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Ron DeSantis Bans Black History Because It Includes "Queer" "Indoctrination"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ม.ค. 2023
- -- Republican Florida Governor Ron DeSantis defends banning an AP black history class over "queer" theory and "indoctrination"
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Yes, “we believe in teaching them how to think.” That says it all.
Exactly!! I read that in an article and I was like yep just not hiding it anymore huh Ronny Ron! Well even though he wasn't truly hiding much from anyone on how he thinks! He defends racists and bigots to the end, but when it comes to black, brown, Asians, women and LGBTQ people well he will push them off the cliff. I read an article today that 65% of LGBTQ parents who are LGBTQ themselves or have children who are are seriously deciding to leave Florida and move to blue states and 17% have started the process of moving out of Florida.
To me that was the most disturbing of his awful comments.
He is just quoting every fascist dictator ever.
@@rockdinosaur8619 Do you ever get tired of ignorantly and incorrectly using that word for the sake of tribalism?
Too true man, wonder how much more ammunition he's gonna give others to use against him.
According to the most recent national education assessment, Florida once again has the LARGEST "knowledge dropoff" for learning between 4th and 8th grade, meaning their students know LESS than their counterparts in literally every other state in the nation. (says Farron)
Yes but all they took away from that was "YAY, we're # 1!!"
@@whyamimrpink78 You could say that about anyone!!!
@@whyamimrpink78 I was born and raised in Central Florida until 15 when I moved to PA. I can confirm FL standards for education are SO MUCH lower than those in PA it's embarrassing. That was was 15 years ago and everytime I visit my hometown I hear horror stories of how much WORSE the education system has gotten since I last left.
I had a B average in FL. I passed the FCAT (Florida knock off of the S.A.Ts) first time around. When I took the SATs the following year I had to retake them 3 times to get a grade good enough to get into college. The piss poor quality in education in Florida is NO JOKE.
@@whyamimrpink78 🙄🤭🥱😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
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AP US History was my favorite in hs, prolly one of the most important classes a student would take if they have an interest in the country
In early ‘70s it was memorizing battles, generals, etc. I don’t remember ever getting anything on the background & cruelty of slavery. And nothing on Native Americans except battles. No where was there anything about how WE were the people invading their home & killing them.
@@diedrebenson5950 Education was certainly different back then, that course sounds dope af still :) We learned alot about supreme court cases and how they affected the laws of the country, even did mock trials it was a lot of fun
“Prolly”???? Really???
Prolly? Forget doing History, try doing 1st grade English first.
He's on the Internet typing, let go of your English elitism for one second y'all.
Ignorance + Power = Corruption
today it seems like ignorance +corruption =power
Hence, the Biden crime family.
@@MrZombiecorpse
...wrong...lame ass republican switcheroo
You're ignorant if you think the Bidens AREN'T corrupt.
Ron De Santis has all the charisma of a half boiled potato.
I would have gone with an overcooked, limp stalk of broccoli, but why quibble over such an insipid man- vegetable.
Endlessly droning on about woke Disney. He hates Black Panther and Ms Marvel.
More like an UN-boiled potato.
And yet he got it his charisma and it may be next president !
@@argusburebistus8602 and yet he did not get his charisma and never will. He's an empty suit who simply has followed the pathogenic play book of his one time god Trump
Just trying to do my part, I very much appreciate your channel David!
That's all one can do. Just be a good person even if its hard. It makes a better society.
Good on ya. Being active and informed is what makes our community great.
He is playing to his voter base. Mean spirited.
And ignorant, low IQ, delusional, wrong.
His voter base is white goddamn christians.
They'll be dead in 10 years.
Yep. He's scoring crazy points. That's how you get elected by Republicans these days.
Literal demons, the whole lot of them
It is PAINFUL to hear Ron DeSantis.
I always had a hard time listening to Trump... I could only listen long enough to hear him incriminate himself then fast forward on to the next segment or mute him. Ron DeSantis is right up there with Trump these days.
To hear David say it is much better. The day Trump was elected set off a nationwide curse and De Santis is part of that.
