The princess was fine but Tarkan was annoying....it just had that feeling like when something is stuck in someones tooth....it could be a super model....but if she has food stuck in her tooth....you're just gonna stare at that instead of the fact that you're talking to a gorgeous model. It didn't really hurt the movie, but it could have been done better.
Not having Vader in it much and then having him cut loose for the first time ever in a Star Wars film was unbelievably satisfying. I genuinely got chills. Amazing moment.
Because some people like myself disagree it was perfect? If one movie should have had a lot of Vader tearing apart half the Rebellion it was this one. Probably no time left to make a sick Vader movie given James Earl Jones' age.
Terarex92 this was about Rogue One, not Darth Vader ft Rogue One, there will be a time and place for that I'm sure. Can't have EVERYTHING in one movie.
NaSir Osorno Yeah, it really wouldn't fit if he was the main villain in this because the story is more about the construction of the Death Star which is clearly not his job. The reason he started as the main villain in A New Hope was because, as we find out, he was assigned to find the stolen plans, which is the main focus of this movie.
Well.. yeah. But I agree a little with him though. Personally I didn't like the main villain, because his character.. well he had no character.. he's personality was none. He was just a normal director from the empire.. So if they do not have enough time to develop a villain I do think it would've been worth it to use a villain that was already developed.. However, I would be ok with them not using Vader in the movie, but since they are why not use him to a slightly bigger potential? I mean, all the characters died at the end at the hands of soldiers.. like seriously soldiers we didn't even get one line from are the "characters" that killed the main characters? Why not have some of them die at the hands of Vader? Or even the main villain? I'm just saying that (in my opinion) it would've been a much better ending to have Vader be a complete savage and murder the main characters, at least one or two of them.. He was useless.. and I didn't think the main villain was useful either. To be honest, the characters dying at the hands of soldiers would've been actually intersting for me and dramatic, but I didn't feel like it was because: 1. I didn't care about any of the characters except for Jym and the blind guy (I only cared for him because he felt so inspired and hopeful, even when he was dying, that it felt a little sad to see him go) 2. They only died once they became completely useless to the story.. like if you're going to have them die in the middle of war that is alright, I would've liked it because it would actually add that "realistic" aspect that many people told me this movie had.. but I didn't think so. When the blind guy was introduced he took out like what, 20 stormtroopers? All of them with a gun and barely any fired? Then when another crew of stormtroopers appears, the robot simply throws a grenade at them and they all die? Then when they use the deathstar to fucking explode the planet that the main cast is on, they manage to barely escape in time? Well then what the fuck, why is it that only in the ending does the main cast became mortal to the stormtroopers and the death star? If they are going to establish that these characters are all going to easily escape, survive and succeed against the precense of such things, and they're supposed to be such a big precense on the finale, it is going to feel like these characters are going against something of small scale.. if they didn't represent a larger scale previously, it wouldn't have been a problem. The battle would've felt more intense and dramatic for me if the movie wouldn't have given these characters the ability to die only when they were useless to the plot.. which isn't realistic at all. So.. if these characters are here for a real purpose and should die when they have no more purpose, why not let them die by the hands of something that serves even more purpose.. Why not have all of them die at the hands of vader or even the main villain... because otherwise it doesn't feel like the story is being realistic or epic.. it feels like.. they have an epic purpose to these characters and then are willing to throw them in the garbage after that purpose is gone.. I'm not saying you have to make the whole movie about Vader though.. what I'm mad about is actually that the death of all of the main characters had no impact on me. And I was expecting most to die at least, when I came into the movie. I thought to myself "that would be so fucking dark and shit, it would be really cool to see it but I'm sure a star wars movie wouldn't do something like that". And then they did it and I felt nothing.. it was even a negative to the movie IMO, because it felt so pointless. Again, if it felt realistic before, it would've felt realistic when it happened. If I cared more about these characters, it would've felt more sad to see them go.. If they died to serve a bigger purpose, (like dying at the hands of darth vader when it looks like everything would've worked out to show the strength of the empire) it would've felt more epic to see them go... < Just to explain, the characters did serve a bigger purpose, but their deaths were useless.. they could've gotten away and the movie would turn out the same > So yea, the impact that I think I would've felt from witnessing all of the main cast die wasn't there.
Kujakuseki01 Yea, also we have to consider that if Disney used Vader too much, there would've been a bigger chance of making mistakes with a character you can't really aford to make mistakes with. I would say that my complaint was more with the death of the cast than with Vader to tell the truth.
agree. it really kinda created the mythos of darth vadar. especially for those soldiers that survived that hallway scene.. the horror stories they will pass along of a black figure plowing through all your friends.. scary. And rogue one wasn't really about darth vadar.. so this was enough: (in my opinion.)
@@adamhsr its one of the few movies thats genuinely gotten better with each viewing. IMO its for 2 main reasons: the space battles and VFX are the best looking in the franchise and the style of humor is much better and much more memorable than the sequels.
My favorite was K2SO: "Congratulations. You are being rescued." "Do you want to know the odds? They're bad. They're very bad." Amazing snark coming from a droid.
I recognise that Empire is the best film of the franchise (and one of the best films of all time), but no film has hit me with as many emotions as Rogue One
unfortunately, I kinda mixed with how the characters written in the beginning. So I felt the last act, even though it was amazingly done, it didn't have enough emotional impact to me. Except K2SO, his sacrifice affected me more the most because his character is just so great.
What the guy above me said. Damn I loved that scene more then any other in years. Its Vader being exactly what hes suppose to be, bad ass and evil. Please GIEF me more. However when James Earl Jones made the voice in the first scene I seriously got chills. I love that man! It was so amazing to hear him again!
I believe she had a Stormtrooper doll because in a flashback we see she and her parents were stationed on an Empire base or Star Destroyer. I guess those were propaganda toys.
That flashback scene was written in Catalyst, the precursor novel to Rogue one, and ALL of that backstory is explained. They were living on Coruscant, since Galen was working for the Empire in their most important science facility. That scene is from their living quarters on coruscant, which is explained in GREAT detail in Catalyst.
Catalyst only explains how Saw Guerrera and the Ersos got to know each other and the backstory of Galen and Krennick's relationship, with a smattering of Tarkin vs Krennick. Read the book, it's really good, and it'll answer a lot of the questions related to the Ersos.
It’s one of my favorite scenes of any movie I’ve ever seen. There’s something so chilling about seeing something he created looking back at him with no remorse
Krennic was the best co villain to Vader. Every scene with him and the Death Troopers was menacing and added suspense to this war flick....this guy was arguably, Tarkins competition...Galen Erso as the scientist that engineered the blueprints to the Death Star, was an interesting plot to a massive story...
Jyn's father was working for the empire, which is shown in one scene(this was before Galen denounced them went to live on as a farmer), so her childhood toy being a stormtrooper is understandable.
Right but Galen hates the empire by the time the movie starts. But I think it’s like she has an attachment to it and won’t let them get rid of it kind of thing. It can still work, true.
@@iforgot87872 i understood it as Galen hated the empire but understood they were very powerful, and probably wanted his daughter to grow up on the side of the empire to stay the safest
Why is Force Awakens shit on of all a sudden? It seems like there is nothing but TFA hatred in this comments section. Sure, TFA isn't perfect, but no we're near as awful as people are making it out to be.
beestplayer44 I think people don't realise how much TFA had to do in one movie,,,it had to bridge the gap between new and old fans and bring in new fans while at the same time be familiar AND new.
beestplayer44 I def agree & its so strange to me tht people see this as a weakness in the film... a lot of the scenes (for the most part) aren't ripping off ANH in the slightest, they're evoking & paying homage to George Lucas's imagery that made the franchise work to begin with. The Force Awakens has it's problems, sure but visually it is masterful, JJ Abrams had always been a strong visual storyteller, & seeing the similarities between ANH & TFA makes me feel more confident in tht assessment. As far as I'm concerned, those upset about plot structure mirroring ANH are missing the point. What's most important to holding this new era in the franchise up are the characters! & thts wat TFA absolutely nails. Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Issac & Adam Driver breathed such life into familiar yet clearly distinct characters, & JJ confidently directed them into nuanced, dynamic performances. I genuinely don't get how anyone could see the movie tht I saw & be so cynical as to think of it has a cash grab. Also so homages to the original is a bad thing? Can some people just for a minute understand why JJ & Disney did this to set up this new series of movies. it's a sequel to a 6 film legacy it was never going to be original. just like your cookies you have to start from scratch with the basic ingredients when you start baking. Oh look everyone likes the cookies they made now that you know they can make pretty good sugar cookies the next batch will be a little different we can now experiment & maybe add chocolate chips, dried cherries, walnuts, add brownie bits etc. but what you wanted were brand new cookies made from wheat grass, sorghum, rice flour, raisins, mango bits, kale & gluten free.
I love every single Star Wars movie. The problem is that now a days nobody knows how to have fun with movies anymore. Everyone takes them so seriously and nitpick a beyond belief until at least one person thinks that a certain film is garbage even though it is a great film.
beestplayer44 No hate here! I loved Rogue One but as of now love Force Awakens even more!!! Did so much setting up those amazing characters and such a fun ride, felt like Star Wars!
It's like this: TFA is not a bad movie , but if you're star wars "purist" or die hard fan, it is very disappointing. Both rogue one and TFA are obviously products of milking, but Rogue one was tasty milk, whereas TFA was kinda bland tasting milk.
Also, didn't a lot of kids in the real world grow up with some "bad guy" dolls? You want some bad guys to play with so your good guys have someone to fight against. Heck... simple example... how many Darth Vader figures sold back in the 70s and 80s? ;-) Just because you have a doll of something, it doesn't mean you have to love them.
I disagree that the film was emotionally lacking. People say it's because none of the characters have deep back stories...but so what? That doesn't automatically render the ending unemotional. We know they are rebel fighters, each fighting to bring down the Empire and establish a new hope, and when they succeed in acquiring the Death Star plans and then die tragic deaths on Scarif, along with brilliant music and visual scenes of the explosion, it is very sad and emotional. I tear up each time I watch the ending, and almost everyone leaving the theatre was sniffling too. The ending is stunningly sad.
I loved the fact that these characters didn't have huge backstories - to me, that was the point. They each recognised in the others they came across that if they were in any other situation they probably wouldn't have met, much less had to trust or work with each other, yet they knew that this was much bigger than each of them individually, so didn't ask too many questions knowing their own story and past actions were equally as murky to the other. Their pasts were irrelevant to the mission, each person added their own skills and abilities to take each step to get to their goal, and their actions during their time together were all the others needed to know about them, to make it to the next step, to complete the mission. I cried, and my 11yo daughter also cried during the ending of the film, because in that short amount of time, with how little we knew about each of them, yet felt their urgency, their need to complete this mission, and how they each realised that the mission was bigger than themselves, and it was worth it to sacrifice themselves for the good of everyone else, and their redemption from whatever they had done in the past, or felt about themselves about it.
Not a good SWBF player See that's what I thought too because there was no card in the corner telling us where we were. However it's been confirmed to be Mustafar. It's on the Wookieepedia page of Mustafar.
its unfair judging the characters background based on just one movie, It would feel convoluted, botched and overcrowded if every rebel got a solid back story. we had a whole trilogy to know luke, leia and han and even in all the original trilogy, we still didn't know anything about Han and chewie's friendship but we loved them any way. same here, the characters had amazing chemistry despite the short length. its amazing what they achieved!
***** we did even get a lot of development from the characters, like for example K2SO started out as a selfish robot but ended up sacrificing himself. Base who believed in the force by the end and more
WellFedArtist But somehow we encourage all other movies outside the Star Wars series to establish their characters in one movie like most good standalone films should do?
Benjamin Jones it depends on the movie. If in-depth backstory is needed to explain a characters reasoning then yeah. But that's not this movie or story.
