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- Welcome back to our new Command & Conquer Tier List series. We're gonna rank all Uprising expansion infantries, vehicles, naval ships, and aircrafts of Soviet, Allies, and the Empire of Rising Sun, based on how viable they are in the online meta. I'll also provide reasoning and a competitive analysis of why I ranked a certain unit in their corresponding spot.
Note that this tier list is NOT based on a unit's overall strength. Units here are ranked by their viability in the meta. You may see a very strong unit with low ranking on this list - That is because they do not see many uses in online competitive gameplay.
Uprising does not have multiplayer game modes. Units' competitive strength can only be speculated via limited playtests inside the Upheaval mod.
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Time codes for units:
S - Tier:
Mortar Cycle - 0:08
A - Tier:
Pacifier FAV - 0:28
Archer Maiden - 0:54
B - Tier:
Future Tank X-1 - 1:12
Harbinger Gunship - 1:26
Steel Ronin 1:46
C - Tier:
Grinder - 2:01
Giga Fortress 2:26
D - Tier:
Reaper - 2:56
Cryo Legionnaire - 3:16
F - Tier:
Desolator Trooper - 3:32
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Restating the disclaimer: Units here are ranked by their speculated online viability. A strong unit may be ranked low because they wouldn't be practical in multiplayer games. The rankings are based on my own play experience when playing the Upheaval mod with clan H2O. Those were high-skill games, so the conclusions about these units are somewhat reliable: th-cam.com/video/iUQgIreoeSg/w-d-xo.html
The devs themselves called Uprising a "balance nightmare", and cancelled its online modes last minute. You can play online with Uprising units via Biber's Upheaval mod.
I remember playing uprise for the first time and my brain hurts and hate hate hate and more for Allies and the stupid Giga the most I have the worse mico trust I let the battle unfold.
I don't see the "online nightmare" devs are talking about. Most units are late game, late game isn't viable in comp and the only op late game unit is Harbringer which they could've easily nerfed.
Uprising would've saved the meta only cuz of mortal cycle, making Soviets way more viable
> The devs themselves called Uprising a "balance nightmare", and cancelled its online modes last minute.
Do you have a source?
That guy called himself "beaver" in German?
XD
@@danielsurvivor1372 LOOOOOL stop bro
Soviet in Uprising be like :
"Call an ambulance, call an ambulance"
*Pulls out Mortar cycle*
"But not for me!"
"Heh, suckers!"
everyone's laughing until its not an all land map....
I knew it. Harbinger and Future Tank X-1 are both B-tier, B for "broken"
I see what you did there XD
lol, also, nice profile picture by the way, I love Belfast! :D
@@JewelManDLN069 Nice to know a fellow Azur Lane player :D Though in my case I'm already retired.
@@o-geeogerio3182 Me too, it's a shame that my phone couldn't handle the new updates.
Harbingers with Apollos are pretty op, but they're still very vulnerable to a mass tengu spam against the Empire. Future Tanks are SO good in casual gameplay, you just need like 3 future tanks with some IFVs for AA and it can melt late-game tank armies really quick (insane AoE range) and the riot beam damage is literally insane I mean it can 2 shot an MCV although it takes time to load up and completely stops your Future tank for a hot second.
The future tank, if used properly can hit air. You can barely cusp the top of the sphere to take out twin blade swarms.
I have seen four Future Tanks kill their weight in Twinblades while only taking one loss.
they need to be max veterancy to be able to hit air via force firing in the general vicinity of the aircraft
I'd consider mortar cycles to be a scuffed(?) version of nod attack bikes. They're both fragile and fast with the main difference being the mortars are good for garrison clearing and early game siege while attack bikes are for hit 'n run and air defense.
Bikerushowns coming in to dominate Uprising too?
I always hated the Mortar Cycle when my enemies is using it. It's so fast that I can't even reach it and it's annoying bombarding my units or base
Well that's what they said about the Rocket Buggy in Generals...