Very
@@thorssensgamesNCC1701 a very very big part of it
Get used to it because when he becomes president your in for a whole world of hate and pain just think wot he can do wouldn’t surprise me if your second amendment actually was used the way it was supposed to be
The podium stating “FLORIDA - The Education State” is just a big ole’ slap on the ass from the irony fairy here.
We are short of teachers. Our public schools are underfunded and overcrowded. But Benito stays mum about that. It would cost him votes to tell the truth.
I'm sorry but how the #$@& is anyone with any sensibility allowing this to go down in America... This is so scary to watch.
We have serious cultural issues, far too many Americans are comfortable with fascism. It’s something that cannot be fixed with education.
Buy guns. Christo-corporate-fascists are coming with force....and loads of stupidity
Watch-out when/if he'll be president in 6 or 10 years...
@@louismailhiot9501 please no
It's easy,they believe they are powerless..😕
That man is nuts! Delusional as well.
How can we protect children from Ron Desantis?
Leave Florida?
@@SirRockodile good start, but there will be a lot of children left behind.
@A Fera "Democrats". I bet that really cracks up the kids in the cafeteria.
Adults are talking, ok?
How can we protect children from oedophiles
I like how he claims it's someone pushing an agenda while he is actively pushing his agenda.
Republican engage in projection?!?! Say what?!!?!?!
Oh neat. So what’s the class he created that pushes his agenda?
@@ricardocabeza6006 HI Ricardo. It seems you are an idiot. So let me explain - his agenda is othering people such as black people and LGBTG and trying to keep them as a sub-section of society so they can get low information voters, like yourself, to vote for people like him without any second thoughts, mostly because you are incapable of it.
@@ricardocabeza6006he literally tells what is taught and what not is taught in class rooms. If anyone pushes against his agenda they are blacklisted, fired and even arrested. The classroom is the state of Florida.
Now david will cry because he can't handle truth of the matter . You libs will donate to his influence.
It's no wonder we're proven to be the dumbest state in the country...
There are states that are challenging Florida for that title.
Lmao conservatives are tryna abolish the Department of Education because it’s a known fact that uneducated simpletons are more likely to grow up and vote Republican
@@trevorbryant4360 True, but who knows if it'll be easy to do so as long as DeSantis is here.
Also dumbest country award. Influence spreads across the world.
@@LilMadX The sad truth.
"We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think". As long as it's how he thinks.
Hitler had a similar agenda.
I've only got a high school diploma, but stupidity is purely ignorance of truth.
You dont need a diploma to understand that being a good person and treating people well is what makes a good citizen and a good country.
Dont sell yourself short my friend. You have more than just a diploma.
@@duckyoutube6318 Ahh. So the left being intolerant of other ideals is an example of how they are bad people. Thanks for the explanation!
I get what you’re saying, but please delete “only”. It’s still an accomplishment. 👍🙂
It’s telling how fragile conservatives think their own sexuality is.
Their bedroom is dead...."so yours better be as well!!!!!" - the ranting lunacy of every conservative
I'm leaving a comment to help this channel in the algorithm.
God bless you David!
Keep doing what you do.
For someone who is always railing on leftists for cancel culture, how else do you categorize this as anything other than DeSantis "cancelling" this AP course??? Oh the irony of it is enough to drive me bonkers!!
It is mind-blowing!! He doesn't see the irony I bet! He has banned everything and people who he wants to pack up and leave Florida! Also I like how he had a sign on the podium that said Florida is an education state! Ummmm what? How? Your banning books and criminalizing teachers!
@@drock9009 Of course he sees the irony. He doesn’t care. He’s just a fascist who wants black people in chains and queer people in mass graves. The rhetorical tactics or justification to do this doesn’t have to be consistent. It’s just a means to an end.
It always has been projection, back to the days they wanted to ban Ozzy Osbourne for being "satanic".
Cancelling child groomers is perfectly fine. Didn't you get the memo?
When you line up what is cancelled by the left and compare that by what is coming from the right I wouldn't mind betting that the right list is longer.
Not gonna lie, I'm kinda surprised he did this after banning a bunch of math textbooks as opposed to before
He banned math books?! Why would anyone ban math books.... that's insane.
