Sephiroth: “You think by killing yourself you can defeat me?” Cloud: “Yes. Except I’ll be the only thing alive after I kill myself to kill you.” Sephiroth: “NANI??” This build is as comical as it is deadly! Mortally effective, I say
Plenty of little things to go a long way for you guys! Against the harbingers bahamut at the end tifa can instakill it if she star showers then uses limit break!
@@BltzZ you know 4-8productions found this trick out ages go, you should give props in the proper places. It's in his "Bahamut in 25 Seconds using the stupidest strat I've ever come up with" video
@@twelveandthreequartersduck6769 what if he found that out for himself and didn't know about that trick from whoever? Why would he give props to them? BltzZ has been playing this game since it came out and it's no wonder he found out a lot of things about it even without other people's guides. Stop telling him to give props to other people if you have no evidence dumbass
@@twelveandthreequartersduck6769 yes I saw this trick the first time on his clip(4-8) but nobody owns an idea. I commented it on his channel. 4-8 is an FF7 genious as Everbody knows. Causes where connected and share our ideas we find out more and more. As we all like this game(at least 1 thing we have in common) it's possible that more than 1 person found out this combo. Stay cool, maSalame, Shalom and probs 2 Bltzz and 4-8.👑👑😘
If only we could do this at the edge of creation. Sephiroth: Join me Cloud. Cloud: I'd rather die! BOOM! Sephiroth: So you have chosen death... *Omnislash* Sephiroth: Nani!? *Credits*
There are still so many new things to learn about this game. That is awesome that self destruct actually has a very powerful use with this build. I will likely try this on cloud because I dont like melee barret and I prefer to go all in on physical damage with tifa
@@thescarletwitch9122 that fight was actually the easiest for me because of the Barret Infinite Health build. I customized it by adding maxed out Elemental + Lightning on both Tifa and Barret's armor, which made everything easier. Just focus on the appendage and when your health is low, either let yourself get hit by lightning or just whale on the minions to build up Barret's ATB.
So genius! I never thought of that. Makes sense though as self destruct would normally kill you. So death prevent, HP Absorb, and Low max HP makes this possible.
Had to try this build for myself after watching your video. High risk, high reward best describes it (especially with Tifa/Aerith), great strategies as always bro!
Thanks adam! Happy to hear whenever you guys try out the builds and find success with them! This can help cheese a lot of boss fights especially once they are past the 2nd phase
BltzZ Haha no worries, thanks for really spoiling us with FFVIIR content! 😬👍🏻 And yes tested it on Airbuster, that oversized droid was in his last phase in a few minutes 😂
It's possible this can help take them out quickly just beware of the health for those situations and save the limit breaks towards the end to finish them off
I'm searching for anything at this point but I always want to keep the consistency of my voice style to pair as well..going to brain storm ideas tonight
Yooooo! I didn't know the transference module was so damn good at building limit break!? I used it on my 1st play and it didn't work out to well. This video gives more motivation to test it out on hard
Love your work bro! Your video editing and content is top notch that I’m surprised that you don’t have way more subs than what you currently have now. It’s awesome to see that you’re keeping Ff7 remake alive even it’s been out for a couple of months. Keep it up man!
Thank you so much Helal that really means alot! But in due time im sure we will get there its just the journey ahead of us right now and having fun along the way! I love FF7 OG so much i refuse to stop making videos for remake anytime soon as well. Looking forward to our FF7 OG streams coming up next week!
Thank you Zach it feels unreal its all happening finally! Just thankful the grind is paying off slowly and I dont have any plans to stop now! Thanks always for the support bro
I've experimented with this trick in the Top secrets battle (as I'm trying to beat my own record). I've managed to fit two limit breaks (on top of the Gotterdammerung limit break) on Bahamut and Pride and Joy bosses. But it's pointless to fit a second one in as they're about to die anyway. With Fat Chocobo I've also fitted one in...but for me it doesn't speed up the fight that much. As for Shiva and Leviathan the fights seems even relatively shorter and so fitting a limit break in is also a little pointless. I've also experiemented with having Tifa equip with the Gotterdammerung whilst Cloud does the instant limit break trick...maybe I'm just not used to the changed style but that also did not do much to improve my record. So at the moment the "best" tactic for me is to do one instant limit break on Bahamut and Pride and Joy. it's helped me get my personal record down from 3:04 to the current 2:24. Heres a video for anyone who wants to see this performed. th-cam.com/video/1NGBHnHuB-k/w-d-xo.html
@@BltzZ I'm using Cloud for all limit breaks. However, I did try with Tifa and did what you suggested; starshower and then limit break. Actually that reminded me that when I use Cloud and if I can I'd use punisher mode then hold square and them limit break. I think that increases damage...I haven't done it that much to notice a difference yet. Will keep experimenting.
It’s cool but I’m sure most real ff7 remake players would know that already also u only ever need 1 limit break it seems unless the boss is not damage locked then ya but if u want staggers and a fast limit break blizzaga raises stagger very high so I use raw damage to a point the lb for a finish and if the boss isn’t bound by damage refocus and blizzaga all the way but it’s still cool it makes better sense to use refocus the do the boom so u always atb chi trap is good with mobs to raise lb bar to chi trap spam stagger farm there are tons of ways to get fast lb also don’t forget to use poison or bad breath on bosses Posion rules in some boss battles but anyways great video as for warding materia one of best in game for status effects works wonders with keepin u safe and if u want a fast lb magnify blizzaga on mobs it will stagger them and u get lb so many ways to set up for the game I personally think that raw damage is better than spells only use pray or chakra u can get unlimited pray materia and 4 chakra materia so don’t really need heal materia I put refocus on all 3 players that’s 9 atb bars if u can get it done fast enough even reg blizzard works on mobs have fun keep makin vids
Thanks dude! Yeah blizzaga is amazing for staggering enemies very quickly! Refocus on everyone is a godsend because 3 atb bars makes for insane playthroughs
When you've only been playing this game for a week and want to know a few build suggestions, then see this comment...? May aswell be written in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs! 🤣
Welcome to the channel Chris happy to have you on board! We just started streaming Legend of Dragoon last night and it was a success. It's my very first time ever playing it I cannot believe I missed out on such a great game. Drop by the next stream when you see us live and say hello :)
@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 yeah many years ago people used to think that video games are for children and kids now we know it is a passion and a marvelous one.
Life is all about creating experiences and memories. The passions I have with video games I will continue to push onto the next generation while also educating many others along the way. I can't wait to have a gaming family. But I can already see my kids not liking it as much because I will be schooling them all day!
A year later and I'm just now seeing this. Amazing. I've long since beaten the game on hard mode and done all the extra stuff. I'll see If I can do this in the DLC.
@@BltzZ For me, this strat is building limit quickly, but not in 1 self destruct - it's taking about 3, with Cloud. And that's using the same build you are using in the video, it's still not 100% protecting me from the self-destruct insta death (all the materia on cloud is maxed out too); Though, I tested it via bahamut, so maybe bahamuts Aura damage messes with the strat in some way? or they patched it to fix this strat?
Hey BltzZ, hopefully you're seeing this. Just needed some clarification. This setup allows you to survive Self Destruct only ONCE per fight, right? It does not allow for spamming Self Destruct, as that would absolutely be broken (I'm assuming). If that were the case, then how is it possible that the previous Barrett build mentions that: he needs to Self Destruct TWICE to get a Limit Break (due to his HP)? How does the survivability mechanic break down, in this case? I understand that it rests on both the weapon having Reprieve and the Warding+Subversion Materia combo.
You can survive only once per fight as cloud tifa and aerith, barrets health pool is really large and he can survive multiple because of his defense. He also needs 2 to get it. Don't worry if he dies you can just revive him or use carbuncle materia for a instant revive. I have another video on that method too. Titled carbuncle summon materia. If you die in this game you keep your limit break. Also another factor depends on how many enemies you hit with self destruct. If you hit more than 3 you can survive multiple SDs cuz of the health regen
Both hilarious and lethal lol By the way, is it possible to use two melee limit breaks (like cloud and tifa) at the same time against the same enemy? Or not all of the attacks will land cause of the hitbox?
Yes you can use them both at the same time on the same enemy very easily! They track very well with each other. I do it a few times in this video as well. Against regular enemies and fat chocobo!
I realize this is an old video but I have a couple questions, for the majority of these videos are you on pc? If so, did you end up playing in dx11 or dx12? Thank you so much!
if you do this strat with the Revival Earrings on Cloud, you could do it twice in a row (blow up > limit usage > blow up again > limit usage again), although it will take a second or two for Cloud to revive himself with the earrings. Probably loses the Berserk status as well the second time since he dies, but that should be an easy fix with Hold Square in Punisher Mode.
