Pip's description of his efforts to change his orientation through prayer and Bible reading sends chills down my spine - that was my path too, and I remember wondering why everyone else were heterosexual for free while, for some reason, something was wrong with me. Thank you for having the courage of telling this story.
I remember utterly pointless it was to pray for it to go away. We all did it when adolescence came. God was either incapable or unwilling to make me a heterosexual. Either way it was so wonderful to embrace honesty.
My honest opinion as a christian guy dealing with same sex attraction . He should have not married. but I do understand the circumstances he was in making that decision. In the end we all as human beings should take accountability for our own decisions, because GOD is the only one able to judge us as believers. My fullness of my identity is not for me nor humans to deside what I am... it is only God who can do that. And God says (Romans 8:17) we are sons and daughters we are heirs of the Kingdom of God. My sexual orientation is NOT my identity, my true identity is far beyond that. And for the sake of a healthy fear of God I choose to live a celebate life, because it honours the word of God, it honours my fellow believers and it honours my body which is the temple of God. This is a personal decision formed by my own experience, not forced by any religion or peer pressure. All I hope is that all believers find peace , hope , freedom and Love in Christ.
Taking away the elaborate supernatural infrastructure that you've fabricated to justify avoiding doing what's necessary to ultimately resolve the issue you're dealing with, the decision to lead a celibate life may seem to be a less worthy endeavour than you've made it out to be in this "protesteth too much" testimonial.
@jacegil God did not make you that way. The fall of mankind did! If you blame anyone it should be Adam and Eve and don't forget Satan! God does love you just the way you are, if he didn't he would not offer you the FREE gift of salvation and eternal life. Life is short , eternity is forever.
I need to say... his wife (or ex-wife, whatever) is such an amazing human being! kudos to her for allowing the space, and for being so understanding instead of being upset!
I’m sure she has many feelings but she comes across as the type of woman to handle things logically and with empathy. She is a strong woman and a beautiful soul.
Yes...he is Happy....you can see it in his face. ....somehow its Not the same with her..... I hope that Pip n his new partner finds & helps Kris get her Happiness apart from their two sons. Id love to be a part of this Church....A Church of God that Loves me n Who i Am.
@@drew0909 I suspect there is more projection than reading. She has to have had nearly as difficult a path being duped into that false narrative that Evangelicalism pushes but doesn't deliver. She has been victimized by Evangelicalism in a similar way as he was.
This documentary changed my life. I am a 16 year old and was previously a catholic. I was struggling finding acceptance in the church being gay. When I discovered the Anglican Church through this documentary, which is very similar to Catholicism with the exception of it being affirming of lgbt rights, I felt something shift. I finally found acceptance with my Christian Faith and coexisting with my sexuality. When I turn 18 in 2021 I plan on fully converting to Anglicanism. Thank you Pip for changing my life, your story helped me finally be at peace
Hi my sister! I am not part of the lgbt community but I want you to know that God loves you and I support you! I was also previously Roman Catholic but I felt unaccepted there as a person of a minority so I somewhat understand the pain but not to the extent you felt it probably. God bless you
Please if you are serious about it, I encourage you to go to confession and learn what the church really teaches about homosexuality. You may have a misunderstanding o what the human is and how the church is involved with the salvation of souls. Know that you are called to be a saint, that is more than our natural state. You cannot ignore that the catholic church is the only church our Lord founded, be serious on your discernment. I am praying for you!
God makes us, guides us and loves us! Being Christian and being Gay is totally compatible. Listen to the words and love of Jesus, not the interpretations of men and if need be find the right congregation that accepts you for you. Don’t let others guilt you or bring you down, live in love and peace.
I hope you reconsider your conversion and your faith. Believe in God because God exists. Believing in God because it fits conveniently with who you want to have sex with is an illegitimate reason for faith. It's no different than sales people who join a church so they can try to turn the congregation into customers. It's unethical. If God exists then God exists and if God does not exist then God does not exist. God's existence does not depend on your sexuality. Please don't deceive honest believers into thinking you're a brother Christian who has genuine faith when your faith actually rests on who you're sexually attracted to
I like that they were such true friends, that this "love" enabled them to deal with this huge problem with compassion and empathy because they cared for each other that much. This is a truly sad yet beautiful story.
"For some strange reason, the church could ruin just about everything for us, but that they couldn't take our real experience of the divine." Whether you are LGBTQI+ or not, God loves EVERYBODY whether you like it or not!! Amen.
God loves everybody. How exactly does He do that? And where do you get this idea that God loves everybody. You seem to know Him. Or maybe you think you know Him. Your comment doesn't say much, honestly.
I'm a non-believer who, as a boy, sang in a church choir but can't remember ever believing that there was a God, especially given the terrible things that were being done in his name and despite him supposedly looking over and out for everyone. If so, why do so many in the world suffer incredible misfortunes and mistreatment. The teachings of 'God' in all faiths is based on love, forgiveness, understanding, acceptance, tolerance, and inclusion. The problem is that those people responsible for the formation and oversight of the various religious 'organisations' base their beliefs, not on the 'word of God' but on their personal prejudices and this is reflected in the uncompromising attitudes of these religions. They cast out those who do not fit their idea of what is their interpretation of their 'God's word'. After all, religious books which tell you how to behave and think were written predominently by men based on their prejudices and experiences. If you believe in God, love your life as you believe your God would want for you and not as others interpret what you are meant to do.
This was a moment in time for both Pip and Kris to prove once again that God has no favorites. Their story is beautiful and nothing is more God like then the life they are living.
Joe Pepe there is nothing God like in the life he is living. The bible explicitly states homosexuality is wrong. You can search for a “church” that says your sin is ok, but you’re just fooling yourself.
Such a powerful and moving documentary that breaks the shackles of the conservative evangelical movement ... What a breath of fresh air to feel God’s love and grace for all!
It's a turn away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ in reality, 1 Corinthians 6:9 says "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men". We all go through difficult circumstances in life in one way or another but embracing our sin is the opposite of what God wants for us. Proverbs 14:12 "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death."
I got married and had 3 children !! The Marriage was a complete Disaster.. After my Divorce I came out to my family.. And I've been happy ever since...
Peace with one's " own self" , as my kids said when they were little, and love for our fellow humans is actually like a rainbow .... emotional, beautiful, natural and light ... I hope you're all having a great time!
What an amazing wife and mother he has in Chris! Major props to her for being so open and forward thinking and unconditional in her love and support of her partner.
God loves you the way you are. Don't fall for the negative sides, keep praying to god, and keep working on your life; and most important, your relationship with God.
Human effort could never match the righteousness of God. That is the reason Jesus died in our stead - that is why God's grace is invaluable. And Jesus Christ understands that we are not infallible. Anyone trying to say that there are people who are not worthy of the love of Jesus Christ are just modern-day Pharisees. Not even they in all their Mosaic Law & order were exempt from needing forgiveness from God through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. For ALL have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. Christ came to call the sick & the unloved that they may experience the mercy of God. 💛
@@gregs3220 Matthew 7:1 - 2 For as you judge, so you will be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be used against you. 1 John 1: 8 If we say "We are without sin," we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
This 80 year old gay minister who also found a haven in the Anglican communion found your honest and sensitive testimony deeply moving and hopeful. God bless you and your ministry !!!👍
@@deanaburnham9571 The Worldwide Anglican Communion is composed of a lot of Provinces. One of those Provinces is the Episcopal Church, which is centered in the US. Another Province is the Anglican Church of Canada. This Priest is a Priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. The Mother Province of the Worlwide Anglican Communion is the Church of England. If people will notice, this documentary was made by the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
Ms Burnham: Thanks for your clarification, which may help some persons understand this video and my use of terms; as I was aware of the film's Canadian origin, and I am of USA Methodist / Episcopalian origin, thus the more general terminology. As you no doubt recognize, one can't easily get all the background into. a single comment, so I am most grateful for your clarifying addition.
Thank you so so much for covering this. I have just begun on my journey with Christ and being almost 20 and gay has been really scary. Not growing up that religious but very spiritual I have always felt a connection to something divine. Seeing a church which affirms my self-expression and interpretation of the scripture is so so powerful
@@LittleFrog09 Every single one of us sin but I don’t think a God who is so loving, generous and all knowing would create us in his image only to be condemned to a life of sin. There is some things we just don’t know but we all know how much God loves us through his son Jesus and like you said you can feel it. Don’t let anyone tell you he doesn’t love you
I watched this one twice. The children in this family are growing up in such a loving environment. Even though I am an atheist I would absolutely attend this church just for the community. Thank-you for this one
Nicolle Olafson your an atheist and would go to a church, why?are you going to explain to these people that they are following in a manner inconsistent with the evidence? I mean, you place everything on evidence, right. Then go and explain to these people that their views do no align with the Law of both the Old and New Testaments. You should be able to agree with that statement.
@@mikazofstrum3268 Where is your husband? 1 Timothy 2:12 is pretty clear on the subject of speaking out against men - and the priest you continually rage against *is* a man. Where is your husband? Why are you breaking your own Biblical law?
E T well I think you assume you are interpreting 1Timothy correctly, obviously out of context and with the eyes of a modernist. Well, try if you can, to imagine the context of this letter from Paul. If you read the interpretations from the Catholic Bishops or Orthodox Bishops ( those with authority from Christ to interpret these passages), you will see that this refers to either a rebuke of a specific case in the Ephesian church and the establishment of proper conduct. Men are to conduct themselves with honesty and without judgement. Women are to learn in a peaceful manner without quarrel. Both men and women are warned against displaying the arrogance of Eve. Now, you make two errors in your argument. One, you mistake Paul’s instruction to a specific situation, for a universal teaching or code of conduct. To be able to ascertain Paul’s overall message, you have to see what Paul’s total message is. Remember Paul also states the “we are all one in Christ.” Two, your rebuttal to my argument is invalid. This is because my argument states that one must be consistent with Christian teaching to call yourself a Christian, which the subject of the video fails to be. You establish a red herring by comparing my apparent lack of adherence to Christian teaching to my claim regarding this video. This still does not address the content of my argument. Let me help you. You could be valid if you questioned whether or not Christianity actually teaches the doctrine that practicing homosexuality is sinful. That would force me to prove the point. Question my adherence to the faith does not do this validly.
I hope this incredible young man reads this msg. You are loved, and God would NEVER, EVER turn his back on you OR place conditions on his love for you. I am so happy you were able to finally live and enjoy your truth and what an incredible, loving and honourable Steward you are…Equality, Peace and Love to you and your beautiful family 😘😘
Brilliant. I think it's about time now that people should stop hiding their fear by hiding behind what should be a totally inclusive church. God bless you.
This is a cautionary tale. If you're gay, accept yourself, your nature, and don't try this because you are involving others, will sooner or later have to admit defeat. Shame on anyone who tries to convince gay men that marriage is the cure.
Amazing...this is both my and my brothers story. We are both Christian, married to men, in ministry, and in our 70's. My brothers ex-wife is still his best friend and I still consider her my sister. they are still a family in raising their children and grandchildren. It does get better, especially when we learn to be open to Gods mercy, grace, and love.