That is a serious detriment to our country.
@@duckyoutube6318 apparently maths is too woke now
@@duckyoutube6318 No... the state of florida selected math texts books to use, and as a result, had to choose not to use the others. The left calls that “banning a book” for the sake of tribalism. These books are still available to purchase, even if you live in Florida.
@@ricardocabeza6006 Technically speaking, DeSantis also claimed that there was an 'attempt' to 'indoctrinate' the students, this time over 'Critical Race Theory' in numerous math textbooks.
It would be technically correct to say these textbooks weren't banned. However, when you consider the ability and reason to even get the books, it is a pseudo-ban because they are not allowed in Florida schools - as in, they were specifically pointed out and rejected, thus unable to be used in Florida school curricula unless they completely re-publish their books without the 'Critical Race Theory' in it. And reviewers have pointed out they did not see any signs of 'Critical Race Theory'.
Realistically, who is going to get these textbooks if not the schools? Your premise of 'these books are still available to purchase' doesn't really make sense because - think about it- what student or parent is going to buy a textbook that was disallowed by the Florida Board of Education, that isn't even a part of the curriculum?
The rhetoric of book bans is taking away from the fact that DeSantis did ban numerous books, particularly those with LGBTQ+ themes, following his 'Parental Rights in Education' law.
He actually had a financial interest in one math book, so banned the rest using the usual woke excuse. It should be a much larger scandal with more coverage than it has been. However, like Trump, there is just too many things surrounding him for one story to last. He will be Trump on roids if he wins.
Big Bad Ron loves his Culture Wars. Big Bad Ron gonna throw his weight around.
Ron goes so hard on the LGBTQ+ culture that his interest seems to protest too much.
...I've never seen a "straight" man wear knee high white rubber boots before...DeSantis.
Big Bad Ron gonna throw too hard and off a cliff
@@mtaylor7307 I've seen them worn on commercial fishing boats, never bright white though.
@@asheronwindspear552 Right. DeSantis's were brilliantly gleaming bright white rubber. The only pair I have ever seen like these was on a gay man, who collected of all things rubber, played drums for a funk band, and sold hallucinogenic mushrooms.
So very glad I left teaching when I did. Yet, my heart cries for our children.
They are so irony impaired. We don't want an "agenda", he says, as he advances his agenda.
We can see through this but the dumb dumbs can't and there a lots and lots of dumb dumbs in the USA!
DeSantis calls the course "indoctrination." This would mean that the students are being asked to accept the material _uncritically_. What is his evidence of this? My guess is that he would call the teaching of any topics he doesn't like as "indoctrination." I don't think he knows what the word means.
So what DeSantis is doing there isn't a political agenda? Things like this should go before a court. We should be able to hear from the teacher and the students, instead of just taking his word for it. We need an impartial court to decide political nonsense like this, that is also a watchdog group, ready to stop the presses when someone steps over the line like this. If we don't do that, then these people will just keep abusing their office.
The thing is you can look for yourself on what the AP African American studies class will be discussing through the school year. And everything Ron said is a lie! Dude just pulled lies out of his butt.
Go to courts ? the people in the courts are on his side
I would think this kind of crap can't be enforceable.
@@angelainamarie9656 We shall see. Three students are suing. Kids should not be crippled educationally. Some people want to be competitive with the rest of the country and world.
Of course Queer Theory and LGBTQ history are essential parts of African American Studies. Many important African-American figures have been LGBTQ: James Baldwin, Lorraine Hansberry, Bayard Rustin, Langston Hughes, Audre Lorde, Alice Walker, Marsha P. Johnson, etc. Many of those have also been important in LGBTQ history and studies. Intersectionality is an indisputable and obvious fact here.
No no no, you're using logic and reasoning. Republicucks only care about their feelings
@@persephonekajira7269, I stand corrected.
Intersectionality is probably a forbidden word to use in Florida schools too.
I was joking when I said intersectionality was a forbidden word, but then later in the video DeSantis explicitly objected to it.