It prevents you from dying from the debuff that self destruct gives. Self destruct gives "instant death" as a debuff and you will die without subversion and warding. Reprieve also works because of subversion and warding too
@@BltzZ Yes.... but when you use SD Reprieve actives even when equipped with Warding +Subv. I'm really confuse here... do you need Warding+Subv. to not die in Self-destruct? of yes then why are you dying
You need warding and subversion to eliminate the debuff called instant death which self destruct gives. Without those two materias you will die because reprieve will not proc. Reprieve does not proc if a "instant death" debuff is applied. I'm sorry I just now am seeing this comment idk why i was never notified
Is the Fury Ring necessary to pull this off? And do you HAVE to use a weapon with Reprieve to make this work? Asking because I LOVE using the Buster Sword 🤔
I tried it last night but this reprieve doesnt activate...i always die...even with hp absorb...just doesnt work...reprieve is like concentration?..random?..
@@BltzZ thank you i figured it out...i have 1.40 on top secrets and i wanted to make some strategy with it to make even better time...but it needs too many slots and you sacrefice a lot for this build...plus on top secrets bosses doesnt fill the limit full...i had high hopes to even break finaly the world record with this...but nope....😅 But i will do it...i promissed toyself i will....but hey...this idea you had its still great...keep up the good work .
this not working for me I require to self destruct 2 times before my limit break is full. And the second time I self destruct Cloud stays dead?! WHY?! I dont get it my Cloud has the same stat as yours. I am trying this against the Hell House in hard. I am following the instructions to the letter.
Few things to check..you have a fury ring on correct? With reprieve on iron blade? Also no HP ups. Make sure you have on a fury ring and 2 maxed out magic ups. Also subversion(any level) paired to a maxed out warding materia?
Certain weapons have reprieve for characters. You need atleast 250sp to let the final skill tree appear in weapon upgrades. Subversion materia has a passive when paired with blue materia it can be enhanced. I believe it's warding materia you need to pair it with
I'll try this build. Seems exciting with those instant limit breaks. And it's satisfying to see that you don't die after Self-destruct. No kidding on Aerith's limit break, man. I equipped the Gotterdammerung on Aerith and used Planet's Protection on my hard mode Sephiroth boss fight. It did help on making the 3rd phase battle quite easier but it's still tough, lol.
Enemy skill self destruct can be learned from the machine enemies in sector 5 slums who blow up after you kill them. Or you can get it from the fireball enemies in the colliseum or legends bosses VR challenge. You can also get self destruct from another enemy but I do not know their name
All of my materia is maxed up, my weapons have reprieve, I've used this build on Cloud and Tifa with Fury Rang, Transference Module, and Göttersämmerung but none of it works. No matter if the enemy is a horde or a boss like the fat chocobo, and whatever or not its staggered or pressured, Cloud and Tifa never got a full limit break for me. What the hell am I missing?
Your magic attack stat needs to be the highest possible meaning 2 magic ups. Fury ring will guarantee a limit break. Also magic focused weapons with reprieve are recommended. So iron blade for cloud and Mythril Claws for tifa. I just used this method to defeat the harbinger bosses and am going to use on others. Feel free to check that video out I recently released that.
@@BltzZ I have two Magic Ups on Cloud, along with his Iron Blade which has 104 magic and reprieve but it still doesn't give me a limit. Even with or without the fury rings, and even if there were more than 4 enemies, the self destruct doesn't kill everyone in the radius and often fails to reach 80% of Cloud's limit gauge. Also even if i do get it to work, wouldn't it only be useful once since reprieve has a 1 per battle effect?
Thanks for in depth explanation. Im attempting to use this build to beat the last chapter in hard mode. My plan is to use this build and have revive on supporting characters.
I used this very well in the harbingers boss guide I uploaded last week. Feel free to check it out! You can use it for Sephiroth too but I haven't finished editing the video because I've been busy streaming hehee. But you can change your build up before fighting Sephiroth if you want to by holding square in the beginning cutscene when him and cloud faceoff.
Thanks alot fam! hoping this helps me get past Bahumut on the top secret challenge.... If so, then I'll be able to finally get my platinum trophy soon!
This is a tough one but if you can get both limit breaks to pop on two characters you will absolutely shred bahamut with this! Star shower with tifa before you dolphin flurry
Hi ! One major tip for the bahamut fight is to cast the manawall spell before the bahamut casts his megaflare on you (will halve the damage so some chars should survive to this). The rest of the fight is pretty "standard". GL, man !
@@blondinsentenza6862 I've been using manawall already, my main problem is I keep running out of magic before I can kill him and then he just takes everybody out lol
Not a problem so starshower has a special effect where it buffs your next ability you use after it lands. So doing it before limit break buffs its damage by a crazy amount
Woowww!!! Never knew about that bro!! That's great! Thank you bro. Your guides make this FF7 Remake more and more fun & interresting for us all the players. Hahaha... :D
To make this work with Cloud i need to max out the Iron Blade right? I have 400 (more or less) magic power but i miss a little of the indicator of limit break when exploding
I just tried this, but failed miserably. Only materia I'm missing is the second Magic Up. Because of that I wasn't surprised to only get halfway to limit break, but the real problem is if I tried it a second time it just straight up killed my ass. Is the double Magic Up necessary, or is there something else I'm missing? 🤔
Double magic up us necessary and you need to have Reprieve unlocked on your weapon core. Those are the most important aspects. Also you need to have warding maxed out and paired with a subversion materia
i dont understand why this dont work with me? :( i have the same configuration of the video (only the hp absorbtion is not max but at 30%). when i use kamikaze Cloud dont have the limit bar full and when i try a second kamikaze he dies. I dont understand how i can use this configuration. Somebody can Help me? Thanks
Can this method be used in the Pride and Joy challenge effectively? If so, what would be the optimal way to use this for those who have been stuck on it?
This actually is tough to use in the pride and joy challenge. I have a separate guide on the top secrets fight if you haven't checked that out already. Just take your time following it and you got this
@@BltzZ I've watched that vid countless time but I cant seem to get past leviathan. I've beat him like 3 times but Bahamut wrecks me. I do thing the Bahamut fight is easier since I always get super close to beating him when I do get past Levi. I guess I just don't have what it takes to get that trophy lol. Its the only one I need for my plat
So I tried this now, its charging less. Had over 5k hp (no hp plus but stil over 5k), so expected to need to do 2 self destruct. Had to do 3, each self destruct with about 430 magic attack and 5090HP changes by about 30%. Tried with aerith with lower hp and almost 500 magic attack and also wouldnt charge all in one g, with her about 75%. Ahh just watched clip again, my mistake forgetting the beserk and low defense.
@@BltzZ It works a treat on mythril blade but cloud is weak physically on it. I got tired, so tired that when I swapped in iron blade for cloud, I forgot to put subversion and warding in linked slots and wondered why in boss fight was no reprieve lol. I fixed it then went bed, about to play some more, so will reply later. I am also curious if this triggers the trade off skill which recharges MP when taking big damage. If it does its even better.
@@BltzZ I can only get it working in one go with mythril blade, seems iron blade with 420 magic and 5020HP is too low magic and too much HP, thats with 2 maxed out magic plus, mythril blade with 440 magic (and the 20% boost with full MP) is enough. I am guessing about 500 magic attack is needed, as iron blade isnt even coming close, but somehow its working in your video with that lower magic. With mythril blade the superstar belt is needed if you dont want to revive after (accessory that gives reprieve). I noticed you used the fury ring instead of punisher beserk, I will test with that as maybe the beserk from fury ring is more powerful. Even with a weak str weapon and manual revive it can save a ton of time, I used it on the queen in the fan duct chapter 6, you have the timer to kill the enemies, using this trick, even with arise cast on cloud, I had about 30 secs left, never had anywhere near that much time left before.
can you help me with this? I did exactly what you show me, give Cloud the exact same weapon, same set up of Materias, but when I used Self-Destruct, it heal me only 2500+ HP, not 4000+ like you. I already had the Platinum Trophy, just want to try new set up to have fun.
@@BltzZ Everytime I hear a great song from FF7 Remake play in my car, I feel nothing but joy. Such an amazing experience playing through that game. It makes me wanna play it again. I haven't felt that way about a game in years.
