Yea i remember He tried to hide behind some shit about we've been having conversations behind the scenes. Then eminem dissed him gain in MTBMB. Then he laughed off. Eminem dissed him literally 4 times in Fall, killshot, bang and you gon learn. But joe too scared to respond
Exactly like he’s the biggest clown all Joe do is gossip and talk sht like a female I don’t understand why all of sudden he’s getting applause from ppl he just doesn’t have that energy w Math unlike he did wit his two yes men that were on his payroll
Why would anyone want Budden on their show, he literally dodged and deflected every question. And honestly, shame on everyone in that barber shop for letting him get a pass!
I sometimes can't believe I bought Joe Buddens first CD. U just never know how lame someone is in real life when they are so talented. This dude was a extremely skilled lyricist. Who had any idea he was a Cornball? Not me.
You never know what Joe you gonna get. Sometimes he’s super engaged in the messy stuff then other times he speaks like he’s above all the drama and try’s to look down on the people who are entertained by it.
Joe unfortunately wasn't sincere and actually was way over his head with his arrogance. Huge respect to Math for being the bigger and better man and not taking offense and feeding to Joes patronizing responses and tone. Joe is a punk for this one. Straight up.
After Joe heard Eminem's tracks he was looked for week's in his closet and was crying. He was with Tom Cruise in Kyle's closet and didn't wanted to come outside.
Math kept it super professional……Joe deserved to be slapped at least 3 times during these interview clips. Joe is just a person you don’t like being around.
Joe is a momentum stopper. The content on this show has been great over the last weeks. Joe just single handedly mess that up. He is the most defensive, non defensive person you will ever meet. He is great as a interviewer, but horrible as an interviewee.
Are you serious? Math was asking him about stupid gossip that Joe ain’t never been in the mood to talk about. Math should know that stop with the click bait talk and have real conversations.
I'm from Brooklyn... so I'll say this. Math seemed like he had a long day and also didn't expect this version of Joe to pull up. Now, things couldve easily gone *sideways* BUT he thought about it, called an audible and redirected the questions to team. A+
Respect to math for being professional. It's all a learning experience, Just give them a chair like everyone else because Joe's chair leaning back gave him a real lackadaisical look, and he played along with that. You guys have a great podcast, respect.
‘I don’t need a reason to diss a rapper’ is the most disingenuous statement this guy could’ve said. He made 3 full songs totalling 1735 bars for Drake and no one cared cos the alley-oop wasn’t strong enough He fully understands the importance of having a back and forth narrative so yeah Em actually gave him an alley-oop. Smh
@@joshwelch5837 If there was a strong enough storyline fans would’ve digested a joe and drake back and forth but the alley-oop from drake wasn’t strong enough so it just looked desperate!
I love the show but Joe pissing me off trying to play math on his own. Trying make math look stupid or silly for the questions he asking. But the whole hood are asking these same questions 🤔 Joe might be hating on math because math show is popping right now and Joe's is not. Low key hater 😒
He wasn't trying to make Math look stupid. Math was making himself look stupid asking questions about beef from 10 and 15 years ago. To be a great interviewer you need to understand who you interviewing. And just because you love this show and not Joe's show, don't be foolish. The Joe Budden Podcast is still 🔥
@@jaywilliams4750 you dont know what you're talking about. It wasnt all rainbows but... Bruh said "Phuck records you inspire me as a man" Sounds like a love letter to me. 😭😂
Does Joe know the point of being invited on a podcast? People tune in (I would think) to a personality being on a podcast to be asked questions that the hosts and fans of the hosts have. He could dismiss any topics he wants on his own platform but why not just go with it on someone else’s 🤷🏽♂️
Joe spent a whole episode screaming in the Mike about em just mentioning him once hahaha now all of a sudden it didn't mean anything. I wish people people would call these people out on their bull****
Wow it never ceases to amaze me how many dudes will sit in the room and not fat check each other but they all somehow have expert opinions... I'm still in the beginning and I just listened to three people till three revised versions of how all three of those subjects went down
Salute to Math, i woulda cut this interview short with Joes energy... Seems like Joe hating cos this pod is popular. Joe dont remember the Eminem diss? Joe forgot about his angry rant to respond? Joe mocking Math for talking about other men, when thats all Joe been doin? Dont bring that dude back....
Bruh the Eminem beef was literally YEARS AGO!!! Why is math bringing up a beef from years ago for no reason? All math clips so far have been nothing but clickbait questions. I feel joe, like why the hell are you asking me bout a rap beef I had in 04 with game? Like wtf? That’s not weird to you? Lol
@@blackjesus4525 if you look at all Math's interviews, he asks all his guests questions from when they first started to get a broader perspective. This wasn't something specific to Joe.
@@illduce7288 negro what? What does that have to do with him asking clickbait questions bout beef? I know he ask questions bout their past, but all of them if any of them are not click bait questions. I’m watching the one he did with treach now and he’s asking him shit bout back in the day, but it ain’t no gossip shit
Didn't diss Em but talked of coming outta retirement several other times to battle Cyhi, Lupe, Mickey Factz etc 🧐 never known Joe to b selective he dissed a lotta dudes but he did look scared n this situation .. n skillwise I would much rather see Joe vs shady than Drake ijs lol
I don't understand why he even has a Podcast, there is absolutely NOTHING interesting about him, and this interview and his behavior just highlighted all of that... Math, mad respect for you for being BIGGER...
