On my ‘24 RG I did the SE stage ll with their 511 cam, the wedge AC, and Bassani 2into1 exhaust. Dyno tuned with the SE street tuner. My dealer provides the Forever warranty on the drivetrain so that’s why I went this route. This setup really rips! I have a ‘17 street glide with a fully built Moonshine Horsepower 131” so I know fast bikes. The 511 cam is the same cam that’s in the CVO RG ST. This is well worth the $ if you don’t wanna risk losing your warranty. My dyno numbers were 125HP/133Tq on a warm humid day!
You are not correct about voiding warranty. It all depends where you live and whom owns your Harley dealers. Here in Las Vegas we have 3 huge Harley stores. As long as the cam shaft as example is EPA COMPLIANT and the Harley service department installs , like fueling moto CR473 cam, and even when they dyno tune that cam your warranty is NOT voided. Again this is a call by your local dealer and not the company. You live in an area with shit weather and sounds like not so great dealers. You need to move out here and all those problems go away like magic.. left NY 25 years ago never looked back..
John, warranties will not be void by Harley by using aftermarket parts and or services. Here is a bit that I copied from the lawsuit against Harley. Now they can void in the case of say you do a stage 2 upgrade with a non Harley part and say the cam explodes than they can void the warrant. In light of the findings, the FTC directed Harley Davidson to continue the warranty even if the motorcycle owner customizes the motorcycle with third-party aftermarket parts.
I don't own an HD but I was sure I read that HD had to change their warranty policy based on the lawsuit findings. I was a little confused when John said void policy was still in effect.
My understanding is the "tuner" is not actually a tuner, it's a transmitter/receiver to talk to you phone via bluetooth or should I say the app in you phone or to the laptop. The tuner is already installed on the bike. The "tuner" just lets you access the actual tuner. This was explained to me by my local HD service manager...he also recommended to not keep it installed, use it and keep it in the original box in my saddle bag...
Thank you! I demo'd the 24, and it is really peppy vs my 2017 (M8 107). Will see what the '25 colors look like. Glad to hear the slip ons, and that cleaner looks AWESOME! Stage 1, IMO, is just enough to wake it up & still have cordial neighbors. As a side note.... I used to commute that road (208/17), almost every day. Miss BCHD, but not the commute.
Loving this build so far. Thanks for going step by step & explaining the value/importance of the SE tune & parts vs voiding the warranty and going for all out power. I'm also a huge fan of the daily rider sound vs noise output of this build. People who are into extremes and don't ride long distances won't appreciate it but we get it.
Hey John..love the channel and content. I was dead set on getting the SE Heavy Breather for my new '24 Road Glide until seeing the Wedge on your bike. I'm the same size as you and like the way it sits closer to the frame for better leg clearance. If you ever find yourself up in Banff, Canada...hit me up and I'll show you some beautiful mountain rides. Thanks again.
Like the tuner super easy to get it done. Screaming eagle Aced it on how easy they did this... If I had a new bike I would definitely keep the warranty... Great vid..👊👊
Let’s goooooooo 😄 I’ll definitely be fun. You a good rider you should hang but let me know how my rear lights look after 😉😂 yesssss let’s do it you know I’m game 👍🏼😉💪🏼
Thank you for this, was thinking about the wedge air cleaner but didn’t think the HD tuner would do very much. From your result I think I will do the stage 1 now . Also, really appreciate your demonstrating how to do the tune using the HD tuner, seems really simple
I would expect the HD-SE Stage-1 upgrade to increase power by around 10%, and possibly as much as [up to] 15%, along with improved throttle response, etc. Don't have any Dyno numbers (and more importantly the Curves), but here's the Actual SAE Dyno results (at the Wheel), 2024 Road Glide, Stock versus HD-SE Stage-2 (SE Extreme Wedge Air Cleaner, Slip-on mufflers, & SE Tuner): Stock: 94.04 wHP @ 4640 rpm. 118.45 w/Ft.Lbs. Torque @ 2980 rpm. Stage2: 119.5 wHP @ 5440 rpm. 131.02 w/Ft.Lbs. Torque @ 3920 rpm. And very nice, linear curves. Pretty darn good considering this maintains both Warranty & Emissions Compliance. Just saying. Happy Mother's Day to all the Moms out there!