It's possible but not the best strategy. A lot can go wrong against the super bosses. I have a new video coming with my new method to beating them easily. I also have an older video on the channel to help you if you want to check it out
@@BltzZ I need all the help I can get at present I am trying to max out my hp mp and magic up materia which is a pain , need this trophy for the platinum
You can use it a second time and survive if you build enough HP from the amount of enemies you hit. But even if you die you still gain the LB do no worries
@@austinlam2498 if you hit 2 enemies you should always get the limit break to full. For 1 enemy to fill up the enemy has to have low magic defense but it's very possible still. Also no, without reprieve the health regained may not be enough to keep you alive without reprieve. Make sure you have the fury ring on also to maximize the damage dealt and limit break gained!
@@BltzZ oh ok, I think the only i'm get confuse is how if you SD more than 1 enemy you would gain more limit break without the fury ring? Sorry i think im just having trouble understanding the mechanics.
No worries, either way you need the fury ring in order to deal enough limit break damage to yourself. Then more enemies you hit the more damage ultimately is being spread out and stacking with your limit break meter
is it normal that the limit gauge wont be fully filled after self-destruct? I am using iron blade 2 magic material circlet (+5% magic damage, +10% mana) each time i self-destruct on single target, my limit break gauge isn't full, I've tried with mythril blade too but it is the same, and I didn't use any HP up on the character that using this build
Single target yup it won't always fill up but try the fury ring out instead of the circlet. It'll boost the damage even more and can either put your LB at 95 percent or 100!
I even tried to remove all +HP core on iron blade, turn out it is the same as mythril blade( 4820) since mythril blade doesn't have any +HP core in it, still won't instant fill on single target
The single target aspect of it can be wonky I guess focus on using it multiple times 2 should do it but you need a revive on standby. How much exactly are you getting?
The thing is i think barret doesn't need to use limit break because i think barret is best used for staggering (focused shot), status buffes, and tanking
I tried this with Tifa when she had just about 5000 health and it only filled about half the limit bar, but she had almost no health left. Is there something I'm doing wrong with my setup? I'm using the Purple Pains.
@@BltzZ That's right. I know the Mythril Claws are the only other weapon with Reprieve that Tifa has, and they have a slightly higher magic stat. Would that alone make much of a difference though?
@@BltzZ Just tried the Mythril Claws and I have the exact same setup and stats as you showed towards the end of the video. The limit bar filled about 80% this time, but not full.
That's strange! Do you have the SP maxed out on the weapon? Edit: NVM you said you have the same exact stats lol. Is this against a solo enemy or multiple?
@@BltzZ thanks for the reply! Now sometimes my Tifa will stay alive. I have sepphraic earrings, and the Warding/ subversion combo on her with the hp absorb/ enemy skill ... but her limit break doesn't go up by much even when she hits the enemies. I'm using her on the whisper harbingers. Does her limit break have to do with how much damage she delt to the enemy? I thought it was proportional to how much damage she receives.
@@MrChrisArtStudio it depends on how much damage is dealt overall and received. Which is why fury ring is the best thing for it because you deal max damage output and receive 30 percent more damage. But against harbingers I don't recommend it. It's not exactly easy to pull off. You're better off triple slashing with cloud a lot
@@BltzZ Thanks. Maybe I will try it again when my material is more leveled up. I finally just beat the game on normal mode for the first time just now! Thanks for all your guides. They have been fun!
Does this still work? I tried this with Tifa, but died when I self destruct. I used Mythril Claw with Reprieve, and had Subversion + Warding. My Warding is still lvl 2, so that might also be the reason. But, just want confirm, does this strat still work now?
@@charliejonathansiauw8700 no need for the Gotterdammerung. Hmmm and you are using the iron blade for cloud as well? List to me what exactly you have so I can be sure. I wanna help you get this going!
Actually for Aerith the build could be nice with Refocus, giving her 3 ATB gauge early for the rest of the fight and she could devastate the ennemies with Arcane Ward and casting 2 powerfull spells in the row, or other of her support abilities to beneficiate the party.
Check out my infinite atb build video where I used that setup without the limit break self destruct but showcase how devastating 3 ATB aerith can be against top secret shiva!
Ok well then you are missing a manuscript in a VR training in chapter 17 or the colliseum in chapter 14. Check both of those chapters I think you'll find the last one there. Especially if you've already completed Hard Mode
@@BltzZ I've tried my build with all material settings as yours but I used Mythril Saber and 1 Magic up and I got a magic attack = 420 when I used Self-Destruct (with berserk) it only filled my limit 80-90%. Do you have any suggestions for this?
You cover three essential parts of the build here: HP Absorption + Enemy Skill, Warding + Subversion, Reprieve. But it is not clear to me what each of these parts do. It would be nice if you covered it in details. E.g. I would expect it is enough to have Reprieve only. Ok, probably that would leave us on 1hp after the self-destruct. Probably that's what we need HP Absorption for. But it is still not clear why do we need Warding + Subversion and what's gonna happen if we don't have it.
I covered this in previous videos prior to this one. But basically we need Subversion and warding to avoid the instant death buff. Self destruct inflicts instant death debuff. Reprieve will not activate if instant death debuff is applied. So now that instant death debuff is no longer applicable thanks to warding and subversion, we drop to 1 HP but self destruct damage and HP absorb heal us back up from 1 to approximately 3000 or more. Hope this explains it well. Feel free to message me if you have any other concerns
@@BltzZ Exactly, Reprieve is redundant. It does not change anything. Just checked it. It is simply not triggered. Only Warding+Subversion can save you from dying, but you still loose HP. That's why you also need Absorption. So maybe you should clarify Reprieve is not relevant here.
@@nicolatesla378 so I just did a retest for you. Cloud with Mythril Blade which does NOT have reprieve but has a very high MGK ATK Stat. ES+HP Absorb & Subversion + Warding & 2 MGK UP. Cloud died from the first self destruct...my second test was cloud with twin stinger which has Reprieve but lower MGK ATK Stat. ES+HP Absorb & Subversion + Warding & 2 MGK UP. Cloud SURVIVED the first self destruct and reprieve says it ACTIVATED. Then I tried twin stinger self destruct again without Subversion + Warding and cloud DIED from the first Self destruct. Who did you test this on and what weapons do you have on to where you are surviving without reprieve? Even if you resist death with Subversion and warding & no Reprieve you still will die if the damage exceeds 9999 which it does. You'd need to hit enough enemies to deal enough to reheal and survive. Which is not a practical scenario. This method using Reprieve is practical for ALL scenarios against 1 enemy or 5. I even used this in a boss guide against the harbingers I released a few weeks ago. This method also assures you gain atleast 95% or full limit break off one Self destruct. Whereas with Barret if you have high HP and do this you will only gain 60 percent limit break bar for 1 enemy. Because his health naturally is too high.
@@BltzZ Hm, seems like things are more interesting than I thoughts. Test 1: Twin Stinger, no relevant materia => death. Test 2: Twin Stinger, Warding+Subversion => survive with Low HP. Test 3: Twin Stinger, Warding+Subversion, ES+HP Abs => survive with Medium HP. I never saw Reprieve activated 🤷♂️
I noticed you can only survive the first self destruct. If you do it more than once in a fight you’ll instant die but still get the limit break. Make sure to have another character use arise
Hey I’ve tried your build on cloud, but he always died. I followed everything but he still died without his limit breaks full. Thoughts? Is Square Enix already patched this?
@@BltzZ yes I followed everything: reprieve, iron blade, materia built, etc. But most of the time , Cloud didn’t reach limit break after self-destruct.
@@zhaf maxing that materia out and having matchup knowledge for hard mode goes a long way. The hell house was easier the second time around on hard mode because I learned the fight matchup haha. It wrecked me so badly on normal
@@BltzZ i fought Hell House (i do agree it's so much harder on normal lol) on a few occasions and the number of tonberries thrown out during Hard mode depends on which grade of hand massage you chose with Mdm M. If you chose the poor man's course, you'll only get 1 tonberry thrown out, and the difficulty to finishing it off is easier too. And if you picked the ultimate course at 3000g, hell house gets a a lot harder; throwing out 3 tonberries each time the door is open during the fight. try it!
@@BltzZ I think once you "get" FF7R combat you don't really have any problem with combat. On my normal playthrough it was Hell house and Eligor that made me really pay attention to what was going on. After them I didn't really had any difficulty with any combat in the game baring from some of the combat challenges. Once all the materia are maxed and you have fury rings/Platinum Earrings you can just dps down all the enemies including bosses in hard mode by exploiting their weaknesses. I've seen the speedrun strats. They're not far from what I am doing. They're just doing things faster.
@@BltzZ thanks for replying. I realized I didn't have ward maxed out. I went back and did so. And I did pretty much the same set up you got with cloud (using twin stinger) my hp is under 5k. I went into fury through punisher mode then self destruct. But @5:32 when you do it he losses about 1k hp. I lose almost 4k and still short of a limit break.