This, and how many African cultures before colonization had gender-expansive identities. Most Indigenous cultures reject binaries, with some individuals in their social groups performing tasks, behaving, and socializing in ways that would reject what our society would call gender norms. The "death" of culture where people in the tribes could deviate traditional norms associated with their assigned gender at birth has much to do with colonization, and their enforcement of binary gender norms.
The alphabet is up in the background of that 10th grade class because it's Florida.
Bless this man with algorithmic gains. Amen.
Ron would think a backpack bill is a great idea, where the student gets an allotted amount of money to take to any school the student chooses to attend, including homeschooling. What is King Ron going to do when the student chooses to purchase that course online with their "Backpack" money?
You seem to basically be describing a school choice bills, which let people take the public school money that would have been used to educate their child and take it to a private school and use it to pay part of what is usually a higher bill.
I don't really have the space to get into the details of why this is a problem, but these bills are designed to destroy public education as we know it by robbing public school systems of funding.
Diverting money from public education is exactly what does DeSantis wants to do.
Basically, we've come to the point where the GOP knows that an educated populace will not vote for them so they're trying to destroy the schools in this country to ensure voters in the future.
It will always astonish me that the party that espouses small government and individual freedoms continually uses their power in the government to limit individual freedoms.
Give Ron a break... he just wants to insure that his kids and every other kid in Florida grows up to be as IGNORANT and RACIST as he is.
Isn't it amazing. Put them all in a room together and 💥💥
That party also had always been about fiscal conservatism. Now look at them, they waste so much of our money!
@@lovesallanimals9948 did you actually suggest murder?? TH-cam needs to remove your account.
@@davidthedeaf ii didn't suggest anything how you choose to read it is your problem
Here to fight the algorithm!
The reason DeSantis is doing this: He has negative-charisma that makes people dislike him the more they hear him speak and needs anything he can get to be president.
I don’t think he will ever be president
All rw talking points = education
Everything else = Indoctrination
deathsantis NEEDS TO GO!!!!!! WHO THE HELL
ARE YOU????? YOU GOT TO MUCH POWER!!
I think he threatens the judges when he does these horrific evil laws. Freedom my butt!! Florida is on the opposite end!
It's actually scary if he gets by with this!
They don't want intellectually gifted students to know about prejudice in our perfect society....because they will become effective activists as part of their lives.
And they won't vote for the likes of DeSantis
He’s such a Monster
A special bastard needs to be appointed to watch Ron commit crimes
The 'cancel culture' opponent out cancelling again...
As a Floridian, I find this horrific. Sadly, even though many in Florida may not agree, they still voted for DeSantis. Many Dems also chose not to vote due to dislike for Crist. Florida politics is truly messed up, and the result is DeSantis.
Florida literally gained power in the federal government due to desantis…. Cope harder
"That's the wrong side of my own personal agenda, so I'm going to ban it". What a joke.
Black history and LGBTQIA+ history, at least in the United States, is rather intertwined. It's entirely appropriate, and I would even say necessary, to teach at least the relevant details about one group in a course about the other.
“The education state” 😂
Yeah I know LolololololololoL, we'll be the uneducated state
Just wanted you to know that you’re back in my feed after being gone for about two weeks. Followed your request and it worked 👍
"Now who would say that an important part of black history is queer theory?"
Queer black people. Queer black people would.
This is not new. The cycles continues.
Wonder if any Florida College students are studying teacher education anymore????? Not a field too many would want to be dictated to by the Florida Government.
Florida doesnt want teachers, they want babysitters.
Florida hires people to teach K-12 that do not hold a teaching certification and previously were deemed unqualified. The extreme teacher shortage that DeSantis help create with his hate rhetoric.
@@whyamimrpink78 Did you forget that online schools were the plan for COVID? That's what the entire nation did and after return to in-person schooling, it is statistically THE Right Wing Extremist and ultra conservatives that are keeping their children in Home School largely because of culture wars and Trumpism. You should practice your research skills before trolling.
@@whyamimrpink78 The Dems voted a package which gave free internet and low cost internet to students and all low income. Infact that program is still in place. Some have it with their free phone service while others use another wifi device.