If you use the black K&N oil on the filter, it looks even better on the bike. I have the same filter on my bike and it made a tremendous difference over the pink color K&N filter.
Did the license plate as you suggested from Custom Dynamics, and now going to do the stage 1 screaming eagle...adjusted my shocks as you suggested ...no bottoming out now....
If they made the element facing out black, I would like it a lot better, and you can look at the other one to see how dirty it is and clean them both when needed. Good video!
Looks good, will be doing the wedge and KW 2 into 1 on my 23 RG CVO. The wedge looks good! I think I'm going with the black oiling kit to turn the filter media black for a better match on the Dark Platinum. Looking forward to how you do against Sammy. Thanks for posting!
Good safe upgrade. Congratulations, go put the 10k on your trip, then if budget allows, stage 2... BUT DO A SKUNKWORKS , Baxter upgrade with cam, lifters, pushrods, valve springs, bigger injectors, 2 into 1 exhaust, clutch basket kit, compensator , a jims fan/horn and vent the tranny case. 👍
That air cleaner does look 👍 The stage one is all I would do, plenty of power I'm sure 😎😃 Too bad they can't make an air filter design that you don't have to worry about rain getting in it and having to put a sock over it, that's the only downfall I have about it. But looks and performs great! 😁👍
Hello there I just traded my 03 sportster for a 2022 fatboy in reef blue never been titled with 97 miles on it & put 10 grand down also got 6 year warranty im getting stage one with bassani exhaust 2 in one pipe i love my new bike
Nice intake!! Gotta get the K&N filter cleaner and oil they get dirty quick if you oil it too much that red oil drip for a couple days all over the bike remember that lol ask me how I know! Good stuff brother have fun!!
It would be killer to see the 24 Rg against a few other bikes. 114 stg2, CVO or ST 117 and even a low rider st. Get a good comparison of the motor, the weight reduction and even aerodynamics. Im digging my 24.
Awesome video man. I just might trade my 19 one of these days. My only concern w that air cleaner is on long road trips and it getting wet? Maybe not a problem. I’ll have to ask about that if I ever consider.
Technically no one can void a warranty period they can decline a warranty claim but they are supposed to prove whatever u used caused the problem might have to fight but it does pay to go around your dealer and at least get a few things from them and relationship makes world of difference
Hey John looks great and already bought same to to go on my 24’ w/ KW slip ons , can’t wait . So I wanted to know if after you add the SE tuner and sync to your bike , are you able to sell to another user for their bike , if say I decide to do same as you in future and go aftermarket Cam and Tuner ???
I’m considering doing the same upgrades. I just ordered a set of TAB Performance slip ons. I’m just confused on the settings because only the SE pipes are listed. I watched what you did and will do the same thing. I will probably never go past stage II on my 2024 Street Glide. Is the turner worth the money? How much would a dealer charge for a tune. Bike looks great!
2021 Road King here. I just did V&H slip-ons, a SE intake, and the SE tuner. Runs way better than stock...I think.... placebo effect? I'm looking to do the Auto Tune over the the next few runs but I'm worried that it will shut off the oil cooling fan that i just had Garden State Harley enable for me.
Enjoying your channel and need a little guidance. I’m ready to do a stage 1 on my 2024 Street Glide. I ordered TAB Performance Slip ons with medium baffles, plan to purchase the screaming eagle pro street turner and the wedge air filter. The exact same things you did. I went to my local dealer today to ask a few questions and was told it was highly recommended I replace the head pipes too. I don’t want to do that. I know if the head pipes have no CATs my warranty will be voided. Just want to check again and see how everything is functioning. My plan is put on the TAB slip ons, install the extreme wedge air cleaner, install the turner and use the app to retune. Sound like a good plan?
Have them checkout Earpiece ear protection. Get the highest decibal reducing. East to loose though. lol You can still hear everything but zero ear ring when your done riding.
It is nice, but I'm not crazy about the looks of the breather but the functionality of it looks like it would hard to beat! I seen one tested on a dyno and it almost matched the performance of no breather at all!
I'm curious, does anyone know why the air intakes are restricted from the factory? I mean just installing a high airflow filter will give a noticable increase in power, why wouldn't they do that stock? 🤔
John, isn’t that large void area in the center of the NEW air filter area, doesn’t this present an opportunity for dirtier air to enter the system? The wedge system seems designed short against a larger air draw small sides filter matter available by its own design…
Now... why does the HD webshop site say that this part does not fit a 2024 Road Glide? It says it does not fit '23 and later center cooled M8 engines.. I don't understand.
John I just bought the 24 Road Glide, Sharkskin color. I’m going to put a Saddlemen seat on it and was wondering if you have a discount code for it. I know you run with Saddlemen seats so I was wondering.
Ok you can get the KW baffles there are 2 types from KW the more expensive ones because once you get the 475 Cam also get the HPI intake manifold your bike will be very loud! with also your bike will be faster than you can believe but i have the thunder max tuner with the oil cooler fan from Thunder Max their tuner is already flashed for the fan,
Hey John, Did you the automatic tune? I saw that after you program it , you can go into auto adjust which tracks how you ride and then it fine tunes it more based on riding style
Happy Mother’s Day to all !!
Nice video keep up the good work Cycle Fanatix
You aren't putting 105/130 to the rear wheel stock like the dealers try to fool you with. 100/120 more like it with a stage 1.
On my ‘24 RG I did the SE stage ll with their 511 cam, the wedge AC, and Bassani 2into1 exhaust. Dyno tuned with the SE street tuner. My dealer provides the Forever warranty on the drivetrain so that’s why I went this route. This setup really rips! I have a ‘17 street glide with a fully built Moonshine Horsepower 131” so I know fast bikes. The 511 cam is the same cam that’s in the CVO RG ST. This is well worth the $ if you don’t wanna risk losing your warranty. My dyno numbers were 125HP/133Tq on a warm humid day!
You are not correct about voiding warranty. It all depends where you live and whom owns your Harley dealers. Here in Las Vegas we have 3 huge Harley stores. As long as the cam shaft as example is EPA COMPLIANT and the Harley service department installs , like fueling moto CR473 cam, and even when they dyno tune that cam your warranty is NOT voided. Again this is a call by your local dealer and not the company. You live in an area with shit weather and sounds like not so great dealers. You need to move out here and all those problems go away like magic.. left NY 25 years ago never looked back..
I did the stage 1 and got 48.5 mpg on my way home from Tennessee hand calculated. The tune made a big difference.
Wow good to know
That is amazing fuel mileage.
John, warranties will not be void by Harley by using aftermarket parts and or services. Here is a bit that I copied from the lawsuit against Harley. Now they can void in the case of say you do a stage 2 upgrade with a non Harley part and say the cam explodes than they can void the warrant.
In light of the findings, the FTC directed Harley Davidson to continue the warranty even if the motorcycle owner customizes the motorcycle with third-party aftermarket parts.
I don't own an HD but I was sure I read that HD had to change their warranty policy based on the lawsuit findings. I was a little confused when John said void policy was still in effect.
John IS incorrect however the parts STILL must all be EPA COMPLIANT.
@@bluegem6559 Luckily, I'm only watching for entertainment purposes, not informational... 😉
I was going to leave this comment but you already did
My understanding is the "tuner" is not actually a tuner, it's a transmitter/receiver to talk to you phone via bluetooth or should I say the app in you phone or to the laptop. The tuner is already installed on the bike. The "tuner" just lets you access the actual tuner. This was explained to me by my local HD service manager...he also recommended to not keep it installed, use it and keep it in the original box in my saddle bag...
Man there is definitely a difference. That throttle response is snappier. Thanks for walking use through it. Really liking the build so far. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thank you! I demo'd the 24, and it is really peppy vs my 2017 (M8 107). Will see what the '25 colors look like. Glad to hear the slip ons, and that cleaner looks AWESOME! Stage 1, IMO, is just enough to wake it up & still have cordial neighbors. As a side note.... I used to commute that road (208/17), almost every day. Miss BCHD, but not the commute.