Yep, makes building base defenses feel like a waste, forces you to be aggressive.
gla demo bikes
nod attack bikes
soviet mortar cycle
bikes are so good in every CnC
Mobility is just so good
2:55
But proto-jump can kill heavy vehicles. I have killed MCV for example. You just need to point and jump on future place of heavy vehicle. Try it.
Interesting. Will test it out. Thanks for the insight!
@@xyhc-cnc Can confirm you can use the Reapers' special ability to crush Future-Tanks on the last Soviets Uprising campaign mission for a cost-effective trade while you're setting up. Can't speak for their performance in Upheaval.
XQHC: $500 is too much for an Archer Maiden
Me, wasting 10 guardian tanks due to bad micro: Haha yes
2:02 Aww, I'm surprised you put Grinder so long, considering how both Grinder snd Mortar Cycle are good at Uprising Challenges, I assumed both are viable in comp.
Tho now I know why bombing Grinders melts their health, 250% weakness to bombs is WAY too much, infact it should've had RESISTANCE to bombing to make them viable
I expected them to be so good and built them in two of the games during stream. They just sucked. I’m sure they’d have better use cases for experienced players, but as far as I can tell, they are unviable
Well that, and their rear and side armor is piss...
Just wondering if their operators sign insurance waivers before heading out in case they die because this junk heap blows up after getting flanked easily...
@@louievelayo4100 Wtf?
They have weaker armor on the sides n back?
The devs are allied fanboys, what do you expect
@@louievelayo4100 imagine taking 250% damage from a vindicator bomb
Was not expecting Desolator and Legionnaire to be so low. Giga Fortress kinda, but really it's only OP cause the AI spams them.
Either way, most/all of the Uprising units are insanely fun to use regardless of practicality.
Go MIG on Gigas asses and they'll melt
@@danielsurvivor1372 gigas do not go on their own, they are usually coupled with a lot of anti air support
If you can have Giga. Enemmy could have something to fight it. 1 docks+2 upgrades+nanotech mainframe and allied could have counter it with a weapon jamming hydrofoil or shrink it out of existance
I think I explained it previously, but the MiG Fighter missiles do splash damage and large aircraft like the Kirov, Century Bomber, Harbinger, and the Giga-Fortress(in Sky mode) will take damage from both the missile impact and the splash...
For the Giga-Fortress though, you're gonna need *A LOT...*
But it would be best to prioritize the Docks first...
It's pretty fun to use giga-fortresses in air mode to easily annihilate bases from afar (although beware of of friendly fire cuz those lasers can easily kill your units or your allies)
1:58 Makes senses Ronins are good at defence... That's the whole point of their existence
To defend the emperor's tomb. That's all they have to do
Future tank has ridiculously large splash damage. It can even hit aircraft with it ( impractical but can be useful if enemy choose to use helicopter to engage )
I did not know that. Adding it to my list of things to test
@@xyhc-cnc unless your enemy is complete idiot. There's no way you can hit aircraft with such weapon. Let alone hit something that always on the move
Yeah, there's nothing that FT can't do (except swim). When they're not engaging, you can probably just station them around your base and force firing the ground to create a bubble against sneaky air units. Its probably unviable, but its a cool trick
@@testingphaze4853 3600 credit per unit sound a little too overprice for 1 anti everything unit to sit around and wait for someone to show themself
@@testingphaze4853 I'm not sure if Future Tank's force fire would mass splash your own units. My guess is it does. Something I plan to test out when I get to the FT guide
Helpful tip for mortar cycle: if you repeatedly cycle through the special ability at a certain rate, you'll be able to launch the cocktails at a much faster rate (not sure if this works in uprising but it does in upheaval/other mods that use the mortar cycle source code from upheaval)
Interesting. I will try it out
Even if it wasn't S tier, seeing you note how there was no attempt to balance out the Harbinger was still funny.
"Who in EA thought THIS would be a good idea?"
"I must reiterate - YOU. CAN'T. KILL THIS THING."
1:53 Poor Empire, their Ronins are countered by Soviet superiority.
Also I don't remember them not being able to crush infantry
Giga fortresses from what I can remember can kill air units if you transform from the sea form when they're above you. Highly situational however.
