen is a specific entitled attitude of justifying aggressive uncalled for confrontational behavior by conflating it with assertiveness, all caused by a minor or nonexistent inconvenience.
Karen is usually depicted as a white middle/upper class suburban blonde woman, but doesn’t have to be.
The whole ‘Karen = racist white woman’ myth is just started by a bunch of out of touch or culturally illiterate activists who don’t understand the meme, and just wish to use it to push their agenda.
The meme was literally popularized after a black man had the police sicced on him after telling a white woman to leash their dog in central park as it was roaming free against the rules of central park, it absolutely can be used as a insult towards racist and/or entitled white women.
Yep
I have to ask this as a black person. Why do these black characters care so much about being black? They aren't culturally black. Either, African American or just simply Africa. They're lifestyles are appropriated to that of traditional American cultural behaviors. Basically, they act white. For example, their accents and dialects are the same as other white characters in the film. Except Karen who has a southern dialect. They dress similar to their white counterparts as well. So, why do they always talk about being black?
Exactly, I'm actually African but I can't criticize the Black Panther movie without a Black American explaining identity politics to me. Most of them actually haven't ever been to Africa
@@mistletoe3343 Nor have the actors IN the movie 😅.
"If you're black but you don't act like a black person that you shouldn't talk about being black."
Wow
Thanks Cynical for going through the pain of watching this so I don’t have to
I would say my pleasure, but...
@@CynicalReviews 🤣🤣🤦🏽♀️
This is definitely one of the best comedies of all time. I love this film way more than The Room. The trailer for this film is absolutely brilliant. That SNL skit made me cringe so badly. I feel so bad for women actually called Karen.
The trailer felt like something you'd see in Tropic Thunder.
@@CynicalReviews It really is! Nice to see you reply to this also!
F in the chat for Karen from Mean Girls.
@@CynicalReviews God that's a great movie. I need to rewatch Tropic Thunder.
the movie could have been interesting if it had a twist at the end with Karen being reasonable and nice the entire movie and the couple was overacting and we had been seeing everything from there point of view the entire movie
Like Tucker and Dale 😂
Hollywood hires only hacks these days, your idea was better, hire this person!
That kind of plot twist wouldn’t have been received well. Lol
@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle It would have been more realistic :p
Or if the movie hadn't made her into a mustache twirling villain and just kept her as an obnoxious and entitled brat that doesn't understand black people and hates them for perceived slights. Like if she had lost out to a black kid for a scholarship when she was younger and her resentment grew over time and she blamed the kid for all her following trouble. She wouldn't realize until the end that she really only had herself to blame and maybe she would see what a horrible person all that anger and resentment made her. Then at least we might have gotten a happy ending. Kind of like the end of a Christmas Carol. I like the idea of people putting aside their differences and getting to know each other as individuals :)
Ironiclly, we needed a Karen to take down the Karen movie before its inception.
Wow. I think this movie should win a Razzie Award for 2021's Most Unintentionally Overall-Offensive Movie.
They really should have had Caitlin Reilly as the Karen consultant in both the writing room and on set.
Yeah... This made my day. Love your videos ♥
Não sabia que você gostava de vídeo gringo 😀
Cynical is a liberal making fun of liberals that he agrees with, you can't be a liberal and not support the narrative that all white people are racist and evil, Europe and and America are destroying earth with pollution (ignoring china and India) and if you don't like dating a transexual than you are a transphobic.
@@breakingames7772 ?
VOCÊ TBM ASSISTE ELE Q DAORA
@@Gusta-qv2ly sarcasmo
Sarcasm
"the next thing you know you're having black babies" has some big
"What's the only thing worst than a r*pist? Boom. A child." energy
Okay hear me out, why does Karen remind me of that villain lady from Over The Hedge. Like they literally look the same ngl lol
You're right xD
They act way too similar
Quess that lady counts as a Karen
I can’t unsee it
I feel bad for women named Karen who are genuinely nice people. I know of two older ladies named Karen in real life who are amazing and are nothing like the description of this "Meme Karen."
Is it too much to expect to have a nuanced conversation about race and racism like in the film "Guess Whose Coming to Dinner"? The only way I could have seen this film working is if they hammed it up and made it more of an edgy comedy. The Karen character will go crazy and the African American cast will go "Can you believe this crazy woman?", and then go about their day. Make whatever scheme Karen pulls either blow up in her face or if they do "suceed" they don't get the reaction out of African American cast that she wants. Have the comedy come from Karen's crazy behavior and over-the-top actions be regarded as minor inconveniences by African American cast. They can get the point across and give some edgy humor that can entertain as well.