Btw we just finished part 1 stream of FF7 OG last night and starting back up tomorrow night Thursday 7pm eastern new York time. Join us! The community has been loving the gameplay. I hit two enemies with that self destruct so it gave back some more health for me
HAHAHA i contemplated on putting (without gotterdammerung) in the title but i figured against it XD hmm i may add it actually because now that i think about it many other may see this title and shy away thinking it is about the accessory! omg lol
I'll take this into account. Hard Mode is kickng my ass so much that I'm starting not to have fun. I wish there was a difficulty in between Hard Mode and Normal because Chapter Select on Normal is too easy since you're starting on your Ch. 18 level, but hard Mode is just too hard for me.
HpAbsorb-enemyskill algid aura on cloud gives you a huge ton of HP by while attacking the enemy even if your being sat on or dazed. Great for hard mode because it's just working away for you while your trying to fight or evade
Also, learn to get good with using counterstance on Cloud with HardEdge. Tifa is the best DPS in the game, but sometimes she can be tough to use against certain enemies. Counterstance can counter 99% of all enemy attacks (even multiple enemies simultaneously) and you can breeze through enemies and save magic for boss fights if you need it. Just practice the timing, it can be tricky sometimes!
So basically this gets us 2 Gotterdammerungs to use in the game 😎
Lol don't joke like this I'm still struggling to get pass shiva xD
@@AMaidenlessRunt easy Bro, elemental+Ice in armor = infinit heal by ice.
Can this be used on weiss?
uhhhh.... i don't have half of these abilities. is this hard mode only stuff?
@@davidj2826 yes hard mode only. I recommend you leveling up in hard mode and mastering the weapons proficiency too!
Sephiroth: “You think by killing yourself you can defeat me?”
Cloud: “Yes. Except I’ll be the only thing alive after I kill myself to kill you.”
Sephiroth: “NANI??”
This build is as comical as it is deadly! Mortally effective, I say
Hahaha that dialogue better be in the next TFS for ff7 haha. I love this build it's hilarious how OP it is to kill yourself over and over again
@@BltzZ For reals. Instant limit breaks on demand? Move over gotterdammerung, there’s a new GOAT in town
Planet protection and sephy is nothing :p
@@hectormayfield1413 it's so flexible too Which is the best part!
@@MrPradezJJ planet protection ruins Sephiroths day!
Never thought about the Starshard / Limit Break interaction before, this video is full of all sorts of little tips
Plenty of little things to go a long way for you guys! Against the harbingers bahamut at the end tifa can instakill it if she star showers then uses limit break!
@@BltzZ you know 4-8productions found this trick out ages go, you should give props in the proper places. It's in his "Bahamut in 25 Seconds using the stupidest strat I've ever come up with" video
@@twelveandthreequartersduck6769 what if he found that out for himself and didn't know about that trick from whoever? Why would he give props to them? BltzZ has been playing this game since it came out and it's no wonder he found out a lot of things about it even without other people's guides. Stop telling him to give props to other people if you have no evidence dumbass
When you're Using the GD on Cloud, hold square in punishermode to activate beserk before using his limit ✌️✌️✌️
@@twelveandthreequartersduck6769 yes I saw this trick the first time on his clip(4-8) but nobody owns an idea. I commented it on his channel. 4-8 is an FF7 genious as Everbody knows. Causes where connected and share our ideas we find out more and more. As we all like this game(at least 1 thing we have in common) it's possible that more than 1 person found out this combo. Stay cool, maSalame, Shalom and probs 2 Bltzz and 4-8.👑👑😘
I've learnt the self destruct trick from you. Now you've take it to another level! Love the game and love your videos!
Take it even further beyond to new heights!
If only we could do this at the edge of creation.
Sephiroth: Join me Cloud.
Cloud: I'd rather die!
BOOM!
Sephiroth: So you have chosen death...
*Omnislash*
Sephiroth: Nani!?
*Credits*
Lol a perfect comment doesn't exist...except this one
There are still so many new things to learn about this game. That is awesome that self destruct actually has a very powerful use with this build. I will likely try this on cloud because I dont like melee barret and I prefer to go all in on physical damage with tifa
Clouds limit break is great too because it can stagger and pressure enemies super quickly
0:19 My favorite Limit Break for Aerith❤️
Absolutely OP I cannot wait for it to be in part 2 =]
@@BltzZ wont happening
that is savage man.haha
Definitely gonna do this. Hard mode was kicking my ass.
BRO, SAME UNKNOWN ENTITY FIGHT DESTROYED, ME.
@@thescarletwitch9122 that fight was actually the easiest for me because of the Barret Infinite Health build. I customized it by adding maxed out Elemental + Lightning on both Tifa and Barret's armor, which made everything easier. Just focus on the appendage and when your health is low, either let yourself get hit by lightning or just whale on the minions to build up Barret's ATB.
@@secretscarlet8249 nice 👍.
So genius! I never thought of that. Makes sense though as self destruct would normally kill you. So death prevent, HP Absorb, and Low max HP makes this possible.
You can have so much fun with this it's absolutely amazing! Checkout the carbuncle version I made with this too haha
Thank you for sharing, This means Enemy skill with self destruct + ward = another Gotterdamerung
Exactly! It's super cool to have this imo i love these kinds of setups and limit breaks are OP especially when you get two at once
Had to try this build for myself after watching your video.
High risk, high reward best describes it (especially with Tifa/Aerith), great strategies as always bro!
Thanks adam! Happy to hear whenever you guys try out the builds and find success with them! This can help cheese a lot of boss fights especially once they are past the 2nd phase
BltzZ Haha no worries, thanks for really spoiling us with FFVIIR content! 😬👍🏻
And yes tested it on Airbuster, that oversized droid was in his last phase in a few minutes 😂
Thats freaking awesome! Haha just melt him away after that right?
BltzZ Hahaha totally! All that armour might as well have not been there 😂
I'm totally playing the entire game over with the strategy! I just got to hurry up and level up this Warding material
Warding materia is a grind that's most definitely worth it! You are going to enjoy blowing everything up in this build
Seeing this makes me think I can actually finish pride and joy because I need the limit breaks cuz I get stuck at leviathan or bahamut
It's possible this can help take them out quickly just beware of the health for those situations and save the limit breaks towards the end to finish them off
I tried using this method this morning only got half of tifa limit break 👍
Love the ff7 content! Always good quality videos. You have the perfect balance of bgm and your voice. Makes the viewing experience the best!
Thanks always dude haha i'm actually trying to find music for ghost of tsushima so I can make videos of that when its here
@@BltzZ Good old samurai films could help
I'm searching for anything at this point but I always want to keep the consistency of my voice style to pair as well..going to brain storm ideas tonight
@@BltzZ Oh ok mang. I will do a little search for you too
@@josevega8139 ayyye much appreciated dude
Yooooo! I didn't know the transference module was so damn good at building limit break!? I used it on my 1st play and it didn't work out to well. This video gives more motivation to test it out on hard
It's absolutely broken when you use it on cloud with berserk haha. Other characters be sure to cast berserk on them before hand too!
Love your work bro! Your video editing and content is top notch that I’m surprised that you don’t have way more subs than what you currently have now.
It’s awesome to see that you’re keeping Ff7 remake alive even it’s been out for a couple of months.
Keep it up man!
Thank you so much Helal that really means alot! But in due time im sure we will get there its just the journey ahead of us right now and having fun along the way! I love FF7 OG so much i refuse to stop making videos for remake anytime soon as well. Looking forward to our FF7 OG streams coming up next week!
BltzZ I’ll be there to watch brother. Got the notifications happening.
Thanks dude see you there
I'm happy to see you growing and making a name for yourself BltzZ! Keep it up and get that TH-cam💲
Thank you Zach it feels unreal its all happening finally! Just thankful the grind is paying off slowly and I dont have any plans to stop now! Thanks always for the support bro
I've experimented with this trick in the Top secrets battle (as I'm trying to beat my own record). I've managed to fit two limit breaks (on top of the Gotterdammerung limit break) on Bahamut and Pride and Joy bosses. But it's pointless to fit a second one in as they're about to die anyway. With Fat Chocobo I've also fitted one in...but for me it doesn't speed up the fight that much. As for Shiva and Leviathan the fights seems even relatively shorter and so fitting a limit break in is also a little pointless. I've also experiemented with having Tifa equip with the Gotterdammerung whilst Cloud does the instant limit break trick...maybe I'm just not used to the changed style but that also did not do much to improve my record. So at the moment the "best" tactic for me is to do one instant limit break on Bahamut and Pride and Joy. it's helped me get my personal record down from 3:04 to the current 2:24. Heres a video for anyone who wants to see this performed. th-cam.com/video/1NGBHnHuB-k/w-d-xo.html
Really impressive stuff actually! With tifa are you star showering before the limit break? It significantly boosts her damage for it
@@BltzZ I'm using Cloud for all limit breaks. However, I did try with Tifa and did what you suggested; starshower and then limit break. Actually that reminded me that when I use Cloud and if I can I'd use punisher mode then hold square and them limit break. I think that increases damage...I haven't done it that much to notice a difference yet. Will keep experimenting.