Really enjoyed the review. But I don't agree with some of what you said; first of all, about the characters. You don't need flashbacks or some overextended exposition to connect with some characters; Leia was a princess, part of the rebellion, and that's it; you know Han Solo is a bandit because a bounty hunter says it, and because Han shoots him first; Han Solo and Chewbacca have a great relationship, but it's not explained how that actually came to be, and it doesn't matter; R2-D2 and C-3P0 are... droids. And there you go; they're developed through their actions, you learn to love them because of what they say and what they do. The true backstory for Han and major development for Leia come in Episode 5, but they were great characters already nonetheless. In this movie, for example, Cassian gets an amazing introduction and through that and his actions, you actually connect with his character, you know who he is, even if he doesn't say what he did and why he did it since he was 6. About the temple defenders; their relationship is endearing, but why should we know how they got together? We know what they are, and their relationship is explored through their dialogue, and through their actions. I don't believe you actually need backstory for every single character in order to care about them, or to connect with them; better this than the Suicide Squad treatment. Another point I'm not really with you on is the Tarkin issue; I was actually surprised on how good the cg was. Could I tell it was CG? Yes, but mostly because I knew Peter Cushing is dead. And you can tell most of the ships are cg, and even K-2SO is cg - which is pretty clear once he starts walking - but it's really good cg nonetheless. I felt like it held up really well, much better than that disaster that was Supreme Leader Snoke in episode 7. Lastly; thank god everyone died. I know it's not that surprising, but it was still a clear sign that Disney - and the screenwriters - had the - pardon my french - balls to actually do it. They could have easily made Jyn take an Imperial ship and run away, so that they could make a sequel. But they didn't; it's the story of a suicide mission. And Vader on the beach... The Empire would have won. There's no way a screenwriter puts Vader in the actual fight without destroying Jyn's plan in two split seconds. And don't forget; the Death Star destroyed that beach. You put Vader in there, you have to dump the Death Star's attack. Now I want to add something I feel was one of the best things in this movie; this is the first movie in which I've actually felt the horror Rebels felt when facing the Death Star, and when they faced Darth Vader. You know Vader is a power to be reckoned with, but I've never, and I repeat, never felt THAT MUCH terror from his presence. Those last 20-30 seconds of him slaughtering rebels is actually pure terror. Also; you know the Death Star is able to destroy planets, you know it's that strong. However, I've still never felt the terror of it being a mass destruction weapon until this movie; in this, you can really feel why the Death Star is so dangerous, and not just under a strategical point of view. It's just like the atomic bomb; one second, and you destroy a city and the whole county around it. I've found it much more impressive than Alderaan's destruction in episode 4.
Something that also bugs me about this review is that Chris ignored Cassian's arc. Cassian's character starts out a very hardened rebel that does what he's told and focuses on the mission first hand with no personal input or evaluation of his actions, but over the course of the film he changes to trust his own principles rather than just following along with the rebellion, which is made evident by him refusing to shoot Urso's father and gathering volunteers for the climax. It's subtle, it helps us identify with the character, it isn't preachy, and it doesn't take up time. It's a solid little arc for a supporting character and more importantly, it has no less depth than what Han was given in A New Hope. It honestly seems like some of Chris's points are a bit half-baked.
Peter Sanders, I agree with everything you've said. I was hoping i wouldn't see a lightsaber in this film, but when I did see it I shit my pants, which is exactly what I wanted. Jedi and Sith and all that are suppose to be powerful legendary wizards, but ep1, 2, and 3 make it seem like everyone, including babies, are jedi. I want to feel how cool Jedi are, but its so common I cant. Vader lighting up his laser sword in that dark hallway, 2 hours in to the film, slicing people up no problem, smashing people against the ceiling with his dark wizard skillz, blocking bolts with this gloves like on empire... daaaaaamn. only way they could have made it better is if he was squeezing fools to death until their guts flew out.
I know this is an old video, but I always have to say this about the Peter Cushing/Tarkin scene. I believe that if the character is identical in their appearance and demeanor, it is still respectful for passed away actors.
Xxunstoppable KilaxX Yeah I honestly felt so bad for those rebels like they stood no chance against him. 😧 one of the rebels tried to blast him but he was choked and thrown like nothing😧😧
those AT-ATs werent AT-ATs. They were AT-ACTs. They are not designed for battle but instead for transporting cargo; therefore, they have weaker armor on their midsections
But why where they there? It made no sense, since a huge walking cargo thing might make sense on a large expanse of ice or desert, but the geography of Scarit is small strips of sandy beach and palm trees, and they already have a heavy rail transport system. An AT style vehicle makes no sense here. This is what is ruining the new movies, they seem to force in references to the old films even when it makes no sense.
Kal-El fan 49 Well, Han Solo was a guy who owned a ship, makes sense he'd have someone else helping out, like a crew. And Han and Chewbacca don't die at the end of New Hope, we saw their relationship for two more films. Donnie Yen and Jiang Wang (I think) guys could've used more backstory like the rest if the characters
As much as I understand your gripes about Tarkins CGI, the story COULD NOT have happened without him. They don't go over it much in the movie, but krennic and Tarkin hate each other. I think they cut a lot of that out, because it seemed a little odd that he got *that* upset about losing command of the DS, and constantly whined about being referred to the emperor. In Catalyst it fleshes out how badly he wants to be at vaders level.
Also, AT-ACTs most likely aren't as strong as the AT-ATs, as they have less weapons are are mainly meant for hauling cargo. At least that's how my brain justified it.
Ryan Meaker True, but most of Tarkin's dialogue could have been done as a hologram, or in wide angle shots, or in shadowy settings. Instead they opted to do long, drawn out, close up scenes in very well lit settings. A perfect recipe for tacky CGI.
The thing is that the writers made that choice years ago, even before Rouge One was started. In the Tarkin novel (released in 2014) they set-up that the Emperor gave Tarkin the job of overseeing the entire Death Star project. It would make no sense within the rest of the fiction that is out there for Vader to be near the project because that isn't what is role is in the universe. It had to be Tarkin because the novel with his name had already set-up that he was in charge for 14 years. So when they wrote Rogue One and Catalyst they had to write it in a way that makes sense with the material that came before it.
Notice that there where huge empty spaces in the "AT-AT's"? That's cause they were supposed to be a cargo carrying variant called the AT-AC, so it doesn't have the same capabilities of the AT-AT's. Still wasn't explained well to anyone who went in blind, so I understand why you were confused why they were taken down by X-wings :D
Pomai Kajiyama you're welcome :D yeah, before I knew they had weaker armor, I originally thought when they shot a rocket at the AT-AT (as I thought it was at the time), it looked like it blew up, and I was all like "where were those on hoth?!?". Then in a later trailer they showed that it didn't work, and I thought "oh, that makes sense", then the X wings come in and successfully destroy it! I thought "they DID have those on hoth, so why wouldn't THOSE do it?!?" And I was getting ready to go on a nerdrage, when suddenly, "they aren't made for combat, they're made for cargo". So I guess they get away with it now.
From what I remember, the X-wings fire directly into the open cargo bays, which would bypass any armor they had. Also, they were on a planet surrounded by a planetary shield, so I think the Empire figured that no one would ever be able to invade the planet.
Kristoffer Skjørestad Yeah but with that further back flashback, you see that her and her father lived happily with the empire so she probably got the doll then. I doubt her dad would've got rid of his child's doll because he fell out with them.
That was to signify the overall presence of the empire. If you read some of the other canon or watch rebels, it explains how people would join the empire because they believed it to be the right thing. Even some of the pilots in the rebellion originally joined the empire before they knew how bad it was. The doll kind of symbolized how people did think the empire was for the best.
I don't understand how someone like Chris who criticises and apparently makes movies himself, admits that the new trilogy has pretty major flaws but he still defends them to this day.
@@BirdieImagineeBCH Because if you actually look at Rouge one from a film perspective and not a fan boy perspecrive you will see why he didnt like it. And one reason he mention is the lack of characterization. There is simply no attempt to make these character memorable or reason why should we care about any of them. You could remove the entire plot about Jym father being architect of death star and replace with some arbitrary reason on how Jyn was able to find out where the death star plan and its weakness it wont change her character and emotional stake she hold. And that is kind of problem. It flash no substances. There are little reason to care for any of them hell i dont even remember their name. The fact rey the character fan hate for being mary sue is more memorable than literally any of rougenone squad to the point self proclaim rouge one fan cant even name a single one of them is a problem. Sequel has flaws. It lack a consistent vision due to disney let director have creative control but when you look at movie like the last jedi and see why Chris like so much you see it a movie that focus on characterization and theme and hammer on why story of star wars was so meaningful.
BAM Films LOL. wow, or the fact that an old guy from 1977 looks the same in 2016. that didn't throw you off at all. no, it's because I had to remind myself that he's dead.
The human brain is made to detect anything that isn't real. That is why CGI that is so realistic can still be seen by us, because it's so close to reality that our brain sees the smallest non-human features or movements.
You can thank Disney for the sloppy editing at times. They're the ones who called for having over half the movie re-shot for whatever reason. I think the creators of Rogue One originally had a good movie cooked up, then Disney came in and told them to change a bunch of crap probably to make it more "family friendly," and it ended up making the editing sloppy at times. About wanting to have more Vader, I think using him sparingly made his final scene much more impactful. The main reason why his scene was so startling and amazing was because we didn't really see him throughout the movie, then all the sudden he comes out of the woodwork and slaughters everyone. The element of surprise was a big part of the reason why the scene was so incredible.
I'm not going to pretend how I know what really happened behind the scenes but I really wish people gave up on this "Disney made it family-friendly" BS. Do you know that Miramax was _under_ Disney when it made Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill and Reservoir Dogs? Ever wondered why Disney doesn't even credit itself in the Marvel or SW movies that are made by its _subsidiaries?_
I kinda liked that Vader wasn't in it too much, we got a better feeling of quite how high up in the Empire he is, and that he only became so active when it was his children involved, and the jedi appeared to return.
Ned Lightowlers I also felt that the less is more would be better as I got the same feeling with the 2014 godzilla movie where every scene of an iconic character was epic. Same was this movie for Vader and even Tarkin. Also the respect that Vader showed for Tarkin was shown in 1 of the episodes in the clone wars series but also Tarkin was already an important person even before the empire.
When Darth Vader scene at the end, I kind of teared up because I felt like I was transported to 1977 live in a movie theater (even though I did not live it). It was beautiful. The most Star Wars scene in the whole movie.
Is 8 already done filming ? Wow thats cool , this might sound weird , but i hope that in the movie she will die , a little less harsh as han ... but it must happen . It would be the best thing ..
Jadi Peperzak my understanding is that she doesn't die. And yes. They finished 8. Her death was really unexpected and they had planned to use her in 9. Now they have to scramble to figure out what they're going to do. But yeah. It would have been perfect if she had died in 8. I get that. It was still cool that she's the last character featured in R1. Touching
Seeing how this movie alligns with the original trilogy, I'm personally very happy how they did Vader in this movie, because those few scenes we get with him are now his very own buildup. Someone who is new to the francise and wants to watch all of the movies in order is gonna see Vader and think "OMG this guy is so awesome, I'm so excited to see more of him in the next movie!" And they had Tarkin, who, in my opinion, died far too quickly in "A new hope", in this one as the big bad guy, which I very much enjoyed. Having this big allignment of villains gives you a sense of the might and scale of the empire, kind of like how, despite this entire movie being about the death star, they only teased the power that we got to see in the 4th and 6th episode. Giving Vader more screentime in this movie would've just felt like cheap fanservice to me, especially since he really had no reason to be majorly involved in this plotline.
yeah, I mostly liked how competent the Empire looked. I mean sure, the troopers and others cannot hit the heroes (until the end) and get knocked out a bunch (note that scene, though, when one is used as shield and his armour works against blasters, takes a lot of punishment). But they kill everything as they finally get red shirts to shoot at, finally not just hero characters (since New Hope and Hoth, pretty much). That space battle felt so much more exciting than (the great, btw) at the Battle of Endor, where we only see Imperial ships blowing up. Here, TIE fighters are killing X-wings and others left and right, even damaging and destroying cruisers and stuff. In general it felt like a real nice slug fest between the rebellion and Empire, ended in a slaughter for the Rebels after the shock of the surprise attack wore off. Really liked this movie, if ya cannot tell. :P But yeah, the characters overall were a bit bland. The blind mand and machine-gun guy were the most fun and interesting outside of the Imperials, I felt.
Um...look, I liked the film and all, but I don't remember anywhere in the film that explained that in any way. Besides, the only reasons they're in the film is for nostalgia's sake, so they might as well have been AT-ATs.
It was simply very visible (well, for one who's watched the Battle of Hoth million times and a big nerd for the vehicles of the Empire in particular). Visible yellow containers on each side of the main body (centre area). When those are missing, there's big empty space on the main body of them (one snapped in half when X-wings hit vulnerable part of that empty area) as well as lacking the chin guns. Different head. Etc. Also very visible in all the trailers, toys and google searching: "rogue one cargo at-at" (for example Simple as that. They are AT-ATs, but cargo versions (or possibly more adaptable versions of the ones used in Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi). :) Ah, actually found entry for this thing in the Star Wars wikia page: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/All_Terrain_Armored_Cargo_Transport
I just finished reading the novelization of Rogue One, and I have to say the novel has really made me appreciate the movie more. The novel really fleshes out most of the Rogue One crew. Most of the time the novel goes into detail about what a certain character is thinking/feeling at the moment, which I really like.
i think leia was a better one than tarkin, somehow peter cushings face is more detailed, carrie fisher was very young at the time and had a very smooth face
Usually when people use "but" after they say they love something, they say something bad about what they were first talking about. I would say that your sentence would make more sense if you would have used "and" instead of "but".
the thing with this is that we know is cgi besides that our eyes and knowledge tell us is cgi because Carrie Fisher didn't look like that anymore and a legandary actor that died in the 90's not looking exactly the way he looked in 1977. But I think the Cgi is just distracting for like 2 -3 seconds tops. The cgi that takes me out of the movie is Maz Kanata in TFA is just too distracting, there was no way to have Lupita Nyong'o in that movie just being her or at least a less complicated face shape and color cgi character?
