UNHINGED: Republicans Want to "Phase Out" Electric Cars
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- -- Multiple states are waging war on electric vehicles, attempting to "phase out" or outright ban sales of electric vehicles
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If these Republicans had been alive in 1905, they would have been in favor of preserving the horse and buggy, and banning the automobile.
As long as horse breeders and buggy makers contributed to their election campaigns.
Well they certainly are full of the tail pipe emissions of horses
No shit!🤦♂️
@@danieldickson8591 and there is plenty of Ivermectin lol.
They were. They claimed that the cows in the fields next to roads would stop giving milk because of the noise from ICE engines (which didn't have mufflers at the time).
Saving the fossil fuel industry is way more important than saving humanity, right? DANG!!!
humanity will be just fine
The industry is dying anyway. The world is moving on, but as long as rich old men get theirs, they don't care what they leave behind for the rest of us.
I dunno about saving humanity.
We are resilient and highly adaptable.
Humanity will survive.
It's everything else I'd worry about.
ExxonMobil ,Occidental and Chevron have paid to these people's campaign kitties.
Yeah,hard to believe how uninformed people are.
Phase out?! We've barely phased them in!!
😄 🎯
It's posturing.
That industry in those states will fall apart as the parts production elsewhere becomes entirely dependent on the EV only industry.
No one is going to make components just for the limited ICE auto sales in those republican states which are low population as it is and cannot support a large auto industry.
Effectively it will just force people to buy their EVs from out of state, and then the states will just tax them for it.
Republicans are slow to catch up.
They sure do love the free market, don’t they?
LOL, if you only knew... Most pleasure themselves to ruining the planet OR to Former Pumpkinhead-in-Chief ceiliing posters...
@@Wolverines77 I got a little bit of sick in the back of my throat when I read that last bit 😂🤢😂
They are in the pockets of big oil donors.
They love the free market just about as much as everyone else it would appear.
Diesel engine and fuel technology isn't static and pollutes as much as electric cars do as well. Yet everyone hates on diesels. What happens when everything goes pop?
If America was really pro-free market then they would remove all their international tariffs or introduce national carbon pricing.
@@christinavuyk2026 That was the motive of the comment. It is how I feel having to overhear die hard Re"thug"licans everywhere I go. Gun nuts, driving HUGE gas guzzlers for no other reason than it is "cool", complete failure of Constitutional understanding and on and on. I admit Iwas raised in a military family that always leaned Republican. Since the creationof "The Tea Party" I have just been sickened to my core by the inexplicable stupidity across the beadth of the Right. I will never move all the way to the left, but they sure as hell make more sense...
Poor Elon Musk, right after he went Full-Right. 😢
well he can make electric fans instead.
Who didn't see this coming... oh right, everybody. 🤣
@@Shinycelebi Fans can be profitable
He doesn't care much about electric cars anymore. His only interest now is in spreading right wing propaganda. He's gone full stupid.
Imagine states banning automobiles back in 1905, claiming that it’s putting horse traders out of business
Some places did ..
@@danrynazewski4151 well, they didn’t hold out for too long. How’s the old saying goes you can’t hold back progress forever.
The world would’ve been in a lot better shape had that happened
@@chrisnewman7281 I don't think a state did but town colleges etc plus more not wanting to get run over.. I laugh at how people fight progress it's going to come might as well use it ..
Ever since cars my family's horse shoe business has been failing.
Those fossil-fuel jobs will be gone in another generation. If Wyoming doesn't diversify their economy now, it's facing massive job losses in the future. But that isn't a simple talking point for electioneering today.
Wyoming has like 1 million people, most of them just want to be a fetal position waiting for the end. End to what? Even they don't really know.
@@garrycole9187 Wyoming needs to succeed from the Union! No federal $$$ would have them crying just like if TX did likewise!
Wyoming is the least populous state, most likely because they've always had too small of a job market. I struggle to see why the statewide powers-that-be *couldn't* invest in a better one.
Notice the Putin -like economic thinking.
Wyoming is an amazing state though. Outside of the families who seem to build a new house with every generation they birth and just abandon the old ones. It's one of the last states that you can actually be free to do what you want unimpeded.
I have a million people living within 20 square miles of me and I can tell you the level of disturbing shit far exceeds anything that could happen in Wyoming, including banning EVs (which they didn't, its symbolic - symbolic of the states collective ignorance.)
I bought my EV two months ago, but since I don’t think DeSantis will let Wyoming outdo him, I expect to be in prison for owning it by the end of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Wyoming Republicans are crazy!! Thanks for the great 👍 work that you do David, Love your show!!!🤗😎🙏🐬
Aren't they all?
All 150 ppl that live in that shit hole state
@@lindseybrownshe-her3087 all of them
"Wyoming Republicans are crazy!!" ....
no more so than TexASS Republicans
It is all that space and all they can do is hump goats.
The GOP's line of reasoning, to give it more credit than it's due, brings to mind the old Robin Williams line 'Reality: What a concept!' Climate change is real and it threatens us all. But who cares as long as there's a buck to be made? SMH
Electric vehicles won't mitigate global warming/climate change. It's sleight of hand. Sure they eliminate point source emissions. They simply shift it to electric power generating plants, most of which are coal or natural gas burning. Fossil fuels, hydrocarbons, ya know? It's all a wash.
Have you ever googled the percent of extinct species and wondered how that happens. (Hint: dum dums doing dum dum stuff daily - all shapes, sizes, species)
@@user-account-not-found Dums dums is much too kind an adjective for these people. I just found out that my beloved Nutella is full of palm oil-second ingredient in it! Yet these dum dums as you call them destroy trees and natural habitat for countless species and because it makes them rich, they don’t care. No more palm oil.
