The final moments of Ethiopian flight 302 and the crisis of Boeing 737 Max 800 planes
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- Based on actual sources and expert analysis, #Bisbo recreates the final moments of what went technically wrong with the #Boeing737Max 800 planes. Understand how flight sensors misread the crucial AoA or angle of attack triggering off a new unknown software update called the MCAS, leading to the two fatal crashes of Ethiopian Airways flight 302 and the Lion Air JT610 of 2018 and how Boeing and the FAA tried to play the incidents. Make sure to hear the limerick at the end.
Sources:
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#NewYorkTimes
Boeing to cut 737 Max production; David Gelles; 7 Apr, 2019
The dangerous flaws in Boeing’s automated system; Mika Grondahl, Keith Collins & James Granz; Apr 4, 2019
FAA’s safety check under lens as Boeing unveils software fix; David Gelles & Thomas Kaplan; Mar 28, 2019
In Boeing test, pilots had 40 seconds to fix error; Jack Nicas, James Glanz & David Gelles; Mar 26, 2019
Boeing jets lacked 2 safety features that company sold only as extras; Hiroko Tabuchi & David Gelles; Mar 21, 2019
Boeing Max 8 hit trouble right away, pilot’s tense messages show; Selam Gebrekidan & James Glanz; Mar 15, 2019
Company promised software fix last year but airlines still waiting; Natalie Kitroeff, Jack Nicas & Thomas Kaplan; Mar 14, 2019
Boeing works to manage crisis with unknown costs; Natalie Kitroeff; Mar 14, 2019
What can explain the 737 Max 8 crashes (ToI); Mar 12, 2019
#Reuters
Boeing suspends forecasts, puts cost of 737 Max crisis at $1B; Apr 24, 2019
Boeing system triggered repeatedly in Ethiopian crash, say sources; Apr 4, 2019
Black box review begins; Mar 5, 2019
Boeing face first post crash; Mar 30, 2019
Lion Air jet that crashed killing 189 was not airworthy; Nov 29, 2019
#HindustanTimes
Boeing plans software updates to make its 737 Max planes safer; Rhik Kundu; Mar 29, 2019
DGCA yet to take a call on Boeing 737 jets, issues safety guidelines; Faizan Haider; Mar 12, 2019
#Bloomberg
EU Agency said to have skipped 737 Max meetings in snub to Boeing; Apr 1, 2019
Clue linking Boeing 737 Max disasters came from space; Alan Levin, Mar 15, 2019
Boeing drops most since 2001 as 3 countries ground 737 Max jets; Mar 12, 2019
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Bisbo's Limerick:
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Don't forget to watch Bisbo's Limerick at the end of each video, that neatly sums up the topic.
Passengers in the Max 800 met an unfortunate end
Incomplete training is not something Boeing can defend
To the market they rushed
Many lives did they crush
And for that Boeing will have to make amends
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This Channel deserves way more subscribers love this Channel 😊😊😊😊
My best friend Sam was on that plain may he rest in peace😭😭
My condolence
Press F for his friend
@@kumaribangaru3185 F
Rip
Deepest condolences
5:34 "good luck finding it in an emergency" well said!
on the other hand some real dedication to your profession could lead you to reading those books everyday and almost knowing their content by heart
Hey Bisbo, I Like Your Videos From Canada.
Thanks Jerry
hey bibso, im late, but nice vid! you deserve more subs. this is really sad, thanks so much for the explanation! i love your voice btw!
Thanks
Dude
That's alot of explanation 😳😳😳
Mind boggling 👍👌👌👌👌
Excellent explanation-thanks for the hard work!!!!
Great to see a video after a long time!!!
Great knowledge 👍 @bisbo
Thanks Aditya
Ethiopian Airlines is the best airline in Africa and one of the fastest growing in the world. It’s terrible that it happened to them thanks to the corporate greed of Boeing.
Way before lion and Ethiopian (when 737max was in the making) incident..someone went inside Boeing factory and took secret interview.. I still remember an engineer saying "I won't fly in this bullshit, they have compromised safety for making money"..I think TH-cam removed that video..
Ethiopian airlines also failed to follow basic maintenance for their fleet, while green lighting shoddy repairs and beating employees. And don't even get me started on the horrific job that the pilots did at managing the situation.
I thought..SAA..was the best in Africa.
@@gunston999 nah, it is the worst
@@waterdrinkingexpert6797 thank you for actually listening to the facts, I think the main problem was the lack of training which wasn't the pilots fault but the airlines.
Good luck finding it in emergency !!!
Favorite quote.
Love your videos! Just amazing!
Thanks Adithya
R.I.P to all passengers on both Lion Air and Ethiopian airways flights as for Boeing trying to save costs over lives and safety of passengers on board you should be ashamed of yourselves not only that no improper training was carried out for the pilots to understand the New MCAS system heartbreaking 💔
Nice video but why did you show 2 Lion Air planes crashing? Shouldn’t it have been 1 lion air and 1 Ethiopian airlines plane?