I disagree with the Tarkin argument. Jurassic Park's dinosaurs don't look totally realistic, neither does Gollum in the two towers. Films need to push the limits of CGI, and I think it looked OK.
Not sure what everyone is talking about. Tarkin looked really good for CGI. Lei looked fake. I would have been ok if someone else played her or better if they just took unused footage from a new hope and manipulated it
I think the darkest. seeing the rebels in pure fear knowing they are stuck and going to die. vader not saying anything and not stopping until all the rebels in the hallway are dead.
jays gaming Just imagine how terrifying it'd be being one of those rebels. Your ship is disabled and everything's dark, you're trapped in that room and you see Vader brutally killing everybody in front of you
It was pretty epic. But one of the reason it's so epic, is that we had several years of Star Wars movies where were told that Vader was a badass but never actually got to see it. And now BOOM! There it is. That scene made me jump in and out of my seat. I was going craaaaazy.
to be honest..i did expect one or maybe two heroes to die...but EVERYONE? that was pretty hard. Oo and i did care about them. i did care about K-2SO because he had to take so much damage by the end, it literally hurt me. :/ he slowly "died" in that facility. Chiruut and Baze....well, they had very few character development, but i still liked them and it was sad to see both of them die. even though Baze being...WAY too overpowered. killing all of the death troopers....well....the hero bonus. and especially that moment when Cassian and Jyn died in arms on the beach...it was really really sad. i didn't want them to escape because that would just have been the same thing like earlier in the movie on Jedha. and the same escape from the death star explosion again? come on...that would've been stupid. i like it how they realize they can't get away....and this final scene was supposed to show us how powerful the empire is! because....EVERYONE dies! not just Rogue One! the whole rebel fleet gets destroyed! the General (Blue 1) dies, the Mon Cal Admiral, EVERYONE! just the Tantive IV and Squadron Red can escape, and this gives us a good explanation why there were just so few rebel ships left to defend Yavin 4. guess the rest of the rebel alliance returned when alderaan or the death star was destroyed. anyway...this final battle had a great impact on me, i liked the characters, i cared about them....it was sad when all of them died, together with the ENTIRE rebel fleet...but it also felt right. for the story.
I feel like it would have been cool if only Jyn escaped and Vader hunted her down. If she were the rebel who passed the disc to through the door, think how much more you'd hate Vader.
well...i dont know, that scene witht he dor was HORRIBLY AWESOME because there were just rebels that were just...grunts. just regular fleet troopers. i liked that the focus was not on the main characters the whole fucking time. i liked that they often focussed on normal soldiers, stormtroopers, rebels, crewman etc. to be honest...the vader-corridor scene was...perfect. hands down...it was perfect. no way to improve that.
I hated how everyone just died in the end, that just killed me inside. It just, I felt like i was just screwed over, It also just made it not so sad, it makes it sad when one person dies, but when all of them die? What the hell?I also felt that the story was a little rushed in the begining.
They did not have to die. At least some could have survived so that we get more of them later maybe. This way I did not have enough tome to connect with any of the characters. I felt no chemistry between any duo there except Donnie Yen and his friend (forgot the names, that is how not memorable these characters are tbh). The characters never had enough time to breathe, little to no depth explored and when they all died I was disappointed: not because I was in love with them, but because I was like "Ok, that's it from them?!". But that's about the characters which was the weak point of the film for me. Everything else was great. Action, score, CGI for Tarking and Leia and that bad ass Vader scene at the end, brilliant!
Yeah but the final movie didn't exactly shine in the dialogue department either, did it? I mean... Jyn's little pep talk to the alliance? "I believe you (even though I have no reason to except plot convenience)"? "Hope." Granted, not prequel level of cringeworthy but pretty damn close.
João de Carvalho the fact that they ran up to the guy rather than stepping back and shooting him from afar is even weirder. But hey, gotta have your action scene somehow
It's cool yet strange imo, like based on what happened like 10 minutes before in Rogue One it was like no one gave a fuck when it came to a New Hope. How could C-3PO be bitching about going into that escape pod after watching what the rebel fleet did like an hour ago?
Kinda makes it strange that Leia was acting like they were on a diplomatic mission. Vader - "But I just saw your ship leave the Rebel flagship in the middle of the battle like 5 seconds ago"
I actually felt like he shot that guy in the back at the beginning because the guy had no chance of escaping the empire at this point and Lunas character probably knew that they would have tortured the guy. But of course he also wanted to protect the information he had.
GrimmjawJack also this story happens before ESB, it's quite logical that the AT class was weaker this time around, and has been further developed later
Benish Ben cassian has been the "black ops" of rebel alliance, you saw early in the movie that he doesn't hesistate to kill an informant, and his prime mission was using Jyn to get contact with Gallen and kill him
Good review. I'm a lifelong devotee of Star Wars, I've seen the originals probably over 100 times each. I was extremely skeptical of this film, and I just saw it tonight in the dollar Theater. I was completely blown away by it, I never expected anything so good and I'm almost ashamed to say that it might be my second favorite star wars movie, after Empire. Basically the entire premise of this film is the line in A New Hope, "many Bothons died to bring us this information." Thus I knew that nearly every character would die. As a kid, I just never ever imagined that the stealing of the plans would be so epic. I felt like the world building of this movie was so perfect, paying incredible tribute to the originals while adding the perfect amount of newness. I knew that Tarkin would be CGI, but I was truly shocked at how realistic and undistracting it actually was. The CGI in this film was breathtaking, and it never took me out of the story for even a second. For expendable characters I knew would all die, I thought the development of all of them was actually quite impressive. And the way they plugged the biggest plot hole of the entire series, how easy it was to destroy the Death Star, was the best part of the film. I didn't follow any of the lead up to the release, and I knew very little about what to expect. I think this greatly enhanced my final experience. I wasn't aware of any reshoots or new endings, and the whole story felt natural and compelling to me. And I actually got MORE Vader than I expected, and holy Shit, the final Vader rampage scene was more epic than I ever could've dreamed of. I feel like the seamless hand off to A New Hope was perfectly executed, and I can't say I wouldn't wanted anything better. The final reveal of Leah took my breath away, especially after Fisher's death. I almost cried at the ending. Honestly I almost cried at several fan service moments. This film reminded me of my childhood dreams of being a Rebel and an X Wing pilot so much that I got teary eyed and felt like an 8 year old kid again. I was so skeptical of this movie, and I thought Disney would ruin the franchise, but I'm not afraid of that anymore. I will definitely see the next spin off, this was a terrific theater experience.
You nailed it. It's incredible to know they managed to make such a Star Wars movie from Disney. Too bad they don't make the main ones like that anymore.
My friend (who is not a fan) thought Tarkin and Leia were real people. I think it's just so noticeable to us because we are fans. She didn't know who Tarkin even is, and she though Leia was just a Look-alike. So I'd hafta say they did a good enough job to convince people who aren't super familiar with the characters/actors.
Laeric Thomas see I knew who they were and I just still enjoyed the movie I'm a fan but it was AWSOME to see them there and yes I realize they were cgi but so what?? It was one of the best Star Wars movie because it was for adults
I absolutely loved the movie. Tarkin didn't bother me at all, he served a purpose in the plot. I understand WHY they put Leia in (for people who were confused about when the movie takes place) but I didn't like it as a fan. I was pretty disappointed in Darth Vader and R2D2 and C3PO being in the film. Vader was underwhelming. His voice hasn't aged well and he didn't come across as threatening as he should, plus he really didn't add anything to the plot. Oh, and Cornelius and the BallChinian dude from a new hope showing up was pretty fucking stupid. Other than that, fantastic movie! The blind guy was my favorite. Absolutely bad ass!!
I don't think we as an audience really need a lot of backstory on the characters to begin with because most people saw it coming that they would all die at the end. Why else would none of them ever pop up in the original trilogy? We got to see their humanity, and willingness to fight for what they believed in. Too much backstory would have really slowed the movie down.
Mack Long I point to an older war movie, The Dirty Dozen, as an example of doing characterization in a suicide mission film better. You learn more about more of the characters in that movie than most of the cast of Rogue One, and at the end of that movie most of them died as well. The difference was less action sequences; this film suffered the same flaw as Ep 7 as there was too much action and not enough character and personality.
I liked that this focused more on the rebellion than the characters. It fits with the whole cause being more important than the individual motif. While in the dirty dozen it was the character interactions/development that really drove the movie. R1 gave us just enough to care about the characters, but not enough to feel devastated by their inevitable deaths, which is fine by me.
I do not have a strong oppinion on the rest of the stuff Chris said in the review, but the comments like: Aah, yeah, that looks like it has been re-shooted... First, and especially when Chris talked about Vader scene, how on earth can a person know if that was re-shooted if we do not have the original scene available. And second of all, why is re-shooting a scene such a big deal in this review? That is where I mostly have problem with the review...
In fact I actually liked Tarkin turning around and seeing his full face. Was not distracting to me at all. You only knew it was CG because you know Cushing is dead. If you didn't you wouldn't know it was CG.
myfavoritescenes exactly my point to people putting down the CG. Most people who did not know that Peter Cushing is dead will think it's the real actor. Those that know Peter Cushing is dead look at it in a biased way because they know that it can't be possible because he is dead so it must be CG and then that opens themselves to see the imperfections.
WhirlOmar The 3D seemed pretty obvious to me with Tarkin. Could immediately tell and could tell throughout. It was pretty annoying. And no, it's not that we knew they couldn't get the actor. It's the way 3d is animated and rendered.
Alex Chavez I was very surprised how well everything ties in. People complain about not having the opening crawl and Im rewatching Ep 4 now and the crawl basically describes the events of Rogue One.
DannyDankTv Exactly, it's better that it differentiated itself from the Trilogy and that ending scene leads Into a New Hope so well. Honestly one of my favorite Star Wars after Empire.
The reason why the AT-AT's were easier to take down is because they aren't AT-AT's. They're AT-ACT's which are much more vulnerable because they are NOT designed for combat.
They did hit walker with portable rocket and it didn't really mind, which implicates these aren't some tinfoil plated barrows. I assume that starfighters wield some serious firepower unlike airspeeders.
While I agree the CGI looked amazing, I see where he's coming from with thinking of the future. I'm sure it will look outdated eventually and it might take away from the movie.
28RLiMod yeah same didn't even think above yet it but afterwards thought "The new hope was 40 years ago he obviously wouldn't look like that now" and then found out he was dead
MeltD0wner yeah I get he's a critic but sometimes he can be overly critical, it must suck for him because he notices every little flaw and ruins the experience
Just a little info: The walking-thingies (who got this reference?) in Rouge One are not AT-ATs. They are AT SC Ts (or something like that) and they're meant to transport containers on the planet. Later they got ordered to help the empire in this scene. Thats why one of them has a big whole in its body (if you spotted it). Thats for transporting containers.
The AT-ACT is also significantly less armoured than AT-AT's. It's also worth noting that Snowspeeders have far inferior blast-power compared to the X-Wing. Hence to explain the (that armour is too strong for blasters complaint).
Bruce Wayne unfortunately most viewers are not as educated on this as you or me, and can't tell the immediate diate differences between the two at models.
One of my favorite Star Wars movies, just a few points. - Took me 2 viewings to grasp the plot and characters - Could have a bit more backstory with the characters. I love them, but I don’t really *know* them - Tarkin was fine. Just don’t stare too deeply into his soul - Leia’s story of being on a political visit just became the peak on cinematic humor
It does make her lie to Vader all the more amazing. “...On a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.” “I literally just saw this ship above Scarif a few hours ago.”
The Scarecrow Thats because this movie is so much better. It's completely the directors fault that Han Solo's death was basically swept past and not given the proper gravity.
The Scarecrow I felt the same. I think mostly because I was expecting the Han Solo thing for quite a few minutes before his death. Also, I think for a lot of people the funny droid tends to be more of a lovable character than the "handsome roguish" male character. Maybe not, that's just my take on it
First of all they’re not AT ATs they’re a weaker version that were essentially prototypes used by the empire in a battle they felt was unimportant and a good opportunity to test them. They’re called AT ACTs and they’re armor is in fact weaker and was improved by the empire by the time episode V rolls around. Also x wings are equipped with proton torpedoes which you can clearly see them using on scariff. Snowspeeders are not and are equipped with ion canons which are much weaker. Hope that explains your complaint.
When Cassian opens his eyes as the blast hits them I always had a feeling it was hime like "OH SHIT HERE IT IS!" Then bam, gone. I actually thought that made sense.
To me, it was a kick while I was down. His death was gruesome and so he doesn’t feel comforted in his last seconds, just horrified at his fate. I really felt that.
Absolutely correct I think Chris misread the point of the eye opening He realised his fate was upon them and there was nothing he could do, so take one last look
Thanks, for this interpretation. That makes a ton of sense. I never thought cassian opening his eyes when the blast hit him was a bad thing but what Chris says about that scene always felt wrong note but I still couldn’t figure out why nor how to describe it. Again thank you for that.
