@@marcosandiego619 they most likely had an extra angle just in case the one in the reflection looked like shit. Besides, what was really important to capture was the disappointment in the character's eyes. The explosion wasnt all that important
Imagine going through the All Ghillied Up mission in real life, had the clear shot on Zahkaev and some officer bust in and tell you an air strike is on the way.
Or right before youre about to throw thaf knife into Shepherds eye and Nikolai tells you not to because the pit instructor from the beginning of the game was about to RPG him
some context - the spotter had a criminal record that he hid from recruiters in order to enlist. by the time this scene happened, he had already been found out and everyone knew he would get discharged when he got back. this was his last chance to contribute to the war, which is why he broke down when that chance was taken away from him.
@kevinzhang6623 deserved what? For telling a rude officer to let him continue with his shot? The man was certainly more than a criminal. He was a Marine.
@@kincaidwolf5184for wanting to kill a man so badly that he’d attack his superior officer in the battle field. I know he just took the phone but still. There are plenty of ways to serve. But it is important that those with criminal records be monitored before heading to war zones. You don’t want to send psychos or traitors out there, you’ll make things worse.
@MegaNinjaRyan Half of them Officers are clowns and rude. There is a way to lead and command. You don't bulldoze your way in and treat people poorly. There is a reason why retention rate is so poor.
Ya gotta see the whole film to understand the spotter's emotions here. Plus he knew he was about to be kicked out of the corps for lying on his application. This was his only chance to perform the duty he so passionately signed up for!!
exactly so many people in this comments section are judging them so hard about how "ridiculous" it is. In reality it isnt ridiculous at all but the only perspective they consider is their own rather than how it feels to be them.
@@jacob-bq4fp imagine being that marine tho. You're on deployement serving your country and instead of a letter saying she is breaking up with you or waiting til you come back home, your wife sends u a video when she is getting railed by your neighbour and you are across the globe with idiots like ahab the arab guy and have to stand out with that shit for god knows how long at the same time you never know when you're gonna get mortared or blown up by the enemy
Imagine being trained to cook a burger. Your whole mind is reprogrammed to cook perfect burgers. You finally go to the big kitchen and get the buns, lettuce, tomato, and right before throwing the patty on the grill. The chef stops you and tells you I’m going to get someone else to do it
Cooking a burger is a bit different than personally ending someone's life. I understand that you are trained to do that, but damn that is a really fucked mentality. How do we integrate someone like that back into society after their service? Or are you saying that military training is an intentional one way path, intended to use a human as a tool and then throw it away when its not useful anymore?
@@rickv9180 Private security doesn't just get to shoot anyone they want. Most of the time spent on job will just be standing/sitting around, and rarely do they ever have any kind of 'battle'. If anything, the mostly break up fist fights. And mercenaries are not exactly an integration back into the regular workforce.
Noone is ever in good hands with Allstate. Literally falsified information to get us to pay so they wouldn't have to. Haysbert is great, but actors should have a little more responsibility when deciding to represent companies that are blatantly as dishonest as Allstate. Avoid them no matter what.
Actually no, in a combat situation, you go off the last order given, the shot would've spooked the remaining Iraqis to them possibly flee the airfield.
@@joshuaparrott2458 No, a Major would typically not be in the direct line of command. If he had taken the shot, he would have been in the right; however, the major being butthurt would NJP them as disrespecting an officer out of spite.
@@joshuaparrott2458 In my experience, Majors are typically the Battalion XO's. aka Admin Jockeys. They should never be in the line company, let alone in a sniper nest. That Major was in the wrong place, and should not be his job to call in airstrikes. He said Bravo 4? That's weapons, not a direct line.
it's a sad reality. They don't even want to be there, easily 99% want to serve their family, friends and country proud. The dude toying with corpses tho, different story. then to have that be ripped away from you, by someone with no authority to do so, right as you are going to fire your first round. It's fascinating but horrifying to watch him explain himself through his sobs. Very impressive acting for a small niche of those who truly understand.
@@monkeepox2227 proud, murican army, same sentence, 99% for family n.country, man everybody laughing at muricans joining the army to go sideways with a mustang and.have their first victims on the streets lmao that comment was funnier than mine i should become a comedian
@@monkeepox2227 its a troll though no need to send the army here madoods. But the majority of those young people that join the army are doing it for the money. If its to impress your family, change your family. If its to impress someone, change that someone. If its for your country...lmao squared. It should never be normal and likeable being a war pown when not forced or in a desperate position or if not ok in your brain. And these dudes should be happy that didnt have to fight or kill someone. They were lucky. Noone knows how murder gonma mess u up before it happens. If they wanted to feel that army is pointless they should have that opinion from.the beggining. But i guess thats a wrong thought and almost suicidal when in the army so fak what i just said. I know thats not how stuff works and army and war cant just not exist, but that shouldnt make anyone feel.proud for being a soldier if not to directly protect his or her loved ones
Is he the actor who played a clown that eats children? The plot is that this clown suit is cursed and turns the wearer into a monster and has to eat children inorder to lift the curse.
War is hell, constant evil everywhere even when you don't even kill. This whole movie is tough to watch but friends have told me is pretty realistic. Damn..
the part they are talking about being realistic is the bordom everything else is a load of shit if that guy broke down like that not being able to take the shot he would have been a psych discharge instantly.
@@Conmon115 No :( long story short version after 9/11 i was graduating in 05 so i was gonna join the airforce (wanted to fly f-22's found out that probably would not happen so i fell in love with the viper f-16) but i got stuck in a wheelchair yeah but being from Texas I have a lot of friends that did serve all the way from the Marines to the Coasties.
So let me get this straight, a Major from another platoon shows up unannounced at the front line to call in an airstrike while also ordering the sniper team to disregard their orders from a Colonel to take the shot......... What?! What the fuck!?
The scene was to demonstrate how wars had changed. They had trained and given everything to be there and .......... They are not needed. All that work for nothing to sit back and watch as the war is won with planes and booms. So why did we have to come here and get stuck out in this shit hole of a dessert for six months if the dam fighter jocks get all the glory and we just get to watch the light show.
@@JackTalyorD yeah def a weird period of warfare for America. You could have spent nearly a year deployed for desert shield and barely seen any ground combat, but then a few Years later Task force ranger and 10th mountain were in more sustained combat than most guys will ever see.
In other words, the sniper team was sent on a mission ostensibly to take out a target. In reality, the major asked the colonel to send a couple of unpopular marines to clear the path for IEDs and traps while the major followed closely in safety. In that morning, the major probably woke up late which was why he was in such a big hurry to get there before the snipers took the shot.
1:30 That’s incredible acting The pain of not being able to get your words out The wave of anger and sadness of ruining the one moment you had to express what you were going to say in the best way and now it’s all....fucked
Okay to people saying it’s not about that. I’m aware it’s a PTSD attack, it can still manifest itself as near identical to any trauma response. Trying to make sense of the conflicting horrible feelings within you.
@@sbraypaynt I’m the only one here who’s mentioned PTSD. Why not just reply to me? Lol. Anyway, your framing is just not quite right.. Doesn’t make sense really. I can’t make sense of your statement just now either. Sounds like some sc***l sh**ter type shit. Anyway, if you have anger issues resulting from trauma that means you have PTSD. If you get enraged when you can’t express yourself properly or fully then you might have some other diagnosis, but that’s not necessarily a trauma response. To be clear, anger and frustration CAN be a trauma response, but what is portrayed here in this clip is explicitly a PTSD attack.. That’s what it is and that’s what it’s about.
I imagine preparing yourself to kill someone is requires a lot of emotional discipline and stress, so without the release, you become insane and erratic. Makes sense for him to react like that.
even after killing someone, it could still be argued that the stress, specifically that those soldiers went through, drove them insane and erratic. it didn't matter if he got the shot or not.
@@cmc3223 I disagree slightly, these guys are conditioned so that killing is second nature, and they actually enjoy it, as that's the only thing that gets them through the ordeal of battle. I think it would've provided him relief, even if it was brief.
@@ass640 That's like literally what PTSD is. You get so conditioned to view human beings in a completely different way, to deal with stress that is entirely outside of the bounds of normal human interaction, that you come back and find you've forgotten how to be a civilian.
@@Multifixated Well that’s more operant conditioning. PTSD would depend on how distressed they are, coming home and trying to function. Likely, there would be problems, but PTSD is not a given.
I’ve come across some situational irony that is very interesting. After watching this video, I scrolled down to the youtube algorithm’s next video recommendation and the first on the list was a scene from the WW2 movie Fury (2014), set in 1945 where army rookie (logan Lerman) is forced to execute a german soldier by his commanding sergeant (brad Pitt). The contrasting mindsets of the soldiers in these two different scenes when it comes to killing are somewhat disturbing.