@Tiger Lilly your past seems to haunt you....maybe your husband left you for another man because you were incapible to perform your duties ----- Dont Blame God for that by using Him as a Shield Don't Blame Pip in this video ..for he has found Happiness n you Havent. Dont Blame the Homosexuals for your Unhappiness. BLAME IT ALL ON YOURSELF - YOUR CHOICES , YOUR ACTIONS N YOUR WORDS. ....no one else is the cause of this state youre in but YOURSELF. Do you now understand Devil in Sheeps Clothing or is it appropriate to say " Devil in Tigers' Clothing " 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Try n have a Blessed time.
@@aiseakonrote5381 And what do you think Jesus meant when He send His disciples, including today's Christians, to go and preach the Good News, set the captives free? Stop hiding behind "do not judge" to justify the promotion of sin, because this is exactly what this video and this testimony is about.
@@aiseakonrote5381 Can you guess who said this: Be Holy as Your Father in Heaven. I am eager to hear what you respond to the author of this command, because you seem to be violently allergic to the idea of someone reminding their fellow believers that this is what God is calling them to be.
@@habibak.6234 just because you're envious of the Happiness shown in this video - you rant off your phobic feelings. Keep ranting - Pip will always be Happy n others as well as me......n hopefully you too. Cheers...Try n have a Blessed vision.😊😊
A second thanks for your courage and compassion in posting this video. It has brought out a great deal of support for your insight into Christian compassion and pilgrimage, as well as "outing" a lot of ugly and mediaeval bigotry. I pray that all of your lives -- as God wishes, are evolving for you happily, and that your priesthood is prospering. (From the 80 year old gay priest) GOD BLESS AND GUIDE YOU 👍👍 !!!
@@thug588: And you obviously have failed to learn anything from its hero, Jesus Christ. No wonder you go by the name "thug" !! How singularly appropriate!!!
Quran, Muslim, and Christian bible all condemn homosexuality as an abomination. I will pray for both of us to repent. I also need repentance for my sins.
Thanku for sharing your story, it brought me to tears.I have been to churches and never felt safe and wanted.Thanks to u lam going to check out my local Angolan Church, and see there view on Gay people.Again Thanku.😁😁
whats so wonderful about a story that maybe told with eloquence, panache and yes emotions-analyze the dynamics of the turmoil generated as a result of the choice he made-so much complex confusion for those young children and the wife
Yes, Elmer, so do I. She💐 courageously went into this marriage knowing the risk; but it must still be hard for her, and she shows even greater courage and compassion in accepting and publishing it's outcome. So, yes; if she wishes to find love in another partner, I heartily wish her the best ! God bless her !!!!
God loves all of his creation, but our sin separates us from God. He is calling us daily to repentance, turning from our sin and being back in communion with Him. We all struggle daily, but it's worth it!
Truely agonizing story and beautiful at the same time which is going on everyday for many of us.It would be really nice and happier moment if every story of such struggles becomes same like this mesmerizing live story...
I wish you the best! As an Anglican I am proud the people like you are opening the doors of walking with Christ. I am thankful for The Right Reverend Gene Robinson for standing tall during very tough times. Blessings, David +
Parts of this was hard to watch for personal reasons. This was a wonderful short doc and I wish each one of you the very best. Its amazing to have a place to develop your faith and someone to go home to.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw Which Christian religion are you? I'm Catholic, so should I say you're going to hell if you aren't, because some will. Should we listen to southern baptist, because they say they are the only way. I had stopped going to mass over 20 years ago, in the last 6 months I came back, because I realized I was there for God and not for others. God is about love, and I have a tough time believing and never will, that God would hold against me, the way he made me
@@Jukka70 The serpent whispers into Eves ear "Hath God said?" casting doubt on Gods Word. Eve eats of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In otherwords decides for herself what is good and evil. This continues even today especially when it comes to this issue. Jesus Christ is obedient unto death and sacrifices Himself. As Christians we are called to sacrifice according to Gods Word, not what the world decides. Sexual liberation is about political control.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw there are so many arguments about this, we could go for days. So I will just say this. You have done your job following what you believe to be right. I now say back ty. I still believe that God knows what he is doing. Saying once to us is to inform, to say it more is to judge, and God does love us all
I'm so happy to see he's found the right path for his life. Now he can have the happiness as it should be and has hid faith. It's a beautiful thing and as it should be.
so this according to u is the right path? Marrying a woman-divorcing her-marrying a man and all 3 under one roof- as the man warms up and cuddles another man and the woman is left to nurse her wounds,all under the same roof
@@zulkifal111 What part did you get that they were all living under the same roof. I certainly missed that part. And even if so, that is their choice to do it. Their lives are not yours or mine. Living expenses are not cheap. And wirh staggered pay ans increasing cost, it becomes a survival thing. Can't say that this President is making anything easier for the non-rich.
THE SINS THAT CRY TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE 5 . They called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to your house tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have intimacies with them." 6 . Lot went out to meet them at the entrance. When he had shut the door behind him, 7 . he said, "I beg you, my brothers, not to do this wicked thing. 8 . I have two daughters who have never had intercourse with men. Let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you please. But don't do anything to these men, for you know they have come under the shelter of my roof." 9 . They replied, "Stand back! This fellow," they sneered, "came here as an immigrant, and now he dares to give orders! We'll treat you worse than them!" With that, they pressed hard against Lot, moving in closer to break down the door. 10 . But his guests put out their hands, pulled Lot inside with them, and closed the door; 11 . at the same time they struck the men at the entrance of the house, one and all, with such a blinding light that they were utterly unable to reach the doorway. 12 . Then the angels said to Lot: "Who else belongs to you here? Your sons (sons-in-law) and your daughters and all who belong to you in the city - take them away from it! 13 . We are about to destroy this place, for the outcry reaching the LORD against those in the city is so great that he has sent us to destroy it." -- Genesis 19:5 - 13 True friends don't let friends get sodomized!
@@StevenWaling Leviticus 18:22-25 Amplified Bible (AMP) You shall not lie [intimately] with a male as one lies with a female; it is repulsive. [1 Cor 6:9, 10] You shall not have intimate relations with any animal to be defiled with it; nor shall a woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion. ‘Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled. For the land has become defiled; therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants.
A biblical evangelical preaches the good news that God loves all of God’s creation. This video shows true evangelism: the surety of God’s mercy and compassion. Thank you for sharing this story. God bless you all.
I read it in Hebrew and Greek. As a Baptist, my faith is grounded in Jesus/the gospels; all the rest is commentary to be read and understood in the context of the ministry of Jesus. Both Jesus and Paul warn against false prophets of which they are as many now as then. Read the first Chapter of John in Greek; it really opened my heart. I also follow what Jesus says about about Sodom.
I’m a SSA young man convert to Catholicism and I must say that though my sexuality is part of who I am, it is not the core of my identity. As a religious person my identity is first with Our Lord Jesus and His Church. I encourage anyone who wants to know the actual stance of the Catholic Church on homosexuals to read the Catechism or to hear talks which are available in this video platform given by Fr. Mike Schmitz.
I am aware that the video is not directly related to the Catholic Church. I just wanted to show another point of view from a religious person who is SSA. Also the fact that the person went to a congregation merely for their acceptance of his sexuality in my opinion is not a good sign. I converted from a church who could have accepted this behavior to the Church who teaches otherwise. I converted because I had to surrender to what had been revealed to me. The Most Holy Sacrament. It should be said that according to the Church beings SSA is not a sin itself though acting on it is. God bless you.
Schmitz tells people Catholics aren’t allowed to even go to gay weddings as guests. This from a man whose brother is gay. I used to think this was pettiness but this is a deep deep sickness in many Catholics. On this issue the church is unnaturally disordered and must repent of its mortal sin. Many of the hierarchy will burn.
This story is so heart breaking. I am a believer and even though I would not be able to say that gay marriage is okay, I do believe that everyone should be allowed in church. The bible says that every sin is equal so if we don't allow every sinner into church, what kind of church are we? We all have fallen short of the glory of God and we are called to love God first and everyone else too. How could anyone be denied the love of God and be called to repentance if they are shunned when they are seeking God? I love that the church truly has a "Come as you are" attitude. In that respect, I agree.
@@wendymitchell8245 I went to church before I was a Christian. I was invited by a good friend and I eventually repented. You can blame the church all you want but at the end of the day, we all have a choice. It is our own choices that we will be responsible for in the end...not what others have done.
Not every sin is equal. Some are worse. You wouldn't consider lying to be as bad as adultery, or saying something insulting to be as bad as killing someone.
I really think that society as a whole has to wake up to the fact that we are and we are not going away any time soon, I am proud of who I am and I have no regrets what so ever as to what I am, I have this life from the age of 15 years and now at the age of 77 I can say without any regrets that I am a very happy person happily married to a wonderful man whom I have been with for almost 27 years. As for this documentary, I am very very proud of you as a man of the cloth you have opened your heart to a very loving wife and your new husband and that you have two wonderful children also this is amazing and all that I can say is God bless you and family.
Do not go to church, because you do not want to do the will of God. Continue as you do, but your lifestyle is ungodly. The scriptures say that all immoral people will end up in the Lake of Fire. Or repent, and sin no more.
@@klarissaclairiton9010 Sacred Scripture, both in the Old and New Testament forbids homosexual acts, unchastity, adultery, masturbation, lewd acts. God's already passed judgement on these actions. Barrack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Mario Cummo and all the other worldly politicians who will say and do anything for your vote ...they aren't God.
Daryle Harris I am curious, how can you say this given the fact that both the Old and New Testaments confirms that homosexuality is a grave sin. You encourage this behavior despite what God says? His burden is great, yes, but loving God means obeying His commandments.
This was just so beautifu to see the story unfold. I honestly wasn't sure what to expect as this progressed. But a fantastic and fabulous wonderful outcome. So moving.
Thanks martincurd, we're glad that you were touched by our story! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel if you're interested in seeing where we're at, today!
“Coming out cost me family and all of my friends.” That was such a difficult thing to hear. The harm done in the name of Faith by those who profess the Love of God should seriously listen to this documentary. I am, however, so glad that from suffering came such a wonderful metamorphosis.
Simon Jenner don’t confuse harm with love. Harm would encourage someone to continue in sin. Love is turning someone to God so they avoid eternal damnation. Is that what you meant?
Thanks Simon! Pip and I are creating content on a new TH-cam channel, if you're interested in queer spirituality, emotional wellbeing and support, check us out :)
Potent story. The mission of the entirety of Jesus' life and the New Testament can be summed up in this: God is supremely focused on loving the "outsider". Pip's story is the personification of this message. Thank you Pip and God bless!!
Robert B Anderson read again. Jesus affirms the Law. He does not abrogate it. Don’t take what you like and leave out what you don’t. To love God is to obey Him. When Jesus saved the woman from the mob, He forgave her but also said go an sin no more. God’s Love does not include sinful behavior unless the sinner repents. Then His sacrifice belongs to you.
Christ's focus was / is on drawing sinners to Himself for their sanctification. But He forces no man. Reject His commands, follow the world, seek every fleshly desire and listen to the demonic hoards...you've willfully drowned out the voice of God within you.
Nope, you people like twisting the word of God. Jesus ' love for insiders or outsiders has only One goal. Setting them free from the power of sin, death and hell. He never entertained the devil by encouraging anyone to stay in their sins.
Tell that to the churches that condemn us, cause shame for us, cause depression for us, cause non-acceptance of ourselves even as good people, cause us to commit suicide.............all religions are just "bad stories" and are sin themselves - they promote duality, polarization, wars and hatred. We don't need religions to be good, king, loving, wonderful, accepting people. Find spirit in any way other than religion - religion tells lies to people and stories that never happened. Nature and animals don't lie.
@@brendongross4119- take care of that log in your eye before you going around sticking your finger in someone else's eye. You have no authority to decide what is or is not the word of any god.
Thank you for sharing your story. It exudes love, self work, and commitment to God and your family. It seems all your good intentions paid off in the end. There is nothing sweeter than your sons dancing with the drag queens who have goodness in their heart to make people laugh. May God bless you in your journey forward.
Pip has gone through real pain. He obviously missed some critical male bonding when he was young. But he and his ex-wife are very confused and are causing much damage to themselves and others.Example 1The fact of a man craving his wife is NOT about objectifying her. Married sex between man and wife is about mutual self-giving where two literally become one. It is an icon of the Trinity. It is so precious to God that He enables the couple to become co-creators.That is NEVER possible with same-sex couples.Example 2While God may operate in unexpected ways, He NEVER contradicts Himself. He has an established order that humans are duty bound to abide by.What He wants from us is simple: that we love Him back and abide in His will. That's it.What He wants is for us to do these things so we can get to our true home, the one He has prepared for us. Don't trade the eternal banquet that is our true inheritance for the temporary potato chips of this world.
Not many things make me cry, I'm 66 and never been in love, I never allowed myself the luxuray for even believing that's it's possible, I'm glad Some still do find a way .......
That's so tragic. Everybody deserves the pure joy, the feeling of butterflies in your stomach and the fierce protectiveness that comes with being in love. It is still possible, even at your age, if you'd only just believe it it is and then actively search for it. Believe! xx
Alys, you are so not alone. Try to find a loving progressive church where you feel safe. The Anglican church has been striving to be that. In our community it is the bastion of Christ's radical love for people of all backgrounds.
@@breny3 i do not wish to live according to my orientation. ..i am catholic and want to submit to the church's teaching and scripture....but it just helped to hear of another person's struggle to be the spouse they wanted to be because of their orientation. I love my husband dearly but fail him daily because i cannot give him the physical intimacy he desires because of the ptsd and selfhatred that arises if i do. I grieve deeply for not being good enough. To know I'm not alone in that gives me comfort to my soul.
Forget Catholicism, it’s teachings are pagan. Get yourself a bible and read the New Testament, ask god to help you understand it and give you wisdom. God completely transformed my life by simply reading the bible and praying everyday. I suffered with severe depression / anxiety for 25 years. God healed me completely after 2 months of praying and reading. God also showed me sins I needed to repent of. Once I decided to get rid of sin in my life that’s when things really started to get better. Don’t despair. Jesus loves you and is waiting for you to cry out to him. Let him transform your life.
The thing I noticed the most was the unconditional love. Too bad most churches I have attended have not been loving places and I am a straight older lady who needs fellowship.. I feel excluded in most churches. They have become money oriented and not Houses of prayer and restoration for broken people who need a savoir named Jesus! I am not saying I agree with what was presented in this video, but there was undeniably love there.
Mary Wolfe no! Love only exists when we are in grace with God. You mistakenly saw desire as love. There can be no love without God. And Jesus said to love God is to obey His Law. Pray for these people but don’t encourage their lifestyle.
Wow, you did what I never had the guts to do. I always wanted the wife and kids but also knew I would never feel fulfilled. I am Catholic but would love to hear a few of your homilies. You are doing what you were ment to do. I am happy for you.
The purpose of church is not "to celebrate who we are," but to celebrate Who God is. It's not to live "our best life" is this world, but to live for Him, exalt Him, and we can only do that through Him after accepting Him as our Savior.
@@namelessrose3859 It's called faith. And also, how to you think we got here? Do you really thing that all of this can come from nothing? Look around you. Look at how complicated but wonderful the human body is. All of the atoms that make up everything around us. The wonder of nature, all of the beautiful stars in the night sky, galaxies away. You believe that those were created randomly through an explosion from nothing? Our world is so delicate and complex, something like that can only be created. Planned out, and hand crafted. Something can't just come from nothing.
I am an ex-gay person. I suffered more with my gay peers and I learned a lot. I gave my burden to God. I am not interested in being with a man and getting married to one not to mention having children. However, I do love my gay brothers and sisters. It doesn't feel right to me so I decided to create new relationships with other people and started an online business.
You my dear are perfect in showing how God is your First Love!!!!! Christ will give you millions of crowns to throw at The Father feet on that glorious day !!!! That will be where I will watch your love for our creator and Celebrate with Christ !!!
I loved this entire video, although I felt very strong empathy for Kris, the baby's Mother (if I have her name correct). As far as wishing: I wish at the very end, Pip (the Priest) would have, as he held the Host, smiled, looked fulfilled and happy. And, it the small circles that were rising up in the field of black behind them, I wish they had been coming down, symbolizing Christ's body being available to all the people for whom He died and gave His life, rather than being lifted or taken up, away from the people. This is a tremendous video. I can think, immediately, of at least 2,500 people who I wish I could invite to sit down and watch it.
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what makes u think the family has found peace-he may have found momentary pleasure-peace and pleasure are different-family implies the wife and children-scratch the surface there maybe a myriad of emotions beneath the calm stillness
Very nice what a uplifting message for us all. What a model you are for all the young men who need someone to lookup too. My days are coming to an end but you gave me something to hope for tomorrow. May God YAHWEH an YESHUA bless you and all yours.
Phil Lynch THe Spirit will guide us into all truth. The ancient Tradition of the Church is the the Spirit leads us by guiding the decisions of the community of faith: the bishops, priests, deacons, and laity who prayerfully meet in faith to discuss issues and listen for the guidance of the Spirit. The idea that anyone at all can read the Bible and whatever’s written there is the way things have to be is a relatively modern invention, developed by the Protestant reformers when they threw out the faith as it had existed for 1500 years and reinvented everything. Modern Evangelical Protestantism is a human invention, a radical reinterpretation of Christianity, and because of that, it has led to the reappearance of all the old heresies.
Wf Coaker if you are suggesting that God’s word can change, you are gravely mistaken. God is eternal. That means His word and actions are forever. Any reinterpretation is heresy. Both the Old and New testaments confirm homosexuality is a grave sin. We don’t get to reinterpret this. Remember Jesus said He came to reaffirm the law not abrogate it.
I truly believe that God is love and that all are welcome in the church. No one should ever be turned away. Glad you’re happy but what about the wife/ex-wife.
God is love and endless mercy for those who repent but he s also justice ,horrible justice . He s holy and cannot stand sin although love his children and want their salvation .repent while u can , at death it's over. Utube saints visits to hell. Have u ever considered castration .many done it it healed them
She was aware that he was gay before they married, and willingly entered into marriage with him hoping that therapy would change his orientation, but must have been aware it might not work! They seem to have a good relationship and are good parents. Amen
I’m an atheist but ladies and gentlemen, THIS is how it’s done. If you believe in god and the bible or any religion for that matter, this is what it’s about. This is TRUE Christianity. You can be religious while truly promoting kindness and tolerance and acceptance. Love this 💜
Also an atheist here, also shared your sentiments. Am also gay, a gay woman though. Feminist to the core and this short documentary was very interesting, moving, enlightening... the realisation of "reparative therapy" being highly misogynistic, I was really glad to hear about. What galls me about so many "loving", religious types is their refusal to accept the FACT that people and the animal kingdom alike, present live, partnership, companionship and friendship in every colour and shade of the spectrum. The "problem" is not the fact of someone's homosexuality! It's the devastating, toxic fragility of far too many people's sense of themselves that they fear it so much and fear that it will destroy what they hold dear and what they give importance to. I cant understand how somebody can preach love, acceptance, forgiveness, kindness in one breath, then damn and cast out other humans, inflict a lifetime of misery and depression and anxiety onto people they claim to love in their own families and communities, just because they cannot understand their expressions of love. If God is supposed to be the word and the final line, then why do people get to use their interpretation of this word to inflict anguish and condemn so many men, women and others in between of many ages to suicide rather than allowing them to take up their space and express love and nurturing in a different way? This film was refreshing to watch. I'm in the UK and have a trans Male friend, devout Christian, who is married to a Male priest, very high up in the Anglican church, they have 2 children and a great life together. Surely the end of this film, here, where the people involved are free to love, Express that love and live with the support of their community, needs to become the beginning part of EVERYONE'S story. Regardless of religious values or not. Kris: I am humbled by your ability to be so loving and accepting to be the person so instrumental in this story, enabling your best friend to become his authentic self and find peace. I do hope that you are able to express the love you have for someone in a relationship that is fulfilling, if that is what you need and choose to do as well. The wholesome acceptance of our rainbow of differences should not feel remarkable, it should be so mundane and unremarkable that documentaries do not need to be made about it to highlight it's exceptional nature. We should be unaffected by this kind of outcome because it is normal and average, not something to be made an example of. I'm truly glad that these men are now happy. I felt sick watching the first half of the film. I really hope Kris finds fulfillment in her life too, whatever shape that takes. You are a courageous woman, Kris. 💜💜
It follows from his own discovery of freedom in Jesus, that he would have wanted her to have a loving relationship of her own. However, it is quite possible that the love of her small children is enough to satisfy het at this stage. I'm sure many mothers would agree.
@@altavosloo9415 My impression is that the two men in this documentary will accept and support her in her relationship when or if she ever decides to include a spouse into her and their lives.
This Priest is a Priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. There are a lot of Provinces in the Worldwide Anglican Communion, including The Episcopal Church centered in the US, and the Anglican Church of Canada. The Mother Province of the Worldwide Anglican Communion is the Church of England. If people will notice, this documentary was made by the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
To jaypea51: I fully agree. AMEN to your comment. As a gay minister myself, tho I never married, I found peace and welcome in the (USA) Episcopal Church.
@@aiseakonrote5381 We as Christian talk about the second death. Jesús himself speaks about it in the gospel. Those who die in Union with Him will have everlasting life those who die in mortal sin will suffer damnation. This is specially true for believers for they knew and heard the good news of the gospel. May Christ have mercy on all of us.
What a great video, history and respect to love and harmony. We're here to learn how to love according to the Creator's laws, to live in peace with the diversity that It has been creating ever since, and help bring harmony into everyone who crosses our lives. Congratulation to everyone who worked constructively hard to come out with this video. What a beautiful family you 5 have. LOVE, LIVE, LEARN n LAUGH MAC
The Bible was written by men, to suit mankind living more than 1500 years ago. The fact Christianity has survived till now is surprising in the light of science. We now know It took hundreds of millions of years to create the world we live in. We can trace "creation" by dating rocks and fossils: from the early ammonites, to fish, to amphibians, to reptiles and then mammals. It took apes 2-3 million years to become "man" as we know it. We knew none of this when we listened to Jesus and saw him crucified. God never told us the evolution story. It then took 300 years to write the Bible (on an estimated 360 calf skins for the first edition). It would have been rewritten and corrected many times in the process - improved and adjusted by a plethora of "wise men" with changing ideas, interpretations, special needs and diverse cultures (but with no science/psychology knowledge). The fact the Bible survived till now with all its naivete speaks more about people's psychological need for comfort, hope, direction and a reason for being, than it does the Truth. Remember, it was written before man discovered that Earth was round, or that ours is one of thousands of universes. So in that knowledge vacuum, the Intelligent Design theory hinges on Adam and Eve who had four sons (no daughters) three of whom found wives (perhaps their mother). And later, other improbable yarns like the one involving Noah and his Ark. Jesus and the apostles obviously didn't know about evolution otherwise the Bible would have given God credit for it. In fact, God could have explained a lot of things through Jesus (including that many animals are naturally attracted to the same sex and that it is impossible to change their orientation). Too late now. The Bible "cannot be changed to suit man", so we must interpret it. Islam has a similar problem. The Koran advocates stoning homosexuals to death but in a poll of Muslims in London recently 30% disagreed. Similarly, Christian Fundamentalists won't let anyone queer their pitch. It's hellfire for all homosexuals and the Devil is in charge of it. The Catholics kicked Pip out as if he was a philistine. Understandable given the "One True Church's" reputation. However, a more pragmatic brotherhood, the acute Anglicans, who must have put the Bible's thesis up for queer review, noticed a few anomalies and decided to let Nature take its course. They hired Pip and made him a priest. For all the gay Christians or parents of gay or transgender children out there, I can hear them now: Praise the Pragmatists.
Sean Livingston I’m not sure if you’re joking, but obviously it is, what makes men better pastors than women? Also there’s many religions with female preachers/priests get with the times
One nice thing about Christianity in the Western World is that there exists a wide range of churches with varied beliefs. One can always leave a church that is not the right fit and find one that is. No-one should stay in a church that is psychologically, emotionally and spiritually damaging.
By the same token, it kind of underscores the fundamental lunacy of the project given there are literally thousands of different, competing versions of "the truth" - often times at odds with one another about the "correct" interpretation of their ancient tales.
@@MRayner59 The same can be said of any ideological group, be it religious, political or social. Once a group becomes large enough, people's being what they are, there will always be schisms and divisions within it.
It's difficult at best .... to have a very deeply, committal career in the world, and have a grounded comfortable authentic relationship ..... that really belongs to you! 💓👍💕
Thanks John, we're so glad that you connected with this part of our life story! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel if you're interested in seeing where we're at, today.
Thanks Patricia, Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel all about queer spirituality, psychotherapy and embodiment. We put out new content twice a week :)
@Stacy Caruso where does it say that celibacy is the only solution? Isn't in the bible that we should repent, be baptised and recieve the Holy Spirit? Because we are slaves of sin, and through baptism we become free from sin, we rise up IN Christ and the Holy Spirit will help us to silence our flesh and do the things according to Gods will? So we can be free?
@Stacy Caruso Excuse me. You are accepting words from a book , written 3-5 thousand years ago by a Jew, meant to be a ' guideline ' for the Jewish people. Regardless...these words ...whichever you all refer to...have been rewritten way too many time and adopted into the Christian Bible. We are all children of God , a benovelent God . How could a father condem his child, son ,to eternal damnation for loving another man when they both remain faithful to their God. God is Love, God wants us to Love . ' Live and let live '...' judge not lest ye be judged ' ... and if you have not sinned you are welcome to ' cast the first stone '. Just my humble thoughts, not looking for a fight. God bless.
I know two lovely young women who married gay Christian men who claimed they were "cured". Both of these women are now divorced and devastated because the love of their life did not and cannot stop their attraction for men. You do not want your daughters to go through this, I am speaking from experience...
He is not a man of God. He abandoned the faith, going so far in the opposite direction that it would make your head spin if you found out what his life is now.
It is sad humanly speaking of what he went through. But no matter what no one will change the Bible and what God says no matter what this world says is ok.
Kris is the most unselfish woman I’ve seen. Having said that, it’s not what she says that convinced me that she’s happy but what she doesn’t say between the lines that make me wonder whether she’s (really) happy with the situation. Pip became very queer asa he talked to Ms Drag, which shows he’s still performing ... I don’t understand why people choose to be in an environment we’re 90% of the Congregation disagrees with their lifestyle. Religion is a cancer, a confirmative pit hole of sorrow and make-believe. The fact that Pip was asked to leave his church and lost most of his friends should’ve been an eye-opener. Then again, it’s his life and he can do with it what he wants, asa he doesn’t hurt anyone around him.
Marcus NL I disagree. He has most certainly hurt his wife. Sure, she’s trying to remain positive and be supportive. Who wouldn’t like to hear all the positive comments about themselves as evidenced here? But one day she will be honest with herself and Pip and admit how unhappy she is.
How about Kris, did she and have she, and will she experience falling in love? What happened to her in 10, 20, 30 years, when the kids all grown? Will she, in time, long for fallen in love with someone who also fell in love with her?
Of course this video is going to raise controversy. Christianity and homosexuality reconciled? In the past, when I heard negatives comments about homosexuality, I usually remained silent. Not now. If you are NOT homosexual, why don't you invest your time and energy in something more productive rather than playing the role of God, quoting the Bible and judging other people. Does it make you feel more powerful and better than others ? Now, if you ARE homosexual or have someone near you who is, probably you need reassurance, love and inner peace or help. Some have lived most of their lives in shame and guilt. A horrible burden. And that hasn't help them to fix the problem. To find a community that is supportive is important, like the guy in this video. However, the bottom line is to find peace and acceptance inside ourselves. And believe that God somehow is going to make you live a life worth living.
His ex-wife is the real hero in this video. It is all because of her. He might suffer, but in the end, he got what he wanted. In the other hand, the wife has to make the sacrifices, and I do not see her playing the victim here and crying!
he has chosen the thorny path-much hardships are in store for him-unfortunately -i can see -life spares no one-life is hard and we pay a price for the smallest mistakes-he has committed big blunders -i do not wish him that-but in the process of seeking his own happiness he has hurt many
hello father. I am james Gifford. from Savannah GA living in blackshear GA. and as a Gay Man in pierce county I've found it very hard and I still feel depressed because I don't have any Gay friends in blackshear GA. I'm planning on going back to Savannah and be with the community.both the Episcopal Church community and the LGBT community in Savannah Georgia.
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Pip's description of his efforts to change his orientation through prayer and Bible reading sends chills down my spine - that was my path too, and I remember wondering why everyone else were heterosexual for free while, for some reason, something was wrong with me. Thank you for having the courage of telling this story.
I remember utterly pointless it was to pray for it to go away. We all did it when adolescence came. God was either incapable or unwilling to make me a heterosexual. Either way it was so wonderful to embrace honesty.
My honest opinion as a christian guy dealing with same sex attraction . He should have not married. but I do understand the circumstances he was in making that decision. In the end we all as human beings should take accountability for our own decisions, because GOD is the only one able to judge us as believers. My fullness of my identity is not for me nor humans to deside what I am... it is only God who can do that. And God says (Romans 8:17) we are sons and daughters we are heirs of the Kingdom of God. My sexual orientation is NOT my identity, my true identity is far beyond that. And for the sake of a healthy fear of God I choose to live a celebate life, because it honours the word of God, it honours my fellow believers and it honours my body which is the temple of God. This is a personal decision formed by my own experience, not forced by any religion or peer pressure. All I hope is that all believers find peace , hope , freedom and Love in Christ.
drew0909 your burden is great but great burdens forge great saints. God Bless you and your example.
Taking away the elaborate supernatural infrastructure that you've fabricated to justify avoiding doing what's necessary to ultimately resolve the issue you're dealing with, the decision to lead a celibate life may seem to be a less worthy endeavour than you've made it out to be in this "protesteth too much" testimonial.
Martin Rayner what do you suggest is the resolution?
Jesus shares His cross to His best friend. You carry your cross very well. No pain, no gain...no cross, no crown. Do not ever let go of Jesus.
@jacegil God did not make you that way. The fall of mankind did! If you blame anyone it should be Adam and Eve and don't forget Satan! God does love you just the way you are, if he didn't he would not offer you the FREE gift of salvation and eternal life. Life is short , eternity is forever.
I need to say... his wife (or ex-wife, whatever) is such an amazing human being! kudos to her for allowing the space, and for being so understanding instead of being upset!
I am an emotional person, and I do see in this video, her eyes, her distance, that she is not happy. May God grant her peace, joy and happiness.
I’m sure she has many feelings but she comes across as the type of woman to handle things logically and with empathy. She is a strong woman and a beautiful soul.
I feel sad for this family and will pray for them. Jesus Dining Mercy. I trust in You
Yes...he is Happy....you can see it in his face. ....somehow its Not the same with her.....
I hope that Pip n his new partner finds & helps Kris get her Happiness apart from their two sons.
Id love to be a part of this Church....A Church of God that Loves me n Who i Am.
@@drew0909 I suspect there is more projection than reading.
She has to have had nearly as difficult a path being duped into that false narrative that Evangelicalism pushes but doesn't deliver. She has been victimized by Evangelicalism in a similar way as he was.
This documentary changed my life. I am a 16 year old and was previously a catholic. I was struggling finding acceptance in the church being gay. When I discovered the Anglican Church through this documentary, which is very similar to Catholicism with the exception of it being affirming of lgbt rights, I felt something shift. I finally found acceptance with my Christian Faith and coexisting with my sexuality. When I turn 18 in 2021 I plan on fully converting to Anglicanism. Thank you Pip for changing my life, your story helped me finally be at peace
Hi my sister! I am not part of the lgbt community but I want you to know that God loves you and I support you! I was also previously Roman Catholic but I felt unaccepted there as a person of a minority so I somewhat understand the pain but not to the extent you felt it probably. God bless you
Please if you are serious about it, I encourage you to go to confession and learn what the church really teaches about homosexuality. You may have a misunderstanding o what the human is and how the church is involved with the salvation of souls. Know that you are called to be a saint, that is more than our natural state. You cannot ignore that the catholic church is the only church our Lord founded, be serious on your discernment. I am praying for you!
We're so glad that you connected with our story! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel all about queer spirituality, psychotherapy and embodiment.
God makes us, guides us and loves us! Being Christian and being Gay is totally compatible. Listen to the words and love of Jesus, not the interpretations of men and if need be find the right congregation that accepts you for you. Don’t let others guilt you or bring you down, live in love and peace.
I hope you reconsider your conversion and your faith. Believe in God because God exists. Believing in God because it fits conveniently with who you want to have sex with is an illegitimate reason for faith. It's no different than sales people who join a church so they can try to turn the congregation into customers. It's unethical. If God exists then God exists and if God does not exist then God does not exist. God's existence does not depend on your sexuality. Please don't deceive honest believers into thinking you're a brother Christian who has genuine faith when your faith actually rests on who you're sexually attracted to
I like that they were such true friends, that this "love" enabled them to deal with this huge problem with compassion and empathy because they cared for each other that much. This is a truly sad yet beautiful story.
