SLICK TRICK SB, 125 gr Single Bevel Broadhead Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2024
- This is a test of the 125 gr Slick Trick SB, single bevel head.
Here is summary of my 2024 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/the scores of this head posted in parenthesis as well.
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 18 pts)
I'm using a Killer Instinct SWAT X1 crossbow, mounted to a BOG tripod, shooting a 670 gr Bishop Archery GOAT bolt (300 fps) at 30 yds. Field points consistently hit in the 10 ring & bullseye. I use the exact same bolt to shoot the broadhead. The only difference in the two shots is the broadhead's flight forgiveness vs that of the field point. A bullseye gets a score of 11/10, or a perfect score of 20 + 1 Bonus Point. The 10 ring gets a 10/10, or 20 points; a 9 ring gets a 9/10 or 18 points...& so forth, with each wider ring being 1/2" farther from the bullseye. Mechs are also given 1 Bonus Point for extra forgiveness.
2. Cut Size (20%, 9.68 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.125" = 3.15 points pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.125” = 3.15 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.125" = 3.38 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 18.43 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 135 grams = 10/10 = 9 pts) & Edge Retention (9%, +43 grams = 9.14/10 = 8.23 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF & 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (6/10=1.2 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 18.15 pts)
There are 2 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 10% of the score. (8.5" = 9.44 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 10% of the score.
( 61 layers= 8.71 pts)
5. Durability (20%, 17.45 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (10/10 = 12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (8.5/10 = 4.25 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (4/10 = 1.2pts).
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS:
+.65 pts sharpness greater than baseline
+.25 pts Modularity with 25 gr weight ring included
TOTAL SCORE: 82.61 pts = 8 Golden Arrows
Price: $26.67/head
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You're awesome! This channel should be watched by everyone who is researching broadheads!!
Thank you. I just want to provide some objective, consistent data points to help people make informed choices based on their hunting needs. I think that’s so much more effective than just asking a buddy or a few people at the boat shop reading the back of a package or even reading articles that have been paid for in magazines.
Great head, great test, thanks
Thanks for watching!
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
Yep
Very impressive.
Yep. Thanks
John, another informative video. Would you consider making a list of the heads you have tested and place each head on the list, giving the viewers an idea of where each head places respectively. Thanks again for the unbiased, realistic and entertaining content.
Thank you. I do that at the end of each year. I put an excel spreadsheet in the video description of the last vid of the year. You can see it for all of 2022 and 2023 in the one I posted in December 2023. I’ll do that again this year.
I've been considering sb heads for a while. I've hammered 3 boars over 200lbs in the last month in the dark using montec for 2 of em and 1 annihilator. Maybe I'll buy a pack of these to try. I just worry about resharpening. Great test as usual.
You may want check out Crimson talon Cleavers and Crocs as well. But these are really good heads.
I’m really looking forward to seeing the Magnus 150gn single bevel, however I’m glad to see SlickTrick getting into the 2 blade scene.. I’ve been a fan back when Gary was making them in a garage.
It's coming in several weeks.
Well made head . 👍
Yep
Yeah these look cool I seen them at Cabelas. I think the Ferrule on the 100-125 is T-6 aluminum and the heavier are steel
That’s correct. The 100 grain without the collar is aluminum. And you can add a 25 grain collar to it. Or you can get the all steel model that is 125 grains by itself. Then you can add a collar to make it 150.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures @scottm2244 is partially correct, the SB 100 and 125 have a T6 7075 ferrule and the SB 150 and 175 have a 17-4 stainless ferrule. all 4 SKUs (100, 125, 150 and 175) come with tungsten collars so you can adjust the total weight by 25gn, so the 100 can be increased to 125, the 125 can be increased to 150, etc. The blade geometry is the same on all 4 SKUs, but the 100 and 150gn heads have a vented blade where the 125 and 175 heads have a non vented blade. great review!
Thinking this one IS A WINNER! Yep, reckon so.
:)
You going to Oklahoma tac again? Might see you there! I told you about it last year and ended up not being able to make it but I'll for sure be there next weekend. Already got it all booked and ready to go.
I’d sure like to, but not sure I can make it this year.
Thats good broadhead
Yep
Worth noting…..Magnus now has very similar (same materials) single bevel for $25 less per pack.
Those are only 150gr though
I always list the price in the description. I am testing the Magnus in my next batch. I just started testing them now.
Just a warning, on slick trick's website it says both the 125 base and the 100 base are 7075 aluminum, gotta go to 150 for the 17-4 stainless option!
Well, you're missing one part. There are two models:
100 gr/125 gr--same head but the aluminum ferrule can add a 25 gr steel ring to get to 125 grs.
OR there is the 125 gr/150 gr model. The ferrule is steel and the head weighs 125 grs. If you add the collar, you boost it up to 150 grs.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thanks for the correction john!
I was surprised that it came apart on the cinder block.
Have you tried shooting any single bevels out of your crossbow? The ones that I have shot are like shooting a curve ball.
This one was shot out of the crossbow. It flew fine. But I shoot it at 300 ft./s, due to a heavy arrow.