Loving this build so far. Thanks for going step by step & explaining the value/importance of the SE tune & parts vs voiding the warranty and going for all out power. I'm also a huge fan of the daily rider sound vs noise output of this build. People who are into extremes and don't ride long distances won't appreciate it but we get it.
Thank you and Happy Mother’s Day to your wife too!
Hey John..love the channel and content. I was dead set on getting the SE Heavy Breather for my new '24 Road Glide until seeing the Wedge on your bike. I'm the same size as you and like the way it sits closer to the frame for better leg clearance. If you ever find yourself up in Banff, Canada...hit me up and I'll show you some beautiful mountain rides. Thanks again.
The Wedge is going on mine this week. Can’t wait!!
The bike sounds better. The power comes on rapidly but not too aggressive. cant wait to hear it on your trip.
Like the tuner super easy to get it done. Screaming eagle Aced it on how easy they did this... If I had a new bike I would definitely keep the warranty... Great vid..👊👊
Let’s goooooooo 😄 I’ll definitely be fun. You a good rider you should hang but let me know how my rear lights look after 😉😂 yesssss let’s do it you know I’m game 👍🏼😉💪🏼
👊👊👍
@@CYCLEFANATIX🏁 Gladiators ready! 🏁
Thank you for this, was thinking about the wedge air cleaner but didn’t think the HD tuner would do very much. From your result I think I will do the stage 1 now . Also, really appreciate your demonstrating how to do the tune using the HD tuner, seems really simple
I would expect the HD-SE Stage-1 upgrade to increase power by around 10%, and possibly as much as [up to] 15%, along with improved throttle response, etc. Don't have any Dyno numbers (and more importantly the Curves), but here's the Actual SAE Dyno results (at the Wheel), 2024 Road Glide, Stock versus HD-SE Stage-2 (SE Extreme Wedge Air Cleaner, Slip-on mufflers, & SE Tuner):
Stock: 94.04 wHP @ 4640 rpm. 118.45 w/Ft.Lbs. Torque @ 2980 rpm.
Stage2: 119.5 wHP @ 5440 rpm. 131.02 w/Ft.Lbs. Torque @ 3920 rpm. And very nice, linear curves.
Pretty darn good considering this maintains both Warranty & Emissions Compliance. Just saying.
Happy Mother's Day to all the Moms out there!
And of course the SE 511 bolt-in (no spring change needed) Cam.
It would’ve just been better to get an Indian challenger..wtf are these pathetic numbers lol.
If you use the black K&N oil on the filter, it looks even better on the bike. I have the same filter on my bike and it made a tremendous difference over the pink color K&N filter.
Definitely looks better. Nice and clean upgrade.
We definitely want to see you and Sammy run!
K&N makes a black die for their filter elements. It totally would compliment Blackjacks colors perfectly!!!
Black oil? That's all the red is, it's just the color of the oil. Once you clean the filter the cotton goes to it's normal color which is white.
@@jasonp1177 exactly, and they sell a black tinted oil for those who would prefer a black filter rather than the red.
Hi John, definitely would look forward to a match up with Sammy
awesome upgrade & a great looking air cleaner
Did the license plate as you suggested from Custom Dynamics, and now going to do the stage 1 screaming eagle...adjusted my shocks as you suggested ...no bottoming out now....
Like the direction you’re going with the bike. We’re the same age so I feel you.
That air breather looks AWESOME!! Perfect streamline look 🤘🏻💯!! Bike sounds great John!! Ride safe 🤘🏻💯!!
If they made the element facing out black, I would like it a lot better, and you can look at the other one to see how dirty it is and clean them both when needed. Good video!
Awesome video always enjoy watching
Big John, what are you doing, shorts and T-shirt 😮??? I'm watching your Beyond Rider Flannel video right now.
Looks good, will be doing the wedge and KW 2 into 1 on my 23 RG CVO. The wedge looks good! I think I'm going with the black oiling kit to turn the filter media black for a better match on the Dark Platinum. Looking forward to how you do against Sammy. Thanks for posting!
Blackjack more like a Ace of Spades to me, lol, looking good looking forward to the upgrades 😁
Harley did a great job on this air cleaner. I’ve heard dyno tuners say they haven’t found the limit for horsepower on this air cleaner.
