Thanks Jimmy and Andrew! It looks like a cheaper, less capable Extreme Bull. The few I know that own the Extreme Bull never ride it anymore. On a side note, I have seen even more hyper scooter enthusiasts (50MPH+ scooters) convert to EUC. Once they learned how to ride an EUC they never went back. Already selling their Lacroix e-skates and Dualtrons. I talked to a couple of them last night on our night ride through San Francisco. They still enjoyed the high speed of the hyper scooters but 30-40MPH on an EUC is a lot more engaging and fun than a 50-60MPH huge hyper scooter. Ultra portable commute scooters (E-Twow Gt, and Inokim Light 2) still fulfill a great niche but hyper scooters just aren't worth the bulk. I think you should ride an e-motorcycle or Onyx-level bike if you already lost most of the portable aspect with the big scooters.
I think there is a good market for folks who like to go fast, use their hands and don’t want to license/register/insure a motorcycle… for them, we have hyper scooters!
Not all go that way. Me- i started out in euc's. I bought 3 overall. I got a low speed scooter after my second wheel, then a big power scooter. I just got a high powered ebike. Overall, the nimbleness and portability i lose going from euc's- i gain comfort, stability, and road presence. It's definitely a more pleasurable ride going 45 on a bike. It's just a pain to maintain and load! 😅😅😅😅
The big heavy bulky power scooters arent "hyper scooters" to my mind. That name belongs to Rion et al. 30-35kg, 80+mph. This is why i wont go bigger than my Dualtron Victor. This is why i recommend the Blade X Pro (or the Victor) over the Blade GT, Vsett 10+ etc. So much more compact, easier to carry etc, and still can hit 50mph.
That down low 6 digit keypad power on looks so fun. If they had made it a 12 digit code and placed it somewhere even more awkward it could have doubled (maybe tripled) the fun but you can't have everything I guess...🙃
I modified my laotie ti-30 scooter to have really short stem, and then I used a milk crate as a seat and ratchet strapped it down. It's amazing how fun that can be when you're down low like that
The code system is a huge convenience con, and the unstable standing steering will put a lot of buyers off. It's probably just better to get a scooter with a seat option and adjustable stem height.
im not into the gimmicky stuff but i gotta say, those pegs for the feet are an amazing inovation. so simple yet game changing. no more looking like a stiff office worker with those aftermarket seating positions. people not liking the pegs where they are, i thing its absolute perfect ergonomics and another plus is by having the feet in such a position, it gives a whole new riding experience.
Love it, but: - The code system is a drag - Foot pegs need better positioning, perhaps on the frame, attached to the steering tube. - rake/trail for stability -13+" wheels, bigger motors. I do understand why they put a smaller motor in the front than the back - the weight distribution gives the real wheel way traction. If the motors were the same (650W/650W), the power application would be less efficient.
The stability issues are caused by the fact that it has negative trail. They should've done some basic research on the geometry of two-wheeled vehicles before they designed something like this.
Alright Jimmy Chang, give it to me straight. I been wracking my brain for the past 3 weeks on what escooter to get in the $2000 range (give or take a couple hundo). Vsett10+ or Wolf Warrior X Pro? I go to university so I'd definitely be using this around campus, but I also wanna go off roading cuz I like fishing and I feel like a scooter would help with circling a lake while carrying gear. Do you feel like there will be redesigns/updates of these models in the near future?
For the price the are charging you ,I feel it it could have come with more power ,60v 1200 dual motors. The concept is awesome though. Perhaps bigger tires 13" would be fantastic
No wonder it's so unstable, look at this messed up geometry in the front end! The contact patch is WAY ahead of the steering axis, I can't believe they thought that would work out well.
Hey Jimmy & Andrew, can you guys do a guide about battery maintenance care and long term storage on winter conditions. Like is it bad to leave the battery in a cold environment etc...
I know I'm 2 years late but right now its only $1,000 bucks and I wanna get it but can't afford it. How do you change the tires if you live in New York?
i like the novelty aspect of it. It's funky :) The design of the smaller front to rear motor makes some sense re full power acceleration i guess.. split power so all the oompf is from the rear but with the front just helping a bit... less slip from the front maybe as a result of the lower power? It was a right hoot watching you guys try it out... definitely not for me !!! lol lol
I love the Concept a lot i think with some adjustments this could be FIRE! maybe smaller handlebar and the footrest on the scooter instead of the tires! ?
I decided I have to have an electric scooter. I’m 79yrs old so I probably don’t need a 60 mph one. I got caught up watching a video on the Swatch Transformer and ordered one. I’m starting to have 2nd thoughts. Any suggestions?
cool concept. it looks like it could use more comfortable front pegs ! Also riding in the seating position on US roads sounds like the easiest way to end up crushed under some lifted bro truck wheels. Also, leaning into turns is how you turn with 2 wheelers right? the faster you go the less angle you use on the steering. although steering is what allows you to control the leaning, so It sounds like steering is too sensitive/unstable?