Thank you for the great video. It's very unfortunate that so many lives have been lost due to Boeing's greed and lack of responsability.
Ethiopian airlines
0:24 They also add "Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!" Call
I didn’t read about Mayday call in the reports. However flight recorder analysis may show that a call was made.
Brother, which software you used for making this video?
He uses Adobe animate CC
Very nice and informative as usual!
Thanks Akhil
Good one Bisbo.
Make a video on Kandhahar Flight Hijack
Great channel,great explanation and great channel....keep it up bisbo
Thanks a lot Aryadev
You gained a subscriber
Cool channel. (Sad topic though). You hsve a new subscriber!
Thanks for simplifying the technical explanation for us.
The aircraft in question is called "Boeing 737 MAX 8", not "737 MAX 800".
This confused me as the predessor to the MAX 8 was called the "Boeing 737-800"
Boeing should be sued by each and every family that suffered. What kind of engineers are they?
They are excellent engineers. The executives are idiots.
And what would you have done differently?
Plane would still stall
@@TheBritishRunner I would not let this pass into production, as an engineer safety is paramount nothing is before that.
@@stanleysaha4761 not up to engineering it's up to the greasy fat cats that wanted more of a profit the executives pull the strings
Bisbo you made a mistake at 8:13. You see the AOA system is not required in an airplane as it is already shown in the PFD, where the speed, altitude and AOA of a plane. If it is 10 in the blue area then the airplane's AOA is 10°.
4:05 excuse me but that plane was climbing
Wonderful topic bisbo
Thanks Shashidhar
Great explanation
I wish you to get 1 million Subscribers soon.
Thanks Bedanta
Sir,Can you make a video on the collapse of jet airways
Already made. Check inside channel.
I don't feel it is right to make sensationalism out of a tragedy. Real people lost lives.
There are inaccuracies in the video. The AoA is rarely used by commercial pilots. Only trained military pilots like to use it. It's a secondary indication not all agree should be on primary display competing for pilot attention. That's why some companies demanded it, most others prefer not to. Not a price or economy problem.
There is an established procedure to deal with "Runaway stabilizer". It is a memory item that all pilots have to know by memory and apply by reflex if something strange happens. It was so in previous iterations of the B737, hence pilots were trained for it.
As we rely more and more in automation, once something goes wrong, there is a kind of surprise that retards complete awareness of what is happening and what should be done.
One crew at Lion Air had a third pilot on a jump seat that immediately pointed to the correct procedure and they landed safely.
The crew did the procedure, and flew manually. They even "canceled" emergency and avoided returning what is not common practice as I heard.
The next crew on the same plane did not have the same luck.
Boeing and FAA issued an AD (Airworthiness Directive) stressing what was known from the accident and how to deal with such problems with the old established procedure.
Ethiopian ET302 probably knew that, and partially applied the procedure. Investigation is underway and we have only preliminary results.
One failed component should not down an airplane. There are complex interactions of humans, computers, the plane and it's environment that must me studied, lessons learned so as to avoid other events both with this planes and others.
I totally understand that with the fixed software, warning lights and proper training the Max can and will become one of the best and safest aircraft but that doesn't bring the lost lives back...
Great video, but the -800 and the MAX are actually two different airplanes.
I didn't know that the pilot was Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Wow such a great video
The airplane you used in the animation is a B777-300ER
You are talented... Very creative...
All videos on youtube about the 787 max crashes have their comments turned off, except this one....
You spoke things we understand.everything.😎
Hold up. If that’s the case then why haven’t they install a emergency stop button for the MCAS if it’s being defective
I will tell you why. Because they did not care.
Are you an air line pilot.your video was fascinating.very well explained.Thanks.
Good video as always, please let us know where you're from so I can personally thank you for such amazing content ❤️❤️
Thanks Srini. We are from Mumbai
The only problem with your videos is the sound is not clear...it's like it has been recorded in bathroom
We have a recording room that semi-professional (but its the size of a bathroom!)
Great video making
2:09
Bisbo: boeing 737 max's 8 sensors
SHOWS A BOEING 777
Oops
I think it’s just showing a plane
And a330
Don't be too exact. He got everything else right. Cool explanation
Very good
Thanks Shantanu
So sad
It is not called Boeing 737 Max 800 planes it is called Boeing 737 Max8 aircrafts.
The thumbnail showed an Ethiopian 767-400, and the video said 737-800 max.
Thanks Bisbo to bring out this informative clip. The presentation with pictorial finece, easy to understand narration you have done a great work to make the nitty-gritty of aviation safety measures. Internal rivelary, external ecomonic pressures. Well told.
Pl let us know in sight of weapons manufacturing industry. The wars are made to order not by the political compulsions but to please weapons industries of advanced nations.
Great video Thanks
Why the peoples dont jump with parasuite
I liked 👍 your limerick
It's not Ethiopian Airways, it's Ethiopian Airlines
Mr Bisbo, excellent information. Thank you very much for this video.
Welcome Sir
Why we don't need AI explained.