I do pretty much agree with the list, especially the mortar cycles and archer maidens. The AI spams the cycles and they're so obnoxious, their artillery range shouldn't outdo the range of the basic turrets.
yep mortar cycles are annoying in early-game when your're against brutal soviet ai
Excellent summary. Many thanks for uploading. Take care and stay safe.
Thanks for the vid. If you are still doing these a few other options for Tier lists would be Tiberium Wars and Generals (I know older games would be hard to do since they have little competitive play), as well as base defenses for Red Alert 2 and 3.
Desolators is an S class unit in Ra2 but became D class on Ra3.
So basically.. if you're fighting against allies, make sure they never get a lab. Early Pacifiers are simply just game-ending.
Their slow construction (added with two separate upgrades which adds up to the time to construct their endgame units) makes it seem like its the only "balancing factor" that prevents them from going beyond OP.
*Not like they're any less OP without their endgame units to begin with* :P
Probably the Mortar Cycle the best in uprising, but my favorite still the Pacifier FAV , after Cryocopter ofc ☺️❄️
Your have such questionable unit preferences
@@xyhc-cnc hahaha
@@xyhc-cnc No Yu :D
Tbh I was waiting this one for a while.
Reapers are fine, they can provide AA support while assisting in the ground assault... I mean Bullfrogs are strictly AA, so Reapers are a good compromise for that weakness...
Proto-jump is used as a last resort... They give up their legs on landing, but being able to smash even an MCV in one hit is worth every ruble...
And yes, Proto-jump can crush *ANYTHING!...* Even the damn Executioner... (according to wiki)
Trading dedicated capability in one field for versatility could be an interesting choice in a lot of games. In the case of RA3 though, Reapers' aren't nearly versatile enough to make the trade-off worthwhile;
Proto Jump killing heavy vehicles is very situational. Normally it's not supposed to kill large vehicles.
i think grinder is as effective as steel ronins and one of its advantage is when it gets grinder threads it can repair insanely quick when mincing a vehicle
Nice! It will be perfect if we can see Generals/TW/KW tier lists someday
Yeah let’s hope for that
@@xyhc-cnc I'm recently into both RA3 and Kane's Wrath lately (Thanks to Sybert and you - XYHC). Really hope to see my favorite faction Nod got a tier list video sometime.
Rocket buggy and scorpion tank w/ scorpion rocket definetly top tier for sure
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
i was thinking about these Uprising units that has tatical advantage amongs to em
Desolator Trooper were like fire support for the infantry (like defending the Flak Trooper Spam or make a Roleplay with Tesla Trooper for Bioshock) and Reaper is like Defense Replacement after losing the Tesla Coil, Flak Turret or MG post.
as for Grinder, they're typically annoying for taking out defenseless refinery
Harbringers were like Tactical Gunship for assisting your Ground or Naval army to win the fight
Giga Fortress... its like a comeback unit that you're on the losing edge and this is the single chance to retake your victory with high risk
I love your content
RA3 logic
Future Tanks are computer controlled as said in the surveillance video, but can still be un-manned by Natasha despite having no pilot?
Shoot the computer
I personally would've put desolater trooper higher. Im not a competitive player put from experience i can say that a single desolater can easily win a 1v1 against a future tank and pretty much anything else(except of course not units like natasha)
Interesting, will include that in the deso guide in the far future
@@xyhc-cnci tried to test the strength of them in a skirmish but apparently the toxin does NOT deal friendly fire.
That are 30 minutes of my life wasted...
But i can say that they get one shoted by tesla units, natasha and terror drones
Yeah, Desolator Trooper is the most durable infantry in RA3 Uprising. Large numbers of Desolators supported by Migs or Flak Troopers are unstoppable.
LET'S F*CKING GOOOOOOOOOOO.
Finally we got this video, thanks ;)
0:02 What is upheaval mod? Are some mad lads trying to create online multiplayer mod for Uprising???
Poor Desolator, from S in RA2, to F in RA3
Soviet Rocket Angels
Who will win: A flying overpriced fortress or a funni weapon jammer?
