The "Bad Guys" of Fallout

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  • @swissarmyknight4306
    @swissarmyknight4306 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Worth pointing out that The Master isn't as smart as he thinks. He's the one who tells you about his "incredible intellectual abilities". A lot of players make that mistake and don't realize that The Master is an unreliable narrator of his own story. In my playthrough I demonstrated to him that his experiment was a failure, that the super mutants were sterile. He then realized how crazy he had become and video gamed himself. He wasn't a "super intellect"; he was experiencing megalomania and psychosis that made him THINK he was incredibly smart.

    • @incredibleflameboy
      @incredibleflameboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The master does have access to almost all prewar knowledge since he's become part of Mariposa and is a fairly powerful psyker. I think he's the only psyker shown throughout fallout that isn't either debilitated by his power or need extras like chems to power them up, in fact his intellect is so high that the unity have to wear protection against him or be overwhelmed and effectively mind wiped if not outright killed. The only major psychic power the master doesn't seem to actually have is precognition but it would be reasonable for him to think that his dream for unity was foresight since every other psyker has some precognition and up until the vault dweller walked in he had been right about almost everything as far as he knew.
      You have to remember that he figured out FEV whilst turning into a puddle on the floor and not only did he learn it, he pretty much perfected it being able to get super mutants almost every time, super mutants that don't really need to reproduce if he achieved unity because super mutants are functionally immortal, as they age they just get bigger until they become behemoths.
      He wasn't an intellectual slouch pre mutation either, he was a wasteland doctor and if Harold is to be believed (and I don't see a reason not to) one of the smartest people in the wasteland.
      Moreau's biggest flaw wasn't that he wasn't intelligent, it was that he was too intelligent for his own good. When you disprove him you set him over to despair but given time it's perfectly possible and probably likely that he could reverse mutations since Virgil is able to do so and there's no way you could compare any individual institute member to the master, he out thinks them in every way.

  • @saschaberger3212
    @saschaberger3212 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    Master was baffled about his super mutants being sterile. But there was no female super mutant. Even if they weren't sterile, what was his plan?

    • @supahgaming8249
      @supahgaming8249 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      it’s just not represented visually ingame, but they do retain their original internal and external organs. they’re just infertile.

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      I thought there were female super mutants? What about Lily in New Vegas? Interesting stuff.

    • @saschaberger3212
      @saschaberger3212 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@ConstellationsGaming Lily the nightkin is one of the first you see in the series but that's Bethesda Fallout.

    • @saschaberger3212
      @saschaberger3212 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@supahgaming8249 guess that's it. Always wondered why there were none. They just didn't make different models

    • @Balls_on_Chin
      @Balls_on_Chin หลายเดือนก่อน

      cause the muties are homies, and you always ride your homies

  • @janus1140
    @janus1140 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    exposure to radiation was literally the opposite of key for successful super mutants those who had damaged genetics via radiation exposure were inferior to "prime normal" derived super mutants that's why one of the masters main goals was to find and conquer vaults

  • @ven173
    @ven173 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Trouble with deciding an antagonist for 76 is the man responsible for the scorched plague, Eckhart, is already dead and screwing up Appalachia from beyond the grave.

  • @solocanaanite4655
    @solocanaanite4655 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Dick Richardson= Dick Dickson

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      😂 ol Dick Dick

    • @JMGaming1288
      @JMGaming1288 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Okay so I wasn't the only one who said exactly this. 😂😂😂

    • @bulbartle
      @bulbartle หลายเดือนก่อน

      Penis penisson, my favorite president

  • @Theebloodybaby
    @Theebloodybaby หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    In the fallout games that give you options for endings, the evil character is like Benny or Kellogg, their not really evil but the plays courier hates them for something, so the NCR and legion in NV are not evil because it’s the players pov

  • @Palemagpie
    @Palemagpie หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    You know... That thumbnail made something occur to me.
    The brotherhood really should have been the villains of fallout 3.
    Think about it. Their ideology is specifically anti mutant. Even non-feral ghouls.
    They just gun them down.
    But the enclave, for all their many, many, many flaws, weren't anti mutant. I mean they shreked Frank Horrigan, specifically to make him a better killing machine.
    They were exposed to radiation massively out at the rig. And were actively experimenting with FEV to use it on themselves.
    They were monsters, sure. But why would they want to secretly genocide a large portion of Washington state. They were mutated themselves.
    They wanted control, and wanting the purifier, sure. That's logical. That's a great bargaining chip to exert political soft power.
    But they'd gain nothing from it being tainted. They'd only be weakening it's potential as a bargaining chip.
    Now the brotherhood. Them poisoning the purifier. That makes sense. "Normal" people can still use it. But anyone mutated getting sick or dying off, that's entirely within their logic.
    Even within Bethesda Lore. They doomed Rivet city to rip its reactor for The Prydwen.
    They are more than capable of relying on military strength or savagery to achieve their goals. And they despise mutants.
    Basically every interaction with the Enclave in F3 could have been named swapped to the brotherhood. And it would have actually improved the story.
    The "evil" choice of siding with the brotherhood in those circumstances also wouldn't be so clear cut and direct.
    Like yea, you'd be committing a genocide. Those are bad, you shouldn't do those. But have you seen it out there?
    Genetic monstrosities roam the land and prey on the people. Sure a lot of people would die. But how many more in the long run are gonna be kidnapped by super mutants.
    how many more are gonna be devoured alive by giant ants?
    You'd be doing something monstrous. But how many more would live because of your actions? How many more lives could grow up in relative safety. Due to you flipping a switch?
    You could argue either action is monstrous. Each condemns hundreds to death. Thousands maybe. Either passively, allowing the wasteland to continue preying on the weak, the helpless for the benefit of the brutal the cunning.
    Or actively, by sabotaging Project purity. You would condemn thousands to potentially save countless more.
    And that's a far more interesting choice.

