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  • KONGMUNISM IS REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks everyone for the love and support, melee is meant for sharing and I appreciate having you here with me!
    Shoutouts to all the incredible players mentioned in this video for their likeness, for their gameplay, and for creating these incredible melee moments:
    Hungrybox
    Junebug
    Ringler
    Zain
    Chango
    Mang0
    Plup
    Armada
    Rienne
    Aura
    Mew2king
    Bowser Dave
    Codeman
    S2J
    SFOP
    Magi
    Cody Schwab
    TheSWOOPER
    Aklo
    KoDoRiN
    Leffen
    Axe
    Rocket
    Spark
    Shoutouts to Brockor for their amazing unranked falco meme content: • when an unranked falco...
    Thanks to Gamerfreak for the FOX TAS footage: • 20XX: The Ultimate Sho...
    Thanks to the incredible tournaments and tournament organizers/producers who helped bring this footage to the masses.
    Music:
    Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time: In a Room
    Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time: Hyrule Castle Grounds
    Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time: Minuet of Forest
    Pokemon Emerald: Rival Battle Vs May
    Pokemon Emerald: Gym Theme
    TheOfficialLobst: Interdimensional
    Bramble Blast - Super Smash Brothers Brawl
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  • @TheBasileman
    @TheBasileman หลายเดือนก่อน +181

    That Duck vs Hbox set is so bittersweet because on one hand it was amazing to see Samus do so well, but on the other hand, I don’t think Samus will ever get that close to winning anything ever

    • @powerowl2120
      @powerowl2120 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yeah, it's tough because duck was like the last high level samus. Who knows how long it'll be before we see the rise of someone fully committed to the character. There is that one up and commer but I can't remember his name. They're nasty tho

    • @KingKoopah
      @KingKoopah หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Singleparentof20000yap god over here

    • @KingKoopah
      @KingKoopah หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wont be long before u see a samus in top 10 she has strong attacks and strong projectiles best recovery in the game like wtf more can u ask for

    • @daisuke4bleach
      @daisuke4bleach หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yah I've always been a strong believer that she will return but that's also cuz she's my favorite so I'm a bit biased, but I firmly believe she has one of the most versatile tool sets and tho a lot of it can be mitigated or has no viable use at the moment, maybe one day it can be optimized better

    • @deformedcat7682
      @deformedcat7682 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'll give it some time. There are some top level Samus mains currently but they don't go to much. Morsecode beat Jmook and Cody last year. We also have swooper and wevans still. Wevans had one of the craziest online brackets for a Samus last year.

  • @DavidisOwnage
    @DavidisOwnage หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Fun fact, Stark was actually present at the Duck vs Hbox set and took notes for this very video while eating a burger from burgers priest and looking handsome

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      SPEAK FOR YOURSELF GOOD LOOKIN' IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT

    • @antomeister606
      @antomeister606 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No flatbread though...

  • @onlookerofthings6029
    @onlookerofthings6029 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    "A skilled Roy can beat any Fox" is becoming more and more visible

  • @meemameemer5015
    @meemameemer5015 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This is accurate now that Cody lost to BING's DK and MorseCode's Samus at GOML

  • @ldubs5884
    @ldubs5884 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Hes the leader of the bunch!

    • @tammid8423
      @tammid8423 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You know him well

    • @Dave_Chrome
      @Dave_Chrome 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's finally back

    • @ldubs5884
      @ldubs5884 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Performing for you

    • @tammid8423
      @tammid8423 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you know the words

    • @hiyaa_q
      @hiyaa_q 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can join in too!

  • @dad4436
    @dad4436 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Great video! A couple recent (tho online) examples i like are Akir beating Hbox with DK and Warriorknight beating Fishbait with Bowser

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I totally forgot about the hype Akir hbox sets! Also, Smash Papi had some cool bowser gameplay against medz at smash factor but nothing flashy enough that I wanted to highlight.

  • @Blackmamba-ce3nb
    @Blackmamba-ce3nb หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Never realized Spanish commentary was so hype

    • @KingKoopah
      @KingKoopah หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I always hated melee commentary but that was fun

    • @KalebSDay
      @KalebSDay หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Some of the best commentary I can remember in recent years. The Australian stream was great too.

  • @leon9021
    @leon9021 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Matchup experience > Character tier

  • @isuckatnames6033
    @isuckatnames6033 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I saw Aklo vs Wevans live
    It was the most hilarious set all day

  • @ThirtyfourEC
    @ThirtyfourEC หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    That Mango vs Cody GOML 11 clip looks like TAS.