Desolator... it's good, just Soviets have better options is the issue, it's kinda like Colony in HW2, Colony has Goliaths which are an Infantry capable of killing buildings (and vehicles) with a fair amount of ease, but their a melee unit (Colony can attach Skitterers to them which is often what I do to give them an attack that targets ground and air at a range),
but the Locust is also available to Colony, which is essentially a T2 vehicle that can target ground and air at range with a beam that's damage ramps up over time, and they can also have Skitterers assigned to them, and Colony can buff the Locust more then the Goliath as the Goliath can get a few upgrades, while the Locust has none,
but can be affected by Colony's Vehicle Symbiotes leader power which also effects Skitterers which buffs their range and armor making Locust and Skitterers units with already long ranges and okay defenses tougher to kill and able to fight from farther away, then for the T5 power, Colony can pick up Combat Repair which makes it so more or less everything Colony has constantly regens health even when being shot,
Goliaths are really tough (their the most durable infantry unit in the game barring certain Hero Units including Colony's Hunter Captain), but being melee holds them back a bit since the only way for them to have a ranged attack is to attach a Skitterer to them, which could be attached to a more valuable unit or even a unit of Regular Hunters to give their firepower a bit of a boost,
or used to scout as their fairly competent on their own against infantry even if outnumbered, and do decently against almost everything else, even if they'll lost the 1v1, their kinda like if you gave Terror Drones a gun and lowered their damage output slightly.
At the end of the day, the Goliath and Desolator are both units, where they can do their job really well, but other options manage to edge out over them for one reason or another.
What do you think of Uprising's rearranged support powers? if i remember correctly, advanced aeronautics leads to timb bomb instead of cryo, while honorable discharge does not lead into defense drones. I think these will create a sizeable impact on how games are played.
I think the new support layout on the uprising game is overall better. I like that it starts with the passive upgrades and leaves the offensive ones like cryo and satellite to the last. And yes, your guess are correct. In order to get cryo you need to unlock the high maintenance upgrade and the chrono swap. While in order to get the drones you need to unlock the naval upgrade
Amazing
So do you think that Mortar Cycles can be used to mitigate Twinfrog’s only weakness?
I like this wonderful "ОЖОГ"
2:48 Sounds like D or even F tier for me since they're so impractical
Agreed. They’d won me a couple games nonetheless. Get one out and you can almost guarantee a win (as long as you have some Tengus and pay some attention)
Of course... Who can say no to a fast, early tier artillery unit?...
Also reason for Allies requiring Def Bureau to build Uprising units?... I dunno, FutureTech said so I guess...
2:02 A bit funny of you to say Grinders are piloted by Brutes to continue Yuri's service considering RA3 takes place in a different timeline than RA2 🙃
So consider orbital patterns.
Now consider earths orbital pattern.
Now consider an object that is orbiting the sun flying though earths gravitational field, momentarily being influenced by it, and then leaving said field.
That was a joke flying over your head.
Didn't know Terror Drone can zap both Cryo leginonare and Desolator trooper .
They should also be able to zap Tesla troopers. Never seen it happen but they should according to their coding
How come i never see this sort of thing on Tib wars
Wait. I never remembered anything about Terror Drones being able to disable infantry with their Electro Stasis Ray. And I think Giga-Fortress should have been D-Tier due to how costly they are.
Iirc it’s because they are “armoured” unlike normal infantry. Think of it like tesla troopers being able to be sucked up by electromagnetic satellite despite being infantry due to their heavy metal armour. It should be the same interaction as well between tesla troopers and terror drones stasis, as well as legionnaires and terror drone stasis.
Damn allies...
Peacekeeper: Arrhhh!! It's burn
Just a minor nitpick, but the plural of "Infantry" and "Artillery" are "Infantry" and "Artillery". "Infantries" isn't used.
I feel like at least some of these units (archer maiden especially) if rebalanced/tweaked, could be pretty good/worthwhile. But mabey thats just me.
Yep. I'll do another stream for my King Sputnik mod soon. Three Uprising units are in it and they really add a lot to the game.
1:35 Just spam tengus bro, that's how I completed Harbringer challenge in Uprising.
