Joe Budden, Royce Da 59 & Joell Ortiz HEATED ARGUMENT About Slaughterhouse BREAKUP (GOES WRONG)
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RIP slaughterhouse
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Narcissist Joe
Thank you for posting this video
I fk wit mr 59
And mr budden 💯✌🧨👟👓🎲😁
I didn’t know Royce dicked suck Joe so much 😒
Joe and Royce are wildin’. Joe is retired. Royce wouldn’t do it without Joe. That’s the end of the game.
You have to understand Joe was only retired as long as the group was signed to shady. They've only been off shady for a year. As mentioned in the live, Joe was potentially willing to do something if the contract was right, but they never got the details of the contract. Also as Royce stated, they don't need a deal to make music, Heaven studio was always open to them.
@@MrRisorgimento they've been out of shady for more than a year so they saw them string them along so they decided to close that shit and move on
Royce is a fucking weird dude. Crook and Joell would smoke both these clowns
@@joerodriguez6587 Why cant they call it slaughterhouse? They wanna make music under that name for fans its as much theres as joes and royce.
@@MrRisorgimento they were off shady since some point last year, crook went on twitter last year trying to sort something out, crook couldn’t get a phone call back.
Joe saying he didn't want part of a mess is hilarious when his whole career can be defined by literally being messy
Most underrated comment so far. Salute to you.
And he's the nasty king. He got a bag and ripped off his homies. 😐😐😐
Exactly, he built a whole talking shit career out of Wu Tang punching him in the face!!
Facts. And telling Joel too suck his 🍆 is the WORST and messy shit ever.
Joe MUST BE doing something right because his “messy” career got him this far. He has one of the top podcast out. And Joe let Rory and Mal out of their contract so they can do their podcast. But he’s messy 😂😂😂
Dealing with Royce and Joe got to be the most annoying shit ever
🤣🤣they turned bougie af
Diva tendencies
They play word games when challenged. Real annoying.
Yup and Joel ain’t soft at all I know he want to be like stop ick riding and get back to business 🧑💼
Royce is a classic dumb guy trying to sound smart and Joe is one of the most insufferably people in the industry.
There was real hurt on Joell’s face when Joe said: “I’m bigger than everything y’all are doing.”
That one exchange tells you everything you need to know. Unfortunate to watch.
Nah when Joe told joell his album can SMD really hurt Joell and Joe kept mentioning it like it bothered him too
@@iceebalboa3177 Can't sympathize for those not willing to put in the work. Without rap, these 3 are nothing but cornball 9-5ers with Jordans and a Challenger sleeping on their mother's couch.
@@user-qx5nk6qg2b 🤣🤣 r u salty or what lol
@@dakotafwebster8062 1) I don't know what salty means (sounds like female talk) 2) I said it's not Joe's responsibility to lift people up (be a man and stand on your own two) 3) You seem like an offended 9-5er (that must have been cut deep) 🤣🤡
@@iceebalboa3177 Can someone please translate this guy's English to English? Thanks.
This isn’t that hard to deconstruct. Joe and Royce never verbally declined a deal. However, what Joell is saying is that, Royce refusing inclusion if Joe isn’t involved and Joe stating numerous times that he’s retired, they’re by VIRTUE, deciding to no longer make music as a group.
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Him n Royce are playing stupid n trynna make Joel look stupid,Royce knows he wanted joe n joe knows he wasn’t wit it,
@@kevincoates5066 as he stated in the video business was bad, he specifically said when the business right we can rock
I mean niggas never received terms to said agreement to decline or accept. Joell and crooked chasin handshake deals smh. That’s how you end up right back in bad business. Lol
You're assuming that Joe would never unretire.
If Royce says he's not doing a deal unless Joe is involved and Joe has made it clear he's not rapping again then that's essentially turning it down
Well, if joe is retired and he’s made it clear that he’s retired, but then an offer is on the table with his old group and he doesn’t actually turn it down, but simply asks more about the deal they can’t actually say he turned it down because he wasn’t giving them an answer fast enough. That’s like if I always say I’m tired and you ask me to go to a party with you and I ask where it’s at and you never get back to me and go without me and then I see you on socials saying I’m lame for not coming and when I ask wtf happened you tell me I said I wasn’t going lol. Now I’m sitting like wtf
@@OrangeSkies_ facts!
Your a fucking idiot. You need lawyers and some form of verbal communication to turn down the deal.
Yes Royce and Joe could pull this album down and win. The label is making money off Joe and Royce’s brand. Both having 50% ownership in the brand.
Yes I would be suing.
@@OrangeSkies_ shouldn't take 10 years to say yes or no. if he was serious about the deal he would've hit up crooked, but he called joel to turn it down.
us of, like they didn't have a chance to hop on it.
@@wesleyblack8302 took 10years to get off of shady. They’ve been out that deal for a year. We don’t know how long this new deal has been on the table, but it’s most likely something within the last year so don’t jump to conclusions and make false accusations
Royce said he won’t do it without Joe, Joe said for 5 years now he’s retired. That’s a rejection…
That’s a position. Until an actual offer is made, it can’t be a rejection. No actual docs were drafted, nothing was read over, nothing was discussed with legal counsel in great detail. A whole business side was overlooked which is what messed them up from the jump. Plenty of hot commodity figures (musicians, athletes, etc) have been talked out of retirement when talks and offers go up.