6 years later and Rogue One is still Disney's best Star Wars movie and it even gave us an even better series with Andor. edit: also please watch Andor, Chris.
Omar Correa Second two were taken down by Blue Squadron. Reason being is because they aren't made for battle. Their armor is weak and they're used to transport cargo.
I agree, I was blown away at how good he looked. I could tell he was CGI, but a few of my friends had no idea until I actually pointed it out to them after the film.
Mads D I agree. I didn't mind it at all. Like this is Rogue One... no one ever said it was a Darth Vader movie. I don't understand why everyone is freaking out that he's hardly ever in the movie.
Mads D At least it wasn't like the advertising of Suicide Squad that made it seem like The Joker was the nucleus of the film. But now when advertising Rogue One, they hardly revealed Darth Vader and they're mad that he was hardly in it. People just can't make up their minds what they want.
My main gripe was the cast not feeling fleshed out enough. With Diego Luna's tiny rant, they could have swapped out the 'I was six' stuff to have him looking at a hologram of him and his parents from when he was younger while he thinks Jyn isn't looking - show, don't tell. It also bugged me a fair bit that there was no proper explanation for Bodhi swapping sides and working with Galen. You don't need massive amounts of backstory, just snippets that make them more real. More than anything though, I was really disappointed that it didn't feel like there crew became a proper unified group - the monks moved on their own, Bodhi was mostly a hanger-on and way in, etc. I'd gone in expecting them to be a real team that grows closer together, but even that last act where they were presumably meant to become a real team, the rebels seemed to be getting in the way and diluting the crew's supposed togetherness. I don't know, just felt very disappointed by the character interactions and lack of fleshing out. I'd thought Chris was unreasonable in the spoiler-free but I'm with him having seen it now.
"Show, don't tell." Yes, and Spielberg should've shown an entire flashback of Quint's USS Indianapolis story as well. Because dialogue is automatically inferior to visuals. **smh**
i have a feeling a lot was cut out. cause the heavy armor dude calls jyn little sister but thet literally never talked to each other in the whole movie
she had a storm trooper doll because she and her family lived in a imperial facility. The imperial toy store has no rebel scum. Only troopers, vader and the glorious Emperor figure.
Having watched the movie 4 times by now I can honestly say that the CG Tarkin works much better than it initially did. The first time it was just the surprise of him being there, even though you knew he couldn't be. He was under extra scrutiny. But when you know what to expect you can watch those scenes naturally just like any other character scene. Watching it this way the CG Tarkin totally holds up.
Vader wouldn't come to the beach because he hates sand
Jmgjgdjd5 this comment is fucking gold! Seriously you made my day
It gets everywhere.
Jens Kofoed oh? you are welcome
You stole that from a comment on Jeremy Jahns video.
Taco Jesus never heard of it, this is just very common joke
Darth Vader would never have had stepped foot on the beach due to his hatred of sand
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"It's coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere."
Uliseh "I don't like sand..it's coarse, rough, and irritating..and it gets everywhere."..Ring a bell ? Yes ? No ?
the cgi tarkin and leia did not bother me at all. im glad they were in the movie.
kazuma me too, I thought they looked great and helped to perfectly tie the film in to the start of a new hope
kazuma I honestly couldnt tell Tarkin was CGI but leia i could tell but i didnt care cuz it was fuckin cool
The princess was fine but Tarkan was annoying....it just had that feeling like when something is stuck in someones tooth....it could be a super model....but if she has food stuck in her tooth....you're just gonna stare at that instead of the fact that you're talking to a gorgeous model. It didn't really hurt the movie, but it could have been done better.
a few shots of tarkin it was a bit distracting (depending on the lighting) but it really didn't hinder the movie for me at all.
I didn't even know tarkin was cgi when watching it lol
Now that we've seen the three sequels, Rogue One is by far the best Disney Star Wars movie.
Sad to say, I thought solo was better than the three sequel movies.
I came here to cure my dissapointment with rise of skywalker ... yes. Rouge one is the best so far.
I liked the sequels before they came out.
TFA was better imo
@@jamescorcoran5862 TFA is hot garbage
I think limiting Vader's presence and unleashing him right at the end served the movie well.
MaC S3th ikr
Believe it or not, that might have been the most savage ass shit a Star Wars movie has ever contained.
I agree, it was fuckin' awesome. It was also my little sister's favourite scene believe it or not.
He was like a wolf to slaughtering helpless sheep.
Not having Vader in it much and then having him cut loose for the first time ever in a Star Wars film was unbelievably satisfying. I genuinely got chills. Amazing moment.
It was clearly obvious Vader wasnt going to be in the entire film, IDK why you keep complaining about it. His addition was perfect.
NaSir Osorno i agree
Because some people like myself disagree it was perfect? If one movie should have had a lot of Vader tearing apart half the Rebellion it was this one. Probably no time left to make a sick Vader movie given James Earl Jones' age.
Yeah, I am very surprised that Chris expected him to be the main villain in this one.
Terarex92 this was about Rogue One, not Darth Vader ft Rogue One, there will be a time and place for that I'm sure. Can't have EVERYTHING in one movie.
NaSir Osorno Yeah, it really wouldn't fit if he was the main villain in this because the story is more about the construction of the Death Star which is clearly not his job. The reason he started as the main villain in A New Hope was because, as we find out, he was assigned to find the stolen plans, which is the main focus of this movie.
I disagree Chris. Vader was used perfectly. Any more would have lessened the effectiveness of him as a Terminator-esque monster.
Kujakuseki01 Yeah, if we see more of him that final scene wouldn't have had the impact it had
I agree. In A New Hope it is implied that he had little to do with the construction of the Death Star, which was only confirmed.
Well.. yeah. But I agree a little with him though. Personally I didn't like the main villain, because his character.. well he had no character.. he's personality was none. He was just a normal director from the empire.. So if they do not have enough time to develop a villain I do think it would've been worth it to use a villain that was already developed.. However, I would be ok with them not using Vader in the movie, but since they are why not use him to a slightly bigger potential? I mean, all the characters died at the end at the hands of soldiers.. like seriously soldiers we didn't even get one line from are the "characters" that killed the main characters? Why not have some of them die at the hands of Vader? Or even the main villain? I'm just saying that (in my opinion) it would've been a much better ending to have Vader be a complete savage and murder the main characters, at least one or two of them.. He was useless.. and I didn't think the main villain was useful either. To be honest, the characters dying at the hands of soldiers would've been actually intersting for me and dramatic, but I didn't feel like it was because:
1. I didn't care about any of the characters except for Jym and the blind guy (I only cared for him because he felt so inspired and hopeful, even when he was dying, that it felt a little sad to see him go)
2. They only died once they became completely useless to the story.. like if you're going to have them die in the middle of war that is alright, I would've liked it because it would actually add that "realistic" aspect that many people told me this movie had.. but I didn't think so. When the blind guy was introduced he took out like what, 20 stormtroopers? All of them with a gun and barely any fired? Then when another crew of stormtroopers appears, the robot simply throws a grenade at them and they all die? Then when they use the deathstar to fucking explode the planet that the main cast is on, they manage to barely escape in time? Well then what the fuck, why is it that only in the ending does the main cast became mortal to the stormtroopers and the death star? If they are going to establish that these characters are all going to easily escape, survive and succeed against the precense of such things, and they're supposed to be such a big precense on the finale, it is going to feel like these characters are going against something of small scale.. if they didn't represent a larger scale previously, it wouldn't have been a problem. The battle would've felt more intense and dramatic for me if the movie wouldn't have given these characters the ability to die only when they were useless to the plot.. which isn't realistic at all.
So.. if these characters are here for a real purpose and should die when they have no more purpose, why not let them die by the hands of something that serves even more purpose.. Why not have all of them die at the hands of vader or even the main villain... because otherwise it doesn't feel like the story is being realistic or epic.. it feels like.. they have an epic purpose to these characters and then are willing to throw them in the garbage after that purpose is gone..
I'm not saying you have to make the whole movie about Vader though.. what I'm mad about is actually that the death of all of the main characters had no impact on me. And I was expecting most to die at least, when I came into the movie. I thought to myself "that would be so fucking dark and shit, it would be really cool to see it but I'm sure a star wars movie wouldn't do something like that". And then they did it and I felt nothing.. it was even a negative to the movie IMO, because it felt so pointless. Again, if it felt realistic before, it would've felt realistic when it happened. If I cared more about these characters, it would've felt more sad to see them go.. If they died to serve a bigger purpose, (like dying at the hands of darth vader when it looks like everything would've worked out to show the strength of the empire) it would've felt more epic to see them go... < Just to explain, the characters did serve a bigger purpose, but their deaths were useless.. they could've gotten away and the movie would turn out the same > So yea, the impact that I think I would've felt from witnessing all of the main cast die wasn't there.
Kujakuseki01 Yea, also we have to consider that if Disney used Vader too much, there would've been a bigger chance of making mistakes with a character you can't really aford to make mistakes with. I would say that my complaint was more with the death of the cast than with Vader to tell the truth.
agree. it really kinda created the mythos of darth vadar. especially for those soldiers that survived that hallway scene.. the horror stories they will pass along of a black figure plowing through all your friends.. scary. And rogue one wasn't really about darth vadar.. so this was enough: (in my opinion.)
I know it's only been 3 years but this movie is really aging well
Better than all the prequels and better than the sequels. Probably even better than 6.
It was a great movie.
@@adamhsr its one of the few movies thats genuinely gotten better with each viewing. IMO its for 2 main reasons: the space battles and VFX are the best looking in the franchise and the style of humor is much better and much more memorable than the sequels.
It's my favorite star wars movies.
People only praise Rogue one because of the ending
Honestly, one of the best parts was the "Are you kidding? IM BLIND" amazing
My favorite was K2SO: "Congratulations. You are being rescued." "Do you want to know the odds? They're bad. They're very bad." Amazing snark coming from a droid.
Skywalker K2SO has the most character in the movie.
The droid has more character than the humans.
Let that sink in.
Nate Manning Nah, u wrong
@@natemanning924 Thats not weird at all
Tied with "did you know that wasn't me?!"
Vader couldn't be on the beach, fighting the rebels. He doesn't like sand. It's course and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
Banana Beecher Love the reference!
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I recognise that Empire is the best film of the franchise (and one of the best films of all time), but no film has hit me with as many emotions as Rogue One
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Marcus Blixenkrone-Møller OH MY GOD SAME HERE. I fucking cried my ass off when the blind dude died
Marcus Blixenkrone-Møller For me disney is doing the right thing Tfa and Rogue one hit me with emotions
unfortunately, I kinda mixed with how the characters written in the beginning. So I felt the last act, even though it was amazingly done, it didn't have enough emotional impact to me. Except K2SO, his sacrifice affected me more the most because his character is just so great.
Devo Fauzan Rahman Kinda agree with you because character development is important but you don't need to flesh out 7 characters
Currently watching Andor and I have to say.. There is an even more appreciation of Rouge One than ever. This movie has aged like fine wine.
The Vader scene at the end was worth the price of admission.
brutal , almost from a diff film , like , a chainsaw masacre, vader the 13th
Just make the entire movie Vader walking through the rebel flagship killing everyone. 10/10 from everyone
Adrijana Radosevic he had to get the transmission that's why he didn't blow it up. It's my first star wars movie so idk about everything else
Steve It was one of the best Vader scenes (atleast from the main movies.)
Man it must suck to br a critic
the second darth vader scene is fucking awesome.
Mouaz Chikhani it was like getting a huge orgasm but better!
What the guy above me said. Damn I loved that scene more then any other in years. Its Vader being exactly what hes suppose to be, bad ass and evil. Please GIEF me more. However when James Earl Jones made the voice in the first scene I seriously got chills. I love that man! It was so amazing to hear him again!
I dont have the words to describe it and i almost cried when i saw Leia
I was smiling and uttering evil laughter the whole scene. It was amazing to say the least.
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I believe she had a Stormtrooper doll because in a flashback we see she and her parents were stationed on an Empire base or Star Destroyer. I guess those were propaganda toys.
paul pavilonis true true
That flashback scene was written in Catalyst, the precursor novel to Rogue one, and ALL of that backstory is explained.
They were living on Coruscant, since Galen was working for the Empire in their most important science facility. That scene is from their living quarters on coruscant, which is explained in GREAT detail in Catalyst.
暗黒騎士 Ankokukishi Sorry, but am I watching Rogue One, or Catalyst? I'm not doing homework to enjoy a "standalone" film.
Catalyst only explains how Saw Guerrera and the Ersos got to know each other and the backstory of Galen and Krennick's relationship, with a smattering of Tarkin vs Krennick. Read the book, it's really good, and it'll answer a lot of the questions related to the Ersos.