Its either kill or be killed. If youre drafted you dont HAVE to kill but go to jail or be killed/deadweight in a squad. But if you decide to kill youre not necessarily a hero. Just perpetuating more hate and violence.
Precision shot from a trained sniper: $1 for the bullet. Guided bomb from a jet fighter: $20k - $100k for each bomb depending on guidance system, plus $25k in jet fuel for each hour in flight. The US is 28 trillion in debt
You're forgetting the traing and equipment that comes from one soldier. Which is close to about $100,000 if the average is true in several public sources. A literal wiki would give you a tough estimate.
@@thesaintsrowspartan ok fair enough. But then we also have to consider the training of a jet pilot, which I’m sure reaches into the millions. The fuel alone for them to go up and spend thousands of hours in flight training is probably 8 figures, easily
What’s interesting about this is how Skarsgards character in the rest of the movie is the level headed one the whole time. In fact the other marines have their own break downs and outbursts and he’s there holding it together. Then when he’s able to finally put his skill and collected ness to use he can’t.
Being in the field also does wierd things to you emotionally. You get fuckall sleep, The food is shit and pumped full of sugar and salt, you are usually either too cold or too hot and you don't get to be inside for days or weeks at a time. You know how emotional you can get when you have a really bad hangover? It's like that but for days. I've seen people lose their shit over the smallest of things on like the 4th day in the field.
I think what makes this scene even more sad is. Before getting deployed, Swofford, Troy and other Marines can be seen watching the air raid scene from the film Apocalypse Now and are all cheering and basically getting rowdy as they are fueled with excitement at what the war is like as depicted from that scene from Apocalypse Now. Swofford and Troy soon realize that their war is a very different one, one that involves the men sitting at base camp every day, staring out at the horizon, waiting for the enemy. They are not really doing anything useful and are essentially just "wasting their skills" When they are finally given the opportunity to do something useful (Take out the enemy general). Both men are pumped and ready. I've HAVE NEVER served before so of course I know nothing about it but in my opinion, the way the men probably felt during that moment resembles a player having spent his life practicing and training in the gym, working hard and grinding his teeth for hours everyday, finally being told he will be put in by coach next possession after sitting on the bench the whole season. Swofford and Troy are about to make the shot before they are interrupted by the Major who tells them that he has ordered an airstrike to take out the airport. Swofford and Troy try desperately to argue with the Major to let them take the shot who refuses. Troy gets increasingly frustrated and starts lashing out at the Major, yelling and cussing at him in disappointment and anger. He feels as though he had wasted all his time and was not allowed to do the job he was trained for. Referring back to the analogy : The player gets tapped by the head coach to enter the game but right as he is about to enter, coach pulls him out and puts the star player in, denying the player the opportunity. I remember reading a comment somewhere that said that Troy never had the order from the Colonel and that he just made it up. This can be evident by the long pause and the shaking hand as he talks into the reciever. Finally, the quote towards the end of the movie "I never shot my rifle" or something like that represents exactly how the men felt. Not able to put their skills to the test, sitting around everyday wasting time essentially. Just my thoughts on it.
I'm not sure who it was from or where I saw it, but the this translation and it is very accurate according to a lot of former service members especially from the Gulf. Furthermore, they are Marines, trained to fight than any other branches in the Armed forces. They were getting thrilled and excited to kick ass but as you said they were just sitting in the base wasting time.
It’s is truly like that we get trained basically and sit wait for order where looking action the whole time it’s nerve racking to only find it’s nothing but just u training and training to know your skills
@@collinm.4652 probably, it was my thought too when I saw that scene. I'd have to look up the story, the movie is based on a real person I believe so he'd have said why.
I kind get them, these guys spent years training for this, then a war comes along and they finally get deployed to said war, while there they spent most of the war just patrolling the dessert with very minimum to no contact with the enemy, in fact the closest they got to actual combat in the entire movie was when at the beginning of their deployment during the moter strike from the enemy and when they got friendly fucked by those A-10s, then they get a mission that would technically validate their years of hard training when all of a sudden some pencils pushing "i want to advance my career" asshole officer comes along and takes your mission away, especially when, in this case, they have a perfect shot, I don't think I would have reacted the same way, but I would most definitely by as pissed off as him, I mean seriously, that officer could have not been an asshole and let them take the shot right when they air strike came or something, I don't know just saying
Mate they're not hunting deer.... I'd think that anyone would consider themselves lucky that that they didn't have to resort to killing somebody during the war.
@@fleshwound5149 these men were trained for specifically this though. They spend long times ready to engage, along with the boredom the thirst for it would grow. I can see why he’d want the shot because in his mind that enemy isn’t considered a “human” but an “enemy” or a “target”. Different mindsets.
@@fleshwound5149 hey dude, yeah you've never meet a sniper have you? Specially marine snipers, shooting and killing a target with a single shot is kind of a religion for them so trust me when I tell you, when deployed they want to kill something, Specially when they spent most of their deployment being bored as shit
A true spotter gets a sense of fulfillment when the shot is cleared and executed correctly. In this case they’ve been out eying the same people for maybe hours on in watching their every move, every twitch. That alone will drive a sane man, you know the rest.
It was, and I completely understand the anger and frustration they all felt about being sent to fight a war that they never actually fired a shot in. All that training and preparation was completely for nothing. They felt that they had been pawns in a limpdick game, and not without justification.
The college line is a big thing, OCS guys who were lucky to have the full fun college experience, then go to OCS and come out thinking they are superior is a big thing in the military.
Marine NROTC takes a lot of the fun out of college, and you still have to go through OCS, although it's only 6 weeks instead of the 10 you have to do if you're coming in straight from the civilian world.
The reality, regardless of what Swaford says, is that a Marine Corps Major would most certainly have allowed them to take the shot if they had a clean one.
People survive airstrikes all the time. The STA would be normally tasked to make sure the individual target didn't, regardless of the strike outcome. And yes, STAs are weird MFers.
@Francisco Santana but your points resets in every round, and you need 8 kills to do so, without respawns you can only kill 5 enemies, unless you have a care package or something
@Francisco Santana we must be playing diffrent versions then, because mine always resets everytime the round changes, even though i lived throughout the whole thinf
@Francisco Santana i’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic. but, the last cod i played was bo2 i cant remember if the score streak resets each round in snd. but it does reset in codm
You enlist to serve your country and take out the bad guys. You spend years training under grueling conditions until everything in your life revolves around that rifle and taking the shot. You get shipped out to some sandy hellhole where you're separated from everything you've previously known, forced to endure constant discomfort, boredom, isolation, and the ever-present danger of being attacked and killed at any moment. You watch friends die right in front of you, sometimes to friendly fire, leaving you frustrated and feeling impotent. Finally you receive the command to put all your training to use and take down a high level baddie. Finally you'll be able to make a difference and justify all that you've had to go through. You get to where you need to be and spend hour after hour waiting, preparing, psyching yourself up, until you're in the correct state of mind. Your target presents himself. You have that perfect shot lined up. It's all finally about to be worth it. There's finally going to be some meaning meaning behind it all...and then BAM, some jackass with a radio barges in and tells you not to bother because he's going to have some pilots who've spent the last 12 hours sipping coffee at an airbase miles from there carpet bomb the whole site. You're not needed. The guy overreacted, obviously, but his feelings are understandable.
@@JustMarty war in ukraine has thousands of volunteers like this guy and many engagements are drone, arty, air, and missile dominanted. With few times of rest and sometimes fewer supplies. Yet they all seem to crack jokes like nothing and come back home fine (both ukrainian military and foreign volunteers). And mind you the fight there is far more desperate than here. Not being able to use the skill you trained for is bad but that's an overreaction. Volunteers and conscripts die in droves to arty and drome drops and will likely rarely see the enemy every couple of days, and likely not shoot to avoid getting detected by others. The mentality of these soldiers are so vastly different that there's no wonder U.S marines come back with ptsd. One is trained to kill the enemy the other is trained to protect what's behind them.