They have no way to kill Migs or Tengus etc
why not dojo rush, fast dojo rush can end the challenge in around 4 mins
>Future Tank
>Could be hard countered by Natasha
Aren't they robotic? No pilot to snipe and all.
snipe its chip. replace with a conscript brain
@@xyhc-cnc lmao
Desolator in Red Alert 2: S tier
Desolator in Uprising: F tier
Wut
Slow toxic waste movement speed is hard to eliminate enemy quickly. Less useful in anti tank duty. More than enough reason to be in low tier
Rocketeers in RA2: S-Tier
Rocket Angels in RA3: F-Tier
F
Why the Cryo Legionnaire is not in the B?
Wish Archer Maidens were buffed into S tier 😂
Actually - MP matches aside - Why are Japanese even allowed tro have Giga-Fortresses at all?
With Allies winning the war, don't You think they would demilitarize not just Soviets (hence the reason Grinders exist in Uprising), but the Empire, as well? I mean, this isn't a rocket science.
The Empire was in a state of desperation of resisting the Allied occupation at that time. And as such they pooled all of what's left of their resources to build the Giga-Fortresses.
2:57 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, YOOOO, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LET'S GOOOOO!
Reaper hate go!
Seriously tho, this unit sucks balls, it should've been a big phat F tier.
Try to genuinely use this unit in any uprising challenge snd try to complete it at golden time... You can't, bcus they suck.
Their price doesn't pay off at all
Quote Chris again: “Reapers are next to useless”
Still, as a naturally unlocked Tier 2 unit, they have more uses than Desolator
I wish they actually deal some damage though , theirs nade launcher don't know what type of unit they should be best against , and theirs rocket deal pitiful damage to aircraft , seriously an IFV deal more damage and cheaper .
@@kampfer91 Grenades are anti-infantry
the grenades will hit other reapers instead of the intended target, if you pack them to close
2 years too late but eh... u forgot to include the fact that the X-1 can kill aircraft once if its allowed to gain veterancy.... also the Harbinger actually takes less damage from MiGs in particular.... Also another fun fact, a harbinger can technically 1 v 2 gigas....
did not know those!
I like how this comment section has 20 comments as of when i'm typing this, but 10 or so are from that Daniel guy
Either way, i was totally *not* ready, at all. For the Harbinger Gunship to be lower than A tier, i was damn sure they were bottom S tier at best and middle A tier at worst.
Then we have the Desolator, tbh i was sure its not gonna make it anywhere above C tier but F tier god damn, well it make sense cuz it no longer has what's necessary to make it top tier in the first place AKA area denial against tank *and* infantries
Mostly due to the fact that Harbinger is a late game unit with both tier 3 and defense bureau required for its production. They are OP to the point that they are almost a win condition, but making investment into them leaves you very vulnerable to any aggressive play before they actualy come out.
Does allied having the biggest tank make them villains?
The biggest copters are the symbol of villains
Also the biggest infantry - Cryo Legionnaire
well since futuretech is referred to as the villain in uprising i suppose it checks out
I'm not good at American school system, but what does S means??
F for fail
D for 2
C for 3
B for 4
A for 5
S for... Strong? xD
S tier exists because tier list meme came from Fighting community, they for some reason use S tier as the highest ranking, it has nothing to do with education
@@danielsurvivor1372 thx uwu
Desolator F tier (
hasn't he suffered enough!?
@@IkeFanBoy64 he's cool he's not f tier
That Harbinger airship is a much much better Siege Copter :/ Futuretech must be Russians before all this ordeal somehow
It costs 6300! Who invests that much?
'Me playing against brutal empire ai and seeing like 5 of them'
Brutal AI doesn’t care about cost
@@xyhc-cnc Brutal AI is why they're considered OP
@@xyhc-cnc Ive realised.. 😂
Plus I'm pretty sure the brutal AI gets double credits so there's that, too. For the most fair challenge, hard AI would be the way to go, I think
3:38 Wait rocket angels are in RA2???
Where? You meant Allies unit that can also fly and shoot rockets?