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My favorite scene was when Director Crennic looked up in the sky and saw the Death Star firing on him
*Krennic
It’s one of my favorite scenes of any movie I’ve ever seen. There’s something so chilling about seeing something he created looking back at him with no remorse
Sawyer Goolsby that’s a really cool way to look at it, makes you think how dark the star wars universe can be
for me it’s the Darth Vader hallway scene
Krennic was the best co villain to Vader. Every scene with him and the Death Troopers was menacing and added suspense to this war flick....this guy was arguably, Tarkins competition...Galen Erso as the scientist that engineered the blueprints to the Death Star, was an interesting plot to a massive story...
But Vader doesn't like sand. So it makes sense he wasn't fighting on the beach.
hahahaha
Oh, my, god
Gold. Pure gold.
Hahahaha
Yeah. It's rough and it's coarse. And it gets everywhere.
The ending scene was better than anything in The Force Awakens.
RiceDuke thats actually True 😅
Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade even the Phantom Menace was better than the Force Awakens.
RedLightning007 Just no
Eddie Rattlehead yes
RedLightning007 The Phantom menace is boring as fuck plus jar jar
Rogue One is a better Suicide Squad movie than Suicide Squad is.
Kenny Wu Not hard to do
True
Kenny Wu perfect summary
That's a pretty low bar.
Seriously though.
Jyn's father was working for the empire, which is shown in one scene(this was before Galen denounced them went to live on as a farmer), so her childhood toy being a stormtrooper is understandable.
And don't lots of kids play with villain toys?
Right but Galen hates the empire by the time the movie starts. But I think it’s like she has an attachment to it and won’t let them get rid of it kind of thing. It can still work, true.
We had Skeletor along with He Man toys as kids, so yeah... I can see this.
@@iforgot87872 i understood it as Galen hated the empire but understood they were very powerful, and probably wanted his daughter to grow up on the side of the empire to stay the safest
Why is Force Awakens shit on of all a sudden? It seems like there is nothing but TFA hatred in this comments section. Sure, TFA isn't perfect, but no we're near as awful as people are making it out to be.
beestplayer44 I think people don't realise how much TFA had to do in one movie,,,it had to bridge the gap between new and old fans and bring in new fans while at the same time be familiar AND new.
beestplayer44 I def agree & its so strange to me tht people see this as a weakness in the film... a lot of the scenes (for the most part) aren't ripping off ANH in the slightest, they're evoking & paying homage to George Lucas's imagery that made the franchise work to begin with. The Force Awakens has it's problems, sure but visually it is masterful, JJ Abrams had always been a strong visual storyteller, & seeing the similarities between ANH & TFA makes me feel more confident in tht assessment. As far as I'm concerned, those upset about plot structure mirroring ANH are missing the point. What's most important to holding this new era in the franchise up are the characters! & thts wat TFA absolutely nails. Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Issac & Adam Driver breathed such life into familiar yet clearly distinct characters, & JJ confidently directed them into nuanced, dynamic performances. I genuinely don't get how anyone could see the movie tht I saw & be so cynical as to think of it has a cash grab. Also so homages to the original is a bad thing? Can some people just for a minute understand why JJ & Disney did this to set up this new series of movies. it's a sequel to a 6 film legacy it was never going to be original. just like your cookies you have to start from scratch with the basic ingredients when you start baking. Oh look everyone likes the cookies they made now that you know they can make pretty good sugar cookies the next batch will be a little different we can now experiment & maybe add chocolate chips, dried cherries, walnuts, add brownie bits etc. but what you wanted were brand new cookies made from wheat grass, sorghum, rice flour, raisins, mango bits, kale & gluten free.
I love every single Star Wars movie. The problem is that now a days nobody knows how to have fun with movies anymore. Everyone takes them so seriously and nitpick a beyond belief until at least one person thinks that a certain film is garbage even though it is a great film.
beestplayer44 No hate here! I loved Rogue One but as of now love Force Awakens even more!!! Did so much setting up those amazing characters and such a fun ride, felt like Star Wars!
It's like this: TFA is not a bad movie , but if you're star wars "purist" or die hard fan, it is very disappointing. Both rogue one and TFA are obviously products of milking, but Rogue one was tasty milk, whereas TFA was kinda bland tasting milk.
It's actually make sense if Jyn had a stormtrooper doll, because she basically grow up and spend a lot of her childhood in the empire territory
But but it didn't have Vader in that scene so he didn't get it.
Hateful Lover
lol yeah
Rogue One review: 7/10. Not enough Vader!!!
deni sherlock i think it was a clonetrooper doll
Also, didn't a lot of kids in the real world grow up with some "bad guy" dolls? You want some bad guys to play with so your good guys have someone to fight against. Heck... simple example... how many Darth Vader figures sold back in the 70s and 80s? ;-) Just because you have a doll of something, it doesn't mean you have to love them.
why would someone have to be a tomboy to play with a stormtrooper doll? what?
Darth Vader wouldn't go down to the beach because the sand is coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere
Score
Jay S Take this W sir
I disagree that the film was emotionally lacking. People say it's because none of the characters have deep back stories...but so what? That doesn't automatically render the ending unemotional. We know they are rebel fighters, each fighting to bring down the Empire and establish a new hope, and when they succeed in acquiring the Death Star plans and then die tragic deaths on Scarif, along with brilliant music and visual scenes of the explosion, it is very sad and emotional. I tear up each time I watch the ending, and almost everyone leaving the theatre was sniffling too. The ending is stunningly sad.
Me too particulary when K2-SO died and Jyn died.
I loved the fact that these characters didn't have huge backstories - to me, that was the point. They each recognised in the others they came across that if they were in any other situation they probably wouldn't have met, much less had to trust or work with each other, yet they knew that this was much bigger than each of them individually, so didn't ask too many questions knowing their own story and past actions were equally as murky to the other. Their pasts were irrelevant to the mission, each person added their own skills and abilities to take each step to get to their goal, and their actions during their time together were all the others needed to know about them, to make it to the next step, to complete the mission.
I cried, and my 11yo daughter also cried during the ending of the film, because in that short amount of time, with how little we knew about each of them, yet felt their urgency, their need to complete this mission, and how they each realised that the mission was bigger than themselves, and it was worth it to sacrifice themselves for the good of everyone else, and their redemption from whatever they had done in the past, or felt about themselves about it.
Bea Bea Well said
Of course Vader wasn't going to be on the beach, he doesn't like sand.
And yet he's hanging out in the location that tore off his legs and 3rd degree burned his entire skin tissue
Not a good SWBF player It's been confirmed for days that he is on Mustafar
Yeah, it's coarse and rough and gets everywhere
Best. Comment. Ever.
I wish I could like it 50 times.
Not a good SWBF player
See that's what I thought too because there was no card in the corner telling us where we were.
However it's been confirmed to be Mustafar. It's on the Wookieepedia page of Mustafar.
"Are you kidding me?! I'm blind!"
Funniest moment imo
rebel in the back: *WHAT, IS, SHE, PROPOSING??*
Dat Darth Vader scene at the end was easily the most badass shit I've ever seen this year.
Why, he just murdered a bunch of people who were essentially helpless and still wasn't even able to get the plans because Episode 4 needed to happen.
Fun fact: Darth Vaders ass is crispy
Mike TheGamerGuy helpless ?? They had guns and where train soldiers, he is just that badass
train soldiers? what are you talking about. Looks like you've gone. . . off the rails
Mike TheGamerGuy it's just badass, deal with it
If you want more Vader read the Vader comics. Those are badass
That's not the same thing.
emil engen how not?
Then best one isn’t canon, the lost command and the where he killed seven Jedi when searching for obi wan
Which ones tho
its unfair judging the characters background based on just one movie, It would feel convoluted, botched and overcrowded if every rebel got a solid back story. we had a whole trilogy to know luke, leia and han and even in all the original trilogy, we still didn't know anything about Han and chewie's friendship but we loved them any way. same here, the characters had amazing chemistry despite the short length. its amazing what they achieved!
WellFedArtist that's what I think. this movie was more about the actual EVENT than the characters.
***** we did even get a lot of development from the characters, like for example K2SO started out as a selfish robot but ended up sacrificing himself. Base who believed in the force by the end and more
WellFedArtist I think Baze believed but after the empire took over jedha he lost faith until his friend died.
WellFedArtist But somehow we encourage all other movies outside the Star Wars series to establish their characters in one movie like most good standalone films should do?
Benjamin Jones it depends on the movie. If in-depth backstory is needed to explain a characters reasoning then yeah. But that's not this movie or story.
i'm sorry, but do we know why chewie and han solo likes each other?
NO.
we don't know that in the movies. that's legends m8
Marcus Carlzén wait until 2018
Marcus Carlzén Han saved Chewi. Just wait for the Han Solo movie
still aint in the movie, which means. it's not cannon for most people.
Really enjoyed the review. But I don't agree with some of what you said; first of all, about the characters. You don't need flashbacks or some overextended exposition to connect with some characters; Leia was a princess, part of the rebellion, and that's it; you know Han Solo is a bandit because a bounty hunter says it, and because Han shoots him first; Han Solo and Chewbacca have a great relationship, but it's not explained how that actually came to be, and it doesn't matter; R2-D2 and C-3P0 are... droids. And there you go; they're developed through their actions, you learn to love them because of what they say and what they do. The true backstory for Han and major development for Leia come in Episode 5, but they were great characters already nonetheless. In this movie, for example, Cassian gets an amazing introduction and through that and his actions, you actually connect with his character, you know who he is, even if he doesn't say what he did and why he did it since he was 6. About the temple defenders; their relationship is endearing, but why should we know how they got together? We know what they are, and their relationship is explored through their dialogue, and through their actions. I don't believe you actually need backstory for every single character in order to care about them, or to connect with them; better this than the Suicide Squad treatment.
Another point I'm not really with you on is the Tarkin issue; I was actually surprised on how good the cg was. Could I tell it was CG? Yes, but mostly because I knew Peter Cushing is dead. And you can tell most of the ships are cg, and even K-2SO is cg - which is pretty clear once he starts walking - but it's really good cg nonetheless. I felt like it held up really well, much better than that disaster that was Supreme Leader Snoke in episode 7.
Lastly; thank god everyone died. I know it's not that surprising, but it was still a clear sign that Disney - and the screenwriters - had the - pardon my french - balls to actually do it. They could have easily made Jyn take an Imperial ship and run away, so that they could make a sequel. But they didn't; it's the story of a suicide mission. And Vader on the beach... The Empire would have won. There's no way a screenwriter puts Vader in the actual fight without destroying Jyn's plan in two split seconds. And don't forget; the Death Star destroyed that beach. You put Vader in there, you have to dump the Death Star's attack.
Now I want to add something I feel was one of the best things in this movie; this is the first movie in which I've actually felt the horror Rebels felt when facing the Death Star, and when they faced Darth Vader. You know Vader is a power to be reckoned with, but I've never, and I repeat, never felt THAT MUCH terror from his presence. Those last 20-30 seconds of him slaughtering rebels is actually pure terror. Also; you know the Death Star is able to destroy planets, you know it's that strong. However, I've still never felt the terror of it being a mass destruction weapon until this movie; in this, you can really feel why the Death Star is so dangerous, and not just under a strategical point of view. It's just like the atomic bomb; one second, and you destroy a city and the whole county around it. I've found it much more impressive than Alderaan's destruction in episode 4.
Something that also bugs me about this review is that Chris ignored Cassian's arc. Cassian's character starts out a very hardened rebel that does what he's told and focuses on the mission first hand with no personal input or evaluation of his actions, but over the course of the film he changes to trust his own principles rather than just following along with the rebellion, which is made evident by him refusing to shoot Urso's father and gathering volunteers for the climax. It's subtle, it helps us identify with the character, it isn't preachy, and it doesn't take up time. It's a solid little arc for a supporting character and more importantly, it has no less depth than what Han was given in A New Hope. It honestly seems like some of Chris's points are a bit half-baked.
TheGermandude2 great points
Peter Sanders, I agree with everything you've said. I was hoping i wouldn't see a lightsaber in this film, but when I did see it I shit my pants, which is exactly what I wanted. Jedi and Sith and all that are suppose to be powerful legendary wizards, but ep1, 2, and 3 make it seem like everyone, including babies, are jedi. I want to feel how cool Jedi are, but its so common I cant. Vader lighting up his laser sword in that dark hallway, 2 hours in to the film, slicing people up no problem, smashing people against the ceiling with his dark wizard skillz, blocking bolts with this gloves like on empire... daaaaaamn. only way they could have made it better is if he was squeezing fools to death until their guts flew out.
Peter Sanders LOVE it you said everything i wanted to say! Thank you
Peter Sanders r
I know this is an old video, but I always have to say this about the Peter Cushing/Tarkin scene. I believe that if the character is identical in their appearance and demeanor, it is still respectful for passed away actors.
By far the best scene from this movie was the Vader scene at the end
Xxunstoppable KilaxX worth the price of admission alone
The whole movie could have been those two minutes and I would have been satisfied
Xxunstoppable KilaxX Fuck Yeah!!!