Hard to believe that Republicans would go against EVs when
Republican Congressman George Satnos got a Nobel prize for inventing them.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Didn’t he create the Nobel Prize too?
@@flipnotrab Yes, that along with electricity.
@@flipnotrab Actually, he is called George Alfred Nobel Santos and he invented dynamite and the Nobel Prize was instituted in his memory after his death. Wait...
I thought Santos invented solar panels. I didn't know he invented EV's too.
The world will move on without America they're coming rather we want them to or not !
They are already here. In 2022, 10% of the cars sold globally were EVs. In 2018, the global average was only 2%. We've 5x'd in four years. In December, Germany was at 55% EVs, China was in the 30% range, UK was at 39.4%, Norway in the mid-80% range... US are lagging (just under 6%), but will catch up now that there is the IRA.
'Moronica (the country that thinks it's the best in the world) lags behind other countries on so many levels!
To underline how backwards the US is looking - in 7 years just, only electric cars will be sold in the UK
in 2030 no more new fossil cars will be allowed to be sold within the EU
The last gasp of a dying industry. They managed to kill EV's in 2001, but they can't avoid change. if they were smart, they would invest in these vehicles. Stopping them will not be possible.
It's not tha auto industry at all.
It's the oil billionaires seeking to maximise their profits before electrification of transport and renewable make oil redundant outside of petrochemical uses.
The auto industry is already moving towards EVs, albeit at an overall slower pace than Tesla's head on rush which is their entire business is EVs.
Every major auto manufacturer conglomerate has plans in motion for the gradual switch to EVs, some are just better placed than others - Tesla would be nowhere at all without a decade of govmt subsidies on EV production propping up their none existent sales in the first years.
Yep, a big thank you to Elon Musk and Tesla for forcing legacy automakers to start making EVs. Oh, right, all the faux progressives hate Elon Musk for doing way way more to fight climate change than anyone else alive...
@@mnomadvfx Toyota is moving away from full EV adoption, likely because of the ability to source materials for batteries. The industry looks to be moving to hybrid and hydrogen in the future. ICE is here to stay though being applied differently.
Same way they don't support legalizing cannabis but invest in it.
Everyone's been saying this is a last gasp of oil for DECADES. I don't believe it for a second. Oil would rather actually kill everyone on earth rather then let anything replace it. And they have the power to make that happen.
I don't believe anything can take them down short of an actual government intervention. And that would require a revolution in the government. Witch definitely can't happen.
If only we could "Phase out" Republicans.
WELL REGAIN AND BUSH DIDN'T PIT HATE AND DIVISION OR TRY TO KILL OFF THE ELDERLY! THEY HAD EMPATHY FOR IMMIGRANTS ALSO. AS NORMAL CHRISTIANS! AMERICA HAD A HONORABLE STANDING WITH RESPECT AS LEADERS BEFORE TRUMP CAME TO WASHINGTON SPEWING ONGOING BS NONSTOP FOR 6 YEARS STRAIGHT. REPUBLICANS BACKED TRUMP'S ONGOING BS AND CONTINUE PLAYING POLITICAL GAMES!
They're slowly phasing themselves out and being replaced with centrist Dems
Totally agree.
They can be phased out. At the ballet box. But when the likes of Our George are voted in I wonder if it will happen.
It's called voting them out. The root issue is voters stupid enough to keep them in office
Descendants of the "get a horse" crowd 🤣
Barely descendants in some cases.
Chuck Grassley is old enough to remember when cars were not nearly as common as they are today.
Why don't you go to Africa and sacrifice your life so someone can have an EV. Go work the Cobalt Mines with the dying children there who make 1 dollar a week.
@@mnomadvfx He was born in '933. His 9-decade birthday is later this very year!
They define themselves solely by opposition.
During the 80s, my home city of Houston was recovering from a terrible recession due to the oil slump of the 70s. Rather than try to pass new resolutions and regulations to enshrine the energy companies, the city instead invested in attracting hospitals and doctors to make sure there's less dependence on the oil industry.
Ironically, Wyoming is pursuing. Venezuela's strategy of just doubling down on being a petrostate instead of diversifying. This won't end well for them.
I live in Austin, Texas pumps more oil than Wyoming but, we have more wind turbines and soon more solar farms than any other state. Also the biggest electric car factory in the country.
Especially coal. Wyoming has been pushing their coal through Washington State to export through their seaports to China, and Wash. doesn't want it.
If Republicans had their way we'd all be living in caves
No, just the women and minorities. You know, like the good old days and good old boys “club” was.
While they live in the forests and collect rent from the cave dwellers.
Better than polluting the world right?
Make sure that Wyoming doesn’t get funding for electric vehicles and the charging stations until they change their tune
Wyoming has already refused funding for electric vehicle infrastructure
That's a way to discourage EVs.
Tax the crap out of ICE vehicles and heavily subsidize EVs. See how long those states can sustain their position.
The cobalt issue is overblown. Most of it comes as a byproduct of nickel and copper mining, only a small percentage is hand dug on a small scale. Cobalt is also used in oil refining but for some reason EV critics never seem concerned about that.
Exactly. I'd be more concerned about world lithium supplies.
@@EdricLysharae No reason to be, plenty of untapped lithium resources around the world.
@@JRP3 True, but considering the increased demand there will be when the majority of vehicles have electric drives, and a general increase in demand for rechargeable batteries, there is an estimated 70 years of remaining economically-viable lithium reserves. I hope other battery chemistries will become mainstream before then, but I don't like betting on my hopes either.