I would watch film since it would be like Tucker and Dale vs Evil.
“Oh my god babe, is that a camera?”
“Yeah, it’s a camera. Pointed right at us. Probably filming us.”
“Oh no she’s filming our home.”
Deadass how half the dialogue sounds 😭
"There's only so much realism this movie can take, after all." Porn has become far more realistic in depicting actual relationships and scenarios than movies like this that are trying to satirize certain heavily publicized subjects and fail miserably EVERY SINGLE TIME!!! I miss George A. Romero - his sociopolitical horror classics may not be subtle, but they certainly were more successful in nuance and allegory!!!
We will always have his films to remember him by.
They actually made a movie out of the Obnoxious, Entitled Housewife meme... This bodes well already!
They made it and completely misunderstood the meme. In fact, they probably just heard the meme, used it, and never looked it up...
If nothing else, at least the Karen has more of a personality than Elle Evans.
Pretty low bar there.
@@CynicalReviews you said it.
5:11
Oh, you bet your ass I'm making a clip out of that.
"Karen sits on Imani's car to establish dominance" is such a funny sentence to me 😭
They made the character smoke illegally, and then had him get arrested for it. But only because he was framed by the officer for the thing he's established as doing??? Are you sure this isn't a parody?
Stop it. You're making sense.
Woah use of two braincells when discussing racism? Not allowed!!
Its rediculously forced he shouldve been legitly arrested like why frame him in the plor if hes already fuckin doing it.
Karen doesn’t sound like a real word anymore
But those for people actually named Karen 😂
@@WolfBitesAndSleepyGraves I have a girl called Karen in my english class. Surprisingly, no one has associated her with that meme at all.
“There she is slaving in the kitchen “ had me fuckin rolling! lol
I would have loved to hear Karen's other brilliant jokes.
"I see you're emancipating those pickles from the jar."
"How do you like your coffee? Black?"
"You're making bread for the neighborhood cookout? Huh, I guess black loafs don't matter after all..."
I love the use of pc words in the middle of racist threats. Such a weird mix. Really adds to her absurdity in that dog park one.
I feel like something I've noticed is that whenever a woman is literally violently racist, she often just gets laughed off as a Karen, when it's actually extremely damaging to the victim of that situation. We need to stop trivializing situations where people actually get hurt as something ridiculous.
The day that you find out about the movie "Loqueesha" is the day I pray for your sanity
I watched it actually. Aside from its ridiculous premise, it was pretty boring. It did have a few moments, but not enough to justify a whole video.
@@CynicalReviews What about the fifty shades trilogy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mttylerdurden9 Don't do that to him.
@@jaydenklaus ok 365 days then. ,😈😈😈🤣
@@mttylerdurden9 Nooo! That's even worse!
I really wish the entertainment industry will realize that meme culture doesn't translate well to the big and small screen. It comes off as cringe and it dates the movie/show because we're already on to the next memes by the time it comes out.
I'm genuinely surprised that they didn't have Karen wear a MAGA Hat
17:37 The "black babies" line refers to (illegitimate) interracial children, as a dogwhistle for the Great Replacement conspiracy theory.
23:48 Are they trying to make this look like Jack Torrance axing his way through the door in The Shining?
Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949) made it better.
@Cynical Reviews highly suggest you give it a watch.
everybodys acting was so campy. They read the script and knew there was no way to take it seriously. They got their bag 🤣
Nobody really talks like that. I had to remind myself it wasn't satire lol
the concept of this as a horror movie could be actually fun. just have the Karen in the movie be kind of an asshole, and Bad Things happen in an increasing rate, and in the end, after you have Karen brought to justice, you reveal that the mastermind wasn't her - it was another lady whose middle name is Karen! as a teen slasher movie, this could be hilarious. or just hilariously bad.
This movie couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a dark comedy exploiting a meme or a gritty drama about the serious issue of racism and so tried to be both, ending up as neither.
Hence such lazy adherence to the Karen stereotype in the first place: e.g. her hair is a bit long and lacks the blonde highlights and the main issue about her is racism; sure, the Karen stereotype is a racist but more so she is a classist and disrespectful towards service staff of all races including her own and there was barely any of that in this film. Cynical makes a similar point at 4:17
At the razzies it was nominated for
Worst Picture
Worst Director
Worst Screenplay
Worst Actress for Taryn Manning
Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off, or Sequel for being a inadvertent remake of Cruella
7:24 imagine the other woman's reaction as sarcastic and this instantly becomes much better.
That whole argument scene in the house was just painful to watch. It looks like they just took your average Twitter argument and wrote a script out of it.