Jarhead is a movie about innocence, reality and expectations. At the beginning of the movie, Swafford reads the Stranger by Camus. So during the movie I couldn’t stop seeing the whole thing through the lens of that book. During the first part, during the training, Swafford is very similar to Meursault. Detached, he almost seems like he is in an absurd dream where he doesn’t want to be here. We barely know anything about him yet we observe every events through his point-of-view. These absurd events are the training. They are conditioned to kill, to be brutal, to obey. They are transformed into killers. This is visible when they cheer the bombing scene of Apocalypse Now. This scene is anti-war, and shouldn’t be cheered. Yet they do, because they were conditioned to, very similarly to Full Metal Jacket. There is clear homages to FMJ during the training part of the movie. And this is where our expectations are set. In The Stranger by Camus and in FMJ, the protagonist loose their innocence by killing someone. In the Stranger it comes almost as surprise, as a weird turn of event, when Meursault suddenly kills the Algerian, barely realizing he is pressing the trigger. In Full Metal Jacket it’s the dramatic ending of the movie, the culmination of their training. Yet, in Jarhead, this never happens. Our expectations, and those of the protagonists are set. Swafford wants to be Meursault, but unlike Meursault, he lives in a reality which catch him. It’s gritty, and boring. He doesn’t get to do anything. And he isn’t ready for this, because he didn’t realize what it meant. So does Troy, and it drives him mad. Troy goes insane because he knows that now, there is no going back, the Marine Corp changed him into something else he wasn’t before. Yet by stealing his kill, they made all that changing void, useless, absurd. The only ones that do not go mad are Fowler, because he is a psycho and transforming him into a killing machine didn’t require a lot of effort, and the Sergeant, because he knew what he was signing for, and loves this job and the reality, and doesn’t have any expectations. (He basically says it in the scene with the oil fields). After going through hell, after going through a training that’s one way, and can never be reversed (as Swafford says “his hands will always remember the rifle”) he never gets to be Meursault or Pvt. Joker. All of it was for nothing, we and them never got our expectations fulfilled. Honestly, you could watch the training od FMJ followed by the Iraq war part of Jarhead and it would still work for both. The whole point of Full Metal Jacket is that if you train soldiers to be killing machines and let them loose in a warzone, they will go insane. Almost oppositely, but weirdly the same, the point of Jarhead is that if you train soldiers to be killing machines, and then make them do nothing, they will equally get insane.
@@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516 That's what I meant, I just translated from french and made a mistake of using "of" instead of "by". Sorry, english is not my first language ! I'll edit and correct.
This flick captures the experience I was described by an acquaintance of mine who served in Afghanistan or Iraq, can’t remember. Said all they did all day, was stand around and fry in the heat; never saw combat.
@@CHROMIUMHEROmusic Is it though? The movie is supposed to encapsulate how militaries indoctrinate and break down people until they view killing as an end instead of a mean, the breakdown is supposed to show just how much of his personal value was dependent on that implanted goal & how the denial of that left him an incoherent mess, a jarhead without coherence or purpose. There's a reason the vast majority of soldiers in the 20th century, when not in immediate danger, wouldn't shoot to kill (or to hit) their enemies, it wasn't until well after Vietnam and the introduction of systemic psychological manipulation that the majority would.
@UnitedStatesofAmerica1984he wasn't crazy , just a passionate soldier angry at being denied the freedom to do his job by some pencil pusher with a stick up his ass My cousin's husband spent months roasting in the Afghan sun as a glorified mall security guy , he would have loved to see some action No one volunteers for combat unless they got a thirst for action , whether they can handle it is another story
After being denied his kill and leaving the armed forces, he would go on to become a corrupt District Attorney in Gotham City. Thanks a lot, All State.
@@Tigershark_3082 I'm sure you could probably do fine, i was just having a particularly bad that day that day and it only took one little thing to push me over. I very quickly had my shit together again after that incident.
@@DJSbros No dude, when I say I wouldn't do well in boot camp, I mean it. Due to a mix of my autism spectrum disorder, severe depression and anxiety, and my general mental health. I'm afraid that I would turn into a "private pyle" situation, like what happened in FMJ (just instead of causing harm to the DI, it would only be to myself). I'd probably end up relapsing into self-harm at bootcamp, which would not be good. Not only that, but I'd probably end up bringing my entire team's effectiveness down. I'm also afraid that I would turn out as a total failure.
@@hunterd3142 the gist of it, these soldier boys went through alot of hazing, redundant drills, and unbearable boredom due to lack of action They finally put their boots on the ground hoping for action These two guys line up a shot on an enemy high ranking officer Major barges in unannounced to cancel sniper's orders and called in an airstrike instead They begged to take a shot but denied They went home without firing a single shot All those training, hazing, boredom, mental struggle was for nothing
I think its also reflective of the overall moral tonality expressed in each generation. War and death were all too common in the early days. Our great grandfathers saw enough ugliness in the world to try and do everything to prevent it. For them killing the enemy to create a better tomorrow is the lesser of two evils than if they allowed evil to prevail. However despite this, they still feel the reluctance to have to kill but going home makes them go forth. My generation is a bit more comforted and safe. I think of fight club to really drive my point home. "We are the middle children of history, no purpose or place, no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives." So, it seems to me that the era of mass consumerism and relative safety have made us impotent to the very nature of the world around us. We dont think about war or death because it doesnt really exsist in our world. And growing up on television and video games makes us want to be the heros of our story, we are so shielded from violence we desire to see it any chance we get.
@@rvalle11 Id argue that we may have a slight advantage over China in terms of military. But then again, I feel like most Chinese people dont really want a war either. Many of them would probably wave white flags when they see our tanks roll in but I wouldn't say its because they are cowards in any way, its simply because many Chinese people dont even like China. The real threat would come from the loyalists of the Communist party. My dad served in Kuwait and he said that most people were willing to surrender under USA. Saddam Hussein's Personal security however was a different story
@@CultofGrace it’s good to see people talking truth brother. The US has the most powerful military force in the history of mankind. No one, not even China or Russia can stand toe to toe. I would say America would be more keen for action than China. As you said, the Chinese people are not aggressive, it is the disgusting communists who push it. But then again, it’s good to have such a reckoning of a military as long as it’s the right hands, when it’s not wielded correctly or aptly, then problems occur. For instance, the withdrawal of Afghanistan. But we all know who’s responsible for that but we are told he’s the most popular President in history, or so the establishment says. Stay strong 💪
@@romyarmada9580 Thanks for your reply. I have to confess, in my comment I made the distinction between previous generations response to war and my generations response. I did not serve in the US military. I always felt like I could but I never did. I suppose its cowardice. However, war could be very much inevitable and right in our front yards and sooner or later some of us may not have much of a say on whether we agree to war or not. I see Afghanistan as no accident. Biden knew what he was doing withdrawing and even leaving some Americans behind. He seems more interested in demonizing those who refuse the covid vaccine than destroying the Taliban. We may be on the verge of another world wide shift in power yet again. Govts. all over the world have become way too powerful and are slowly subjecting its own people by eroding at the peoples rights little by little. Its happening in France and the UK and its happening here. I dont want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it seems to me that when those in power take complete control, they wont have much of a need for God fearing patriots. Americans will be Americas public enemy no. 1 because of the bureaucrats and oligarchs stuffing their pockets. All they want is slaves. But the people want freedom. I hope it doesn't come to this but if it does, i hope to see you in texas cause thats probably where the resistance is going to be headquartered.
This scene is catastrophically underrated for their skill depicting what it’s like training and training for one specific purpose to get your opportunity stripped from you. Still one of my favs
While his reaction was a bit much, I get it. You trained hard as fuck, went through heaps of shit, evolved, adapted, became an instrument of death and then you are finally presented with an opportunity to display your skills. You bust your ass to get into the firing position, and you are zoned in, on the cusp of achieving your mission and then bam, some brass neck turns up with his lawn chair (Literally, watch the video again), and is like "Naw bro. Your time was wasted, Im about to spend several millions in tax payer money with a single radio call"
Dude was a felon and was going to get discharged, he wanted an excuse to take a life for his own. He's been in war even if he's never personally dropped an enemy fighter, there's no reason why he can't leave the battlefield with pride any less than everyone else. This is the guy NOBODY wants in their unit, who only thinks of themselves rather than putting their teammates and the mission above themselves.
your math is way off cowboy, most of the dudes in desert storm would of been younger, so more like the kids of desert storm. There was one footsoldier dude who fought in both conflicts. pretty sure he died in iraq
My buddy who was in army described just how terrible officers are, and how much of a bunch of douchebags they can be. This scene pretty much shows the closest possible reality what those on the ground and even behind the lines go through.
This has similar vibes from when we came back from a convoy. I was part of the QRF at the FOB and got back after a 16 hour convoy cause some supply convoy got ambushed. Right when we get back our BC is chewing our ass out for being dirty and had some hairs on our face. He was in brand new cammies clean shave and ate well
I never understood this scene. If they had permission from the Colonel, they could've just taken the shot without even saying a word to the other Marine who just randomly walked in.
Alot of people see Jarhead as a realistic war film, if not one of the most realistic. A war film that takes a different direction, that instead of showing the brutality it shows the searing monotony of war and military life, a look I don't reckon very many have seen before. That for me is what made this film stand out. However after serving in the military myself I see this movie as less realistic and more like war poetry. While alot of those who serve fit the more classic conservative motif, Anthony Swofford is a very liberal metropolitan individual. He's a creative type, a writer by trade and an intellectual. So it's interesting to see the memoirs of war written by someone of this pursasion. In that I think like I said we get more war poetry. The film is very avant garde in that way. Like slam poetry written for the military. The screenplay reads like that as well. So instead of realism it's more a bit romantic and fantastical. Very dramatic at times even more so than maybe it really would have been in real life. That however is it's charm as the film delivers it's point across quite well.