Maybe When Joe is asked a question that might make him look weak, his strategy is to deflect by acting like the question is stupid or even belittle who is asking it. Em didn’t take the first shot, Joe did, time after time being disrespectful in interviews. Did Joe wait till he was retired to take those shots at Em? I think he did. Has Joe eased off the Em disses since Em’s most recent disses toward Joe? I don’t know. Respect to Math for putting up with the difficult and condescending Joe.
My point exactly nigga keep talking that when I was outside shit, When u was outside you never dissed Em, u never said shit all he did was try to get out that slaughterhouse deal ! Then he sit down with his friends and act like em was scared when he was rapping Foh ! And if he did shit was subliminal and nobody heard the song or knew wtf he talking about 🤷🏾♂️😂
I don’t understand why folks haven’t seen podcast Joe at work. He will NEVER bring his A-Game outside his own endeavours. People like that, you don’t invite as a guest… EVER. The podcast game is VERY different to the HIP HOP game. In rap, if you are a feature on someone’s track - the intention is to always be the BEST MC on the track. Why? Because it creates value/notoriety as an MC within the world of Hip Hop. Joe knows this. Joe is also the prime example of the podcaster who under performs on someone’s platform. The reason: the content isn’t his! He’s value/notoriety as a podcaster is only essential on his platform. Math is pure at heart with this show! I appreciate that! Watch out for all the “joes” - Rogan and buddens. They’ll always under perform on away games…
You know Joe actually said something along those lines during the SH drama recently. Something about if I'm gonna talk about it might as well do it on my own platform, for the reasons you said. So yeah.
Joe is a “Moment” person. How ever he feels in that moment, thats how he gonna play it. People like that have you sitting there like “i swear he said this last week, now he wanna switch it up??”🤷🏽♂️
Salute to Math Hoffa and all the guest host As a healthy viewer and dedicated subscriber Its time for Math to make some type of exclusive club so that members can get early access to the Interviews
In a sense, Joe came off hella condescending when it came to the line of questioning from Math. But it also shows how these content creatives regurgitate the same talk points all the time. This was hella awkward. But it’s a teaching moment to content creatives. Folks really need to learn how to build conversations outside of current events and pop culture.
I agree. He's always spinning and rambling, which in effect never answers the question. His whole episode is going to be like these clips. Even when he was talking about Rory and Mal he never made any sense
Agreed. There are so many more talking points and things as a culture that can be discussed. However.......its reasons they don't bring that talk to their platform. Bigga attempts to do so and at times and it works. When they had SMART on here it was a real different build and I so appreciated it. Math is a great mind and orator, his repertory is much greater. This talk with the narcissist that is Joe B......does nothing to move the conversation or culture forward. 😒
@@gstacks2110 facts. Math has been doing this a while now and still can’t really carry a conversation correctly. The show has so many dry spots at times simply because he doesn’t know how to pivot when he can’t get the gossip he was reaching for…or to simply get his point across. They ramble a lot on here now 😂
@@TTSantiago821 I totally agree. I actually enjoyed the episode with Smart a lot. But nowadays, MEO literally feels like the same redundancy you sometimes get from actual barbershop talk. Its only so much to talk about when it’s discussed everywhere everyday. There is tons to talk about with Joe. He really needs to dig a little deeper with the conversations.
The funny part, Jay Z tried to keep 50 off the halftime show and Eminem said he's not performing if 50 isn't there. This was confirmed. So why do y'all think he doesn't have sway when he's IN CHARGE of the Superbowl?
Facts. Joe's just saying Jay shouldn't be publicly held responsible for his choices by black men. He thinks they should falsely throw a random white guy from the NFL under the bus to cap for Jay.
@@jeffdye7176 Please get serious all he's doing is letting his Stan's rally cmon Thanos snap your fingers because if he doesn't he will never be respected by today's consumers
Ok here’s my take. Joe was expecting a normal barbershop chop up like they usually do and didn’t think it would be solely Math grilling him. Joe feels like Math is looking for a click baity title and he’s not going for it. Math is high energy and Joe is being reserved and stand offish, not good for tv lol.
Bro this is Joe 2nd time on Math show . So he knows how math interview people! He does the same thing Joe does or did ! Joe knew what he was getting into ! Math was professional with him.
@@ELITEPSYCHE100 While I agree with you I also have to say Joe was helping him sharpen his interviewer game by doing this, Joe is just weird like that he’ll disrupt the whole energy of the show to prove a point nobody cares about lol.
I think its simply what you said.. joe expected a regular convo.. its all sorts of things they could of been talking about joes its like why are we even speaking of this.. i think it threw him off
2000s..early 2010s Joe Budden one of my favorite rappers. But the way he moves/talks ruined him for me. We could never be friends lol. Mood Muzik 2 fire tho
Co-sign for sure. Joe has skills. But after seeing how he moves as a person, I have 0% respect for him. Can’t doubt the skills but I can’t get past the man himself
Now it comes to me lol I remba you beating up homie on stage when I was younger , blessed to see ya growth real g shit I'm 36 now and I see you homie keep doing ya thing , power to the people
Joe is one of the biggest con artists in hip Hop industry you want to know why he didn't respond because he didn't want that smoke, he sat there on his podcast ranting about him and when Em responded which he responded a couple times especially on the Bang track with Conway, at the end of it Joe pleaded saying that Em should stop dissing him that he had no problems with Em. moral of the story Joe is a clown 🤡🤡🤡
I think y’all forgot besides the fact he’s not on that tier with the rest of those entertainers….he’s been in a pretty long one sided beef with Jay z for years!!! So if Jay is in charge of the talent clearance why would he clear a Nigga who’s been nothing but disrespectful towards him T he entire time he’s been on…
Also like Joe said jayz prolly doesn’t make the final decision for who performs at the NFL there’s other people in the background who make those decisions
I think it was probably more of a dre decision. Nore said he asked jay was it his decision not to have game and jay was like "I cant tell dre nothing". So it like even though im overseeing this dre still that dude I can't tell him who to have.
