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Would love to see you covering more neural DSP plugins! Your tones are always great. Maybe you being such a rectifier guy (like myself) and neural seing how good you can make their stuff sound, it can influence them on finally releasing a Dual Rectifier in plugin format... one can only dream hahah
Both sound great in the mix and most people would never know the difference. That being said, the real amp did have a tiny bit more of low mids and seemed just slightly more forward like it was more on the edge of the speakers. In 2024, it really comes down to whether or not you're willing to spend thousands of dollars more for literally about a 1% improvement. I own the QC and a few of their plugins. It is everything I always wanted my Kemper and AxeFx's to be. I'm sure the latest AxeFx is improved on my 2nd gen version, but something about it just never seemed remotely as real as the QC to my ears. Great time to be a guitar player for sure.
Just picked up an SLO 30!!! Absolute beast of an amp. Gonna try slaving it to my Grandmeister to try to get some Triamp-like tones, haha. Great video, as always!
Hello Jon! I've always wondered, what is your processing chain in the daw? Sometimes I struggle getting a sound similar to yours even using the same amplifier, the same IR and the same loadbox. Thank you very much for everything you do, the most complete amp channel in the world!
He probably has a mastering chain on at the end of it or some kind of EQ curve before the plug-in. Of course his song demos and mixed and mastered so definitely going to be hard to sound like his. He’s a beast and makes EVERYTHING sound killer!
The plugin is muddier in the low end, but is still very good. I’d like to see you compare amps to plugins but with post-processing in place like a real mix. Just to see what “best case” is for both.
Thanx, Jon! Nice review! But to me the best emulated Soldano options out there are as follows: Slowrunner by VTar Amps, Danegeld (channel 4) by St.Rock (free), and NAM captures of Leon Todd's Hot Rod 50 (also free).
“Soon” for like the last 2+ years on the plugins. I literally just liquid profiled my Neural SLo plug-in in the Kemper and “soon”’d it myself. It sounds exactly the same and it’s in my Kemper and I don’t need the QC.
Nice! Been using the SLO-plugin for leads since it was released. Really sweet plugin. Unfortunately I don't own the real amp so this was a good comparison. They are really close even though the amp sounds just a bit better on everything imho. Cheers!
Do the settings in the video match the settings you used for the recordings? Because there is a _lot_ of difference between your SLO30 and the plugin then (can be numerous of reasons so I'm not calling this a bad thing... but mid scooped on one and pushed on the other, with stark presence differences does make me go 'hmmmm')
Yea, my slo30 amp sounds too nasal with the mid turned up that much like he had it in the vid. His productions are definitely more polished than most others.
Good stuff Sir! The plug in has some fake tube rawness that I actually like, but I think for the tightness factor of your style, the real amp wins this one.
What interface was used to dial in the plugin? Also, a comparison between various audio interfaces would be great, to see how it affects the tone and overall quality
Judging by the drums to guitars balance, it sounds like the real amp is mixed a tiny bit louder in volume compared to the plugin. - so that can skew the comparison a bit
Very close but the differences are there, i closed my eyes and pushed the spacebar to pause every time i thought it was the amp and got it right every time. The plugin seems more compressed or at least more even in the over all frequencies which gives it away. The difference sounds small at first but then the more you hear it the easier it is to pick out straight away. The plugin sounds great for sure but give me the amp any day
It's really easy. If you want to feel the real thing live, buy the amp. You wanna record on the cheap, use the plug-in. It's a real chore to get the great recording with the amp/cab/mic etc...or you can do it easy using a computer. I have a bunch of amps. I don't have a bunch of computer stuff.
Great comparison. The plugin is less defined in the low end but that could most likely be sorted with some EQ tweaks. I have owned the plugin for a couple of years and it is very good. Great video
I like amp with microphones, it s more alive when you record that from the start even when you did nothing on the track. And i like this soldano amp clean with stomboxes like clean boost and things like that .. That soldano amp is great in the sound and not for metal only ..
The neural dsp stuff is overpriced and over hyped! It sounds okish, compared to the amp it falls apart, plastic, flat, no dimension in the mix, and the main thing it sounds cluttered, not defined like the amp. Thanks for this video here!
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Good to hear some Neural DSP plugins comparison with the real deal on your channel as well. Keep up the good work Jon
Thanks!
Man i love neural. Saving us all 1000s on boutique amps. Have been sold on nolly + plini for years but definitely giving this a go
Would love to see you covering more neural DSP plugins! Your tones are always great. Maybe you being such a rectifier guy (like myself) and neural seing how good you can make their stuff sound, it can influence them on finally releasing a Dual Rectifier in plugin format... one can only dream hahah
Middle control turned up on the plugin would be interesting.
Both sound great in the mix and most people would never know the difference.
That being said, the real amp did have a tiny bit more of low mids and seemed just slightly more forward like it was more on the edge of the speakers.