I think it helps the world understand what fighting for the world superpower in military spending and air force technology looks like, a boring job whose employees are the best in the business in following the boss's orders and reading the instruction manual. Almost every other country in the world cannot rely on so much overwhelming technologically superior firepower, it's like comparing alien technology to traditional warfare, it highlights how going to war against America is not just futile, but awaiting death from a God on high whose day job is to make you disappear from the POV of a satellite picture.
the most baffling issue is how did the major ever get cleared for combat ops if his knees are so bad from college football that he has a grunt carrying a picnic chair for him to sit on all the time
I wonder if that was some kind of subtle story bit This guy is portrayed as an asshole, and here he’s once again brought in to be one, so I’m thinking they’re implying he got in underhandedly perhaps (If you really want to go deep, I wonder if the race card was used)
Military industry is too important dawg, they prefer to spend more on a single bomb that cost 750 000$ US to make their friends richer but I agree with you
Alot of people don't like this movie, but it's honestly one of my favorites, because it accurately portrays the severe brainwashing each marine goes through. We are trained to be the perfect killing machine, where it's all we ever want and desire. Unfortunately, that doesn't really translate well in the civilian world, and it still fucks with me each and every day that I am essentially useless until the next war is declared.
It's not brainwashing as it is portraited and this is why people don't like the movie, i have met some old marines and they are just normal person like us when retired
Imagine being a marine and thinking you’re a “perfect killing machine” 😂😂😂 Lmao any low level ww1 or ww2 grunt would literally eat you alive, people are so soft these days
@@lucignolo8333 what a weird flex dude, coming from someone who will ever amount to being a marine, nor has himself enlisted during ww1 or ww2 So you're pretty much lower than all of those standards you just set
@@iamwhoimnotimnotwhoiam4431 wow you’re american and you still don’t understand what the word “flex” means. I wasn’t flexing, i was laughing at you for considering yourself a perfect killing machine when actually you’re just an illiterate sad man with a rifle. Marines are actually bad shots and it’s pretty widespread knowledge, most of people who shoot for hobby are a better shot than most soldiers or marines
I’m guessing everyone mad at the scene never watched the movie. It’s not him mad he didn’t get to kill anyone. He wasn’t even gonna be the guy killing him he was the spotter. His whole squad was put through hell for months with no mission. Then they finally get a mission and right before they complete it, it gets stolen. Not about killing someone. About having your whole purpose stripped from you
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I love how they showed the explosion through the reflection
Roger Deakins is the man
@@bopper172 you mean videography
Imagine spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on explosions and you don’t even take record the actual explosion lol
@@marcosandiego619 they most likely had an extra angle just in case the one in the reflection looked like shit. Besides, what was really important to capture was the disappointment in the character's eyes. The explosion wasnt all that important
Even the big explosion is just seen in a reflection, so we feel the same dissatisfaction that the character does
Imagine going through the All Ghillied Up mission in real life, had the clear shot on Zahkaev and some officer bust in and tell you an air strike is on the way.
Or right before youre about to throw thaf knife into Shepherds eye and Nikolai tells you not to because the pit instructor from the beginning of the game was about to RPG him
Have you finished the ARMA3 main story?
@chad his arm got shot off, not his leg
@chad it was his arm, not his leg
Imagine saying imagine, the gayest meme of all time.
some context - the spotter had a criminal record that he hid from recruiters in order to enlist. by the time this scene happened, he had already been found out and everyone knew he would get discharged when he got back. this was his last chance to contribute to the war, which is why he broke down when that chance was taken away from him.
He had a chance to prove he was more than a criminal. He just showed he deserved what he'd get!
@@kevinzhang6623What
@kevinzhang6623 deserved what? For telling a rude officer to let him continue with his shot? The man was certainly more than a criminal. He was a Marine.
@@kincaidwolf5184for wanting to kill a man so badly that he’d attack his superior officer in the battle field. I know he just took the phone but still. There are plenty of ways to serve. But it is important that those with criminal records be monitored before heading to war zones. You don’t want to send psychos or traitors out there, you’ll make things worse.
@MegaNinjaRyan Half of them Officers are clowns and rude. There is a way to lead and command. You don't bulldoze your way in and treat people poorly. There is a reason why retention rate is so poor.
Ya gotta see the whole film to understand the spotter's emotions here. Plus he knew he was about to be kicked out of the corps for lying on his application. This was his only chance to perform the duty he so passionately signed up for!!
exactly so many people in this comments section are judging them so hard about how "ridiculous" it is. In reality it isnt ridiculous at all but the only perspective they consider is their own rather than how it feels to be them.
Plus wasn’t he the one who’s wife sent the video of her cheating also.
@@jacob-bq4fp no, that wasn't Troy. That was another Marine. Troy did however step in and stop several others from watching the video a second time.
@@emmettredding1 oh ok, I saw the movie for ever ago couldn’t remember. Thanks for the quick response though man.
@@jacob-bq4fp imagine being that marine tho. You're on deployement serving your country and instead of a letter saying she is breaking up with you or waiting til you come back home, your wife sends u a video when she is getting railed by your neighbour and you are across the globe with idiots like ahab the arab guy and have to stand out with that shit for god knows how long at the same time you never know when you're gonna get mortared or blown up by the enemy
Imagine being trained to cook a burger. Your whole mind is reprogrammed to cook perfect burgers. You finally go to the big kitchen and get the buns, lettuce, tomato, and right before throwing the patty on the grill. The chef stops you and tells you I’m going to get someone else to do it
Or the customer gets up and heads to Mickey Ds
Cooking a burger is a bit different than personally ending someone's life. I understand that you are trained to do that, but damn that is a really fucked mentality. How do we integrate someone like that back into society after their service? Or are you saying that military training is an intentional one way path, intended to use a human as a tool and then throw it away when its not useful anymore?
@@trumpetperson11 Put them as private security personnel or as mercenaries
@@rickv9180 Private security doesn't just get to shoot anyone they want. Most of the time spent on job will just be standing/sitting around, and rarely do they ever have any kind of 'battle'. If anything, the mostly break up fist fights. And mercenaries are not exactly an integration back into the regular workforce.
@@trumpetperson11 Yeah, it is sort of a one-way path if you get as far into the job as a lot do.
Looks like they're in good hands.
I appreciate that reference
Noone is ever in good hands with Allstate. Literally falsified information to get us to pay so they wouldn't have to. Haysbert is great, but actors should have a little more responsibility when deciding to represent companies that are blatantly as dishonest as Allstate. Avoid them no matter what.
Bro you didn't!
@@mo0seonfire my boy just let the joke be funny
Damn funny🤣
They had permission from the Colonel anyway. They could have take the shot and the Major couldn’t have done shit
Ive always thought this and its literally a MAJOR hole in the story
Actually no, in a combat situation, you go off the last order given, the shot would've spooked the remaining Iraqis to them possibly flee the airfield.
@@joshuaparrott2458 No, a Major would typically not be in the direct line of command.
If he had taken the shot, he would have been in the right; however, the major being butthurt would NJP them as disrespecting an officer out of spite.
@@cpK054L
I seriously wouldn't the ignore the Major, if he orders to stand down, you stand down.
It sucks.
@@joshuaparrott2458 In my experience, Majors are typically the Battalion XO's.
aka Admin Jockeys.
They should never be in the line company, let alone in a sniper nest.
That Major was in the wrong place, and should not be his job to call in airstrikes.
He said Bravo 4?
That's weapons, not a direct line.
Imagine going through hell, your only purpose is to kill one man, and right before you do so someone takes it from you. Damn
it's a sad reality. They don't even want to be there, easily 99% want to serve their family, friends and country proud. The dude toying with corpses tho, different story.
then to have that be ripped away from you, by someone with no authority to do so, right as you are going to fire your first round. It's fascinating but horrifying to watch him explain himself through his sobs. Very impressive acting for a small niche of those who truly understand.
Not to mention it’s the Allstate guy...
@@monkeepox2227 proud, murican army, same sentence, 99% for family n.country, man everybody laughing at muricans joining the army to go sideways with a mustang and.have their first victims on the streets lmao that comment was funnier than mine i should become a comedian
@@monkeepox2227 its a troll though no need to send the army here madoods. But the majority of those young people that join the army are doing it for the money. If its to impress your family, change your family. If its to impress someone, change that someone. If its for your country...lmao squared. It should never be normal and likeable being a war pown when not forced or in a desperate position or if not ok in your brain. And these dudes should be happy that didnt have to fight or kill someone. They were lucky. Noone knows how murder gonma mess u up before it happens. If they wanted to feel that army is pointless they should have that opinion from.the beggining. But i guess thats a wrong thought and almost suicidal when in the army so fak what i just said. I know thats not how stuff works and army and war cant just not exist, but that shouldnt make anyone feel.proud for being a soldier if not to directly protect his or her loved ones
@@monkeepox2227 why does the person who want to take the shot want to take it so badly. like why is it hurting him a lot that he couldnt take the kill
My mate hassan minding his business not knowing two guys a few football stadiums away are arguing about who gonna kill him
Hassan is always the guy who gets fucked over like this smh
Lol
lmao
If Hassan was minding his business his ass would be sat in Iraq not Kuwait.