@@germainerashad1997 I saw that today as a matter of fact I agree completely… keep in mind too game has talked slick about Dre before so I’m sure he didn’t need no extra stress from that nigga especially like snoop said having had an aneurysm and a divorce game is too much sometimes so I could see why Dre wouldn’t want him up there and he only had 12 minutes
Joe: says he’s “not used to talking about so many men” Also joe: literally has a podcast discussion rappers for last 6 years or whatever. Lol this dude is legit crazy
This was hard to watch and you could've told Joe to leave because he did not really put much into the convo. Joe is comfortable when it's all about him, he wants to be the only alpha in the room. This is why I stopped watching his podcast a long time ago. I like the energy of this room because even though it's Math he still involves everybody and it's really like a barbershop talk.
From what I understood RocNation curated the Super Bowl Halftime show. So that would mean it was Jay helping lead the decisions on who performed and who didn’t. If that’s the case then it’s automatic that Jay would choose the most recognizable names to perform. I read an article saying In 2019, the NFL launched a partnership with Jay-Z and his company Roc Nation that put them in charge of the league's entertainment options, including the highly-viewed Super Bowl halftime show.
Joe can miss me with all this sanctimonious condescending, I don't know what you mean, I'm above XYZ, when you are a podcaster yourself and know the vibe of hosting. You ask the hard question. Trying to make Hoffa look silly or shallow for asking certain questions. Like he's pursuing click bait. Like he's not a podcast host who asks these sort of questions of his guests, if he could ever have guest. There is a reason, he doesn't have many guests on his show. He's too self-absorbed. Joe is trying hard to distance himself from his image of having beef with people. And to talk about it, forces him to be reminded that HE is a large part of the reason he falls out with people. That's why he's trying to act like the past is so irrelevant to who he is and how he moves now. He just wants it all to go away so he can press reset and pretend he's a new ZEN guy. In other words, he is a moody man who is hard to enjoy and get along with because deep down he know he's screwed up bad and burned bridges with important people. He's giving bitter, I don't like myself, and I need lots of therapy vibes because he is a slave to his ego that won't let him admit how he's screwed up with certain people That's he key to his freedom. He's giving female energy with all this complaining about the nature of the RELEVANT questions about the past he wants people to forget. He knows his reputation is sullied and his podcast is not doing that great--anymore since we've seen him be so emotionally immature. So he has to tread lightly about the big names he's beefed with as he's heard the audience feedback on his negativity. Now I'm wondering if Joe low-key jealous of Hoffa's TH-cam come up. Is he mad Hoffa got MANY genuine male co-hosts? Got A-B list celebs revolving through his show? His energy toward Hoffa is mad moody, like a female.
@@ELITEPSYCHE100 Exactly. I watch Hoffa everyday. I love to see these men conversate. I love the diversity. Sean Bigga shares my worldview and why I stay tuned in. I like that they welcome a Christian perspective. Anyhoo. Joe is too self absorbed. And, I think he's low-key jealous Hoffa. He can see the chemistry and maturity of the co-hosts on this show. I stopped watching him too cause he exhausts me with this ZEN pseudo-intellectual analysis of hip hop and the very people he's trying to avoid talking to Hoffa about. He's like I'm not giving you no viral sound bites for your show. Why even come on? It was like he was playing chess to protect his reputation and to NOT give Hoffa any vulnerability or honesty--aka viral moments. He's not going to last long. He's going to either self-destruct or turn totally brand new into a Hollywood square in order to maintain the income status he as risen to.
Hey Joe whats todays date? “Well what exactly is a date? And why do you think a date has anything to do with where im at mentally right now?” Crosses legs* Joe stfu 😂😂
@@PromosMakeCents Most of Budden's clout (especially back then) comes from being an industry veteran and lyricist chops - if he picked up the gauntlet and got washed after claiming he's been better for 10 years it would've had a negative impact on his podcast. Not responding on wax was the smart move for him.
@@504gucci4 funny because Joe wasn’t throwing shots when he was active 😂🤣. He supposedly waited until he was retired. That’s to funny. It was a scared way excuse to bail out.
@@noydb8310 he just said he went at Jay and in the video clip they ask about and Game. Matter of fact 50 was a part of that too. Joe was throwing shots when he was active lol. You just aren't old enough or didn't pay attention.
Jay Z is over HALF-TIME ENTERTAINMENT. Sometimes Joe covertly harasses the peace on purpose. He loves to play devil's advocate, which turned him into a PROFESSIONAL GOALPOST MOVER! Sadly, I love listening to him. (lol)
As someone bipolar, he is extremely bipolar. He ranted for almost 2 hours after he heard it on his podcast, but now.....he chill. Heavy medicine or he learned a very hard lesson behind the scenes
The Game might be known for “naming names,” but Chino XL already innovated this style of rapping over a decade before him. Please get XL on-he’s sharp, plus he could explain the explosion of Hip-Hop in Jersey during the late eighties into the nineties!