    • @Llnstead
      @Llnstead หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Actually I'm pretty sure it is TAS or something, as this set doesn't exist. Mang0 has never Fox ditto'd Cody and Cody doesn't play Neutral Fox. GOML doesn't even go by numbers, it goes by the year.

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@LlnsteadTAS linked in the description ;)

    • @ItsMeChair1
      @ItsMeChair1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I have no idea if this is sarcastic or if you guys legitimately don’t know there’s only been 10 GOMLs

  • @susejtsirhc4202
    @susejtsirhc4202 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No one uses any of these low tiers so no one knows the match up if anyone gets good with them. That's the same reason why someone was able to get fang to work.

  • @seanmakesthings
    @seanmakesthings หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    LETS GO DK! That Aklo comeback was insane! More niche videos about the melee community!

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you so much!!! I couldn't agree more about DK and the aklo comeback

    • @seanmakesthings
      @seanmakesthings หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StarkDoes If you ever need some funny monkey moments for your videos lmk, I got some clips :D

  • @mitchjerge2106
    @mitchjerge2106 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    this was awesome i wholly enjoyed this

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much, that makes me so happy to hear!!!

  • @bigtoblerone8446
    @bigtoblerone8446 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love Aklo's and Savestate's Link! 💚💚

  • @pedrohdalla
    @pedrohdalla 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Aklo confirms to me that an young link can win a major

    • @LargeMikel
      @LargeMikel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But he plays link, not young link.

    • @pedrohdalla
      @pedrohdalla 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@LargeMikelThough he played both

    • @LargeMikel
      @LargeMikel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@pedrohdalla nope. He only plays fox and link.

  • @GTSkillfulTurkey
    @GTSkillfulTurkey หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love this channel and Stark

  • @teafollet5361
    @teafollet5361 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I love Melee's Link so much! It's so hard not to root for him

  • @elibonham4388
    @elibonham4388 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Damn that first clip was cold with Hbox was cold

  • @AndresGomez-rx6cj
    @AndresGomez-rx6cj 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The year is 20XX now we have turbo Yoshi beating the top tier DK

  • @momo_11o9
    @momo_11o9 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    let's go weed lesbian lmao

    • @saltyralts
      @saltyralts 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      let's go weed lesbian

    • @Lvl31Gardevoir
      @Lvl31Gardevoir 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      let's go weed lesbian lmao

    • @Miyamoto_Jim
      @Miyamoto_Jim 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bro still wants girls but can’t get one so he becomes one kekw

    • @arnoldj.samson5795
      @arnoldj.samson5795 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Miyamoto_Jimsounds like most anime fans online having female pfps

  • @ayrtonpavot3096
    @ayrtonpavot3096 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Junebug is biology's strongest warrior

    • @bucketfullabiscuits7865
      @bucketfullabiscuits7865 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What do you mean by that?

    • @rosieeeeeeeeeeeee
      @rosieeeeeeeeeeeee 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bucketfullabiscuits7865i’m assuming generic transphobic garbage, not worth anyone’s time

    • @lynk172
      @lynk172 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      DK

    • @ayrtonpavot3096
      @ayrtonpavot3096 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bucketfullabiscuits7865 check out his biggest wins

  • @hardnewstakenharder
    @hardnewstakenharder 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Donkey Kong just beat Cody lol

  • @icenovice
    @icenovice 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    it's unbelievable how low pichu's up and down throws launch, even if it is fox being thrown

  • @bradyexe3238
    @bradyexe3238 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    That thumbnail age wonderfully

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My prophecies are a gift and a curse

  • @FishFoodexists
    @FishFoodexists 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is why you either get the opinions of 2+ top players or take the average of every teirlist you see

  • @DublinSeafoodInc
    @DublinSeafoodInc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good

  • @rarebeeph1783
    @rarebeeph1783 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing to keep in mind:
    If your character has a 25-75 matchup, then (using standard Elo math, not sure what rating system is used in melee) you should expect an even fight if you're 200 elo points better than your opponent

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't know what is being cooked here ‼️🍳

    • @rarebeeph1783
      @rarebeeph1783 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StarkDoes Basically saying that the skill difference between a top 10 player and a top 500 player very well might already be enough to consistently overcome a bad matchup

  • @markmenchu3724
    @markmenchu3724 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eddy is my hero

  • @frankimaserati1395
    @frankimaserati1395 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What about that time leffen was getting bodied by that dk player till he switched to shiek

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That was ringler at mainstage!
      I had it on my mind to include, but I was happier including some solid and more recent games against Zain!