I think...crimson talon at 1/3 the price for a better head
Or the new Magnus
Crimson Talon is incredible. I run the croc and I’ll use that for as long as they make em. The steel is solid and stays super sharp. My favorite head
@@bowdude33 I totally agree. The Croc is my choice of broad head. It's the best bang for your buck and with a lifetime warranty to boot.
@@novascotiapsearcher4497 the whole design is my picture perfect broadhead. Single bevel, super short profile, wide cut, no tanto tip, tool steel with incredible edge retention and impact resistance, 35 degree bevel, very sharp and for an unbelievable price. I really hope they make them for generations I’m going to stock up on them for sure I hope when I have kids they can use them too
@@novascotiapsearcher4497 can’t wait for John to test the new 100 grain croc 1.25 inch cut that’s what I’ll be using this year on mule deer in Colorado
Impressive
Thanks for watching
Pretty bad nock high flight in the cinber block video. Perhaps it would be fair to redo the test with tuned bow?
The bow is well tuned; sometimes the block is slightly angled and I can't tell. Or it hits a bigger chunk of rock and veers a bit. I don't have enough heads to ruin another one.
Would you still be able to use the 25gr collar with HIT inserts?
I don’t see why not.
I prefer 1 pc 2 blade heads like vpa or tuff head ect single bevel in all my trad bows and my compounds. And even slower cross bows sub 380 fps. Typically I run mechanical heads like sevr 150 2" rubusto or the 150 swat xbow mag. I prefer cross bows over all
Nice
Brazing it together might improve structural integrity
Yep
A lot to like with every test except rotation. IMO single bevel heads need at least 0.060'' thinkness and have a steep angle bevel to get good rotation. Without good rotation you might as well use a 3 or 4 blade head to achieve more cutting
It will definitely rotate much more in an animal. Some people prefer less rotation, as it allows for deeper penetration. But you make valid points, Frank.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Yeah gel is more sticky that flesh except of course in the areas of tendons, tallow etc but those are just part of anatomy that can't be tested without actual hunting. Even at 360 fps with a heavy crossbow arrow and at least 125gr head every animal I've shot (out to 60 yards) has been a complete pass through (arrow stuck in the ground) regardless of the head. From fast spinning Helix, expandables like NAP and Rage, Exodus, Slick Trick and the list goes on. This incudes dual shoulder shots. At 420+ fps those arrows stick very deeply in the ground after full penetration.
Would love to see the phobie from black widow innovations
Ok. Maybe someone will donate a pack
Looked like the flight was a bit off on the cinder block shot
It's a super heavy arrow and very close.
Have you ever tested the Kuiu single bevels?
Do you mean Kudu? Yes. If you ever wonder if I’ve tested a head just search on TH-cam: Lusk plus the name of that head :)
Hey just wanted to ask again if you were still interested in covering our broadheads as well?
What broadheads are those? I don't understand.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures It would be the Rexpid broadheads, if you have time next week me and my boss can get on call with you and we can go even further in detail.
there web site says the 100 and the 125 are t-6 aluminum not steel
The 100 & 125 combination are aluminum. The aluminum ferrule can add a collar to make it 125. But the 125 and 150 are a different model. They are all steel. Without the collar it is 125 and with the collar it is 150. Does that make sense?
I know they looked a lot like somebody's I couldn't remember I thought day 6 but now that I seen what a boy said Grizzly stick yes
Yep. And like the new Magnus, Crimson Talon Cleaver, and more. Apparently that original Maasai wasn’t copyrighted.
to bad its only right bevel all my stuff is left my fletch and the arrow comes off my string left as well
They may add a left model in the future. Crimson talon just came out with a left bevel single bevel Croc
Only in right bevel?
At this point
Hard to bbewt the crimson talon for the $
That Cleaver is impressive. And the Croc as well.
The collars shouldn’t be included in the heads at all. Just put an insert in your arrow shaft. The heads 100 grains. That’s all. A collar is just a non fixed insert.
Yeah, but it does allow you easier flexibility. One of the heads is 125 grs without the collar, and is all steel. That’s the one I tested. The collar makes it also 150 gr
I think this is a sold head for sure
Yep
Must be nice to get free bows and crossbow. I am giving away a new killer instinct brand new on my channel
It is nice. Honestly, it’s a lot of work-but it’s work I enjoy doing.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Realistically NOT really FREE.. You are doing the work to deserve such things.. Great testing and reviews you are doing, I have been following along for years you put me on QAD Exodus years ago and I harvested moose and haven't looked back
Great repply John!@@LuskArcheryAdventures
Slick Trick straight copying Grizzlystik at this point
Lots of heads are coming out with similar single bevels now. Crimson Talon, Magnus, Slick Trick, just to name a few.
Sexy I’m a fan of the single bevel one piece heads myself
Nice
@@LuskArcheryAdventures wicked nice 👍🏻
Hard Pass.....spend the extra few bucks and get a real head....Iron Will single bevel....thanks for what you do John.
:)