That passcode stuff is such a waste of money unfortunately. My cheap scooter comes with a remote and 1 of it's features is fully kill electricity supply to scooter in such way that you can't turn it on and if you try to move it backwards it will not move, the motor will not allow the scooter to move backward. I opened the deck and that stuff is a small box. Easier and a lot cheaper then the pass code stuff. I got a seat that is overall sweet, but pain to have when carrying 4 times per day via elevators, overall I like this idea for this who might wanna do long rides when it's just a lot more comfortable to relax and sit down, I might have enjoyed this 1 :D
Front swingarm done wrong, very very wrong. The axle is so far ahead of the steering head axis, it's like a trolley wheel pointing the wrong way. I bet that's why it feels unstable.
More S20 content tnx and yeah I agree they are trying to do to many things at once.. and with time it may get better. also I think the different motors on front and back may cause power imbalance and earlier failures.
Bad call for Fiido. Not sure what they were thinking when they came up with this idea. They should stick with electric bikes. Thanks for the review guys!
@@chrisperrywv I've been chased off from so many university, business, and apartment parking lots I've lost count... churches are the best, empty lots most of the time and those church going people are so kind!
That's one cool looking..... Scooter..... Go-kart thingy. But it's funny as this video was to watch you guys try to ride that thing. It seems they've got to go back to the drawing board on a few things. That suspension is more likely a big part of the reason the vehicle feels so unstable. Because though that looks like suspension, it's really not doing the job you needed to do. And that thing definitely needs a steering dampener. I think the foot pegs look really cool when you're using them. I don't think that they allow for enough turning radius which could make him a bit dangerous with those 11-in wheels. The wheels need to be bigger. Big enough to where you can make a sharp turn and those pigs won't rub the floor.
I have no words for this scooter. It’s so dumb and impractical. The wolf king and dualtrons have seat posts so you can add a seat and comfortably ride while standing or sitting. I really hope no one is foolish enough to buy this 🤣
Sorry if this is offensive... But an Asian man claiming to be "pretty tall"... How tall is that exactly? I'm new here... Is he Asian? Hawaiian? Greenlandic?
Wow, they're gonna' sell at least two, maybe even three of these.
😂😂
Is that one two many?
That's a bit too optimistic! ✌️🤣
I love what Fiido is doing! The most creative in the pev game right now
Thinking outside the box for sure!
Thanks Jimmy and Andrew! It looks like a cheaper, less capable Extreme Bull. The few I know that own the Extreme Bull never ride it anymore. On a side note, I have seen even more hyper scooter enthusiasts (50MPH+ scooters) convert to EUC. Once they learned how to ride an EUC they never went back. Already selling their Lacroix e-skates and Dualtrons. I talked to a couple of them last night on our night ride through San Francisco. They still enjoyed the high speed of the hyper scooters but 30-40MPH on an EUC is a lot more engaging and fun than a 50-60MPH huge hyper scooter. Ultra portable commute scooters (E-Twow Gt, and Inokim Light 2) still fulfill a great niche but hyper scooters just aren't worth the bulk. I think you should ride an e-motorcycle or Onyx-level bike if you already lost most of the portable aspect with the big scooters.
I think there is a good market for folks who like to go fast, use their hands and don’t want to license/register/insure a motorcycle… for them, we have hyper scooters!
@@freshlycharged True dat!
Not all go that way.
Me- i started out in euc's. I bought 3 overall. I got a low speed scooter after my second wheel, then a big power scooter. I just got a high powered ebike.
Overall, the nimbleness and portability i lose going from euc's- i gain comfort, stability, and road presence.
It's definitely a more pleasurable ride going 45 on a bike.
It's just a pain to maintain and load! 😅😅😅😅
@@mig6220 That is awesome! I still enjoy my Dualtron Compact and came from commuter scooters so I can definitely appreciate them. Have fun!
The big heavy bulky power scooters arent "hyper scooters" to my mind. That name belongs to Rion et al. 30-35kg, 80+mph.
This is why i wont go bigger than my Dualtron Victor.
This is why i recommend the Blade X Pro (or the Victor) over the Blade GT, Vsett 10+ etc. So much more compact, easier to carry etc, and still can hit 50mph.
*One of the most* interesting concept Electric Scooter I’ve ever seen on TH-cam! 😂😭☝️
That down low 6 digit keypad power on looks so fun.