It’s cool but I’m sure most real ff7 remake players would know that already also u only ever need 1 limit break it seems unless the boss is not damage locked then ya but if u want staggers and a fast limit break blizzaga raises stagger very high so I use raw damage to a point the lb for a finish and if the boss isn’t bound by damage refocus and blizzaga all the way but it’s still cool it makes better sense to use refocus the do the boom so u always atb chi trap is good with mobs to raise lb bar to chi trap spam stagger farm there are tons of ways to get fast lb also don’t forget to use poison or bad breath on bosses Posion rules in some boss battles but anyways great video as for warding materia one of best in game for status effects works wonders with keepin u safe and if u want a fast lb magnify blizzaga on mobs it will stagger them and u get lb so many ways to set up for the game I personally think that raw damage is better than spells only use pray or chakra u can get unlimited pray materia and 4 chakra materia so don’t really need heal materia I put refocus on all 3 players that’s 9 atb bars if u can get it done fast enough even reg blizzard works on mobs have fun keep makin vids
Thanks dude! Yeah blizzaga is amazing for staggering enemies very quickly! Refocus on everyone is a godsend because 3 atb bars makes for insane playthroughs
When you've only been playing this game for a week and want to know a few build suggestions, then see this comment...? May aswell be written in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs! 🤣
Haha sorry man you'll pick up the lingo very soon. Be sure to checkout our build videos as all have valuable useful information you'll enjoy
Damn that 250 hours of playtime
The grind is the real grind :) trying to make the best videos I can
I tried to do Starshower -> Dolphin Flurry to finish Sephiroth in my first play through. But he died to the Starshower.
Tifa OP confirmed! Imagine if she joined "Soldier" jeeeeez. That's hilarious
@@BltzZ ayee. If she was mako treated, I think she would rival Sephiroth and Genesis in a top tier level.
Dude I'm so glad I came across your channel, so many amazing builds and strats! 1000% got yourself a new sub!
Welcome to the channel Chris happy to have you on board! We just started streaming Legend of Dragoon last night and it was a success. It's my very first time ever playing it I cannot believe I missed out on such a great game. Drop by the next stream when you see us live and say hello :)
@@BltzZ loved that game! I'm really hoping one day it gets a remake of its own.
The GOAT himself with another awesome guide! Keep it up man! ;)
Thanks my dude always appreciate you dropping some love on the videos!
Interesting like always though I'm currently busy working and parenting, when I'm free I'd love to try all these.
In due time my friend! Daddy duties always come first and when you get to get this out it will be worth it :)
Your a dad and playing video games, somethin nice about that.
@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 yeah many years ago people used to think that video games are for children and kids now we know it is a passion and a marvelous one.
One of the rewarding aspects of life. I cannot wait to be a father myself. I've had plenty of practice with my younger sisters for suren
Life is all about creating experiences and memories. The passions I have with video games I will continue to push onto the next generation while also educating many others along the way. I can't wait to have a gaming family. But I can already see my kids not liking it as much because I will be schooling them all day!
A year later and I'm just now seeing this. Amazing. I've long since beaten the game on hard mode and done all the extra stuff. I'll see If I can do this in the DLC.
In Intergrade this works just fine! But on yuffie dlc unfortunately she does not have enemy skill 😢
@@BltzZ For me, this strat is building limit quickly, but not in 1 self destruct - it's taking about 3, with Cloud. And that's using the same build you are using in the video, it's still not 100% protecting me from the self-destruct insta death (all the materia on cloud is maxed out too); Though, I tested it via bahamut, so maybe bahamuts Aura damage messes with the strat in some way? or they patched it to fix this strat?
Your guide is always genius, bro!! Really love them! :D
Always happy to hear you are loving the guide dude! I will see you on the live stream tomorrow night? Finishing up hard mode bosses
Okayy bro! Thanks for the invitation :D
See you there!
@@BltzZ sorry for my late presence bro, it's morning in my time zone, so many things to do. I was watching the last part of the video only :(
God damn, I wish Self Destruct was this useful in other FF games! lol
Haha they just wanted to make self destruct the goat in this game I swear!
Hey BltzZ, hopefully you're seeing this. Just needed some clarification. This setup allows you to survive Self Destruct only ONCE per fight, right? It does not allow for spamming Self Destruct, as that would absolutely be broken (I'm assuming).
If that were the case, then how is it possible that the previous Barrett build mentions that: he needs to Self Destruct TWICE to get a Limit Break (due to his HP)? How does the survivability mechanic break down, in this case? I understand that it rests on both the weapon having Reprieve and the Warding+Subversion Materia combo.
You can survive only once per fight as cloud tifa and aerith, barrets health pool is really large and he can survive multiple because of his defense. He also needs 2 to get it. Don't worry if he dies you can just revive him or use carbuncle materia for a instant revive. I have another video on that method too. Titled carbuncle summon materia. If you die in this game you keep your limit break. Also another factor depends on how many enemies you hit with self destruct. If you hit more than 3 you can survive multiple SDs cuz of the health regen
Think I’ll go back and get the enemy skills now.
Do it! It's game changing! Let me know what you think!
Damn this looks amazing, I need to try this
I implore you to try it out! It's a lot of fun and I wanna see how this functions on bosses as well
Both hilarious and lethal lol
By the way, is it possible to use two melee limit breaks (like cloud and tifa) at the same time against the same enemy? Or not all of the attacks will land cause of the hitbox?
Yes you can use them both at the same time on the same enemy very easily! They track very well with each other. I do it a few times in this video as well. Against regular enemies and fat chocobo!
Hi, comment from a yr ago. 2 limits plus infinity end on a staggered phase 3 leviathan is how i finally beat him
@@212mochaman way to go!
It was working on a self destruct for cloud but now when I do it it only gets my limit break to like 80% why is that?
I realize this is an old video but I have a couple questions, for the majority of these videos are you on pc? If so, did you end up playing in dx11 or dx12? Thank you so much!
Damage output set to maximum! Nice video man. So many builds to choose from.
So many builds to choose from indeed and this single handedly alone makes replaying this game all the more fun!
if you do this strat with the Revival Earrings on Cloud, you could do it twice in a row (blow up > limit usage > blow up again > limit usage again), although it will take a second or two for Cloud to revive himself with the earrings. Probably loses the Berserk status as well the second time since he dies, but that should be an easy fix with Hold Square in Punisher Mode.
That's a great strat for cloud!
Question why do you need Warding+Subversion if it doesn't prevent you from Self-Destruct?
It prevents you from dying from the debuff that self destruct gives. Self destruct gives "instant death" as a debuff and you will die without subversion and warding. Reprieve also works because of subversion and warding too
@@BltzZ Yes.... but when you use SD Reprieve actives even when equipped with Warding +Subv. I'm really confuse here... do you need Warding+Subv. to not die in Self-destruct? of yes then why are you dying
BltzZ I think what he is asking is why use self destruct if you intend to survive it?
@@BltzZ Yeah, same question here. I'd expect it would be enough to have Reprieve. What's gonna happen if we SD without the materia equipped?
You need warding and subversion to eliminate the debuff called instant death which self destruct gives. Without those two materias you will die because reprieve will not proc. Reprieve does not proc if a "instant death" debuff is applied. I'm sorry I just now am seeing this comment idk why i was never notified
Wait what? Where did you get self destruct, transference module and Götterdämmerung from?
Is the Fury Ring necessary to pull this off? And do you HAVE to use a weapon with Reprieve to make this work? Asking because I LOVE using the Buster Sword 🤔
I followed everything in your guide but for some reason Tifa's limit break is not full (missing a little bit) after the self destruct.
Love your channel man. Tifa somehow reminded me of Levi from Attack on Titans. She's a human fidget spinner.lol
I tried it last night but this reprieve doesnt activate...i always die...even with hp absorb...just doesnt work...reprieve is like concentration?..random?..
How high is your warding materia? And you have warding paired with subversion right? Let me know I wanna help so you can enjoy this build!
