I love these guys saying "that's not a Cedh card!" When they, above any other magic players should understand: "if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid"
Hey Seth, there is most definitely a almost 6k word primer hahah :D But in all seriousness thanks for showing off Winota on the channel :) Hope you enjoyed piloting it
Wait... I’m in the intros and I’m hearing talk of an abacus being used for its intended purpose and not to be shaken angrily, they truly are playing cedh
@@T_Peazy normally not worth it in the godo list bc the pieces for the combo are really hard to fetch up in mono red and dualcaster mage alone isn't quite as good as it looks. But it is a cool backup combo in some decks!
@@T_Peazy yeah totally makes sense, but godo really wants a good plan A, so there's a real opportunity to cost to running things that dont directly contribute to getting Godo out and getting the helm on. That's the strength of having a zero card combo (meaning your only real piece is in the command zone), because in every game you have access to Godo, it tends to be more efficient to put in disruption and interaction to get through pieces stopping you instead of trying to go around it with another combo. This is especially the case in mono red bc after gamble your tutor quality really tanks, you can run back up combos in a black or green deck because of the tutor density, but tends to be a trap in mono r
@@tzuted But I would think that's kinda the point. Godo is in the command zone. So you don't need that many pieces to make the deck work. So its maybe 30 cards at most that make your ramp into godo plan work and then a bunch of backups?
@Tomer, you actually have a turn 3 win here. City of Traitors on turn 2, cast hammer from hand. Then turn three tap the city for mana, exile the simion, make your land drop and that's 6 mana. Get the helm, auto equip and you win.
It was great seeing you guys having fun playing cEDH. These occasional games are always a treat. PS: Love the Play to Win shirt Tomer! They're a fun cEDH channel.
remember that episode on commander clash podcast about power levels. On of the points was that even if your deck is a tier 1 cEDH deck, if you can't pilot it well it automatically drops? This episode is a perfect example of that. That or Tomer is gathering clips for commander punts series
Hey seth, Snoop let's you play goblins from the top of your library. So as long as you have 3 red mana you can cast Snoop, cast Torch currier from the top of your library, sac it to give Snoop haste and then Kiki combo.
As a Godo CEDH player, watching Tomer pilot Godo was extremely painful. Possibly even worse was watching the rest of the table comment on "joke" cards in the list. If only you knew....
To be fair Good does play a lot of "joke" cEDH cards but yeah, everytime they laughed at a card I was like if only they knew. Also there was nothing he could do in first game because of magistrate and magus.
One thing I can say is after watching The Spike Feeders and Play to Win TH-cam channels, you guys need to NOT be afraid to mull to 5 to sculpt better hands. Competitive EDH is predicated on speed, interaction, and strong focus on your win conditions, meaning that a STRONG 5 card hand beats a mediocre 7 card hand every game.
I mean they don't know how their decks work anyways. Like Seth had the win with Snoop combo the turn after he played recruiter, but he just has no clue how to stack them properly.
@@keep7smiling I've said this about content creators who play other people's decks, in general. I think it's embarrassing to 'wing it' and 'figure it out' when certain combo decks are definitely Rube Goldberg machines that require a lot of finesse. As Crim kept joking, read the primer. To be fair, do we expect much else from the Goldfish gang?
Super fun gameplay footage. One of the most fun I've seen in a while. Really loved the fresh, casual-y perspective and usage of CEDH staples. I could see this being a regular format, due to the short length of the matches and exciting high power level cards.
1:42:30 Crim has a setup to win next turn: wishclaw for demonic consultation, neoform elves of deep shadow to get thassa's oracle, respond to oracle trigger with consultation, exile deck and win. 1:42:34 Crim activates necropotence 8 times. 1:43:52 ... Crim chooses to discard neoform. 1:44:00 ... Crim discards neoform. 1:44:07 necropotence exiles neoform. 1:45:35 Crim counters a wheel that could have drawn him into the combo. 1:49:56 Crim brainstorms into demonic consultation, never didn't have it.
@tomer, heat shimmer, panharmonicon and the likes are to get 2 equipments with godo. Hammer of nazahn and helm to equip for free. Its just cheaper than actual equiping and a lot harder to interract with
@12:22 thats why you always gamble for life from the loam, you can only win that way :D Either you discard a land and reclaim it with the loam, or you discard the loam and dredge it in the next turn :p
Misplays aside, do stax decks not perform well to control the field in CEDH? Richard had an odd wincon, but most of the time the wincon doesn't matter quite as much as properly locking up the board and identifying which targets to take out first.