Memory Malunga it’s not beautiful. It’s just a sad story.
She couldn’t wait to get that freak out of her life
Oh my dear Lord the devil is a liar... This story is very sad. Only God can help. Only Jesus.
Kids are so naturally loving and accepting of folk; proves to show that they are taught otherwise.
We completely agree, Nathaniel. Thanks for the support! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel that you might like
Unfortunately adults warp
"For some strange reason, the church could ruin just about everything for us, but that they couldn't take our real experience of the divine."
Whether you are LGBTQI+ or not, God loves EVERYBODY whether you like it or not!! Amen.
God loves everybody. How exactly does He do that? And where do you get this idea that God loves everybody. You seem to know Him. Or maybe you think you know Him. Your comment doesn't say much, honestly.
@@lucmalafarina1807 God loves all his children but that doesnt mean the consequences of their actions arent there, God hates sin not the sinners
@@lord12jsv68you have judged. And you will be judged.
I'm a non-believer who, as a boy, sang in a church choir but can't remember ever believing that there was a God, especially given the terrible things that were being done in his name and despite him supposedly looking over and out for everyone. If so, why do so many in the world suffer incredible misfortunes and mistreatment. The teachings of 'God' in all faiths is based on love, forgiveness, understanding, acceptance, tolerance, and inclusion. The problem is that those people responsible for the formation and oversight of the various religious 'organisations' base their beliefs, not on the 'word of God' but on their personal prejudices and this is reflected in the uncompromising attitudes of these religions. They cast out those who do not fit their idea of what is their interpretation of their 'God's word'. After all, religious books which tell you how to behave and think were written predominently by men based on their prejudices and experiences. If you believe in God, love your life as you believe your God would want for you and not as others interpret what you are meant to do.
So heartbreaking to watch. Just wanna give them a huge hug and tell them it will all be ok. Man, what a battle.
I think you get it.
so dramatic-u will find him on Church street-
This was a moment in time for both Pip and Kris to prove once again that God has no favorites. Their story is beautiful and nothing is more God like then the life they are living.
Joe Pepe there is nothing God like in the life he is living. The bible explicitly states homosexuality is wrong. You can search for a “church” that says your sin is ok, but you’re just fooling yourself.
Thanks for the support, Joe! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel that you might like
Such a powerful and moving documentary that breaks the shackles of the conservative evangelical movement ... What a breath of fresh air to feel God’s love and grace for all!
It's a turn away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ in reality, 1 Corinthians 6:9 says "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men". We all go through difficult circumstances in life in one way or another but embracing our sin is the opposite of what God wants for us. Proverbs 14:12 "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death."
I got married and had 3 children !! The Marriage was a complete Disaster.. After my Divorce I came out to my family.. And I've been happy ever since...
Peace with one's " own self" , as my kids said when they were little, and love for our fellow humans is actually like a rainbow .... emotional, beautiful, natural and light ... I hope you're all having a great time!
Thanks so much, Caroline! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel where we talk all about making peace with your own self - you might like it :)
What an amazing wife and mother he has in Chris! Major props to her for being so open and forward thinking and unconditional in her love and support of her partner.
What if she wanted to remarry and her husband lived with them? Would the kids then have 3 dads?
@@gmac8586 I agree married is a 2 way st not a 3 way street its very not the norm.
@@gmac8586 She would need divine guidance for her choice. I totally believe that's possible for God.
do not underestimate the cost to her. More than any human should be asked to endure. But women do it all the time.
God loves you the way you are. Don't fall for the negative sides, keep praying to god, and keep working on your life; and most important, your relationship with God.
You are just as bad as the Pagans. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9
Human effort could never match the righteousness of God. That is the reason Jesus died in our stead - that is why God's grace is invaluable. And Jesus Christ understands that we are not infallible. Anyone trying to say that there are people who are not worthy of the love of Jesus Christ are just modern-day Pharisees. Not even they in all their Mosaic Law & order were exempt from needing forgiveness from God through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. For ALL have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. Christ came to call the sick & the unloved that they may experience the mercy of God. 💛
You don't know God if you do not accept his Word.
Jesus Christ teaches us not to judge others. You don't know what these people are going through.
@@gregs3220 Matthew 7:1 - 2 For as you judge, so you will be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be used against you.
1 John 1: 8 If we say "We are without sin," we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
This 80 year old gay minister who also found a haven in the Anglican communion found your honest and sensitive testimony deeply moving and hopeful. God bless you and your ministry !!!👍
The Anglican Communion is in schism over this. You might say Anglican Communion vs The Episcopalian Church.
Just sharing there's a distinction.
Yes, thank you: I understand the distinction. The same may be said of Methodism / Methodist Church, out of which I have come.
@@deanaburnham9571 The Worldwide Anglican Communion is composed of a lot of Provinces. One of those Provinces is the Episcopal Church, which is centered in the US. Another Province is the Anglican Church of Canada. This Priest is a Priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. The Mother Province of the Worlwide Anglican Communion is the Church of England. If people will notice, this documentary was made by the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
Ms Burnham: Thanks for your clarification, which may help some persons understand this video and my use of terms; as I was aware of the film's Canadian origin, and I am of USA Methodist / Episcopalian origin, thus the more general terminology. As you no doubt recognize, one can't easily get all the background into. a single comment, so I am most grateful for your clarifying addition.
Thank you so so much for covering this. I have just begun on my journey with Christ and being almost 20 and gay has been really scary. Not growing up that religious but very spiritual I have always felt a connection to something divine. Seeing a church which affirms my self-expression and interpretation of the scripture is so so powerful
@@LittleFrog09 Every single one of us sin but I don’t think a God who is so loving, generous and all knowing would create us in his image only to be condemned to a life of sin. There is some things we just don’t know but we all know how much God loves us through his son Jesus and like you said you can feel it. Don’t let anyone tell you he doesn’t love you
I watched this one twice. The children in this family are growing up in such a loving environment.
Even though I am an atheist I would absolutely attend this church just for the community.
Thank-you for this one
Maybe you should find an atheist community.
Nicolle Olafson your an atheist and would go to a church, why?are you going to explain to these people that they are following in a manner inconsistent with the evidence? I mean, you place everything on evidence, right. Then go and explain to these people that their views do no align with the Law of both the Old and New Testaments. You should be able to agree with that statement.
@@mikazofstrum3268 Where is your husband? 1 Timothy 2:12 is pretty clear on the subject of speaking out against men - and the priest you continually rage against *is* a man. Where is your husband? Why are you breaking your own Biblical law?
E T well I think you assume you are interpreting 1Timothy correctly, obviously out of context and with the eyes of a modernist. Well, try if you can, to imagine the context of this letter from Paul. If you read the interpretations from the Catholic Bishops or Orthodox Bishops ( those with authority from Christ to interpret these passages), you will see that this refers to either a rebuke of a specific case in the Ephesian church and the establishment of proper conduct. Men are to conduct themselves with honesty and without judgement. Women are to learn in a peaceful manner without quarrel. Both men and women are warned against displaying the arrogance of Eve. Now, you make two errors in your argument. One, you mistake Paul’s instruction to a specific situation, for a universal teaching or code of conduct. To be able to ascertain Paul’s overall message, you have to see what Paul’s total message is. Remember Paul also states the “we are all one in Christ.” Two, your rebuttal to my argument is invalid. This is because my argument states that one must be consistent with Christian teaching to call yourself a Christian, which the subject of the video fails to be. You establish a red herring by comparing my apparent lack of adherence to Christian teaching to my claim regarding this video. This still does not address the content of my argument. Let me help you. You could be valid if you questioned whether or not Christianity actually teaches the doctrine that practicing homosexuality is sinful. That would force me to prove the point. Question my adherence to the faith does not do this validly.
Thanks for the kind words, Nicolle! We're so glad that you connected with our story! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel that you might like
I hope this incredible young man reads this msg. You are loved, and God would NEVER, EVER turn his back on you OR place conditions on his love for you. I am so happy you were able to finally live and enjoy your truth and what an incredible, loving and honourable Steward you are…Equality, Peace and Love to you and your beautiful family 😘😘
Brilliant. I think it's about time now that people should stop hiding their fear by hiding behind what should be a totally inclusive church. God bless you.
Christ can heal
This is a cautionary tale. If you're gay, accept yourself, your nature, and don't try this because you are involving others, will sooner or later have to admit defeat. Shame on anyone who tries to convince gay men that marriage is the cure.
Amazing...this is both my and my brothers story. We are both Christian, married to men, in ministry, and in our 70's. My brothers ex-wife is still his best friend and I still consider her my sister. they are still a family in raising their children and grandchildren. It does get better, especially when we learn to be open to Gods mercy, grace, and love.
Amen & amen!
@Tiger Lilly your past seems to haunt you....maybe your husband left you for another man because you were incapible to perform your duties -----
Dont Blame God for that by using Him as a Shield
Don't Blame Pip in this video ..for he has found Happiness n you Havent.
Dont Blame the Homosexuals for your Unhappiness.
BLAME IT ALL ON YOURSELF - YOUR CHOICES , YOUR ACTIONS N YOUR WORDS.
....no one else is the cause of this state youre in but YOURSELF.
Do you now understand Devil in Sheeps Clothing or is it appropriate to say " Devil in Tigers' Clothing " 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Try n have a Blessed time.
@@aiseakonrote5381 And what do you think Jesus meant when He send His disciples, including today's Christians, to go and preach the Good News, set the captives free?
Stop hiding behind "do not judge" to justify the promotion of sin, because this is exactly what this video and this testimony is about.
@@aiseakonrote5381 Can you guess who said this: Be Holy as Your Father in Heaven.
I am eager to hear what you respond to the author of this command, because you seem to be violently allergic to the idea of someone reminding their fellow believers that this is what God is calling them to be.
@@habibak.6234 just because you're envious of the Happiness shown in this video - you rant off your phobic feelings.
Keep ranting - Pip will always be Happy n others as well as me......n hopefully you too.
Cheers...Try n have a Blessed vision.😊😊
...Sooo good to see this story. Thank you and all who took part in delivering it. ..Powerful and important right now!
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Have Faith, spread the Gospels, be happy and leave the rest to God.
Yes
I don't think you've read the Bible 100% with accuracy check again.
@@Gerardo-dt8xf --- I have. It's how I know its god is cruel, homophobic and misogynistic.
A second thanks for your courage and compassion in posting this video. It has brought out a great deal of support for your insight into Christian compassion and pilgrimage, as well as "outing" a lot of ugly and mediaeval bigotry. I pray that all of your lives -- as God wishes, are evolving for you happily, and that your priesthood is prospering. (From the 80 year old gay priest) GOD BLESS AND GUIDE YOU 👍👍 !!!
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guess you forgot to read the book you claim to teach people about 🤨
@@thug588: And you obviously have failed to learn anything from its hero, Jesus Christ. No wonder you go by the name "thug" !! How singularly appropriate!!!
Quran, Muslim, and Christian bible all condemn homosexuality as an abomination. I will pray for both of us to repent. I also need repentance for my sins.
What a wonderful, powerful, emotional documentary. Thank you to all concerned for sharing this.