@@theprimepodcast You gotta return phone calls to get offers tho. I just don’t believe Joe has much credibility these days. 2nd group project he’s blown up now
@@mathenamr Joe was never challenged when he said he questioned more aspects of said deal past the advance and never heard back. Him questioning the deal is the "returned call".
Joe: what are the DETAILS of the offer past the advance?
Joell: Joe said no
Joe: when did I say no?
Joell: you are retired
Joe: WHEN did I say no?
Joell: Royce said he won't do it without you.
Like the entire conversation is recorded and on display. Joell looking crazy. Anyone that says the "bottom line is" to cut off a conversation when THEY got the bag is on some bs.
Slaughterhouse could have really been a great thing. Yall should have worked through the shit
This doesnt make any sense because the mere fact that Joe was taking the time to ask further questions and gather more information on the deal PROVES he hadnt made a definitive Yes or No about that. One. Deal. So no he didnt turn it down. Plus his questions about the deal werent being answered. Its so interesting when people conveniently leave out key details just to push a narrative.
13:08 "Joe, you texted me a set of eyes bro......wtf is that?"
I was laughing so hard at Joells serious face when he said that.
I'm crying bro lmao
Joe Budden destroys everything he touches. Business, friendships & relationships.
Facts.... shit was foul what he did to Rory and Mal
He's bipolar as fuck
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And womens faces with his knuckles
Can’t wait til he makes Royce look even more stupid for supporting his actions and turning his back on the Crook and Joell.
Joe will apply for a job. Not show up. Not call. Not give a heads up. And the company takes someone else and Joe shows up 10 years later saying “I didn’t say no”
😂😂😂😂 that’s funny cause that’s definitely some Joe shit to do
Right girl say come fuck me, you never fuck her, by not fucking her you have said no. Did you verbally say it no, but your actions say it.
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Right
It's so sad because I was so sure the argument before was "we need to get off shady then we can really do what we want". Turns out shady was never the problem.
Shady wanted them to blow tf up he believed in them *so* much he signed them and there album didn't blow up
The hurt in Joell's eyes man
Forreal ive been there where ur talking to dudes and you realize that their completely different than you thought they were
So what. These are grown men. Get to the shit yourself tf you need me for.
Joe and Royce are really gaslighting. If Joe is saying I am not rapping, I am retired then yes you are saying no to the deal.
I'm really starting to think Joe believes he's Morpheus. Talking to grown men with a whisper voice... WTF. Why is he such a weirdo all the time?
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I had alot of respect for Royce and Joe until this.Big ups to Joell and Crook
😂😂 choosing sides in what u don’t understand is nasty
Bro idk why everyone don’t see Royce is so full of shit lol. I can’t even listen to him talk anymore. Like he just jumps in shit to talk to stay relevant. I liked him better when he drank 😂
@black guy Joel did answer that multiple times. Joe didn't want to do it, Royce didn't want to do it without Joe. Royce even told on himself because he admitted he said he wouldn't do with without Joe so he DID KNOW that Joe turned it down.
@black guy Oh, so that's why you're on Joe's side, you're dumb as bricks. Royce just admitted he would not do it because Joe was not doing it, so Joe said no to Royce - because Joe never even hit Crooked back because he's too good for that lmao - Royce told the guys Joe said no, Joell and Crooked asked Royce if he'd do it with them and he said no because Joe said no. The rest is semantics and little kid shit.
@black guy No you ignorant bum, I said Joe told no ONLY to Royce because he didn't call Crooked back, so Joel could never answer that question as obviously Joe never said it to them, only to Royce. You can't be this dumb in 2022
Joe always with the most condescending hostile energy then wanna flip around and play victim 2 seconds later. I actually fuck with Joe as a rapper and he's entertaining as an interviewer (for the same reasons), but goddamn does he ever seem unbearable as a human being
I can really see how a person can get frustrated talking to Joe and Royce 😂😂😂
Joe and Royce are so condescending.
Damn, Joell is the one with the balls here,
why would he jump on the live if he was not sincere?
Facts
Joell: "Y'all could've text me, you have my number"
Joe: "I did text you"
Joell: "Joe, you texted me a set of eyes"
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The lack of accountability is mind blowing. Joe and Royce are sitting here saying they never turned the deal down. But if Joe is saying I’m retired and not rapping anymore, and Royce says I’m not doing this deal without Joe, they are forfeiting their hand in that deal. That’s turning a deal down without saying “I don’t want to do this deal”
Facts
I still feel like Royce only attached himself to the "i won't do this without joe" cause he didnt want to be in a group anymore to begin with. He wanted his own thing & become his own boss but didn't want to say it. His silence spoke more than he thinks
Accountability? Man why the fuck do two grown men need to do something they don’t wanna? Get to the bag on your own.