Joe is the greatest non-answerer thats ever lived, shoulda gone into politics
If he number one, MurdaMook gotta be runner up
Joe def should go into politics he got more excuses than Hilary
100% agree
Facts
🏌🏾♂️
Joe is the person that sits down for an interview and acts like the person is trippin for asking questions, fam is real extra.
All I gotta say is Joe did an hour and a half podcast rant after Em gave him 3 bars. Now he wants to act like it isn’t worth asking about? Ok, lol
Exactly! And also Em’s shots on that Conway song “Bang” were fire 🔥
That was how many years ago ? its not worth talking about now
@@Fightthepower718 STFU it's relevant, it happened, it was a moment. Joe is a coward.
@@Fightthepower718 Why not? So because it didn't happen last Thu, you can't talk about it?
When Was It YEARS AGO? Why Entertain It Now... Is Joe's Thought....
He LITERALLY dared Eminem to do it. And when Em did it Joe did nothing
Eminem called him an Fckd up remote button. You press but he does nothing though 😂.
Yea i remember He tried to hide behind some shit about we've been having conversations behind the scenes.
Then eminem dissed him gain in MTBMB. Then he laughed off.
Eminem dissed him literally 4 times in Fall, killshot, bang and you gon learn.
But joe too scared to respond
Cap.
Em called a retired man out. Like how bron calls out Jordan 😂😂😂. I'm with budden
@@MrRop-yp3wt
Sounds like whatever joe said struck a nerve with em ijs 🤷🏿♂️
@@misters4022 budden was all too happy to jump out of retirement if ghillie went at him, but we just gonna forget about that now, huh? 👀
"Why you want to talk about so many men"
Joe you literally been doing that twice a week for 5 years
I'm sayin
Ikr, he killing the vibe
Facts
He gives us 4 pods a week.. 2 more on Patreon... 🤣
Exactly like he’s the biggest clown all Joe do is gossip and talk sht like a female I don’t understand why all of sudden he’s getting applause from ppl he just doesn’t have that energy w Math unlike he did wit his two yes men that were on his payroll
Em never took the first shot at Joe
Joe been talking BS about em
Let's not get it twisted
The mean the first shot on wax
Respect to Math for maintaining his composure, Joe's gotta be one of the hardest people in the industry to interview
that's cuz he really good at the misdirect
Yeah I was like he better watch out before he gets dosed
2010 Math would’ve already knocked Joe’s block off #growth
I didn’t see that I saw him smiling but Idk
💯
Why would anyone want Budden on their show, he literally dodged and deflected every question. And honestly, shame on everyone in that barber shop for letting him get a pass!
Facts!
Yeeeeees! Truth!
Joe Budden is hilarious. He talk about men for at least 8 hours a week.
At least!
And dudes like you talk about Men the other 16 hours In a YT comment section. 🙄
@@romeod7549 joe budden d rider lol
His 5th highest viewed podcast is a whole rant about being better than Em… Em hits him with 2 bars then it’s “I’m not outside now” 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️
I sometimes can't believe I bought Joe Buddens first CD. U just never know how lame someone is in real life when they are so talented. This dude was a extremely skilled lyricist. Who had any idea he was a Cornball? Not me.
A super corn ball
You never know what Joe you gonna get. Sometimes he’s super engaged in the messy stuff then other times he speaks like he’s above all the drama and try’s to look down on the people who are entertained by it.
Bingo
Facts
Bipolar disorder
That was a great fcking break down
🔥🎯💯❗
Joe unfortunately wasn't sincere and actually was way over his head with his arrogance. Huge respect to Math for being the bigger and better man and not taking offense and feeding to Joes patronizing responses and tone. Joe is a punk for this one. Straight up.
Joe is indeed a buster
Joe is a master at taking the conversation where he wants it to go instead of where the other person wants it to go.
Which is good thing depending on the convo
That’s what makes him a democrat 😩😩😂🤣
Joe’s condescending nature made this shit mad awkward…
Facts. So annoying. Don’t invite him ever again. He’s a clown
I appreciate math finally trying to ask joe the questions we have all been wanting to get him to answer
After Joe heard Eminem's tracks he was looked for week's in his closet and was crying. He was with Tom Cruise in Kyle's closet and didn't wanted to come outside.
Joe is something else man. He said he don't wanna sit around and talk about other men...when that's what you do from your couch SMH
Exactly so he not trying to go on another show and do the same thing you 🤡 joe pulled up so talk to Joe about Joe.
He’s not trying to do it on another man’s platform. On his he’ll talk about men all day long.
Math kept it super professional……Joe deserved to be slapped at least 3 times during these interview clips. Joe is just a person you don’t like being around.
Joe is a momentum stopper. The content on this show has been great over the last weeks. Joe just single handedly mess that up. He is the most defensive, non defensive person you will ever meet. He is great as a interviewer, but horrible as an interviewee.
Are you serious? Math was asking him about stupid gossip that Joe ain’t never been in the mood to talk about. Math should know that stop with the click bait talk and have real conversations.
Nah he just sees the bs
He's passive defensive AF lol
Fans are funny, how many times you wanna hear the same story dawg. Math even laughed when Joe said you gotta get the clickbait stuff out first.
Totally agree....I hated this episode with a passion and I usually love every single one...the dude is like a energy leech...
So obvious!!
All the clips of Joe Budden on math Hoffa podcast just showed me how unmanly Joe Budden really is.