Xxunstoppable KilaxX Yeah I honestly felt so bad for those rebels like they stood no chance against him. 😧 one of the rebels tried to blast him but he was choked and thrown like nothing😧😧
that final scene was amazing. Vader just went apeshit on the rebels and you saw that they knew that they were going to die
those AT-ATs werent AT-ATs. They were AT-ACTs. They are not designed for battle but instead for transporting cargo; therefore, they have weaker armor on their midsections
Wedge That's exactly what I said/thought of when he was talking about that
Wedge While I did like this movie more than Chris, how was he (or me) supposed to know that without googling it afterwards?
Sad Black Man That's true. It was it toys I think so there could be one possible way and maybe that they looked different.
finally someone in the comments who knows the diffidence of AT-AT and AT-ACT
But why where they there? It made no sense, since a huge walking cargo thing might make sense on a large expanse of ice or desert, but the geography of Scarit is small strips of sandy beach and palm trees, and they already have a heavy rail transport system. An AT style vehicle makes no sense here.
This is what is ruining the new movies, they seem to force in references to the old films even when it makes no sense.
Agreed with everything you said Chris, except with Donnie Yen's friendship, did we know Han and Chewie how they became friends?
He is biast to A New Hope
we will in the han solo movie
Kal-El fan 49 Well, Han Solo was a guy who owned a ship, makes sense he'd have someone else helping out, like a crew. And Han and Chewbacca don't die at the end of New Hope, we saw their relationship for two more films.
Donnie Yen and Jiang Wang (I think) guys could've used more backstory like the rest if the characters
I was about to comment the EXACT same thing until I saw your comment :D
Kal-El fan 49 I hope they can show that in the Han Solo movie
I really enjoyed rogue one and I still love it in 2019
As much as I understand your gripes about Tarkins CGI, the story COULD NOT have happened without him. They don't go over it much in the movie, but krennic and Tarkin hate each other. I think they cut a lot of that out, because it seemed a little odd that he got *that* upset about losing command of the DS, and constantly whined about being referred to the emperor. In Catalyst it fleshes out how badly he wants to be at vaders level.
Also, AT-ACTs most likely aren't as strong as the AT-ATs, as they have less weapons are are mainly meant for hauling cargo. At least that's how my brain justified it.
Exactly ! I agree with you in both cases
Ryan Meaker True, but most of Tarkin's dialogue could have been done as a hologram, or in wide angle shots, or in shadowy settings. Instead they opted to do long, drawn out, close up scenes in very well lit settings. A perfect recipe for tacky CGI.
The thing is that the writers made that choice years ago, even before Rouge One was started. In the Tarkin novel (released in 2014) they set-up that the Emperor gave Tarkin the job of overseeing the entire Death Star project. It would make no sense within the rest of the fiction that is out there for Vader to be near the project because that isn't what is role is in the universe. It had to be Tarkin because the novel with his name had already set-up that he was in charge for 14 years. So when they wrote Rogue One and Catalyst they had to write it in a way that makes sense with the material that came before it.
Notice that there where huge empty spaces in the "AT-AT's"? That's cause they were supposed to be a cargo carrying variant called the AT-AC, so it doesn't have the same capabilities of the AT-AT's. Still wasn't explained well to anyone who went in blind, so I understand why you were confused why they were taken down by X-wings :D
Pomai Kajiyama AT-ACT you mean
Daniel Neary
Yes indeed, thank you fellow nerd :D
Pomai Kajiyama you're welcome :D yeah, before I knew they had weaker armor, I originally thought when they shot a rocket at the AT-AT (as I thought it was at the time), it looked like it blew up, and I was all like "where were those on hoth?!?". Then in a later trailer they showed that it didn't work, and I thought "oh, that makes sense", then the X wings come in and successfully destroy it! I thought "they DID have those on hoth, so why wouldn't THOSE do it?!?" And I was getting ready to go on a nerdrage, when suddenly, "they aren't made for combat, they're made for cargo". So I guess they get away with it now.
From what I remember, the X-wings fire directly into the open cargo bays, which would bypass any armor they had. Also, they were on a planet surrounded by a planetary shield, so I think the Empire figured that no one would ever be able to invade the planet.
Pomai Kajiyama I just commented this, then saw yours...you beat me by several days!
Better question, who's making Storm Trooper dolls?
Liam Biniares 😂
Liam Biniares Yogurt; merchandising is where the real money from the movie is made.
Haha, that was really stupid. Didn't make much sence. Just imagine if kids played with Nazy soldier dolls during WW2.
Kristoffer Skjørestad Yeah but with that further back flashback, you see that her and her father lived happily with the empire so she probably got the doll then. I doubt her dad would've got rid of his child's doll because he fell out with them.
That was to signify the overall presence of the empire. If you read some of the other canon or watch rebels, it explains how people would join the empire because they believed it to be the right thing. Even some of the pilots in the rebellion originally joined the empire before they knew how bad it was. The doll kind of symbolized how people did think the empire was for the best.
Sorry, Chris, but I loved R1. Fits into the overall SW universe.
I don't understand how someone like Chris who criticises and apparently makes movies himself, admits that the new trilogy has pretty major flaws but he still defends them to this day.
imaginee he’s likely blinded by his emotional attachment
@@BirdieImagineeBCH Because if you actually look at Rouge one from a film perspective and not a fan boy perspecrive you will see why he didnt like it.
And one reason he mention is the lack of characterization. There is simply no attempt to make these character memorable or reason why should we care about any of them. You could remove the entire plot about Jym father being architect of death star and replace with some arbitrary reason on how Jyn was able to find out where the death star plan and its weakness it wont change her character and emotional stake she hold.
And that is kind of problem. It flash no substances. There are little reason to care for any of them hell i dont even remember their name. The fact rey the character fan hate for being mary sue is more memorable than literally any of rougenone squad to the point self proclaim rouge one fan cant even name a single one of them is a problem.
Sequel has flaws. It lack a consistent vision due to disney let director have creative control but when you look at movie like the last jedi and see why Chris like so much you see it a movie that focus on characterization and theme and hammer on why story of star wars was so meaningful.
Why are you apologizing..He said that he really enjoys the movie too..😂
He said he liked it.
Honestly, if I didn't know that Cushing was dead, I never would have noticed that it was CGI.
I agree, the only reason I got suspicious is because I remembered he was dead
BAM Films LOL. wow, or the fact that an old guy from 1977 looks the same in 2016. that didn't throw you off at all. no, it's because I had to remind myself that he's dead.
I knew he was CGI, so it was obvious to me. I mean very good, but apparently so good no one I went with realized he was CGI. So damn.
I noticed it was off, but didn't realize it was CGI until I read an article after the movie!
The human brain is made to detect anything that isn't real. That is why CGI that is so realistic can still be seen by us, because it's so close to reality that our brain sees the smallest non-human features or movements.
You can thank Disney for the sloppy editing at times. They're the ones who called for having over half the movie re-shot for whatever reason. I think the creators of Rogue One originally had a good movie cooked up, then Disney came in and told them to change a bunch of crap probably to make it more "family friendly," and it ended up making the editing sloppy at times.
About wanting to have more Vader, I think using him sparingly made his final scene much more impactful. The main reason why his scene was so startling and amazing was because we didn't really see him throughout the movie, then all the sudden he comes out of the woodwork and slaughters everyone. The element of surprise was a big part of the reason why the scene was so incredible.
I'm not going to pretend how I know what really happened behind the scenes but I really wish people gave up on this "Disney made it family-friendly" BS. Do you know that Miramax was _under_ Disney when it made Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill and Reservoir Dogs?
Ever wondered why Disney doesn't even credit itself in the Marvel or SW movies that are made by its _subsidiaries?_
I kinda liked that Vader wasn't in it too much, we got a better feeling of quite how high up in the Empire he is, and that he only became so active when it was his children involved, and the jedi appeared to return.
Ned Lightowlers Completely agree!
tarkin was right under the emperor and vader respected him
Ned Lightowlers I also felt that the less is more would be better as I got the same feeling with the 2014 godzilla movie where every scene of an iconic character was epic. Same was this movie for Vader and even Tarkin. Also the respect that Vader showed for Tarkin was shown in 1 of the episodes in the clone wars series but also Tarkin was already an important person even before the empire.
True
Ned Lightowlers but his character wasnt developed, he was there only for the fans who already know him
When Darth Vader scene at the end, I kind of teared up because I felt like I was transported to 1977 live in a movie theater (even though I did not live it). It was beautiful. The most Star Wars scene in the whole movie.
I love how carrie fishers last word in a film ever was Hope...
WE LOVE YOU CARRIE
RIP
Jadi Peperzak it'll be interesting to see what last words in 8 are
Is 8 already done filming ? Wow thats cool , this might sound weird , but i hope that in the movie she will die , a little less harsh as han ... but it must happen .
It would be the best thing ..
Jadi Peperzak my understanding is that she doesn't die. And yes. They finished 8. Her death was really unexpected and they had planned to use her in 9. Now they have to scramble to figure out what they're going to do. But yeah. It would have been perfect if she had died in 8. I get that. It was still cool that she's the last character featured in R1. Touching
MetaKoop100 I think we know what he means. Calm down
they'll just have to write in her death for episode 9. it's too late for her to die in 8
Seeing how this movie alligns with the original trilogy, I'm personally very happy how they did Vader in this movie, because those few scenes we get with him are now his very own buildup. Someone who is new to the francise and wants to watch all of the movies in order is gonna see Vader and think "OMG this guy is so awesome, I'm so excited to see more of him in the next movie!" And they had Tarkin, who, in my opinion, died far too quickly in "A new hope", in this one as the big bad guy, which I very much enjoyed. Having this big allignment of villains gives you a sense of the might and scale of the empire, kind of like how, despite this entire movie being about the death star, they only teased the power that we got to see in the 4th and 6th episode. Giving Vader more screentime in this movie would've just felt like cheap fanservice to me, especially since he really had no reason to be majorly involved in this plotline.
Dragonbasty it had plenty of cheap fanservice regardless
Yeah, but nothing that affected the main plotline in any significant way, so I'm personally fine with it.
Julian Mateus Ya it was really really cringy
Well said. Nail on the head.
Chill out bro its just movie logic
Those AT-ATs were cargo versions. Lacked the chin-guns for example.
Arn-Ice yep , actually larger and called AT-ACTs. This review is largely spot on except I thought many of the characters were superfluous
yeah, I mostly liked how competent the Empire looked. I mean sure, the troopers and others cannot hit the heroes (until the end) and get knocked out a bunch (note that scene, though, when one is used as shield and his armour works against blasters, takes a lot of punishment). But they kill everything as they finally get red shirts to shoot at, finally not just hero characters (since New Hope and Hoth, pretty much). That space battle felt so much more exciting than (the great, btw) at the Battle of Endor, where we only see Imperial ships blowing up. Here, TIE fighters are killing X-wings and others left and right, even damaging and destroying cruisers and stuff.
In general it felt like a real nice slug fest between the rebellion and Empire, ended in a slaughter for the Rebels after the shock of the surprise attack wore off.
Really liked this movie, if ya cannot tell. :P But yeah, the characters overall were a bit bland. The blind mand and machine-gun guy were the most fun and interesting outside of the Imperials, I felt.
Um...look, I liked the film and all, but I don't remember anywhere in the film that explained that in any way. Besides, the only reasons they're in the film is for nostalgia's sake, so they might as well have been AT-ATs.
It was simply very visible (well, for one who's watched the Battle of Hoth million times and a big nerd for the vehicles of the Empire in particular).
Visible yellow containers on each side of the main body (centre area). When those are missing, there's big empty space on the main body of them (one snapped in half when X-wings hit vulnerable part of that empty area) as well as lacking the chin guns. Different head. Etc.
Also very visible in all the trailers, toys and google searching: "rogue one cargo at-at" (for example
Simple as that. They are AT-ATs, but cargo versions (or possibly more adaptable versions of the ones used in Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi). :)
Ah, actually found entry for this thing in the Star Wars wikia page: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/All_Terrain_Armored_Cargo_Transport
Arn-Ice They were AT-ACT's.
I just finished reading the novelization of Rogue One, and I have to say the novel has really made me appreciate the movie more. The novel really fleshes out most of the Rogue One crew. Most of the time the novel goes into detail about what a certain character is thinking/feeling at the moment, which I really like.
I have altered the movie. Prey I don't alter it any further.
you are to wear the clown shoes and refer to yourself as mary
dogeat dog hah
LOVVL: Laughing out very, very Loud. Great comical comment!!!
Haywire09666 HAHAHAHAHA!
this is a unicycle. you must ride it where ever you go.
I liked the movie overall, but I did think the beginning was meh but that the movie did get better the further along it went
Bang on. The first half was pretty meh, but much better in the last act.
+Kurt Thompson I really loved the comedy from k2 in the first half
Completely agree, I had a really hard time staying interested in the movie for the first half.