Royce and Joe straight tripping. Joe said he is retired and Royce said he will not do an album without Joe. That's turning it down. Now they are trying to play semantics and say I never said no. Joe tried to manipulate Joell because his feelings were hurt. Joe knows he wasn't going to do the album and trying to turn it on Crook and Joell for giving the fans closure.
Facts only an idiot can't see that...
If it walks like a duck......🦆 #wellplayedsir
Facts old heads just want attention atp 😂
Before this happened Royce and joe were talking about how he didn’t wanna rap on shady and that’s the reason he retired but was thinking of doing one last album with everyone once the business was right but then crook and Joell did this…I know it’s easy to point joe as the bad guy in a lot of situations but crook and Joell fumbled this tbh
@@latinbeat1 They clearly had the audio on mute during that simple explanation lol Royce point was simple as hell when he mentioned the terms. It's not hard to see Joell is looking for attention
They’re arguing Semantics lol. Joe and Royce saying they did not “verbally” turn it down.. this is equivalent to job abandonment, 3 no call no shows mean YOU QUIT… you might not have VERBALLY said fuck this job. But your actions have caused the conclusion my friend 🤷🏾♂️
Any normal job would fire you for calling in to let them know what's up.
They're full of shit
Right. Joe used that same argument against rory and Mal on the pod
Why is it so hard to understand that joe just doesn't want to fuck wit the same major labels that Joell said himself fucked them over, and royce said he aint fucking wit it if joe aint. Yall some real dicksuckers bro, yall hear what yall want. Joe and Royce gave a No with room to change their mind if Joel could just get off shadys dick. If Joel was about the fans he wouldve just realesd the shit but he WANTED to fuck wit shady for the deal that joe been said he aint fuck wit,
@@j.e3336 Bro you the one with the listening problem.
@@iggyig420 I heard loud and clear, what did i say wrong then
Royce-"You want to talk to Joell?"
Joe B-" I don't care, sure. Thats my man."
Joell comes in. Joe gets a look on his face, doesn't say anything. Then immediately gets pissed.
This is what happens when ppl are just trying to be right rather then find middle ground
98% of people in arguments. The majority of humans are of average-level intellect.
Lol
Joell "What do you have an issue with Joe?
Joe: "All of it!"
Joell: "All of what?"
Joe Walks away
Lmao 😂😂😂😂😂
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Lmaoooo
people usually walk away when they can't face whatever that's in front of them
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@@hassanisongslyrics2761 ain't gonna front that's me asf when I'm wrong asf but don't want to admit it
Joe is the definition of someone that self sabotage EVERYTHING in there life
And that is tragic man....We only get one life, and when you self sabotage things in your life, you're hurting your life....
That's what makes the podcast interesting
@@justmyopinion4600 naw that's honestly what killed it the podcast was build on a brotherhood and Joe killed it and replaced his boys with paid YES men
that pod is trash
@@thegawdvegito4260 bingo
One of the saddest fall outs, im glad D12 never went public with their issues
Joell has always been my favorite I went in this with Joell to be the villain but it came out that Joell was actually speaking his truth
It's a shame Joe and Royce just turned into absolute clowns.
They always were clowns
Why is it so hard to understand that joe just doesn't want to fuck wit the same major labels that Joell said himself fucked them over, and royce said he aint fucking wit it if joe aint. Yall some real dicksuckers bro, yall hear what yall want. Joe and Royce gave a No with room to change their mind if Joel could just get off shadys dick. If Joel was about the fans he wouldve just realesd the shit but he WANTED to fuck wit shady for the deal that joe been said he aint fuck wit,
@@j.e3336 so Joe turned it down cause a record label? Okay cool, then he can fuck off and quit gatekeeping SH and let them release music without his input. Sounds like some petty BS Joe came up with to justify his bullshit stance
@Ant Nitti u sound hurt
I don't know about Royce,but joe will find a way to f*ck up a birthday party that he created,I don't trust this dude with a bubble gum
I’m confused as to why Joe is acting so hurt all of a sudden. He’s said damn near every week on his podcast he’s retired and will never rap again and now that Joell and Crook dropped a song he’s acting like he’s so hurt and he would have rapped again. You can’t make this guy happy
The “deal” was before he started podcasting
Nah he always said if the deal was right he'd come out of retirement for his boys and Joel and crook hiding the info on the deal so he wasn't going to sign without the info that's not turning it down That's waiting for details you're entitled to see.
@@SpeakHerMusic then he need to keep that same energy cause he did that exact same thing to Rory and Mal
Literally every week!! I wish someone would make a montage of the many times Joe has he's never rapping again.
He said on the pod he would rap again for them and only them but whatever deal got done had to make sense.
Joe: "I texted you"
Joes Text: " 👀"
The tension was Heavy soon as Joel answered lol
Joe ain’t boutta make me believe Joell is a liar. No way. Royce is Mr. political. Cute. From what I hear, Joe and Royce kinda sorta maybe declined the deal and now they don’t wanna stand on it because they didn’t TECHNICALLY decline. Case closed. Joell and Crook aren’t wrong.