Meanwhile some fucking desk-jockey with bad knees uses an expensive, tax-paid method of taking him out. Press F Hassan.
1:38 “When you were only one kill away from the Tactical Nuke.”
😂😂
Bruhhhh
Dead 💀
The black dude came in with the Airstrike ready and killstole it. Hate when it happens.
Come on dude🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This guy should have had more big roles. He’s a great actor. I always get excited when I see him show up in random movies.
Is he the actor who played a clown that eats children? The plot is that this clown suit is cursed and turns the wearer into a monster and has to eat children inorder to lift the curse.
wrong on two counts
1) the movie he’s talking about is “Clown”, not It
2) peter skarsgard and bill skarsgard are not related
Really? I have seen him quite a few big roles and movies! He was in the last batman!!
@@conformistforever It's Peter Sarsgaard, not Skarsgard.
He’s freaking brilliant
When the COD kid rages over kill stealing...
its double weapon xp weekend bro
YOU FUCKING DESK JOCKEY 🤣
@@SooSmokie those office based soldiers who don't want or never got a chance to be in the frontline.
😂😂
Call of duty is too over rated, and yes officers in the military are desk jockeys by far, fact!
War is hell, constant evil everywhere even when you don't even kill. This whole movie is tough to watch but friends have told me is pretty realistic. Damn..
the part they are talking about being realistic is the bordom everything else is a load of shit if that guy broke down like that not being able to take the shot he would have been a psych discharge instantly.
@@hardwirecars Dude they wouldn't have psych discharged him even if they weren't in a warzone. Shut up.
@@hardwirecars Have you served?
@@Conmon115 No :( long story short version after 9/11 i was graduating in 05 so i was gonna join the airforce (wanted to fly f-22's found out that probably would not happen so i fell in love with the viper f-16) but i got stuck in a wheelchair yeah but being from Texas I have a lot of friends that did serve all the way from the Marines to the Coasties.
This movie is overdramatized as shit, anyone woke by this shit is getting castrated.
So let me get this straight, a Major from another platoon shows up unannounced at the front line to call in an airstrike while also ordering the sniper team to disregard their orders from a Colonel to take the shot......... What?! What the fuck!?
An infantry major would be battalion XO or BN S3, having nothing to do with any particular platoon.
@@jonathanbaird8109 In the movie isn't he said to not be part of them?
@@richpryor9650 I haven't seen it in many years. They might mean he isn't part of the STA platoon.
The scene was to demonstrate how wars had changed.
They had trained and given everything to be there and .......... They are not needed.
All that work for nothing to sit back and watch as the war is won with planes and booms.
So why did we have to come here and get stuck out in this shit hole of a dessert for six months if the dam fighter jocks get all the glory and we just get to watch the light show.
@@JackTalyorD yeah def a weird period of warfare for America. You could have spent nearly a year deployed for desert shield and barely seen any ground combat, but then a few Years later Task force ranger and 10th mountain were in more sustained combat than most guys will ever see.
In other words, the sniper team was sent on a mission ostensibly to take out a target.
In reality, the major asked the colonel to send a couple of unpopular marines to clear the path for IEDs and traps while the major followed closely in safety.
In that morning, the major probably woke up late which was why he was in such a big hurry to get there before the snipers took the shot.
Doubtful but ok
What?
Cannon fodder?
@@kishascape tbf those kinds of tactics happened an awful lot during Vietnam
@@kingarthur8616 fragging unpopular officers was also really common in Vietnam
1:30
That’s incredible acting
The pain of not being able to get your words out
The wave of anger and sadness of ruining the one moment you had to express what you were going to say in the best way and now it’s all....fucked
Yeahhhhh... thats not what this is about.
Shit i forgot this was a movie.
He was having a PTSD attack.
Okay to people saying it’s not about that.
I’m aware it’s a PTSD attack, it can still manifest itself as near identical to any trauma response. Trying to make sense of the conflicting horrible feelings within you.
@@sbraypaynt I’m the only one here who’s mentioned PTSD. Why not just reply to me? Lol. Anyway, your framing is just not quite right.. Doesn’t make sense really. I can’t make sense of your statement just now either. Sounds like some sc***l sh**ter type shit. Anyway, if you have anger issues resulting from trauma that means you have PTSD. If you get enraged when you can’t express yourself properly or fully then you might have some other diagnosis, but that’s not necessarily a trauma response. To be clear, anger and frustration CAN be a trauma response, but what is portrayed here in this clip is explicitly a PTSD attack.. That’s what it is and that’s what it’s about.
I like that the corporal let it go, he could see that this wasn’t about disrespect, the guy was actually losing it.
I imagine preparing yourself to kill someone is requires a lot of emotional discipline and stress, so without the release, you become insane and erratic. Makes sense for him to react like that.
even after killing someone, it could still be argued that the stress, specifically that those soldiers went through, drove them insane and erratic. it didn't matter if he got the shot or not.
@@cmc3223 I disagree slightly, these guys are conditioned so that killing is second nature, and they actually enjoy it, as that's the only thing that gets them through the ordeal of battle. I think it would've provided him relief, even if it was brief.
@@ass640 That's like literally what PTSD is. You get so conditioned to view human beings in a completely different way, to deal with stress that is entirely outside of the bounds of normal human interaction, that you come back and find you've forgotten how to be a civilian.
@@Multifixated Well that’s more operant conditioning. PTSD would depend on how distressed they are, coming home and trying to function. Likely, there would be problems, but PTSD is not a given.
@@cmc3223 disagree slightly as well
I’ve come across some situational irony that is very interesting. After watching this video, I scrolled down to the youtube algorithm’s next video recommendation and the first on the list was a scene from the WW2 movie Fury (2014), set in 1945 where army rookie (logan Lerman) is forced to execute a german soldier by his commanding sergeant (brad Pitt). The contrasting mindsets of the soldiers in these two different scenes when it comes to killing are somewhat disturbing.
I think it's mainly due to the men in the gulf war being volunteers whilst those in ww2 being conscripted
@@The_Struggler_ excellent point
Same here. That’s my first clip I’ve seen of Fury and I saw it like last week
Its either kill or be killed. If youre drafted you dont HAVE to kill but go to jail or be killed/deadweight in a squad. But if you decide to kill youre not necessarily a hero. Just perpetuating more hate and violence.
I have the same recommended videos. For youtube to so easily demonetize personal videos of others, yet recommend these videos of war sure says a lot.
Precision shot from a trained sniper: $1 for the bullet.
Guided bomb from a jet fighter: $20k - $100k for each bomb depending on guidance system, plus $25k in jet fuel for each hour in flight.
The US is 28 trillion in debt
wow ur so smart bro
Unfortunately only half of that debt comes out of defense spending
And you know what, US also give million $ millitary equipment for Taliban now for free.
You're forgetting the traing and equipment that comes from one soldier. Which is close to about $100,000 if the average is true in several public sources. A literal wiki would give you a tough estimate.
@@thesaintsrowspartan ok fair enough. But then we also have to consider the training of a jet pilot, which I’m sure reaches into the millions. The fuel alone for them to go up and spend thousands of hours in flight training is probably 8 figures, easily
What’s interesting about this is how Skarsgards character in the rest of the movie is the level headed one the whole time. In fact the other marines have their own break downs and outbursts and he’s there holding it together. Then when he’s able to finally put his skill and collected ness to use he can’t.
It’s a great fucking movie
Being in the field also does wierd things to you emotionally. You get fuckall sleep, The food is shit and pumped full of sugar and salt, you are usually either too cold or too hot and you don't get to be inside for days or weeks at a time. You know how emotional you can get when you have a really bad hangover? It's like that but for days. I've seen people lose their shit over the smallest of things on like the 4th day in the field.
@@Fielder5757I know that my worst times in the Military have been in the field.
I think what makes this scene even more sad is.
Before getting deployed, Swofford, Troy and other Marines can be seen watching the air raid scene from the film Apocalypse Now and are all cheering and basically getting rowdy as they are fueled with excitement at what the war is like as depicted from that scene from Apocalypse Now. Swofford and Troy soon realize that their war is a very different one, one that involves the men sitting at base camp every day, staring out at the horizon, waiting for the enemy. They are not really doing anything useful and are essentially just "wasting their skills"
When they are finally given the opportunity to do something useful (Take out the enemy general). Both men are pumped and ready. I've HAVE NEVER served before so of course I know nothing about it but in my opinion, the way the men probably felt during that moment resembles a player having spent his life practicing and training in the gym, working hard and grinding his teeth for hours everyday, finally being told he will be put in by coach next possession after sitting on the bench the whole season.