I've always enjoyed Star Wars, but the Mo-Cap Tarkin and Leia didn't bother me. I could tell it was CGI, but I thought "Wow, that's some good CGI"
it was not bad but it could have been better
Leia looked a lot worse than Tarkin to me though. Still, they should've used Tarkin less.
i think leia was a better one than tarkin, somehow peter cushings face is more detailed, carrie fisher was very young at the time and had a very smooth face
Usually when people use "but" after they say they love something, they say something bad about what they were first talking about. I would say that your sentence would make more sense if you would have used "and" instead of "but".
the thing with this is that we know is cgi besides that our eyes and knowledge tell us is cgi because Carrie Fisher didn't look like that anymore and a legandary actor that died in the 90's not looking exactly the way he looked in 1977. But I think the Cgi is just distracting for like 2 -3 seconds tops. The cgi that takes me out of the movie is Maz Kanata in TFA is just too distracting, there was no way to have Lupita Nyong'o in that movie just being her or at least a less complicated face shape and color cgi character?
I disagree with the Tarkin argument.
Jurassic Park's dinosaurs don't look totally realistic, neither does Gollum in the two towers. Films need to push the limits of CGI, and I think it looked OK.
I agree with your point but I personally thought it looked awful.
Diego Morett Gollum actually DOES look realistic!
Gollum looks perfect, what are you talking about?? (More accurately, “what were you talking about 2 years ago??”)
Definitely agree with the pushing the limits thing. Yeah it doesn't look perfect but you'll never improve if you don't practice and keep trying.
Not sure what everyone is talking about. Tarkin looked really good for CGI. Lei looked fake. I would have been ok if someone else played her or better if they just took unused footage from a new hope and manipulated it
I know why Vader didn't go onto the beach. TOO MUCH SAND.
PMM526 It's grainy, and coarse......and it gets everywhere!
Logan Oates rough*
10/10IGN
PMM526 omg you are a legend
7.8/10 Too much sand
That Darth Vader scene at the end was one of the best Star Wars action scenes ever!
I think the darkest.
seeing the rebels in pure fear knowing they are stuck and going to die.
vader not saying anything and not stopping until all the rebels in the hallway are dead.
jays gaming Just imagine how terrifying it'd be being one of those rebels. Your ship is disabled and everything's dark, you're trapped in that room and you see Vader brutally killing everybody in front of you
Eric Moss I liked it it was really creepy and I had a horror movie vibe to it
It was pretty epic. But one of the reason it's so epic, is that we had several years of Star Wars movies where were told that Vader was a badass but never actually got to see it. And now BOOM! There it is. That scene made me jump in and out of my seat. I was going craaaaazy.
Absolutely... it was very pleasing to watch.
to be honest..i did expect one or maybe two heroes to die...but EVERYONE? that was pretty hard. Oo
and i did care about them. i did care about K-2SO because he had to take so much damage by the end, it literally hurt me. :/ he slowly "died" in that facility. Chiruut and Baze....well, they had very few character development, but i still liked them and it was sad to see both of them die. even though Baze being...WAY too overpowered. killing all of the death troopers....well....the hero bonus.
and especially that moment when Cassian and Jyn died in arms on the beach...it was really really sad. i didn't want them to escape because that would just have been the same thing like earlier in the movie on Jedha. and the same escape from the death star explosion again? come on...that would've been stupid. i like it how they realize they can't get away....and this final scene was supposed to show us how powerful the empire is! because....EVERYONE dies! not just Rogue One! the whole rebel fleet gets destroyed! the General (Blue 1) dies, the Mon Cal Admiral, EVERYONE! just the Tantive IV and Squadron Red can escape, and this gives us a good explanation why there were just so few rebel ships left to defend Yavin 4. guess the rest of the rebel alliance returned when alderaan or the death star was destroyed.
anyway...this final battle had a great impact on me, i liked the characters, i cared about them....it was sad when all of them died, together with the ENTIRE rebel fleet...but it also felt right. for the story.
I feel like it would have been cool if only Jyn escaped and Vader hunted her down. If she were the rebel who passed the disc to through the door, think how much more you'd hate Vader.
well...i dont know, that scene witht he dor was HORRIBLY AWESOME because there were just rebels that were just...grunts. just regular fleet troopers. i liked that the focus was not on the main characters the whole fucking time. i liked that they often focussed on normal soldiers, stormtroopers, rebels, crewman etc.
to be honest...the vader-corridor scene was...perfect. hands down...it was perfect. no way to improve that.
I hated how everyone just died in the end, that just killed me inside. It just, I felt like i was just screwed over, It also just made it not so sad, it makes it sad when one person dies, but when all of them die? What the hell?I also felt that the story was a little rushed in the begining.
You sound like a little girl lol
They did not have to die. At least some could have survived so that we get more of them later maybe. This way I did not have enough tome to connect with any of the characters. I felt no chemistry between any duo there except Donnie Yen and his friend (forgot the names, that is how not memorable these characters are tbh). The characters never had enough time to breathe, little to no depth explored and when they all died I was disappointed: not because I was in love with them, but because I was like "Ok, that's it from them?!".
But that's about the characters which was the weak point of the film for me. Everything else was great. Action, score, CGI for Tarking and Leia and that bad ass Vader scene at the end, brilliant!
14:03 "Theres a problem on the horizon, theres no horizon"
The "I rebel" line was terrible, glad it wasn't included.
Yeah but the final movie didn't exactly shine in the dialogue department either, did it? I mean... Jyn's little pep talk to the alliance? "I believe you (even though I have no reason to except plot convenience)"? "Hope."
Granted, not prequel level of cringeworthy but pretty damn close.
"This is a rebellion isn't it? AYE REHBAHHLLL"
nahor88 I think you mean *aYYeE reBEl*
It is weird to see stormtroopers with armors being beaten by a guy with a stick.
even when the guy was blind
João de Carvalho IKR that's what I thought through out the film
João de Carvalho if they can be killed with one blaster shot anyway why even wear it
João de Carvalho the fact that they ran up to the guy rather than stepping back and shooting him from afar is even weirder.
But hey, gotta have your action scene somehow
I believe in history the best weapon to use against a knight in plate armor was a mace... :)
10:54, Bro Vader can't be on that beach. He doesn't like sand.
Nick D hahhahhahaa dude you are correct!!
I'm confused, Inception didn't really have characterisation, and Chris gave it an A+
So What are we some kinda rogue one: a Star Wars story?
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THAT'S JYN ERSO! SHE'S GOT MY BACK! YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO GET KILLED BE HER! HER BLASTER TRAPS THE SOULS OF IT'S VICTIMS!
asdfg Best comment of the century.
asdfg I saw this comment and laughed my ass off.Lol
+John Quincy Adams the Tank Engine Hahahahaha.
lol
I loved how Episode IV takes place literally one second after RO.
AwesomeBros65 more like a week
KP, its literally minutes
It's cool yet strange imo, like based on what happened like 10 minutes before in Rogue One it was like no one gave a fuck when it came to a New Hope. How could C-3PO be bitching about going into that escape pod after watching what the rebel fleet did like an hour ago?
Cus C3-PO is a heartless metal British bitch
Kinda makes it strange that Leia was acting like they were on a diplomatic mission. Vader - "But I just saw your ship leave the Rebel flagship in the middle of the battle like 5 seconds ago"
I might disagree with you on most of your problems with the film. However I do agree with you on one thing:
We needed more Porkins. ❤
Dormammu agree ;)
Dormammu Salute the Porkins.
Don't worry if someone won't bargain with you, you can bargain with someone
Yeah that fat fuck is such a beauty
it bothered me that New porking didn't die in episode 3
The AT-AT's were a cargo type. They weren't meant for battle, but for carrying things to different areas on that base.
Yeah and I imagine the blasters on X-Wings are more powerful than the ones on those Snowspeeders.
That's a doll from the time they lived with the Empire when Jyn was even littler.
"Littler" isn't a word, you can just use "younger"
well, she was more little then, wasn't she?
Smartass..
Emilio Hidalgo she was 3 years old at that age and then in the begging in the film we see here at the age of 8
"Littler" most certainly is a word, and Mr. Bopp is right about the obvious reason young Jyn would have a storm trooper doll.
Current Favorite SW movies in tiers
Utter Garbage: II, I
Great: III, VI
I never will get bored of: VII, IV, RO
God Tier: V
xevangz I like your taste ;)
xevangz I do very much agree with you.
xevangz I wouldn't put 3 & 6 on the same tier. 3 is not as good as 6.
I think you nailed it bro.
xevangz return of the jedi is better than new hope
I actually felt like he shot that guy in the back at the beginning because the guy had no chance of escaping the empire at this point and Lunas character probably knew that they would have tortured the guy. But of course he also wanted to protect the information he had.
One of the reviews I disagree with you the most on. Really like this movie excluding the squid scene
Same, I'll even go as far as saying its one of the best star wars movie made
GamingCentralTV1 same
One does tend to get grossed out.
One the beach those weren't AT-AT, they were AT-ACT.
That and X-Wing weapons are far more powerful than the Snow Speeder blasters.
Yeah the reason the rebels had so much trouble taking them down on hoth is they had limited weapons at their disposal.
TheUnknownFiddler the X-wings needed to support the evacuation against the Star Destroyers.
Exactly ! And they never thought that they would be discovered so quickly
GrimmjawJack also this story happens before ESB, it's quite logical that the AT class was weaker this time around, and has been further developed later
Chris, Vader wasn't on the beach because he doesn't like sand.
handletag ha! Perfect response.
Saving Private Ryan was a bad movie because we didn't get Vin Diesel's backstory
Perfect!
Awesome!
Taylor Williams we don't even know what the sergeant, sniper, and the medic backstory in that movie lol
Benish Ben cassian has been the "black ops" of rebel alliance, you saw early in the movie that he doesn't hesistate to kill an informant, and his prime mission was using Jyn to get contact with Gallen and kill him
Taylor Williams 😂
Good review. I'm a lifelong devotee of Star Wars, I've seen the originals probably over 100 times each. I was extremely skeptical of this film, and I just saw it tonight in the dollar Theater. I was completely blown away by it, I never expected anything so good and I'm almost ashamed to say that it might be my second favorite star wars movie, after Empire. Basically the entire premise of this film is the line in A New Hope, "many Bothons died to bring us this information." Thus I knew that nearly every character would die. As a kid, I just never ever imagined that the stealing of the plans would be so epic. I felt like the world building of this movie was so perfect, paying incredible tribute to the originals while adding the perfect amount of newness. I knew that Tarkin would be CGI, but I was truly shocked at how realistic and undistracting it actually was. The CGI in this film was breathtaking, and it never took me out of the story for even a second. For expendable characters I knew would all die, I thought the development of all of them was actually quite impressive. And the way they plugged the biggest plot hole of the entire series, how easy it was to destroy the Death Star, was the best part of the film. I didn't follow any of the lead up to the release, and I knew very little about what to expect. I think this greatly enhanced my final experience. I wasn't aware of any reshoots or new endings, and the whole story felt natural and compelling to me. And I actually got MORE Vader than I expected, and holy Shit, the final Vader rampage scene was more epic than I ever could've dreamed of. I feel like the seamless hand off to A New Hope was perfectly executed, and I can't say I wouldn't wanted anything better. The final reveal of Leah took my breath away, especially after Fisher's death. I almost cried at the ending. Honestly I almost cried at several fan service moments. This film reminded me of my childhood dreams of being a Rebel and an X Wing pilot so much that I got teary eyed and felt like an 8 year old kid again. I was so skeptical of this movie, and I thought Disney would ruin the franchise, but I'm not afraid of that anymore. I will definitely see the next spin off, this was a terrific theater experience.
You nailed it. It's incredible to know they managed to make such a Star Wars movie from Disney. Too bad they don't make the main ones like that anymore.
The line "many Bothans died to bring us this information" is from Return Of The Jedi.
My friend (who is not a fan) thought Tarkin and Leia were real people. I think it's just so noticeable to us because we are fans. She didn't know who Tarkin even is, and she though Leia was just a Look-alike. So I'd hafta say they did a good enough job to convince people who aren't super familiar with the characters/actors.
I have to say it really is noticeable, Tarkin looked like a video game character.
Lewis Scorer I didn't say it's not noticeable.
Laeric Thomas see I knew who they were and I just still enjoyed the movie I'm a fan but it was AWSOME to see them there and yes I realize they were cgi but so what?? It was one of the best Star Wars movie because it was for adults
I absolutely loved the movie. Tarkin didn't bother me at all, he served a purpose in the plot. I understand WHY they put Leia in (for people who were confused about when the movie takes place) but I didn't like it as a fan. I was pretty disappointed in Darth Vader and R2D2 and C3PO being in the film. Vader was underwhelming. His voice hasn't aged well and he didn't come across as threatening as he should, plus he really didn't add anything to the plot. Oh, and Cornelius and the BallChinian dude from a new hope showing up was pretty fucking stupid. Other than that, fantastic movie! The blind guy was my favorite. Absolutely bad ass!!