@@EdricLysharae Lithium can be recycled and it's also in sea water. The likely increase in desalination plants could provide more concentrated brines from which to extract lithium. New technologies can make previously uneconomical sources more cost effective.
@@JRP3, the desalination plants is a good point. Considering how much need there will be in the future for potable water, I'm hoping that plants like that can act as an energy sink to absorb the intermittent, excess renewable energy that will occasionally hit the grid. Combine that with gravitational energy storage and I bet we'll get close to having 85%+ of our energy coming from renewables, with nuclear helping with the base load.
No car company will build ICE cars just for Wyoming, so if production is shifted towards EVs (because ICE cars are banned elsewhere), people in Wyoming will have a hard time to find a new vehicle, assuming this stupid law still exists in 2035.
Well I guess they can walk then huh!!
We can sell them our old gas cars for parts so the handful of people there can drive them from their remaining wells.
Forget the cars. The fossil-fuel industry jobs they claim to be protecting will be gone in twenty years. Wyoming is selling its children's future to protect its greed today.
They could probably import them from Russia and maybe china but later they would shift to the Cuban model 😂
@@laurameans7904 Horse carriages might also be an option for them.
The first time they block one of the big car companies from selling their eclectic vehicles, expect a major lawsuit. That will cost the state millions.
Republican luddites will want coal fired cars and trucks next.
I'm surprised they're not calling for an end to gas-powered engines so they can resurrect horses and buggy whips.
I think the luddites were workers trying to protect their jobs that were becoming outdated because of industrialization. These dudes just want to line their pockets with corporate money.
@@ajs11201 Conservatism: where you move forward by moving backwards! 🧐 🧐 🧐 🤣
Steam is the way 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
This isn't just about supporting the oil industry, it's also revenge politics.
Yep. It's basically a "screw you" to the Biden administration and the governor of California.
I thought the GOP was so pro-business and pro free market. Do they think the automakers are rushing to make so many electric vehicles because they have become "woke" or to do some virtue signaling? No, they're doing it because they're going to make a lot of money making them.
i have a good friend who owns a EV racecar and lives in the state. he's gonna love this. quite literally his entire career is built around EV's and EV performance.
So he chose to have a career based on the backs of dying children. What a great person.
@@pecquet-dubalaix8288 you're clearly mentally handicapped and there are numerous quotes I could put here about arguing with an idiot. Seek help though for real.
@@knolsey Yea, I'm the Idiot. ok.
@@pecquet-dubalaix8288 correct. You're blaming a post capitalist societies shortcomings on those who run small businesses just to survive. You have the same understanding of the world as a pigeon.
@@knolsey Just Search.... Children dying in Cobalt Mines.... You have a blind eye to Big Companies getting rich off of dying Children.
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Elon Musk- "Vote Republican".
🤣
Guy is voting for a party that is opposed to his industry.
Is that all he said, is this an oversimplified view?
@@LionheartLivin Sounds like you are implying he said more, besides all the insane conspiracies he pushes. Why didn't you include those thoughts in your comment?
Elon Musk told people to vote Republican because he knows the Republican party will bend/break the rules in his favor so he can make even more money. Maybe he actually believes some of the crazy stuff he says, or maybe it is all just lies, but he certainly pushes his agenda to favor his business(usually in the detriment of other people, including those that work for him...)
To bad the car industry follows what Cali does cause it's the most populated state, they are not going to waste their time and money making 2 versions on the least populated state
IIRC, around 20 states currently follow the CARB (California Air Resources Board) standards for auto emissions now, so yes, it is exceptionally pointless for Wyoming to do this.
Wyoming can just and cry and NEVER CROSS THE STATE LINES! The other states don't want to taint them!
Republicans, shouldn’t the market be allowed to sort it out? Consumers increasingly voluntarily want to own electric cars.
what's wyoming going to do when ALL of the major car companies stop making gas powered vehicles on their own because that is actually what the people want??? also, it's pretty sunny and windy in wyoming and there's a lot of land there, so maybe you go that direction instead of beating a dead horse?
They have begun making electric cars and hybrids
Speaking of horses....I'm surprised Republicans aren't trying to bring back horse-drawn carriages.
@@ajs11201 that might be the next move to keep the horse industry strong in wyoming!!!
Wyoming have less people in the entire state than most even moderate sized cities and a lot of open spaces, so they'll probably turn the state to a wildlife refuge and suck up that federal money, like maybe 600 thousand actually humans, we'll miss them but frankly not much.
Also EVs are way cheaper to operate and maintain so Wyoming citizens will suffer economically
Yeah, I guess my electric bills are a little bit higher but not buying gas more than makes up for it.
Very well summarized and on point.
I remember the days when battery hand tools first came out, charge didn't last, batteries degraded quickly, motors didn't last, they where under powered, then technology made quick gigantic leaps which made mains powered tools obsolete. The same thing will happen to electric vehicles, we are still in the early days of development. I still think standardised hot battery swapping needs become a reality.
Swapping out a battery is likely to take almost as much time as it currently takes to charge a Tesla at a super charger. For Teslas they are pretty much there as far as practicality what with their network of super chargers. I've driven my Model 3 over 800 miles a day, on the road for the same amount of time as it takes for an ICE vehicle to cover that distance.
Remember, cobalt is used in the steal industry, the petroleum industry (refining process to produce low sulphur fuels.) and some Li-Ion batteries (Here’s why battery manufacturers like Samsung and Panasonic and car makers like Tesla are embracing cobalt-free batteries…)🤔
The 'steal' industry was Trump's.
