The Last Betrayal Of Rhaenyra Targaryen (Dance Of The Dragons) House Of The Dragon History & Lore

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  • After fleeing King's Landing Queen Rhaenyra found every door closed to her as she looked for refuge on the was to the port town of Duskendale. But even when they were granted access to the Dun Fort, the queen and her party were told not to linger long. The queen needed to get back to Dragonstone and the safety of her own seat and high walls and most important of all the last few men loyal to her. But this assumed safety was about to come crashing down on the queen as the dance of the dragons to yet another dark turn.
    The Dance Of The Dragons will be the focus of the plot of the new HBO spin-off House Of The Dragon coming in 2022. So if you want to learn the story before we see HBO's take on it then this will be a very long-running series. Game Of Thrones / House of the dragon are HBO shows based on George R R Martin's A Song Of Ice And Fire series. The information in this video comes from the books a world of ice and fire as well as fire and blood.
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  • @thegreatpage5912
    @thegreatpage5912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +689

    If only Rhaenerya had gone to the Vale, history might have been a bit different. Sunfyre was nearly dead, Aegon was on his last leg, and Rhaenerya had the support of the fresh North and Vale. She could have came back and took Kingslanding with a larger army, while Aegon rotted on Dragonstone.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      I have no doubt if she had then she would have won the war, the north and vale rallying behind he, i'm not sure aegon had the numbers to match her

    • @amitkenan3878
      @amitkenan3878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@WorldOfWesteros he did not have. Most of his armies were destroyed even before the Vale and the North joined the war

    • @vincentvalentine5995
      @vincentvalentine5995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ​@@amitkenan3878 so aegon on the edge of losing war then ? wow massive failure for rhaenyra huh

    • @NRV0
      @NRV0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Jeyne was her cousin(Funny to point this out given whats going on) her best bet was with her but she was so far gone at this point I'm sure had she choose to go to the Vale and won she wouldn't have been a good ruler.

    • @tanxilhanif
      @tanxilhanif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Y'all forget this book is written by George RR Martin heroes will die same as villains .. beloved characters will die same as hated

  • @billychops1280
    @billychops1280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    The worst part about all of this is that even near the end Aegon III still had the spirit to fight for his mother, as seen when he picked up the dead knights sword, but moments later his will and spirit is just completely crushed when his mother is killed, and in many ways Aegon died as well, he was still present but obviously he was a Brocken man far before ever becoming one

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      This is very true. Seeing what happened to his mother cleary gave him some very bad truma and PTSD. It's amazing he didn't turn into a tyrant

    • @salvadorenoify
      @salvadorenoify ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@WorldOfWesteros the only time he was happy was when he reunited with his twin brother

    • @AirForceKrissy
      @AirForceKrissy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well that’s why he is called Aegon the Broken during his reign

    • @nantuckettorrance1664
      @nantuckettorrance1664 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@salvadorenoify Viserys was his younger brother, not his twin.

  • @lwilliams7448
    @lwilliams7448 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Rhaenyra was such a poor leader. She kept her huge dragon Syrax out of the war. She underestimated the rioters at Kings Landing, and she ruled from a place of fear and paranoia as evidenced by imprisoning Corlys and trying to imprison Addam of Hull. Just letting Joffrey patrol the skies of Kings Landing with Tyraxes may have been enough to prevent the riots. So many missed chances.

    • @mansoorahmed1676
      @mansoorahmed1676 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She wasn’t thinking like a commander or queen but as a mother in that moment

    • @MrRaghavrahul
      @MrRaghavrahul 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ❤❤❤❤

    • @ekanshbaweja7376
      @ekanshbaweja7376 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Targaryen history has instances where Princes fell from skies patrolling King's Landing during riots. Also if anything had happened to her, her whole cause would have collapsed. Wise of her to stay out of war.