You are the best
Thanks Veena
Hey bisbo try doing video on "Mark comings free energy"! These are the things PPL should must know! Thank you:-)
Can you explain further. I didn’t follow
What an excellent vidro
Well researched video
Sorry for late post, but 2017 was safest year in aviation history with only 44 deaths reported from aircraft crashes.
Bisco pls make a video on Australia wildfire..
Hey, you're that guy I talk to on the phone when I have computer problems 🤔
Lol 😂 mercifully I’m not the one you talk to when you plane has problems!
You could have used an animated Boeing 737 MAX in the video, instead of using what look like Boeing 777 for Ethiopian and Airbus A310 for Lion Air
Good video.
Thanks
Great video
Boeing should have been charged with murder as they avoided to instruct pilots of the system.
He did actually switch the mcas off.
Thank you for mentioning the PW1000g errors!
NEW HERE...NICE VIDEO...ARE YOU FROM INDIA?
the 737-800 had no problems but the max did
for some reason they didn’t grounded or took away the flying certificate from the max after the first crash
they only did when another max had to crash adding 157 lives to the list of people died on a max plane
the 737-800 has an impeccable record and is one of the safest planes on the skies, And now people will probably confuse it with the 737 Max. Its all Boeing's fault though, they rushed to make a plane to compete with A320 Neo's but couldn't properly build one from scratch
@@adityanihlani8804 yeah, infact the 737 NG family (600-900) was the only generation of the 737 that didn’t have significant design flaws or weaknesses, only minor thing it had was that it tended to bank right slightly which combined with pilot error and bad CRM led to a crash in 2007.
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Hot topic about avengers endgame ?????
7:35 Boeing still makes all of their aircraft by hand.
Bisbo I am your old subscriber
You should have mentioned the main reason for this problem because of duopoly between boieng and Airbus
Make video on srilanka bomb blast
Oh very sad srilanka is my mother land
Profit > human safety and well being 😔
Why MCAs not test-run by Boeing?
Excellent
Thanks
Southwest and American still had that,FAA granted
Sir I requested a video on mandya general election (Karnataka)
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Kinda like what happened in flight 79
"Dont sink!" *While the planes automaticaly nose dive into the ground at posibly 500 to 700 mph*
why on earth is there an air force one at 1:04
I don't see that
I'm sure boeing ceo donated a part of his consciousness to that plane.
Voice not clear and quality
Sorry
The best video explaining problems with 737 max. Keep up the good work!
Love you bisbo
This is not ethiopia english this is india
As always, Good content. But I always find his commentary funny. No offense though.
perfectly made video. But Airbus planes do not have this nose-up problem. Boeing needs to bring the engines underneath the wing and construct longer landing gear. Then the 737 will fly aerodynamically stable like the A-320.
Your point is right on! That's the key. Yet Boeing is letting everybody be distracted by focusing on the sensors, the MCAS system and training when the root of the problem is the aerodynamics. They compromised safety to save cost by changing the aerodynamics then compromised safety a second time implementing a compensator for the first mistake, the bigger engines. The want to keep away from having to change the aerodynamics back again by focusing only on MCAS. Very sneaky.
Aren’t they already underneath?
Boeing airplanes don't have a nose up problem either. Think… if there is a nose up problem because of the engine location and MCAS is needed to correct it, why is MCAS inactive when the autopilot is turned on? Does the aerodynamics change when the AP is engaged? Must be smart aerodynamics! Or do the engines move under the wing when the AP is engaged? And do you always pretend to be an aerodynamics expert? Or just on TH-cam?
@@petep.2092 Right, MCAS has to permanently push the plane's nose down because it would constantly go up.
6:03 it's not Boeing's problem that India doesn't have any simulators. All that shows is that Indian airlines are not willing to invest in simulators.!
Bhavye's family wanted to preapare for Deepavali
It seems so obvious that a fucking commercial AIRPLANE wouldn't rely on one freaking sensor like that without letting the pilots know it's status and with no other backup data...one sensor. Like wtf why did that happen. It took people dying to install 2 sensors....ok
6:29 really Bisbo? 737-800s are different from the MAXs!!!
B737 max 8R had technical problem with sensors
2:12 looks like a 77W. Not a 7M8
Also 3:13 looks like an A330-200
And 4:28 looks like a 737 classic
Can you get raw black box voices from flight ET 302?
Yeah I really want to hear their voices.
my cousin my cousins dad and my cousins died in this crash only their mother survived 😔😭
edit: may they rest in peace ❤ Hope i get to meet them again 😔
Many people have said this I know your lying
@@Smallshark812 No it's not a joke they actually died why would you think it's a joke when it's real your such a idiot you cant just say it's fake like that when they actually died and I'm crying so shutup and get a life
Objection
Not even a single soul on both max 8 incident survive then how did their mother survive
@@OT_Shady stop lying
You deserve a lot more subscribers man. Please ask people to like, share and subscribe at the end of your video.
Lol that’s a 777-300 in the thumbnail
Can we just think of the person in the bathroom at that time