"Steal industry" LOL
Cobalt is not used in all of the steel industry, only for limited alloys, and it's used for many other metal alloys besides.
It's also being targeted by Intel for replacing copper data and power wiring inside microchips.
Yep, my Tesla Model 3 rwd has LFP batteries. No cobalt or nickel in them.
Republicans do not care about anything but maintaining the stagnant toxic situation
As patriots we need to protect our country and rest of the world; specially whe USA is the country contributing the most to the deterioration of our environment
Your channel is great
I am pretty sure that would just be a phase out of new vehicle sales as by 2035 no manufacturers will be making any new ICE vehicles
Another argument is that electricity in the U.S. is made right here in the U.S. When you use electric, you support American jobs, not foreign oil!
And if you live in N. California, as I do, you may be asking "how tf do you (PG&E) plan on guaranteeing that my toaster will work on a hot, windy day...let alone millions of new EV's taxing the grid"?
@@sharon94503 If there's a will there's a way.
As if cobalt mining and lithium mining and forever wars are so much better for the planet.
@@saugeyesyou must not live here - if you did you'd understand.
@@sharon94503 So your saying its impossible to fix an electric grid?
Love your channel, David!
DP, I have been in the auto repair business for decades owning two locations. The auto manufactures are putting a lot of money and engineering into this technology. Talking directly to the owners of EV's the problem is battery degradation. The auto parts industry is very good at remanufacturing and I believe they will do so with the batteries. As you mentioned the problem is the materials to build batteries. In the future I believe there will be just one platform that the different manufactures will put their bodies on.
You have seen battery degradation? I had my Bolt battery swapped at 110k, there was zero degradation. Have you heard of vehicles losing range?
@@augsu Yes
@@matthewgraham2546 really? What vehicles? I'd be really interested as I haven't seen any evidence of degradation from LG cells or the 18650s, and an early Hyundai was tested with no degradation. Was this anecdotal?
@@augsu VW and Hyundai. Both driven at Interstate speeds in Florida running over 85 MPH for over an hour. Google has a good explanation of BD. I never had a Bolt in either shop.
@@matthewgraham2546 Thanks for the reply, just to be clear, do you mean that driving in those conditions reduced range? or those conditions over a long term damaged the battery causing degradation?
When will Americans realize the country is at the complete mercy of corporations at this point ?
There is a lot of context missing when people talk about the issue of mining for electric vehicles: 1) ICE vehicles use MORE cobalt (and it's also used in oil refining); even the average laptop battery contains more cobalt than an EV. 2) EVs are gradually moving AWAY from battery chemistries which rely on cobalt, such as LFP (lithium iron phosphate), making it an increasingly moot point. 3) ICE proponents in particular like to pretend all the metal in an engine block magics its way into existence (as opposed to ALSO being mined from the earth).
Our electric vehicle technology will appear very primitive indeed to future humans who will have resolved many of the technical issues bothering us today. That’s if humanity survives the stupidity of our time.
@@Alltime2050 True.
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I go a step further than drive electric. I get around by bicycle or walking. It's the greenest way to travel. It's also sad that the vast majority could do this and yet so few do.
If you ride a bike in my town a cop will pull you aside and check for drugs.
I did too when I lived in a walkable Coastal town. But in most U.S. cities everything is simply built too far apart.
I go one better than that. I lie in bed and wait to die. Only consuming air so as not to promote the transportation of goods. 🙂
I think the average American is too fat to ride around in a bike or walk long distances 🤣
And of course once these vehicles start to become rare as they are phased out of production due to regulations elsewhere, the people of Wyoming will be more than happy to be paying a hefty premium to keep buying their beloved gasoline cars. Or did perhaps someone not think this through?
Republicans never think anything through. They never think at all.
Think is the key word. They don't do much of that! 😂
Maybe Republicans can pass a law requiring all children to take up smoking by their 5th birthday in order to show how American they are or else they lose their citizenship and ICE gets to deal with them.
Glad I don’t live in Wyoming. Are they going to stop them at the border?
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Because we love evs so much here, let's put a positive spin on cobalt mining.... Cobalt mining, teaching little Nigerian children a strong hearty work ethic since 1973. Or Cobalt mining, who cares what horrors it unleashes as long as it's not here.
The answer isn't evs. It's not fossil fuels. It might be hydrogen.
@@Luke-kv6qf Ah, that nugget, I bet you know that Cobalt is used up in the processing of Diesel and Gas and is 100% recyclable in EV batteries.
And did you know that none of the battery manufacturers buy Cobalt from those sources, the oil refineries do.
You do know that, don't you?
FYI: LfP batteries (lithium iron phosphate) have no cobalt.
Thinking about a large lithium mine in Canada - also tearing up the turf
@@sandrawamsley3876 Lots of lithium iron and nickle in Canada. It's poised to do well in the EV transition
@@sandrawamsley3876 Farming tears up the turf and chemicals are added constantly.
@@BTSflyer Not all of agriculture digs into the soil, btw, nor chemicals added. With all due respect to Canada, pit mining anywhere destroys the land and the water courses underneath. So does oil drilling and fracking. Don't know how many thousand years it would take to restore ground that retains moisture and absorbs heat along with the covering vegetation that does the same. Humans seem determined to ruin everything they touch.
@@sandrawamsley3876 We do know that emissions from autos are quickly heating the atmosphere. Yes there are downsides to batteries but there is a lot more downside to using ICE cars From drilling to refining to exhaust for ICE vehicles, it is all bad news.