Swofford and Troy are about to make the shot before they are interrupted by the Major who tells them that he has ordered an airstrike to take out the airport. Swofford and Troy try desperately to argue with the Major to let them take the shot who refuses. Troy gets increasingly frustrated and starts lashing out at the Major, yelling and cussing at him in disappointment and anger. He feels as though he had wasted all his time and was not allowed to do the job he was trained for.
Referring back to the analogy : The player gets tapped by the head coach to enter the game but right as he is about to enter, coach pulls him out and puts the star player in, denying the player the opportunity.
I remember reading a comment somewhere that said that Troy never had the order from the Colonel and that he just made it up. This can be evident by the long pause and the shaking hand as he talks into the reciever.
Finally, the quote towards the end of the movie "I never shot my rifle" or something like that represents exactly how the men felt. Not able to put their skills to the test, sitting around everyday wasting time essentially.
Just my thoughts on it.
I'm not sure who it was from or where I saw it, but the this translation and it is very accurate according to a lot of former service members especially from the Gulf.
Furthermore, they are Marines, trained to fight than any other branches in the Armed forces. They were getting thrilled and excited to kick ass but as you said they were just sitting in the base wasting time.
Shows how much it fucked their brains up though. Imagine being that excited to kill someone. Bit different to being called onto ball court
K...
It’s is truly like that we get trained basically and sit wait for order where looking action the whole time it’s nerve racking to only find it’s nothing but just u training and training to know your skills
Very cool
As a Call of Duty veteran I feel his pain. Too real.
Kill stealers man…
As a battlefield 1 veteran the assist 10 points drive me insane
He wanted to run over there real quick and tea-bag the corpse too
@@5552-d8b Assists: 21
Kills: 2
Deaths: 8
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@@voltaire5427 so many “assist counts as kill”
Peter Sarsgaard is insanely underrated as an actor
I only like him in this clip
1:56 on of my favorite lines in film history.
The cold delivery after this dude just cried his heart out. There’s no room for emotion war.
That’s what I’ve always thought. 👍
Peter saarsgard is one of the most underrated actors in Hollywood.
I only like him in this clip
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how great the acting is in the scene
This never would have happened with Geico.
That sniper team definitely wasn't in "good hands".
I cancelled my insurance with Allstate after watching this movie
This movie is in good hands
Bruh😅
Imagine those Iraqi guys looking at the killcam and seeing the Allstate guy calling in an airstrike🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Edit: Thanks for the 1k likes
Guess they weren't in good hands.
LOL!
Liam Mohammed he’s the reason why Allstate is banned over there 😂
This is the most demented joke lol loved it
‘’Watch this it’ll blow your fucking minds’’
I'm sure he's going to do well in civilian life.
He didn't. He died.
@@phuckerpower I was always confused how he died. He killed himself right?
@@collinm.4652 probably, it was my thought too when I saw that scene. I'd have to look up the story, the movie is based on a real person I believe so he'd have said why.
@@collinm.4652 hit black ice on a road going to work
@@doom8274 oof, Imagine fighting through a war and that’s what gets ya.
I kind get them, these guys spent years training for this, then a war comes along and they finally get deployed to said war, while there they spent most of the war just patrolling the dessert with very minimum to no contact with the enemy, in fact the closest they got to actual combat in the entire movie was when at the beginning of their deployment during the moter strike from the enemy and when they got friendly fucked by those A-10s, then they get a mission that would technically validate their years of hard training when all of a sudden some pencils pushing "i want to advance my career" asshole officer comes along and takes your mission away, especially when, in this case, they have a perfect shot, I don't think I would have reacted the same way, but I would most definitely by as pissed off as him, I mean seriously, that officer could have not been an asshole and let them take the shot right when they air strike came or something, I don't know just saying
Mate they're not hunting deer.... I'd think that anyone would consider themselves lucky that that they didn't have to resort to killing somebody during the war.
@@fleshwound5149 these men were trained for specifically this though. They spend long times ready to engage, along with the boredom the thirst for it would grow. I can see why he’d want the shot because in his mind that enemy isn’t considered a “human” but an “enemy” or a “target”. Different mindsets.
@@fleshwound5149 hey dude, yeah you've never meet a sniper have you? Specially marine snipers, shooting and killing a target with a single shot is kind of a religion for them so trust me when I tell you, when deployed they want to kill something, Specially when they spent most of their deployment being bored as shit
He totally could have let them get the shot and could've celebrate with them and all friendssssssssss
All they had to do was stay in another ten years and they'd have gotten enough combat to last a lifetime in Afghanistan.
Be careful Allstate guy has good hands for a reason 👊
But bad knees >_>
Bruh, he didn't even have the rifle in hand and he's flipping out.
Dude's mind is scrambled.
A true spotter gets a sense of fulfillment when the shot is cleared and executed correctly.
In this case they’ve been out eying the same people for maybe hours on in watching their every move, every twitch.
That alone will drive a sane man, you know the rest.
@@dn7636 days.
The spotter is actually a better shot than the one with the rifle. I know that sounds crazy, but it's true. It takes a lot to be a spotter.
@@DracoPadilla "I know that sounds crazy"
Said by anyone who never knew what the f they were talking about.
@@Erik-cl5ff Look it up bro. Even the guy that used to hold the world record for longest sniper kill said it.
This is the felling I gone through when my buddy stole my bot kill in pubg
Imagine playing pubg
xXSniperWolfXx I know right it’s fun af
Yeah pubg got some of the most satisfying guns and bullet physics too bad it's dead and full of bots
Imagine playing pubg. Filthy peasant
dad it ain’t dead jus play ranked
- We have permission.
- Negative
- Nah man, too little too late. Fire when ready.
Bad knees. College football.
Looking back this movie was a masterpiece
It was, and I completely understand the anger and frustration they all felt about being sent to fight a war that they never actually fired a shot in. All that training and preparation was completely for nothing. They felt that they had been pawns in a limpdick game, and not without justification.
Wasting thousands to get a couple of kills instead of wasting two bullets
Remember killing one would make the other one run so he would only get 1 kill
@@shadeztheone7369 Yeah but with an Airstrike you can't really GUARENTEE the death of the targets, they may survive etc
imagine if the bombing run didnt kill the target LOL
They would simply put the blame on sniper
@@kysz1 that sucks
Me already seen this scene and knowing the channel
"There are gonna be a lot of beeps"
They missed one hahah
The college line is a big thing, OCS guys who were lucky to have the full fun college experience, then go to OCS and come out thinking they are superior is a big thing in the military.
I thought it was implying this guy got in the military underhandedly maybe with connections or possibly using his race as a weapon
@@TheKpa11His race as a weapon? In the early 2000’s?
@@Jimbulbee
Good point actually. So maybe he has some cause for sympathy in that regard.
Marine NROTC takes a lot of the fun out of college, and you still have to go through OCS, although it's only 6 weeks instead of the 10 you have to do if you're coming in straight from the civilian world.
And this folks is why Saarsgard is regarded as one of the best up and coming actors in Hollywood
This movie came out in 2005…
@@lightningbolt4419dang 18 year's ago
I don’t know why he was so upset, he was in good hands the whole time.
alright. this comment got me, touche and well played.
Well done sir.
The reality, regardless of what Swaford says, is that a Marine Corps Major would most certainly have allowed them to take the shot if they had a clean one.
People survive airstrikes all the time. The STA would be normally tasked to make sure the individual target didn't, regardless of the strike outcome.
And yes, STAs are weird MFers.
Go back to the scope. Fake "Ahh, target moving to bunker, taking the shot".
This is me using my vtol last round on one guy in search and destroy.
wait? you can actually get enough points to call in a vtol in search n destroy?
@@jauzaafaishalahmadpadmadis3846
yeah if you're not a scrub
@Francisco Santana but your points resets in every round, and you need 8 kills to do so, without respawns you can only kill 5 enemies, unless you have a care package or something
@Francisco Santana we must be playing diffrent versions then, because mine always resets everytime the round changes, even though i lived throughout the whole thinf
@Francisco Santana i’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic. but, the last cod i played was bo2 i cant remember if the score streak resets each round in snd. but it does reset in codm
Every gamer can relate.
When you go for the knife and your teammate sniper steals it from you
@@nicholaspatton5590 🙏
*CRIES*, IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT, THIS IS OUR JOB!!!
@@benogilvie6770i hate schaff because i hate family guy and bad movies and bad animated shows ok?
Anytime I enter a room I always say "Bad knees, college football." It gets a laugh about 18 percent of the time.