@@josephhawkins7974 They do. The problem was mostly tutoring for the wrong cards and not seeing deck interactions. Which mostly boils down to unfamiliarity with the format and decks. From the viewpoint of an avid CEDH player it's like watching someone play a video game and making a choice that ends up badly in the future.
Them chuckling at Tomer playing Panharmonicon is funny because that makes godo an instant win when he is cast lol. I feel like none of them have seen a godo deck
26:36 Wasn't there a much abrew about nothing / against the odds episode with a Trinisphere lock of some sort? I kinda remember something along those lines but can't actually recall the other cards :(
After that first game, I can 100% confirm I'm so happy my playgroup and myself don't like cEDH! What a disgusting board most likely I would've been a bit too salty :D
that tomer saw tibalt's trickery and could even fathom that that card is a counter spell really shows how it was used instead of what it was intended to do. i think its actually amazing i non blue but red cedh decks. singleton even with tutors makes that card to a hard counter most times.
Richard is not playing Bird tribal. This is not natural, and no good will come of it. I can only pray to the good Lord that Wizards design for, and encourage the cEDH community to work as a team on, Jank Tribal lethality. Speaking as a true cEDH player at heart I can only ask, as recommended in the Vod 'What are these Guys playing at'? :)
I also didn’t realize Drannith Magistrate prevent commanders from being cast. There’s a foil just sitting in my binder and I can’t wait to annoy my friends.
Seth could win with the combo on his following turn., on his upkeep, he just copies the snoop infinitely and then the recruiter to win before he has to draw.
@@warpgamer9055 That's true, but it's so rare to see 2 or more players not running Blue/Black at most cEDH tables because the amount of interaction most players like to counter combos. But given that two players were going to stax builds, the games were slower than your typical Gitrog/Food Chain combos.
Tomer could have tried to won turn 3 game 2. Turn 2 play city of traitors into hammer. Turn 3 float 4 mana play mountain Exile guide play for 6 play godo get helm it auto equips because of the hammer.
I've seen Tomer play and combo off with Godo more then once. Can't tell if he's legitimately forgotten this or if he's playing it up to seamless threatening.
This dowsing dagger of Richards is insane.....he gets it almost every game....there's some questions asto whether dowsing dagger is good and it is better than people seem to think, when paired with evasion it is an exceedingly powerful edh card for the long game
I’ve never played Snoop or cEDH, but off-hand I think Seth’s Recruiter pile (from top to bottom) at 1:06:00 should have been Snoop, Skirk Prospector, Torch Courier, Kiki-Jiki, Mogg Fanatic. Draw and play Snoop. Play Needleverge Pathway instead of Plains. Cast Prospector from the top. Sac Recruiter for red to play Courier from the top. Sac courier to give Snoop haste. Kiki-Jiki is now on top. Proceed to make at least (sum of opponents’ life totals + 5) copies of Snoop. Sacrifice 5 copies to play Kiki-Jiki from the top. Mogg Fanatic is now on top. Apply goblins to opponents’ faces, rinsing carefully afterwards.
I know it would take more time, but maybe next cedh week you could all try Richard's approach and build an original, cedh powerlevelled brew? That way you'll all have a good understanding of the deckbuilding choices and more pride at stake during the games :p
NICE SHIRT TOMER!!!
I sense some bias here...
Tomer and Crim: No Hand Cams on cEDH week.
Viewers: They probably could have won faster.
Lmfaoooo
I love these guys saying "that's not a Cedh card!" When they, above any other magic players should understand: "if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid"
Tomer playing against two stax decks. "Why would I play my mana crypt when the stax players haven't had turns yet?"
The Panharmonicon is there so you get 2 Godo Triggers, get Hammer of Nazahn before Helm and equip for free.
Hey Seth, there is most definitely a almost 6k word primer hahah :D
But in all seriousness thanks for showing off Winota on the channel :)
Hope you enjoyed piloting it
Wait... I’m in the intros and I’m hearing talk of an abacus being used for its intended purpose and not to be shaken angrily, they truly are playing cedh
Well they attempted to play cEDH for an hour at least; 1:13:32 would prove that plan eventually, as always, fell apart...
“Why does this cost more mana?”
“Trinisphere. Always Trinisphere.”
Seth is the best.
1:01:30 heat shimmer in godo is to cast on godo after original Godo fetches Hammer of Nazan and the token gets helm....
Also it goes infinite with Dualcaster Mage and any other creature.
@@T_Peazy normally not worth it in the godo list bc the pieces for the combo are really hard to fetch up in mono red and dualcaster mage alone isn't quite as good as it looks. But it is a cool backup combo in some decks!
@@tzuted I assumed it would run all the mono red A+B combos. Kiki/twin/conscripts. LED-breach-wheel. Dualcaster-heatshimmer/twinflame.