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ekanshbaweja7376no there's only one instance

    • @jessicamarieGo
      @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lwilliams7448 Rhaenyra was a way better leader than her useless half brother Aegon the 2nd.She wasn’t a perfect one and made some bad decisions but even good leaders can make some bad decisions.There’s no such thing as a perfect leader.Rhaenyra was way more competent as a leader because she had been training in preparation for her duties as heir when she was a kid and officially declared heir by her father.

  • @stefanciocan1605
    @stefanciocan1605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Well..that takes care of Rhaenyra. Makes you wonder if Aegon II expected to remain alive after this..Perhaps this was just petty revenge .. He might have known that he would die too and wanted to have the last laugh "after you, you are the elder". The point is..after this tragedy, neither Rhaenyra or Aegon were very "loved" by Westerosy History. Aegon III was a broken king and the Targaryen Kings after him lost their majesty and strength..along with their dragons. House Targaryen true downfall..was here.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      There was always a certain arrogance about aegon that makes me think that he thought this was it and it was over. However i think at this point in the war he was more focused on winning in principle rather than the long term plan

    • @jimsty5222
      @jimsty5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Despite his long and troubled regency and depressed personality, Argon III was a decent king for the 20 years that he actually ruled, but obviously with the help of his brother and later hand, Visery's

    • @jimsty5222
      @jimsty5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@WorldOfWesteros I think you're absolutely spot on. He never could heed his council's advice and warnings about the combined forces of the Riverlands and North heading his way andnd paid the ultimate price for it, ironically at the hands of his own men..

    • @mariatereza9721
      @mariatereza9721 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yes, the only true winners of the dance of dragons were the lords of Westeros, the Targaryens lost all their powerful dragons and became vulnerable to the schemes of the great Houses

    • @janellejulianajoy
      @janellejulianajoy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have often said the throne fell to the bottom of the list after Luke's death entered the chat. It basically became about trying to permanently wipe the other out by any means necessary as they destroyed their own damned kingdom.

  • @veritasinvicta8128
    @veritasinvicta8128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Manderlys offered her a chance to go to the North and White Harbor, she wouldn't have found a safer place than Cregan Stark's North.

    • @debamlyabanerjee4067
      @debamlyabanerjee4067 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i am glad 😊 she refuce thats why she died she started the war her death end it end of war goodbye princess rhanyra rest in peace in hell

    • @099Nitro
      @099Nitro ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@debamlyabanerjee4067spot the green supporter

    • @debamlyabanerjee4067
      @debamlyabanerjee4067 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@099Nitro king aegon ii was the real king 👑

    • @099Nitro
      @099Nitro ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@debamlyabanerjee4067 he was a drunken and spoiled high tower puppet who got his whole line extinct. Rhanerya died too but at least her family cobtinued right until Dany. You will lose and it's glorious

    • @debamlyabanerjee4067
      @debamlyabanerjee4067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@099Nitro dream 😴💭on fool 🤡 rhanyra was a valeryon puppet who died a horrible death 💀 aegon won the war because he killed rhanyra and he is known as king 👑 and aegon iii is aegon ii cousin that's why he got the throne war was over when rhanyra died

  • @kylecedrickgraciano9743
    @kylecedrickgraciano9743 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The reason became much more clearer now because of the show and why she insisted on going to dragonstone to hatch more dragon eggs, the prophecy that was told to her was probably on her mind the whole time because she thought it was her that would defeat the white walkers and she needed the dragons.

    • @a.m.pietroschek1972
      @a.m.pietroschek1972 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She was wrong. Prophecies are the opposite of delusions.

    • @libertinarey
      @libertinarey หลายเดือนก่อน

      This prophesy bs was so uneeded.

  • @i1s9m9r5
    @i1s9m9r5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I feel like d&d got inspiration from Rhaenyra to write Daenerys in season 8. Literally the same story, but not executed well.

    • @DrRockso1987
      @DrRockso1987 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would've love if they used Rhaenyra's story for Daenerys in season 8.
      Have King's Landing and Cersei fall at the end of season 7 and have season 8 be Daenerys ruling King's Landing but no one supports her. Everyone lives in fear of her dragons and as a result, she grows more and more unstable as her reign continues and people sing out in support of Jon over her. Combine that with the white walker storyline and it would've been amazing.