I'm from Brooklyn... so I'll say this. Math seemed like he had a long day and also didn't expect this version of Joe to pull up. Now, things couldve easily gone *sideways* BUT he thought about it, called an audible and redirected the questions to team. A+
What does you being from Brooklyn has to do with it lmao? Ya'll NY nighas wear Ya'll made out of armor or some shit
Yea I could tell that fasho
It still looks like a great sit down can’t wait for the drop💯
Well you have to know who you are interviewing,joe Budden went on taxstone and didn't want to answer questions
@@brudderstyles3479 this def reminded me of the Tax approach! Math had Joe up here before and things went smooth
@@DoRrecords same here
Respect to math for being professional. It's all a learning experience, Just give them a chair like everyone else because Joe's chair leaning back gave him a real lackadaisical look, and he played along with that. You guys have a great podcast, respect.
Joe's ego makes me cringe!!! Why did he even show up? I'd rather just listen to everyone else there. FOH Joe Butts!!
Fax, I was thinking the same thing. It's like he didn't want to be there. Smh
I want Eminem to go on this show I’d love to hear what he says and his stories
Joe Budden..what day were you born? “I don’t know what you’re referring to by that question. That’s for you to decide”-Joe Budden
LMAO.
lmao best example yet!
Exactly I really dont know what hes on here for. Hate hearing him answer questions. If he is special needs I give him a pass.
Thank u BIGGA!! When the OG speaks = 💎
Nobody vouched for game em said he ain't doing it without 50 so em brought 50
.. dude wit the dreads made a great point about Game & EM
Math pulled a Joe Budden on Joe Budden! 🤣😭😂👍🏾👏🏾
‘I don’t need a reason to diss a rapper’ is the most disingenuous statement this guy could’ve said.
He made 3 full songs totalling 1735 bars for Drake and no one cared cos the alley-oop wasn’t strong enough
He fully understands the importance of having a back and forth narrative so yeah Em actually gave him an alley-oop. Smh
Joe was giving Drake an alley? I’m lost
@@joshwelch5837 If there was a strong enough storyline fans would’ve digested a joe and drake back and forth but the alley-oop from drake wasn’t strong enough so it just looked desperate!
@@kareemrhouila4023 ohh
He said opportunity not reason. That's part of the problem cause wording changes context
Joe washed Drake.. go listen to “making a murderer”
I love the show but Joe pissing me off trying to play math on his own. Trying make math look stupid or silly for the questions he asking. But the whole hood are asking these same questions 🤔 Joe might be hating on math because math show is popping right now and Joe's is not. Low key hater 😒
He wasn't trying to make Math look stupid. Math was making himself look stupid asking questions about beef from 10 and 15 years ago. To be a great interviewer you need to understand who you interviewing. And just because you love this show and not Joe's show, don't be foolish. The Joe Budden Podcast is still 🔥
@@nsmith3128 nigga brought up the game beef 😂🤦🏾♂️
Math tryna grow his platform by any means necessary smh
Facts. Joe is trying to salt Math's come up. If I was Math I wouldn't even have Joe what did he even offer? He's corny af. Math don't need him
Joe is definitely poppin haha
Joe just don’t be in the mood for messy shit that he’s answered 20x already
Joe was scared of Eminem lyrically! Its that simple!
Lyrically there is nothing to be scared of...
@@bigprimo79 NOW YOU KNOW THATS A GODDAMN LIE! If he wasn’t white you would be saying that. And I’m black af nigga
Joe was scared stop kissing ass
@@bigprimo79 you're crazy lol
@@bigprimo79 stop it 😂😂😂 don’t be a clown like Joe now 😂
Didn’t he write a love letter to eminem or something?
No. You’re referencing slaughtermouse. Far from a love letter.
@@jaywilliams4750 It wasn't "far" at all, he was paying homage as a fan of Em
Yes Slaughtermouse!! 🔥
It was supposed to be a diss track but he changed it up i think thats how that went
@@jaywilliams4750 you dont know what you're talking about. It wasnt all rainbows but...
Bruh said "Phuck records you inspire me as a man"
Sounds like a love letter to me. 😭😂
Does Joe know the point of being invited on a podcast? People tune in (I would think) to a personality being on a podcast to be asked questions that the hosts and fans of the hosts have. He could dismiss any topics he wants on his own platform but why not just go with it on someone else’s 🤷🏽♂️
The game is defo salty about not performing at the super bowl
Joe spent a whole episode screaming in the Mike about em just mentioning him once hahaha now all of a sudden it didn't mean anything. I wish people people would call these people out on their bull****
Joe trynna tell people to chill is a wild
Wow it never ceases to amaze me how many dudes will sit in the room and not fat check each other but they all somehow have expert opinions... I'm still in the beginning and I just listened to three people till three revised versions of how all three of those subjects went down
There’s an old Scottish adage that goes ‘What a tangled web you weave when you practice to deceive’ - That’s Joe.
It sounds provocative but What does it mean?
Salute to Math, i woulda cut this interview short with Joes energy... Seems like Joe hating cos this pod is popular. Joe dont remember the Eminem diss? Joe forgot about his angry rant to respond? Joe mocking Math for talking about other men, when thats all Joe been doin? Dont bring that dude back....
Bruh the Eminem beef was literally YEARS AGO!!! Why is math bringing up a beef from years ago for no reason? All math clips so far have been nothing but clickbait questions. I feel joe, like why the hell are you asking me bout a rap beef I had in 04 with game? Like wtf? That’s not weird to you? Lol
@@blackjesus4525 if you look at all Math's interviews, he asks all his guests questions from when they first started to get a broader perspective. This wasn't something specific to Joe.
couldn't of said it better myself cause he slam cried like a baby for days after the em dies.