Trump's education secretary Betsy DeVos is still on a national campaign. "to dismantle the public education school system" in favor of privitazation called a scholarship or voucher program. Privitazation has the "benefit of fiscal responsibility" as the voucher or scholarship is not intended to pay the full tuition. So privatization is a discount for those that can afford to pay OR qualify for a loan. Enter how the DeVos family made part of its fortune: financing school loans. Oh, and by the way, No Child Left Behind was a Republican program. Unfortunately, it left far more children behind although it did add prek and K into the system, it broke down and failed afterwards.
@@whyamimrpink78 Actually, state by state the voucher system is being passed. You are NOT keeping up with the GOP agenda which is the push to privitize SSI, Medicare, Medicaid and the Public Education System. More corporate pie for more greedy legislation fingers. YES, the Federal Government may legislate this.
I shudder watching this, then shudder again thinking that there is some possibility of this person running for president.
For AP history? That’s got to be at least 16-year-olds, queer theory is totally appropriate. It’s a college-level course.
You're the stuff, David.
Thanks David. Appreciate your show
The most credible and watchable youtube channel!! Happy to help.
Funny how when I was in school, I or my parents didn't feel there was an agenda.
"Conservativism" has always been a euphemism for sadism
We should be teaching our kids how to question not how to think. Answers dont lead you to the truth, only questions can do that.
“Florida [education] standards” 😂
Ok Ron… lol
Hope Florida gets its act together... not holding my breath
A recent national poll found that 20% of seniors in most states felt they were at serious risk for homelessness. Most states. Florida's seniors were 80% seriously concerned about their risk for homelessness. Yet, the Florida seniors are part of that wider swath of white Christian Nationalist that put and kept DeSantis in office.
Enh. It'll be underwater in about 20 years, so just let it fester.
I have three kids at a hard time in Florida schools the classes are overcrowded in Florida schools on some of the schools choose the people with money and leave the kids without money behind I think the schools are unfair
Ironically, LGBT people can be left, right, or center. How much did Marx or Mao have to say about LGBT issues? Republicans seem to be quite invested in the narrative that sexual orientation and political party have some direct relationship, but they just don't.
Even funnier is Desantis getting triggered by _intersectionality,_ which is literally just a name for the effects of being in multiple demographics.
I believe he thinks intersectionality is another kind of sexual orientation?
@@drock9009 - He knows that the term is used in gender studies and social justice, so it symbolizes those people for him.
But it doesn't only apply to marginal people. Desantis, for example: is a man, wealthy, and a politician. So that intersectional identity can be used to infer aspects of his life. Some of this is just basic statistics. He's just cranky because "the wrong people" are looking at data and drawing conclusions. That's quite telling!
well, on the bright side, the worse the education in florida, the more "florida man" the rest of the country gets. and i gotta say, "florida man" *_is_* highly entertaining. : D
I'm sorry, but shouldn't that sign on Ron DeSatan's podium say "The Re-Education State"?
Goddamn fascist. 🤬
It is completely ridicules that DeSantis is able to ban a class studying black history
Where does it say studying black history is banned?
Advanced placement is just another gateway to less student debt...duh. 🙄
I'm so glad I don't live any where near this man's state.
thank you for breaking this down for me. I am so confused of what is going on.
what's going on is leftists for more than 100yrs have an AGENDA to infiltrate the education system. they've had the universities for a long time. now they want the high schools and everything else. david is one of them(a slave and disciple of left wing ideology).
DeSantis is sick.
He's pompous!
Classic Ron DeSantis L
I'm glad Florida is going to sink in the future.
What's going to happen if DeSantis decides he doesn't like blondes, or left-handed people, or used-car sales people or the color green?
I thank universe every day that it allowed me to live as far as I can be from US
Dave, really appreciate your content and commentary - hope this helps with the pesky algorithm - PS, I live in Florida and have to live under the DeSantis insane dictatorship (we are the freest state in the union, as long as we follow his variable rules) - pray for me
His excuse is laughable at best, racist and homophobic at worst.
Ron needs to provide a definition of indoctrination and provide a good example. Bet he can't
He can get away with shit like this in ultra red Florida. If he plans to run for president, i doubt this sort of thing would win him a majority of the population. Or at least I hope so.