  • @For_the-Emperor
    @For_the-Emperor ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Rhaenerya really wasn’t betrayed that much. The only ones who truly betrayed her where hammer and ulf, daemon doesn’t count because that’s who he is, he loves sleeping around, the sea snake in my opinion doesn’t count either because Adam was innocent. Her downfall comes from how she treated people and barely thought for herself.

    • @anitat9727
      @anitat9727 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah she got too paranoid, closed minded and obsessed. Though Targs have a tendency to go mad after extreme stress

    • @barronspears
      @barronspears ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anitat9727 do you think we will find out what happened to aemond son with alys rivers in do you think it will play an important part in fire and blood part 2

    • @charlesburgess4511
      @charlesburgess4511 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anitat9727 I wonder if the madness is in part due to the telepathic connection to the dragons requiring a degree of mental fortitude to maintain in order to ride, and perhaps if that if the mind is stressed enough the mind of the binded dragon takes precedence, and the mindset of the dragon would probably be much more feral/bestial and not fit well in a human mind, thus giving the appearance of the targaryens going mad.
      It would certainly be a chilling warning for GRRM to apply in regard to the Dragons, that you need a strong will and mind to ride a dragon lest the dragon rides you instead.

    • @gups4963
      @gups4963 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@charlesburgess4511 It's inbreeding, it has always been

  • @innerpeacefindings671
    @innerpeacefindings671 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Imprison Lord Corlys is the most dumbest thing Rhanerya have done. She just lose a fleet by her own action. Rhanerya The Cruel horrible death suit her. She is terrible leader.

    • @jessicamarieGo
      @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Aegon the Usurper was no better as a leader.Suffering betrayal after another and the loss of many of her children made it rather difficult to trust anyone and make better judgments despite the disadvantages Rhaenyra had by imprisoning Corlys.There’s no such thing as being a “perfect” leader and she was very intelligent and she did the best she could under the circumstances.No matter what,the Iron Throne belonged to Rhaenyra as the true heir and successor of King Viserys as he had declared before.

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@jessicamarieGoone betrayal and it was after the war was over and i wouldn't even consider it a betrayal becouse corlys killed him

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​No rulers is perfect sure but turning Hugh and the other seed to there side was genius also taking dragonstone while no one was watching he also held kings landing longer because the people wanted him there @@jessicamarieGo

    • @jessicamarieGo
      @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@badyoutuber1986 Because the Greens turned public opinion to their side once Aegon the 2nd’s son Prince Jaehaerys was murdered and the public blamed and villainized Rhaenyra.The throne still belonged to her as the true named heir to the Iron Throne despite the public being turned against her.

    • @jessicamarieGo
      @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@badyoutuber1986 Yes The Greens sadly did have a lot of advantages with turning the other Dragon Seeds against her to their side.More betrayal to her cause in the fight for her throne.😔

  • @benanderson5973
    @benanderson5973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Are you going to do Aegon IV and the Blackfyre rebellions eventually? That would be awesome

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I plan on covering the whole history up till Robert. When fire and blood part 2 comes out, i will most likely double back and add more detail into the videos from Aegon iii onward but that will be a long way off. Right now i'm getting stuff together for Aegon iii and Viserys ii

    • @隠れた
      @隠れた ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WorldOfWesteros does viserys ii rule after Aegon iii?

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not directly after but he does become king

  • @calliefinck6275
    @calliefinck6275 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    She was a terrible queen. In the end, their children deserved the crown more than Rhaenyra or Aegeon

  • @neilbodwell9172
    @neilbodwell9172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I dunno, crusty old north men sound pretty fierce. And this whole world is the definition of "beware an old man in a place where men die young"

    • @Morfe02
      @Morfe02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Which is hilarious because Rhaenyra put a lot of Young knights as guards, they all were kill by peasants

  • @aegonii8471
    @aegonii8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Why didn’t the North and Vale start amassing and sending troops from the very start of the war. I know the North took some time and is far away but the Vale is a pretty medium sized kingdom it shouldn’t take that long for their troops to rally and head out.