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I'm also confused about that scene being the couple's "Breaking point" between Karen. I mean she has literally been watching them and having a descending opinion is where they drew the line
Why would Princess Peach have an italian accent?
Because the sketch was written by morons who obviously know nothing about the franchise.
@@CynicalReviews Right, how could I forget?
Because SNL is actually awful to be honest.
I am far from being an expert on racism, much less the American version of it.
But, I found particularly cringe that the example of racism that they choose to portrait is a mustache twirling totally self aware open racist.
That may make (stupid) people believe that there are two states, open self aware racism and nothing.
As a matter of fact, the Black couple seems more than real racist people, they dislike their White neighbor almost inmediatly, try and fail, to be friendly and later avoid and do small things to incordiate her. It only happens that she deserves it, for plot reasons that the couple have not way to know.
Yeah black people avoiding white people isn't racism it's generational trauma but ok
IMO, the worst thing about it was that, having written this stereotypical racist character (which isn't a problem in itself - some people are exactly that stereotypical), they then try to give her a backstory where she was, what, traumatised by black people in the past? I mean, that's messed up in itself, but with her being such a stereotype, it's weird that they don't give her the most stereotypical background for a racist. Racists are far more likely to be people who've had very *little* firsthand experience with minorities, who are fed lies and stereotypes to them by trusted family or news sources and don't have any reason to doubt them.
@@leahdavis9434 - Would black people avoiding white people out of generational trauma move into a predominantly white neighbourhood at great personal expense though?
I also just wouldn't give this movie credit like that. It's not a realistic movie at any point, so if I'm presented with something that *could* be very realistic, but could also just be sloppy writing/direction... I'm going to assume it's sloppy writing/direction.
From that angle, the couple are suspicious of Karen because Karen is the villain of the movie. That's all. The movie doesn't want us to be unsure about whether she's a bad person for even a second, even if it means making its protagonists seem like assholes.
@@leahdavis9434 Then why would they willingly move into that neighbourhood? Also, I've never met anyone who intentionally avoids white people because of "trauma." Admittedly I don't live in the US tho
@@FTZPLTC
She was bitten by a radioactive Confederate flag and became super racist.
24:01
Ok, THAT was pure horror. Such a waste of good sweets T.T XD
10:46 - 11:15 😂😂😂 I couldn't stop laughing. WTF? Someone wrote that and thought, "Romantic dialogue"
I just thought about this, but I think this movie could have been actually good if it was set in the perspective of Karen's daughter.
The movie as it is now is more about BLM then actual Karens. So if set in the perspective of the daughter, it allows us to see what it is like growing up with an entitled mother, how that is embarrassing for the child, and the child's journey to learning that these things are not okay. The black couple moving in and the mother being racist towards them can then serve as the final straw for the daughter, with the climax having the daughter take the side of her neighbors instead of her mother's side.
Now, it is primarily about entitlement (the core thing about Karens) instead of racism, it shows us how they are damaging from multiple angles, and has a lead which goes through actual character development.
This is a great point. If the movie was centered on the daughter and then a black family moves in and that family had a child the same age as the Karen’s daughter, that would have been interesting. Imagine scenes where the Karen is bitching about stereotypical things while the daughter is listening. Like the Central American/Mexican construction worker trope and the Karen is calling them r@pists. Or saying Asian people can’t drive mid traffic while taking the daughter to school, insulting ethnic foods at school culture day and then the black family moves in and the Karen’s daughter accidentally says something racist to their son or daughter and starts to learn just how horrible and toxic her mother is. And just for depth of character, give the Karen some back story, not to make her sympathetic, but to show how racism and entitlement are taught and can be generational if the cycle is not broken.
@@LaFlor718Can we PLEASE turn this into an actual film!?
@@ever.4.n I have pen, paper and a decent camera. I’m so down lol
@@LaFlor718 my gosh an actual flim that could be potentially good
@@ever.4.n I agree, it would be amazing.
Spike Lee would be telling these filmmakers that Karen was "too on the nose".
spike lee would be telling
"YALL WATCH THAT SHIT?!"
How did this go from her getting the husband arrested to then trying to straight up murder the neighbor? With her own gun? Not even the cop brother could cover that up. Plus she never did anything that bad to her...
I was thinking the woman playing Karen sounded and looked a bit familiar, and like one of the women on OITNB. Turns out it's actually her, Taryn Manning. They really like putting her in roles of shitty people lol.
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This is actually a great demonstration of what's wrong with the entertainment industry nowadays. Rather than trying to *entertain* people, they do films with messages they think are currently favoured by the public, which in their minds is represented by twitter.
11:03 I swear, that's just... if I had gone into this blind and you would have told me this part is satire, I would have believed you. In what universe is that romantic dialogue?