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Interesting perspective for sure. I never thought about the brotherhood being the ones to poison the purifier, but that would have been a cool twist. Thanks for watching and commenting, really do appreciate it.

    • @paulhodgers
      @paulhodgers หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That's a wild take on the enclave not being anti mutant 😂

    • @russianbear6517
      @russianbear6517 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What are u on about

    • @TomBombadil1350
      @TomBombadil1350 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did you play fallout3? The enclave wants to kill anything and anyone who has been mutated

    • @xdclancer8847
      @xdclancer8847 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The entire enclave plot is about killing off anyone who isn’t them 😂😂 go play the game again

  • @totallytubular618
    @totallytubular618 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Since "antagonist" means "person, group, or force that works against the protagonist" rather than "bad guy," and because the player chooses their main antagonist in many Fallout games, y'all prolly should have covered the NCR too.

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought about it. But, I didn’t really cover factions. So honestly who would I cover for the NCR? Kimball? Oliver? Both seem pretty distant from the narrative.

  • @pokefaint
    @pokefaint หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Love Mr Lunar and Mrs Lunar voice work 🤌🏽
    Great video so far

  • @B-zk9bt
    @B-zk9bt 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like Shaun and Mr. House would have a very interesting discussion about how the wasteland should be rebuilt.

    • @kaiserfranzjoseph9311
      @kaiserfranzjoseph9311 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      not really. The way Shaun is written makes him insanely stupid, so the conversation would just be him saying something and House imediatly debunking it

  • @quietboy121
    @quietboy121 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    New name? Good vid as always can't wait for more keep it up

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      New channel! But thank you, we appreciate it.

    • @badwithsalt
      @badwithsalt หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was the channel name before?

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@badwithsalt Lunar Legends Gaming. It’s still going but I’m over here mostly these days.

    • @quietboy121
      @quietboy121 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ConstellationsGaming ik its new ive been a long time fan ig but its been a while since i watched but good to see your still going keep it up 🫡🙏🏽

  • @cascadianrangers728
    @cascadianrangers728 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just like in real life when I play fallout everyone breathing and not bleeding is my antagonist

  • @OppositeGhost
    @OppositeGhost หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ulysses suffer so much from his past I spare him he doesn’t deserve to die

  • @ShadowShinobi2012
    @ShadowShinobi2012 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm going to say this. I would've liked Fallout 3's plot a lot better if we had the choice to join the Brotherhood of Steel, have our own "Yes Man" style of nuking everyone so to speak, joining "President" Eden, or siding with Colonel Autumn and aiding him in his goals, which would lead to him being the next President and you being his right hand man. Even though Autumn opposed Eden, he wasn't written in an way that I would've believed he wanted to be altruistic. I saw him as an arrogant jerk that was more than willing to murder anyone that got in his way. He didn't attempt to negotiate with us and form a treaty. Everything was "Do it my way or die". It would've been better to have actually seen the dichotomy between Autumn and Eden play out and for you to help decide whom leads the Enclave. Could've been an interesting plot point to either "retake the purifier" from the Enclave or to "defend the purifier" from the Brotherhood and either destroy or take control of Liberty Prime.

  • @kaiserfranzjoseph9311
    @kaiserfranzjoseph9311 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you include House and Caesar, you should also include Kimball or one of his generals in the Mojave. Including Ulyssis means that few dozen other DLC main antagonists like Salt Upon Wounds and Elija should also be included

  • @CaptainMichaelJCaboose
    @CaptainMichaelJCaboose หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my mind the courier is a villian himself
    With his hopeville track record and his ultimate decisions for the independent vegas

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, from an outside perspective they probably look like one in most circumstances.

    • @CaptainMichaelJCaboose
      @CaptainMichaelJCaboose หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ConstellationsGaming I mean yeah the guys a maniac which is why I love him lol

  • @OutSideTheBoxYT2
    @OutSideTheBoxYT2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The back and forth between male and female voices is gr8 for retention

  • @99billionninjas62534
    @99billionninjas62534 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good stuff I was looking for you guys

  • @theHAMWar
    @theHAMWar หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video!

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

    • @ducati4dj
      @ducati4dj หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ConstellationsGamingspank bank updated 😮

  • @Badclamz83GaMinG
    @Badclamz83GaMinG หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent Video overall! Definitely gained a Sub thanks

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Comments like yours make our day. We appreciate it.