    • @sergiorosales8658
      @sergiorosales8658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Winter

    • @aegonii8471
      @aegonii8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sergiorosales8658 That’s their excuse?

    • @hankonokokoro6684
      @hankonokokoro6684 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      read the first book ASOIAF
      The eyrie are super hard to travel in in the winter

    • @CW-rx2js
      @CW-rx2js ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because George Martin didn't want Rhaenyra to be Queen.

    • @josesesade5732
      @josesesade5732 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aegonii8471 They had to harvest their crops first before winter if not the whole North would've starved

  • @phillipyao4260
    @phillipyao4260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The war could have ended quickly if they had sent more dragons and veteran riders along with Corly’s wife. The plan to draw a dragon out was clearly a trap.
    Aegon ii and Aemond one eye was there and could have been taken out in one battle.

    • @jeffreysamson5938
      @jeffreysamson5938 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Which is why rhae is a horrible leader and queen. If she had sent daemon along with rhaenys, they could've stood a chance.

    • @minatodroger7890
      @minatodroger7890 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      So many times each side could have won but arrogance.

    • @Stranzua
      @Stranzua 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is exactly what I was thinking. If they were just across the bay, the Blacks should have just sent every dragon possible. Attacking Rook's Rest took them by surprise, but I doubt that Greens would have anticipated fighting 3 or more dragons.

  • @paulraines9635
    @paulraines9635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Poor Sunfyre.

  • @D-LineReviews
    @D-LineReviews 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Only way viserys could have made her queen was to make her queen when he was alive while his word was law not call her heir…. He called her heir then left her to succession law…. Had he made her queen and stepped down it would have been made legitimate considering it was illegal but his word superseded ….. she wasn’t the queen because viserys even screwed that up lol

    • @IswearIwasBatman
      @IswearIwasBatman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      viserys also screwed up by being biased towards her. if he hadnt just swept rhaenyras shortcomings under the rug the civil war could have been avoided snd the differences between the hightower-targs and rhaenyra targs could have been sorted out. viserys treating rhaenyra like his only kid pushed other targs and greens against her and usurped her

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@IswearIwasBatman Rheanyra was also quite terrible at making choices.

    • @IswearIwasBatman
      @IswearIwasBatman หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@badyoutuber1986 fs

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IswearIwasBatman Even if Rheanyra sat the throne without any termoil at the beginning of her reign eventually down the line Aegons descendents would have rebeld and or userped against her own becouse westerosi culture is male primogeniture regardless of what the king says.

  • @jackbharucha1475
    @jackbharucha1475 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I wonder if in the show this will happen because Alfred Broome is related to the guard she killed.

  • @thebrotherskrynn
    @thebrotherskrynn ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If Rhaenyra fled to the Vale she would have been fine, had she run to Cregan he might well have executed her or handed her over to get in with the Greens. Cregan was playing his own game, never committing to either side and purposefully delaying his own entry until he was safely on the winning side and could not be charged of defying any King or Queen. I suspect he was in on the hit on Aegon later, as it might have been a little awkward to oppose any ruler.
    I know folks want to like him 'cause he's a Stark (for some reason or maybe due to fondness for Ned, Robb & Jon), but he just doesn't strike me as much different from Walder or Tywin, or Baelish. He was a canny player who sent a token force south earlier in the war and never joined in himself.
    The Vale was where Rhaenyra doubtless would have found safety though. She also should have left a larger force to guard Dragonstone. But all around this war was a race to the bottom between her and Aegon, as neither of them seemed particularly bright or talented. With the two of them no matter what I suppose likely to fall after the deaths of the true power behind them (Daemon & Aemond respectively).

    • @barronspears
      @barronspears ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sunfyre is the best for what he did you should thank him

    • @OrochiFlamez
      @OrochiFlamez ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Cregan wouldn't have done that because he swore loyalty to her, and you know how those Starks are when it comes to honor.

    • @elwinjohnson4004
      @elwinjohnson4004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cregan obviously seems like a wise leader

    • @lwilliams7448
      @lwilliams7448 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I doubt Cregan would have executed a queen. He swore an oath and you know the Starks keep their word.

    • @krkiva2
      @krkiva2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah a Stark wouldnt do it

  • @autumnwind1216
    @autumnwind1216 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Watch the show end with her heading to the Vale & everything working out.

  • @math2222322
    @math2222322 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both sides were sooo aweful. It makes me sick when I hear people worship Raenhyra and Daemond. I call it the Daenehrys syndrome.

  • @alphamega3822
    @alphamega3822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    House of the dragon fans wants to see Princess Rhaenyra become queen.

    • @anarchistjester7475
      @anarchistjester7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      And they are at the wrong place if they want a happy ending lol.

    • @Kspat2
      @Kspat2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Its a murky situation, she was named heir. Sure she's a total degenerate, but lets not act like the greens weren't conspiring and committing crimes behind their backs the whole time. If Hightower would have kept his fucking meddling mouth shut about changing Daemon from heir the whole shit storm would have been avoided.

    • @CC-ii1sy
      @CC-ii1sy ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@anarchistjester7475 Well, I would say the series gets a bittersweet ending: Rhaenerya and Daemon's child on the Iron Throne, Aegon II the Usurper dead, the Greens (in the long term) defeated. And the Targaryen Civil war over but huge damage across the Realm. Both parties committed horrible atrocities, the continent stained in fire and blood, tens of thousands dead, and nearly all of House Targaryen's dragons are killed. All for what? So that two siblings who were both expected by other people to sit on the most painful chair in the seven kingdoms. It is an event in which House Targaryen will never recover.

    • @oggg7181
      @oggg7181 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@CC-ii1sy House Hightower won. They (Hightower, Maesters and the Faith) killed the dragons. Not the first time they fought and won against "magical" foes.

    • @NotMeI77
      @NotMeI77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@oggg7181 Well House Hightowers gone extinct after the dance such that no want remembered of their House name anymore expecially in GOT world while house targaryan still got remembered and bloodlines continued.

  • @FightsRightsAlways
    @FightsRightsAlways ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I hope house of the dragons, stick with the books. I want to see this play out on the screen.

    • @parisbeech2180
      @parisbeech2180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well you know how Hollywood do 😂😂😂

    • @AirForceKrissy
      @AirForceKrissy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They may not as a lot of different scenes went differently then what happened in the books. Hell they may not even have Rhaenyra get eaten by Aemonds dragon. She may die some other way by him

    • @FightsRightsAlways
      @FightsRightsAlways ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AirForceKrissy lol I hope not.

    • @avtomat6471
      @avtomat6471 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well actually so far the show has been really good and well received by the community.

    • @parisbeech2180
      @parisbeech2180 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@avtomat6471 of course it would it's amazing show

  • @WHOOOOOOOOCARES
    @WHOOOOOOOOCARES หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sunfyre didn’t deserve that fate. It hurts what happened to him because of his dumb rider.

  • @JoseGonzalez-pn5zl
    @JoseGonzalez-pn5zl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Poor Rhaenyra she felt like she couldn't trust no one at this point. I don't blame her but also she should of when north or hid somewhere in the Riverlands her allies were all there. Most of her enemies were in the Reach and Stormlands & Westerlands. It amazes me how the slightest misstep effects George's stories. But no matter we're just speaking from outside perspective put yourself in that situation would you do the same??....