That's what I thought about Trump in 2016
BRILLANT show as always never disappoints
DeSantis is seriously dangerous...he's just as big of an Authoritarian as Trump, but he's smarter and more capable.
What a non-issue, insignificant thing for a governor to get involved in.
It's astounding how much they love and defend freedom of speech until someone is saying something they don't agree with.
It is amazing how h onkies continually say they wanna be taught how not to be racist against black people. Yet you h onkys literally deny us teaching our own black history. We are sick of you h onkys telling us what our history, present etc is. You h onkys are not black so stop speaking on us.
commenting for the algorithm. keep up the good work!
"Teaching the facts and HOW TO THINK".
Yeah, he wants to teach kids how to think, but doesn't have an agenda.
Queer theory is an insult! Im not gay because of social and cultural contracted concepts. Nothing made me gay, nothing made others straight, its just how we are, blimey!
End bigotry.
Great to see they're covering higher mathematical concepts in this classroom.
Stay out of the educational system. No wonder the education in America is one if the lowest in the world
@@whyamimrpink78 simple facts according the world census data...just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not true.
But I get how an American has no concept of other countries...do you, little troll.
@@whyamimrpink78 wow...typical American doesn't understand what they're talking about.
But I'd expect nothing better from a conservative troll...I don't even let conservatives live on my street.
@@whyamimrpink78 why would I try to speak reason, to a conservative?
@@whyamimrpink78 nice false equivalency there. One side closing schools to keep kids safe from disease, and the other trying to shut down schools abilities to actually teach kids things they should know.
Good job little idiot. Thanks for the laugh.
@@whyamimrpink78 that's too stupid to take seriously, try again special needs. 🙄 I suppose you also think the millions dead from covid is just a "conspiracy" too?
Typical conservative...
"The education state" 🤡🎪🤡
When are we going to stop this kind of racist crap 😒? We need to get back to getting rid of these type of people being able to make rules for our future leaders? IT TOOK TOO LONG TO STOP JIM CROW LAWS/RACISTS RULES TO GO BACK!!!
Wtf????
DeSatan
Love your channel David, keep up the good work.
Florida: The Adult Education State.
It AP African American Studies, an interdisciplinary course which includes history and literature. It is important to note this as some people are under the impression that this would fully replace required US history classes. It's likely most schools that eventually choose to offer this, would probably consider it an elective.
@@jeffnduran That sounds fine to me. You should contact the College Board and maybe some professors of those subjects. New AP courses take some time and the effort subject matter experts to get developed. Best of luck to you.
@@jeffnduran a quick search on the AP website shows they have AP European History, AP Chinese Language and Culture (same for French, German, Italian, Japanese, Spanish). So yeah…it’s covered…
I haven't seen you on my feed for a while, hope this helps. Also I don't like Ron Desantis and this was scary to watch. And now rogue pythons are not the only reason to stay away from Florida.
I find it fascinating that he can stand up there and say that this AP class has a political agenda behind it's content, then in the same breath use his political agenda to stop information from being learned. It's just embarrassing at this point that our nation has become so numb to this type of behavior, that we don't even recognize the hypocrisy anymore.
Why is gender theory, and queer theory part of black history? The youth are graduating with very low scores, they aren't reading a grade level. The couldn't solve a basic math problem. Thankfully this is not a mandatory class, not t much of a benefit to students .
I'm a gay Democrat. But even I know this course was off. The whole chapter on Intersectionality and Queer Theory maybe topics for advanced African American Studies courses. But it didn't seem super appropriate for an intro course. Especially not for high school AP.
I was talking about intersectionality first in an upper collegiate Marxist political philosophy course. And even at that point, it seemed hotly contested.
At this level, the student should be learning about the foundational stuff first. MLK, Civil Rights Act, etc. They could even learn about Bayard Rustin if they want to teach them about particular gay and black civil rights icons. But that's not what this AP course was offering.
"DeSatan's agenda." The *supreme* Pusher Man.
"Florida, the education state"
🤣
As far as Black history including queer history... well sure it does. There were great black authors who were gay. It is indeed relevant and deserves to be in a AP class.
The cowboy hat in the front row tells it all