And this was a 2021 release? God, that feels both unbelievable yet totally believable at the same time.
Next thing you know, we're going to be getting a feature length about simps and incels.
Incel was a short film in 2018. You're 3 years late lol.
don't give hollywood ideas please
@@T1MAGEDDON I’m mean didn’t they already make an incel movie called Cuck back in 2019? I was about some racist loner who angry at women for not dating him.
@@huntarthebarbarian8407 oh god
@@huntarthebarbarian8407
Racist,lonely,incel.....
*Gamer* *2069*
What was the movie with Samuel Jackson where he was a crazy, racist old man and he spent the entire time harassing an interracial couple?
How does a movie so long ago, that I don't think was even trying to have a message to it, handle suburban racism better than something that's going out of its way to force an agenda? Oh right, because it had an agenda. It's like Get Out trying to have a message, where all it amounted to was, "Oh boy, black people sure feel awkward around white people."
If you wanted a horror movie based on racism, just film yourself going through twitter for a bit. You'll get both in spades and you can have the caveat of saying it's Found Footage and "Based on a true story" that horror movies like to do.
There are many similar scenes now that I think about it.
That would be Lakeview Terrace.
@Insert Name Here Not to be nitpicky, but Zoe Saldana wasn't in Lakeview Terracr playing the wife; it may have been Kerry Washington.
@Insert Name Here That's ok
0:10 that is the face of a man who wants to give up. And we're only ten seconds in.
“We’ve been kept captive on this foreign land” bro generations of your family have been born here. That line made me cringe so hard
Holy cow she would have been a great actress for the mother for an IRL Coraline.
How bizarre, that a black director missed the mark as *wildly* as this
This is my guess. The director wanted to make a film about racism (which frankly is unappealing as entertainment to people) so when the Karen gimmick arrived, he used it as bait to get his movie made and seen. I suspect this because racism isn't what makes a "Karen," a Karen is just an overly domineering and self-righteous woman. I can't really blame the guy for taking the chance when it arrived, its just a shame that he didn't make a better movie.
Im not suprised to be honest the "woke" dialogue being used unironically tells me all I need to know about the guy.
Dude I watched this movie and for the first at least half hour most of the altercations weren't started by her, nor were they at all racist, it was just the neighbors kind of being dicks. She literally waves to them and says "hi" when they move in and the guy looks at her like she's a fucking alien...
Thought it was a horror film not a fucking comedy
Woulda been a hilarious comedy if the writers looked at the script in front of them while sober and my mind will not be changed on that fact
The sea food ramen part hit on a personal level, as waitter I have to deal with stupidity of that level quite often.
Honestly, I could see a film about a black couple moving into a mostly white neighborhood and being confronted with all the small and more explicit forms of racism. All while being in a weird rivalry with their neighbors.
Like there could be some small regional cultural things that they must get used to or deal with in other ways in to gain the favor of the other neighbors.
Or it could turn out that the couple is a first time, first generation of homeowners. So they accidentally don't keep up with the more established families, due to lack of knowledge or habit.
And the finale could include an actually dangerous racist, rather than the series of more systemic and habitual issues that they have dealt with so far.
I don't know, just spitballing here.
I think some movies with that premise do exist. I know various tv shows have done this. The concept itself isn't bad. But the execution for the karen movie is bafflingly awful.
But that would require an American screenwriter to give a shit about doing a good job. Can't have that, now can we?
And then they wonder why they're being replaced by GPT-4...
@@Moonlitwatersofaquashit, _The Munsters_ did it, and did it with a level of subtlety and tact that actually helped it get its message across to white audiences who probably wouldn't have paid attention if it had been done differently.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind having a trumpet playing when I have to break bad news to someone. Seems like it would really lighten the mood
This movie does not understand the meaning of the word “subtle.”
It kills whatever message it might be trying to say by being so cartoonishly over the top about it.
Don't expect a movie based on a meme to have anything to do with the word "subtle". It's still bad regardless.
So I live in Georgia and grew up in the area that I think this neighborhood/town is supposed to be based around. My neighborhood was full of Karens and had a tyrannical HOA and all that. Any people of color who moved into the neighborhood would be harassed, their houses would be vandalized, and they would be targeted by the HOA (I remember a family getting in trouble for putting their last name, Martinez, on their mailbox and white people getting away with the same thing). Also, we weren't far from places where the fucking Klan would rally and I have no doubt that there were members living in my neighborhood.
There is SO MUCH that happens in real life that this movie could've used but from what I've seen, it looks like they just guessed what it would be like instead of actually talking to people who have been in that situation.