Ur angry because of Easter eggs and the the best villain of all time Smh
I don't think we as an audience really need a lot of backstory on the characters to begin with because most people saw it coming that they would all die at the end. Why else would none of them ever pop up in the original trilogy? We got to see their humanity, and willingness to fight for what they believed in. Too much backstory would have really slowed the movie down.
Mack Long I point to an older war movie, The Dirty Dozen, as an example of doing characterization in a suicide mission film better. You learn more about more of the characters in that movie than most of the cast of Rogue One, and at the end of that movie most of them died as well. The difference was less action sequences; this film suffered the same flaw as Ep 7 as there was too much action and not enough character and personality.
I liked that this focused more on the rebellion than the characters. It fits with the whole cause being more important than the individual motif. While in the dirty dozen it was the character interactions/development that really drove the movie. R1 gave us just enough to care about the characters, but not enough to feel devastated by their inevitable deaths, which is fine by me.
drifterd2009 my thoughts exactly,,,the event is what's important here.
eventhough each of character didn't have enough backstory, their action and sacrifice is enough to make me sympathize them
Darth Vader wouldn't want to fight on the beach. He hates sand
Brendon Chen yea cause it's coarse ......... and it gets everywhere ........... not soft like Padme lolololol hahaha
Well now he lives in a castle in Mordor
I do not have a strong oppinion on the rest of the stuff Chris said in the review, but the comments like: Aah, yeah, that looks like it has been re-shooted... First, and especially when Chris talked about Vader scene, how on earth can a person know if that was re-shooted if we do not have the original scene available. And second of all, why is re-shooting a scene such a big deal in this review? That is where I mostly have problem with the review...
In fact I actually liked Tarkin turning around and seeing his full face. Was not distracting to me at all. You only knew it was CG because you know Cushing is dead. If you didn't you wouldn't know it was CG.
I did not even know the guy was dead. I was like holly shit... And how did they do the voice dammit?
myfavoritescenes exactly my point to people putting down the CG. Most people who did not know that Peter Cushing is dead will think it's the real actor. Those that know Peter Cushing is dead look at it in a biased way because they know that it can't be possible because he is dead so it must be CG and then that opens themselves to see the imperfections.
WhirlOmar The 3D seemed pretty obvious to me with Tarkin. Could immediately tell and could tell throughout. It was pretty annoying. And no, it's not that we knew they couldn't get the actor. It's the way 3d is animated and rendered.
CGI look very convincing. Not as the real human being of course, but close to it.
TheAtomicMango I hear you but I still feel it was very convincing !
Preferred this to The Force Awakens, the battle on Scarif alone makes this way more enjoyable.
rockinchimp In my opinion the force awakens was ATROCIOUS
Bananabing Bing Along with The Last Jedi.
During my first viewing I was trying to figure out if Tarkin was recast or had cgi enhancements. I honestly couldnt tell.
DannyDankTv Probably a mix of both. I just saw the film and hour ago and amazed at how well they pulled it off. Same with Leia.
Alex Chavez
I was very surprised how well everything ties in. People complain about not having the opening crawl and Im rewatching Ep 4 now and the crawl basically describes the events of Rogue One.
DannyDankTv Exactly, it's better that it differentiated itself from the Trilogy and that ending scene leads Into a New Hope so well. Honestly one of my favorite Star Wars after Empire.
I had a hard time deciding that too. You can see they're really close to perfect the technique.
I dont get why chris has problems with the cgi characters. I honestly had a hard time identifying them as cg
"Good luck little sister" that quote got me too ! it just shows how the cause united them
The reason why the AT-AT's were easier to take down is because they aren't AT-AT's.
They're AT-ACT's which are much more vulnerable because they are NOT designed for combat.
Damn straight! The All Terrain Armoured Transports in Empire were clearly just that - armoured. (Yes I'm Australian and I use "u" in armoured!)
You have to remember that most people watching this don't know anything about the EU and get all their info from the movies.
Fizzleclaw I just assumed after this battle they designed them to be stronger, so it was a subtle reference to empire strikes back
They did hit walker with portable rocket and it didn't really mind, which implicates these aren't some tinfoil plated barrows. I assume that starfighters wield some serious firepower unlike airspeeders.
I feel sorry for Chris, he's so critical he sort of ruins the movie for himself
While I agree the CGI looked amazing, I see where he's coming from with thinking of the future. I'm sure it will look outdated eventually and it might take away from the movie.
28RLiMod yeah I guess but I feel like if you are someone who didn't know he was gonna be CGI then you wouldn't have noticed
Josh MacKenzie Yeah I didn't realize at first but then I remember the original actor died.
28RLiMod yeah same didn't even think above yet it but afterwards thought "The new hope was 40 years ago he obviously wouldn't look like that now" and then found out he was dead
MeltD0wner yeah I get he's a critic but sometimes he can be overly critical, it must suck for him because he notices every little flaw and ruins the experience
Just a little info: The walking-thingies (who got this reference?) in Rouge One are not AT-ATs. They are AT SC Ts (or something like that) and they're meant to transport containers on the planet. Later they got ordered to help the empire in this scene. Thats why one of them has a big whole in its body (if you spotted it). Thats for transporting containers.
Bruce Wayne yea
The AT-ACT is also significantly less armoured than AT-AT's. It's also worth noting that Snowspeeders have far inferior blast-power compared to the X-Wing. Hence to explain the (that armour is too strong for blasters complaint).
Bruce Wayne unfortunately most viewers are not as educated on this as you or me, and can't tell the immediate diate differences between the two at models.
Bruce Wayne I did spot that, felt very believable to me
I understood that reference!
One of my favorite Star Wars movies, just a few points.
- Took me 2 viewings to grasp the plot and characters
- Could have a bit more backstory with the characters. I love them, but I don’t really *know* them
- Tarkin was fine. Just don’t stare too deeply into his soul
- Leia’s story of being on a political visit just became the peak on cinematic humor
It does make her lie to Vader all the more amazing.
“...On a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.”
“I literally just saw this ship above Scarif a few hours ago.”
Vader wouldn't fight on the beach because he hate sa.... oh crap, I'm not original...
_slow clap_
Yeah about that
My most favorite Star Wars movie so far... I am serious...
Right up there with Empire for me.
I left the theater and said to my friends "That was the best Star Wars movie I've seen in my life." They thought I was a little crazy.
Gabriel Atom me too
Agreed, it was even better than Empire.
It was not my favorite but it definitely has the best ending in any Star Wars movie, but that's just my opinion.
It might be just me but I felt more sad when K-2SO died more than Han Solo.
Kaname Tōsen He's BB8!!!!??
Kaname Tōsen Wrong. The base was destroyed where he died. No way it's possible.
When Han and Kylo were on that bridge, I knew what was gonna happen and for the next few min I was having an anxiety attack! :(
The Scarecrow Thats because this movie is so much better. It's completely the directors fault that Han Solo's death was basically swept past and not given the proper gravity.
The Scarecrow I felt the same. I think mostly because I was expecting the Han Solo thing for quite a few minutes before his death. Also, I think for a lot of people the funny droid tends to be more of a lovable character than the "handsome roguish" male character. Maybe not, that's just my take on it
First of all they’re not AT ATs they’re a weaker version that were essentially prototypes used by the empire in a battle they felt was unimportant and a good opportunity to test them. They’re called AT ACTs and they’re armor is in fact weaker and was improved by the empire by the time episode V rolls around. Also x wings are equipped with proton torpedoes which you can clearly see them using on scariff. Snowspeeders are not and are equipped with ion canons which are much weaker. Hope that explains your complaint.
You really live up to your username
I think it was pretty obvious that these were not the at ats we know from empire. They had different shaped cockpits and cargo space in the middle.
Alexander Schulze yes
When Cassian opens his eyes as the blast hits them I always had a feeling it was hime like "OH SHIT HERE IT IS!" Then bam, gone. I actually thought that made sense.
To me, it was a kick while I was down. His death was gruesome and so he doesn’t feel comforted in his last seconds, just horrified at his fate. I really felt that.
Yeah i totally disagree with stuckman. I saw it as a sign of terror
Absolutely correct
I think Chris misread the point of the eye opening
He realised his fate was upon them and there was nothing he could do, so take one last look
Thanks, for this interpretation. That makes a ton of sense. I never thought cassian opening his eyes when the blast hit him was a bad thing but what Chris says about that scene always felt wrong note but I still couldn’t figure out why nor how to describe it. Again thank you for that.
What are we, some kinda Suicide Rebels?
Stuntin.2.Star BEST COMMENT EVER
Stuntin.2.Star you deserve an award
someone needs to edit the part when they say "we are rogue..." with will smit saying that PLS!
Stuntin.2.Star I would love this to be the tag line for the movie
Damn that ending hits you hard due to recent events
6 years later and Rogue One is still Disney's best Star Wars movie and it even gave us an even better series with Andor.
edit: also please watch Andor, Chris.
They were AT-ACTs not AT-ATs, and they were taken down by side fire from the U-Wing by Bistan the space monkey not X-Wing fighters 🤓
Omar Correa Up you go :)
Omar Correa thank you
I'm pretty sure the first AT-ACT to go down (right after Maze hits it with the RPG) was taken out by an X-Wing.
Omar Correa Second two were taken down by Blue Squadron. Reason being is because they aren't made for battle. Their armor is weak and they're used to transport cargo.
I knew it was CGI, but I thought Tarkin was incredibly well done. Can't understand the complaints there.
I agree, I was blown away at how good he looked. I could tell he was CGI, but a few of my friends had no idea until I actually pointed it out to them after the film.
Maxificent wait he was cgi?!!!
I absolutely agree with this review, but I don't mind that Vader wasn't so much in the film.
Josh S Short and liquid gold
Mads D I agree. I didn't mind it at all. Like this is Rogue One... no one ever said it was a Darth Vader movie. I don't understand why everyone is freaking out that he's hardly ever in the movie.
Mads D At least it wasn't like the advertising of Suicide Squad that made it seem like The Joker was the nucleus of the film. But now when advertising Rogue One, they hardly revealed Darth Vader and they're mad that he was hardly in it. People just can't make up their minds what they want.
Mads D I wish he killed at least one of the main characters
Me either. Vader was the icing on the cake. The movie wasn't supposed to be about Vader it was about the rebels who stole the plans to the death star.
Is it so strange that she had a Stormtrooper doll?
I had military and police toys when I was a kid.
Though my father was against the state
My main gripe was the cast not feeling fleshed out enough. With Diego Luna's tiny rant, they could have swapped out the 'I was six' stuff to have him looking at a hologram of him and his parents from when he was younger while he thinks Jyn isn't looking - show, don't tell. It also bugged me a fair bit that there was no proper explanation for Bodhi swapping sides and working with Galen. You don't need massive amounts of backstory, just snippets that make them more real. More than anything though, I was really disappointed that it didn't feel like there crew became a proper unified group - the monks moved on their own, Bodhi was mostly a hanger-on and way in, etc. I'd gone in expecting them to be a real team that grows closer together, but even that last act where they were presumably meant to become a real team, the rebels seemed to be getting in the way and diluting the crew's supposed togetherness. I don't know, just felt very disappointed by the character interactions and lack of fleshing out. I'd thought Chris was unreasonable in the spoiler-free but I'm with him having seen it now.
Agree completely. Characters and their relationships and chemistry was the weak point of the film to me. Everything else was great though.
So it's unanimous, then!
"Show, don't tell." Yes, and Spielberg should've shown an entire flashback of Quint's USS Indianapolis story as well. Because dialogue is automatically inferior to visuals. **smh**
let's make an entire movie about Diego Luna's character and what happen to his family!!
deer r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r ewer r r rp
i have a feeling a lot was cut out. cause the heavy armor dude calls jyn little sister but thet literally never talked to each other in the whole movie
she had a storm trooper doll because she and her family lived in a imperial facility. The imperial toy store has no rebel scum. Only troopers, vader and the glorious Emperor figure.
hahah might be
Daniel I don't think they would have a Vader figure considering most people in the galaxy didn't know about Vader and only heard stories
Derek Hearne than it must be a rare collectible
i disagree with you on the cg tarkin the 3 people i went with didn't even know
Eric Betteridge I didn't know. I just thought that was the same actor (I didn't know the actor had passed away)
Same, I was thinking that he aged super well ! Like Ian McDermid did, when he did the prequels
Eric Betteridge I knew Tarkin and Leia were CGI, and I didn't even know who Tarkin was.
im pretty sure if chris didnt know the actor died (highly unlikely) he would not have noticed
Michael Brown i didn't know the actor had died and i noticed... it is incredibly obvious and completely noticeable from the first moment.
Having watched the movie 4 times by now I can honestly say that the CG Tarkin works much better than it initially did. The first time it was just the surprise of him being there, even though you knew he couldn't be. He was under extra scrutiny. But when you know what to expect you can watch those scenes naturally just like any other character scene. Watching it this way the CG Tarkin totally holds up.