@@BltzZ thank you i figured it out...i have 1.40 on top secrets and i wanted to make some strategy with it to make even better time...but it needs too many slots and you sacrefice a lot for this build...plus on top secrets bosses doesnt fill the limit full...i had high hopes to even break finaly the world record with this...but nope....😅 But i will do it...i promissed toyself i will....but hey...this idea you had its still great...keep up the good work .
Haha yeah this build is better suited for AOE fights and some bosses included. Keep trying I believe in you! 1:40 is amazing timing!
@@BltzZ just made 1.32 omg omg
this not working for me I require to self destruct 2 times before my limit break is full. And the second time I self destruct Cloud stays dead?! WHY?! I dont get it my Cloud has the same stat as yours. I am trying this against the Hell House in hard. I am following the instructions to the letter.
Few things to check..you have a fury ring on correct? With reprieve on iron blade? Also no HP ups. Make sure you have on a fury ring and 2 maxed out magic ups. Also subversion(any level) paired to a maxed out warding materia?
@@BltzZ I have everything you said. I have the fury ring, 2x Magic up MAX. Subversion MAX paired with Warding MAX.
@@BltzZ I have subversion in the weapon too.
Why when I do self destruct with Tifa my limit doesn’t fill all the way up haha I have the same exact set up.
How do you use subversion materia? I’m trying to level it up. And also you mentioned reprieve how do you get that? Thanks again.
Certain weapons have reprieve for characters. You need atleast 250sp to let the final skill tree appear in weapon upgrades. Subversion materia has a passive when paired with blue materia it can be enhanced. I believe it's warding materia you need to pair it with
Brilliant video, great work mate!
Glad you enjoyed it! I made some recent videos covering smash ultimate because of Sephiroths new inclusion! Let me know what you think
Damn I was playing around heavy with this but forgot to throw reprieve in the mix smh I should’ve figured this out a while ago
All good dude! You were on the right wave tho! It's a fun build I'm going to see which bosses can I cheese through with this
Hey Blitzz; do you think this strat will be effective against Whisper Harbinger in chapter 18? Or even againt Seph?
I think it can very well be and I'll be testing it via live stream!
@@BltzZ Let me know what time you will be testing it out!
I'll try this build. Seems exciting with those instant limit breaks. And it's satisfying to see that you don't die after Self-destruct. No kidding on Aerith's limit break, man. I equipped the Gotterdammerung on Aerith and used Planet's Protection on my hard mode Sephiroth boss fight. It did help on making the 3rd phase battle quite easier but it's still tough, lol.
It's a tough fight but there are some pretty cool methods to bypass it :). Tricky tho I cannot lie but I'm up for the challenge
Good video, please, where i can find the kamikaze Enemy skill for the eccletic materia? Thanks Thanks
Enemy skill self destruct can be learned from the machine enemies in sector 5 slums who blow up after you kill them. Or you can get it from the fireball enemies in the colliseum or legends bosses VR challenge. You can also get self destruct from another enemy but I do not know their name
All of my materia is maxed up, my weapons have reprieve, I've used this build on Cloud and Tifa with Fury Rang, Transference Module, and Göttersämmerung but none of it works. No matter if the enemy is a horde or a boss like the fat chocobo, and whatever or not its staggered or pressured, Cloud and Tifa never got a full limit break for me. What the hell am I missing?
Your magic attack stat needs to be the highest possible meaning 2 magic ups. Fury ring will guarantee a limit break. Also magic focused weapons with reprieve are recommended. So iron blade for cloud and Mythril Claws for tifa. I just used this method to defeat the harbinger bosses and am going to use on others. Feel free to check that video out I recently released that.
@@BltzZ I have two Magic Ups on Cloud, along with his Iron Blade which has 104 magic and reprieve but it still doesn't give me a limit. Even with or without the fury rings, and even if there were more than 4 enemies, the self destruct doesn't kill everyone in the radius and often fails to reach 80% of Cloud's limit gauge. Also even if i do get it to work, wouldn't it only be useful once since reprieve has a 1 per battle effect?
Thanks for in depth explanation. Im attempting to use this build to beat the last chapter in hard mode. My plan is to use this build and have revive on supporting characters.
I used this very well in the harbingers boss guide I uploaded last week. Feel free to check it out! You can use it for Sephiroth too but I haven't finished editing the video because I've been busy streaming hehee. But you can change your build up before fighting Sephiroth if you want to by holding square in the beginning cutscene when him and cloud faceoff.
Thanks alot fam! hoping this helps me get past Bahumut on the top secret challenge.... If so, then I'll be able to finally get my platinum trophy soon!
This is a tough one but if you can get both limit breaks to pop on two characters you will absolutely shred bahamut with this! Star shower with tifa before you dolphin flurry
Hi ! One major tip for the bahamut fight is to cast the manawall spell before the bahamut casts his megaflare on you (will halve the damage so some chars should survive to this). The rest of the fight is pretty "standard". GL, man !
@@blondinsentenza6862 I've been using manawall already, my main problem is I keep running out of magic before I can kill him and then he just takes everybody out lol
@@BltzZ trying this today!!!
Keep me updated let me know how it works out
Hi, can i use this strategy to fill up Aerith Limit Break then use Planetary Protection in Weiss fight?
Yes and no. Weiss might not give enough meter back for it. but there is a better strategy I have. Check our weiss fight guide
Oh sorry to ask... how do the Starshower relate to the Dolphin Flurry? Why do we have to perform it before the Limit Break?
Not a problem so starshower has a special effect where it buffs your next ability you use after it lands. So doing it before limit break buffs its damage by a crazy amount
Woowww!!! Never knew about that bro!! That's great! Thank you bro. Your guides make this FF7 Remake more and more fun & interresting for us all the players. Hahaha... :D
Always happy to make these videos and just keep on bringing more ff7 remake love for you guys!
The 2nd half of Hard Mode became so much easier with this method!!!!!
Wouldn’t supernatural wrist guards be better to use for cloud than the fury ring
If you plan to use the beserk buff for cloud everytime before you use self destruct then sure go for it
To make this work with Cloud i need to max out the Iron Blade right?
I have 400 (more or less) magic power but i miss a little of the indicator of limit break when exploding
Yup make sure the iron blade is maxed out!
I just tried this, but failed miserably. Only materia I'm missing is the second Magic Up. Because of that I wasn't surprised to only get halfway to limit break, but the real problem is if I tried it a second time it just straight up killed my ass.
Is the double Magic Up necessary, or is there something else I'm missing? 🤔
Double magic up us necessary and you need to have Reprieve unlocked on your weapon core. Those are the most important aspects. Also you need to have warding maxed out and paired with a subversion materia
i dont understand why this dont work with me? :( i have the same configuration of the video (only the hp absorbtion is not max but at 30%). when i use kamikaze Cloud dont have the limit bar full and when i try a second kamikaze he dies.
I dont understand how i can use this configuration. Somebody can Help me? Thanks
Weapons are maxed out and you have a high enough Magic stat?
Can this method be used in the Pride and Joy challenge effectively? If so, what would be the optimal way to use this for those who have been stuck on it?
This actually is tough to use in the pride and joy challenge. I have a separate guide on the top secrets fight if you haven't checked that out already. Just take your time following it and you got this
@@BltzZ I've watched that vid countless time but I cant seem to get past leviathan. I've beat him like 3 times but Bahamut wrecks me. I do thing the Bahamut fight is easier since I always get super close to beating him when I do get past Levi. I guess I just don't have what it takes to get that trophy lol. Its the only one I need for my plat
Oh no! Hmmm I'm going to try to rework the guide to not be so precise. I have a way I think I can do it too
@@BltzZ dope! I appreciate that greatly.
Btw sick picture. I looooved case closed when I was younger
Is this still working? I tried this and its not working anymore. Thanks
Self destruct doesn’t boost the limit breaks for me, has it changed in an update?
No it's still the same. You have to hit atleast 1 big enemy or 2 little enemies. And make sure your weapon has reprieve
So I tried this now, its charging less.
Had over 5k hp (no hp plus but stil over 5k), so expected to need to do 2 self destruct.
Had to do 3, each self destruct with about 430 magic attack and 5090HP changes by about 30%.
Tried with aerith with lower hp and almost 500 magic attack and also wouldnt charge all in one g, with her about 75%.
Ahh just watched clip again, my mistake forgetting the beserk and low defense.
All good, does it work now properly? Aerith should almost always get it maxed out haha
@@BltzZ
It works a treat on mythril blade but cloud is weak physically on it.
I got tired, so tired that when I swapped in iron blade for cloud, I forgot to put subversion and warding in linked slots and wondered why in boss fight was no reprieve lol. I fixed it then went bed, about to play some more, so will reply later.