  • @walrusbigins246
    @walrusbigins246 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    can you do Fallout Tactics and Fallout Brotherhood of Steel

  • @averageperson5845
    @averageperson5845 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I stand with the supporting Mr house being the canon ending but the series says otherwise

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don’t know yet. Could be possible he’s still running vegas in Season 2 of the show.

    • @averageperson5845
      @averageperson5845 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ConstellationsGaming most likely not, if we see the state of the strip, its in disrepair

    • @Miaubrains
      @Miaubrains หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its not Canon, so who cares.

    • @xdclancer8847
      @xdclancer8847 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Miaubrainsthe show is 100% canon tf you on about 😂

    • @unusualsuspect980
      @unusualsuspect980 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MiaubrainsIt's 100% canon.

  • @incredibleflameboy
    @incredibleflameboy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who's Benny? Are you talking about chandler bing?

  • @lexiwilkinson4895
    @lexiwilkinson4895 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need more Mrs lunar 🎉

  • @JMGaming1288
    @JMGaming1288 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to see something like this for the elder scrolls!

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cool idea. I’ll definitely add it to the list. 👍

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think there is such a thing as an actual evil in Elder Scrolls except for the first villain of the first game
      The Daggerfall villain was doing more politics if anything
      Morrowind was betrayed and doing what he had to do for what HE thought it would be better for his people
      Oblivion villain was really just trying to end the power imbalance of the world being basically taken by the Septim empire
      And Skyrim antagonist really was trying to break himself out of the prophecy by taking the world instead of eating it
      They were bad, yes, but they were doing what they believed it was necessary for their own ideas

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle that’s what makes good villains. Ones that think they’re right.

  • @lzrd00d5
    @lzrd00d5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So we just gonna ignore doctor blackburn?

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No. But he’s part of the steel dawn add-on and the only character that I included from any DLC or add-ons was Ulysses. I’ll cover the rest in future videos. 🫡

  • @sndchamp9949
    @sndchamp9949 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hated listening to Ulysses monologue all day but nuking the NCR was ganagster asfuck

  • @jamesmccain5792
    @jamesmccain5792 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You left out Mr Burke from FO3. At the start he takes out a contract to kill you if you don't nuke Megaton.

    • @jamesmccain5792
      @jamesmccain5792 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, if you talk to Tenpenny he is not even aware of Burkes' plan. He just tells Burke how much an eyesore Megaton is.

  • @gabbaghoul1132
    @gabbaghoul1132 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot about Father Elijah from the Dead Money DLC

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I didn’t forget. I didn’t do any DLC villains besides Ulysses because he feels part of the overarching plot of New Vegas as a whole. There’ll be a part 2 video where I do all the dlc antagonists.

  • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
    @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean
    Vault tech is right there...

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s definitely more of a Fallout tv show thing. We focused on individual characters within the games and I can’t think of a vault tech antagonist from the games.

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ConstellationsGaming I am talking about the vault experiments

  • @chrisberg2
    @chrisberg2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Only good guys in Fallout 4 is the minutmen and the institute once you take over as the director.

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s an interesting take as far as the institute is concerned but I respect it.

    • @theveteransergeant
      @theveteransergeant หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Railroad are good guys too.
      Though, honestly, everyone in Fallout 4 is a borderline psychopath since no matter which route you choose, it ends up with them deciding detonating more nuclear devices in the middle of Boston is a good idea.
      Funny enough, in my first playthrough, I was going to choose the Brotherhood, but then they told me their grand plan was to get a bunch of nukes and fire them at the Institute, and murder the Railroad.
      So I chose the Railroad instead, and, shocked Pikachu face, they told me *their* grand plan was to detonate the nuclear reactor inside the Institute to destroy it. The Minutemen somehow through the power of lazy writing end up with an almost identical plan.
      Ironically, the Institute are the only ones not choosing to nuke anyone, though they're just garden variety sociopaths with little to no interest in helping anyone on the surface.

    • @Sravan.Allopi
      @Sravan.Allopi หลายเดือนก่อน

      *AD VICTORIAM INTENSIFIES*

  • @fizzynizzle
    @fizzynizzle หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The real antagonist of 76 is Bethesda.

    • @Racczn
      @Racczn 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Needs more likes 💀💀💀💀

    • @delirioustax2400
      @delirioustax2400 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not only 76. The whole IP

  • @villings
    @villings หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    in the case of fallout 76, the main antagonist is bethesda heyooooo
    great video, by the way _!!_

    • @ConstellationsGaming
      @ConstellationsGaming  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha I thought about saying it was the bugs but I didn’t want to beat a dead horse. Thanks for watching as always.

  • @thehillbillygamer2183
    @thehillbillygamer2183 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fallout 76 sucks it's not a real Fallout game because it's not single player plain and simple

    • @mk-ru2hy
      @mk-ru2hy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😐

    • @chriswentz5197
      @chriswentz5197 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is just like that japanese soldier that keep fighting 36 years after the war ended
      Let it go mf

    • @Magnicentrabbit
      @Magnicentrabbit หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤓