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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ค. 2024
- Here's a quick status update on the new $99 MiSTer FPGA board with a small performance showcase of some games I've been testing.
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We Brazilians are very excited for the arrival of this low-cost Mister FPGA. I can guarantee that you will sell a lot here in Brazil. 😊
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250 million people waiting for this. xD
Carioca!
Indeed
I've wanted a FPGA forever but they're hard to find and expensive. I'll be watching this project pretty closely. Amazing work!
Used to be 90 USD a few years ago ... You don't have an extra 90 USD as an adult? Maybe you should rethink your life decisions or find a new hobby.
@@DrNoBrazil forever is often exaggerated by most and maybe they didn't come around when it was $90. Next time be less of a jerk.
@@DrNoBrazil Just because you have the money, that doesnt mean you think its worth spending. I'm sure there were a lot of things you'd buy if they were cheap. And where that threshold lies is very individual. Bringing the price down is great for everyone
I came to this video with no clue what this is. @@DrNoBrazil
@@DrNoBrazil "A few years ago." Ok, so all it takes is a time machine to get that deal. Why didn't I think of that?
Terasic continues to charge the same covid price to maximize profits. A MiSTer FPGA clone at 2017 student prices would be a tremendous gift for the community. Thank you
Far be it from me to shill for a tech company, since it's pretty well known a lot of them have no excuse and are charging more because they can.
That said, I have some doubts that the price of the DE10nano (in specific) is entirely up to them. Their suppliers are probably dicking them over a bit too. Probably. Few to none of us know for sure. Could also be a bit of column A, a bit of column B.
But I completely agree that the low price is pretty compelling.
If people are willing to pay, why wouldn't they charge more? This isn't life saving medication, it's a totally unnecessary ultra niche product. You can perfectly emulate all these systems and more, no one _needs_ a mister, no one is being deprived of _anything_
hey TAKI, please make a version with a better FPGA. 110K Logic Elements was not enough to implement a proper ao486 core for example, they had to remove the floating point unit...It's not fast enough for various DOS games. 110K LE is barely enough to make an accurate Saturn, Sergiy had to gimp a bunch of parts of the implementation in his Saturn core. I've been waiting forever for the community to finally move past the 110K LE. Come on TAKI, you can be the one who leads us to the promised land and moves us out of the 110K LE era. It's been 8 years of 110K. Something's gotta give, we can't go like this forever. What if you could make "BASIC" version for $99 that's compatible with old cores, and a "SUPER" version for $199 that opens up the possibility for some new cores?
Maybe, move out of Intel Altera into AMD Xilinx, like XC7A200T for 200k LEs.
I’m sure Terasic just loves this. Another example of China copying Taiwan’s IP.
The Cyclone V SE SoC family tops out at 110k LEs, so there's no easy way to get more logic space. Transitioning to something like the Xilinx Zynq series is possible, but would require a huge amount of work on the Mister code base. To get any headroom to grow Mister really needs to be re-architected to lose the dependency on the integrated hard ARM core, but that's a vast job that nobody seems much interested in doing.
@@drramtop1576they don’t use a lot of IP cores for most designs. Xilinx would be much faster and increase the amount of systems able to be cloned to soft core.
Replay 2 for that
Looks great and makes the project more accessible again. Well Done
Already own a MiSTer but I'm glad that a DE-10 Nano alternative is in the works so others can also get one!
I am strongly wishing you guys success in this endeavor! This is one of the best news I've heard for retrogaming in quite some time!
Looks very promising so far. Thanks for getting a preview video up so quick!
Thank you for doing this. I've been following this project for a while as well, and like you, I've only seen it get more and more expensive. When these come out for retail, I am definitely going to pick them up. You just got a new subscriber.
I'm so excited to see this. I've been looking into the MisterFPGA project recently, and like many others the cost was holding me back. The possibility of getting this in a HANDHELD, at a reasonable price, with the performance benefits of FPGA, the dedication of this community, in a no-nonsense (no android or windows) portable? I'm sold. All it has to do is work and I'll buy one of every model you produce Taki. My Retroid Pockets and Anbernics will go in a drawer.
Portable FPGA seem fun 😂
Perhaps in Pi zero form factor with enough logic cells and low power consumption.
Man, I was always considering getting a MiSTer together to replace my Wii as my retro console, but the price was a bit much. And then, just days after i finally get a CRT TV after a few years of looking, I see this. Good thing I've waited so long! Super excited to see how this project goes, especially any consolized version of this.
A Wii is a MUCH better option. That should be obvious.
I literally bought a DE-10 Nano a week ago. That being said, im glad more people will be able to get into this project soon!
way to go! This is amazing, and pretty excited for the future with this board!
Omg. I've been wanting a Mister for a long time. I can't wait to order. Thanks Taki for making this happen.
This is amazing news and I'm stoked to watch the progress. It will be great if it works with existing accessories but I totally understand if it just kind of becomes its own thing for affordability and improvements. Keep up the great work! Also, HANDHELD?!?!? YES!
Holy smokes. This is amazing! Thank you. I'll 100% be picking up one of these up!
This is awesome. I took the plunge into the world of MiSTer a while back and it is pretty fantastic but if it can be made more accessible that is only a good thing. Really looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
Thank you for the update and the transparency to us, the potential buyers. I really love this, and will pick up a few in the future!
Very excited for this. I have been wanting to build misters for my friends and family but the de-10 is just too costly now. I currently own two full setups but I plan on buying several of these boards and ram modules. Beyond excited for fpga handheld market. Thanks Taki!!
Very interesting! Looking forward to a consolized version
It's great to see another option to the original DE-10 Nano in the works! Good stuff.
Super excited about this! Can’t wait to order this as I’ve not been able to get a MiSTer yet. Analogue Pocket with it dock has lessened the pain of not having one.
very interested in what youre going to make with this technology.
i think with your input and attention to the finer details with emulation and particularly handhelds, the future is looking very good for FPGA gaming
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Wow, amazing! I can't wait for the final product 😊
This is great! I've been an incredibly satisfied MiSTer owner for a few years now but have seen people repeatedly turn to worse options due to price creep and stock issues. With something like this more accessible to the masses, it'll be easier and cheaper to source replacements/backup units, accessory/add-on creators will see more business, FPGA competitors preying on the enthusiast market will get a reality slap, and audiences in general might start pushing for higher emulation and input latency standards from mainstream gaming entities.
On the plus side, it's shown me I can survive with a "lowly" RPi4 build, that does Dreamcast and below relatively competently; I've had lots of experience with MiSTER AND RPi4, and they're both very good, it's just really hard to get over the build cost today. This though... $115 out the door with an active fan and you're ready to roll? Too good to be true
that's amazing --- a $115 Mister FPGA is a lot more exciting than a $250 to $300+ kit
This is absolutely awesome. I've been wanting to grab one since they were first out but could never afford it but I will certainly be looking to grab one when they're available.
Great video as always. I've wanted to get into the world of the MISTer, but as was pointed out in the video, the price is a deterrent. I look forward to more updates on this low cost alternative. 👍👍
Very cool. Lookin forward to these future products. Must buy
Great work here, I’m so glad to here that the MiSTer project will now become way more affordable for others to get into the ecosystem! Thank you!
Awesome, great work! So looking forward to it.
Subscribed and watching closely! I love collecting retro systems and games, but this will be a nice all in one option when you just wanna jump quickly into something on a modern display!
Amazing project !! Well done!
@Taki please tell me where you can get that glorious yellow USB cable you are using in this video? Love the plug and the look of the cable overall
Cool, but why would I get this over a software emulator when this can't even render Goldeneye at full speed?
This is really amazing. Thank you so much for doing this. I hope that the ports can be further optimized. SDRAM integration would be a great thing for V2; even it the price was up from $99. But a $15 ram is a godsend!
This is a great start! I would get this and use my other two DE10s for other uses.
I'm so excited for the MiSTer value menu! :D (As are many of my friends who want MiSTer but couldn't justify the price)
That is really awesome, hope this project goes very well.
Reducing the entry-level barrier for FPGA gaming wow Taki this would be a game changer. I'm wishing blessings upon blessing for this project to succeed. Taki for President everyone 😁
Some kind of case would be awesome as well. Thanks for your work.
This is great news ! FPGA is currently very much an elite system considering the price of the mister or analogue products. Very surprised that you are one of the co founder of this, this sound good coming from someone with so much attention for details. Personnaly, I can't wait for the console version !!!
I am so glad you are doing this! Untill now I had no reason to buy an FPGA because of the high price cost, I already have most of the consoles I'd like to and a very nice CRT to go with them. This is gonna be my first FPGA!
Very impressive performance but we’re all waiting for that controller Taki! Looks like something Retroid would design for their RP2 line!
This is incredible news! I've been sitting on the sidelines watching the prices go up for a while, so this will definitely be something to keep my eyes out for!
Can you fix the SNAC problems (no ”in Menu navigation, no 2-Player on some cores, no DB15 support et.c)? Also, when do you expect this to be for sale?
I knew I should've pre-ordered one of those controllers. Looks great, going w/the industrial design.
Wow! So excited to hear you are a co owner of a company that will sell these (handhelds too) 🎉
Hello Taki. As someone that has 2 misters, and doesn't necessarly need a third one with the same kind configuration of addons, how long do you think before something more custom will be presented?
Holy crap, I was anticipating there were going to be major compromises to knock the price down that much lower but this seems like the full thing! I feel much less bad for waiting out on the Mister now!
Outstanding! I hope your production facility will be able to keep up with demand, which I am sure will be high.
This is going to sell out fast, it's amazing they got the price to to $100 dollers looks fantasic. a handheld with full mister capabilities would be a game changer.
That remains to be seen. Third party sellers, scalpers and scammers are going to make sure this is nowhere near 99 bucks. But... one can hope.
I mean, the real DE-10 was $75 when the MISTER project started and I honestly don't believe the price hikes have been entirely due to manufacturing costs.
@@vresi Don't worry,Gyna got this under control to keep the prices down.
@@vresi well a replacement for the DE10 Nano that stays at $100 has plenty of value to people with other interests. Gotta think, Terasic didn't design the de10 for video games. I designed PCBs for machine control that used a DE10 before Mister was even started.
I will buy two more lol
Is it possible to achieve 4K resolution with this board? or in future revisions?
Is it possible to build a board with an FPGA with more logic unit to support later model systems like the Dreamcast and still stay compatible with the MiSTer?
Where did you get that transparent, rectangular game controller at the beginning of this video? Who makes it?
It's the "Neo S" by CRKD
can you tell me what the model# sku on the chip for the 15.00 clone sd ram board?
What about the compatibility with the other standard addons that the DE10 supports that encompases the rest of the MiSTer ecosystem, like, the USB board or the VGA board?
Looks great! What is this wonderful yellow usb c cable?
What cable are you using with this controller?
This is amazing, i will finally be able to recommend Mister to my friends again
Just having Saga on the background, brings tears to my eyes.
Thank you so much for taking the initiative! I'm already an owner of a DE 10 nano, but I will definitely buy another one from you guys in order to support you! 🎉💪
CRAZY TAKI !!! ❤
Loved work congrat
I already own two original setups, but I'm definitely grabbing a full set of the new board. Thanks for doing this, hopefully it will grow the community a lot now there will be a dedicated board. Wouldn't mind if the new board will be called MiSTer. 💪 Thanks for all the effort.
Awesome! Where can we read more info about this? Who develops this PCB?
Would this be compatible or can it be made compatible with RMC's MiSTer Multisystem I/O motherboard?
very excited about this project. I hope you make a portable console, a desktop console and also some dock to connect to CRT televisions.