Right. They feelin themself. They feel like Joell n Crook cant do it without them, yet wont DO SHIT to build it up. Basically telling them dont use OUR BRAND.... it's like if Deck, GZA, n UGod wanted to do a Wu album, and Rae n Ghost stall on it, cause they dont wanna do it, but wont let they partners rock. They dont get the Brand is the thing. Theres nothing stopping them from ALL putting out solos, and Duo albums together to collectively build the Slaughterjouse brand. They dont really fuck with each other, its obvious...
Exactly
Joel & Crooked alllll the way wrong. F what the public thinks! Typically the mob is ALWAYS wrong so siding with them should already have your antennas up.. you see Joel shut up when Joe said he could have 25% of this if he wanted to?? Bc Royce and Joe been dicks but they've been about the groups best interests. When you go and make an album like they recently did on their own, Joe and Royce didnt stop tht bag! Joel was upset bc Royce didn't all the way support it. Joel's in a hard space bc he ain't gutting to a bag, so, they resorted to this. I guarantee if Crooked and Joel held out for another year or 2, off Shady, for the right amount of time, they would of had the biggest most anticipated album and bag of the decade.. instead Joel went for crumbs all the while thinking that it was separate from the group but 99% of public don't want to hear or can't comprehend the true foundational facts of the whole situation. Once you know the foundation, then you can formulate a clearer understanding of the matter at hand and hence, make an opinion. But everyone saying Joes always been Messy and he's wrong in this situation aren't doing anything but letting those in the know, you're not in the know and you're ignorant bc you're speaking from a "factual" pedestal, drawing all the other fools in who feel good when they hear someone agreeing with their truth
@@lilhoots215 why do they gotta hold out they wanna spit let em spit what's this all about a name a logo????
@@jordanflores5687 money, reputation. Your using “our” reputation as a brand name to make money. You wanna rap, do it, just not as “us” when it’s just“ you two”.
Joe has to be the most frustrating individual in the world 🤣
He's a bird
I swear. How do people tolerate him for more than 5 min?
When does Taxstone get out? Tax is the only guy who called Joe out accurately on his shit
@@87Lohan Yeah he really made Joe look stupid lol
Hence why taxtone wanted to slap him during his interview.
Joell was spot on when he said “Joe how u making this about u”. That’s joe budden summed up right there..
Joe talking about they doing this at the expense of people they called friends. Mans whole brand is about backstabbing his people for a buck.
I am sad to see Royce handling it the way he is, I get where he is coming from, either we all in or we all out. But damn, holding up for a dude that wouldn't even blink to throw him under a bus if it meant he would gain something from it, and fucking up the two other dudes is heartbreaking
I can't stand joe....never could. I didnt even like the group because of joe.
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Joe Budden only been saying he retired for 5 years
Longer than that I think
Joe ain't rapping 😂😂😂😂 them niggas know that
@@TheHiphop98 if Joel put out a diss record to Joe idk Joe might step back in for a second
You think Joe Thinking about Rap 😂 He Killing the Podcast shit
@@kingkilla5770 Doubt it😂
Joe, I'm retired. Then again, I never declined. 😂😂 Joe a manipulator
The end.😂
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Do people not come out or retirement ? Are you suggesting if the business was right joe wouldn’t do a farewell album with his group mates ? Hov was retired and literally has done many albums since. It’s not sports, it’s rap “retired” is a hop and skip away from the studio
@@klowonjulu When is Joe business ever right
What's crazy is, you can tell how close they are and how much love/respect they have for each other... pride will always be the #1 problem in a group of 🤦🏿♂️
Maybe most people here never been on a team b4.. but this is where greatness comes from! Every group ever has fallen out.. Eagles, Pink Floyd, all the way to the temptations.. its like sports, if we're not arguing on the sideline, I dont even care what the score is, I'm questioning my squad and If I wanna be here..
I don't want no yes men ever around me just along for the ride..
Mad respect for Joell Ortiz had the balls to get on there and confront them, kept it real
Good on Joell for standing his ground. Easy to be bullied by people who never believe they are in the wrong. Joell and Crooked all the way!
That’s exactly what they tried to do!!!
Facts you got joe who's track record speaks for itself and Royce the newly found politician
Joelle admitted Joe was telling the truth the business was fucked up and that's why he left. Case closed.
Joell tells Royce he's always honest but then he says "but this you're lying" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol they're only bullies when they're the winners. Everybody on Joell's side because they relate to the victims lmao shit is wild.
Joe turned down the deal by omission. He on record claiming to be “retired” for years 🤣🤣🤣
You know how many professional athletes have done the same thing until the right deal came around that fit their bill?
It's almost if people don't come out of retirement for the right deal🤦🏾♂️
@@timjones7571 so….everyone else has to sit with their thumb up their ass until king Joe comes down from the mountain? Cmon bro 🤣🤣
I don't fuck with Joe after this... and I'm disappointed in Royce.
you can clearly tell Royce has not only been to therapy but got the most out of it. Peace to all 3 of these gentlemen and I pray they find common ground.
The politics that Joe and Royce are showing of being in grey areas never commuting so the can’t be held accountable is masterful
That's a joe classic. He talks about it on every podcast
Masterful manipulation, egregious almost.
Boom 💥
spinmasters!
Masterful or being pussies? I mean they rap about being stand up guys but then they play coy. Royce turned down a deal... Joe barely said anything in this live then when Joell hung up started talking. I like Joe and Royce more than the other two but these two are fucking clowns. Joe literally did a song calling out Eminem and now when people make the same song about them he acts upset
why they arguing about this? the album ain't even a slaughter house project. it's about the rise and fall story from Joell and Crooks perspective
"Joe you texted me a set of eyes wtf is that" 😂😂😂😂 Joe being petty if you guys don't want to be part of the group let the team run with it. Why you arguing with Joe he is retired and to tell Joell to suck man it wasn't that serious yall were friends
It’s hard to be in a music group. Prime example how miscommunication and agendas can bring it all down.
Crook and Joell seem to care more about the art/fans
I give Ortiz a lotta credit for putting up with Joe’s disrespect for as long as he did, but once you get to inviting another man to your privates, all civility is over.
He said THE ALBUM can smd, not Joell. Listen more carefully
@@mrspeaker89 I did listen and I didn’t hear his “interpretation” like you, because it was after the fact, and when df has SMD ever been a response under that set of circumstances with “friends”? He invited that man to his private parts period.
@@ericjones499 no he didn't
I'm going to support Joell, he was always solid from since he was sitting on the back of the project bench, in New York. Don't do that to him.. Joe you are a goofy..
Joell energy is different than those dudes. Appreciate him.
Best. Battle. Ever. Coming up.
Facts. I wanna see Joel wash joe bitch ass in a fight.
That was funny as he'll when Joe got up and walked away from the camera and headed for the door like he expecting uber eats 🤭🤣🤣
Lmfao
That “ALL OF IT!” got me outta there lmaooooo
Joe been a diva and Royce swear he NEVER wrong...
Royce said no deal without Joe, Joe said he wanted control in order to do a deal... Bottom line, they both stepped outside the deal that was offered
Royce
Lost so his cool points when Lupe battled him
@@MelMelMelDrMEL yeah that was horrible
All of what you said still doesn’t definitively decline such deal 🤷🏿♂️
@@ICBTO09 Sayin that you'd only take a deal is the terms we're renegotiated is the same thing as declining the initial offer
Why is it so hard to understand that joe just doesn't want to fuck wit the same major labels that Joell said himself fucked them over, and royce said he aint fucking wit it if joe aint. Yall some real dicksuckers bro, yall hear what yall want. Joe and Royce gave a No with room to change their mind if Joel could just get off shadys dick. If Joel was about the fans he wouldve just realesd the shit but he WANTED to fuck wit shady for the deal that joe been said he aint fuck wit,
"I don't want this for you." Words said by a person trying to manipulate you.
Yep
Facts
I BELIEVE JOELL …..something that joe and Royce is lying about I’m tryna figure out
Manipulate him into what though? It seems like he's saying that the deal on the table was not good. We all don't know exact numbers. Peep 18:30 where they talk about past bad business with SH. idk man seems more to me like that comment is telling him the deal is not very good not manipulate
@@wfsweinthere234 watch Crooked interview where he clarifies everything.
All of y'all are dope MCs, I just want to know who's going to start the No Vaseline?
Technically Royce did say no. He didn’t out right say no but if you don’t agree to doing some thing because your friend is not doing it, that’s you saying no. And Jo is pretty much controlling Reus. Don’t think he doesn’t know
This is what happens when friends are too busy trying to “outsmart” each other instead of just clearing the air and getting to the root of the problem
Facts, everybody wants to be right instead of fixing the issue.
And ain’t none of them all that bright either lol.
WELL SPOKEN SIR!!! ✊👏🤝 THAT'Z-A-FACTZ 😊👌👍
Who trying to outsmart who? Joe was always my horse in the race and he RETIRED. How can you be in a rap group if you're retired?
@@LeeoJohnsonTV but in the video, they stated it was about how poor the business was handled in the past. Maybe I'm wrong here, but it sounded like royce and joe was not completely against working with the group again, they just dont wanna chase bs handshake deals and sign with the same mf's that fucked them over before
Lets be honest, Joe said on multiple occasions that he’s retired and not interested in rapping anymore, so if royce says he’s not doing the deal unless the CLEARLY retired guy wants to do the deal then thats him saying no without actually saying it (basically letting them down easy). Joe was gonna string them along under the guise of wanting to “do good business” knowing damn well he wasn’t interested in the first place and knowing he was the deciding factor in the decision, His ego was just hurt that he didnt get the chance to do it.
EXACTLY!!!
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You might be right.if the issue is over the name, which is how I interpreted it, then eh if half the group don’t wanna do it, then why can’t they pull an Em and Royce and just form a new “group/duo”. Hell it ain’t hard, but they want the slaughterhouse name and without half the members, it’s foul.
Facts.