@@illduce7288 negro what? What does that have to do with him asking clickbait questions bout beef? I know he ask questions bout their past, but all of them if any of them are not click bait questions. I’m watching the one he did with treach now and he’s asking him shit bout back in the day, but it ain’t no gossip shit
@@blackjesus4525 sounds like you need to watch a little more. Did you not see the Ransom and Vlad interviews for example?
Math’s next question: “ Joe, you think durk should slide for von??”
"& should it be videotaped"😂🤦🏿♂️
Y’all reaching but it’s cool 😎
@@joh6544 It jokes.U can laugh once in awhile
Major Respect to Math Hoffa for these podcast shows he got the best conversations in Hip Hop right now👊🏾👌🏾💯
Didn't diss Em but talked of coming outta retirement several other times to battle Cyhi, Lupe, Mickey Factz etc 🧐 never known Joe to b selective he dissed a lotta dudes but he did look scared n this situation .. n skillwise I would much rather see Joe vs shady than Drake ijs lol
Joe was already retired bro.
Probably because he still had respect for Em and that was Tricky because him and Royce are close and Royce and Em are close
@@MoeMunnie023 he was retired when he said he would come back to diss Lupe and Mickey too. That was last year 🥱 lol
@@Stonecoldalston highly possible.. Joe is a strange guy to understand lol
@@MoeMunnie023 oh that’s the excuse?? 🤣😂
I don't understand why he even has a Podcast, there is absolutely NOTHING interesting about him, and this interview and his behavior just highlighted all of that... Math, mad respect for you for being BIGGER...
Joe tried that attitude with Tax & got balled out the office 😝
Exactly
Maybe When Joe is asked a question that might make him look weak, his strategy is to deflect by acting like the question is stupid or even belittle who is asking it.
Em didn’t take the first shot, Joe did, time after time being disrespectful in interviews. Did Joe wait till he was retired to take those shots at Em? I think he did. Has Joe eased off the Em disses since Em’s most recent disses toward Joe? I don’t know.
Respect to Math for putting up with the difficult and condescending Joe.
100% Dude is a textbook Narcissist. I don't even understand how a person wouldnt see it.
My point exactly nigga keep talking that when I was outside shit, When u was outside you never dissed Em, u never said shit all he did was try to get out that slaughterhouse deal ! Then he sit down with his friends and act like em was scared when he was rapping Foh ! And if he did shit was subliminal and nobody heard the song or knew wtf he talking about 🤷🏾♂️😂
Shout out math big ups to your channel
Yo Mr. Mendez perfect depiction of him, so true dude 🤙🏾💯
I don’t understand why folks haven’t seen podcast Joe at work. He will NEVER bring his A-Game outside his own endeavours. People like that, you don’t invite as a guest… EVER.
The podcast game is VERY different to the HIP HOP game. In rap, if you are a feature on someone’s track - the intention is to always be the BEST MC on the track. Why? Because it creates value/notoriety as an MC within the world of Hip Hop. Joe knows this. Joe is also the prime example of the podcaster who under performs on someone’s platform. The reason: the content isn’t his! He’s value/notoriety as a podcaster is only essential on his platform.
Math is pure at heart with this show! I appreciate that!
Watch out for all the “joes” - Rogan and buddens.
They’ll always under perform on away games…
Great point!!! That sums this episode up perfectly. That’s exactly the energy this interview so far.
Phucking absolute fire azz point.
You know Joe actually said something along those lines during the SH drama recently. Something about if I'm gonna talk about it might as well do it on my own platform, for the reasons you said. So yeah.
This dude owes me 11 minutes of my life back!
Thanks bro, I knew I shouldnt be here
Joe trying to belittle the rap beef question like he ain’t being interviewed by a BATTLE RAPPER… Lol
Valid question, Math is plugged in.
Joe was to busy robbing and backstabbing some more of his friends to be dissing any rappers.
Joe is a “Moment” person. How ever he feels in that moment, thats how he gonna play it. People like that have you sitting there like “i swear he said this last week, now he wanna switch it up??”🤷🏽♂️
😂Math finally has to work lol fuckin wit Joe Budden
Salute to Math Hoffa and all the guest host As a healthy viewer and dedicated subscriber Its time for Math to make some type of exclusive club so that members can get early access to the Interviews
You mean like the Patreon in the description or something different?
In a sense, Joe came off hella condescending when it came to the line of questioning from Math. But it also shows how these content creatives regurgitate the same talk points all the time. This was hella awkward. But it’s a teaching moment to content creatives. Folks really need to learn how to build conversations outside of current events and pop culture.
I agree. He's always spinning and rambling, which in effect never answers the question. His whole episode is going to
be like these clips. Even when he was talking about Rory and Mal he never made any sense
Agreed. There are so many more talking points and things as a culture that can be discussed. However.......its reasons they don't bring that talk to their platform. Bigga attempts to do so and at times and it works. When they had SMART on here it was a real different build and I so appreciated it. Math is a great mind and orator, his repertory is much greater. This talk with the narcissist that is Joe B......does nothing to move the conversation or culture forward. 😒
@@gstacks2110 facts. Math has been doing this a while now and still can’t really carry a conversation correctly. The show has so many dry spots at times simply because he doesn’t know how to pivot when he can’t get the gossip he was reaching for…or to simply get his point across. They ramble a lot on here now 😂
@@TTSantiago821 I totally agree. I actually enjoyed the episode with Smart a lot. But nowadays, MEO literally feels like the same redundancy you sometimes get from actual barbershop talk. Its only so much to talk about when it’s discussed everywhere everyday. There is tons to talk about with Joe. He really needs to dig a little deeper with the conversations.