18 percent of the time it works EVERY time
That scholarship got him into the Marines
Well i'm Argentine and we play good at Soccer
You enlist to serve your country and take out the bad guys. You spend years training under grueling conditions until everything in your life revolves around that rifle and taking the shot. You get shipped out to some sandy hellhole where you're separated from everything you've previously known, forced to endure constant discomfort, boredom, isolation, and the ever-present danger of being attacked and killed at any moment. You watch friends die right in front of you, sometimes to friendly fire, leaving you frustrated and feeling impotent. Finally you receive the command to put all your training to use and take down a high level baddie. Finally you'll be able to make a difference and justify all that you've had to go through. You get to where you need to be and spend hour after hour waiting, preparing, psyching yourself up, until you're in the correct state of mind. Your target presents himself. You have that perfect shot lined up. It's all finally about to be worth it. There's finally going to be some meaning meaning behind it all...and then BAM, some jackass with a radio barges in and tells you not to bother because he's going to have some pilots who've spent the last 12 hours sipping coffee at an airbase miles from there carpet bomb the whole site. You're not needed.
The guy overreacted, obviously, but his feelings are understandable.
That was hardly an overreaction.
@@JustMarty war in ukraine has thousands of volunteers like this guy and many engagements are drone, arty, air, and missile dominanted. With few times of rest and sometimes fewer supplies. Yet they all seem to crack jokes like nothing and come back home fine (both ukrainian military and foreign volunteers).
And mind you the fight there is far more desperate than here. Not being able to use the skill you trained for is bad but that's an overreaction. Volunteers and conscripts die in droves to arty and drome drops and will likely rarely see the enemy every couple of days, and likely not shoot to avoid getting detected by others. The mentality of these soldiers are so vastly different that there's no wonder U.S marines come back with ptsd. One is trained to kill the enemy the other is trained to protect what's behind them.
Im 14 and this is deep
Never watched this movie. In short clips it looks solid, as an expression of art. They do exist, yet not to say, they all are.
Jarhead is a movie about innocence, reality and expectations.
At the beginning of the movie, Swafford reads the Stranger by Camus. So during the movie I couldn’t stop seeing the whole thing through the lens of that book.
During the first part, during the training, Swafford is very similar to Meursault. Detached, he almost seems like he is in an absurd dream where he doesn’t want to be here. We barely know anything about him yet we observe every events through his point-of-view.
These absurd events are the training. They are conditioned to kill, to be brutal, to obey. They are transformed into killers. This is visible when they cheer the bombing scene of Apocalypse Now. This scene is anti-war, and shouldn’t be cheered. Yet they do, because they were conditioned to, very similarly to Full Metal Jacket. There is clear homages to FMJ during the training part of the movie.
And this is where our expectations are set. In The Stranger by Camus and in FMJ, the protagonist loose their innocence by killing someone. In the Stranger it comes almost as surprise, as a weird turn of event, when Meursault suddenly kills the Algerian, barely realizing he is pressing the trigger. In Full Metal Jacket it’s the dramatic ending of the movie, the culmination of their training.
Yet, in Jarhead, this never happens. Our expectations, and those of the protagonists are set. Swafford wants to be Meursault, but unlike Meursault, he lives in a reality which catch him. It’s gritty, and boring. He doesn’t get to do anything. And he isn’t ready for this, because he didn’t realize what it meant. So does Troy, and it drives him mad.
Troy goes insane because he knows that now, there is no going back, the Marine Corp changed him into something else he wasn’t before. Yet by stealing his kill, they made all that changing void, useless, absurd.
The only ones that do not go mad are Fowler, because he is a psycho and transforming him into a killing machine didn’t require a lot of effort, and the Sergeant, because he knew what he was signing for, and loves this job and the reality, and doesn’t have any expectations. (He basically says it in the scene with the oil fields).
After going through hell, after going through a training that’s one way, and can never be reversed (as Swafford says “his hands will always remember the rifle”) he never gets to be Meursault or Pvt. Joker. All of it was for nothing, we and them never got our expectations fulfilled.
Honestly, you could watch the training od FMJ followed by the Iraq war part of Jarhead and it would still work for both. The whole point of Full Metal Jacket is that if you train soldiers to be killing machines and let them loose in a warzone, they will go insane. Almost oppositely, but weirdly the same, the point of Jarhead is that if you train soldiers to be killing machines, and then make them do nothing, they will equally get insane.
The book is called "THE STRANGER" by Albert Camus.
@@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516 That's what I meant, I just translated from french and made a mistake of using "of" instead of "by". Sorry, english is not my first language !
I'll edit and correct.
excellent analysis. The way u put it makes this movie a psychological horror material
This flick captures the experience I was described by an acquaintance of mine who served in Afghanistan or Iraq, can’t remember. Said all they did all day, was stand around and fry in the heat; never saw combat.
Complaining that they didn't get to shoot at people is concerning
@@CHROMIUMHEROmusic Is it though? The movie is supposed to encapsulate how militaries indoctrinate and break down people until they view killing as an end instead of a mean, the breakdown is supposed to show just how much of his personal value was dependent on that implanted goal & how the denial of that left him an incoherent mess, a jarhead without coherence or purpose. There's a reason the vast majority of soldiers in the 20th century, when not in immediate danger, wouldn't shoot to kill (or to hit) their enemies, it wasn't until well after Vietnam and the introduction of systemic psychological manipulation that the majority would.
@UnitedStatesofAmerica1984he wasn't crazy , just a passionate soldier angry at being denied the freedom to do his job by some pencil pusher with a stick up his ass
My cousin's husband spent months roasting in the Afghan sun as a glorified mall security guy , he would have loved to see some action
No one volunteers for combat unless they got a thirst for action , whether they can handle it is another story
"Hitman 45, this is Allstate, Are You In Good Hands?"
this is the feeling when someone takes credit over something u worked hard for.
this really does feel like a legendary scene
Damn the Allstate guy is hardcore.
After being denied his kill and leaving the armed forces, he would go on to become a corrupt District Attorney in Gotham City. Thanks a lot, All State.
Damn that was me playing Warthunder in a nutshell
@Thanos yeah no one cares about you
Imagine watching this video, and then writing a comment about imagining what you just saw in the video
I had an outburst out of frustration like this during basic once and oh golly did I have a bad day.
This is why I'm not gonna join the military. I'm not mentally fit for it.
@@Tigershark_3082 I'm sure you could probably do fine, i was just having a particularly bad that day that day and it only took one little thing to push me over. I very quickly had my shit together again after that incident.
@@DJSbros No dude, when I say I wouldn't do well in boot camp, I mean it. Due to a mix of my autism spectrum disorder, severe depression and anxiety, and my general mental health. I'm afraid that I would turn into a "private pyle" situation, like what happened in FMJ (just instead of causing harm to the DI, it would only be to myself). I'd probably end up relapsing into self-harm at bootcamp, which would not be good. Not only that, but I'd probably end up bringing my entire team's effectiveness down. I'm also afraid that I would turn out as a total failure.
I don't think most people understand this movie, based on the comment section.
What’s the movie’s purpose?
@@hunterd3142 the gist of it, these soldier boys went through alot of hazing, redundant drills, and unbearable boredom due to lack of action
They finally put their boots on the ground hoping for action
These two guys line up a shot on an enemy high ranking officer
Major barges in unannounced to cancel sniper's orders and called in an airstrike instead
They begged to take a shot but denied
They went home without firing a single shot
All those training, hazing, boredom, mental struggle was for nothing
@@LM-xh2xf thank you i was wondering why homie was trippin like that.
Yeah, imagine not seeing that there was 3(4) absolute psychopaths in that scene.
I think its also reflective of the overall moral tonality expressed in each generation. War and death were all too common in the early days. Our great grandfathers saw enough ugliness in the world to try and do everything to prevent it. For them killing the enemy to create a better tomorrow is the lesser of two evils than if they allowed evil to prevail. However despite this, they still feel the reluctance to have to kill but going home makes them go forth.
My generation is a bit more comforted and safe. I think of fight club to really drive my point home. "We are the middle children of history, no purpose or place, no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives." So, it seems to me that the era of mass consumerism and relative safety have made us impotent to the very nature of the world around us. We dont think about war or death because it doesnt really exsist in our world. And growing up on television and video games makes us want to be the heros of our story, we are so shielded from violence we desire to see it any chance we get.
Imagine China having to fight the spoilt generation of today
k l what has china even done to perpetuate a "strong" image lol. dudes can barely handle indians on their borders.