Closest equivalent unit acording from the role, armament, equipment. Closest for rocket angel is rocketeer ( aerial infantry, can attack ground/air )
....Go check Norio from mental omega mod. That's one.
@@johndexterzarate6663 HAH, except norio is definetly S tier
Where to download King Sputnik mod?
It's not publicly released. There should be a link to it in the description of my King Sputnik campaign video tho
No offense but uprising is more cool than the base version
It has more units like Giga Fortress and sea wing
Sea Wing is in base RA3 even before Uprising...
I want to point out two things: I don't believe the assessment of Ronins and Grinders is complete.
I mean what was noticeable to me, is that Grinders when combined with "Grinder Treads upgrade" the basically can repair themselves in a preposterous amount of time.
I once triec this thesis on "gosh darn Mongolians" and o boy, Kenji got humiliated BADLY.
All it took was 2 grinder, 2, to destroy his offensive capabilities, *entirely*
So, I'd consider at least B-Tier for that matter.
And the Ronins, I don't quite believe it affects their overall ranking, but it is noteworthy that Ronins once upgraded with "Honorable Discharge", they bring almost certain discharge damage - but still noteworthy.
EDIT: The Giga fortress can also crush enemy units while transforming, whether they be upon or under it, that should also be taken into account, although it doens't make huge difference it increases the viability against Kirovs and Century Bombers.
DOUBLE EDIT : OK, folks forget what I wrote!
There is totally NoThInG going on with grinders and Ronins, absolutely nothing interesting!!!
Shhhh, I’m saving the trivia for individual guides ;)
Grinder’s not gonna do much due to their hard counters and lack of use cases in any match up, no matter how much they regen; They already win land match-ups anyways, but as mentioned, nobody directly confronts soviets on land. A single vindicator almost takes an expensive Grinder out completely. Empire spams too many mobile units. Other soviets shut down grinder COMPLETELY with terror drone.
@@xyhc-cnc
Well, the more you know...
@@Beleidigen-ist-Pflicht one extra point to know is that even if grinder treads is up, you won't be able to catch too many tengus before the honorable discharge severly cripples your grinder
@@paulyeung2544
Let's do the math.
1 GT Grinder = 1600 credits
The Grinder manages up to 4 Tengus before HD destruction.
4 Tengu = 4×800 credits = 3200 credits
I'd say still worth the trouble, no?
@@Beleidigen-ist-Pflicht unlikely tho, the tengus won't just stand there and let you grind them. Taking into account of those i'll say grinding up to at least 2 Tengus pretty good already
Uprising is a huge disappointment for me. There is a lot of cool stuff, but it is so poorly implemented, even more rushed that RA3. Even if I don't play multiplayer, I still find appalling that they don't support it - especially as that is what is keeping RA3 alive right now.
Every unit added is OP in its niche, its just whether it is economically viable, or suitable for its tech level. They repaired some omissions in each side but doubled down on others and didn't repair existing mistakes (Looking at you sputnik).
Desolator doesn't need to be AT, you have tesla troopers for that, drop it down a tech level and price and restore its area denial.
Why do cycles clear garrisons when conscripts and toxin strikes do this so efficiently? Not to say that desolators also compete with this.
Why not make the cycle closer to the GLA? A mobile light transport for a single soldier that doesnt risk AA to deploy. Even better add mortar infantry as a seperate light artillery that combos well with the cycle.
Grinder tank, as said it is competing with existing excellent tanks. Plus its ability is weaker than the magnetic harpoon. Why not make it closer the crane in that it could produce money from kills and help the soviet economy (Fits its lore), with a special ability to switch to using the scrap to repair allied tanks and help the soviets with their poor repair capabilities.
I really do not understand what they were going with the reaper, if it could redeploy at will it would be a significant improvement. Tbh I would have switched it out for a super unit. Give the soviets their end game Gigafortress (Why does Empire have 2 super units!?) The cut centurion walker would do. If not a direct fire artillery unit that can't be dodged or a long range AA like mental omega grumble would have been lovely. Final alternative, soviet battleship for naval dominance?