In 2024, it really comes down to whether or not you're willing to spend thousands of dollars more for literally about a 1% improvement.
I own the QC and a few of their plugins. It is everything I always wanted my Kemper and AxeFx's to be. I'm sure the latest AxeFx is improved on my 2nd gen version, but something about it just never seemed remotely as real as the QC to my ears.
Great time to be a guitar player for sure.
Just picked up an SLO 30!!! Absolute beast of an amp. Gonna try slaving it to my Grandmeister to try to get some Triamp-like tones, haha. Great video, as always!
Hello Jon! I've always wondered, what is your processing chain in the daw? Sometimes I struggle getting a sound similar to yours even using the same amplifier, the same IR and the same loadbox. Thank you very much for everything you do, the most complete amp channel in the world!
He probably has a mastering chain on at the end of it or some kind of EQ curve before the plug-in. Of course his song demos and mixed and mastered so definitely going to be hard to sound like his. He’s a beast and makes EVERYTHING sound killer!
The plugin is muddier in the low end, but is still very good. I’d like to see you compare amps to plugins but with post-processing in place like a real mix. Just to see what “best case” is for both.
Thanx, Jon! Nice review! But to me the best emulated Soldano options out there are as follows: Slowrunner by VTar Amps, Danegeld (channel 4) by St.Rock (free), and NAM captures of Leon Todd's Hot Rod 50 (also free).
I really suggest you should try out VTar Amps stuff. In terms of tone it blow the NDSP stuff out the water imho. Peace, everyone.
It's a really great quality that can fool an amateur, but it's up to you to decide whether or not you're happy with it.
“Soon” for like the last 2+ years on the plugins. I literally just liquid profiled my Neural SLo plug-in in the Kemper and “soon”’d it myself. It sounds exactly the same and it’s in my Kemper and I don’t need the QC.
Nice! Been using the SLO-plugin for leads since it was released. Really sweet plugin. Unfortunately I don't own the real amp so this was a good comparison. They are really close even though the amp sounds just a bit better on everything imho. Cheers!
Do the settings in the video match the settings you used for the recordings? Because there is a _lot_ of difference between your SLO30 and the plugin then (can be numerous of reasons so I'm not calling this a bad thing... but mid scooped on one and pushed on the other, with stark presence differences does make me go 'hmmmm')
Yea, my slo30 amp sounds too nasal with the mid turned up that much like he had it in the vid. His productions are definitely more polished than most others.
@pythonflying that's absolute nonsense. There's no processing on the guitars
It's a bad ass plug-in.
Good stuff Sir!
The plug in has some fake tube rawness that I actually like, but I think for the tightness factor of your style, the real amp wins this one.
What interface was used to dial in the plugin? Also, a comparison between various audio interfaces would be great, to see how it affects the tone and overall quality
Judging by the drums to guitars balance, it sounds like the real amp is mixed a tiny bit louder in volume compared to the plugin. - so that can skew the comparison a bit
They were level matched
Thanks John! Love the channel
The real one sounds more wild and vocal, and like it's "floating".
I prefer the smoother saturation and compression of the plugin though.
Very close but the differences are there, i closed my eyes and pushed the spacebar to pause every time i thought it was the amp and got it right every time. The plugin seems more compressed or at least more even in the over all frequencies which gives it away. The difference sounds small at first but then the more you hear it the easier it is to pick out straight away. The plugin sounds great for sure but give me the amp any day
It's really easy. If you want to feel the real thing live, buy the amp. You wanna record on the cheap, use the plug-in. It's a real chore to get the great recording with the amp/cab/mic etc...or you can do it easy using a computer. I have a bunch of amps. I don't have a bunch of computer stuff.
The real amp has more mids but the"sound" is very much the same. I preferred the plug-in.
Close enough I think, especially given the 30 vs 100 difference.
John this was a great comparison the SLO is one of the greats I love the tones you get
Great comparison. The plugin is less defined in the low end but that could most likely be sorted with some EQ tweaks. I have owned the plugin for a couple of years and it is very good. Great video
In the isolated comparisons at the end, it seems the real amp had maybe a bit more presence. Both are very good!
Well, that's nonsense. Controls are there to be used
I like amp with microphones, it s more alive when you record that from the start even when you did nothing on the track.
And i like this soldano amp clean with stomboxes like clean boost and things like that ..
That soldano amp is great in the sound and not for metal only ..
In your mix they are almost identical.
Amp sounds better.
The neural dsp stuff is overpriced and over hyped! It sounds okish, compared to the amp it falls apart, plastic, flat, no dimension in the mix, and the main thing it sounds cluttered, not defined like the amp. Thanks for this video here!
The plugin doesn’t sound as good as the real amp, but it’s fine for creating demos.
There's a huge difference. Plugins sound plastic.