It's like the banning of abortion; just trying to go back in time for some reason. I wouldn't be surprised if this also has religious reasons (or religion will be used at some stage, because religious views are magically exempt from logic and don't require a sane defence).
Jesus didn’t drive an EV therefore cancel Teslas?
you're right about the religious angle. Earth is a realm of their devil, Earth's well-being is irrelevant.
I always like to point folks to the definition of faith: "strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof"
Rather than proof. 'Nuff said. 😁
@@Rjsjrjsjrjsj faith is an absolute trust without the requirement for evidence. They can never mount a decent argument against that, only "my personal experience" - which of course is the same evidence as the mental hospital patients whose views are also incompatible with reality.
It has nothing to do with religion. It's merely a response to the Oregon and California resolutions.
Not all Republicans are Christians, religious, and/or Maga. Please understand that.
They will adjust. I remember when people we’re fighting against seat belt laws and smoking indoors. The rear of the plane was the smoking section, it sounds stupid now. They adjusted.
REPUBLICANS REINSTATED SMOKING IN THE CAPITOL BUILDING ALREADY. THEY HAVE NO CONCERN FOR OTHERS HEALTH! THIS WILL OPEN DOORS FOR OTHERS!
Only now, they're trying to bring smoking indoors _back._ And you can be damn sure they'll go after seat belts next.
@@KesselRunner606 I think smoking dens should be appropriate for different sections, different smoke. Hookah, cannabis, cigars, cigarettes; choose your poison and "hang out" like they do for the drinking poison, alcohol. It's a thought; have like-minded people socialize. I doubt they'll be "bar brawls" in a smoking den 🤔
The GOP doesn't adjust, they fight progress. Bringing smoking back to congress is only one example of their stupidity.
@@Chihuahualover1765 MAYBE BECAUSE ALL PEOPLE ARE THERE TO SMOKE .I HATE PAYING FOR PRICEY FOOD IN SMOKE FAILED SETTING. I HOPE SMOKING DOESN'T COME BACK IN ALL PLACES!
GOP are all like "WE LOVE THE FREE MARKET, WE LOVE THE FREE MARKET!!!"......except when they're not.
Thanks for the federal tax credit and Telsa slashing its prices make an electric vehicle affordable for me. And I will order one this year.
Write a letter to that dying child in The Cobalt Mines, give him a good reason why you need an EV and ask his forgiveness.
We'd be much better off .....if we "Phased out " the Republican party .!!!!
They try to make the dumbest points possible and then work backwards to try and justify
☝I wish they would make up their mind. For months while Louie Degerm the PMG has been and still is sabatoging the post office,, thats all he's been tooting his horn about, how he wants to phase out all the current gasoline powered vehicles and spend millions on electric vehicles. 🤦♂️
Dear David, What about hybrid cars and trucks? If someone has to travel long distances and/or they live in an area with winters that get temperatures of 20 to 50 below zero, an electric car or truck, at this time, cannot do the job. I live in an area that, at present time, has no charging stations. Does someone have to carry a portable gas generator, so they can recharge the electric car? What did Forest Gump say, stupid is as stupid does? All electric cars and trucks are not the answer for everyone.
Your situation represents about 10% of the population of motor vehicle users.
There are major problems when it comes to hybrid vehicles. To get the simplest and cheapest out of the way, they still use gasoline, so it faces the same problems as everything else that relies on fossil fuels does - just ask Texas how they got the oil and natural gas flowing again during their winter freezes (spoiler: they didn't).
Okay, now more in-depth.
A hybrid's electrical system is largely the same as an EV's, so you are still getting the same problems EVs get, even the whole range thing, as some hybrids even come with plugs so that they can be charged like EVs. This is not even the biggest problem with hybrids.
So what exactly is the problem? You have TWO propulsion systems for your vehicle...in the same vehicle. Have you ever done work on your car's drive system, whether that car uses only an ICE or a hybrid system? Even the most basic things like an oil change or fluid check perfectly shows just how much space any drive system will take up. And that is just for ONE system. Try imagining that for two of them.
Whether you give with an ICE, an EV, or a hybrid, these drive systems force size and weight limits on you, regardless of any present regulations. You want power? Okay, make it bigger. You want it to better fit in your garage? Okay, make it smaller. Oh, it needs to be only this heavy or else it could damage roads or even itself? Okay, make it lighter. Every single car is a balancing act between performance (speed, haulage, passenger count, and/or whatever else you can think of), range, size, and weight, and finding even a decent balance between them is much harder than you think.
That last criteria, weight, is especially difficult. Heavier vehicles need more energy - and thus more fuel(s) - to move. This is why larger vehicles are always less fuel-efficient and get worse mileage than smaller ones - you will _never_ see an F-350 go further than a Prius. This is especially true for fuel. Have you ever carried a gallon of milk or even water any great distance with no kind of assistance whatsoever? Well, those same problems also affect cars.
For hybrids to counter the massive weight that having two drive systems bring, they have to make one or both of them smaller, which typically means less performance (at least in power). It is why hybrids always have smaller fuel tanks than an ICE car yet still get virtually identical ranges. That has been arguably the biggest hurdle for EVs, overcoming that weight-vs-range barrier, though they have made significant progress there, hence why more car makers are looking to making their own EVs.