@@T_Peazy yeah totally makes sense, but godo really wants a good plan A, so there's a real opportunity to cost to running things that dont directly contribute to getting Godo out and getting the helm on. That's the strength of having a zero card combo (meaning your only real piece is in the command zone), because in every game you have access to Godo, it tends to be more efficient to put in disruption and interaction to get through pieces stopping you instead of trying to go around it with another combo. This is especially the case in mono red bc after gamble your tutor quality really tanks, you can run back up combos in a black or green deck because of the tutor density, but tends to be a trap in mono r
@@tzuted But I would think that's kinda the point. Godo is in the command zone. So you don't need that many pieces to make the deck work. So its maybe 30 cards at most that make your ramp into godo plan work and then a bunch of backups?
Tomer: The goal is to not take just one player out of the game.
Crim: Lowkey camera smirk
Richard looks frustrated trying to explain Snoop piles to Seth and then Seth still thinks he has play the haste guy first and wait a turn lol
1:01:32.
Heat shimmer on Godo. First godo gets the hammer of Nazan, second Godo gets the helm. Free equip on helm. Takes your win number from 11 to 9.
Same reason panharmonicon is in the deck.
panharmonicon at 4, Godo at 6, win off the two godo triggers.
@Tomer, you actually have a turn 3 win here. City of Traitors on turn 2, cast hammer from hand. Then turn three tap the city for mana, exile the simion, make your land drop and that's 6 mana. Get the helm, auto equip and you win.
When you guys play CEDH again you should call the episode, "punt or bluff??????" Laughed very hard during this. Keep up the great work.
Tomer playing the simian spirit guide was gold
Richard is the Shaggy of the MTG Goldfish crew 😂
Feel like Seth should be Scooby.
He's operating at only 1% of his power
@@DavyMcWavy Velma could be Crim and Tomer could be Daphne 😂
It was great seeing you guys having fun playing cEDH. These occasional games are always a treat.
PS: Love the Play to Win shirt Tomer! They're a fun cEDH channel.
remember that episode on commander clash podcast about power levels. On of the points was that even if your deck is a tier 1 cEDH deck, if you can't pilot it well it automatically drops? This episode is a perfect example of that.
That or Tomer is gathering clips for commander punts series
Hey seth, Snoop let's you play goblins from the top of your library. So as long as you have 3 red mana you can cast Snoop, cast Torch currier from the top of your library, sac it to give Snoop haste and then Kiki combo.
Boros week was really good. Can't wait for cEDH week. :P
Lol that editor text at the beginning made me so nervous, tomer saying punt proof gives me anxiety
i couldnt even finish the video after that...had to look at the comments first to see if the prophecy came true lol.
Always look forward to Tomer on CEDH week, was not disappointed.
As a Godo CEDH player, watching Tomer pilot Godo was extremely painful. Possibly even worse was watching the rest of the table comment on "joke" cards in the list. If only you knew....
Yeah I was looking at panharmonicon and him getting to 6 mana, and was just like 'oh you sweet, sweet summer children'
I was thinking the same thing they kept talking bad about some of the best cards
To be fair Good does play a lot of "joke" cEDH cards but yeah, everytime they laughed at a card I was like if only they knew. Also there was nothing he could do in first game because of magistrate and magus.
Tomer plays so well he makes Tier 1 CEDH deck, notorious for fast and consistent wins look like solid 6.
I think 6 is generous lol
Richard winning every coin flip
Seth: "...and I took that personally"
Thank goodness
Richard 3m makes dry wall double sided tape for 99 cents for no damage
Whoo, my banana king Tasigur is finally featured.
That magistrate and Trinisfere were fucking mvps holy smoke. That remembers me when Richard came with a Ruric Tar deck during a cedh week. Glorious.
The arts
One thing I can say is after watching The Spike Feeders and Play to Win TH-cam channels, you guys need to NOT be afraid to mull to 5 to sculpt better hands. Competitive EDH is predicated on speed, interaction, and strong focus on your win conditions, meaning that a STRONG 5 card hand beats a mediocre 7 card hand every game.
I mean they don't know how their decks work anyways. Like Seth had the win with Snoop combo the turn after he played recruiter, but he just has no clue how to stack them properly.
@@keep7smiling I've said this about content creators who play other people's decks, in general. I think it's embarrassing to 'wing it' and 'figure it out' when certain combo decks are definitely Rube Goldberg machines that require a lot of finesse. As Crim kept joking, read the primer. To be fair, do we expect much else from the Goldfish gang?
@@Skywarp2099 nah, its embarrassing that you care.