  • @walkerlamebrain
    @walkerlamebrain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How sad, warring family members really is the worse in the eyes of westeros gods, just like Rhaenys said. BUT only if Rhaenyra went to the vale, she would've survived

  • @solomonarhin
    @solomonarhin ปีที่แล้ว +28

    For a female I’d say she fought hard against all odds because the world was not that fair to women in the time setting the story is placed.
    Got her lineage to rule ultimately at least .
    They can’t change rhaenyra’s fate In the movie because Joffrey already narrated her fate in GoT

    • @Daniel-vb4tj
      @Daniel-vb4tj ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fought?

    • @debamlyabanerjee4067
      @debamlyabanerjee4067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fair to woman she has all things from bigging she got everything from birth she had a chance to choose a husband but she didn't, she was married to the heir of Welthyest house of the relam but she didn't have children with him she gave birth to bastards by her bodyguard , she remain in hiding didn't fight any battles dispite haveing a dragon

    • @bHosXumBrEon
      @bHosXumBrEon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt that will be the same fate for her in the show. Remember in the books, there was no proof Daemon killed Rhea nor Laenor being alive but in the show Daemon killed Rhea and Laenor is completely alive - I don't think the show runners like everyone knows what's going to happen for sure there wil lbe a major change.

    • @siran424
      @siran424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bHosXumBrEon
      Then the showrunners will ruin this show as well, just like how GoT was ruined ....

    • @bHosXumBrEon
      @bHosXumBrEon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@siran424 probably, but they did say that there will be some major changes in the show prior releasing HOTD - so changes will most likely be inevitable.

  • @kingk9407
    @kingk9407 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes Rhaenyra should’ve went to the Vale as she was half Arryn on her mother’s side . Could’ve secured her position as queen with the armies of the north , vale & ships from house Velaryon . Aegon was weak and his dragon was dying . 😢

  • @javman8
    @javman8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If only she have vary.

  • @sankarkrishnan407
    @sankarkrishnan407 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dragons are dead . If she goes to the white harbor she can surely come with a great army of North and river lords.

  • @darongates5948
    @darongates5948 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She’s literally blood family with the Vale. Why not go there?

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too psycho to get her wits right

  • @scatterghostblue3
    @scatterghostblue3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doomdancer did some damage before she went out.. 🥲🥲

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeahhh......but not enough to save her queen

  • @maurissafields1095
    @maurissafields1095 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Black Queen 🖤

  • @shearyan1035
    @shearyan1035 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think the show is gonna fuck all this up

  • @seth_fitzgerald
    @seth_fitzgerald หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was always the problem with the Targaryen. They always repeat the mistake of their forebears and their descendants continue to repeat it. They relied too much on their dragons. If Rhaenyra had listened she still be alive.

  • @redadmiralofvalyria867
    @redadmiralofvalyria867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    God, this truly is a War of no winning OR losing(makes me wonder the what instead could have been)
    I heard some people say that it was RHAENERA who was in the wrong for premogemature was ALWAYS in their history, set by the founding dragon himself. Aegon 1st Targaryen (otherwise known as the conquerer) & that her father had no right to go against it, had he just ratified the edict of the conquerer by saying men AND women could inherent perhaps the Hightower/Targaryen alliance could have been saved(instead of dying out )

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      In my view it's such a complex issue there is no 100% right or wrong answer as both sides have a lot of valid points. for me it comes down to the great council of 101 and what was set out then. after that it depends what you value more, the president set by 101 or will of a king

    • @redadmiralofvalyria867
      @redadmiralofvalyria867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Lord Cregan Stark ......it kinda can by that logic king jaehareays (the conciliator) COULD have made princess rhaenys(the queen who never was) queen, but he DIDN'T
      If a kings word is law then it should BE law(otherwise a "kings law" is only their for as long as the king is alive. Kinda like how with Elizabeth 1st, she was ONLY queen as long as she was alive, after that it went back to the MALE line)
      So in other words a kings law is only law as long as he lives, not to mention some of the lords of 101 died, it's not like these oaths was meant to be passed to their children (as the Warden Of the west, it's lord Lannister said)

    • @anitat9727
      @anitat9727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Lord Cregan Stark Jaenerys only got in power because they passed over his elder sister Rhena. So precedent was set.