@@ChocoDee_Hz - Joe Budden is a toxic little bitch, everything he touches turns to shit. Royce the kind of guy to look you in the face and call your mother a hoe, then when you punch him in the face he’ll say “why did you think I was talking about YOUR mother?, did I specify it was YOUR mother?. If you ain’t shitting, get off the pot and let the other two rap.
This is heart breaking to watch as this was probably one of my favorite groups, 4 guys with Sooooooo much talents. Can we get more than just the Lox staying together?
This how u argue as men and don’t result in threats of violence.
Funny how Joe's initial statements back when about Eminem is what ultimately broke up the group. He made his personal opinion speak for the group. In typical Joe fashion he acts like the team captain only to burn the house down then point fingers afterwards and fake well wishes.
Whoa as A Joe fan this comment right here is Important! Made me actually think
Joe burns every relationship to the ground, blames it on trauma and acts like he’s not supposed to grow
Throughout this whole breakup Joel has been the most quiet and I always wondered what the relationship was with the group and Joel. He finally speaks out and moves on and this is the backlash he gets. It’s sad
The thing is: It feels like Joell has a lot of issues with Joe and even Royce, that were never addressed before. You see Royce's surprised reaction when Joell implies that he does not support his albums? All of them are pretty bad in expressing their feelings to each other
@@mynameismynameis3322 Joe's last couple minutes speaking was clear. Not doing the album under Shady. I want to see the entire stipulations of the new contract. Why would 2 members destroy something that you finally own. Joe's going to be viewed as the problem no matter what but I actually agree with him.
@@nsmith3128 have you seen what crook had to say about ? From what crook said “ rule number one in doing business is communication “ he said he reached out to Joe. Joe said he will contact him back within an hr and he’s never heard back from Joe again. There’s a lot of miscommunication going on here between the for and judging by joes shitty track record in other business ventures and falling out with ppl close to him it don’t look like Joe is going to be let off the hook
Everybody has a truth. When communication is broken, the truth was also broken into 4 sides. Or maybe 2 sides. At the end of the day these dudes was fire as a group.
I can agree to this...Joe and Royce didn't realize the message they gave Joel and Crooked...so Joel and Crooked took it as a "naaaa, we don't want it"...maybe Royce and Joe were trying to negotiate a higher price by holding out...or he meant he was retired til he got of Shady label...so i think it's a misunderstanding...
The comments on the live got me dead 💀🤣🤣
I'm a big Royce fan but this clearly shows both him and Joe playing the semantics game. Joell appeared authentic during this debate
I seen this comment before watching and was hoping you was wrong smh everybody know how beeeen retired
Facts..joe budden is a bitch everybody he does some type of business with he ends up having a problem with look what he did to Rory and mal..he had a problem at Defjam, shady,Eminem the list goes on and on
@@geeman3156 🤣🤣🤣🤣. You sound moist
@@mikejones4566 I agree he riding Joe a bit but you can’t deny that literally that’s the biggest knock against bro. He’s been saying he don’t wanna rap and will not come out of retirement. His arrogance gets the best and worst of him. It’s the reason why some of the point I agree with I wholeheartedly agree with but when I disagree with him I think he goes far with it.
@@geeman3156 and everyone knows Eminem is a stand up dude
I see all sides of the argument… Joell & Crook wanna rap & provide for they family, Joe don’t wanna rap again unless the business is right, Royce is loyal to Joe & slaughterhouse as a collective (4 mcs), so Joell/Crook lashed out cuz they feel Joe being selfish again & Royce is being disloyal to them by siding with a retired Joe. Everybody kinda got a leg to stand on… But as a Slaughterhouse fan, I hate this soooooo fucking much
Joe don’t care about the business being right he just wants to be destructive. This is the same guy who claimed the business wasn’t right with Spotify but yet started putting his podcast back on Spotify after trashing them. Joe been saying he retired for 5 years now, he just thinks the sun rises and sets with him
Lol, 10 years and still the business isn't right?? Let's be honest with ourselves, Joe isn't rapping again, good or bad business, he cares way more about his individual podcast brand, 10 years is a whole lot of time, 10 years, waiting for one person
Joe wanted to do it without shady, got off shady and he still said no.
Lol Joe is being selfish because he'd rather make millions on a couch talking than chump change like he did with Slaughterhouse? Y'all dudes have some interesting perspectives on life to say the least.
Perfect description
15:30 This is where Joe really comes out. The ego and disrespect. We can definitely tell how things were behind the scenes.
This shit sounds like BS. Royce and Joe tryna be pedantic because they not liking the dirty light being put on them
Lmao and Joell response was perfect 😂
yall still taking that out of context? he literally explained... hes bigger than that album they put out
but lets be real... yall backing nniggas that dont even wanna pay Joe and Royce the money from this album that is still their work
Royce has to be the most passive aggressive dude I have ever seen. He got the little smirk and everything. It’s so frustrating yet so funny at the same time.
For real. This fake woke persona 😒 🙄 😑
That “I’m bigger than everything y’all doing.” Was very telling.