Thanku for sharing your story, it brought me to tears.I have been to churches and never felt safe and wanted.Thanks to u lam going to check out my local Angolan Church, and see there view on Gay people.Again Thanku.😁😁
whats so wonderful about a story that maybe told with eloquence, panache and yes emotions-analyze the dynamics of the turmoil generated as a result of the choice he made-so much complex confusion for those young children and the wife
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A hole lot of crap!
I hope Chris has found someone as well. I give her all the awards for the best human being in the world.
Yes, Elmer, so do I. She💐 courageously went into this marriage knowing the risk; but it must still be hard for her, and she shows even greater courage and compassion in accepting and publishing it's outcome. So, yes; if she wishes to find love in another partner, I heartily wish her the best ! God bless her !!!!
God loves all of his creation, but our sin separates us from God. He is calling us daily to repentance, turning from our sin and being back in communion with Him. We all struggle daily, but it's worth it!
Truely agonizing story and beautiful at the same time which is going on everyday for many of us.It would be really nice and happier moment if every story of such struggles becomes same like this mesmerizing live story...
I wish you the best! As an Anglican I am proud the people like you are opening the doors of walking with Christ. I am thankful for The Right Reverend Gene Robinson for standing tall during very tough times.
Blessings, David +
Parts of this was hard to watch for personal reasons. This was a wonderful short doc and I wish each one of you the very best. Its amazing to have a place to develop your faith and someone to go home to.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw You're right! He needs to ditch Christianity because there's no true religion.
@@mogotrevo The simplistic ideas the unbeliever ends up believing are his punishment.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw Which Christian religion are you? I'm Catholic, so should I say you're going to hell if you aren't, because some will. Should we listen to southern baptist, because they say they are the only way. I had stopped going to mass over 20 years ago, in the last 6 months I came back, because I realized I was there for God and not for others. God is about love, and I have a tough time believing and never will, that God would hold against me, the way he made me
@@Jukka70 The serpent whispers into Eves ear "Hath God said?" casting doubt on Gods Word. Eve eats of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In otherwords decides for herself what is good and evil. This continues even today especially when it comes to this issue. Jesus Christ is obedient unto death and sacrifices Himself. As Christians we are called to sacrifice according to Gods Word, not what the world decides. Sexual liberation is about political control.
@@JohnSmith-yr4mw there are so many arguments about this, we could go for days. So I will just say this. You have done your job following what you believe to be right. I now say back ty. I still believe that God knows what he is doing. Saying once to us is to inform, to say it more is to judge, and God does love us all
I'm so happy to see he's found the right path for his life. Now he can have the happiness as it should be and has hid faith. It's a beautiful thing and as it should be.
so this according to u is the right path? Marrying a woman-divorcing her-marrying a man and all 3 under one roof- as the man warms up and cuddles another man and the woman is left to nurse her wounds,all under the same roof
@@zulkifal111 What part did you get that they were all living under the same roof. I certainly missed that part. And even if so, that is their choice to do it. Their lives are not yours or mine. Living expenses are not cheap. And wirh staggered pay ans increasing cost, it becomes a survival thing. Can't say that this President is making anything easier for the non-rich.
THE SINS THAT CRY TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE
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True friends don't let friends get sodomized!
What has rape got to do with homosexuality?
@@StevenWaling Leviticus 18:22-25 Amplified Bible (AMP)
You shall not lie [intimately] with a male as one lies with a female; it is repulsive. [1 Cor 6:9, 10] You shall not have intimate relations with any animal to be defiled with it; nor shall a woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion. ‘Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled. For the land has become defiled; therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants.
Everything. @@StevenWaling
A biblical evangelical preaches the good news that God loves all of God’s creation. This video shows true evangelism: the surety of God’s mercy and compassion. Thank you for sharing this story. God bless you all.
Yeah he loves all creation but DOES NOT LOVE SIN. HAVE U HEARD OF GODS COMMANDEMENTS AND BIBLE
I read it in Hebrew and Greek. As a Baptist, my faith is grounded in Jesus/the gospels; all the rest is commentary to be read and understood in the context of the ministry of Jesus. Both Jesus and Paul warn against false prophets of which they are as many now as then. Read the first Chapter of John in Greek; it really opened my heart. I also follow what Jesus says about about Sodom.
@@leosun3203 God is bigger than the Bible
@@altavosloo9415 the bible is God s word. No bible means no to god
I forget sometimes how many good and truly loving people there are out there. So glad I stumbled across this video
I’m a SSA young man convert to Catholicism and I must say that though my sexuality is part of who I am, it is not the core of my identity. As a religious person my identity is first with Our Lord Jesus and His Church. I encourage anyone who wants to know the actual stance of the Catholic Church on homosexuals to read the Catechism or to hear talks which are available in this video platform given by Fr. Mike Schmitz.
I am aware that the video is not directly related to the Catholic Church. I just wanted to show another point of view from a religious person who is SSA. Also the fact that the person went to a congregation merely for their acceptance of his sexuality in my opinion is not a good sign. I converted from a church who could have accepted this behavior to the Church who teaches otherwise. I converted because I had to surrender to what had been revealed to me. The Most Holy Sacrament. It should be said that according to the Church beings SSA is not a sin itself though acting on it is. God bless you.
God bless you
@@gadielrivera1880 Yeah, no thanks.
Brainwashed
Schmitz tells people Catholics aren’t allowed to even go to gay weddings as guests. This from a man whose brother is gay. I used to think this was pettiness but this is a deep deep sickness in many Catholics. On this issue the church is unnaturally disordered and must repent of its mortal sin. Many of the hierarchy will burn.
Beautiful story and family! So inclusive and respectful.
Thanks Gerardo :)
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This story is so heart breaking. I am a believer and even though I would not be able to say that gay marriage is okay, I do believe that everyone should be allowed in church. The bible says that every sin is equal so if we don't allow every sinner into church, what kind of church are we? We all have fallen short of the glory of God and we are called to love God first and everyone else too. How could anyone be denied the love of God and be called to repentance if they are shunned when they are seeking God? I love that the church truly has a "Come as you are" attitude. In that respect, I agree.
REBECCA . THE CHURCH IS FULL OF REPENTANT SINNERS NOT THOSE WHO HAVE NOT REPENTED AND ARE LIVING IN SIN.
@@wendymitchell8245 I went to church before I was a Christian. I was invited by a good friend and I eventually repented. You can blame the church all you want but at the end of the day, we all have a choice. It is our own choices that we will be responsible for in the end...not what others have done.
Not every sin is equal. Some are worse. You wouldn't consider lying to be as bad as adultery, or saying something insulting to be as bad as killing someone.
I held my breath while watching this, it spoke to me. Thank You for sharing your story!
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I think through your courage, you have probably saved more souls, who felt excluded previously. Thank you and may God bless you.
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I really think that society as a whole has to wake up to the fact that we are and we are not going away any time soon, I am proud of who I am and I have no regrets what so ever as to what I am, I have this life from the age of 15 years and now at the age of 77 I can say without any regrets that I am a very happy person happily married to a wonderful man whom I have been with for almost 27 years. As for this documentary, I am very very proud of you as a man of the cloth you have opened your heart to a very loving wife and your new husband and that you have two wonderful children also this is amazing and all that I can say is God bless you and family.
Do not go to church, because you do not want to do the will of God. Continue as you do, but your lifestyle is ungodly. The scriptures say that all immoral people will end up in the Lake of Fire. Or repent, and sin no more.
John Hall You are right. Rebellion against God and His laws has been around since Lucifer fell from heaven. Doesn’t make it good.
@@margritwagner398 God will be the judge of that - not you.
Being "Happy" doesnt mean you are doing the will of God. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9
@@klarissaclairiton9010
Sacred Scripture, both in the Old and New Testament forbids homosexual acts, unchastity, adultery, masturbation, lewd acts.
God's already passed judgement on these actions.
Barrack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Mario Cummo and all the other worldly politicians who will say and do anything for your vote ...they aren't God.
This made me cry...in a good way. God bless you and your family.
You should be crying for him. This man has not given up all to follow Christ. He says, I will not serve.
may he rot in hell
Daryle Harris I am curious, how can you say this given the fact that both the Old and New Testaments confirms that homosexuality is a grave sin. You encourage this behavior despite what God says? His burden is great, yes, but loving God means obeying His commandments.
im so sick of people leaving comments talking about what made them cry. I DO NOT care about feelings.
@@ginomanshit2365 And that is a perfect example of what makes you a non-christian. Jesus would have never said that.
This was just so beautifu to see the story unfold. I honestly wasn't sure what to expect as this progressed. But a fantastic and fabulous wonderful outcome. So moving.
its a lie it goes against the bible and the body is sinful
i cannot in good conscience embrace your "teachings".
Get real -it was good if this was only a story-but this is real life drama unfolding
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What a wonderful man. This documentary will help many!
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Reverend. I wish you well in life. Much happiness. "Who am I to judge? " 🙏🙏🙏
A what a fantastic story ... of inclusion, of love and of understanding. Thank you for sharing this.
Thank you for your truly Christian comment!👍☺️
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“Coming out cost me family and all of my friends.” That was such a difficult thing to hear. The harm done in the name of Faith by those who profess the Love of God should seriously listen to this documentary. I am, however, so glad that from suffering came such a wonderful metamorphosis.
Simon Jenner don’t confuse harm with love. Harm would encourage someone to continue in sin. Love is turning someone to God so they avoid eternal damnation. Is that what you meant?
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Profound!!! Undeniably the very best story I heard on this subject. This one will stay with me the rest of my life. With all my sincerity--Thank You.
unfortunately u don't see how selfish the man is-so full of himself
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Thank u for being so honest. I pray for u & yr Family. U are still very fortunate for being in the US!
wow just powerful, I hope kris has found happiness and companionship
Potent story. The mission of the entirety of Jesus' life and the New Testament can be summed up in this: God is supremely focused on loving the "outsider". Pip's story is the personification of this message. Thank you Pip and God bless!!
Nope. "it is not right to take the children's [Jews'] food and give it to the dogs [Canaanites]." - Matthew 15: 26
Robert B Anderson read again. Jesus affirms the Law. He does not abrogate it. Don’t take what you like and leave out what you don’t. To love God is to obey Him. When Jesus saved the woman from the mob, He forgave her but also said go an sin no more. God’s Love does not include sinful behavior unless the sinner repents. Then His sacrifice belongs to you.
Christ's focus was / is on drawing sinners to Himself for their sanctification. But He forces no man.
Reject His commands, follow the world, seek every fleshly desire and listen to the demonic hoards...you've willfully drowned out the voice of God within you.
Nope, you people like twisting the word of God. Jesus ' love for insiders or outsiders has only One goal. Setting them free from the power of sin, death and hell. He never entertained the devil by encouraging anyone to stay in their sins.
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We are all children of God. Praise be to Jesus Christ. His mercy endures forever.
Nope, only a children of God if you repent and receive the Holy Spirit, otherwise you're a son of the devil.
Tell that to the churches that condemn us, cause shame for us, cause depression for us, cause non-acceptance of ourselves even as good people, cause us to commit suicide.............all religions are just "bad stories" and are sin themselves - they promote duality, polarization, wars and hatred. We don't need religions to be good, king, loving, wonderful, accepting people. Find spirit in any way other than religion - religion tells lies to people and stories that never happened. Nature and animals don't lie.