Exactly. I just made the same comment.
The funny part, Jay Z tried to keep 50 off the halftime show and Eminem said he's not performing if 50 isn't there. This was confirmed. So why do y'all think he doesn't have sway when he's IN CHARGE of the Superbowl?
Facts. Joe's just saying Jay shouldn't be publicly held responsible for his choices by black men.
He thinks they should falsely throw a random white guy from the NFL under the bus to cap for Jay.
I love how Joe acts like he ever had it like that. He was never the king to be dethroned.
Came here for the comments and this did not disappoint
Joe tryin to disrespect math 😂
Math gon hit him.
Another Easter Star 🌟.
I wanna see this same energy when Game asks to be a guest on the show... it's 100% gon happen.
🤣
WHEN EM GET SERIOUS ITS (GAME OVER) !!!!
@@jeffdye7176 👎🏾 👎🏾
@@jeffdye7176 Please get serious all he's doing is letting his Stan's rally cmon Thanos snap your fingers because if he doesn't he will never be respected by today's consumers
We need to get math to 1 million subs.
Ok here’s my take. Joe was expecting a normal barbershop chop up like they usually do and didn’t think it would be solely Math grilling him. Joe feels like Math is looking for a click baity title and he’s not going for it. Math is high energy and Joe is being reserved and stand offish, not good for tv lol.
Bro this is Joe 2nd time on Math show . So he knows how math interview people! He does the same thing Joe does or did ! Joe knew what he was getting into ! Math was professional with him.
@@ELITEPSYCHE100 While I agree with you I also have to say Joe was helping him sharpen his interviewer game by doing this, Joe is just weird like that he’ll disrupt the whole energy of the show to prove a point nobody cares about lol.
That's exactly what it is.
@@TheReelRapNerd I think so fasho
I think its simply what you said.. joe expected a regular convo.. its all sorts of things they could of been talking about joes its like why are we even speaking of this.. i think it threw him off
Salute to Math for maintaining his cool, even the guy sitting next to Joe is confused 🤣
2000s..early 2010s Joe Budden one of my favorite rappers. But the way he moves/talks ruined him for me. We could never be friends lol. Mood Muzik 2 fire tho
Agreed
Man same
For real.
Co-sign for sure. Joe has skills. But after seeing how he moves as a person, I have 0% respect for him.
Can’t doubt the skills but I can’t get past the man himself
Math thanks for asking good questions
Joe's wrong again. Snoop said on Drink Champs Jay Z pretty much runnin the halftime show
And Nore said that Jay told him that it was basically Dre running it as far as who was on it and what songs were gonna be performed
Now it comes to me lol I remba you beating up homie on stage when I was younger , blessed to see ya growth real g shit I'm 36 now and I see you homie keep doing ya thing , power to the people
Joe is one of the biggest con artists in hip Hop industry you want to know why he didn't respond because he didn't want that smoke, he sat there on his podcast ranting about him and when Em responded which he responded a couple times especially on the Bang track with Conway, at the end of it Joe pleaded saying that Em should stop dissing him that he had no problems with Em. moral of the story Joe is a clown 🤡🤡🤡
Is that Mecca from the old Hip hop debates with JasFly RIP? You just got a new subscriber
I think y’all forgot besides the fact he’s not on that tier with the rest of those entertainers….he’s been in a pretty long one sided beef with Jay z for years!!! So if Jay is in charge of the talent clearance why would he clear a Nigga who’s been nothing but disrespectful towards him T he entire time he’s been on…
Also like Joe said jayz prolly doesn’t make the final decision for who performs at the NFL there’s other people in the background who make those decisions
I think it was probably more of a dre decision. Nore said he asked jay was it his decision not to have game and jay was like "I cant tell dre nothing". So it like even though im overseeing this dre still that dude I can't tell him who to have.
@@germainerashad1997 I saw that today as a matter of fact I agree completely… keep in mind too game has talked slick about Dre before so I’m sure he didn’t need no extra stress from that nigga especially like snoop said having had an aneurysm and a divorce game is too much sometimes so I could see why Dre wouldn’t want him up there and he only had 12 minutes
Joe: says he’s “not used to talking about so many men”
Also joe: literally has a podcast discussion rappers for last 6 years or whatever.
Lol this dude is legit crazy
This was hard to watch and you could've told Joe to leave because he did not really put much into the convo. Joe is comfortable when it's all about him, he wants to be the only alpha in the room. This is why I stopped watching his podcast a long time ago. I like the energy of this room because even though it's Math he still involves everybody and it's really like a barbershop talk.
From what I understood RocNation curated the Super Bowl Halftime show. So that would mean it was Jay helping lead the decisions on who performed and who didn’t. If that’s the case then it’s automatic that Jay would choose the most recognizable names to perform.
I read an article saying In 2019, the NFL launched a partnership with Jay-Z and his company Roc Nation that put them in charge of the league's entertainment options, including the highly-viewed Super Bowl halftime show.