It's petty as hell but it was true
@@tripbless2063 nah you don't say that to your mans
@@PWBTone2010 I'm not saying it's right to say but he wasn't lying lol alot of these niggas in the comments didn't even know joell and crooked already made album together before this one
@@tripbless2063 slaughterhouse fans knew. Thats a nasty ass comment by joe. I love the jbp but he being a bitch fr
he was hurt in his feelings lol. guess his crack is bigger lol
After Joe treated his former partners like they was nothing I just can’t support anything Joe does
The way he treated the Migos during that interview should show everybody he a hater low key
rory and mal are laughing at all of this
@@karlsylvain Rory actually said on their pod that he understands where Joe and Royce are coming from.
@@Chicagosurvivor Migos?
Joe and Royce capping
I honestly don’t know how things work at Shady Records business wise. But I will say this Slaughterhouse lyrically are great rappers, but they weren’t marketable in the mainstream. They didn’t write catchy choruses, they didn’t choose up to date production,and they look generic,meaning nothing stands out about them appearance wise. They never really gave their fans anything to truly relate to.
Let’s look at the most successful artist on Shady after Eminem. Which is 50 Cent.
50 Cent was on Shady Records but he was marketable,had an image, a story, a controversial beef, and the ability to choose marketable production and make hit records. Yes the Eminem affiliation gave suburban america a reason to embrace him,but 50 Cent was also smart enough to give them a reason to embrace him by making hit songs. 50 Cent had a buzz and chose to submit a lot of hits to the record label. He made the labels (Shady,Aftermath,Interscope)take him seriously and gave them something worth promoting. 50 went out and established his own sound,image and movement outside of Eminem and made the situation work for him. Wanksta” “In Da Club” “21 Questions” “P.I.M.P” “Many Men”. Were all relevant marketable hits for the times.
50 Cent never had an issue with how business was handled at Shady Records.
Whereas Slaughterhouse never gave Shady Records anything marketable to promote. “Hammer Dance” wasn’t a good first single and it definitely didn’t connect with the fans. “My Life” would’ve only worked had they chose a better first single. The album didn’t really have anything radio friendly on it. They can’t blame Shady Records for that, the label can’t make the songs for you. Eminem didn’t owe them a deal he chose to give them a deal,they just didn’t make the right songs. So they’re lucky it even happened in the first place,considering how many unsigned artist would love to sign to that label. But signing to a superstars label doesn’t automatically guarantee you any success,their fans aren’t gonna just support you just for signing. You have to give them a reason to support you. Lyricism isn’t always the answer. You have to make songs that people want to hear these Slaughterhouse guys just wanted to spit bars and that obviously didn’t work for them. So then Joe Budden wants off the label when his group didn’t make the right songs for the first one that didn’t sell well. Royce knowing his relationship with Eminem, chooses to align himself with Joe Budden after Joe said what he said about Eminem’s album on that podcast. Shady Records had no reason to put out another Slaughterhouse album after the first one flopped,simply because the group didn’t make marketable music. Joe then retires and Royce does the album with Premo,Joe says he refuses to put out music on Shady, Royce says he doesn’t do Slaughterhouse without Joe,so at that point there’s no Slaughterhouse. The few fans that they had at one point are probably not as interested as they once were in hearing a new project with all of them anyway,because it’s been so long since they’ve worked together. So in essence their fans lose in the long run.
Griselda is no longer on Shady Records either and they had a good image with the jewels and designer clothes,but they were all about bars,their music didn’t match their image and they weren’t marketable. These people aren’t meant to be superstars,they don’t have the music for it. They too are lucky Eminem gave them a deal because if you’re over 30 years of age as a rapper, regardless of how talented you are a label doesn’t have to take a chance with you. But if you find one that does you better make the most of it and don’t make excuses.
GREAT ANALYSIS......
Royce really sitting here like "this isn't going anywhere" thanks royce
Why is Joe even acting like he was gonna sign a contract after saying he wanted out? It’s Hard to trust Joe in situations like this…he doesn’t even understand when he’s lying.
Joe isn’t trust worthy at all
Joe's proved that he burns every bridge he touches and royce just whines and preaches. Sick of them both
Not to mention this is the 2nd time we've heard Joe threaten to sue men he calls his "brothers".
LMFAO
Hard to trust joe in anything period.
Summary: Joe's ego held the group back for more than 10 years. Royce keeps enabling that behaviour from Joe. Joell and Crook have had enough! Friendship dynamics y'all
exactly!
I wouldn't say Joe's ego having questions about how business is being conducted isn't ego refusing to work under what you consider less than favorable circumstances isn't ego it's a business decision in this case it's a business decision that upset his peers that's not ego that's ppl whose thoughts and views aren't aligned and the view from each perspective created a tension and a dispute that only got bigger as time elaspes
Good breakdown
@@meezey you really hate to see stuff like this kuz these brothers could have really used a conversation in the same room to air out all the things that they didn't see eye to eye on but by letting so much time go by before having that talk you leave the door open for emotions to grow opinions both inside and outside to get involved before you know the perspectives and the facts of events are so far apart it's hard to even see things any different
I agree 100%
This is heartbreaking. My soul aches lol
I wish they could call it a misunderstanding and agree to disagree, because in the end that is most likely the case.