I am also curious if this triggers the trade off skill which recharges MP when taking big damage. If it does its even better.
@@BltzZ I can only get it working in one go with mythril blade, seems iron blade with 420 magic and 5020HP is too low magic and too much HP, thats with 2 maxed out magic plus, mythril blade with 440 magic (and the 20% boost with full MP) is enough. I am guessing about 500 magic attack is needed, as iron blade isnt even coming close, but somehow its working in your video with that lower magic. With mythril blade the superstar belt is needed if you dont want to revive after (accessory that gives reprieve).
I noticed you used the fury ring instead of punisher beserk, I will test with that as maybe the beserk from fury ring is more powerful.
Even with a weak str weapon and manual revive it can save a ton of time, I used it on the queen in the fan duct chapter 6, you have the timer to kill the enemies, using this trick, even with arise cast on cloud, I had about 30 secs left, never had anywhere near that much time left before.
How do you manage to self destruct 3 times? My Cloud stays dead after the second self destruct. I cant even fill the limit break.
Just now seeing this dude nice! 30 seconds on that fight is awesome
Trying this method atm, I have reprieve and all materia maxed, yet cloud just falls unconscious upon self destruct :(
Warding and subversion are paired together correct? Sometimes you gotta double check and make sure the slots are paired slots
can you help me with this?
I did exactly what you show me, give Cloud the exact same weapon, same set up of Materias, but when I used Self-Destruct, it heal me only 2500+ HP, not 4000+ like you.
I already had the Platinum Trophy, just want to try new set up to have fun.
Heyyy dude do you have warding maxed out? Also are you hitting multiple enemies?
And this is why we have multi phase bosses. They knew dam well Limit Break cheese could pretty much 1 shot their bosses haha.
Haha you're right! This build alone breaks the game And I makes me want to stream a hard mode playthrough again! Maybe at the end of July we will :)
@@BltzZ Everytime I hear a great song from FF7 Remake play in my car, I feel nothing but joy. Such an amazing experience playing through that game. It makes me wanna play it again. I haven't felt that way about a game in years.
Can you use self destruct to finish off summons and get to pride and joy ?
It's possible but not the best strategy. A lot can go wrong against the super bosses. I have a new video coming with my new method to beating them easily. I also have an older video on the channel to help you if you want to check it out
@@BltzZ I need all the help I can get at present I am trying to max out my hp mp and magic up materia which is a pain , need this trophy for the platinum
@@gokuvegetavegito are you playing Intergrade or the vanilla version?
@@BltzZ original reboot of Ff7 remake for ps4
Yeah so the ps4 version not ps5? So my PS4 video is on the channel. Look up top secrets guide. Follow it for success and take your time
so you could only use self destruct once? if i use it again, reprieve wont activiate again cuz i already activate it for the first time.
You can use it a second time and survive if you build enough HP from the amount of enemies you hit. But even if you die you still gain the LB do no worries
@@BltzZ oh i see, so once you use SD, and you healed up like to the max, you should survive from the second SD to reach full LB, right?
@@austinlam2498 if you hit 2 enemies you should always get the limit break to full. For 1 enemy to fill up the enemy has to have low magic defense but it's very possible still. Also no, without reprieve the health regained may not be enough to keep you alive without reprieve. Make sure you have the fury ring on also to maximize the damage dealt and limit break gained!
@@BltzZ oh ok, I think the only i'm get confuse is how if you SD more than 1 enemy you would gain more limit break without the fury ring? Sorry i think im just having trouble understanding the mechanics.
No worries, either way you need the fury ring in order to deal enough limit break damage to yourself. Then more enemies you hit the more damage ultimately is being spread out and stacking with your limit break meter
is it normal that the limit gauge wont be fully filled after self-destruct? I am using
iron blade
2 magic material
circlet (+5% magic damage, +10% mana)
each time i self-destruct on single target, my limit break gauge isn't full, I've tried with mythril blade too but it is the same, and I didn't use any HP up on the character that using this build
Single target yup it won't always fill up but try the fury ring out instead of the circlet. It'll boost the damage even more and can either put your LB at 95 percent or 100!
Are you going into berserk with cloud before you self destruct?
Yes I've entered berserk mode before SD, it just won't fully filled, even when I used it on starrgered enemy and with critical proc
I even tried to remove all +HP core on iron blade, turn out it is the same as mythril blade( 4820) since mythril blade doesn't have any +HP core in it, still won't instant fill on single target
The single target aspect of it can be wonky I guess focus on using it multiple times 2 should do it but you need a revive on standby. How much exactly are you getting?
I see you are a Shiva man too. When ever Shiva comes on to the field I am like oh yeah.
The thing is i think barret doesn't need to use limit break because i think barret is best used for staggering (focused shot), status buffes, and tanking
Yup for sure, but I showcased it anyways because I wanted to show that EVERYONE can do this!
Pure genius hahaha. Love it.
Let's destroy ourselves to destroy our enemies!
Man I would love to try this....if only I'd bothered with the enemy skill materia 😪 lol
Lmao it's calling you 👀 you know you want tooooo 😂
I tried this with Tifa when she had just about 5000 health and it only filled about half the limit bar, but she had almost no health left. Is there something I'm doing wrong with my setup? I'm using the Purple Pains.
You have the fury rings and magic ups on tifa as well? Warding is maxed out?
@@BltzZ That's right. I know the Mythril Claws are the only other weapon with Reprieve that Tifa has, and they have a slightly higher magic stat. Would that alone make much of a difference though?
It may do just enough to put you past that threshold hmmm. I swear I got it to work on the purple pain easy. I gotta retry the build
@@BltzZ Just tried the Mythril Claws and I have the exact same setup and stats as you showed towards the end of the video. The limit bar filled about 80% this time, but not full.
That's strange! Do you have the SP maxed out on the weapon? Edit: NVM you said you have the same exact stats lol. Is this against a solo enemy or multiple?
i've been killing my tifa with self-destruct but she doesn't get a limit break. Does anyone know why? Has this been patched?
You gotta make sure you're hitting the enemies with the self destruct so she can regain health off that with HP absorb
@@BltzZ thanks for the reply! Now sometimes my Tifa will stay alive. I have sepphraic earrings, and the Warding/ subversion combo on her with the hp absorb/ enemy skill ... but her limit break doesn't go up by much even when she hits the enemies. I'm using her on the whisper harbingers. Does her limit break have to do with how much damage she delt to the enemy? I thought it was proportional to how much damage she receives.
@@MrChrisArtStudio it depends on how much damage is dealt overall and received. Which is why fury ring is the best thing for it because you deal max damage output and receive 30 percent more damage. But against harbingers I don't recommend it. It's not exactly easy to pull off. You're better off triple slashing with cloud a lot
@@BltzZ Thanks. Maybe I will try it again when my material is more leveled up. I finally just beat the game on normal mode for the first time just now! Thanks for all your guides. They have been fun!
Does this still work?
I tried this with Tifa, but died when I self destruct.
I used Mythril Claw with Reprieve, and had Subversion + Warding.
My Warding is still lvl 2, so that might also be the reason.
But, just want confirm, does this strat still work now?
Yeah it still works I used it last night
Heya BlitZ, i copied the same materia positions but it didn't seem to work out for me like its for you, i died everytime i self destruct..
Do you have low health and do you have the slots linked up?
@@BltzZ perfect health and all slots linked up..i wonder what went wrong, hey thanks for replying!
i even used fury ring on Cloud just to make sure i'm in berserk mode, i have no gotterdammerung though..
@@charliejonathansiauw8700 no need for the Gotterdammerung. Hmmm and you are using the iron blade for cloud as well? List to me what exactly you have so I can be sure. I wanna help you get this going!
Might be been patch already
You are a genius!
Actually for Aerith the build could be nice with Refocus, giving her 3 ATB gauge early for the rest of the fight and she could devastate the ennemies with Arcane Ward and casting 2 powerfull spells in the row, or other of her support abilities to beneficiate the party.
Check out my infinite atb build video where I used that setup without the limit break self destruct but showcase how devastating 3 ATB aerith can be against top secret shiva!
I’m missing 10 sp for tifa do you know where to get the last manuscript?
Help pls..
Chapter 3 hard mode is the easiest you need to complete the on the prowl side mission for tifa to get 10sp
The quickest would be chapter 10 to defeat abzu right in the beginning actually. Then you can save and chapter select back to where you need to go
BltzZ I’ll try
but I’ve done hard mode twice already
Ok well then you are missing a manuscript in a VR training in chapter 17 or the colliseum in chapter 14. Check both of those chapters I think you'll find the last one there. Especially if you've already completed Hard Mode
Ok thx
So, you can use this trick only one time per battle, right? since Reprieve can use once per battle.