@@jgil1966 that is not a judgment you can make. You have no authority to do so.
@John Perry .....and no one has the authority to change the bible and the word of God or put words in his mouth
@@brendongross4119- take care of that log in your eye before you going around sticking your finger in someone else's eye. You have no authority to decide what is or is not the word of any god.
Thank you for sharing your story. It exudes love, self work, and commitment to God and your family. It seems all your good intentions paid off in the end. There is nothing sweeter than your sons dancing with the drag queens who have goodness in their heart to make people laugh. May God bless you in your journey forward.
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Pip has gone through real pain. He obviously missed some critical male bonding when he was young. But he and his ex-wife are very confused and are causing much damage to themselves and others.Example 1The fact of a man craving his wife is NOT about objectifying her. Married sex between man and wife is about mutual self-giving where two literally become one. It is an icon of the Trinity. It is so precious to God that He enables the couple to become co-creators.That is NEVER possible with same-sex couples.Example 2While God may operate in unexpected ways, He NEVER contradicts Himself. He has an established order that humans are duty bound to abide by.What He wants from us is simple: that we love Him back and abide in His will. That's it.What He wants is for us to do these things so we can get to our true home, the one He has prepared for us. Don't trade the eternal banquet that is our true inheritance for the temporary potato chips of this world.
Well said. God bless you.
Not many things make me cry, I'm 66 and never been in love, I never allowed myself the luxuray for even believing that's it's possible, I'm glad Some still do find a way .......
That's so tragic. Everybody deserves the pure joy, the feeling of butterflies in your stomach and the fierce protectiveness that comes with being in love. It is still possible, even at your age, if you'd only just believe it it is and then actively search for it. Believe! xx
It's still possible Fred. 66 these days is still relatively young.
so u cried and perhaps need a shrink?
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Such dignity and depth. Maybe we all yearn to experience your connection to the Divine... You touched my Soul... Thank you..
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This is my story. ..i thought i was alone. Thank you so much.
Alys, you are so not alone. Try to find a loving progressive church where you feel safe. The Anglican church has been striving to be that. In our community it is the bastion of Christ's radical love for people of all backgrounds.
Sending you loads of love! Stay strong!
@ Mira Celeste The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were progressive too, now their in the lake of fire...
@@breny3 i do not wish to live according to my orientation. ..i am catholic and want to submit to the church's teaching and scripture....but it just helped to hear of another person's struggle to be the spouse they wanted to be because of their orientation. I love my husband dearly but fail him daily because i cannot give him the physical intimacy he desires because of the ptsd and selfhatred that arises if i do. I grieve deeply for not being good enough. To know I'm not alone in that gives me comfort to my soul.
Forget Catholicism, it’s teachings are pagan. Get yourself a bible and read the New Testament, ask god to help you understand it and give you wisdom. God completely transformed my life by simply reading the bible and praying everyday. I suffered with severe depression / anxiety for 25 years. God healed me completely after 2 months of praying and reading. God also showed me sins I needed to repent of. Once I decided to get rid of sin in my life that’s when things really started to get better. Don’t despair. Jesus loves you and is waiting for you to cry out to him. Let him transform your life.
This was a moving testimony. Thank you so much for sharing!
The thing I noticed the most was the unconditional love. Too bad most churches I have attended have not been loving places and I am a straight older lady who needs fellowship.. I feel excluded in most churches. They have become money oriented and not
Houses of prayer and restoration for broken people who need a savoir named Jesus! I am not saying I agree with what was presented in this video, but there was undeniably love there.
Mary Wolfe no! Love only exists when we are in grace with God. You mistakenly saw desire as love. There can be no love without God. And Jesus said to love God is to obey His Law. Pray for these people but don’t encourage their lifestyle.
Et Tu Judas!😈❣🔥☦
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Wow, you did what I never had the guts to do. I always wanted the wife and kids but also knew I would never feel fulfilled. I am Catholic but would love to hear a few of your homilies. You are doing what you were ment to do. I am happy for you.
Wow.
The purpose of church is not "to celebrate who we are," but to celebrate Who God is. It's not to live "our best life" is this world, but to live for Him, exalt Him, and we can only do that through Him after accepting Him as our Savior.
Please seek God First. He is the jugde.
What shred of evidence can you provide to show that your god is real?
@@namelessrose3859 It's called faith. And also, how to you think we got here? Do you really thing that all of this can come from nothing? Look around you. Look at how complicated but wonderful the human body is. All of the atoms that make up everything around us. The wonder of nature, all of the beautiful stars in the night sky, galaxies away. You believe that those were created randomly through an explosion from nothing? Our world is so delicate and complex, something like that can only be created. Planned out, and hand crafted. Something can't just come from nothing.
I loved this so much! What a kind, amazing, courageous (gorgeous) priest!
I wonder if he was social media.
Thank You. This is so uplifting and giving hope to many. God does love us
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@@xrisandpip2791 HOW DO i FIND THE NEW CHANEL?
I am an ex-gay person. I suffered more with my gay peers and I learned a lot. I gave my burden to God. I am not interested in being with a man and getting married to one not to mention having children. However, I do love my gay brothers and sisters. It doesn't feel right to me so I decided to create new relationships with other people and started an online business.
Good for you. Now go in peace.
You my dear are perfect in showing how God is your First Love!!!!! Christ will give you millions of crowns to throw at The Father feet on that glorious day !!!! That will be where I will watch your love for our creator and Celebrate with Christ !!!
I just converted to the Anglican Church of Canada. Absolutely love it.
I can see the wife is been supportive, but also she seems to be lonely, is hard only one is happy ☹️
I loved this entire video, although I felt very strong empathy for Kris, the baby's Mother (if I have her name correct). As far as wishing: I wish at the very end, Pip (the Priest) would have, as he held the Host, smiled, looked fulfilled and happy. And, it the small circles that were rising up in the field of black behind them, I wish they had been coming down, symbolizing Christ's body being available to all the people for whom He died and gave His life, rather than being lifted or taken up, away from the people. This is a tremendous video. I can think, immediately, of at least 2,500 people who I wish I could invite to sit down and watch it.
Amen to that !!! Loved your comment.
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This makes me so happy. I hope the awareness of this grows in the church! Just be you! ❤️💛💚💙💜
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Thank you for your story. I am glad your family has found peace and happiness ❤️
what makes u think the family has found peace-he may have found momentary pleasure-peace and pleasure are different-family implies the wife and children-scratch the surface there maybe a myriad of emotions beneath the calm stillness
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Very nice what a uplifting message for us all. What a model you are for all the young men who need someone to lookup too.
My days are coming to an end but you gave me something to hope for tomorrow. May God YAHWEH an YESHUA bless you and
all yours.
Thank you . May you still have many happy and fulfilling days ahead.
The Church was founded by Jesus Christ and isn't open to a vote to validate whatever we want to do. We follow God's commands for true peace and joy.
Phil Lynch THe Spirit will guide us into all truth. The ancient Tradition of the Church is the the Spirit leads us by guiding the decisions of the community of faith: the bishops, priests, deacons, and laity who prayerfully meet in faith to discuss issues and listen for the guidance of the Spirit. The idea that anyone at all can read the Bible and whatever’s written there is the way things have to be is a relatively modern invention, developed by the Protestant reformers when they threw out the faith as it had existed for 1500 years and reinvented everything. Modern Evangelical Protestantism is a human invention, a radical reinterpretation of Christianity, and because of that, it has led to the reappearance of all the old heresies.
Wf Coaker very true!
Wf Coaker if you are suggesting that God’s word can change, you are gravely mistaken. God is eternal. That means His word and actions are forever. Any reinterpretation is heresy. Both the Old and New testaments confirm homosexuality is a grave sin. We don’t get to reinterpret this. Remember Jesus said He came to reaffirm the law not abrogate it.
Mika Zofstrum I don’t think that’s what he was saying.
It depends on what one chooses to obey. God or our emotions. God's is word will never change no matter what.
Thank you for sharing your life to us... it helps to open up windows in our lives.
Thanks Ferdie
I truly believe that God is love and that all are welcome in the church. No one should ever be turned away. Glad you’re happy but what about the wife/ex-wife.
She is a big girl. She can make decisions too. Sometimes a woman will love enough to accept things like this.....or polygamy.
God is love and endless mercy for those who repent but he s also justice ,horrible justice . He s holy and cannot stand sin although love his children and want their salvation .repent while u can , at death it's over. Utube saints visits to hell.
Have u ever considered castration .many done it it healed them
She was aware that he was gay before they married, and willingly entered into marriage with him hoping that therapy would change his orientation, but must have been aware it might not work!
They seem to have a good relationship and are good parents. Amen
Good for you, Chris. You have seen the point of this testimony clearly. God bless you -- and them !👍👍
remember, Jesus didnt sit with the rich, he sat with the outcasts
He sat with both. For example, Nicodemus was rich.
I’m an atheist but ladies and gentlemen, THIS is how it’s done. If you believe in god and the bible or any religion for that matter, this is what it’s about. This is TRUE Christianity. You can be religious while truly promoting kindness and tolerance and acceptance. Love this 💜
Also an atheist here, also shared your sentiments. Am also gay, a gay woman though. Feminist to the core and this short documentary was very interesting, moving, enlightening... the realisation of "reparative therapy" being highly misogynistic, I was really glad to hear about. What galls me about so many "loving", religious types is their refusal to accept the FACT that people and the animal kingdom alike, present live, partnership, companionship and friendship in every colour and shade of the spectrum. The "problem" is not the fact of someone's homosexuality! It's the devastating, toxic fragility of far too many people's sense of themselves that they fear it so much and fear that it will destroy what they hold dear and what they give importance to. I cant understand how somebody can preach love, acceptance, forgiveness, kindness in one breath, then damn and cast out other humans, inflict a lifetime of misery and depression and anxiety onto people they claim to love in their own families and communities, just because they cannot understand their expressions of love. If God is supposed to be the word and the final line, then why do people get to use their interpretation of this word to inflict anguish and condemn so many men, women and others in between of many ages to suicide rather than allowing them to take up their space and express love and nurturing in a different way? This film was refreshing to watch. I'm in the UK and have a trans Male friend, devout Christian, who is married to a Male priest, very high up in the Anglican church, they have 2 children and a great life together. Surely the end of this film, here, where the people involved are free to love, Express that love and live with the support of their community, needs to become the beginning part of EVERYONE'S story. Regardless of religious values or not. Kris: I am humbled by your ability to be so loving and accepting to be the person so instrumental in this story, enabling your best friend to become his authentic self and find peace. I do hope that you are able to express the love you have for someone in a relationship that is fulfilling, if that is what you need and choose to do as well. The wholesome acceptance of our rainbow of differences should not feel remarkable, it should be so mundane and unremarkable that documentaries do not need to be made about it to highlight it's exceptional nature. We should be unaffected by this kind of outcome because it is normal and average, not something to be made an example of. I'm truly glad that these men are now happy. I felt sick watching the first half of the film. I really hope Kris finds fulfillment in her life too, whatever shape that takes. You are a courageous woman, Kris. 💜💜
Thanks so much, Kylie!