Yup that's what I was thinking. Everyone remember it differently and view it differently. Everyone morals / values, right/ wrongs, are different . But also Joe is a complete narcissists so..............
This nigga Joe fake asf. How he go and say to joell I love u so much and I sincerely wish the best for you to saying your album can smd. Joe a royce are the definition of fuk bois. Royce got smoked by lupe and Joe Budden got smoked by Big pump killa
What Joell means with “word semantics” is lexical semantics and nit-picking, but what he’s actually arguing for regarding implications and poor communication falls under logical semantics. And yes, this is the most “white dude” comment ever, but it’s not every day you see multiple legendary wordsmiths struggle with words.🤣 Love, peace and prosperity to these men, and may Slaughterhouse rise again.
Joe is a narcissistic pervert, it’s been known. He ruins every relationship. I’m disappointed in Royce for even entertaining this circus. And Joell is a good hearted down to earth passionate dude, he should just keep focusing on his craft and don’t let these industry devils mess with his passion.
I’m with Crook And Ortiz on this 🔥🔥
That’s means u don’t fully understand the situation … Joe has been beefing with Eminem and didn’t want slaughterhouse with shady anymore … what don’t you understand? Royce is cool with Eminem and Joe and he understands where Joe is coming from
@@IXIRob_MarleyIXI yet joe can't express his side by himself at all. Doesn't do any rap shit for a fucking while, doesn't give any heads up on whether he gonna take the deal. Just turns everything into some shit about him personally. True he had beef with em and Royce, being his buddy for a long time, knows him better, but fuck man all you see joe do here, walk away from elaborating any statement he says, just shows he wanna talk loud and get some attention. Mad he didn't get his piece of the cake when he hasn't even reached his hand to it
@@garikek well why would Royce be on joes side about the situation and again Royce is kool with Eminem as well? He obviously agrees with Joe about the whole situation and didn’t want to do an album without him … Joe said if the business was fixed he would come back I love Eminem but I understand why Joe would want off shady after they started beefing
100%
@@IXIRob_MarleyIXI Joes a narcissist lol
This is sad. This could've been a great group. All talented MCs. Hope it oneday gets resolved.
dang i got off the live at the wrong time lol
Joe definitely made it clear he was done with slaughter house you can’t win an argument with Joe Budden
He's a piece of shit. Beating up women.
@@ted__ryan Geezis, stick to the point you self righteous weirdo
This should not have been on social media. This is heartbreaking.
Who cares
@@shkrsimpson44 well, at the least four people and their families.
Sadly Joe and Royce love putting their business out there. This could have all been settled a call but it seems like they don't return calls.
Joell even said it , royce the one that called
I feel it's classic fake beef to promote Joell album but I could be wrong.
watching this live was interesting
I’m cracking up at “Is this a case?” 😂
Chigs coming through clutch
you already know
@@ChigsSmooth Preciate you fam
Fuking clutch 🤣🤣
“I’m bigger than everything y’all doing” - Joe Budden to his friends
Nigga is so condescending is ridiculous. Then gaslight and tell them that he loves them when they on his ass for his wild ass remarks 🤣😂
It’s true though he is
He prolly got that recorded and just plays it
I think he only said this because joell was trying to make it seem like he was responding to them for attention I think that's why he said I'm bigger than yall basically I don't need this attention
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope they actually reached a resolution, because this isn't necessary. I feel like there's truth to all 3 sides, but no one wants to admit that they may have been wrong about some things.
joe budden constantly closing his eyes in a condescending manor, thinks he's so smart but can barely get a sentence out
So Joe is retired and has been retired.. Royce won't sign on to anything without Joe yet Joell is wrong for his take? Gaslighting at its finest
Joe’s doing very well rn, but his attitude and way of handling people…that shit is gonna come back to haunt him. You can’t just go your whole life doing people this way. Hope he figures it out and changes his ways, cause…..
Joe: To do it at the expense of people you spent time with, it just looks some type of way.
Rory and Mal: Have entered the conversation...
That part!
The real MVPs are the guys in the comment section on that live. They killin' me with all those jokes about Joell's face. Y'all funny af.
the Logo! 🤣
I’m with crook and Joel they jus wanna be rappin and thats what we all want!!! Ain’t it????
Why not be king crooked and Joel. You don't have to be slaughterhouse u can't be slaughterhouse without the other 2
@@ayeepexxtv5854 cause they want to put this behind and adresse the situation with slaughterhouse for once and for all
Seeing this feels like the “you should never meet your heroes” quote…..and without having to actually meet your heroes 😳
This is really disappointing on Royce's side. He can tell Joe is acting like a child, still backs him.
On his episode of behind the music 🤣
SMD being dropped ina conversation amongst “friends” is crossing the line eventho he technically never said it to Joel
It's the "yo mama" amongst grown men imo. It should never be uttered. Unless you expect that "next step" This was tough to see.
Nah just by Joe saying smd to another grown man sets the tone don't matter how he said it ..it should be on site from that point on
Wow. Can't believe a group that made that offshore record came to this. Heartbroken
“Go fuck with the album” was crazy.. still haven’t heard that shit either 😂