    • @user-zs4rx4xv1x
      @user-zs4rx4xv1x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Lord Cregan Stark Primogeniture law and government system are two different things. Viserys ignored the precedent set by three previous Targ kings and didn't even bother enforcing it.
      Also there's no point in arguing, as in-universe law autists (namely Stannis) have decided for us. Rheanyra, despite being a mother of two kings, was a traitor. Aegon II was the rightful king.

    • @abhisheksharma-sb3er
      @abhisheksharma-sb3er ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's the king who decides, Jaehaerys let his counsel vote but in the end it was his decision.
      Same with Viserys, he made the decision to name his first born daughter to be queen after him.
      PS: Hightower/Targaryen alliance? Really. Alicent/ hightower were a joke.

  • @josmith2651
    @josmith2651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    sad 😞 she should of married 👍Damon long before 💫💫💫

  • @thatguy007
    @thatguy007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Come on people this is fictional you can write any end you desire.. understood

    • @Hero_Of_Old
      @Hero_Of_Old ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well we're not writing it, George RR Martin is. And that is his story.

    • @thundererodinson1668
      @thundererodinson1668 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm dumber by reading ur comment

  • @tuonofactory8388
    @tuonofactory8388 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s always a Sir Alfred in our lives. That’s traitor snake.
    Anyways, In the end, Daenerys Burned them all. 😄😄

  • @jessicamarieGo
    @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Many men in the story just refused to accept a woman to ascend the Iron Throne despite the fact that Rhaenyra was declared the true heir and NOT her half brother Aegon the Usurper.At least she technically did win because her bloodline survived through her 2 younger sons Aegon the Dragon Bane and Viserys the 2nd.

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She is not in the list of succession after corlys poisend Aegon 2 Aegon 3 was the only male living heir so he inherited on the principal that stopped rheanyra from sitting the throne and Aegon 3 is considered Aegon2 heir not rheanyras.

    • @jessicamarieGo
      @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@badyoutuber1986 Rhaenyra technically did win the war because her bloodline lived on through Aegon the Younger and Viserys the 2nd as Kings despite her death.Rhaenyra’s bloodline survived NOT Aegon the 2nd’s.His bloodline ended when his daughter Jaehaera died leaving no children behind.

    • @jessicamarieGo
      @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even though she was married to Aegon the Younger.

    • @jessicamarieGo
      @jessicamarieGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@badyoutuber1986 What do you mean she was NOT in the line of Succession?!Her father King Viserys declared her as his heir!Lol!!🤦‍♀️😂The Iron Throne belonged to Rhaenyra and she was still acknowledged as Queen during the Dance of the Dragons by her supporters.She’s King Viserys’s true heir because the lords of the realm swore obeisance to her and to her father!Aegon the 2nd was never declared heir instead despite his existence!Lol!!😂😂😂

    • @badyoutuber1986
      @badyoutuber1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jessicamarieGo go read the line of succession your self

  • @chopstixsix802
    @chopstixsix802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They're going to have to change this narrative because now the show is out it's like a huge spoiler.

    • @siran424
      @siran424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huh ??
      Why should they ??
      Did they have to change the narrative of the red wedding when GoT came out ??

    • @Aurelach14
      @Aurelach14 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siran424I get your point but the problem is that they completely spoiled the end of the story in GoT so now every one knows what is likely to happen, I personally think it would be a better idea to change the end to surprise fans, not fuckinh it up like GoT though…

  • @quagmire8565
    @quagmire8565 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wat was daemon doing

    • @nicmagtaan1132
      @nicmagtaan1132 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably dead

    • @jopogs7909
      @jopogs7909 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Already dead.. Together with aemond no eyes 😅

    • @ChanChan-jk8pc
      @ChanChan-jk8pc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He died

    • @barronspears
      @barronspears ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jopogs7909 do you think we will find out what happened to aemond son with alys rivers in do you think it will play an important part in fire and blood part 2