Thanks for the info
Good safe upgrade. Congratulations, go put the 10k on your trip, then if budget allows, stage 2... BUT DO A SKUNKWORKS , Baxter upgrade with cam, lifters, pushrods, valve springs, bigger injectors, 2 into 1 exhaust, clutch basket kit, compensator , a jims fan/horn and vent the tranny case. 👍
That air cleaner does look 👍 The stage one is all I would do, plenty of power I'm sure 😎😃 Too bad they can't make an air filter design that you don't have to worry about rain getting in it and having to put a sock over it, that's the only downfall I have about it. But looks and performs great! 😁👍
That is a nice looking air cleaner for a Harley piece.
I have the same air cleaner on my Stage IV 131 RGS…love it.
Awesome video brother, now you got me spending money 😂😂😂. Keep it going for all of us brother
Id like to see a dyno pull just to see what the numbers are with only SE stage 1
Hello there I just traded my 03 sportster for a 2022 fatboy in reef blue never been titled with 97 miles on it & put 10 grand down also got 6 year warranty im getting stage one with bassani exhaust 2 in one pipe i love my new bike
Would love to see the diffrence between the two bikes! 2024 117 stage1 and the 114 stage2❤
Please do the SE511 upgrade before you go aftermarket
Nice intake!! Gotta get the K&N filter cleaner and oil they get dirty quick if you oil it too much that red oil drip for a couple days all over the bike remember that lol ask me how I know! Good stuff brother have fun!!
I did the black wedge aircleaner and love the look. I also just switched to the black K&N filter oil.
I installed slips on s&s perfomance muffler my nightster special 2023 the sounds and torque insane might more power.
Looks good sounds great get a run with Sammy let’s us all see how Black Jack compares 👌
Like that wedge, looks sweet! Gotta get one.👍
That air cleaner looks great
The bike does sound different and the air cleaner looks really good 👍🏾
Definitely want to see that !!!
Nice bro 😎 bike coming out nice 👍🏼 definitely going to breath better 💪🏼💪🏼
Yes run Sammy!!!
It would be killer to see the 24 Rg against a few other bikes.
114 stg2, CVO or ST 117 and even a low rider st. Get a good comparison of the motor, the weight reduction and even aerodynamics.
Im digging my 24.
Always good to have more response and power 👍 Never good to be hemmed in by traffic so you can't use it... 😶
John, what's the cost of this stage 1 upgrade. Air Box / Slip-on's and the tune you did.
Looks good 👍🏾 👍🏾
Awesome video man. I just might trade my 19 one of these days. My only concern w that air cleaner is on long road trips and it getting wet? Maybe not a problem. I’ll have to ask about that if I ever consider.
Technically no one can void a warranty period they can decline a warranty claim but they are supposed to prove whatever u used caused the problem might have to fight but it does pay to go around your dealer and at least get a few things from them and relationship makes world of difference
Interesting how they repositioned the throttle body
Hey John looks great and already bought same to to go on my 24’ w/ KW slip ons , can’t wait .
So I wanted to know if after you add the SE tuner and sync to your bike , are you able to sell to another user for their bike , if say I decide to do same as you in future and go aftermarket Cam and Tuner ???
No, it will be married to the Bike
@ thanks 😊
I’m considering doing the same upgrades. I just ordered a set of TAB Performance slip ons. I’m just confused on the settings because only the SE pipes are listed. I watched what you did and will do the same thing. I will probably never go past stage II on my 2024 Street Glide. Is the turner worth the money? How much would a dealer charge for a tune. Bike looks great!
2021 Road King here. I just did V&H slip-ons, a SE intake, and the SE tuner. Runs way better than stock...I think.... placebo effect?
I'm looking to do the Auto Tune over the the next few runs but I'm worried that it will shut off the oil cooling fan that i just had Garden State Harley enable for me.