Play to Win is an awesome channel
Richard: “We didn’t get any stax pieces”
Game 1: Trinisphere, winter orb, drannith magistrate, incidental magus value
Riiiiiiiiiiight
Honestly awesome games though
More cEDH content is always appreciated. Thank you so much for trying it out every once in a while.
This was so amazing and painful to watch all at the same time lol, I love it
Super fun gameplay footage. One of the most fun I've seen in a while. Really loved the fresh, casual-y perspective and usage of CEDH staples. I could see this being a regular format, due to the short length of the matches and exciting high power level cards.
This game proves that CEDH is a mindset.
I have to say, I've watched your videos for roughly a year now, and this one is by far my favourite, it was hilarious in so many ways!
These are my favourite videos each season.
Also Seth probably should have looked the snoop line up before stacking the courier on top ;)
Richard probably could have played birds again and would have been fine 😂
Talking about Richards wall is becoming a staple of this show.
nice
cEDH week, the gang plays boros
1:42:30 Crim has a setup to win next turn: wishclaw for demonic consultation, neoform elves of deep shadow to get thassa's oracle, respond to oracle trigger with consultation, exile deck and win.
1:42:34 Crim activates necropotence 8 times.
1:43:52 ... Crim chooses to discard neoform.
1:44:00 ... Crim discards neoform.
1:44:07 necropotence exiles neoform.
1:45:35 Crim counters a wheel that could have drawn him into the combo.
1:49:56 Crim brainstorms into demonic consultation, never didn't have it.
Richard takes down the playmats and reveals the wall insulation that they've been covering all along.
@tomer, heat shimmer, panharmonicon and the likes are to get 2 equipments with godo. Hammer of nazahn and helm to equip for free. Its just cheaper than actual equiping and a lot harder to interract with
Richard, I am so proud of you!
@12:22 thats why you always gamble for life from the loam, you can only win that way :D Either you discard a land and reclaim it with the loam, or you discard the loam and dredge it in the next turn :p
I have basically the same reactions as Crim whenever I pilot Tas as well 😂
The creeping smirk when Richard sees his game two hand.
Lol, Seth and Tomer judging the amount of card draw for Crim.
Richard could've just went Rograkh/Jeska for Cloudstone Curio loops if he wanted a CEDH Rograkh deck
That would have been a really cool deck.
Rograkh silas is the fastest deck in the format haha
My buddy just picked up most of the goodies for the Curio List.
Watching people get Jeska'd to death is sweet.
"just bolt the prelate, then you can cast your 1-mana spells!" - this episode in a nutshell.
Fun games, would love to see more CEDH!
so nice to see multiple games in one video
As a CEDH player this was the hardest thing to watch ever 💀
Misplays aside, do stax decks not perform well to control the field in CEDH? Richard had an odd wincon, but most of the time the wincon doesn't matter quite as much as properly locking up the board and identifying which targets to take out first.
@@josephhawkins7974 They do. The problem was mostly tutoring for the wrong cards and not seeing deck interactions. Which mostly boils down to unfamiliarity with the format and decks. From the viewpoint of an avid CEDH player it's like watching someone play a video game and making a choice that ends up badly in the future.
@@josephhawkins7974 TLDR; it hurt my soul 💀😂
This episode could be called waiting for Godo...xD
Them chuckling at Tomer playing Panharmonicon is funny because that makes godo an instant win when he is cast lol. I feel like none of them have seen a godo deck
Hilarious. Watching you guys play cedh is awesome
Tomer's hatred of Hedron Archive gives me life.
26:36 Wasn't there a much abrew about nothing / against the odds episode with a Trinisphere lock of some sort? I kinda remember something along those lines but can't actually recall the other cards :(
After that first game, I can 100% confirm I'm so happy my playgroup and myself don't like cEDH! What a disgusting board most likely I would've been a bit too salty :D
1:40:00. Yessss. That was worth the whole stream!
that tomer saw tibalt's trickery and could even fathom that that card is a counter spell really shows how it was used instead of what it was intended to do. i think its actually amazing i non blue but red cedh decks. singleton even with tutors makes that card to a hard counter most times.
Seems good yeah.
Seth: you win the turn after you play the goblin recruiter, if you stack the cards correctly.
one thing i liked a lot about this cedh episode was you got to jam 3 games in one session!! and im a sucker for stax / death and taxes.. more please!
Love you guys in cEdh. Plot twist, commander clash has me interested in cEDH xD
Richard is not playing Bird tribal. This is not natural, and no good will come of it. I can only pray to the good Lord that Wizards design for, and encourage the cEDH community to work as a team on, Jank Tribal lethality.