@@rvalle11 Id argue that we may have a slight advantage over China in terms of military. But then again, I feel like most Chinese people dont really want a war either. Many of them would probably wave white flags when they see our tanks roll in but I wouldn't say its because they are cowards in any way, its simply because many Chinese people dont even like China. The real threat would come from the loyalists of the Communist party. My dad served in Kuwait and he said that most people were willing to surrender under USA. Saddam Hussein's Personal security however was a different story
@@CultofGrace it’s good to see people talking truth brother. The US has the most powerful military force in the history of mankind. No one, not even China or Russia can stand toe to toe. I would say America would be more keen for action than China. As you said, the Chinese people are not aggressive, it is the disgusting communists who push it. But then again, it’s good to have such a reckoning of a military as long as it’s the right hands, when it’s not wielded correctly or aptly, then problems occur. For instance, the withdrawal of Afghanistan. But we all know who’s responsible for that but we are told he’s the most popular President in history, or so the establishment says.
Stay strong 💪
@@romyarmada9580 Thanks for your reply. I have to confess, in my comment I made the distinction between previous generations response to war and my generations response. I did not serve in the US military. I always felt like I could but I never did. I suppose its cowardice. However, war could be very much inevitable and right in our front yards and sooner or later some of us may not have much of a say on whether we agree to war or not. I see Afghanistan as no accident. Biden knew what he was doing withdrawing and even leaving some Americans behind. He seems more interested in demonizing those who refuse the covid vaccine than destroying the Taliban. We may be on the verge of another world wide shift in power yet again. Govts. all over the world have become way too powerful and are slowly subjecting its own people by eroding at the peoples rights little by little. Its happening in France and the UK and its happening here. I dont want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it seems to me that when those in power take complete control, they wont have much of a need for God fearing patriots. Americans will be Americas public enemy no. 1 because of the bureaucrats and oligarchs stuffing their pockets. All they want is slaves. But the people want freedom. I hope it doesn't come to this but if it does, i hope to see you in texas cause thats probably where the resistance is going to be headquartered.
i love the idea of bringing a lawn chair into combat because you never know when you might get to see some cool shit
This scene is catastrophically underrated for their skill depicting what it’s like training and training for one specific purpose to get your opportunity stripped from you. Still one of my favs
This is why Black Noir went crazy in the comic book version of The Boys
Sound like a call of duty voice chat everyday.
That's some crazy good acting 👏
While his reaction was a bit much, I get it. You trained hard as fuck, went through heaps of shit, evolved, adapted, became an instrument of death and then you are finally presented with an opportunity to display your skills. You bust your ass to get into the firing position, and you are zoned in, on the cusp of achieving your mission and then bam, some brass neck turns up with his lawn chair (Literally, watch the video again), and is like "Naw bro. Your time was wasted, Im about to spend several millions in tax payer money with a single radio call"
Dude was a felon and was going to get discharged, he wanted an excuse to take a life for his own. He's been in war even if he's never personally dropped an enemy fighter, there's no reason why he can't leave the battlefield with pride any less than everyone else. This is the guy NOBODY wants in their unit, who only thinks of themselves rather than putting their teammates and the mission above themselves.
He got the desk jockey part right
he captured that really powerful moment where you are so indescribably upset/mad/broken that you can't even get the words out.
The insane part about it all is that the grandkids of Desert Storm vets are fighting over there right now.
your math is way off cowboy, most of the dudes in desert storm would of been younger, so more like the kids of desert storm. There was one footsoldier dude who fought in both conflicts. pretty sure he died in iraq
Nah I’d say their kids were the Iraq and Afghanistan vets. Their grandkids will fight in our next war.
My buddy who was in army described just how terrible officers are, and how much of a bunch of douchebags they can be. This scene pretty much shows the closest possible reality what those on the ground and even behind the lines go through.
You weren't in so you have no clue man
if only this channel didn’t censor profanity.
Edit: after rewatching at 1:01 they forgot to censor fuck LMAO
Could say they gave a f**k
BLM?
@@planetkc lmao what?
😂😂🤣🤣😫😫😫😫
woah the level of acting ... thats ... man that takes skill
That dude deserved more recognition for that role.
His disappointment climaxed here but started when Jake was named Shooter over him.
This has similar vibes from when we came back from a convoy. I was part of the QRF at the FOB and got back after a 16 hour convoy cause some supply convoy got ambushed. Right when we get back our BC is chewing our ass out for being dirty and had some hairs on our face. He was in brand new cammies clean shave and ate well
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When the Allstate guy gives the Farmer's guy another unbelievable story regarding claims.
Know what’ll also blow your minds? Being in Allstate’s hands. Are you in good hands?
I never understood this scene. If they had permission from the Colonel, they could've just taken the shot without even saying a word to the other Marine who just randomly walked in.
One of the greatest feelings in this world is a sense of purpose. To be bereaved of that purpose....completely sucks.
Alot of people see Jarhead as a realistic war film, if not one of the most realistic. A war film that takes a different direction, that instead of showing the brutality it shows the searing monotony of war and military life, a look I don't reckon very many have seen before. That for me is what made this film stand out. However after serving in the military myself I see this movie as less realistic and more like war poetry. While alot of those who serve fit the more classic conservative motif, Anthony Swofford is a very liberal metropolitan individual. He's a creative type, a writer by trade and an intellectual. So it's interesting to see the memoirs of war written by someone of this pursasion. In that I think like I said we get more war poetry. The film is very avant garde in that way. Like slam poetry written for the military. The screenplay reads like that as well. So instead of realism it's more a bit romantic and fantastical. Very dramatic at times even more so than maybe it really would have been in real life. That however is it's charm as the film delivers it's point across quite well.
I think it helps the world understand what fighting for the world superpower in military spending and air force technology looks like, a boring job whose employees are the best in the business in following the boss's orders and reading the instruction manual. Almost every other country in the world cannot rely on so much overwhelming technologically superior firepower, it's like comparing alien technology to traditional warfare, it highlights how going to war against America is not just futile, but awaiting death from a God on high whose day job is to make you disappear from the POV of a satellite picture.
Whats even sadder is that Troy was the groups rock.
This here. He was always the calm one, the voice of reason so when he broke down in this scene i just felt so bad
Jarhead has always been about the Psychological side of warfare not violence and action.
the most baffling issue is how did the major ever get cleared for combat ops if his knees are so bad from college football that he has a grunt carrying a picnic chair for him to sit on all the time
I wonder if that was some kind of subtle story bit
This guy is portrayed as an asshole, and here he’s once again brought in to be one, so I’m thinking they’re implying he got in underhandedly perhaps
(If you really want to go deep, I wonder if the race card was used)
I was just waiting for dude to say " ALLSTATE YOUR IN GOOD HANDS"
With the Allstate ad before the video nice lol
What’s ironic is they probably wasted more money bombing one dude who was the primary target . Then for two men to take one shot .
Military industry is too important dawg, they prefer to spend more on a single bomb that cost 750 000$ US to make their friends richer but I agree with you
Alot of people don't like this movie, but it's honestly one of my favorites, because it accurately portrays the severe brainwashing each marine goes through. We are trained to be the perfect killing machine, where it's all we ever want and desire.
Unfortunately, that doesn't really translate well in the civilian world, and it still fucks with me each and every day that I am essentially useless until the next war is declared.
Ok boot
It's not brainwashing as it is portraited and this is why people don't like the movie, i have met some old marines and they are just normal person like us when retired
Imagine being a marine and thinking you’re a “perfect killing machine” 😂😂😂
Lmao any low level ww1 or ww2 grunt would literally eat you alive, people are so soft these days
@@lucignolo8333 what a weird flex dude, coming from someone who will ever amount to being a marine, nor has himself enlisted during ww1 or ww2
So you're pretty much lower than all of those standards you just set
@@iamwhoimnotimnotwhoiam4431 wow you’re american and you still don’t understand what the word “flex” means.
I wasn’t flexing, i was laughing at you for considering yourself a perfect killing machine when actually you’re just an illiterate sad man with a rifle.
Marines are actually bad shots and it’s pretty widespread knowledge, most of people who shoot for hobby are a better shot than most soldiers or marines
The best and most underrated American war film of all time
Top tier acting.
1:09 accurate representation of every person on Call of Duty when someone steals a kill.
Pov: you get a kill assist in cod
There's always that one kid in the squad that does this when you steal their kill...
This movie is so underrated
I’m guessing everyone mad at the scene never watched the movie. It’s not him mad he didn’t get to kill anyone. He wasn’t even gonna be the guy killing him he was the spotter. His whole squad was put through hell for months with no mission. Then they finally get a mission and right before they complete it, it gets stolen. Not about killing someone. About having your whole purpose stripped from you
I can’t be the only one laughing when he called them weird Lmaoooooo
I was too lmao
It would have taken everything I got not to outright pistol whip him. "THE BALLS on that asshole XO!" would be my line.
Dude's trying to compete with Sly in Rambo 1 in the "wtf is he saying" cry acting category
makes u think a little when the director can get u rooting for good guys to get to do some killin...
dam that must be literally hell going through entire war without a single kill
*damn
When you are 0-10 in a FPS and someones comes and drops an airstrike on the only guy you see in the last 2 minutes 😂
My 15 years in the British Army summed up in 3 minutes.