Enjoyed the video
Pretty bike 💪🏻😎
Great video, very informative 👍🏼
Enjoying your channel and need a little guidance. I’m ready to do a stage 1 on my 2024 Street Glide. I ordered TAB Performance Slip ons with medium baffles, plan to purchase the screaming eagle pro street turner and the wedge air filter. The exact same things you did. I went to my local dealer today to ask a few questions and was told it was highly recommended I replace the head pipes too. I don’t want to do that. I know if the head pipes have no CATs my warranty will be voided. Just want to check again and see how everything is functioning. My plan is put on the TAB slip ons, install the extreme wedge air cleaner, install the turner and use the app to retune. Sound like a good plan?
Have them checkout Earpiece ear protection. Get the highest decibal reducing. East to loose though. lol You can still hear everything but zero ear ring when your done riding.
The air cleaner design is killer, would have been cool if the outer face was Black and Chrome.
Good stuff bro. 💪🏽
Ever thought about installing a catch can to the breather bolts like your buddy on the lowrider st. ?
What’s with riding in a t-shirt and shorts, didn’t expect to see you do that
I did the stage 1 its badass, where did you get your hand guards?
Looks good.
It is nice, but I'm not crazy about the looks of the breather but the functionality of it looks like it would hard to beat! I seen one tested on a dyno and it almost matched the performance of no breather at all!
I’d like to see your bike vs the stage 2 114 and I’d like to see it against a new cvo st.
I was just debating this cleaner for my 23 lowrider st stg 2 3030 cam. But went with Trask assault hi flow instead.
Make sure you have a rain sock john
Thanks 👍😊
I hate the thought of ditching the "117" badge. That sucks, given that I like that look and don't want to lose it. Any advice?
They sell a 117 badge for the Cam cover
I'm curious, does anyone know why the air intakes are restricted from the factory? I mean just installing a high airflow filter will give a noticable increase in power, why wouldn't they do that stock? 🤔
John, isn’t that large void area in the center of the NEW air filter area, doesn’t this present an opportunity for dirtier air to enter the system? The wedge system seems designed short against a larger air draw small sides filter matter available by its own design…
bro nice info and nice bike , so can you use this tuner for aftermarket cam custom tune ?
No just for HD SE
Now... why does the HD webshop site say that this part does not fit a 2024 Road Glide? It says it does not fit '23 and later center cooled M8 engines.. I don't understand.
EPA is only going to make it more difficult to tune these bikes as time goes on. Any idea on timeline for when they think they will beable to tune?
Put a heal tech quick shifter on it and you’ll really see it boogie
Very cool
I want to see the race
Now is good and cams are fun. Are you gonna wait two years so you don’t lose your warranty?
Definitely not
John I just bought the 24 Road Glide, Sharkskin color. I’m going to put a Saddlemen seat on it and was wondering if you have a discount code for it. I know you run with Saddlemen seats so I was wondering.
I just show is available a Stage 2 SE for new models...120hp & 110torque.
Ok you can get the KW baffles there are 2 types from KW the more expensive ones because once you get the 475 Cam also get the HPI intake manifold your bike will be very loud! with also your bike will be faster than you can believe but i have the thunder max tuner with the oil cooler fan from Thunder Max their tuner is already flashed for the fan,
I have the same bike and trying to keep up with all your same upgrades 😂, now can I just update the filter without make it stage 1 or 2?
Especially when you’re bolting into the cylinder head seriously
So is the CVO ST classed as a screaming eagle stage 2 ? as it has 511cam and big air cleaner
Very cool Bro
Hey John,
Did you the automatic tune? I saw that after you program it , you can go into auto adjust which tracks how you ride and then it fine tunes it more based on riding style
I started doing that and I am in the process of auto tuning it
@@CYCLEFANATIX Let me know if you see a difference. I have a 2 into 1 D&D pipe and see no difference. LOL
What is that work light? Very handy looking
Snap on
@@CYCLEFANATIX awesome! I’ll have to take a look at it
Do you actually need to tune the bike for just a air cleaner
Let's see it !!!!
I did a D and D billet Cat 2 into 1 you would think you have a whole Nother bike
Anyone know if this air cleaner fits earlier M8 bikes? I have a 17 first year
Yes it does!!
John, Do you need a rain sock for the wedge air cleaner?
Will you be at Laconia this year?