Technically you can still do it. They'll just die and you have to revive. They'll keep the LB
@@BltzZ I've tried my build with all material settings as yours but I used Mythril Saber and 1 Magic up and I got a magic attack = 420 when I used Self-Destruct (with berserk) it only filled my limit 80-90%. Do you have any suggestions for this?
Do you have a dynamic duo video?
No I do not unfortunately
I've been freaking out wondering why I can't find the Ragnarok accessory oh my God I'm playing rebirth
So with Aerith you can just chain Planet's Protection ?
You really can!
Setting up this build rn. Brb
Dude enjoy this one it's insane fun
You cover three essential parts of the build here: HP Absorption + Enemy Skill, Warding + Subversion, Reprieve. But it is not clear to me what each of these parts do. It would be nice if you covered it in details. E.g. I would expect it is enough to have Reprieve only. Ok, probably that would leave us on 1hp after the self-destruct. Probably that's what we need HP Absorption for. But it is still not clear why do we need Warding + Subversion and what's gonna happen if we don't have it.
I covered this in previous videos prior to this one. But basically we need Subversion and warding to avoid the instant death buff. Self destruct inflicts instant death debuff. Reprieve will not activate if instant death debuff is applied. So now that instant death debuff is no longer applicable thanks to warding and subversion, we drop to 1 HP but self destruct damage and HP absorb heal us back up from 1 to approximately 3000 or more. Hope this explains it well. Feel free to message me if you have any other concerns
@@BltzZ Exactly, Reprieve is redundant. It does not change anything. Just checked it. It is simply not triggered. Only Warding+Subversion can save you from dying, but you still loose HP. That's why you also need Absorption. So maybe you should clarify Reprieve is not relevant here.
@@nicolatesla378 so I just did a retest for you. Cloud with Mythril Blade which does NOT have reprieve but has a very high MGK ATK Stat. ES+HP Absorb & Subversion + Warding & 2 MGK UP. Cloud died from the first self destruct...my second test was cloud with twin stinger which has Reprieve but lower MGK ATK Stat. ES+HP Absorb & Subversion + Warding & 2 MGK UP. Cloud SURVIVED the first self destruct and reprieve says it ACTIVATED. Then I tried twin stinger self destruct again without Subversion + Warding and cloud DIED from the first Self destruct. Who did you test this on and what weapons do you have on to where you are surviving without reprieve? Even if you resist death with Subversion and warding & no Reprieve you still will die if the damage exceeds 9999 which it does. You'd need to hit enough enemies to deal enough to reheal and survive. Which is not a practical scenario. This method using Reprieve is practical for ALL scenarios against 1 enemy or 5. I even used this in a boss guide against the harbingers I released a few weeks ago. This method also assures you gain atleast 95% or full limit break off one Self destruct. Whereas with Barret if you have high HP and do this you will only gain 60 percent limit break bar for 1 enemy. Because his health naturally is too high.
@@BltzZ Hm, seems like things are more interesting than I thoughts. Test 1: Twin Stinger, no relevant materia => death. Test 2: Twin Stinger, Warding+Subversion => survive with Low HP. Test 3: Twin Stinger, Warding+Subversion, ES+HP Abs => survive with Medium HP. I never saw Reprieve activated 🤷♂️
@@nicolatesla378 it should say on the right side of the screen reprieve activated
I noticed you can only survive the first self destruct. If you do it more than once in a fight you’ll instant die but still get the limit break. Make sure to have another character use arise
Yup they should have arise on standby just incase. Mainly for barret since he has so much health he can survive this multiple times
Aerith with all magic ups and luck plus for all critical hits. Sheesh!
Hey I’ve tried your build on cloud, but he always died. I followed everything but he still died without his limit breaks full. Thoughts?
Is Square Enix already patched this?
Hasn't been patched to my knowledge I used it the other day. Cloud had the iron blade on? And reprieve etc?
@@BltzZ yes I followed everything: reprieve, iron blade, materia built, etc. But most of the time , Cloud didn’t reach limit break after self-destruct.
Can you use this to get the Gotterdammerung? I'm having issues with that fight.
You can but its tricky. You'd need to do it with tifa so the pressure gauge lasts longer. Try blending it with my top secrets fight guide
Does it still work? I'll tried it and died....
This looks very interesting. Could help me on hard mode
It most definitely can tbh! Ive been using this all day yesterday on hard mode for testing too
I find hard mode so strange in this game. Once you have maxed out Materia I think hard mode is easier than normal mode.
@@zhaf maxing that materia out and having matchup knowledge for hard mode goes a long way. The hell house was easier the second time around on hard mode because I learned the fight matchup haha. It wrecked me so badly on normal
@@BltzZ i fought Hell House (i do agree it's so much harder on normal lol) on a few occasions and the number of tonberries thrown out during Hard mode depends on which grade of hand massage you chose with Mdm M. If you chose the poor man's course, you'll only get 1 tonberry thrown out, and the difficulty to finishing it off is easier too. And if you picked the ultimate course at 3000g, hell house gets a a lot harder; throwing out 3 tonberries each time the door is open during the fight. try it!
@@BltzZ I think once you "get" FF7R combat you don't really have any problem with combat. On my normal playthrough it was Hell house and Eligor that made me really pay attention to what was going on. After them I didn't really had any difficulty with any combat in the game baring from some of the combat challenges.
Once all the materia are maxed and you have fury rings/Platinum Earrings you can just dps down all the enemies including bosses in hard mode by exploiting their weaknesses. I've seen the speedrun strats. They're not far from what I am doing. They're just doing things faster.
Ok. I die when I self destruct. How are you gaining hp back like that?
Hey do you have reprieve on that weapon? Also do you have HP absorbed paired in a link slot with enemy skill?
@@BltzZ thanks for replying. I realized I didn't have ward maxed out. I went back and did so. And I did pretty much the same set up you got with cloud (using twin stinger) my hp is under 5k. I went into fury through punisher mode then self destruct. But @5:32 when you do it he losses about 1k hp. I lose almost 4k and still short of a limit break.
@@BltzZ my set up: ES, hp ab, fire, Mag upx2, atb stag, subv, ward, skill m, and first strike
Btw we just finished part 1 stream of FF7 OG last night and starting back up tomorrow night Thursday 7pm eastern new York time. Join us! The community has been loving the gameplay. I hit two enemies with that self destruct so it gave back some more health for me
Totally will use it
You're going to love it
Wow. I've been avoiding self destruct because I thought it was an instant k.o. for your character but it's actually viable
Super viable and absolutely a lot of fun haha
Me before watching: well you just use ragnarok
Me after watching: aaaahhh:D
HAHAHA i contemplated on putting (without gotterdammerung) in the title but i figured against it XD hmm i may add it actually because now that i think about it many other may see this title and shy away thinking it is about the accessory! omg lol
Hhhhhh😂 yeah but over all an great idea for the title of this guide. Makes u interested in finding out(maybe) what's all about...
@@BltzZ no Bro you decided right in my opinion. I think it's an genious Idea 👑👑. Made me watch this emediatly when I opened YT!
Thanks man I appreciate that!
I'll take this into account. Hard Mode is kickng my ass so much that I'm starting not to have fun. I wish there was a difficulty in between Hard Mode and Normal because Chapter Select on Normal is too easy since you're starting on your Ch. 18 level, but hard Mode is just too hard for me.
I know exactly what you mean, with hard mode I find as long as you keep spam switching characters all the fights become a breeze
@@BltzZ What do you mean by spam switching?
Pressing up and down constantly to keep switching teammates to use ATB or attack. Doing this will keep the enemies confused on who to focus
HpAbsorb-enemyskill algid aura on cloud gives you a huge ton of HP by while attacking the enemy even if your being sat on or dazed. Great for hard mode because it's just working away for you while your trying to fight or evade
Also, learn to get good with using counterstance on Cloud with HardEdge. Tifa is the best DPS in the game, but sometimes she can be tough to use against certain enemies. Counterstance can counter 99% of all enemy attacks (even multiple enemies simultaneously) and you can breeze through enemies and save magic for boss fights if you need it. Just practice the timing, it can be tricky sometimes!
This is interesting. I'll wait for this.
It's probably Top contender for most fun build! 😁
can't wait for rebirth!
Could you use this setup to beat the top secret bosses for the first time?
If you use it while they are staggered or pressured then hell yeah! Just make sure cloud and Tifa have elemental+fire on armor to absorb damage