This is not to say that hybrids are terrible vehicles. True, for sheer power, an ICE or even a modern EV work better, but hybrids, because they generally emphasize having lighter weights, will get you a lot more mileage, figuratively and literally. Sure, as I said, ranges are largely identical between the three types these days, but with the hybrid, you are getting more out of your fuel budget than any ICE ever will, and that is especially true if you increase your vehicle's size. Only in the smallest of cars can an ICE even beat a hybrid or an EV, but that is because that extremely small size and thus practically nonexistent weight means you can get rid of a lot of driving aids that are unnecessary in that such tiny vehicles, such as power steering. Basically, if the vehicle is too big to fit in a pickup truck bed, a hybrid system usually wins.
In fairness to the EV, the wide range of power options to provide the charge for it does mean that its fuel bill (because even EVs have one) will likely be far less than the others, but that initial cost of entry is still high and therefore still out of reach for most. That said, as far as reducing your fuel bill goes, a hybrid usually works best, and this is arguably their greatest strength. Granted, depending on how they were designed, a hybrid vehicle can still operate properly (though not necessarily fully) if one of their two driving systems fails for whatever reason, but that is highly dependent on the maker, as some hybrid vehicles are designed to effectively cease functioning should any critical part of either of their driving systems fail, which is fine for personal safety, but not exactly helpful to get it fixed, especially not if the failure occurs while on the road and now you find yourself unable to even get it off the road (that happened to me, so I needed a couple of volunteers to push me off the road - using their cars, no less, as doing it by hand was nowhere near strong enough - and end my blocking of traffic).
On the whole, EVs have the biggest advantages in fuel costs and even maintenance (electric motors break down a lot less often than mechanical engines - e.g. ICE), they have always had power that is at least comparable to ICEs going for them, and as far as ranges go, that has been more-or-less resolved, but as you point out, certain environments (usually cold ones) and a general lack of infrastructure continue to hold EVs back. Unfortunately, hybrids are not a solution - what they are is a stop-gap, a fill-in until a proper solution can be rolled out, which will be either further improvements in EVs (progress is being made on the temperature front, and the solution to infrastructure is kind of obvious, though the latter still faces the problem of how it is powered) or a whole new fuel that supplants fossil fuels. For the time being, though, you are right that EVs are not the answer for everyone, but they do have the potential to at least get close to it.
@@DavidRichardson153 Dear David, Thank you for all the information. I have been attempting to learn more about the new technologies for years. (The learning for me never ends.) NDB is a new technology that could solve the problem, if they get everything to work.
Back in the 70's, technology, was talked about, using nuclear power ( using a nuclear pellet), to give cars and trucks a lifetime fuel supply. I'm still waiting.
I know an engineer, that worked on a water powered engine. There was a device that would break down the water molecule and burn the hydrogen, with the waste product being oxygen and water vapor. The catch with this technology was, it needed an engine that would not rust.
A freight train uses electric motors (some of the most powerful in the world). Those electric motors are powered by diesel generators.
There are no easy answers.
Thank you again for all your information.
David, your channel is so informative and compelling.
Gas-powered vehicles are the incandescent light bulbs of the Auto industry, in that they are obsolete.
Well, unless you ask #45 Cheato, that is...
Incandescents are still relevant if you want bulbs that can be dimmed. Same with gas powered vehicles they’ll always have a use but as gasoline becomes more scarce EVs will dominate the market.
Watch out for the blue light emitting modern bulbs messing with your hormones 😮
@@paulspringwood7190 pretty much all modern LED bulbs are dimmable.
@@teeminator30 You get more exposure to blue light when you watch TV or play video games.
_"A conservative is someone who stands athwart history, yelling_ 'Stop!', _at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it.”_
*- William F. Buckley Jr.*
It’s funny how this conservative icon knew about the retrograde nature of his ideology but still supported it.
What happened to the Republican main go to theme, "let the free market decide"? Oh that's right only when it suits them.
I would love to have an electric vehicle. I live in rural western Canada. They haven’t made one yet that will handle the distances between charging stations and the cold winter weather. When they do. I’m all over it
If they had lived 100 years ago, they'd have stopped gasoline vehicles to support horse farmers.
And they've now allowed smoking cigs in the halls of Congress! loi if it weren't so sick.
That's like wanting to bring back out houses!
This shit's going to have to stop
They can go ahead with that but it’s not going to help them in the long run😂
We need other States to join in. We as a Country should never have an Industry which causes children to die.
@@pecquet-dubalaix8288 join in what ?
@@yankeesrule587 To join in on banning EV's.
@@pecquet-dubalaix8288 no one else in this country wants to go backwards. The EV industry "causes children to die" ?? Lol yea ok
@@yankeesrule587 Just Search.... Children dying in Cobalt Mines.... then press enter.
What’s the point of wealth from fossil fuels if you don’t have much of a planet left.
How is Elon feeling about that “vote republican” tween? 🥶😁🤣
Ya, the sourcing of oil is bad as well. Then the end product continues to emit pollution.
Its understandable. The whole state is less than half a million people
That’s why Wyoming banned road maps, people were using them to leave
It already is absurd and I'm already shaking my head and laughing at Wyoming Republicans.
Funny how they're trying to kill the EV industry when that's one of their greatest mouth piece's bread and butter
He must be a lousy tipper... 😼
That's simply asinine! Phase out electric cars. How about phase out idiotic lawmakers!
The question that must be asked is: Do these Republicans have their money invested in the fossil fuel industry? Is that the true reason they are proposing this?
There will be alot of money to be made on EVs....Republicans will follow eventually.
Putting more electric cars charging on the grid all at the same time(night) will do a lot to boost fossil fuel consumption. Since no one wants nuclear because NIMBY. Its almost as if there are no free lunches and everyone wants to run off the most inefficient ways to generate power and pretend they are saving the environment.