The Empire units for the most part I really like, balance for some aside. It is just the Giga fortress that baffles me. Both ugly and clumbersome. A larger King Oni with AA or ally buff would have been nicer. Or a dedicated air unit or naval supreme unit (Even if its a giga fortress without transform). Empire did only get 3 units ...
For the allies, balance issues aside they make some sense composition wise, harbingers if balanced would compete against century bombers, but if each faction had a super unit then it would fulfil this niche.
But the Pacifier & Future tank both compete with this role thanks to their OP power. As the pacifier competes with the Athena it doubly does not make sense. Empire and Soviets both received several additions to their lower tier, but the allies spec entirely into their higher tier. A tank destroyer to complement guardian tanks or sniper to complement infantry could have been nice additions that wouldn't be so blatantly OP at least.
Yikes, that was a rant! Sorry for the wall text 😜
Uprising is single player
I still can't believe that all Allied units are not on the S-tier, especially Pacifier FAV, Harbinger Gunship and Future tank. They are ridiculously OP regardless of their tech or cost, simply because they become unstoppable game-ender once they started to produced. Mortar bike on S-tier? lol who cares about those cheap little fodder...
It's about using them in competitive.
You must never play games online. Online competitive is totally different from playing against AI. You never get a chance to late game
0:43 Wait if even newcomers recognise Pacifiers as OP why you didn't put em as S tier?
Check "Cons"
They are OP, like Harbingers or Giga Fortresses. It's just not easy to actually place them in the battlefield though.
Late game unit, not so many games ended up with late game situations.
@@llSuperSnivyll They're definitely a more defense oriented unit, if you ask me.
Theirs shell travel slowly and even have warning sign on the ground , dodging them is quite easy unless your army size is too big . They only good at demolishing enemy base and end the game that way .
So, the mortar cycle costing 600 credits *is* spammable, but archer maiden costing 500 credits *is not* spammable?
Mortars offer A TON of values, while archers are mainly a defensive unit. Empire hurts from the $500 extra credit for refineries, and has to be able to afford the entire cost of a building at once to not delay their builds. Soviets can build some mortars while slowly getting their new ref up, while Empire has to hold on to their money until they can get a core out.
4 archers literally equates the cost of a Mecha Bay.
@@xyhc-cnc I understand.
If conscript costs 500, and apocalypse costs 600. Do you think conscript is better than apocalypse just by the cost?
@@itaymaoz7498 No, but i'm not a competetive player.
Edit: Conscripts are spammable.
No one plays uprising right? I remember regretting buying this expansion, all the units are very immersion breaking for some reason, especially the giga fortress
This is a first. I can understand a lot of complaints for uprising, but this I certainly can't. RA was always ridiculous and that's what made it fun, suicidal tanks blowing everything around em up and themselves, rocket firing tanks with the ability to teleport anywhere, flying discs, mind controlled squids, combat dolphins, psychokinetic schoolgirl commandos and yet it's the expansion with the floating head that's the immersion breaking one.
@@aze559 the archer maiden too, the ronins and a harbinger too. Can't even say they're fun tbh, feels like two different groups of devs who made them
@@Fakeslimshady I'd disagree on the ronins and archer maidens, they're extraordinarily fun. Ronins are dedicated melee units for the empire, kind of like Zealots. And they fit the theme very nicely (tho their concept art looks much better than the ingame model, but that problem is shared by vanilla RA3 too). Archer maidens are nice AA which makes a nice change of pace instead of relying on tengus all the time. Their ability is also very nice. Harbingers fit the theme BUT I don't like them as units, AI spams em too but what can ya do, it fits the role of the Allied air siege weapon.
You can tell by the looks of something if it's made by different teams, but it's much much harder gameplay wise to distinguish who made what or to even guess unless you're well familiar with someone's style and/or have confirmation of behind the scenes. I think they fit and would be great to add to the official arsenal, with some balance tweaks which honestly a lot of c&c games need should they do more remasters (which ofc they should).
Would the Reaper's ability to hop a wall and 1shot a Harvester effect it's placement? It'd technically be a net benefit cost wise, and dislodging it would efficiently without T2 would be obnoxious (unless you're Allies lol)