  • @feelsokayman5656
    @feelsokayman5656 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the commentary 10/10

  • @alexanderespinoza
    @alexanderespinoza 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fuck yeah

  • @cronkybonky
    @cronkybonky 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MEWTWO IS TOP TIER RAAAAGH

  • @Heartache2491
    @Heartache2491 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Melee siiiiiick :)

  • @HuskyBanana6
    @HuskyBanana6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rocket mentioned :0

  • @Techstrobe
    @Techstrobe 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    man showed the fake buffed pichu lol

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm not sure if you're just making a joke about how good Codeman is or if you're serious LOL

  • @burnerffx
    @burnerffx 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i got clickbaited lol

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Happens to the best of us

  • @robbiesrevelations3096
    @robbiesrevelations3096 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    These moments don't debunk anything. Melee tier lists are usually based on how many options a character can do in any situation, matchups, and results. It's not just one. It's all 3. Also, how exactly do we know that these moments weren't taken out of context?
    Now, does that mean that tier lists should be taken as law? No, but they still don't lose all merit

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very important to let you know that you're coming off as really weird in this comment. You've read too much into a title that acts as a segue to the real topic, and is clearly hyperbole
      And instead you've taken the mantle as a gatekeeper of tierlists, demanding context and criteria be followed as if your perspective is law
      I usually ignore responding at length but I think this could be a good learning experience so I'm sending it your way!

    • @robbiesrevelations3096
      @robbiesrevelations3096 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StarkDoes that's not gatekeeping in the slightest. It could be taking the title too seriously, but not gatekeeping

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @robbiesrevelations3096 I'm just explaining how your comment makes you come off, it's not a negotiation or a debate :)!
      I promise that if you listened to the video, you'd understand the connection between content and title and you may not feel the need to grandstand on the topic of tierlists
      I appreciate sharing your thoughts dude!

    • @robbiesrevelations3096
      @robbiesrevelations3096 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @StarkDoes I mean I could have missed part of the beginning perhaps

    • @kaichu9446
      @kaichu9446 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tbh I'm on Robbie's side, a lot of people don't know a thing about melee and might already think like it's fox only(or anything similar), it's just big click bait for people that don't know better.

  • @Llnstead
    @Llnstead หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not to take anything away from Aklo as he is amazing, but goddamn Kodorin must have been so sad. He got him to game 5, the difference between him winning and losing was probably just lacking matchup and Link knowledge.

    • @sinnystyles6604
      @sinnystyles6604 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      naw Link bodies Mark

    • @samgould8567
      @samgould8567 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Idk, my best friend and I played Melee all the time in college. He solo-mained Marth and I did the same for Link. At first it seemed impossible to win, but after a few months of hard knocks, I learned how to win against him most of the time. Link has to put in more work, but I don’t think that Marth is a bad matchup for Link at all. I’d say about 50/50 for evenly skilled players. There’s just not many skilled Links.

    • @Llnstead
      @Llnstead 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@samgould8567 That's my point. Kodorin didn't know Link, but Aklo knows Marth. If Kodorin knew Link, his frame data, his DI mixups, etc it would have ended very differently. He got to game 5 without knowing all of that stuff, meaning he was putting a lot of pressure on Aklo.

    • @osakeleto
      @osakeleto 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you say as you try your best to take the win away from aklo lol.

  • @KingKoopah
    @KingKoopah หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love how the lowest level players are the most passionate about tier lists😂

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Such examples including... Zain, hungrybox, and Leffen?

    • @KingKoopah
      @KingKoopah หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StarkDoes lets be real who is actually more concerned with a tier list top or bottom level players

    • @KingKoopah
      @KingKoopah หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StarkDoes sure they make videos when they lose and salty or when chat tries to force them to discuss it but its really not an important conversation

    • @KingKoopah
      @KingKoopah หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And my comment wasnt a shot at you if thats what youre thinkin😂

    • @StarkDoes
      @StarkDoes  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @MRRAGERNIH I'm silver in ranked netplay, this hit too close to home 😤✊️

  • @ewwitscullen9132
    @ewwitscullen9132 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leffen is seriously the most insufferable smash player. Imagine putting Jigglypuff at the top of the list cause you lost ☠️☠️

  • @Miyamoto_Jim
    @Miyamoto_Jim 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow didn’t know _real_ girls played this game *at all!* till seeing some of these clips 😝 that’s so awesome
    *Edit, nvm there was like 1 (maybe) -BUT STILL! Better than 0