Most of the opposition to EVs comes from those heavily-invested in fossil fuels, or those who work for auto companies. There are 10s of millions of auto workers (and pensioners who depend on those old companies to survive). There's a lot of wishful thinking on the ICE-supporter side. Economics already dictated that EVs have won; most people just don't realize it yet.
@@AMortalDefiant Other than the power grid failing and people being unable to charge their cars like what happened a few months back in Europe and happens from time to time in California.
And the lack of charging infrastructure outside of the Tesla network. Good luck doing long trips getting 3-4 miles per hour recharged.
What I do know for certain is I’m sick of hearing a bunch of lies and watching the political posturing for alternative energy, specifically the promotion of Electric Vehicles (EVs). Our congressmen and women for years have been making policy for votes and are now promoting how clean and efficient EVs will be. This really hits home to me and is simply not true. The subsidies for this less green vehicle sickens me. The EV believers will continue to promote the false beliefs of the efficiency and green advantages of wind and solar power to power the grid for the increase in electricity needed for EVs.
Let’s review some facts: Currently the maximum efficiency of Solar Power is at 33% which currently we are only achieving 26%. For Wind Power the maximum efficiency is at 60% which we are currently achieving 45%. And there is no technology in sight that can increase that efficiency. The combination of wind and solar energy only makes up 3% of the world’s energy use. To use this energy in an EV, you must store the energy in a battery.
Here are some ugly facts about the batteries needed to operate an EV: One car battery weighs about a half ton. To make one half ton battery, you need to process about 250 tons of our earth’s materials. Currently, Tesla has the world’s largest car battery manufacturing facility. It would take 500 years of manufacturing from this factory to make enough batteries to store one day of the United States’ electrical needs. This helps explain why wind and solar only provide 3% of the world’s energy. And this is after 20 years of research and billions of dollars in subsidies.
Now, let’s talk about the environment and the impact the manufacturing of wind, solar and the batteries needed to store the energy: All of these are built from nonrenewable materials. For example, a 100-megawatt wind farm will power 75,000 homes but takes 30,000 tons of Iron Ore; 50,000 tons of concrete; and 900 tons of plastic to build. To get the same power from a solar farm you would need 150% more of Steel, Cement and Glass. Now, add the rare earth metals like Lithium, Cobalt, Copper, Iridium and Dysprosium needed for batteries. The current plans would require increasing the mining of these elements by up to 2000% of current production to fit the world’s needs. The mining of these metals will take place mostly in foreign countries and it’s alarming to note that some of these countries are hostile to America. In addition, the gold rush for the mining of these elements will surely bring ugly labor issues in underdeveloped areas of the world. That’s right, child labor and unsafe working conditions for most involved. Now, factor in the amount of conventional energy it will take to increase mining and manufacturing operations to this level. Also, let’s factor in the waste of worn-out wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries because all of these have short life spans. It’s off the chart. According to the International Renewable Energy Agency, by 2050, the waste from just these worn-out turbines, panels and batteries will double the amount of ALL WASTE currently in the world. That fact should scare the hell out of you!
Have we not learned from Europe who has heavily invested in wind and solar power combined with eliminating fossil fuel exploration? The lack of sunny days and less wind than predicted has led to a reduction in available power, and with no natural gas exploration allowed in many EU countries, they are reliant on Russia to keep their lights on and homes heated. The demand and shortage of supply has resulted in skyrocketing heating costs for the citizens of those countries. We are certainly headed in that direction if we continue on this path.
The lawmakers keep promoting these false beliefs for EVs along with wind and solar power. Somehow, we need to hold on and believe that intelligence will kick in. The cost to the environment for EVs and wind and solar power are immense. Our government continues promoting this technology before it’s ready and lying to us about its cleanliness. The facts are clear for hydrocarbons, that technology is making them easier and cleaner to use. Hydrocarbons are still greener overall but that doesn’t mean we should quit advancing technologies for even cleaner or alternative fuels. This is and should be a priority.
Sure, I have a vested interest in the internal combustion engine and the vast array of power it brings to many modes of transportation, agricultural needs, mining, construction, boating, recreation, stationary power, etc. Since the EVs aren’t greener, our government should quit playing politics and invest in technologies like Hydrogen that are green. It truly is green power, the best alternative for our environment and the life of the Internal Combustion Engine. But I guess that makes too much sense for a bunch of politicians.
I am an optimist and hope we can change direction before it’s too late. Our future and the future of this planet depend on it.
Is musk sure he wants to band together with this bunch? 😂
Shhhh, like his simps say, there's a reason he's rich... 🤣🤣🤣
Trump's Secretary of State: Rex Tillerson, CEO of multinational oil corporation Exxon-Mobil
Trump's Supreme Court Justice appointee: Amy Coney Barrett, whose father is an American Petroleum Institute board member and former lawyer for Shell
Trump's first EPA chief: Andrew Wheeler, coal lobbyist and lawyer
Trump's second EPA chief: Scott Pruitt, attorney general who sued the EPA on the behalf of the oil industry
Trump's Bureau of Land Management head: William Pendley, oil industry lawyer (who served for hundreds of days in the post illegally)
Trump's Energy Secretary: Rick Perry, board director of multiple petroleum companies with ties to the Texas Oil industry
If anybody was wondering who's really pulling the GOP's strings... it's the fossil fuel industry. Everything they do, the do for them.
It Should Be Customer's Choice.
No, gas powered cars should be banned ASAP. They are part of the existential threat of global warming. I power my Tesla with my solar by the way, and besides, where I live in California we are using renewable energy only, through Central California Power.