If they had made it a 12 digit code and placed it somewhere even more awkward it could have doubled (maybe tripled) the fun but you can't have everything I guess...🙃
It’s a pain, not gonna lie.
@@freshlychargedfr
What makes this scooter great is the fact that it's so unique!
100%
I modified my laotie ti-30 scooter to have really short stem, and then I used a milk crate as a seat and ratchet strapped it down. It's amazing how fun that can be when you're down low like that
What an invention, Max!
The code system is a huge convenience con, and the unstable standing steering will put a lot of buyers off. It's probably just better to get a scooter with a seat option and adjustable stem height.
im not into the gimmicky stuff but i gotta say, those pegs for the feet are an amazing inovation. so simple yet game changing. no more looking like a stiff office worker with those aftermarket seating positions.
people not liking the pegs where they are, i thing its absolute perfect ergonomics and another plus is by having the feet in such a position, it gives a whole new riding experience.
Does anybody konw what type the plug of battery charger for This scooter Fiido beast?
Love it, but:
- The code system is a drag
- Foot pegs need better positioning, perhaps on the frame, attached to the steering tube.
- rake/trail for stability
-13+" wheels, bigger motors.
I do understand why they put a smaller motor in the front than the back - the weight distribution gives the real wheel way traction. If the motors were the same (650W/650W), the power application would be less efficient.
The stability issues are caused by the fact that it has negative trail. They should've done some basic research on the geometry of two-wheeled vehicles before they designed something like this.
You are 100% about the negative trail.
Alright Jimmy Chang, give it to me straight.
I been wracking my brain for the past 3 weeks on what escooter to get in the $2000 range (give or take a couple hundo).
Vsett10+ or Wolf Warrior X Pro?
I go to university so I'd definitely be using this around campus, but I also wanna go off roading cuz I like fishing and I feel like a scooter would help with circling a lake while carrying gear.
Do you feel like there will be redesigns/updates of these models in the near future?
For the price the are charging you ,I feel it it could have come with more power ,60v 1200 dual motors.
The concept is awesome though. Perhaps bigger tires 13" would be fantastic
If it had that and better steering geometry, I'd buy one today.
No wonder it's so unstable, look at this messed up geometry in the front end! The contact patch is WAY ahead of the steering axis, I can't believe they thought that would work out well.
I think that’s the reason for some of the twitchy feeling at slow speeds.
Gives me onewheel go kart chair vibes
Agree!
Hey Jimmy & Andrew, can you guys do a guide about battery maintenance care and long term storage on winter conditions.
Like is it bad to leave the battery in a cold environment etc...
Options are good. I've always liked options and hopefully they ironed us out with 15-in wheels dual motors and do it smart.
Can you guys check out Suru cycles and review? Also Ristretto ebike and one more the truvor ebike.
Wow were could I purchase one and if available in the Philippines
Something wonderful ! How fast is it?
I know I'm 2 years late but right now its only $1,000 bucks and I wanna get it but can't afford it. How do you change the tires if you live in New York?
i like the novelty aspect of it. It's funky :) The design of the smaller front to rear motor makes some sense re full power acceleration i guess.. split power so all the oompf is from the rear but with the front just helping a bit... less slip from the front maybe as a result of the lower power? It was a right hoot watching you guys try it out... definitely not for me !!! lol lol
What helmet y’all wearing?
Have you guys reviewed the Niu kqi3 pro?
I love the Concept a lot
i think with some adjustments this could be FIRE!
maybe smaller handlebar and the footrest on the scooter instead of the tires! ?
It's more like riding a cruiser motorcycle than a go-cart, I don't know why people think it's like a go-cart.
Go-carts have 4 wheels people.
I decided I have to have an electric scooter. I’m 79yrs old so I probably don’t need a 60 mph one. I got caught up watching a video on the Swatch Transformer and ordered one. I’m starting to have 2nd thoughts. Any suggestions?
Vset
Mantis
Dualtron
Blade
cool concept. it looks like it could use more comfortable front pegs !
Also riding in the seating position on US roads sounds like the easiest way to end up crushed under some lifted bro truck wheels.
Also, leaning into turns is how you turn with 2 wheelers right? the faster you go the less angle you use on the steering. although steering is what allows you to control the leaning, so It sounds like steering is too sensitive/unstable?
That passcode stuff is such a waste of money unfortunately. My cheap scooter comes with a remote and 1 of it's features is fully kill electricity supply to scooter in such way that you can't turn it on and if you try to move it backwards it will not move, the motor will not allow the scooter to move backward. I opened the deck and that stuff is a small box. Easier and a lot cheaper then the pass code stuff. I got a seat that is overall sweet, but pain to have when carrying 4 times per day via elevators, overall I like this idea for this who might wanna do long rides when it's just a lot more comfortable to relax and sit down, I might have enjoyed this 1 :D
I thought that code was to open a compartment box in the seat, that would have been awesome.