Speaking as a true cEDH player at heart I can only ask, as recommended in the Vod 'What are these Guys playing at'? :)
I'm saying it now, Simian Spirit guide hardcast is the new greatest moment in MTGGoldfish Commander
41:38 seth's face! Hahahaha! Winter orb will do that to ya.
I'm not even 20min in but I'm laughing so much I need a break... This was amazing
It's always, "what's your decks power level??" and not "what's your power level??"
This was really fun to watch :D
Definitely my new favorite episode of commander clash, this episode was amazing😂😂
That Tibalt's Trickery made me insanely happy.
I also didn’t realize Drannith Magistrate prevent commanders from being cast. There’s a foil just sitting in my binder and I can’t wait to annoy my friends.
Definitely is painful seeing you guys play cedh but I laughed a lot, so keep it up with the great content I really enjoy it.
How do you guys not have pens at your desks!?
Is that the mythical Crim beard? Looking good
wow Tomer really stuck with the count to 10
xD
also i feel like after G2 Goblin Recruiter ppl went a little bit of the rails
Okay I need too see this Bird deck of Richards that has been mentioned a million times. Where can I find it`?
Seth could win with the combo on his following turn., on his upkeep, he just copies the snoop infinitely and then the recruiter to win before he has to draw.
In the last game. Teferis protection doesn't work ?
When tomer was like to we are playing competitive edh also know as a punt feast
When he said can't punt because he can count to 10, but Godo is actually an 11 mana combo :P
What did you just say?
love the play 2 win swag tomer!
Not gonna lie, abacus asmr makes me smile every time.
I love it when you guys try cEDH! I dabble with it often
You can tell the Command Clash crew don't play much cEDH by the lack of Blue in the pod.
I mean they do say that and there are a lot of non blue cedh decks. Gitrog, bloodpod, korvold and so on
@@warpgamer9055 That's true, but it's so rare to see 2 or more players not running Blue/Black at most cEDH tables because the amount of interaction most players like to counter combos. But given that two players were going to stax builds, the games were slower than your typical Gitrog/Food Chain combos.
Presumably the Panharmonicon is in the Godo deck so you can free equip the Helm with Hammer of Nazahn, making the win a few turns faster?
Richards starting hand game one is just THE nuts
2 hour CEDH vod you say!
cedh decks losing to the "fair" deck at the table is an old classic of the format
Not having many wrath's is why it's a true stereotype
@@kingfuzzy2 exactly
Not gonna that was the best Tibalt's trickery I've ever seen!
That is just a sweet shirt, Crim. And it's totally something I'd wear. Where did you find it?
Tomer could have tried to won turn 3 game 2. Turn 2 play city of traitors into hammer. Turn 3 float 4 mana play mountain Exile guide play for 6 play godo get helm it auto equips because of the hammer.
I've seen Tomer play and combo off with Godo more then once. Can't tell if he's legitimately forgotten this or if he's playing it up to seamless threatening.
The Tibalt's Trickery play was hilarious. 10/10
I'd like to see another take on cEDH with maybe some more traditional and 'meta' decks.
What do we need to do for a tour of Richard’s garage to see all the product?
Have you guys done a french commander rules game?
"Its punt proof"
*already set himself up for a punt*
Lmao
The mono-red deck locked out(of winning) by the blood moon is soo hilarious
where is the rot wolf - hidden info meme from? I am very curious.
It's a very old Commander Clash meme. When someone forgets to record something we replace it with Rot Wolf.
I would love to hear the story behind!
This dowsing dagger of Richards is insane.....he gets it almost every game....there's some questions asto whether dowsing dagger is good and it is better than people seem to think, when paired with evasion it is an exceedingly powerful edh card for the long game
I’ve never played Snoop or cEDH, but off-hand I think Seth’s Recruiter pile (from top to bottom) at 1:06:00 should have been Snoop, Skirk Prospector, Torch Courier, Kiki-Jiki, Mogg Fanatic. Draw and play Snoop. Play Needleverge Pathway instead of Plains. Cast Prospector from the top. Sac Recruiter for red to play Courier from the top. Sac courier to give Snoop haste. Kiki-Jiki is now on top. Proceed to make at least (sum of opponents’ life totals + 5) copies of Snoop. Sacrifice 5 copies to play Kiki-Jiki from the top. Mogg Fanatic is now on top. Apply goblins to opponents’ faces, rinsing carefully afterwards.
I know it would take more time, but maybe next cedh week you could all try Richard's approach and build an original, cedh powerlevelled brew? That way you'll all have a good understanding of the deckbuilding choices and more pride at stake during the games :p