If they were to ‘ban’ the sale of EVs (though on what legal grounds, I cannot imagine) it would just mean that people would have to go interstate to buy their cars, since ICE vehicles will not be manufactured or sold in the country … not too good for new car dealerships.
However, if they prohibit EV charging stations, people would be forced to drive older vehicles or buy vehicles overseas and have them shipped to the US … also not great for business.
They don’t appear to have thought this through beyond a dog whistle sound bite to appeal to the Luddite MAGA people who fear the future.
It’s a futile gesture doomed to failure, so by all means, let them have their delusions.
Car sales in the neighbouring states will thank them for it.
For those interested in the transition to EVs (the world just hit 10% adoption for the full year of 2022; the US lags with only around 5.8%):
New technology disruptions typically follow the same pattern: three bands of roughly equal time. 0% to 2%, 2% to 80% , and 80% to 100%. We hit 2% in 2018 after roughly a decade of serious EV production. That strongly suggests 80% by 2028 (one more decade after hitting 2% adoption), and then 80% by 2038 as the S-curve decelerates. Many don't realize how quickly the transition will happen. Even the transition from the horse-and-buggy to automobiles only took about a decade, and that was also occurring during a world war, and while the interstates were being built-out, AND before gas stations were ubiquitous. Tech disruptions are very misleading in that the first few years appear to be linear growth, whereas the overall growth trend is exponential.
Some numbers from December:
Norway - ~85% EVs
Germany - 55% EVs
UK - 39.4% EVs
China - ~30% EVs
It's also worth noting that the bulk of the world's auto sales occur in China, so that has at outsized impact on the overall global EV adoption percentages.
EV adoption will occur as an economic function (Wright's Law); not based on the feelings of people who like internal combustion engines. As EVs gain economies of scale, they create a virtuous cycle of lowering prices, which spurs even faster adoption. Meanwhile, ICE continue to lose economies of scale, making them ever more expensive until they are no longer an affordable option.
Potential scaling issues with electric vehicels that need to be addressed; the conditions in the cobalt mines , bottlenecks in mineral supply chains, and still have a long way to go for semi-trucks because of the weight of the batteries. i think the transition away from fossil fuels will be harder than liberals think but more necessary then conservatives will admit.
Why do capitalists always beg Republicans for government help? Capitalism dictates that all sales are competitive, and are *not* to be controlled by government entities.
This is a common position of all resource extractors: kill the market that threatens our lazy, simple, familiar, comfortable livelihoods despite the fact that our livelihoods have deleterious effects on life on earth, and indeed the planet itself.
You are the only one I've seen besides myself to use the term "extractors"! For years saying "oil production" has rubbed me the wrong way because they aren't producing squat- they are extracting, and the source is finite to boot!
@@jthomas3773 they contribute to a tragedy of the commons. The resources are ours, collectively, but in peril due to their hedonistic self-interests: record profits.
This is really insane I mean really how much oil and gas is really left it can't be that much I truly believe that it's time for humanity to transition into a better more sensible source of energy for both transportation and human consumption i.e. heating ac lighting cooking exc
We run out of atmosphere long before we burn all the fossils fuels.
Amen! And a really, *really* good time to get alternate-powered transportation debugged and into mass-produceable shape would be BEFORE the fossil fuel supplies run out (or the planet's climate becomes even more unbalanced).
I can imagine living in the US might create a false impression of the state of play globally - both in terms of EVs and renewable energy. The UK isn't even at the front of the pack, but we're already at around 40% EVs, with ICEs being phased out completely in 2030. A similar percentage of our energy comes from renewables, and we've barely had a day in years where coal production was needed.
I once saw an old flyer arguing against the adoption of railroads. It claimed that if mankind exceeds forty miles an hour for any length of time they shall surely perish! Times have not changed 😵💫
I rather use the train and support for tram systems because it's much more cheaper than using a car
We live in America. We don't have good train systems for the majority of the country.
It’s so disgusting that Wyoming has 2 Senate seats, the political system in the US is so out of date. Yea, any politician supporting this should not be in politics, so whack
So stupid, they preach capitalism and competition but not when it’s inconvenient for their party special interests/ funds. Standard republican, only support what’s convenient for them at that time.
elon musk: i love republicans
People need to do more research, and think for themselves. While Elon has his right-wing moments, people tend to ignore some of his hard-left stances. When asked at the AI Day event on his stance on regulation for robots, Elon responded that they would need regulation, as everything that affects human health, and safety does (EPA, FDA, etc.). These are all the things Republicans wish to eliminate completely. Elon says just as many things that fry the brains of right-wingers as he has for the left-wing more recently. People just need to understand context, which sorely lacking in most media, and not be hyperbolic about everything.
Wow, what a ridiculous POV. Such a short-sighted approach! Wyoming will only fall further behind.
Elon Musk is not going to love this.
The Wyoming legislator that offered that bill was interviewed. He said he did that as a response to California's intent to ban internal combustion vehicles. He claimed he actually did not want to ban electric cars. He did it more as a joke. That may be even worse. It wasn't a diversion. It's the right's occupation. They are focused on any alternati
They don’t understand the future of Electric Vehicles.
LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS PROGRAM!! David speaks the truth with logic and reality!
Yes, replace them with electric buses, trains, public transportation!
Logically presenting the truth. Thanks for this.
I wonder how many manufacturers will still be offering ICE vehicles as their primary models in 2035?
Let's get these Republicans out of office, now.
When dealing with right wingers the only thing I ever want to ask them is, "Were you released or did you escape?"