Peace be upon you. Can I ski with it in mountainous places? Thank you. I am a follower from Morocco
Front swingarm done wrong, very very wrong. The axle is so far ahead of the steering head axis, it's like a trolley wheel pointing the wrong way. I bet that's why it feels unstable.
I think you’re on to something!
How much for it?
Fantastic concept. One or two tweaks. A damper on the front wheel to stop the wobbles, and this could be a potentially be a very fun scooter.
Hopefully they take the constructive criticism and make this beast awesome!
Can a scooter be bought in Europe and what is the price....?
More S20 content tnx
and yeah I agree they are trying to do to many things at once.. and with time it may get better. also I think the different motors on front and back may cause power imbalance and earlier failures.
Currently editing!
It's got a Harley Davidson vibe to it. An electric bar hopper. Is it hard to reverse park. 😂
Every 14yr old will love it
Bad call for Fiido. Not sure what they were thinking when they came up with this idea. They should stick with electric bikes.
Thanks for the review guys!
The wolf king gt handlebars are 29 inches
Great review on just about the dumbest scooter I've ever seen. I wouldn't want that scooter at any price.
Not every innovation is going to be amazing. Case in point.
When riding on seating...u need to lean your body where you want to turn ..its like riding a harley they need to change tire ...
This scooter is definitely something I would wanna test ride but I would probably just buy the Road Runner instead to be honest.
Sitting down on this in city traffic = road kill
🐍Kaabo Wolf King GT is 750mm or 30 inches.🖖🤙
Go carts don't have handle bars people, and they have 4 wheels. If anything it's more like riding a cruiser motorcycle.
Wow ! good scooter !
If the passcode is on the handlebar and allows for 4 digits code then that'll be more convenient
Lets hope they come out with a 2nd generation that will actually work well 🤣.
It’s a process!
Are you at an LDS church?
where else am I gonna find an empty parking lot in the middle of the work day?
@@freshlycharged haha. Nice. You’ve got a point. Haha
@@chrisperrywv I've been chased off from so many university, business, and apartment parking lots I've lost count... churches are the best, empty lots most of the time and those church going people are so kind!
@@freshlycharged we try. 😉
@@chrisperrywv CTR
They should've put the foot rest on the deck.
So cool
That's one cool looking..... Scooter..... Go-kart thingy. But it's funny as this video was to watch you guys try to ride that thing. It seems they've got to go back to the drawing board on a few things. That suspension is more likely a big part of the reason the vehicle feels so unstable. Because though that looks like suspension, it's really not doing the job you needed to do. And that thing definitely needs a steering dampener. I think the foot pegs look really cool when you're using them. I don't think that they allow for enough turning radius which could make him a bit dangerous with those 11-in wheels. The wheels need to be bigger. Big enough to where you can make a sharp turn and those pigs won't rub the floor.
I would say it appears to built for one person. Not a fan. Good review though.
this thing looks surprisingly dangerous
We're wud I get these scooters
It's not a Dark Knight.
What IS a “sgerder”…?
PLs were, can I get one
😍😍🔥🔥
The seating position is way way too weird and low and looks cramped.
I like it
Great for Off in back yard to teach younger children how to handle. I have 6 acres.
Bouncy Bouncy 👦!!,,,,,hee hee!
Super cool E-bike O Super bike !!! coole , coole ! Dee . Jee . Peer !!!
Just get a milk crate to attach to a regular scooter
That thing is unique for sure I don't think I could ride that abomination
⚡👀👀⚡
THe steering in gokart mode is dumb
Круто!!!
I have no words for this scooter. It’s so dumb and impractical. The wolf king and dualtrons have seat posts so you can add a seat and comfortably ride while standing or sitting. I really hope no one is foolish enough to buy this 🤣
Nope.
Bahahaha.. concept is cool, but the build quality doesn't look reliable. He looks hilarious riding it
Sorry if this is offensive... But an Asian man claiming to be "pretty tall"... How tall is that exactly?
I'm new here... Is he Asian? Hawaiian? Greenlandic?
🌏HYBRİD
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
High price
Sh@t specs
Looks like kugo g3 which sells for 900€
Yeah, but you do get a unique concept model.
I was interested at first, but now, NOPE
Sorry that’s a big fat no !
NOPE 😬
Awful thing
I find it to be pretty lame and redundant
Wtf is this
Omg so cheap 😍 just £12.000 😶
According to their indiegogo page it's 12500 hkd, That's around 1600 usd or 1200 gbp.
@@ph33rmyl33tskillz thanks for explain 👍i guess i saw wrong 😅
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