What about the wife?doesn't she need a partner?-Is this only about him-his sexuality and fulfillment?
Exactly.
It follows from his own discovery of freedom in Jesus, that he would have wanted her to have a loving relationship of her own. However, it is quite possible that the love of her small children is enough to satisfy het at this stage. I'm sure many mothers would agree.
@@altavosloo9415 uh no why are you objectifying her?
@@gregs3220 exactly!
@@altavosloo9415 My impression is that the two men in this documentary will accept and support her in her relationship when or if she ever decides to include a spouse into her and their lives.
he is not reborn, Christ can do the impossible, seek the TRUTH. Be in the world but not of the world.
I am so proud to be an Episcopalian. We are all much more alike than we are different. We are so blessed to have this man in our church.
This Priest is a Priest in the Anglican Church of Canada. There are a lot of Provinces in the Worldwide Anglican Communion, including The Episcopal Church centered in the US, and the Anglican Church of Canada. The Mother Province of the Worldwide Anglican Communion is the Church of England. If people will notice, this documentary was made by the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
To jaypea51: I fully agree. AMEN to your comment. As a gay minister myself, tho I never married, I found peace and welcome in the (USA) Episcopal Church.
YOU are the good that has come out of all this. I wish I could meet you, I could use some help in the faith department. You did the right thing.
Thanks for the support, Ronald! Pip and I would love to connect on our new TH-cam channel :)
Sin leads to death and disorder.
There is only one sin: the belief in separation.
Death is for EVERYONE. ...NONE escapes it.
So whether you Sin or Not - You Still Will Die.
@@aiseakonrote5381 We as Christian talk about the second death. Jesús himself speaks about it in the gospel. Those who die in Union with Him will have everlasting life those who die in mortal sin will suffer damnation. This is specially true for believers for they knew and heard the good news of the gospel. May Christ have mercy on all of us.
@@Nonnobisdomine77 Indeed...May the Lord Have Mercy On US ALL.
and some evangelicals destroy lives
Emotional 😭. God bless you and your family Amen 🙏🏻 🇵🇷🇺🇸🙏🏻. Ps. We are all children of God.
What a great video, history and respect to love and harmony. We're here to learn how to love according to the Creator's laws, to live in peace with the diversity that It has been creating ever since, and help bring harmony into everyone who crosses our lives. Congratulation to everyone who worked constructively hard to come out with this video. What a beautiful family you 5 have. LOVE, LIVE, LEARN n LAUGH MAC
Thank you! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel, if you want to see what we're up to, these days! :)
Same time he is so lucky to have such amazing woman as best friend to support him..
Reason why I love CBC : THIS! Powerful doc. Wish you a happy life with your chosen family :)
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Remember the Bible it cannot be changed to suit man.
The Bible was written by men, to suit mankind living more than 1500 years ago. The fact Christianity has survived till now is surprising in the light of science. We now know It took hundreds of millions of years to create the world we live in. We can trace "creation" by dating rocks and fossils: from the early ammonites, to fish, to amphibians, to reptiles and then mammals. It took apes 2-3 million years to become "man" as we know it. We knew none of this when we listened to Jesus and saw him crucified. God never told us the evolution story. It then took 300 years to write the Bible (on an estimated 360 calf skins for the first edition). It would have been rewritten and corrected many times in the process - improved and adjusted by a plethora of "wise men" with changing ideas, interpretations, special needs and diverse cultures (but with no science/psychology knowledge). The fact the Bible survived till now with all its naivete speaks more about people's psychological need for comfort, hope, direction and a reason for being, than it does the Truth. Remember, it was written before man discovered that Earth was round, or that ours is one of thousands of universes. So in that knowledge vacuum, the Intelligent Design theory hinges on Adam and Eve who had four sons (no daughters) three of whom found wives (perhaps their mother). And later, other improbable yarns like the one involving Noah and his Ark. Jesus and the apostles obviously didn't know about evolution otherwise the Bible would have given God credit for it. In fact, God could have explained a lot of things through Jesus (including that many animals are naturally attracted to the same sex and that it is impossible to change their orientation). Too late now. The Bible "cannot be changed to suit man", so we must interpret it. Islam has a similar problem. The Koran advocates stoning homosexuals to death but in a poll of Muslims in London recently 30% disagreed. Similarly, Christian Fundamentalists won't let anyone queer their pitch. It's hellfire for all homosexuals and the Devil is in charge of it. The Catholics kicked Pip out as if he was a philistine. Understandable given the "One True Church's" reputation. However, a more pragmatic brotherhood, the acute Anglicans, who must have put the Bible's thesis up for queer review, noticed a few anomalies and decided to let Nature take its course. They hired Pip and made him a priest. For all the gay Christians or parents of gay or transgender children out there, I can hear them now: Praise the Pragmatists.
That’s hilarious because humans ignore many parts of the bible to suit their horrible behaviors
Exactly
@Joe Smith
Nowhere in Scripture does God tolerate sexual acts between 2 men or 2 women. St. Paul called those acts of lust "unnatural'.
Sean Livingston I’m not sure if you’re joking, but obviously it is, what makes men better pastors than women? Also there’s many religions with female preachers/priests get with the times
One nice thing about Christianity in the Western World is that there exists a wide range of churches with varied beliefs. One can always leave a church that is not the right fit and find one that is. No-one should stay in a church that is psychologically, emotionally and spiritually damaging.
By the same token, it kind of underscores the fundamental lunacy of the project given there are literally thousands of different, competing versions of "the truth" - often times at odds with one another about the "correct" interpretation of their ancient tales.
@@MRayner59
The same can be said of any ideological group, be it religious, political or social. Once a group becomes large enough, people's being what they are, there will always be schisms and divisions within it.
It's difficult at best .... to have a very deeply, committal career in the world, and have a grounded comfortable authentic relationship ..... that really belongs to you! 💓👍💕
THANK YOU for sharing this story!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks John, we're so glad that you connected with this part of our life story! Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel if you're interested in seeing where we're at, today.
That poor woman.
I am getting the vibe that she entered the marriage for the same reason.....
Oh how this has brought me to tears....which is a rare occasion being on anti-depressant!!!
Thank you fir sharing your story!
Thanks Patricia, Pip and I have a new TH-cam channel all about queer spirituality, psychotherapy and embodiment. We put out new content twice a week :)
Skin and flesh Jesus took on was good and we are all different so use your body in the world as you wish? Which book is that in??
Yea, there is no such thing.
@Stacy Caruso where does it say that celibacy is the only solution? Isn't in the bible that we should repent, be baptised and recieve the Holy Spirit? Because we are slaves of sin, and through baptism we become free from sin, we rise up IN Christ and the Holy Spirit will help us to silence our flesh and do the things according to Gods will? So we can be free?
@Stacy Caruso Excuse me. You are accepting words from a book , written 3-5 thousand years ago by a Jew, meant to be a ' guideline ' for the Jewish people. Regardless...these words ...whichever you all refer to...have been rewritten way too many time and adopted into the Christian Bible. We are all children of God , a benovelent God . How could a father condem his child, son ,to eternal damnation for loving another man when they both remain faithful to their God. God is Love, God wants us to Love . ' Live and let live '...' judge not lest ye be judged ' ... and if you have not sinned you are welcome to ' cast the first stone '. Just my humble thoughts, not looking for a fight. God bless.
I know two lovely young women who married gay Christian men who claimed they were "cured". Both of these women are now divorced and devastated because the love of their life did not and cannot stop their attraction for men.
You do not want your daughters to go through this, I am speaking from experience...
This made me believe for the first time that it's ok to be gay and know that I can truly have faith in God in my life.
Never forget - The Lord is the same ystrdy, 2day, and forever, no shifting Shadow is in Him
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I'm a Roman Catholic myself, but he is truly a man of God. It took alot of courage to take the course he did, and God bless him for it.
He is not a man of God. He abandoned the faith, going so far in the opposite direction that it would make your head spin if you found out what his life is now.
It is sad humanly speaking of what he went through. But no matter what no one will change the Bible and what God says no matter what this world says is ok.
Kris is the most unselfish woman I’ve seen. Having said that, it’s not what she says that convinced me that she’s happy but what she doesn’t say between the lines that make me wonder whether she’s (really) happy with the situation. Pip became very queer asa he talked to Ms Drag, which shows he’s still performing ... I don’t understand why people choose to be in an environment we’re 90% of the Congregation disagrees with their lifestyle. Religion is a cancer, a confirmative pit hole of sorrow and make-believe. The fact that Pip was asked to leave his church and lost most of his friends should’ve been an eye-opener. Then again, it’s his life and he can do with it what he wants, asa he doesn’t hurt anyone around him.
Marcus NL I disagree. He has most certainly hurt his wife. Sure, she’s trying to remain positive and be supportive. Who wouldn’t like to hear all the positive comments about themselves as evidenced here? But one day she will be honest with herself and Pip and admit how unhappy she is.
@@kalani431 She knew the truth about his gender confusion when she agreed to marry him, didn't she?
What amazing courage. Your family is truly inspiring!
courage to disobey God hmm he might have courage but he is not following the true God
Who are you to pronounce whether this man is disobeying God?
the bible clearly does it and i am a witness so there
Thanks Edina
How about Kris, did she and have she, and will she experience falling in love? What happened to her in 10, 20, 30 years, when the kids all grown? Will she, in time, long for fallen in love with someone who also fell in love with her?
That's true. I feel sorry for her.
Of course this video is going to raise controversy. Christianity and homosexuality reconciled? In the past, when I heard negatives comments about homosexuality, I usually remained silent. Not now. If you are NOT homosexual, why don't you invest your time and energy in something more productive rather than playing the role of God, quoting the Bible and judging other people. Does it make you feel more powerful and better than others ? Now, if you ARE homosexual or have someone near you who is, probably you need reassurance, love and inner peace or help. Some have lived most of their lives in shame and guilt. A horrible burden. And that hasn't help them to fix the problem. To find a community that is supportive is important, like the guy in this video. However, the bottom line is to find peace and acceptance inside ourselves. And believe that God somehow is going to make you live a life worth living.
His ex-wife is the real hero in this video. It is all because of her. He might suffer, but in the end, he got what he wanted. In the other hand, the wife has to make the sacrifices, and I do not see her playing the victim here and crying!
@@Timeless80 she is a hero.
he has chosen the thorny path-much hardships are in store for him-unfortunately -i can see -life spares no one-life is hard and we pay a price for the smallest mistakes-he has committed big blunders -i do not wish him that-but in the process of seeking his own happiness he has hurt many
They probably let her join in sometimes.
hello father. I am james Gifford. from Savannah GA living in blackshear GA. and as a Gay Man in pierce county I've found it very hard and I still feel depressed because I don't have any Gay friends in blackshear GA. I'm planning on going back to Savannah and be with the community.both the Episcopal Church community and the LGBT community in Savannah Georgia.
Living a sinful life will not make you happy. Only God can do that, but you must give up sex.
James Gifford how do you reconcile the law of God and your choice? Do you just believe the passages that suit you?
@@figurefour633 You must give up sex... pffft easy for you to say!