Hey Taki. Do you know if the $15 Ram module is compatible with Terasic's DE-10 Nano? I have an older 128gb v2.5 module that gets a little flakey running some of the newer advanced cores.
It is
@@TakiUdon2 Great to know. Thanks!
I have the mister saved on my wishlist for aliexpress and the price of the kit jumped from 600 to almost 900.. its crazy..
I will definitely try to grab this one..
I'm really interested in the portable console form factor of this, but this is amazing!
I have been interested in FPGA based computing for years now but honestly just could not justify the price. So this is very interesting. Unlike most, I am not as interested in the game consoles and am hoping to use FPGA to explore many older home computer systems without the cost of purchasing and maintaining actual vintage hardware (beyond what I already have😂). Looking forward to this project being available!
Great work and great news. Also was interested in the mister project and found it always too pricy as a hobby.
Not directly related to your board-in-hand, but is there a working Apple IIe and IIgs core at this time?
Yes for lle. LLGS is being developed.
Doing the Lords work my guy, you are a superhero!
At this price and if it's 1:1 to the nano mb in term of performance for mister, it's a big win for the community!
can you potentially fix the RAM latency issue that stopped several games working properly with the n64 core?
Looks great and would be nice to go to the lower price point that the Terasic board once was. If you guys make a portable console around it, it would be nice if you are able to incorporate a dock with analog out + SNAC support as that will give it the edge over something like the Analogue Pocket being able to play both handheld/HDMI as well as on CRT with original controllers/lightguns.
This looks great, I'll finally be able to get into MiSTer
I remember the $125 days of the DE10. I think I got mine around 2018/2019. Also…this is a game changer!
Same. Can't believe I've had it for over 5 years.
Hey! Very excited! 👍And what’s the screen do you use?
Peakdo wireless - I linked it
Where do I get this?
I'm also curious, what is that screen you're using?
Does this board support external storage, like microSD, CF, or NVME, for using it as an Amiga/ST/other retro machine? Obviously, the usable storage space would be limited by what the original software would support, but still.
There are boards that can plug into this with a second SD slot, and you can also use a USB hub.
I am so excited about this. I've wanted to get into the MiSTER project, but it's been way too expensive
Im very new to the concept of mister... Does this board have increased ram on the HPS to support n64? I believe that is a limitation of the DE-10?
What is the game pad you are using ?
Woah this is awesome! Could this be paired with a way to just use composite out for a simple way to get it to work on a crt
is fgpa quality the same or better than original hardware? i.e. does goldeneye run like it does on og hardware?
short: yes.
long: Yes only a hand full of N64 games are left with issues that are Major- unplayable, many are Rare games.
The title should read Terasic DE10-Nano compatible...
Honestly I also can't wait for a hand-held based on the same technology - in the landscape format. I love my Analog Pocket, but the typical handheld layout would be SWEEEET.
I have been hesitating to tinker with the MiSTer for several years now, but this would make me pull the trigger. I really hope it will be possible to get one shipped to Europe. In any case, amazing development :)
Cool I hope we can keep this away from the scalpers. Is there any chance of a jamma adapter on the roadmap?
I was curious about the Ram. I'm glad you cloned the version 3.0. If everything works out, this could be really cool.
I'm assuming the N64 "Turbo" core overclocks the RAM, but to what Mhz? I want to know if this clone RAM will do it, and hold up?
This is great! I haven't gotten into these types of products specifically because of the price, maybe now is the time lol.
Is it the exact same ARM Cortex A9 CPU as the DE10 or is a better ARM chip used for HPS?
Same
Awesome! Now, finally I might be able to get a MiSTer.
I would like to see someone playing with an iCE40 based board for the role too (more open tool chain, pretty cheap chips), but this is definitely the more important project.
Can we use the clone RAM boards with an official DE-10 Nano? Or would they not be compatible?
Yes