Joe can miss me with all this sanctimonious condescending, I don't know what you mean, I'm above XYZ, when you are a podcaster yourself and know the vibe of hosting. You ask the hard question. Trying to make Hoffa look silly or shallow for asking certain questions. Like he's pursuing click bait. Like he's not a podcast host who asks these sort of questions of his guests, if he could ever have guest. There is a reason, he doesn't have many guests on his show. He's too self-absorbed. Joe is trying hard to distance himself from his image of having beef with people. And to talk about it, forces him to be reminded that HE is a large part of the reason he falls out with people.
That's why he's trying to act like the past is so irrelevant to who he is and how he moves now. He just wants it all to go away so he can press reset and pretend he's a new ZEN guy. In other words, he is a moody man who is hard to enjoy and get along with because deep down he know he's screwed up bad and burned bridges with important people. He's giving bitter, I don't like myself, and I need lots of therapy vibes because he is a slave to his ego that won't let him admit how he's screwed up with certain people That's he key to his freedom.
He's giving female energy with all this complaining about the nature of the RELEVANT questions about the past he wants people to forget. He knows his reputation is sullied and his podcast is not doing that great--anymore since we've seen him be so emotionally immature. So he has to tread lightly about the big names he's beefed with as he's heard the audience feedback on his negativity. Now I'm wondering if Joe low-key jealous of Hoffa's TH-cam come up. Is he mad Hoffa got MANY genuine male co-hosts? Got A-B list celebs revolving through his show? His energy toward Hoffa is mad moody, like a female.
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This is how I felt!
💯, Budden is hating ! And acting like he is above Hoffa podcast ! BUT HE IS NOT ! I don’t even watch Budden , it’s too much about him the whole show
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@@ELITEPSYCHE100 Exactly. I watch Hoffa everyday. I love to see these men conversate. I love the diversity. Sean Bigga shares my worldview and why I stay tuned in. I like that they welcome a Christian perspective. Anyhoo. Joe is too self absorbed. And, I think he's low-key jealous Hoffa. He can see the chemistry and maturity of the co-hosts on this show. I stopped watching him too cause he exhausts me with this ZEN pseudo-intellectual analysis of hip hop and the very people he's trying to avoid talking to Hoffa about. He's like I'm not giving you no viral sound bites for your show. Why even come on? It was like he was playing chess to protect his reputation and to NOT give Hoffa any vulnerability or honesty--aka viral moments. He's not going to last long. He's going to either self-destruct or turn totally brand new into a Hollywood square in order to maintain the income status he as risen to.
Hey Joe whats todays date? “Well what exactly is a date? And why do you think a date has anything to do with where im at mentally right now?” Crosses legs* Joe stfu 😂😂
When did Em take the first shot? He clowned Em while still being on Complex then Em finally responds & it's the "first shot"?
First shot on wax
I haven’t watched the vid yet, but based on the title Ima guess it’s bcuz he knew he woulda got ate tf up🤣😂🤣
Joe will spend a whole pod talking about Drake, he's wild
Love math hoffas smirk at the camera lol
Jay let Dre pick who he wanted
Growth by Math™️ we see it 💯
Because Joe was scared to fire back at Eminem. We all know this. Lol
Scared of what..it would only have helped him lmao go look up machine gun kellys most viewed song lol
@@PromosMakeCents Most of Budden's clout (especially back then) comes from being an industry veteran and lyricist chops - if he picked up the gauntlet and got washed after claiming he's been better for 10 years it would've had a negative impact on his podcast. Not responding on wax was the smart move for him.
Hes retired...funny Eminem and a bunch of others didn't throw shots when he was active. But Joe not scared of eminem, he went at jayz
@@504gucci4 funny because Joe wasn’t throwing shots when he was active 😂🤣. He supposedly waited until he was retired. That’s to funny. It was a scared way excuse to bail out.
@@noydb8310 he just said he went at Jay and in the video clip they ask about and Game. Matter of fact 50 was a part of that too. Joe was throwing shots when he was active lol. You just aren't old enough or didn't pay attention.
Joe responded with the Pod 🤣
Jay Z is over HALF-TIME ENTERTAINMENT. Sometimes Joe covertly harasses the peace on purpose. He loves to play devil's advocate, which turned him into a PROFESSIONAL GOALPOST MOVER! Sadly, I love listening to him. (lol)
Just cause he is don’t mean he can book anybody it’s still the NFL you think they gone let yo gotti up there hell no
Haha you described joe perfectly!
Or he's scared of Jay Z
@@Raj_Vinny They hired Jay Z because they know he knows better than to put Yo Gotti up there. lol
Good question math
I can tell right now he gonna be firing his mouth off on his pod! Call it now he will fire shots at you sir Mr Hoffa! Calling it right now
Joe look like he just came from painting lol 🤣💯
Joe was scared of Em. Bottom line
Oh the "pump pump pump it up guy"
It would've been a fun battle...both can get really petty with disses.
Skillfully
As someone bipolar, he is extremely bipolar.
He ranted for almost 2 hours after he heard it on his podcast, but now.....he chill.
Heavy medicine or he learned a very hard lesson behind the scenes
Sounds like a lot of excuses real ones can see through that Joe fears EM
Love ur guys shit on point and real
Joe don't want Jay-Z problems that's what it is. He only commented on defense of Jay that's it
Game didn't even come up in the preproduction conversation. That's it..
Idk why Joe said "why you wanna talk about so many grown men" as if he don't do that every week. Joe made the vibe awkward imo
The Game might be known for “naming names,” but Chino XL already innovated this style of rapping over a decade before him. Please get XL on-he’s sharp, plus he could explain the explosion of Hip-Hop in Jersey during the late eighties into the nineties!